October 16, 2025 • 37 mins
What if a few minutes of guided EFT tapping could lower your anxiety, quiet your inner critic, and help you face what really hurts without feeling overwhelmed? That’s the promise — and the science — behind Emotional Freedom Techniques, and it’s the heart of our conversation with EFT Tapping Coach and SOAR with Tapping founder, Amy Vincze.
We start by demystifying how EFT works: tapping on specific acupressure points while naming what you actually feel, which sends a powerful “de-escalate” signal to the amygdala. The research is compelling — faster cortisol drops, improvements in anxiety and depression, and standout PTSD results — yet the practice stays simple enough to try today.
We map the terrain of trauma — “Big T” events like assault or combat versus “little t” patterns like chronic criticism or neglect — and explain why finite shocks can clear quickly, while complex trauma requires patience and sequencing. You’ll learn when to choose a coach (for trauma timelines and sensitive pacing) and when an app is perfect (daily relief, structured guidance, and momentum between sessions). Amy walks through SOAR with Tapping’s onboarding, step-by-step rounds with visual cues, strategy videos for themes like depression, sleep, and cravings, and privacy choices that keep optional journals on your device. We also spotlight free EFT sessions for veterans through the
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SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
New normal big life.
SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
You give it a try.
There have been over 300 uhpeer-reviewed studies done that
all show the effectiveness ofthis really powerful tool.
And the numbers are off thecharts about how effective it
is.
It might feel uncomfortablebecause it is going to encourage
you to engage with uncomfortableemotions.
(00:28):
But that is the magic of itbecause it will lead you through
the other to the other side ofthat and get you to a place of
feeling much better.
SPEAKER_01 (00:37):
Amid escalating mental health challenges, EFT
tapping emerges as a potentself-help tool, blending
acupressure and affirmations toease anxiety and pain.
Amy Vinza, shaped by her ownemotional struggles, founded the
SOAR with Tapping app to makethis technique accessible to
anyone with over 160 sessions,progress tracking, and user
(01:01):
testimonials like this app hasmade my everyday life easier.
It empowers app users to addressroot issues.
Experts affirm its benefits withstudies showing significant
reductions and post-traumaticstress, anxiety, and depression
symptoms.
Vinza's journey inspires provingEFT has transformative potential
(01:26):
for all.
And today we'll learn about EFTtapping with expert EFT tapping
coach Amy Vinza.
Hi friends, welcome to the NewNormal Big Life Podcast.
We bring you natural news andstories about nature that we
hope will inspire you to getoutside an adventure, along with
a step-by-step plan to help youpractice what you've learned and
create your own new normal andlive the biggest life you can
(01:47):
dream.
I'm your host, Antonet Lee, theWellness Warrior.
Let's dive into today'stransformational topic with Amy
Vinza.
In a world besieged byrelentless stress and emotional
turmoil, I imagine a simpletechnique that empowers
individuals to reclaim theirinner peace through mere
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fingertip pressure on the body.
Emotional freedom techniques, orEFT, commonly known as tapping,
emerges ancient acupressureprinciples with modern
psychological insights toalleviate anxiety, depression,
chronic pain, and more.
This method involves gentlytapping on specific meridian
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points while vocalizingaffirmations, effectively
disrupting negative thoughtpatterns and restoring energetic
balance.
Research underscores itsefficacy.
A systematic review of clinicalstudies reveals that EFT
significantly reduces symptomsof psychological distress with
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participants experiencinglasting improvements after just
a few sessions.
Dr.
Melissa Young, a functionalmedicine specialist with
Cleveland Clinic, affirms we seethe most evidence for its
capacity for lowering anxiety.
Highlighting its comparabilityto cognitive behavioral therapy
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and managing depressivesymptoms.
Veterans grappling withpost-traumatic stress have found
peace with EFT, with one studynoting that 80% no longer met
post-traumatic stress disordercriteria after treatment.
At the forefront of thistransformative practice stands
Amy Vinza, founder of the Soarwith Tapping App.
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Amy Vinza has been a dedicatedprofessional in the health and
wellness industry for over 20years.
As a certified massagetherapist, nutritional
therapist, colon hydrotherapist,reiki master, and tapping coach,
she brings a wealth of expertiseto her work.
Since earning her certificationas a tapping coach 16 years ago,
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Amy's witnessed profoundtransformations both in her own
life and in the lives of herclients.
She has even used tapping toheal herself from painful
chronic medical conditions.
As the founder of the SorwardTapping App, Amy's on a mission
to make the life-changingbenefits of tapping accessible
to people everywhere.
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She firmly believes that tappingis one of the most powerful and
transformative healing toolsavailable today.
Amy, welcome to New Normal BigLife.
SPEAKER_00 (04:24):
Thank you for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
I'm excited about this topic because I have some
experience with EFT tapping.
So can you describe yourpersonal journey with EFT
tapping, including what thepivotal moment was that led you
from emotional struggles tobecoming a certified coach?
SPEAKER_00 (04:43):
I'd love to.
I think it's important for me tosay that I've always been
curious about human behavior,always kind of comparing my
behavior to that of somebodyelse and wondering why we have
different responses to differentsituations.
And I've been a seeker in thatregard, like always wanting to
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be better, always wanting to tryharder, that sort of thing.
And I think that got thatjourney elevated when I was
diagnosed with breast cancer atthe age of 31.
And with no history of breastcancer in my family, it was
really just came out of leftfield and was not something I
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was expecting.
And, you know, after the initialfears and treatment and surgery
and stuff like that, I reallygot curious.
