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May 14, 2025 • 61 mins

🔥 In This Episode:
🏙️ Darren White vs. Tim Keller: The Fight for Albuquerque

Crime is out of control. Homelessness is worse than ever. And under Mayor Tim Keller, Albuquerque has seen a total collapse in public safety.
Darren White joins us to explain how he plans to restore order, rebuild neighborhoods, and bring real leadership back to the city.
Darren also lays out how to get on the ballot—including the need for over 3,000 petition signatures and grassroots donations.
👉 If you want change, it starts with YOU. Tune in to see how you can help Darren’s campaign today.
📉 Media Manipulation: Jake Tapper’s Biden Book Bombshell

CNN’s Jake Tapper is releasing a new book detailing President Biden’s decline—but there’s just one problem…
Tapper himself helped cover it up.
We break down the media hypocrisy and expose how Tapper and others kept the truth from the American people until it was too late.
🇺🇸 Trump Administration Gains Momentum

The Trump Administration is back on a roll—and we dive into the latest moves, momentum shifts, and political wins that are fueling the comeback.
From strong leadership to clear messaging, Trump’s strategy is resonating again—and Democrats are scrambling.

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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Okay, nice work, Ava.
This is the new intro, which isthe quick intro.
We're getting right into it.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, we're trying to capture more people's views
right off the top.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Don't bury the lead.
Right, Right, exactly.
Breaking news is really what?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
we need to have, we need a dun-dun-dun-dun, we need
a stinger.
Okay, we need a stinger.
I'll work on the stinger.
Breaking news yeah very good.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
We are here with Darren White on the no Doubt
About it podcast for a couple ofreasons.
First of all, you guys are kindof getting down to it in the
mayor's race, which you arerunning for mayor, and we're
going to talk about that too.
Last time you were on uh, a lotof interest in what you had to
say, and because we've had somedevelopments, because we're
getting down and we'll explainwhy you're reaching a critical
point here that we want to haveyou in talk about some stuff and

(00:53):
with you we always talk aboutother issues too.
So we're going to talk aboutall sorts of different things.
Let's do it, and some of it themayor's race and that's where
we'll start off, but of coursewe start with viewer mail yeah,
we have some viewer mail andthis this is coming in from dan.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Dan says I always learn something from your
podcast and this one is nodifferent.
I won't talk about all of it,but want to touch on two things
and make a request.
The plane being gifted to theus air force to act as air force
one was interesting.
I thought the plane was fullycompleted and ready for action,
but the show told a differentstory.
I agree with mark that it's abad move for Trump to accept it,
but then I think Trump doesthings like this just to get a

(01:26):
reaction.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
So yeah, no, true.
And, by the way, I still don'tthink.
I think, knowing now what weknow, there's no way he's going
to be able to accept it, andit's not even the acceptance
portion of it, it's the it's.
So by then Boeing willhopefully have one of them ready
.
So I would say this is going tobe much ado about nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
now, and it's classic Trump, though right, it's just
like Alcatraz.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
He throws these things out there and goes hey
guys, have fun.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Just have fun for a while, and so I see it as kind
of you know, at the end he'sgoing to say look the Republican
, we've talked and this is not agood move.
But uh, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
but thank you, cutter for cutter, yeah exactly and,
by the way, not to and wementioned this on the last show
you've got.
You got a country there thatsupports terrorism.
I mean, they do so and I knowTrump is there today.
He's actually going to be.
He's doing a state dinner, Ithink, right now with the royal
family there.
There are some real problemswith how they operate.

(02:26):
And, by the way, if you go askSaudi Arabia how they feel about
Qatar, it's not good, right?
Saudi Arabia is like these guysare absolutely funneling money
to terrorists, so it is a roughsituation there.
So I think it's one of thosethings where I understand he's
trying to play both ends againstthe middle and the Middle East,
trying to quiet things down,but but that is not the country

(02:47):
to be taking gifts like thatfrom.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
OK, so then he goes on.
Dan went on.
He said second, I'd like torequest that any time you talk
about John Fetterman, he wantsyou to wear a hoodie.
Yeah, no, I'm all I'm willingto do it OK, I'm out of respect
for Fetterman.
And then finally he said we'regoing to agree that APS does
spend too much money per studentand that the union is an
embarrassment to anyone who wasa teacher.
We're going to disagree thatcharter schools, vouchers and
school choice is the answer.

(03:09):
So that's kind of his commentthere.
And then we're going to move onto a different comment, ava.
We're going to move on to thenext one about school choice.
This is from Javier.
Javier says we had schoolchoice in Alaska and our kids
could homeschool with accreditedprograms, which was paid for.
When we came here and expectedto homeschool my youngest son
who does better with homeschoolversus in person and we found

(03:32):
out we had to pay for it on ourown, especially after I looked
at what our real estate taxes goto.
Why do we keep putting moneyinto a failing system?
the definition of insanity whichour property taxes continue,
yeah, and by the way.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's something we're going to touch on coming
up here in a subsequent show,because property taxes are
skyrocketing, especially onbusinesses, and you want to talk
about another way to crushbusiness?
Go double their property taxesin a year and some people are
having that happen to them.
So we'll get into that.
But but I agree, homeschoolingis turned into a choice A lot of
families have had to make.
It's one we had to make becauseyou have so many problems and

(04:08):
what's going on with our schoolsystem?
We're 51st in education.
We pump a tremendous amount ofmoney in there.
The answer is not always justadd more money, and that's
something that's not been talkedabout enough, the fact that we
spend a ton of money.
If you go look at how much wespend per pupil, we're not in
the bottom third of the countryat all.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
No, no, and of course the attendance is down, but the
budget is but the budget istypical yeah.
You know I got to tell youwhile I'm out there the mayor
doesn't have a lot to do witheducation, but people are
concerned about it, so theybring it up.
The one thing, more and more,is this splitting up APS.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh, right, people are very-.
Oh, it should be in three parts, probably, it's too big.
It's too big.
No, it's probably true, it'sone of the biggest school
districts, I think in thecountry?
Yeah, second or third in thecountry.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
It's kind of crazy.
Okay, and then Sagittarius saidthis is the last one that we
want to talk about today.
It said oh, okay for Trump toaccept this plane, really.
So what are they going to getin return?
What about conflict of interest?
This is outrageous, utterlyoutrageous.
Isn't it wrong for thePresident of the United States
to accept such a lavish gift?
I think this womanmisunderstood a clip from our

