April 1, 2022 • 21 mins
Matt Williamson, Dale Lolley and Mike Prisuta give you their third mock draft look at the 2022 NFL Draft in the episode of NFL Draft Triple Take
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL
Draft Triple Take, presented by u P m C Mike
pursued of Matt Williamson and Dale Lolly with you once
again as we continue our assault on the upcoming NFL
Draft at the end of April. We've been going through
our lists position by position. We're in the process of
hitting the positions for a second time, and today we
(00:22):
hit you with our third mock round one. And the
beauty of this is, Hey, your n C Double A
tournament bracket is no doubt busted by now, but mock
drafts live on at least until the end of April.
Everybody's got a winner if they're doing them. In St.
Peter's they have a winning mock draft right about now.
But Matt a bone to pick with you before we
(00:45):
kick off, or as we kick things off. This being
our third mock draft, I wanted to color outside the
lines a little bit and see what that would look
like and kind of shake things up and go against
conventional wisdom more than the consensus uh public door media.
And you did the same thing. You stole my thunder
mocking Malik Willis quarterback Liberty to the Detroit Lions on
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the second round. Yeah, and part of me is kind
of like what you mentioned, the overall right, right, and
just kind of want to see what happens if it
does go down that way. And I think Willis is
obviously a massive talent. You know, we've talked about him
in our quarterback triple takes. I mean obviously, you know,
people around here are very familiar with his work. There's
(01:30):
a lot there to work with. But if you're the Lions,
it's actually not a bad landing spot. You know, golf
can hold down the fort. They built an offensive line,
there's a lot of quarterback friendly options like Hawkinson and
Swift and am St Brown, and they added d J. Chark.
So if they can't get Hutchinson, I don't think it's crazy,
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but part of me thinks, hey, Willis could not even
go in the top fifteen. You know what you could
throw in the stability of a new staff that's just
one year in and seemingly pretty popular with the fan
base and ownership, some positive signs, and he is a
compliment to the existing guy, Jared Goff. He could be
your third down guy, your bowline guy. You could get
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a little something. Yeah, I think it makes a great
deal sense and as Dale is well aware, having been
to Mobile, Alabama. Uh, Dan Campbell and Malik Willis were
in close proximity during Senior Bowl week. Dale, do you
buy into this craziness? Matt ny are talking Malik Willis
second overall to the Lions. I could see it happening, guys.
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I I just don't know if he goes at two,
and I think that might be a little rich. I mean,
I think when you're picking it to uh, you want
to get a sure, sure fire home run. Um. You know,
I I see that your point at your side of this,
But I just don't think they go that direction. In fact,
I have him taking Akawanu with Aidan Hutchinson gone. Um.
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I know they have a strong offensive line. They could
play him at hard for a year. Uh. They're they're
starting left tackle whose name escapes me right now. Uh.
Decker I believe will be a free agent after after
this season. So you know, you could kind of help
yourself out in that direction as well. And you can
still resign Decker and you keep Kawanda eight guard, but
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you have options in well, let's uh, let's proceed here
with mock three the way we did mock two, and
that is, rather than go over every pick and and
beat the horse until it's well past its expiration, Dake,
we'll kind of take it in third. So day we'll
stick with you, uh, your top ten, A little choky,
little little down the middle, anything jump out at you
(03:38):
in your first tense selections here. Yeah, some of the
some of the edge rushers are kind of getting moved
up the board. In particular George Carl Loftus I had
going at ten because because of the a Jabo injury. Um,
I think that's gonna shuffle things quite a bit. Yeah, yeah,
good pro day for him. Uh, the a job O injury. Uh,
(04:01):
you know, I think what's going to happen here. In fact,
I know this is going to happen. I heard this
when I was down at the owners meeting. Is a
lot of the guys now aren't going to go through
the drills and run at their pro days because of
what happened to David Jabo. Um, you know you're talking
about a guy who was, you know, uh, pretty much
a first round pick and now he's probably gonna fall
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into the second round because of that achilles tendon injury.
And I think that's going to cause a lot of
these other guys to not work out after this. It's
also going to uh, it's also gonna benefit our guys
like George Carl Loftus and maybe even like you know,
Jermaine Johnson, guys with that that nature. Matt, Let's take
a look at your top ten picks and uh, what
the did you find intriguing beyond Malik Willis to Detroit
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its second overall kind of harp on what Dale said
about these edge pass rushers getting pushed up. We mentioned
I had Willis at two, but my other top four
we're all edge rushers. There. You have three edge rushers
and Willis, and that could go a lot of different directions. Mean,
predicting what Houston's gonna do with Koree is very difficulty.