I really looked at it like,okay, I'm biologically the same
mostly as this person standingnext to me.
What is it about me that made meget breast cancer and not this
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person over here?
And so I really started goingdown the path of nutrition and
even spirituality.
And I sought out Tony Robbins atthe time.
I so I went to his events and afriend introduced me to tapping
at the event.
And I quickly recognized it as areally powerful tool.
(06:14):
I'm sure like you did, becauseyou've had experience with it as
well.
So, but I had used it over theyears with kind of limited
success.
Like I sometimes it would fallreally flat, and other times I
would experience some reallyprofound changes with it, and I
didn't understand what thedifference was.
(06:35):
So about seven years ago, I hadbeen certified for probably 16,
17 years now.
But seven years ago, I was inkind of another crisis moment in
my life where I, you know how itgoes with when everything is
just crumbling and changingaround you.
I my body was in pain a lot ofthe time.
I was having anxiety attacks.
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I was depressed and I was aboutto lose my job.
Like everything was just, I wasin an unhappy state in a lot of
places in my life.
And I started turning totapping, but I did it a little
differently this time becausenormally I would focus on the
symptoms I was experiencing,whether it was procrastination
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or anxiety, and it would help inthe moment, but nothing changed
long term with it.
And so I started asking myselfthe questions that were helping
me to get to what was underneathprocrastination.
Like, why exactly was Iprocrastinating?
What would be so horrible if Iachieved this goal that I say
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that I want, but but it's I'mlike stopped dead in my tracks
and I'm paralyzed about movingforward with something.
And then it occurred to me thatI was afraid of failure.
And then I thought, okay, well,what's so bad about failure?
Like all the experts and reallysuccessful people out there say
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that you have to fail a lot inorder to truly succeed.
So I'm like, okay, so what wouldhappen if I really failed
something?
And then the answer came that,well, it would confirm my my
greatest fears about myself,that I was there was something
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wrong with me, and that I wasunworthy and deserving of having
success or even, you know,anything good in my life,
abundance of any kind.
And then I asked myself, well,why do I feel that way?
And I got to the answer, whichwas my dad left when I was four.
(08:41):
And that was the question that Ikept asking myself over and over
again after he left was, what'swrong with me?
What's wrong with because I, askids, we normally just point the
finger at ourselves and assumethat it's our fault if something
around us has happened, andwhich is exactly what I did.
But I lived the rest of my lifewith looking through the world
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with that lens.
So when I started applyingtapping to those root causes, to
the trauma of my dad leaving andto all the limiting beliefs and
fears that were created out ofthat trauma, then I experienced
really profound results, really,really huge stuff.
It was like all of a sudden Icould see that the sky was blue.
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And it was at that moment that Irecognized tapping for the truly
powerful tool that it is, andeverything changed.
I quit my job.
I was going to lose it anyway,but started my own business with
tapping and then built the appso that I could bring it to as
many as wide of an audience aspossible.
SPEAKER_01 (09:46):
Wow, that is an incredible personal journey into
tapping.
And your clinical experience asan EFT coach, what are some
common challenges that yourclients face?
And how do you tailor sessionsto address their root causes
effectively?
SPEAKER_00 (10:03):
Yeah, that's a great question.
And I think that the thing thatI see most often, it's not
exactly the type of trauma thatpeople experience, because I
mean, there are categories oftrauma that a lot of people go
through.
But the most common responsethat people don't often
recognize as a trauma responseis anxiety and overwhelm.
(10:27):
Because what happens in our bodyis that, you know, our
subconscious mind is constantlyscanning the horizon for
threats.
And it's not doing it from arational place, it's doing it
from a really irrational, almostchildlike place, because that's
typically where we experienceour trauma.
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And so anything that resemblesthe potential of experiencing
the pain that they had withtheir trauma again, even in the
most remote way, will causepeople to slip into an anxious
state.
Their amygdala gets triggered,they go into fight or flight
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mode, and cortisol is rushedthroughout our body.
And then, and nobody, like 99%of the time, nobody understands
why or how they were triggered.
They're just in this anxiousstate and they don't know what
to do with it.
And we've got a lot of tools andpeople out there helping people
to manage the symptoms ofanxiety, which EFT is a great
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tool for doing that, because ittells the amygdala over and over
again in our brain de-escalate,de-escalate, de-escalate.
It's okay to feel safe and calmabout this.
There is no immediate threat.
And it's okay to relax in thismoment.
And when it's doing that, it isreducing cortisol in our bodies
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43% faster than if we had donenothing else.
It's lowering heart rate, it islowering blood pressure, it is
increasing immune response andincreasing happiness levels.
So there's a lot going on whenwe just start tapping on our
acupressure points and talkingabout what it is we're
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experiencing.
SPEAKER_01 (12:14):
And who typically benefits from EFT tapping?
And are there specificdemographics or conditions where
it's most profound in theresults?
SPEAKER_00 (12:26):
I would say it's highly individualized, and I'll
give a couple of examples of whythat is so.
For example, like somebody thatexperienced what I'll refer to
as a big T trauma, a wartimeevent, a big car accident, a
major illness in their body,physical or sexual assault,
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something along those lines, Iwould consider a big T trauma.
And typically those events, thenumber of times that people have
experienced those events arepretty small.
And so working through thoseevents with tapping, with
hopefully a very skilledprofessional, because we don't
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want to re-traumatize somebodyand we take it extremely slow
and be very sensitive about howwe move forward with it.
Those can clear and neutralizereally quickly because it didn't
happen a lot of times.