(05:12):
show, thinking that we were insupport of the Trump plane.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
We actually were saying Trump should not accept
this plane but the optics on itjust looked bad and it was not a
good call.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
So stop, stop so vigorously agreeing with us,
because that's exactly what wesaid.
She did, I think, actuallyright back and said I'm sorry, I
just think we I missed, Imisunderstood.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
So yeah, nothing against Martha, I totally get it
, martha, martha right.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
And then okay.
Sagittarius says hey, mark andChristie, what are your thoughts
for Duke Rodriguez potentiallythrowing his hat into the ring
for governor on the Republicanside?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
And is he a better or worse than an equal choice to
Greg Hall?
Okay, I'm going to let Darrenstart with this and give him a
little bit of his history andthen and then we'll we'll kind
of fire away at our thoughts.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, I've known Duke for a long time.
He was on the cabinet with meand governor Johnson's cabinet.
He also then had a medicalcannabis company.
Now he's in recreationalcannabis.
It's called ultra health.
It's the largest, uh, one ofthe largest in the in the state
and, um, you know, duke, issomebody like he's, he.
He comes from a uh, a healthbackground, right, and he's very

(06:14):
guy was very much so yeahhere's the thing you have to.
I mean, if the article is rightand look and I've known duke to
be somebody, when he sayssomething he usually does it he
said in the article talkingabout his announcement, that
he's going to put $2 million ofhis own money in, and that is
immediately a game changer.
Game changer, excuse me, if hedoes that.
Greg.
Greg Hall's a great guy.

(06:35):
I like Greg a lot.
Um, you know, there's talkabout John Sanchez.
These are all good people, butif Duke is going to to live up
to that pledge of $2 million,the, this has really changed the
outlook of the, of the, I wouldsay the outlook of the race,
yeah, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't know Duke, I don't think I may have met him
at some point, I don't recall.
Um, but a few things.
I think.
Number one, you're exactlyright.
If he'll put $2 million in andreally he's got to be talking
about putting 2 million in inthe primary, he's got to be
talking about putting $2 millionin the primary.
That's where he's going to haveto put it all in.
So then, if you do that, whatyou do at that point is you're
right, you do change things.
Now, really, what we're talkingabout here is Holland, probably

(07:11):
John Sanchez, I think.
First of all, duke doesn't have.
By judging by his publiccomments, he doesn't have the
kind of regard for John that youmight have expected.
So there could well be.
I don't think John's going tokeep Duke out of this race.
And you're exactly right, earlymoney in politics means
everything.
So if Duke will come out andlay that money down and start to

(07:33):
put things on the ground, orresources on the ground, he can
do it.
There's no doubt he can be aformidable candidate.
I don't love and it's funnysaying this with you sitting
here but I've told you this Ilove and it's funny saying this
with you sitting here, but I'vetold you this I don't love the
marijuana thing.
I don't.
I don't think it's.
I don't think it's productivefor the state.
I think it's not great.
However, he's, he's made hismoney doing this stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
He does have a health background, I think it makes it
more ironic and conflicting, inmy opinion whatever you know,
we have our thoughts on that,but but we'll be interesting to
see.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But you're right, though the money is huge,
because if you're, if you'reGreg Hall, your problem is in
all of this is if you get JohnSanchez in and you get Duke,
who's spending his own money in,I will tell you right now,
donors will look for any reasonto sit on the sidelines in a
primary right.
They will.
They're not opening theircheckbook to throw money at you.
Primary is very hard to raisemoney in and when you get into a

(08:21):
primary that's somewhat crowdedwith people that have some
money and you don't right away,that's a problem for you to get
going.
So I can see why Greg got inearly.
But if he's making, a real keything here is when you get the
October numbers that come in.
Greg has to have raised a lotof money or he's in trouble, and
it sounds weird to say morethan a year out.
But the problem will be thatonce everybody's in, the money

(08:43):
tightens up, it doesn't loosenup out.
But the problem will be thatonce everybody's in, the money
tightens up, it doesn't loosenup.
Yeah, and so that that's goingto be an issue in that, and
that's exactly what you say Dukeis very smart.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
This comes from a very big, big health background,
but also he's fiery.
Yeah, he is somebody that willspeak his mind and he will make
debates very, very interesting,coupled with that type of money,
who knows.
Yeah, I mean it's very, veryearly, but it looks like people
are lining up, since we're goingto have a vacancy.
That's good.
It's good for the party.
No, it is good.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's good for all of us.
Yeah, and I think, one otherthing with him that he mentioned
.
He said you know, mostRepublican candidates get 46% of
the vote and da, da, da.
No, they don't.
Okay, nella Domenici found thatout.
You don't start at 46.

Speaker 8 (09:25):
It turns out so you should have a month.
You have you know, I actuallywill have him on.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I will have everybody who is an interesting guy, yeah
, and everybody who assumes youend or you start where we ended.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You're wrong.
You don't start where we ended,so you start about 12 back and
then you see if you can make itup, and he may well be able to
do it.
It'll be really interesting.
So great question.
Yeah, okay, I can buy a lot ofname ID.
Yeah, it can, they can, right,and you're going to need to.
Well, I think you're going toneed to.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I've never heard of him so I honestly, like I are
saying this the drug, they, theycorrelate all of the all of it

(10:13):
together.
So you look at the DUIs thatare still out of control, which
I'm hoping you can help us talkabout that a little bit.
Um uh, mayor, white cause, I'mgoing to go ahead and refer to
you and you know, but we have aserious issue here with fentanyl
.
We have a drug crisis and thenyou couple it with somebody who
is very pro recreationalmarijuana.
I think that's a.

(10:34):
It's a conflict of interest fora lot of Republicans.
It's going to be interesting tosee how does he combat that in
a primary and how does he, youknow, reach across that, that
kind of domain.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, and it's one of those issues that once you get
to a general, it won't be aproblem at all for him.
Right, the general is not a bigdeal.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
It is the.
You know, and I don't eventhink it's a big deal, obviously
in the mayor's race because Ithink you have such a mixed
company in Bernalillo County.
Here you have people thatreally support the cannabis
businesses here in Albuquerquefor a mayor's race, so it's a
very different dynamic.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
It's also a non-partisan race, so it's a
little different now.
People know who the republicansand democrats are.
But all right, all right verygood, so let's get into this yes
, so we want to get to where youare in the campaign.
Uh, just put together a quicklittle graphic here now.
It's not the best lookinggraphic in the world, I'm not
gonna lie, mark's not a graphicsguy.
Yeah, I'm not really a graphicsguy, but, ava, we're gonna kind
of come in here, you're.
You're in the middle of tryingto get signatures and donations,
so let's go to the signaturerequirements for this.