They could take anything, anything right. But then that played
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into Carolina, you know, sitting there with Evan neo verse
quarterback too, I think that becomes an easy choice for
them to take the tackle. And then you know, harping
on the quarterback thing at eight with Atlanta and nine
with Seattle, I think that those two teams are extremely
quarterback needy and Willis Pickett whomever could end up at
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eight or nine. But both those teams, to me, they
both traded, you know, potential Hall of Fame quarterbacks this offseason.
The status of their roster, I think it's built the
next time for next year's quarterback. I would not really
be in the quarterback market if I were Seattle in Atlanta,
I think those rosters are in bad shape right now. Yeah,
I'm I'm gonna agree with you again. I've got it
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the same way I've got Atlanta taking Chris A Lava
from the High State Conversity Garrett Wilson's to me, they're
the same guy, I mean, another different player, but they're
both elite receivers. I happen to like a Lava a
little better just just because just from watching games over
the years. And I've got Seattle taken u e kuon
Kwan you from NC State and Charles Cross. I emphasize
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the edge rusher is pretty good as well. My number
one to Jacksonville as Trayvon Walker. I'm not sure it's
gonna be. It's still not gonna be a tackle because
Cam Robinson has only brought back theoretically for the short term. Uh,
And you can always draft your guy and play with
guard this year and then moving to tackle next year.
But I went Walker number one. I think he is
the most intriguing. I think he's the Malik Willis of
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edge rushers. Uh not that he played at a lower level,
but I want to look back five years from now
and see who's done the most and who's had the
higher upside. I'm not convinced it's not Trayvon Walker. And
I've also got Kenny Pickett going to Carolina at six.
I think Willis gets people thinking about quarterbacks. And I
think Matt Rule, you know, similar situation to atlant in Seattle.
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They got a guy, but is he the guy? Matt
Rule once had Kenny Pickett agree to come play for
him at Temple University, and uh it never worked out.
But there's a history with those guys. So, as I said,
I'm trying to shake it up a little bit and
see what this thing looks like that guys. The one
thing that that's gonna change. We still have a month
before the draft. Something's going to happen with a couple
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of these quarterback situations, one way or the other. I
do believe that like something the Browns will do something
with Baker Mayfield. Uh, you know, there's still a good chance.
There's still a good chance that something happens with Garoppolo
and that could shake up the quarterback market, as we've
seen already. And that's why we'll do a mock for
That's why we'll do him again and was many times
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as we have to get there's two there's two selections
you just mentioned there. I want to harp on a
little bit because I almost put Walker at one. If
you look at the the Jags GM going back to
his Niners days, he drafts no short armed guys. You know,
he wants Alden Smith and the only knock on Hutchinson's
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he's got short arms. You mentioned the rule picket connection. Well,
you happen to know where the Carolina Panthers owner went
to college. He's a pit guy. There you go. This
is a better and better we put our heads together,
we're talking about we get it figured out day. Let's
get back to you. Take me through eleven through twenty
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on your list. Uh, what what do you what do
you like about it? What did you throw at the wall?
You know, I James Jamison Williams to me is one
of the toughest guys to slot. He and Tyler linder
Bomb are the two guys that I look at and go, Okay,
they're both kind of first round talents, but the fit
has to be right. I slow, I slotted linder Bomb
right out of the first round. By the way, did
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you well, That's that's one way to do it. I had,
I had. I got Jamison Williams going to the Commanders
at eleven. Uh, and then I had linder Bomb going
to the Vikings at twelve. And I know the Vikings
have uh, you know, Garrett Bradbury as center. Um, they
can move him to guard. His contract is up after
this year, I believe, So there's there's things that you
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can do there. And you know, I think, you know,
you just look at the how he would fit in
that offense? Uh would work because he's just starting. He
doesn't fit in every offense. And you know, with Jamison Williams,
you're probably gonna have to wait a little while to
get him on the field. But man, when you get
him on the field, you probably have the best wide
receiver in this draft. So uh, you know, And then
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after that, it was the receiver started coming off the
board pretty quickly, Matt, just from your you know, scouting
background and scouting experience, guys such as the one day
I'll just mentioned Jamison Williams and um A Jabo And
if there's any other injuries out there, can that status
change between now and draft day or do they pretty
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much make their decisions. Hey, this guy is probably not ready,
so plan that way. Um Well, one thing I think
we need to stress is there is another gathering in
Indianapolis between now in the draft for just to select
few medical re checks. And I'm sure both those young
men will be there. And it's always good to get
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ahold of that list because when you you sit there
when we're broadcasting Live with Dale and everybody, and somebody's
there in the third round you thought was in the
first but oh he went to the medical recheck. Maybe
there's something more wrong with him than we thought, or
there was more concerning um that being said, though, like
a guy like Williams, to me, I might be more
a job Oh really, and I actually have a job
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o going at the end of the first round to
the Lions because of the fifth year option. If I
don't need him right away again, a job out the Lions.