And because people don'ttypically develop limiting
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beliefs around it, it didn't,and if it didn't go on for like
an extended period of time, likedecades or even longer, like
it's really easy to releasethose things.
Like in the matter of two tothree sessions, like a sexual
assault can be completelyneutralized.
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I mean, which is remarkable,something that people get really
affected by at a such a deeplevel, it's remarkable that it
can have that quick of an effecton somebody.
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SPEAKER_00 (15:33):
But complex trauma, littlet trauma, which is thing,
something like having an angryparent.
And so you always feel likeyou're walking on eggshells and
trying to avoid them gettingangry and having, you know, some
physical or even just emotionaloutburst.
Or it could be if you wereignored by your parents.
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Maybe it's something as simpleas they had to work two to three
jobs in order to make sure thateverybody had a roof over their
heads and food on the table, butyou as a child felt ignored and
it went on for a long period oftime.
That's more of a complex trauma,which had which can create a lot
of fears and a lot of limitingbeliefs about who you are, which
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is much, much harder to reallyneutralize all of the effects of
that.
And it will take an extendedperiod of time, but it will
depend on how often you utilizetapping in order to achieve
those results.
So if you're you're working witha professional or even tapping
on it like once every otherweek, it's going to take a long
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period of time.
But if you were working on it,giving it like two hours a day
for a week, you can move throughit like that.
So there's that aspect.
So it really depends on what itis you want to work through.
And then there is the type ofperson that is doing the
tapping.
If you have a lot ofself-awareness and are able to
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verbalize your feelings andunderstand like what sadness
feels like in your body and whatanger feels like in your body,
and be able to verbalize andexpress how that feels, then
you're going to achieve fasterresults.
If you have a little bit of aharder time with that, it's just
gonna, it's like a muscle thatneeds to be exercised and
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strengthened.
And over time, you will get tothe point where you can not only
recognize what you're feeling,but verbalize it and release it
really quickly.
So, yeah, there's there's a fewitems that come into play with
it, but I have worked withchildren like five years old and
have she's released somethingreally quickly.
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I've worked with teenagers andthey release very quickly
because they don't have anextended history of struggles in
a certain area, typically, andadults take a little bit longer,
but again, it depends on theperson and what they're working
on.
SPEAKER_01 (18:07):
So you've talked about working with an EFT
tapping coach, and I know thatwe're gonna talk about an app in
just a moment, but how will apotential client make the
decision between working with anapp and working with a coach?
How do you make that decisionfor yourself?
SPEAKER_00 (18:28):
Very, very good question.
If somebody has trauma that theyneed to work through, I would
always recommend working with aEFT professional because while,
like I said, there are differentcategories of traumas, each
person's trauma and eat theeffect that the trauma had on
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each person is soindividualized.
But there is a really distincttimeline of a trauma where
multiple points along thattimeline, there are going to be
moments where there are feelingsof shame, regret, guilt, uh, or
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f and or fear, all of the abovesometimes, and they all need to
be neutralized in order for thewhole event to be neutralized.
And so it takes somebody, ittakes somebody working with a
coach to be able to recognizewhen those moments are, because
we if I was trying to workthrough my own trauma by myself,
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I have too many judgments andcriticisms about how I responded
to be able to be non-judgmentalabout those moments enough to
recognize that that's somethingI need to tap on.
So an outside person can have areally clear perspective on
where the trigger points are andwhat needs to be worked through.
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The app is a really greatsupport tool for everything that
comes afterwards.
So all of the fears thatdeveloped from trauma, all the
limiting beliefs about maybe I'mstupid, or maybe I'm lazy, or
you know, anything along thoselines, or symptoms like I can't
sleep at night, or I've got thisanxiety, or I'm feeling
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depression, or or I'm havemassive cravings for food or
alcohol or something along thoselines.
Those are everything that comesafter trauma, and those are all
symptoms of trauma.
So start always start with thetrauma itself.
And because it's like it's likeputting water on the coals of a
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fire.
Because if you're just workingup at the top of the flames,
it's not going to put that out,you know, from the base, from
the root.
You have to pour water over thecoals first, and then you can
deal with all of the otherthings that are still simmering
with fire.
SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
So suppose a client wants to work with an EFT
tapping coach, but theirinsurance provider won't their
insurance carrier won't coverit, and they don't have the
means to work with a coach outof pocket.
However, let's suppose theirinsurance carrier says, Well, I
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I am covering your therapistsessions.
Could a person maybe who wantsto work with a soar with tapping
app, which we'll talk about in amoment?
Could they bring the app totheir therapist or social worker
and say, I'd like to incorporatethis technique on this app in
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our sessions?
Would someone be open to that?
SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
I I do believe they would.
And I think a lot moretherapists are adopting this
tool in their practice becauseit is so effective.
But I do want to point out, youmentioned that you have a lot of
veterans that are part of yourlistenership.
And I do want to point out thatthere is a program, especially
for veterans, where they canreceive free EFT tapping
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sessions.
And there have been some amazingresults and studies done on how
effective EFT is, particularlyfor veterans that have
experienced PTSD andor resultingdepression or anxiety or
insomnia afterwards.
There are really great resultsregarding that.
And I just want to quickly, if Ican, give you the name of that
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program so your listeners canhear it.
It's called the Veteran StressProject, and they offer free EFT
coaching sessions for veteransand their families, which can be
provided in person or via Zoomor something along those lines.
And how would a veteran accessthis program?
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I would just search it on Googleand find out, get a web page and
contact them directly.
SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
Oh, I meant would they need a consult from their
primary care physician?
SPEAKER_00 (23:13):
Is it all Oh, I I don't know.