(11:24):
This is unbelievable.
When you run, by the way, forgovernor of the state of New
Mexico, you need like 3,500signatures.
Yes, okay.
When you run for mayor ofAlbuquerque, you need 3,000
signatures.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Technically, you need 7,000.
So explain that.
Because you need 3,000 petitionsignatures, okay, yeah.
Because you need 3,000 petitionsignatures, okay, yeah.
And if you're going toparticipate in the public
financing, you need $3,785donations, yep.
And so if you, we're going toput it together, it's almost
7,000, right, unbelievable.
And so, yeah, it's a tough,it's a hard haul, there's no

(12:00):
question about it.
We're doing good.
We're over 1,000 on the $5donations, petition signatures,
over 1,000.
But look, make no mistake aboutit, this is what every one of
the candidates is doing rightnow and it's an interesting
breakdown.
We're almost a month into thisand I expected Mayor Keller and
I think again, this is just alittle bit of a kind of doing a

(12:23):
little quarterbacking here yeah,keller has done this three
times.
Yeah, I anticipated when hewent out he'd hit his list right
away and he would be $1,500,$2,000 within two, three weeks,
absolutely.
He just crossed over $1,000.
Interesting.
And so look, ubatis, he'sdigging into his numbers a

(12:45):
little bit.
He's affecting his ability toget the $5 donations.
Keller's going to get it.
I don't think there's anyquestion about it.
I don't know about.
You bought his.
He started off really well, uh,and then last week he only got
20.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.
So just one quick thing on himand we'll get to him in a second
Cause.
I want to talk about him alittle bit because people don't
know him.
Former federal prosecutorjumped in the race Democrat and
going to kind of get into theKeller and his little lane there
.
But just a couple other quickthings here.
You've got to have this done byJune 21st.
June 21st, Like this, is comingup.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, this is a real heavy haul man, I'm telling you,
and this is all we focus on.
I mean, it's just what thecampaign is all about.
If you don't get to that publicfinancing, it becomes very,
very tough.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Explain the public financing, how it works and what
it does for you.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
So we're raising right now.
It's called seed money.
The seed money is being used toget the $5 donations we are
doing, we're doing emails, we'redoing some text messages.
We did a small mail piece toget people to go on digitally
and do the $5.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Which we did, by the way.
I thought that was actually agreat way of getting people's
attention.
You have a QR code, people canscan it and they can sign your
and what's great?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
about it is those are verified.
Once you go into that system,it automatically recognizes that
you're a registered voter andthen it lets you pay the $5.
And that's already countedVersus the books, the old books
where you had to walk around andpeople had to fill out the
books.
Look, we submitted about 60 ofthe the hard copies.

(14:19):
22 of them were rejected.
Keller submitted a couple ofhundred.
60 were rejected.
And so that's what you dealwith with the digital QR code.
It's, it's done and it's overwith.
And so that's why we've beenwith the digital QR code.
It's, it's done, yeah, and it'sover with.
And so that's why we've beenfocusing on it.
We're on Keller's heels and butit's not easy and but we're
confident we can get there andit'll kind of thin the field out
.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh, there's no question, hold on.
I know there are nine people inthis race.
No, there aren't.
There are probably going to bethree, would be my guess,
because it's so difficult,potentially four with Louie.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
He's way behind.
Yeah, I think he's beensurprised how difficult this is
to do.
So there's again.
There's only so many voters,right, and the Democrats are
cutting that pie up yeah.
And so maybe Louie.
It'll depend on where he is, Ithink this week.
If he's still below a thousand,it's going to be tough for him
to get there.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, what?
Just tactically for a second.
How many people do you want inthis race?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Uh, as many Democrats as I can get, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right, right, no, that makes sense.
So you're, you're out helpingthem.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Once you get to your numbers.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
You should be.
I'm all for it.
I'm all for them, because thatis democracy in action.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Because you care, right, I do, I care, but you
know, it's as I've said from thebeginning our goal is to come
in first or second.
Yep, because then there's therunoff, yep.
And so everything we're doing,get the public financing and
then coming in first or second.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Explain really quickly.
We kind of cut you off.
Public financing means what?
So for the average?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
so it's like $730,000 that they give you, minus what
you raise in seed money.
Okay, and that's what you getto run your campaign.
Uh, then there's also what theycall measure finance committees
.
Those are separate from us.
Uh, those are groups that canset up, but they have to support
a candidate and we're notinvolved in that.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
right, that's like a pack and it is a pack right so
so, and what that means is, andwhat darren's talking about is,
when you set up a pack, they canraise unlimited funds into that
, but they can't coordinate withyou, right, right, yeah.
So so they can say they canknow hey, we want to support
darren and this.
And this is trickier thanpeople think, because oftentimes
these PACs will go throw up anad and you at the campaign will

(16:27):
be like what?
The hell was that, and then.
so you've got to be reallycareful because everybody thinks
, oh, the PAC will just dowhatever the campaign wants.
There is not real contact thereif you're doing it legally and
I got to- tell you, Mark, Idon't think the public should.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
The taxpayer dollars should be spent on knuckleheads
like me, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I agree To campaign.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Come on Really Right.
And then the whole thing wasyou know, clean campaigns, right
, oh, but we still have PACs,right, and it's like and believe
me, I believe it's like peoplehave a First Amendment right to
have these campaigns.
I mean, we all understand howthat works.
But you know, look, keller willhave one, absolutely.
And as, while he was like, oh,we're all for clean campaigns
and we hate those groups, he'llhave one, you bought his, we'll

(17:09):
have one.
Uh, uh mailing, uh, our mealalready has one, right, and so
it's just the reality.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, sure, and so we need that money.
Though that you need that money, I think there's always that
question is what you need thatmoney for.
Darren, you're not taking thesalary from that money, correct?

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I should, though I mean no, of course not.
What you do is you, you, youknow you're.
The majority.
Of it is going to be on the ads.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's just, it's all messaging.
It's getting people yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Get it campaign staff .
You know that whole.
Thing.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
But with that type of money, though you being that
you've done this before you know, that doesn't go a long way.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
That's what I'm saying that's why they rely on
these measure finance committees, because they realize it's not
a ton of money to get yourmessage out, and so um, yeah,
but that that's where we are.
As I said, I'm grateful we'rein second place.
We're working really hard.
We'll come back again this weekand hopefully you know, as I
said, I know we're over athousand and you know we have a

(18:10):
lot of work to do in the nextmonth.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Okay.
So, Darren, if people want togo to your website, can they
sign up for your financing thereor not?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
We'll put a link in the show notes to go directly to
the sign up to the signup.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yes, there's a.
There's a link right for mysite where you can go right to
Darren White and do the $5.
It verifies your address.
You pay the five bucks or theycan go to Darren white from
aircom.
We have a link on it as well.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, please do, please do this to, to, to get
Darren the numbers he needs toget on the ballot.
This is an unbelievably highbar.
It really is.
And again, the way, the way itgoes then.
So, so 700 and some oddthousand dollars will come in
from public financing, and thenthere are packs that'll jump in
for all the candidates that willalso pour money in.
So that's the way the moneyflows in a mayor's race.