They missed out on Hutchinson because it took Willis that
I want that fifth year option because if I have
to red shirt him and then only have three more,
then it's not that attractive to me. But if I
read shirt hum and I have four more when I'm
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apparently a better team, that's appealing to me. They couldn't
have stated it any better. I also think they fixed
knees now they do. Medicine's got a long way, Yeah,
especially for the especially for the lighter guys. I know
a lot of Steeler fans will look at that go, well,
you know Zack Banner, Well, he's a he's a heavier
guy that you're talking here about. Uh. And Matt and
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I've talked about this on the Drive, where offensive players
coming back off of something like that, they know where
they're running. They're not in a read and react kind
of situation, like they know where they're running, you would hope.
So they're supposed to know where they're running. So you know,
a guy like Jamison Williams, you know, can get back
on the field a little bit quicker, uh, you know,
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than than you know from an a C L with
a job bo. It's a it's an Achilles. Um. You
know we've seen guys come back from Achilles that same year. Um,
you know that seems to be a very common injury. Now,
I don't. I don't remember hearing that injury as much
twenty years ago, do you, Mike, I do not. But
now it's suddenly it's become a more prevalent in the
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in the football game. And you know, I guess it's
a quick twitch injury or a Mark Cabole injury. One
of the two. Yeah, let's let's go with the former. Uh.
To me, the fascinating part of the middle is Philadelphia
because the Eagles are picking a shifteen sixteen and nineteen.
I've got him going with the Carl Loftus from Perdue.
They love defensive lineman uh, and Philly particularly defensive ends. Uh.
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He's starting to move up, as we alluded to at
the start of the broadcast here today, I've got the
Eagles taking Jamison Williams at sixteen because I don't think
they'll be able to resist and you get that, uh,
Jalen Hurts Williams and the guy they took last year,
and uh, they're in pretty good shape. Roll tiede and
uh at nineteen. I went cornerback Matt You've got him
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taking uh, Devin Lloyd, so we're both thinking defense, but
different position there at pick nineteen. Yeah. I also went
receiver edge with London and Jermaine Johnson at fifteen sixteen
and then I went with them. So we're talking apples
and apples, just kind of different apples for I did
it backwards. I took Stingley first at them for fifteen,
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then London and then Devin Lloyd. Stingley. Stingley another guy
who maybe should be at that uh gathering in Indianapolis.
That his his He said he's gonna work out of
this pro day next week. L s u is next week. Again.
We'll see if that now happens because of what happened
to a Jobbo. But yeah, he's He's definitely a guy
that people are gonna want to have back to check
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on that foot. Another one, uh, one of my favorite
players in this draft, Jordan Davis, a defensive tackle from Georgia.
I've got him going to the Chargers because the Chargers
had problems stopping the run. Draft him, now you don't
have problems stopping the run. That's my theory. I think
this kid's special and uh, I think he's gonna be
an impact player sooner rather than later in the NFL.
They all started one note. I'm sorry because I would
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just want to bring this up about linder Bomb. I
had linder Bomb going fourteen to the Ravens, but only
because there was a run in my mock of Jordan
Davis and corners falling left and right. If linder Bomb
doesn't go to Baltimore, they kind of a whole enter
right now. He could fall aways, you know, to Dale's point. Yeah, yeah,
you had him drop it out. Yeah, see you tomorrow.
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Let's get Let's get to twenty and your Pittsburgh Steelers.
Dale take the floor, police, I got him take getting
them a leak. Willis in this scenario, Um, I just
think that some of those other quarterback spots are gonna
get taken. Um you know, I know they want him potentially,
uh you know, as a long term answer, Maybe that happens,
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maybe it doesn't. I think he would be tough to
pass on. And they're really the only guy that I
considered in that spot at twenty who was still available
in my draft was Trent McDuffie. Mike my cornerbacks fell
a little bit farther, and then there was I had
a run there in the mid twenties of of cornerbacks
that went McDuffie, Andrew Booth and then Kyler Gordon and
Cayer Elam all went in that bottom half of the
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first round. I mean, the quarters go and that's that's
you know, they typically go in the first round. So
it would be a tough choice for the Steelers. I think,
you know, between Malik Willis and a guy who I
think is really talented, like Trent McDuffie that they could
use as well. So that would be interesting. Matt. You've
got a going wide receiver, which is again there are
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I don't think that there are any wrong answers here. Uh,
there's just different interpretations of you know, priority of of
whole filling. And I'm a big fan of Williams. I'm
not too concerned about the injury thing. I take it,
Matt that you are not either. No, and a couple
of names that were thrown out there. Willis was gone,
Jordan Davis was gone, Trent McDuffie was gone, and Trevor
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Penning was gone. So not that this is a consolation prize,
but I think Williams, if he's clean, is probably the
best receiver in this draft. And I've been saying on
the drive, if you give me four and a half
years of Jamison Williams on a rookie contract, that's well worth. Yeah,
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it makes a lot of sense, particularly with the position
being in flow. I'm up with Devin Lloyd of Utah.