That's a good question.
They might have to have a di adiagnosis of PTSD in order to
get the free sessions, but Ihave I have not done enough
research to be able to answerthat accurately.
So if you're if you are justbelow that but are still having
symptoms, I would definitelyreach out and see if they have a
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program that might be able tokind of catch you in there.
SPEAKER_01 (23:41):
I'll give some spend some time doing some research,
and then if I find out anything,it'll be in the show notes.
Okay, great.
What can or how can someonewanting to use SOAR with tapping
get your app?
SPEAKER_00 (23:58):
Well, you can search for it on the Android or Google
Play Stores, just search forSore with Tapping, or you and
Apple users, they can go to mywebsite, go to
soarwithtapping.com forwardslash podcast dash special, and
there they can find a code toinput into the app once they
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download it to get 50% off oftheir first annual subscription.
SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
Wow, that's an incredible savings.
SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
Yeah, yeah.
I love that.
I just my biggest passion and amission in life is to give
people access to this tool.
Hopefully, it's at a at anaffordable price for most
people, and there are differentpayment plans that you can
choose from.
But mostly I just want to givepeople the the opportunity to be
able to heal themselves.
I mean, nobody should have tosuffer when this kind of stuff
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is available, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (24:55):
So Amy, what's setup like with the app?
Some people are technologyaverse, you know, they they
don't want to have yet anotherapp that they have to learn.
Tell us what the setup will belike.
SPEAKER_00 (25:08):
So there is an onboarding process that will ask
you, you know, what is yourexperience level with tapping?
And based on that experiencelevel, it'll give you hopefully
the corresponding amount ofinformation to make it easy for
you to get started.
And then we'll take you througha tapping round right away.
And what that means is thatyou'll choose from a list of
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things that you can work on andyou can say, I wanna, I wanna
work on feeling calm in thismoment.
So we'll take you through a veryquick 10-minute tapping round.
There's an avatar that will showyou by with pointing dots where
you need to be tapping on yourbody, and it will prompt you
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with exactly what to say.
So you're just going to repeateverything the recording says
and tap where the recording saysto tap and where the picture is
showing you to tap, and you justrepeat everything that the
recording says.
Beforehand, you're going to giveyourself a rating.
Say, how anxious am I feeling ona scale from zero to 10?
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And you say, Maybe I'm at a sixor whatever.
So you record that, then you dothe tapping round, and then you
record where you are afterwards,and that's it.
That is it's a very, very simpleapproach, but there's a lot of
magic that happens in there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:32):
So I love this so much because when I was first
introduced to tapping, it wasthrough little cards that showed
me where to tap.
But also the therapist that Iwas working with would give me
verbal instructions.
And as someone with a braininjury, I would always think,
oh, I'm taking enough notes.
And then I'd get home and therewere gaps in my notes, and I
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wasn't quite sure if I was doingit right.
And so it took a while to kindof get going with it.
And I love how the SOR withtapping app just makes it so
seamless and so effortlessbecause it shows you step by
step.
I love that so much.
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah.
We tried to do it on a lot ofdifferent levels.
So there's a visual cue andthere's verbal cues to tell you
where you need to tap.
But there's also what I want topoint out, there's a lot of
videos on the app that will tellyou and give you instructions
for how to work through biggertopics like depression.
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Because while there's a hundredand over 170 tapping scripts and
meditations available on theapp, if somebody walks into that
situation with depression ontheir mind, they're not going to
have any idea about where tostart.
And so there are a lot of videosthat tell you how to approach
things like anxiety ordepression or procrastination or
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addiction, weight loss, youknow, anything along those
lines.
Wow, those are some big ones.
That's amazing.
Because it's hard to figure outwhere to go with things like
that.
And there is a definite order,like you, like we talked about
earlier.
Let's work on those foundationalfears that were created out of
trauma first, because then it'sgoing to make everything else
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you work on afterwards that muchmore effective and successful.
SPEAKER_01 (28:24):
Well, I know that there are some end-user specific
pieces of data that someonemight enter, like their
emotional insights or progressmetrics.
How is that protected, handled,where how is it stored?
And tell us a little bit aboutprivacy.
It doesn't seem like you collectanything really from the app
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user, but it just solidify whatit is that you're collecting,
how it's handled, and what theycan expect.
SPEAKER_00 (28:56):
Okay.
Yes.
We don't keep anything, we don'tcapture any data other than your
email address.
The one thing that we do kind ofkeep track of is the amount of
time that you've been on theapp, how many numbers you have
gone down on the scale when yougo through a tapping round, and
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basically how many tappingrounds you've done.
We and we only do that so thatyou have a gauge and can and can
see how much time you'veinvested and how much progress
you've actually made.
Because it's really hard toquantify the emotional journey.
And we need to find ways tocelebrate these things.
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Otherwise, we get in our own wayand that critical voice comes in
and tells us that we're notenough again.
So we need to look be able tolook back and see, oh, I have
made some progress in this area.
But other than that, we don'tcapture a thing.
There are journaling functionson there, but we're not tracking
that.
We're not, you know, keeping.
It in any way, shape, or form.
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It is strictly for you, and youknow, we're not going to use it
ever.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
So it sounds like anything that the app user would
might enter into the app fortheir own notes or kept and
stored on their own phone andnothing is being sent to a
server somewhere.
That's correct.
SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
That's correct.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
What else do you want listeners to know?
I will of course drop all thelinks to how to get the app and
the discounts in the showdescription.
But is there anything else youwant us to leave us with?