(18:52):
So let me ask you like.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I have two Republican opponents and they're very nice
people and this is notdisparaging them, but the, the,
the.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
they haven't even reached a hundred Right they
haven't even reached a hundredRight, so use your time to
support people.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
It's going to be impossible for them to get there
at this point, Right, andthat's not saying they're going
to drop out, because they theystill have to get the petition
signatures.
If they get the petitionsignatures the 3000, they could
possibly get on the ballot.
But this really comes down tothe public finance.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, right, right.
Cause then if you don't havethat public financing, you don't
have the money to be able torun any sort of campaign where
anybody knows who you are, whatyou stand for, and that's the
bummer part of politics now thatif?
You don't have money, you don'thave a voice in a lot of cases.
Yeah Right, Um, okay, Ava, Iwant to go to clip 16, cause I
want to touch on you.
Bias for a second.

(19:38):
He's the other, um, kind ofmain name, uh, kind of pulling
from Keller, and so I kind ofwatched and looked at his
journal article when heannounced.
I thought it was interesting.
Here's what it looked like.
Here's what the journal articlelooked like here.
I want to read a couple ofquotes here.
First of all, he had a quote Ithink he was referring to you
and Keller.
He said he's got one.
He's running against one personwho's wrong and one person who

(20:01):
basically can't do the job.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
And did you read that I think I'm Mr Wrong.
Yeah, I agree, You're Mr Wrong,Just so you know.
Again, I don't he possiblycould be referring but I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Whatever, welcome to the party, no question.
But I did.
I found a couple of his quotesinteresting.
Here's the first one here, andhe says this he said we've
really become a disconnectedfrom one another and the
pressures of just living havedriven us to hate each other,
not to see each other as humans.
We can change all this.
There are proven strategies.
Okay, I read that and kind ofwent, oh okay, okay maybe.
And then he followed, he washedit down with this comment which

(20:40):
I really then went oh okay, Ithink I see what we're dealing
with here.
He says I think there arepoliticians who profit off of
the idea that we are divided.
It's either all this or allthat.
It's sweep the streets andincarcerate everyone, or it's no
one should be punished andeveryone gets handouts.
This is not true.
They're all lying to us.

(21:01):
There are common sensesolutions.
They're all lying to us.
There are common sensesolutions.
Ok, that is right.
Out of an ignorant rookiepolitical team that that just
hands this guy lines which don'tconnect and first of all,
they're over the top, overlysimplistic and not true.
And then he just kind of saysthis stuff and I listened to him
.
I thought I expected more fromthis guy.

(21:21):
But when I listen to that kindof reflexive political platter I
it just kind of makes me thinkokay, I'm not sure you're a
serious candidate, to be honestwith you.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, well, he also responded to KOAT's
questionnaire regardingsanctuary cities.
Right, and are we immigrantfriends?
And it was literally like aprosecutor writing an affidavit
for a complaint.
It was very I didn't quiteunderstand what he was trying to
say.
And matter of fact the KOATsaid he didn't answer the
question?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, of course not, because, remember, he's running
on the left side of the aislewhere, where, if he, if he takes
a law and order stance, he'sout, he's in trouble, actually,
right.
So I just kind of listened tohim and went.
I kind of thought this guywould be a little more
interesting than this, and I wassurprised he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, I mean, I just think to me this sounds like I
don't even know if he actuallywrote that comment.
It feels like a disconnect inthe fact that there's no talk of
actual what's wrong withAlbuquerque, which we all know.
It's crime, everybody knowsit's crime, every single person
that lives here feels it, seesit, knows it.
Homelessness is our secondmajor issue.
There's zero talk about, I mean, him saying why can't you just

(22:30):
say that?
I know.
And the fact that he's saying,oh, it's either all everything
or all nothing, and I'm likenobody's saying that.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I haven't heard that been said by anybody, not even
Keller would say that, andyou're surely not saying sweep
everybody up and throw everyonein jail.
Give me a break.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
I have said we have a significant problem when it
comes to the homeless.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
And we should be in a situation Look, we spent
millions of dollars on theGateway Center, on programs for
the homeless.
They're there and all I've saidis you offer these services,
yes.
You say, look, you cannot liveon our streets, right?
It's illegal, right?
And so we're offering you allof these services.
If you refuse these services,then we will take law

(23:14):
enforcement action.
If you continue to do all thenasty things you do on our
streets Because I love theseDemocrats they all throw around.
They say equity, equity, equity, equity.
What is equity?
Equity's the root.
What is the equity is fairness.
Right, it's fairness.
What about the people that livein that, on that corridor,
these families that have toendure this disgusting

(23:36):
environment?
You know, I watched there'sanother one of those.
Another influencers came to townand he talked to you know,
folks in the war zone, and onelady said living behind this,
just some complete compound.
And she said you know, theother day we left and there were
homeless people with my kidsand there were homeless people
having sex in the street.
And where are you, tim?

(23:56):
Why aren't you addressing that?
You know, you had a homelessguy literally saying yeah, it's
disgusting because they're goingthe bathroom out here all the
time A homeless person wassaying that.
And so where is the fairnesswith those businesses that have
to operate?
I got to tell you, mark, realquick.
I went down to First and I-40again where I did my video, and

(24:18):
Keller's cleaning them out everyday.
But they're moving up toProspect and First Street and on
that corner there is a littlelawnmower repair shop.
It's been there forever, lovelypeople that run it.
I walked in and said becausewhat happens is in the morning
they move them up to Prospectbecause there's a church or
something that's giving themfood and different things.

(24:39):
And I mean that stretch betweenFirst and Second Street is
packed with homeless.
So I went in and said how doyou do this?
And he goes we don't.
And then he went on to tell me.
He said look, he had somelawnmowers out there that he
fixes and sells.
He said they were tried tosteal my lawnmower and I saw
them and I ran out there andgrabbed it.
He goes.
I got stabbed three times inthe chest.

(25:00):
Oh my God.
And I looked at him.
I said what he's like.
Yeah, I said have you told this?
He goes?
Oh, tim Teller came here for aphoto op and I told him I got
stabbed.
And yet there they are.
And while we were talking, wewent outside and we watched
somebody staring at us.
And I mean Mark.
This guy was 50 feet away fromthe entrance to the door and he

(25:20):
was watching us and we watchedas he took a syringe out of his
sock and started shooting up.
How do you again?
Where is the fairness?
This man pays his taxes.
He's just trying to.
He's trying to provide for hisfamily.
It's got a small littlebusiness and he can't even pull
it off because, yeah, it wasgreat little photo op.
But where are you, tim Keller?