Now in my scenario, Malik Willis is long gone and
Jordan Davis UH goes to the Chargers as as I mentioned,
you know, run stuffing, Uh instant run stuffing there for
the l A Chargers. Those guys would be if I
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was doing the picking, I would rank them in that
order Willis, Davis and then Lloyd would be third. If
Lloyd for some reason wouldn't be there, than Matt I'd
be with you on that wide receiver train. There's a
lot of receivers you get in day two too, so
there's a lot of way there. And Matt will stick
with you as we round it out picks uh through
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number thirty two. What do you got that stands out?
One thing I think is now we're talking receivers. All
of a sudden, these playoff teams, like I don't think
they were happy. Then my mock that the Steelers took
a wide out because the Patriots are right behind them.
And then Green Bay's now got two picks, but they
don't have Davante Adams. Kansas City has two picks, but
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they don't have Tyreek Hill. So you know, I could
see some of these receivers going pretty high, and I
could see some of these playoff teams, maybe even Tennessee
not being super thrilled about it. In my draft though,
Kansas City ended up with Clark Carl loftus, I don't
know if he can last that long. And Dotson from
Penn State and the Packers ended up with a Lava
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who certainly could go earlier than twenty two. And I
also gave them Raymond the tackle from Central Michigan. Yeah,
I was, I had the same slot there. Dale. Uh
you mentioned, uh your run on corners gets well underway here,
and uh, I fund it. Interesting. You know, this is
the third time we've done this. For some reason, I've
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had John Dotson to the Chiefs and every every version
of it, even though that even though they're goalpost a
little bit, Uh, you've got the same thing. It just
looks like the Chief's receiver. To me, it has to be.
I mean, it just does. Because they've lost some guys
in free agency. You know, they traded Tyreek Hill. The
only real addition has been Juju Smith Schuster. They need speed.
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Johan Dotson would bring that and I think that makes
a lot of sense. And then you know, I had
him taking Dax Hill the safety out of Michigan at
thirty as well, um, because you know what's going on
with with Tyrara and math all on them. And even
if they even if they resigned matth Ou, I mean
they were starting. They were running Daniel Sorenson out there
a lot last year. They could certainly use an upgrade
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and he would give him a lot of options. And Matt,
I'm I'm with you on a job at thirty two.
You know, the Lions have five picks in the top
nineties seven and if they don't take Hutchinson up top,
which in my scenario they would have that opportunity, or
they might not. They gotta get the other Michigan Wolverine
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and uh, you know, throw a little bone to the fans.
And plus again, upside, this guy is in his infancy
in terms of development. He's got the physical skills, He's
obviously competitive enough. Uh he's a fast learner, and I
think there's a lot to like there. Uh So if
I'm if I'm Detroit, I'm gonna take him and again
pending the medicals. But uh, what's what's the early guess
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is he's ready for camp or the season right around,
you know, sometime in that frame, probably in September. Yeah,
And I looked at it this way, like, hey, hey,
Lions fans, no offense, but you're probably not winning the
Super Bowl this year. So if I only get four
years of his five year contract, I'm still really happy.
As opposed to taking him, you know, the second pick
in the second round, I want that fifth year option
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for the injured guys. Well, here's what I here's what
I did with the Lions guys. I had the Lions
taking Kenny Pickett at thirty two and then putting Jared
Goff up for trade. Oh, I'm just going right to
pick it, going right to pick it. They could get
something for Jared Goff right now. I believe they could
as well. That's an interesting scenario. I think that's possible. Hey,
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right now, anything is possible. That's the way it is.
It's April, baby, I'm gonna yeah. So of us had
two quarterback is going in the first round, correct, I
only had to Yeah, I had going in the first
I had Corral going to the Saints until the until
the Andy Dalton development, and uh, I took them off there.
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I had Willison to pick it at six and I
think that's it. I had picked it to the Saints
and that and that was before the Dalton news. So, uh,
it seems unlikely that they would add three new quarterbacks
this year. Well, they did move the other one to
a tight end, so that's true. That's gonna do it
for Mark three. Hope you got to kick out of that,
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because we're certainly having a lot of fun, uh, throwing
it back and forth and seeing where lands. I want
to remind everybody that you can access all of these
types of shows on all of the Steelers social media platforms.
We'll be doing it again real soon. Until then, thank
you for finding us this time, wherever and however you
found us. For Matt Williamson and Dye Lolly on Mike Pursuita.