And before you go, I'd also liketo know how could someone who
wanted to work with you directlyon a one-on-one basis with or
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without the app, how could theyconnect with you?
SPEAKER_00 (30:51):
Absolutely.
And I do have some spotsavailable for individual
clients.
They can always email me, Amy atsoarwithtapping.com.
But I think the one thing that Iwant to just encourage people to
do is to just try it.
To be honest, it looks sillywhen you first get started.
It feels silly.
(31:12):
It feels like, how could thispossibly be the powerful tool
that people are talking about?
And the truth is you have toexperience it in order to be
able to judge whether or not itis a good tool for you.
And it's not for everybody.
But I just encourage you to giveit a try.
There have been over 300 uhpeer-reviewed studies done that
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all show the effectiveness ofthis really powerful tool.
And the numbers are off thecharts about how effective it
is.
And so I just encourage peopleto suspend judgment, give it a
try.
It might feel uncomfortablebecause it is going to encourage
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you to engage with uncomfortableemotions.
But that is the magic of itbecause it will lead you through
the other to the other side ofthat and get you to a place of
feeling much better rather thanjust slapping on kind of a
cursory type of happy thought onon top of bad feelings.
(32:19):
It will actually move youthrough the bad feelings and get
you to the other side, feelingso much relief.
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
And that's where the healing is.
Thank you so much, Amy, forjoining us.
This has been very insightful.
SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
Oh, I'm so happy I was able to do this with you.
Thank you for having me.
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Amid escalating mental health challenges, EFT
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I'm your host, Antonet Lee, theWellness Warrior.
Let's dive into today'stransformational topic with Amy
Vinza.
In a world besieged byrelentless stress and emotional
turmoil, I imagine a simpletechnique that empowers
individuals to reclaim theirinner peace through mere
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fingertip pressure on the body.
Emotional freedom techniques, orEFT, commonly known as tapping,
emerges ancient acupressureprinciples with modern
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(02:30):
points while vocalizingaffirmations, effectively
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Veterans grappling withpost-traumatic stress have found
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At the forefront of thistransformative practice stands
Amy Vinza, founder of the Soarwith Tapping App.
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Amy Vinza has been a dedicatedprofessional in the health and
wellness industry for over 20years.
As a certified massagetherapist, nutritional
therapist, colon hydrotherapist,reiki master, and tapping coach,
she brings a wealth of expertiseto her work.
Since earning her certificationas a tapping coach 16 years ago,
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Amy's witnessed profoundtransformations both in her own
life and in the lives of herclients.
She has even used tapping toheal herself from painful
chronic medical conditions.
As the founder of the SorwardTapping App, Amy's on a mission
to make the life-changingbenefits of tapping accessible
to people everywhere.
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She firmly believes that tappingis one of the most powerful and
transformative healing toolsavailable today.
Amy, welcome to New Normal BigLife.
SPEAKER_00 (04:24):
Thank you for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
I'm excited about this topic because I have some
experience with EFT tapping.
So can you describe yourpersonal journey with EFT
tapping, including what thepivotal moment was that led you
from emotional struggles tobecoming a certified coach?
SPEAKER_00 (04:43):
I'd love to.
I think it's important for me tosay that I've always been
curious about human behavior,always kind of comparing my
behavior to that of somebodyelse and wondering why we have
different responses to differentsituations.
And I've been a seeker in thatregard, like always wanting to
(05:06):
be better, always wanting to tryharder, that sort of thing.
And I think that got thatjourney elevated when I was
diagnosed with breast cancer atthe age of 31.
And with no history of breastcancer in my family, it was
really just came out of leftfield and was not something I
(05:29):
was expecting.
And, you know, after the initialfears and treatment and surgery
and stuff like that, I reallygot curious.
I really looked at it like,okay, I'm biologically the same
mostly as this person standingnext to me.
What is it about me that made meget breast cancer and not this
(05:53):
person over here?
And so I really started goingdown the path of nutrition and
even spirituality.
And I sought out Tony Robbins atthe time.
I so I went to his events and afriend introduced me to tapping
at the event.
And I quickly recognized it as areally powerful tool.
(06:14):
I'm sure like you did, becauseyou've had experience with it as
well.
So, but I had used it over theyears with kind of limited
success.
Like I sometimes it would fallreally flat, and other times I
would experience some reallyprofound changes with it, and I
didn't understand what thedifference was.
(06:35):
So about seven years ago, I hadbeen certified for probably 16,
17 years now.
But seven years ago, I was inkind of another crisis moment in
my life where I, you know how itgoes with when everything is
just crumbling and changingaround you.
I my body was in pain a lot ofthe time.
I was having anxiety attacks.
(06:57):
I was depressed and I was aboutto lose my job.
Like everything was just, I wasin an unhappy state in a lot of
places in my life.
And I started turning totapping, but I did it a little
differently this time becausenormally I would focus on the
symptoms I was experiencing,whether it was procrastination
(07:18):
or anxiety, and it would help inthe moment, but nothing changed
long term with it.
And so I started asking myselfthe questions that were helping
me to get to what was underneathprocrastination.
Like, why exactly was Iprocrastinating?
What would be so horrible if Iachieved this goal that I say
(07:40):
that I want, but but it's I'mlike stopped dead in my tracks
and I'm paralyzed about movingforward with something.
And then it occurred to me thatI was afraid of failure.
And then I thought, okay, well,what's so bad about failure?
Like all the experts and reallysuccessful people out there say
(08:00):
that you have to fail a lot inorder to truly succeed.
So I'm like, okay, so what wouldhappen if I really failed
something?