(25:40):
Tell us you love Albuquerque,but you're going to let this man
have to endure this.
It's not fair and I'll tell youthe day I get elected, it will
stop.
They will either take theservices at the gateway center
or they will go to jail.
I'm sorry, enough is enough.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, I saw you there .
I saw a comment you made onTwitter where somebody had said
you know what is your game plan?
What laws will you pass?
And I thought you know.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
you said listen, I don't need to pass any laws,
we'll just, you know, enforcethe ones we actually have on the
books.
Right now, it has been illegalto sleep on the streets, the
sidewalks and the parks foreveras long as I've been here 38
years, and so it's not.
You're right, chrissy, it's notabout new laws, it's about
enforcing the ones we have.
And really what it comes downto is you know, again, this

(26:24):
guy's out there shooting upheroin.
They're smoking fentanyl andlook, handcuffs need to be on
the bad guys, not the policeofficers trying to do their jobs
out there.
Let let them do their job andthey'll clean it up, but they're
told to leave them alone, andthat's why we have the problem.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
And I have to say we are seeing like tent, like
cities starting to formulateover here, on Paseo right.
So in the Northeast Heightsarea we're seeing them spread
out more and more.
It is not just downtown whichit's not.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
There is not a community in Albuquerque that's
immune.
I walk on tramway just aboutevery day and I see the tents in
all the drainage ditches, um,and in fact I I've had to stop
uh to help uh somebody severaltimes that was wrapped up in a
sleeping bag that, look, Icouldn't just pass.
I'm like God, what am I doing?
I'm shaking the guy.

(27:16):
Dude, are you alive?
You know.
And then I didn't feelcomfortable because it wasn't a
response.
And you know, you open up thesleeping bag and there's the
fentanyl pipe and it's like comeon, seriously, man.
But no, kirstie, you'reabsolutely right.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's not just a central corridor, it's not first
in I-40, it's not first in I-40, it's everywhere, and it's
because we're not doing anythingabout it.
Well, and we've created anenvironment where we have also
acted as a magnet in this city,because there is a reputation
for Albuquerque as a city where,if you are homeless and you're
not from here and most of thesehomeless people are not from
here they end up coming herebecause they can be left alone
to do what they want on thestreet.
So that's why, when you seesomeone like you by, I say these
things that are so trivial andreflexive and and just so

(28:01):
nakedly pathetic to me.
I mean, you just look at,address the real issues here,
talk about what's going on,instead of trying to play these
stupid little political gameswhere you say, well, this side
says this and this side saysthis, and I'm the guy in the
middle who?
No, how about?
Where you say, well, this sidesays this and this side says
this, and I'm the guy in themiddle, no, how about you just
offer some solutions?
So I thought it was interesting.
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Look, if you go in there and disrupt what they're
doing, they'll find another cityto welcome them and they'll
pack up and they'll finallyleave.
That's right, and we'll cleanup our city and they don't want
to.
If you don't want help.
And the others on the left andunfortunately Luis Sanchez, who
voted for the sanctuary, said tokeep it in place Look, it's not

(28:43):
controversial to say if you'rein this country illegally and
you commit a crime, we're goingto send you back to where you
came from.
It's probably a 75-25 issue inour country and, look, we've got
enough of our own criminals.
We don't need to bring any morein.
And when they do, we just sendthem back.
And you hear all this.
Oh my God.
What about the victims?

(29:03):
I'm not talking about victimshere.
We're not going to ask victimsof domestic violence.
Are you?
You know you're illegally.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Look, I can also tell you that many of these crimes
that are being committed byillegal immigrants are against
families who are their ownpeople.
Absolutely no, it's such anexcuse and running interference
and keller does it all the timewell, less people will report
crime.
It's absolute garbage andthere's no, there's no actual
information or data to back thatup.
All right, we want to getthrough some things.
We got a bunch of issues here.
We need to start firing throughthese right, but I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Can I talk about this ?
This um apd tweet that I put inhere this morning?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Okay, because I thought Darren could.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, I was going to go back up to nine, and then we
can go down to it.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Okay, mine are not numbered, so you do whatever you
want.
Oh, they're not numbered.
No, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
No, how did you not get numbered?
I have a different article andthe journal never fails to
regularly put together articles,uh, that are basically right
out of tim keller's campaignhandbook.
Uh and uh, matthew ryzen doingthis one, no surprise, oh my god
, momentous occasion albuquerque, mayor, police chief, c finish
line in reform effort.
That's because the, basicallythe, the federal, the casa is is

(30:11):
going to be pulled back.
Now I wanted to see if you hadany thoughts on that for the
feds are finally leaving.
after what do we have here 11years?
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Take it with a grain of salt.
Matt has literally gone on toTwitter to complain about me
citing facts about crime inAlbuquerque, almost as if he
works for the.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Keller no, you read his stuff, it is without
question.
He just basically turns out apress release for him.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
He has considered himself to be the expert on
journalism.

Speaker 9 (30:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh I know it's unreal no-transcript.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
When I was on and most of us were on, we had a
chief for deputy sheeps andabout 10 or 11 captains, and so
you're looking at about 16, 17people.
He said in city council lastweek that there are over 50 in
the executive staff and heblamed the DOJ.
I'm sorry, I don't think theDOJ told you how many people you
have to have in in your kingdom, right, and so that is then.

(31:26):
They're not going to talk aboutthat and so, um, yeah, I'm, I'm
grateful that it's it's gone.
It should have been gone yearsago, right, um and ago.
But what has happened because ofit will take years to clean up.
And look, we don't want ourofficers to be heavy handed, we
don't want them to violatepeople's civil rights, but what

(31:48):
this has done is you have policeofficers who now have this
culture of doing nothing becausethey don't want to get in
trouble.
It's not even about getting introuble, it's the appearance,
because even if they aresuspected of oh my God, what did
you do they are subjected toinvestigation after
investigation, afterinvestigation.
And so if you want to know whythe officers, you don't see

(32:11):
people, police officers stoppingpeople for traffic violations
Never, why should I have thisencounter.
What if they complain about me?
You know, do I have to hire alawyer?
And so we've got to change theculture of the police department
.
Post DOJ.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And one thing, one culture they have changed is boy
, the PR department is workingovertime.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Well, there's like 10 of them, oh.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm sure.
Okay, so let's go on to thisarticle.
It says Matthew Risen saysKeller Medina emphasized that
while this may be the end of theconsent decree, the reforms
will continue.
We always have to keepimproving.
We always have to keep pushingfor trust and for safety and for
progress.
And I know that APD is a verydifferent department, keller
says Does it have zero issues?
Of course not.