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Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL
Draft Triple Take, presented by u P m C Mike
pursued of Matt Williamson and Dale Lolly with you once
again as we continue our assault on the upcoming NFL
Draft at the end of April. We've been going through
our lists position by position. We're in the process of
hitting the positions for a second time, and today we
(00:22):
hit you with our third mock round one. And the
beauty of this is, Hey, your n C Double A
tournament bracket is no doubt busted by now, but mock
drafts live on at least until the end of April.
Everybody's got a winner if they're doing them. In St.
Peter's they have a winning mock draft right about now.
But Matt a bone to pick with you before we
(00:45):
kick off, or as we kick things off. This being
our third mock draft, I wanted to color outside the
lines a little bit and see what that would look
like and kind of shake things up and go against
conventional wisdom more than the consensus uh public door media.
And you did the same thing. You stole my thunder
mocking Malik Willis quarterback Liberty to the Detroit Lions on
(01:09):
the second round. Yeah, and part of me is kind
of like what you mentioned, the overall right, right, and
just kind of want to see what happens if it
does go down that way. And I think Willis is
obviously a massive talent. You know, we've talked about him
in our quarterback triple takes. I mean obviously, you know,
people around here are very familiar with his work. There's
(01:30):
a lot there to work with. But if you're the Lions,
it's actually not a bad landing spot. You know, golf
can hold down the fort. They built an offensive line,
there's a lot of quarterback friendly options like Hawkinson and
Swift and am St Brown, and they added d J. Chark.
So if they can't get Hutchinson, I don't think it's crazy,
(01:52):
but part of me thinks, hey, Willis could not even
go in the top fifteen. You know what you could
throw in the stability of a new staff that's just
one year in and seemingly pretty popular with the fan
base and ownership, some positive signs, and he is a
compliment to the existing guy, Jared Goff. He could be
your third down guy, your bowline guy. You could get
(02:13):
a little something. Yeah, I think it makes a great
deal sense and as Dale is well aware, having been
to Mobile, Alabama. Uh, Dan Campbell and Malik Willis were
in close proximity during Senior Bowl week. Dale, do you
buy into this craziness? Matt ny are talking Malik Willis
second overall to the Lions. I could see it happening, guys.
(02:33):
I I just don't know if he goes at two,
and I think that might be a little rich. I mean,
I think when you're picking it to uh, you want
to get a sure, sure fire home run. Um. You know,
I I see that your point at your side of this,
But I just don't think they go that direction. In fact,
I have him taking Akawanu with Aidan Hutchinson gone. Um.
(02:57):
I know they have a strong offensive line. They could
play him at hard for a year. Uh. They're they're
starting left tackle whose name escapes me right now. Uh.
Decker I believe will be a free agent after after
this season. So you know, you could kind of help
yourself out in that direction as well. And you can
still resign Decker and you keep Kawanda eight guard, but
(03:17):
you have options in well, let's uh, let's proceed here
with mock three the way we did mock two, and
that is, rather than go over every pick and and
beat the horse until it's well past its expiration, Dake,
we'll kind of take it in third. So day we'll
stick with you, uh, your top ten, A little choky,
little little down the middle, anything jump out at you
(03:38):
in your first tense selections here. Yeah, some of the
some of the edge rushers are kind of getting moved
up the board. In particular George Carl Loftus I had
going at ten because because of the a Jabo injury. Um,
I think that's gonna shuffle things quite a bit. Yeah, yeah,
good pro day for him. Uh, the a job O injury. Uh,
(04:01):
you know, I think what's going to happen here. In fact,
I know this is going to happen. I heard this
when I was down at the owners meeting. Is a
lot of the guys now aren't going to go through
the drills and run at their pro days because of
what happened to David Jabo. Um, you know you're talking
about a guy who was, you know, uh, pretty much
a first round pick and now he's probably gonna fall
(04:21):
into the second round because of that achilles tendon injury.
And I think that's going to cause a lot of
these other guys to not work out after this. It's
also going to uh, it's also gonna benefit our guys
like George Carl Loftus and maybe even like you know,
Jermaine Johnson, guys with that that nature. Matt, Let's take
a look at your top ten picks and uh, what
the did you find intriguing beyond Malik Willis to Detroit
(04:45):
its second overall kind of harp on what Dale said
about these edge pass rushers getting pushed up. We mentioned
I had Willis at two, but my other top four
we're all edge rushers. There. You have three edge rushers
and Willis, and that could go a lot of different directions. Mean,
predicting what Houston's gonna do with Koree is very difficulty.