And then the answer came that,well, it would confirm my my
greatest fears about myself,that I was there was something
(08:21):
wrong with me, and that I wasunworthy and deserving of having
success or even, you know,anything good in my life,
abundance of any kind.
And then I asked myself, well,why do I feel that way?
And I got to the answer, whichwas my dad left when I was four.
(08:41):
And that was the question that Ikept asking myself over and over
again after he left was, what'swrong with me?
What's wrong with because I, askids, we normally just point the
finger at ourselves and assumethat it's our fault if something
around us has happened, andwhich is exactly what I did.
But I lived the rest of my lifewith looking through the world
(09:05):
with that lens.
So when I started applyingtapping to those root causes, to
the trauma of my dad leaving andto all the limiting beliefs and
fears that were created out ofthat trauma, then I experienced
really profound results, really,really huge stuff.
It was like all of a sudden Icould see that the sky was blue.
(09:27):
And it was at that moment that Irecognized tapping for the truly
powerful tool that it is, andeverything changed.
I quit my job.
I was going to lose it anyway,but started my own business with
tapping and then built the appso that I could bring it to as
many as wide of an audience aspossible.
SPEAKER_01 (09:46):
Wow, that is an incredible personal journey into
tapping.
And your clinical experience asan EFT coach, what are some
common challenges that yourclients face?
And how do you tailor sessionsto address their root causes
effectively?
SPEAKER_00 (10:03):
Yeah, that's a great question.
And I think that the thing thatI see most often, it's not
exactly the type of trauma thatpeople experience, because I
mean, there are categories oftrauma that a lot of people go
through.
But the most common responsethat people don't often
recognize as a trauma responseis anxiety and overwhelm.
(10:27):
Because what happens in our bodyis that, you know, our
subconscious mind is constantlyscanning the horizon for
threats.
And it's not doing it from arational place, it's doing it
from a really irrational, almostchildlike place, because that's
typically where we experienceour trauma.
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And so anything that resemblesthe potential of experiencing
the pain that they had withtheir trauma again, even in the
most remote way, will causepeople to slip into an anxious
state.
Their amygdala gets triggered,they go into fight or flight
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mode, and cortisol is rushedthroughout our body.
And then, and nobody, like 99%of the time, nobody understands
why or how they were triggered.
They're just in this anxiousstate and they don't know what
to do with it.
And we've got a lot of tools andpeople out there helping people
to manage the symptoms ofanxiety, which EFT is a great
(11:32):
tool for doing that, because ittells the amygdala over and over
again in our brain de-escalate,de-escalate, de-escalate.
It's okay to feel safe and calmabout this.
There is no immediate threat.
And it's okay to relax in thismoment.
And when it's doing that, it isreducing cortisol in our bodies
(11:53):
43% faster than if we had donenothing else.
It's lowering heart rate, it islowering blood pressure, it is
increasing immune response andincreasing happiness levels.
So there's a lot going on whenwe just start tapping on our
acupressure points and talkingabout what it is we're
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experiencing.
SPEAKER_01 (12:14):
And who typically benefits from EFT tapping?
And are there specificdemographics or conditions where
it's most profound in theresults?
SPEAKER_00 (12:26):
I would say it's highly individualized, and I'll
give a couple of examples of whythat is so.
For example, like somebody thatexperienced what I'll refer to
as a big T trauma, a wartimeevent, a big car accident, a
major illness in their body,physical or sexual assault,
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something along those lines, Iwould consider a big T trauma.
And typically those events, thenumber of times that people have
experienced those events arepretty small.
And so working through thoseevents with tapping, with
hopefully a very skilledprofessional, because we don't
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want to re-traumatize somebodyand we take it extremely slow
and be very sensitive about howwe move forward with it.
Those can clear and neutralizereally quickly because it didn't
happen a lot of times.
And because people don'ttypically develop limiting
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beliefs around it, it didn't,and if it didn't go on for like
an extended period of time, likedecades or even longer, like
it's really easy to releasethose things.
Like in the matter of two tothree sessions, like a sexual
assault can be completelyneutralized.
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I mean, which is remarkable,something that people get really
affected by at a such a deeplevel, it's remarkable that it
can have that quick of an effecton somebody.
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SPEAKER_00 (15:33):
But complex trauma, littlet trauma, which is thing,
something like having an angryparent.
And so you always feel likeyou're walking on eggshells and
trying to avoid them gettingangry and having, you know, some
physical or even just emotionaloutburst.
Or it could be if you wereignored by your parents.
(15:55):
Maybe it's something as simpleas they had to work two to three
jobs in order to make sure thateverybody had a roof over their
heads and food on the table, butyou as a child felt ignored and
it went on for a long period oftime.
That's more of a complex trauma,which had which can create a lot
of fears and a lot of limitingbeliefs about who you are, which
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is much, much harder to reallyneutralize all of the effects of
that.
And it will take an extendedperiod of time, but it will
depend on how often you utilizetapping in order to achieve
those results.
So if you're you're working witha professional or even tapping
on it like once every otherweek, it's going to take a long
(16:40):
period of time.
But if you were working on it,giving it like two hours a day
for a week, you can move throughit like that.
So there's that aspect.
So it really depends on what itis you want to work through.
And then there is the type ofperson that is doing the
tapping.
If you have a lot ofself-awareness and are able to
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verbalize your feelings andunderstand like what sadness
feels like in your body and whatanger feels like in your body,
and be able to verbalize andexpress how that feels, then
you're going to achieve fasterresults.
If you have a little bit of aharder time with that, it's just
gonna, it's like a muscle thatneeds to be exercised and
(17:28):
strengthened.