(32:51):
Will there be use of force thatare questionable, that are
wrong?
That inevitably will happen.
Will there be bad actors in thepolice department?
That will also happen.
We will officially hold folksaccountable for violations, big
and small.
That is the process in thesystems that we have built.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
And so my problem with articles like this are,
instead of then pivoting back tosay crime has been out of
control under the Kelleradministration because of how
they've dealt with things andstart to give some context to
this, it just continually isthis, this backup, and let them,
let them roll into whatever PRspin they want to take.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
What's wrong with saying ninety, nine point five
percent of all the officers areout there doing a damn good job
every day.
They work under unthinkableconditions and they're doing a
great job.
Yes, we will have a bad apple,but why not talk about the cops
that are out there doing the jobevery day and, most importantly
, with the restrictions thatKeller has put?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
on them.
But I agree, but at the sametime, when you don't give a nod
to the fact that you have one ofthe most violent cities in the
world here.
You just talk about thingsgetting better and then you send
out a tweet like you're aboutto talk about Send out a tweet
like you're about to talk about.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
So this tweet was this morning.
This is from the APD.
Apd has seen a 47% drop in autothefts this year compared to
last.
This reduction is due to acombination of hard work, smart
strategies, including education,bait, car program, grappler
technology, license platereaders.
Top 25 auto theft offender.
Now, I think this isinteresting because number one,

(34:14):
we actually had a car stolenyesterday from our church
parking lot, but then, on sideof that, I looked this up and
said these are some of thecomments that came in.
That's nice, I hope you canfind my car that was stolen
today, which is like a familywoman with small kids.
Then this other guy says I'mpositive the UNM employee that
had two trucks stolen in oneweek would disagree with you.
And then, finally, this guysays there's no way people
believe this 20th most dangerouscity on the planet.

(34:35):
I'm sure the officers are doinga great job.
It's the leadership that is theproblem.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Amen.
And so here's the problem thatyou remember we talked about
this they a few years ago wewere having so many homicides,
they decided to redo the mathRight, and so they implemented
their new way of countinghomicides so that it made them
look better.
Unfortunately for them, the FBIactually keeps track of the
real numbers, so we know whatthey are.
The problem with that is it'sthose responses that you see.

(35:02):
They know that they did thatand they question everything
that comes out of theAlbuquerque Police Department
and Gilbert Gallegos' mouth,gilbert Gallagos his mouth.

(35:27):
And that's why I've said look,one of the things that I will do
is I will find a chief, a chiefof police who's a very strong
leader and inspirational, thatnot only the public can look up
to but the rank and file as well, and I think that's severely
missing right now.
And this lack of confidencethat the public has you see it
in these responses Just bewhat's wrong with being honest.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
No, no, it's because it is so anathema to the
experience that every one of ushave.
You can sit here and haveGilbert Gallego stand up or
Medina or Keller stand up andsay things are better.
Things are better.
No, they're not.
Everyone feels it.
So to be gaslit by anadministration like this is
absolutely infuriating.
Because it's an election year,usually he doesn't even bother

(35:56):
to gaslight you, he just doesn't.
Just doesn't address it.
Doesn't address it.
But now he's like oh, it's anelection year, time to gaslight.
I mean, that's the problem withall of this, and my problem
with him is just the fact thatyou have no pushback from media
that says wait a minute, thisstuff is not translating into
people's daily lives.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Right, and Can I ask what's your thoughts on this
whole national guard coming inLike what I understand, that
they're basically trying to dotraffic and things of that
nature to help officers go outand do other things.
What's your thinking on that?

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Well it's, they've militarized the war zone.
I mean, that's what happened,right, we've called it the war
zone forever.
Now we've militarized it.
Look, I think it's in.
If you were going, if you'rebringing in the national guard,
let them be in their uniforms.
These are service members.
You know we're going to putthem in polos, because that's

(36:43):
what we want.
We want polo shirts.
Um, look, if they can offerassistance in different areas,
that's fine.
I would.
If I were bringing them intotown, I wouldn't be so worried
about their appearance.
And you know we're not going tolet them drive in police in
military vehicles.
I don't know what they're goingto ride around, but just like
if we had a national disasterand we were worried about
looting.
The law is very clear.
The national guard cannot andit's called, you cannot have the

(37:07):
military enforcing cityordinances or state ordinances
or law enforcement, but you canbring them in, like if there was
a natural disaster, and havethem patrolling those areas,
having them have a radio, apolice radio, and say, hey, unit
that you're assigned to I seesome guys over here and they're
up to no good it looks likethey're using fentanyl and have

(37:27):
the police come in and respond.
You use them as more eyes andears in these highly
concentrated areas, and and nowit's a force multiplier, but now
they're going to, oh, they'regoing to, they're going to block
traffic when we have a, when wehave a scene, and it's like
this is a but this is also apolitical fight

Speaker 2 (37:48):
between the governor and the mayor.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I mean, well, you've heard, you've heard Medina say
that, oh, he was blindsided bythe announcement.
I didn't even have time toprepare for the announcement.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, because she's furious, because she's taking it
to you.
This is how politics works,making you look incompetent, by
the way.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Oh and by the way we're going to also recruit this
guy, Alex Ubatas.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, exactly, I know we have a bet on the show that
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
She did this all to support you, bias.
No, no, that's not the bet.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
That is the bet no, the bet no.
I agree with you on that.
The bet is you said she wasgoing to come out and publicly
endorse yeah, I said she's not.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
She's not going to publicly endorse.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
No way no way.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
No, I don't think she'll publicly endorse.
But I see, think you'll seepeople surrounding her where
there's no surrounding.
You bought us, there'll be noquestion.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, exactly Exactly .
Don't try to turn this you justtried to turn it.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
No, I think she'll publicly endorse the guy.
I'm sorry.
I know that, but you just triedto turn it it may be after the
primary, but I think that she'llabsolutely wrap her arms around
this guy she's not going toendorse.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, all right, let's get to, uh, let's get some
national stuff the weatherman.
So.
So trump, uh, the trump numbers.
We want to go into some ofthese trump numbers.
Latest rasmussen numbers righttrack, wrong track numbers are
actually the best they have beenover a prolonged period in
years 49 right track, 46 wrongtrack.
Okay, and then, as you'velooked at a series of events
here, trump actually has had apretty good past week here, and

(39:20):
so we want to listen to ScottJennings talking about what he's
doing right now, and then we'llstart to get through a few of
these points.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
The EO with Pharma Eden Alexander UK on ag UK deal.
Last week Zelensky and Putinmeeting the president in
deal-making mode headed to theMiddle East this week.
They have momentum here for alot of things.
Some of it's trade-related,Some of it's just more peace in
the world related and some of itis just momentum of strong
leadership related.
So I think they're on a littlebit of a roll and the China

(39:52):
piece is obviously huge for themarkets but there's more going
on, I think, with theadministration than just them.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
OK, and just one other quick thing To pair with
that.
The latest inflation numbersare out, and regrettably well,
Wolf Blitzer just has to admitthat we are not seeing the kind
of inflation numbers that we'veseen before.
They're going down.