They could take anything, anything right. But then that played
(05:07):
into Carolina, you know, sitting there with Evan neo verse
quarterback too, I think that becomes an easy choice for
them to take the tackle. And then you know, harping
on the quarterback thing at eight with Atlanta and nine
with Seattle, I think that those two teams are extremely
quarterback needy and Willis Pickett whomever could end up at
(05:29):
eight or nine. But both those teams, to me, they
both traded, you know, potential Hall of Fame quarterbacks this offseason.
The status of their roster, I think it's built the
next time for next year's quarterback. I would not really
be in the quarterback market if I were Seattle in Atlanta,
I think those rosters are in bad shape right now. Yeah,
I'm I'm gonna agree with you again. I've got it
(05:51):
the same way I've got Atlanta taking Chris A Lava
from the High State Conversity Garrett Wilson's to me, they're
the same guy, I mean, another different player, but they're
both elite receivers. I happen to like a Lava a
little better just just because just from watching games over
the years. And I've got Seattle taken u e kuon
Kwan you from NC State and Charles Cross. I emphasize
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the edge rusher is pretty good as well. My number
one to Jacksonville as Trayvon Walker. I'm not sure it's
gonna be. It's still not gonna be a tackle because
Cam Robinson has only brought back theoretically for the short term. Uh,
And you can always draft your guy and play with
guard this year and then moving to tackle next year.
But I went Walker number one. I think he is
the most intriguing. I think he's the Malik Willis of
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edge rushers. Uh not that he played at a lower level,
but I want to look back five years from now
and see who's done the most and who's had the
higher upside. I'm not convinced it's not Trayvon Walker. And
I've also got Kenny Pickett going to Carolina at six.
I think Willis gets people thinking about quarterbacks. And I
think Matt Rule, you know, similar situation to atlant in Seattle.
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They got a guy, but is he the guy? Matt
Rule once had Kenny Pickett agree to come play for
him at Temple University, and uh it never worked out.
But there's a history with those guys. So, as I said,
I'm trying to shake it up a little bit and
see what this thing looks like that guys. The one
thing that that's gonna change. We still have a month
before the draft. Something's going to happen with a couple
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of these quarterback situations, one way or the other. I
do believe that like something the Browns will do something
with Baker Mayfield. Uh, you know, there's still a good chance.
There's still a good chance that something happens with Garoppolo
and that could shake up the quarterback market, as we've
seen already. And that's why we'll do a mock for
That's why we'll do him again and was many times
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as we have to get there's two there's two selections
you just mentioned there. I want to harp on a
little bit because I almost put Walker at one. If
you look at the the Jags GM going back to
his Niners days, he drafts no short armed guys. You know,
he wants Alden Smith and the only knock on Hutchinson's
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he's got short arms. You mentioned the rule picket connection. Well,
you happen to know where the Carolina Panthers owner went
to college. He's a pit guy. There you go. This
is a better and better we put our heads together,
we're talking about we get it figured out day. Let's
get back to you. Take me through eleven through twenty
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on your list. Uh, what what do you what do
you like about it? What did you throw at the wall?
You know, I James Jamison Williams to me is one
of the toughest guys to slot. He and Tyler linder
Bomb are the two guys that I look at and go, Okay,
they're both kind of first round talents, but the fit
has to be right. I slow, I slotted linder Bomb
right out of the first round. By the way, did
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you well, That's that's one way to do it. I had,
I had. I got Jamison Williams going to the Commanders
at eleven. Uh, and then I had linder Bomb going
to the Vikings at twelve. And I know the Vikings
have uh, you know, Garrett Bradbury as center. Um, they
can move him to guard. His contract is up after
this year, I believe, So there's there's things that you
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can do there. And you know, I think, you know,
you just look at the how he would fit in
that offense? Uh would work because he's just starting. He
doesn't fit in every offense. And you know, with Jamison Williams,
you're probably gonna have to wait a little while to
get him on the field. But man, when you get
him on the field, you probably have the best wide
receiver in this draft. So uh, you know, And then
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after that, it was the receiver started coming off the
board pretty quickly, Matt, just from your you know, scouting
background and scouting experience, guys such as the one day
I'll just mentioned Jamison Williams and um A Jabo And
if there's any other injuries out there, can that status
change between now and draft day or do they pretty
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much make their decisions. Hey, this guy is probably not ready,
so plan that way. Um Well, one thing I think
we need to stress is there is another gathering in
Indianapolis between now in the draft for just to select
few medical re checks. And I'm sure both those young
men will be there. And it's always good to get
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ahold of that list because when you you sit there
when we're broadcasting Live with Dale and everybody, and somebody's
there in the third round you thought was in the
first but oh he went to the medical recheck. Maybe
there's something more wrong with him than we thought, or
there was more concerning um that being said, though, like
a guy like Williams, to me, I might be more
a job Oh really, and I actually have a job
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o going at the end of the first round to
the Lions because of the fifth year option. If I
don't need him right away again, a job out the Lions.