And over time, you will get tothe point where you can not only
recognize what you're feeling,but verbalize it and release it
really quickly.
So, yeah, there's there's a fewitems that come into play with
it, but I have worked withchildren like five years old and
have she's released somethingreally quickly.
(17:50):
I've worked with teenagers andthey release very quickly
because they don't have anextended history of struggles in
a certain area, typically, andadults take a little bit longer,
but again, it depends on theperson and what they're working
on.
SPEAKER_01 (18:07):
So you've talked about working with an EFT
tapping coach, and I know thatwe're gonna talk about an app in
just a moment, but how will apotential client make the
decision between working with anapp and working with a coach?
How do you make that decisionfor yourself?
SPEAKER_00 (18:28):
Very, very good question.
If somebody has trauma that theyneed to work through, I would
always recommend working with aEFT professional because while,
like I said, there are differentcategories of traumas, each
person's trauma and eat theeffect that the trauma had on
(18:50):
each person is soindividualized.
But there is a really distincttimeline of a trauma where
multiple points along thattimeline, there are going to be
moments where there are feelingsof shame, regret, guilt, uh, or
(19:11):
f and or fear, all of the abovesometimes, and they all need to
be neutralized in order for thewhole event to be neutralized.
And so it takes somebody, ittakes somebody working with a
coach to be able to recognizewhen those moments are, because
we if I was trying to workthrough my own trauma by myself,
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I have too many judgments andcriticisms about how I responded
to be able to be non-judgmentalabout those moments enough to
recognize that that's somethingI need to tap on.
So an outside person can have areally clear perspective on
where the trigger points are andwhat needs to be worked through.
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The app is a really greatsupport tool for everything that
comes afterwards.
So all of the fears thatdeveloped from trauma, all the
limiting beliefs about maybe I'mstupid, or maybe I'm lazy, or
you know, anything along thoselines, or symptoms like I can't
sleep at night, or I've got thisanxiety, or I'm feeling
(20:21):
depression, or or I'm havemassive cravings for food or
alcohol or something along thoselines.
Those are everything that comesafter trauma, and those are all
symptoms of trauma.
So start always start with thetrauma itself.
And because it's like it's likeputting water on the coals of a
(20:45):
fire.
Because if you're just workingup at the top of the flames,
it's not going to put that out,you know, from the base, from
the root.
You have to pour water over thecoals first, and then you can
deal with all of the otherthings that are still simmering
with fire.
SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
So suppose a client wants to work with an EFT
tapping coach, but theirinsurance provider won't their
insurance carrier won't coverit, and they don't have the
means to work with a coach outof pocket.
However, let's suppose theirinsurance carrier says, Well, I
(21:26):
I am covering your therapistsessions.
Could a person maybe who wantsto work with a soar with tapping
app, which we'll talk about in amoment?
Could they bring the app totheir therapist or social worker
and say, I'd like to incorporatethis technique on this app in
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our sessions?
Would someone be open to that?
SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
I I do believe they would.
And I think a lot moretherapists are adopting this
tool in their practice becauseit is so effective.
But I do want to point out, youmentioned that you have a lot of
veterans that are part of yourlistenership.
And I do want to point out thatthere is a program, especially
for veterans, where they canreceive free EFT tapping
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sessions.
And there have been some amazingresults and studies done on how
effective EFT is, particularlyfor veterans that have
experienced PTSD andor resultingdepression or anxiety or
insomnia afterwards.
There are really great resultsregarding that.
And I just want to quickly, if Ican, give you the name of that
(22:39):
program so your listeners canhear it.
It's called the Veteran StressProject, and they offer free EFT
coaching sessions for veteransand their families, which can be
provided in person or via Zoomor something along those lines.
And how would a veteran accessthis program?
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I would just search it on Googleand find out, get a web page and
contact them directly.
SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
Oh, I meant would they need a consult from their
primary care physician?
SPEAKER_00 (23:13):
Is it all Oh, I I don't know.
That's a good question.
They might have to have a di adiagnosis of PTSD in order to
get the free sessions, but Ihave I have not done enough
research to be able to answerthat accurately.
So if you're if you are justbelow that but are still having
symptoms, I would definitelyreach out and see if they have a
(23:37):
program that might be able tokind of catch you in there.
SPEAKER_01 (23:41):
I'll give some spend some time doing some research,
and then if I find out anything,it'll be in the show notes.
Okay, great.
What can or how can someonewanting to use SOAR with tapping
get your app?
SPEAKER_00 (23:58):
Well, you can search for it on the Android or Google
Play Stores, just search forSore with Tapping, or you and
Apple users, they can go to mywebsite, go to
soarwithtapping.com forwardslash podcast dash special, and
there they can find a code toinput into the app once they
(24:19):
download it to get 50% off oftheir first annual subscription.
SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
Wow, that's an incredible savings.
SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
Yeah, yeah.
I love that.
I just my biggest passion and amission in life is to give
people access to this tool.
Hopefully, it's at a at anaffordable price for most
people, and there are differentpayment plans that you can
choose from.
But mostly I just want to givepeople the the opportunity to be
able to heal themselves.
I mean, nobody should have tosuffer when this kind of stuff
(24:52):
is available, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (24:55):
So Amy, what's setup like with the app?
Some people are technologyaverse, you know, they they
don't want to have yet anotherapp that they have to learn.
Tell us what the setup will belike.
SPEAKER_00 (25:08):
So there is an onboarding process that will ask
you, you know, what is yourexperience level with tapping?