Speaker 9 (40:14):
US inflation is showing a slowing, I should say,
to its lowest rate in more thanfour years.
That according to April'sConsumer Price Index report.
It's an unexpected and verywelcome development that's
defying economists' expectationsamid President Trump's ongoing
trade war.
Let's go live right now to CNNBusiness and Politics
correspondent, vanessa Yurkovich, who's watching all of this in

(40:36):
New York.
Vanessa, walk us through thismorning's report.
Where do things stand?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Encouraging signs Wolf Inflation continuing to
move in the right direction,cooling on an annual basis to
2.3 percent.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Okay, see Wolf's face , it's just yeah go ahead.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
What do we got?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I was told I was told that all the tariffs would lead
to an absolute, you know spikein inflation, and that hasn't
happened.
So, interesting started to seesome movement here and and I, I,
I, you know, look, this, thisround of the trump
administration is more chaoticthan the first right.
So you have some stuff whereyou go have liberation day, you
announce all these tariffs.

(41:15):
It turns out to be a problemfor the market temporarily, and
then it ends up backing you know.
He ends up, you know, kind ofstarting to negotiate these
things out.
This is political theater thatmatters for your race too.
Actually it really does, sure.
So what are your thoughts onwhere we are right now?
First, let me just say to myboy, scott Jennings.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
You know that Scott and I worked together on the
Bush campaign 20 years ago andI'm really glad to see how well
he's doing.
He has a book coming out herepretty quickly, and so tip of
the hat to Scott.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Jennings Tremendous.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Look then, conversely , look at the Democrats' numbers
it's just historic lows.
They're rudderless.
They don't know what issues toattack and not to attack.
Look, trump has got goodnumbers because when you do the
things that you said you weregoing to do, people are going to
go oh, okay, that's that.
Look, that's the.

(42:05):
The Democrats decided to takethese 80, 20 issues and run on
them, and it worked on the 20,on the 20,.
They ran on the 20 and theywent.

Speaker 9 (42:13):
An interesting tactic and at the end they were like
yeah that just didn't work outreally well, but yet the problem
is, they're still doing itright and they still just can't.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
They hate trump so much.
And look, I've been critical oftrump, yes, I have been.
There's things that he doessometimes that make me crazy and
you go, but I also get part ofthe crazy, like we were talking
about.
Like I'm going to turn Alcatrazinto a prison, yeah Right, and
it's like you're like what?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You're going to do what?
Canada is going to be the 51ststate.
I like Greenland and we'retaking over Greenland.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
And I would like to be the Pope.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
He trolls a lot and it makes the Democrat,
especially the libs on TV, makestheir heads pop, yeah.
But here let me say this Peopleare saying why is he doing so
many things in such a shortperiod?
He only has four years.
He has two years.
Really.
It's a very good point.
Yeah, two years.
Yeah, he knows that there is ashelf life to this.

(43:09):
Yeah, and he has to get as muchdone as possible and make the
libs nuts, as Jennings would say.
And but yeah, I think you'reseeing people going.
Look, they're so used to peopledoing nothing that they're
they're going.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Well, I don't agree with all this stuff, but the
guy's doing some right and we'regoing to get into the Biden
stuff because that's going to behuge.
We're going to do that in justa second here, but there's some
more on this one.
So a couple other little thingsthat especially Kevin O'Leary.
We've got some clips from him.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Well, he's talking specifically this one time.
This is all this China tradedeal, because I think you know.
Obviously this is the benchmarkfor these tariffs, right?
Is what's going to happen withChina?
So stick a listen to him.
He was on CNN.
He's talking about what's thelatest with the Chinese tariffs.
First, mr Kevin O'Leary,because I remember when you said
, hey, let's put these tariffsup to 400 percent.

(43:57):
China needs to be punished here.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Do you feel disappointed by seeing these
lower the way they were?
Because Donald Trump did?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
pull back.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
Not at all.
I wanted an embargo.
I wanted to shut China tradedown until they came to the
table.
They are at the table in Geneva.
Could have been Riyadh, it wasGeneva, that's fine.
But it's not just tariffs,because I'll tell you where I
think we're going.
I'm looking at this saying allright, it's a 10 and 10
reciprocal right now, with a 20percent bump on the whole

(44:26):
fentanyl thing.
That could come off any timewhen the Chinese stop shipping
fentanyl here, and they knowthat and they're working on that
.
But it's not just the tariffs.
Where are we on WTO grievances?
Remember they joined in 2000.
They've been abusing that ruleforever.
I'm an investor, I love China, Iwant to do business there, but
I want a level playing field.
That means I need IP protection, access to their courts to

(44:49):
settle grievances, and I want toshut them down here, raising
capital if they won't bide bygap rules on the NASDAQ and New
York Stock Exchange and, fromwhat I understand out of Geneva,
this is all rumors andinnuendos.
All of those are on the table.
So Besset's doing a hell of agood job here.
I give him 100 out of 100, butwe're not finished yet.

(45:10):
And, by the way, if you wantthe index of the market.
We have recovered everythingsince April 3rd and then some.
So listen, keep going.
But China is a specialsituation.
When we get that deal done,it'll become the hallmark for
all the other countries, and Ithink where we're going is a 10
and 10 reciprocal on everybody.

(45:31):
Call it a VAT tax.
That's really what's going onhere, consumption tax in America
.
But you can't sell that toCongress, so you'd call it a
tariff?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Okay, interesting stuff.
I think that the number one,the market recovering it's
absolutely recovered.
Anybody who goes and looks attheir 401k can see that the
pearl clutching over a few weeksof a down market, that is gone.
Interesting stuff, becausethere is a lot of stuff here.
It's not just tariff, it is IPprotection.
That's the kind of thing thatChina has been ripping us off

(46:01):
for for decades and continues tocontinue to.
I mean, go to Amazon.
Go to Amazon and go find a pairof Apple headphones that are
not really Apple headphones.
They just come in and rip themoff.
I mean it's absolutelyunbelievable.
So just one other thing fromKevin O'Leary on this thing, and
I thought it was interesting.
He talked about the jet and wewon't get back into the jet, but
I do want to get into what isthis Middle East trip really

(46:22):
about?
He's out there right now andthis is something interesting
that I had not heard or had notthought of.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
So just listen to this Trump he wants to round it
up to a trillion dollars worthof deals and investments in the
United States.
Where do you think that money'sgoing?
Most of it's AI.
This trip is about two thingsChina and AI.
What people don't realize?
That region is one of thefastest growing on Earth.
I'm talking about the circle offriendship here Saudi Arabia,
qatar, united Arab Emirates.

(46:49):
Who's number three in AIdevelopment right now?
Us.
China's number two, numberthree UAE.
So that's why all those AI guysare there.
They are so advanced.
I just got back there two daysago from there, from Abu Dhabi
and Dubai, I saw for the firsttime ever a real estate
development completely AI-driven.
We have nothing like it here.
You talk about a smart home.