They missed out on Hutchinson because it took Willis that
I want that fifth year option because if I have
to red shirt him and then only have three more,
then it's not that attractive to me. But if I
read shirt hum and I have four more when I'm
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apparently a better team, that's appealing to me. They couldn't
have stated it any better. I also think they fixed
knees now they do. Medicine's got a long way, Yeah,
especially for the especially for the lighter guys. I know
a lot of Steeler fans will look at that go, well,
you know Zack Banner, Well, he's a he's a heavier
guy that you're talking here about. Uh. And Matt and
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I've talked about this on the Drive, where offensive players
coming back off of something like that, they know where
they're running. They're not in a read and react kind
of situation, like they know where they're running, you would hope.
So they're supposed to know where they're running. So you know,
a guy like Jamison Williams, you know, can get back
on the field a little bit quicker, uh, you know,
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than than you know from an a C L with
a job bo. It's a it's an Achilles. Um. You
know we've seen guys come back from Achilles that same year. Um,
you know that seems to be a very common injury. Now,
I don't. I don't remember hearing that injury as much
twenty years ago, do you, Mike, I do not. But
now it's suddenly it's become a more prevalent in the
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in the football game. And you know, I guess it's
a quick twitch injury or a Mark Cabole injury. One
of the two. Yeah, let's let's go with the former. Uh.
To me, the fascinating part of the middle is Philadelphia
because the Eagles are picking a shifteen sixteen and nineteen.
I've got him going with the Carl Loftus from Perdue.
They love defensive lineman uh, and Philly particularly defensive ends. Uh.
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He's starting to move up, as we alluded to at
the start of the broadcast here today, I've got the
Eagles taking Jamison Williams at sixteen because I don't think
they'll be able to resist and you get that, uh,
Jalen Hurts Williams and the guy they took last year,
and uh, they're in pretty good shape. Roll tiede and
uh at nineteen. I went cornerback Matt You've got him
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taking uh, Devin Lloyd, so we're both thinking defense, but
different position there at pick nineteen. Yeah. I also went
receiver edge with London and Jermaine Johnson at fifteen sixteen
and then I went with them. So we're talking apples
and apples, just kind of different apples for I did
it backwards. I took Stingley first at them for fifteen,
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then London and then Devin Lloyd. Stingley. Stingley another guy
who maybe should be at that uh gathering in Indianapolis.
That his his He said he's gonna work out of
this pro day next week. L s u is next week. Again.
We'll see if that now happens because of what happened
to a Jobbo. But yeah, he's He's definitely a guy
that people are gonna want to have back to check
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on that foot. Another one, uh, one of my favorite
players in this draft, Jordan Davis, a defensive tackle from Georgia.
I've got him going to the Chargers because the Chargers
had problems stopping the run. Draft him, now you don't
have problems stopping the run. That's my theory. I think
this kid's special and uh, I think he's gonna be
an impact player sooner rather than later in the NFL.
They all started one note. I'm sorry because I would
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just want to bring this up about linder Bomb. I
had linder Bomb going fourteen to the Ravens, but only
because there was a run in my mock of Jordan
Davis and corners falling left and right. If linder Bomb
doesn't go to Baltimore, they kind of a whole enter
right now. He could fall aways, you know, to Dale's point. Yeah, yeah,
you had him drop it out. Yeah, see you tomorrow.
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Let's get Let's get to twenty and your Pittsburgh Steelers.
Dale take the floor, police, I got him take getting
them a leak. Willis in this scenario, Um, I just
think that some of those other quarterback spots are gonna
get taken. Um you know, I know they want him potentially,
uh you know, as a long term answer, Maybe that happens,
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maybe it doesn't. I think he would be tough to
pass on. And they're really the only guy that I
considered in that spot at twenty who was still available
in my draft was Trent McDuffie. Mike my cornerbacks fell
a little bit farther, and then there was I had
a run there in the mid twenties of of cornerbacks
that went McDuffie, Andrew Booth and then Kyler Gordon and
Cayer Elam all went in that bottom half of the
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first round. I mean, the quarters go and that's that's
you know, they typically go in the first round. So
it would be a tough choice for the Steelers. I think,
you know, between Malik Willis and a guy who I
think is really talented, like Trent McDuffie that they could
use as well. So that would be interesting. Matt. You've
got a going wide receiver, which is again there are
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I don't think that there are any wrong answers here. Uh,
there's just different interpretations of you know, priority of of
whole filling. And I'm a big fan of Williams. I'm
not too concerned about the injury thing. I take it,
Matt that you are not either. No, and a couple
of names that were thrown out there. Willis was gone,
Jordan Davis was gone, Trent McDuffie was gone, and Trevor
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Penning was gone. So not that this is a consolation prize,
but I think Williams, if he's clean, is probably the
best receiver in this draft. And I've been saying on
the drive, if you give me four and a half
years of Jamison Williams on a rookie contract, that's well worth. Yeah,
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it makes a lot of sense, particularly with the position
being in flow. I'm up with Devin Lloyd of Utah.