And based on that experiencelevel, it'll give you hopefully
the corresponding amount ofinformation to make it easy for
you to get started.
And then we'll take you througha tapping round right away.
And what that means is thatyou'll choose from a list of
(25:31):
things that you can work on andyou can say, I wanna, I wanna
work on feeling calm in thismoment.
So we'll take you through a veryquick 10-minute tapping round.
There's an avatar that will showyou by with pointing dots where
you need to be tapping on yourbody, and it will prompt you
(25:52):
with exactly what to say.
So you're just going to repeateverything the recording says
and tap where the recording saysto tap and where the picture is
showing you to tap, and you justrepeat everything that the
recording says.
Beforehand, you're going to giveyourself a rating.
Say, how anxious am I feeling ona scale from zero to 10?
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And you say, Maybe I'm at a sixor whatever.
So you record that, then you dothe tapping round, and then you
record where you are afterwards,and that's it.
That is it's a very, very simpleapproach, but there's a lot of
magic that happens in there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:32):
So I love this so much because when I was first
introduced to tapping, it wasthrough little cards that showed
me where to tap.
But also the therapist that Iwas working with would give me
verbal instructions.
And as someone with a braininjury, I would always think,
oh, I'm taking enough notes.
And then I'd get home and therewere gaps in my notes, and I
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wasn't quite sure if I was doingit right.
And so it took a while to kindof get going with it.
And I love how the SOR withtapping app just makes it so
seamless and so effortlessbecause it shows you step by
step.
I love that so much.
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah.
We tried to do it on a lot ofdifferent levels.
So there's a visual cue andthere's verbal cues to tell you
where you need to tap.
But there's also what I want topoint out, there's a lot of
videos on the app that will tellyou and give you instructions
for how to work through biggertopics like depression.
(27:30):
Because while there's a hundredand over 170 tapping scripts and
meditations available on theapp, if somebody walks into that
situation with depression ontheir mind, they're not going to
have any idea about where tostart.
And so there are a lot of videosthat tell you how to approach
things like anxiety ordepression or procrastination or
(27:54):
addiction, weight loss, youknow, anything along those
lines.
Wow, those are some big ones.
That's amazing.
Because it's hard to figure outwhere to go with things like
that.
And there is a definite order,like you, like we talked about
earlier.
Let's work on those foundationalfears that were created out of
trauma first, because then it'sgoing to make everything else
(28:17):
you work on afterwards that muchmore effective and successful.
SPEAKER_01 (28:24):
Well, I know that there are some end-user specific
pieces of data that someonemight enter, like their
emotional insights or progressmetrics.
How is that protected, handled,where how is it stored?
And tell us a little bit aboutprivacy.
It doesn't seem like you collectanything really from the app
(28:47):
user, but it just solidify whatit is that you're collecting,
how it's handled, and what theycan expect.
SPEAKER_00 (28:56):
Okay.
Yes.
We don't keep anything, we don'tcapture any data other than your
email address.
The one thing that we do kind ofkeep track of is the amount of
time that you've been on theapp, how many numbers you have
gone down on the scale when yougo through a tapping round, and
(29:19):
basically how many tappingrounds you've done.
We and we only do that so thatyou have a gauge and can and can
see how much time you'veinvested and how much progress
you've actually made.
Because it's really hard toquantify the emotional journey.
And we need to find ways tocelebrate these things.
(29:40):
Otherwise, we get in our own wayand that critical voice comes in
and tells us that we're notenough again.
So we need to look be able tolook back and see, oh, I have
made some progress in this area.
But other than that, we don'tcapture a thing.
There are journaling functionson there, but we're not tracking
that.
We're not, you know, keeping.
It in any way, shape, or form.
(30:02):
It is strictly for you, and youknow, we're not going to use it
ever.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
So it sounds like anything that the app user would
might enter into the app fortheir own notes or kept and
stored on their own phone andnothing is being sent to a
server somewhere.
That's correct.
SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
That's correct.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
What else do you want listeners to know?
I will of course drop all thelinks to how to get the app and
the discounts in the showdescription.
But is there anything else youwant us to leave us with?
And before you go, I'd also liketo know how could someone who
wanted to work with you directlyon a one-on-one basis with or
(30:48):
without the app, how could theyconnect with you?
SPEAKER_00 (30:51):
Absolutely.
And I do have some spotsavailable for individual
clients.
They can always email me, Amy atsoarwithtapping.com.
But I think the one thing that Iwant to just encourage people to
do is to just try it.
To be honest, it looks sillywhen you first get started.
It feels silly.
(31:12):
It feels like, how could thispossibly be the powerful tool
that people are talking about?
And the truth is you have toexperience it in order to be
able to judge whether or not itis a good tool for you.
And it's not for everybody.
But I just encourage you to giveit a try.
There have been over 300 uhpeer-reviewed studies done that
(31:37):
all show the effectiveness ofthis really powerful tool.
And the numbers are off thecharts about how effective it
is.
And so I just encourage peopleto suspend judgment, give it a
try.
It might feel uncomfortablebecause it is going to encourage
(31:58):
you to engage with uncomfortableemotions.
But that is the magic of itbecause it will lead you through
the other to the other side ofthat and get you to a place of
feeling much better rather thanjust slapping on kind of a
cursory type of happy thought onon top of bad feelings.
(32:19):
It will actually move youthrough the bad feelings and get
you to the other side, feelingso much relief.
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
And that's where the healing is.
Thank you so much, Amy, forjoining us.
This has been very insightful.
SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
Oh, I'm so happy I was able to do this with you.
Thank you for having me.
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