Now in my scenario, Malik Willis is long gone and
Jordan Davis UH goes to the Chargers as as I mentioned,
you know, run stuffing, Uh instant run stuffing there for
the l A Chargers. Those guys would be if I
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was doing the picking, I would rank them in that
order Willis, Davis and then Lloyd would be third. If
Lloyd for some reason wouldn't be there, than Matt I'd
be with you on that wide receiver train. There's a
lot of receivers you get in day two too, so
there's a lot of way there. And Matt will stick
with you as we round it out picks uh through
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number thirty two. What do you got that stands out?
One thing I think is now we're talking receivers. All
of a sudden, these playoff teams, like I don't think
they were happy. Then my mock that the Steelers took
a wide out because the Patriots are right behind them.
And then Green Bay's now got two picks, but they
don't have Davante Adams. Kansas City has two picks, but
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they don't have Tyreek Hill. So you know, I could
see some of these receivers going pretty high, and I
could see some of these playoff teams, maybe even Tennessee
not being super thrilled about it. In my draft though,
Kansas City ended up with Clark Carl loftus, I don't
know if he can last that long. And Dotson from
Penn State and the Packers ended up with a Lava
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who certainly could go earlier than twenty two. And I
also gave them Raymond the tackle from Central Michigan. Yeah,
I was, I had the same slot there. Dale. Uh
you mentioned, uh your run on corners gets well underway here,
and uh, I fund it. Interesting. You know, this is
the third time we've done this. For some reason, I've
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had John Dotson to the Chiefs and every every version
of it, even though that even though they're goalpost a
little bit, Uh, you've got the same thing. It just
looks like the Chief's receiver. To me, it has to be.
I mean, it just does. Because they've lost some guys
in free agency. You know, they traded Tyreek Hill. The
only real addition has been Juju Smith Schuster. They need speed.
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Johan Dotson would bring that and I think that makes
a lot of sense. And then you know, I had
him taking Dax Hill the safety out of Michigan at
thirty as well, um, because you know what's going on
with with Tyrara and math all on them. And even
if they even if they resigned matth Ou, I mean
they were starting. They were running Daniel Sorenson out there
a lot last year. They could certainly use an upgrade
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and he would give him a lot of options. And Matt,
I'm I'm with you on a job at thirty two.
You know, the Lions have five picks in the top
nineties seven and if they don't take Hutchinson up top,
which in my scenario they would have that opportunity, or
they might not. They gotta get the other Michigan Wolverine
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and uh, you know, throw a little bone to the fans.
And plus again, upside, this guy is in his infancy
in terms of development. He's got the physical skills, He's
obviously competitive enough. Uh he's a fast learner, and I
think there's a lot to like there. Uh So if
I'm if I'm Detroit, I'm gonna take him and again
pending the medicals. But uh, what's what's the early guess
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is he's ready for camp or the season right around,
you know, sometime in that frame, probably in September. Yeah,
And I looked at it this way, like, hey, hey,
Lions fans, no offense, but you're probably not winning the
Super Bowl this year. So if I only get four
years of his five year contract, I'm still really happy.
As opposed to taking him, you know, the second pick
in the second round, I want that fifth year option
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for the injured guys. Well, here's what I here's what
I did with the Lions guys. I had the Lions
taking Kenny Pickett at thirty two and then putting Jared
Goff up for trade. Oh, I'm just going right to
pick it, going right to pick it. They could get
something for Jared Goff right now. I believe they could
as well. That's an interesting scenario. I think that's possible. Hey,
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right now, anything is possible. That's the way it is.
It's April, baby, I'm gonna yeah. So of us had
two quarterback is going in the first round, correct, I
only had to Yeah, I had going in the first
I had Corral going to the Saints until the until
the Andy Dalton development, and uh, I took them off there.
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I had Willison to pick it at six and I
think that's it. I had picked it to the Saints
and that and that was before the Dalton news. So, uh,
it seems unlikely that they would add three new quarterbacks
this year. Well, they did move the other one to
a tight end, so that's true. That's gonna do it
for Mark three. Hope you got to kick out of that,
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because we're certainly having a lot of fun, uh, throwing
it back and forth and seeing where lands. I want
to remind everybody that you can access all of these
types of shows on all of the Steelers social media platforms.
We'll be doing it again real soon. Until then, thank
you for finding us this time, wherever and however you
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