(47:09):
They're way past that themedical AI technology they have
over there.
I got a procedure there wedon't offer here FDA doesn't
allow it called IBU, where myblood was filtered and then
oxygenated, then ozonated andthen injected with 50 billion
exosomes.
I walked out of there like ateenager.
I feel like a million bucksright now.
I said can I do this again nextweek?

(47:30):
They said no, you've got towait four more months.
They are so advanced.
By getting this whole thingworked out with these countries.
We need to align with thembecause they want to be in the
circle of friendship on all ofthese metrics, whether it's
going to be AI, whether it'sgoing to be real estate, whether
it's going to be development,and we don't want China doing
that.
We want the US forming thatrelationship.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
OK, I was absolutely right.
No, it's something you don'tthink about.
It is all.
Ai, yeah, and energy too, butremember you talk AI.
You better be prepared to talkabout energy, because you need
massive amounts of energy tomove forward with AI.
So the whole thought processthat the Middle East and oil and
gas is not going to be part ofour future.
Everything is part of thefuture.
Everything is part of thefuture, and one of the things I

(48:15):
don't think our politicians havewrapped their minds around is
the not only the development ofthe AI, but the amount of
harvesting of energy that we'rehave to be involved in is off
the charts, and I don't think weare.
We're going to be behind onthat if we don't accept it soon
and start to really change theway we operate.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
You know I have this little part-time thing that I do
with the movie business.
You know, keith Giardina,myself and we made a movie last
year and be able to report onthat pretty quickly.
It was called Killer Cafe andso news coming up but the AI
part of it, what we're learningabout movie making.
Look, people aren't able tomake movies for $200 million
anymore.
It doesn't work under thestreaming platforms Right.

(48:51):
It doesn't work, it doesn't addup, and so what they're doing is
they're changing the way toit's all AI.
Yeah, everything is going to beAI, even in the movie.
So he's, he's absolutely right,yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
No, you guys are missing the whole part of that
whole piece, which was a vampire.
Yeah, I want to do the.
I want to do the bloodtransmission thing.
I mean I'm sorry I want to feellike I'm a teenager again.
Can I go do that?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I know we did learn that Kevin O'Leary is basically
a vampire.
All right, let's get into.
You made the comment that Trumpis such a shock to the system
again because of how slow thesystem was moving before him for
four years.
The big story coming up, we'llwrap with this.
This issue is the book comingout from Jake Tapper and Alex
Thompson, called original sin,and this is unbelievable.

(49:32):
It's president Biden's decline.
It's cover up in his disastrouschoice to run again.
Ok, so a couple of quick things.
First of all, I want to justtake you back down memory lane
on what that debate looked likeand one of the inane fights that
Trump and Biden had during thelast debate.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
I got my handicap, which, when I was vice president
, down to a six and, by the way,I told you before I'm happy to
play golf if you carry your ownbag.
Think you can do it that's thebiggest lie.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
He's a six handicap of all.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
I was an eight handicap eight.
I've seen you swing, I know youswing.

Speaker 9 (50:13):
Let's not act like children, president Trump we're
you swing.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Let's not act like children.
President Trump, we're going toturn.
Let's not act like children.
Okay, okay, all right, allright.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
So that's what that is let's get back on track.
The moderator's like what arewe doing?

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Oh my God, what's happening here?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Golf candy can.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Okay, but the damage done during this whole process
to the media and to thedemocratic party has been
profound, and I think that willthat will come to the surface
even more over the next week,because this, this book, is
going to swallow up the oxygen.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Well they're, they're .
They're giving excerpts of thebook already.
And listen, jake Tapper waspart of that.
I was going to say it's richcoming from him.
Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
You guys make a good point, so let's do this.
Let's go to Tapper's publisher.
Okay, he, they.
So let's do this.
Let's go to Tapper's publisher.
Ok, he, they.
Want you to know that Tapper'sbeen on this.
He's been on this from thebeginning.
So clip 29 new video out fromJake Tapper's publisher.
Twenty nine.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
Well, you pledge that if you're elected, you will be
transparent about your healthyeah, assets of your health with
urgency, so that we know.
One poll shows that almosttwo-thirds of Democratic voters
want a new nominee in 2024.
And the top reason they gavewas your age.
You know that's not a goodnumber for President Biden.
Two-thirds of the Americanpeople say he's not sharp enough

(51:27):
to be president.
I mean, how can you use thebully pulpit when you don't have
a bully you can put in thepulpit?
Ok, so you're part of the 23%of adults who is not, who are
not concerned about thepresident's ability to be
president because of his age andstamina.
I mean, I know incumbents ingeneral are not popular right
now, but do you ever think maybewe should have a new candidate?

(51:47):
There's a little bit ofdenialism with the president.
This is a particularly bad weekfor this report and its
comments about President Biden'sfaculties and his memory to
come out, because twice thisweek, he has acted as if he, in
2021, spoke to European leaderswho have been dead for years.
Part of the job of president ishaving the confidence of the

(52:09):
American people in yourfaculties.
The White House's responseevery single time it has come up
for three and a half years hasbeen to deflect, to gaslight, to
not tell the truth, not just toreporters, not just to other
Democrats, but even, at times,to themselves.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Okay, so that's Alex Thompson too.
Now, by the way, I want todistinguish between the two.
Alex Thompson was better onthis issue than Jake Tapper.
Now, the problem for JakeTapper's publisher is there is
such thing as other video, andwe managed to track down a
little bit.
But if you're having to put outthe video, you know there's
already a problem.
Oh, you got a problem oh yougot a problem.
You ready for this?

(52:43):
Here's, here's Tapper, beingless than critical inquisitive
toward the president's abilityto do his job.

Speaker 8 (52:51):
Makes little kids with stutters feel when they see
you make a comment like that.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
It's very clearly a cognitive decline.
That's what I'm referring to.
It makes me uncomfortable?

Speaker 8 (53:03):
You are.
No, this is so amazing.
It's so amazing to me that thattry and figure out an answer, a
cognitive decline.
President Biden embraces hisstutter talking about it, while
Trump mocks it, exaggerates it,belittles it.
He's sharp physically, I meanmentally.
Yeah, I think the question isphysically Right Right, or so
Right Right, and the guy who ishis chief opponent is only three
or four years younger than me Imean you have questioned

(53:24):
President Biden's age, mentalfitness, ability to lead.
Of those supporting Biden yousaid, quote shame on all of you
pretending everything is OK.
You're leading us and him intoa disaster.
Do you worry that you damagedhim at all?
I don't doubt that, that yougot hugs and handshakes behind
closed doors today, and maybeeven publicly some of them,
because they like you personally.
But I've heard a lot of reallynasty stuff about you from your

(53:48):
Democratic colleagues.
I mean just like what is hethinking?
Exercise and narcissism.
I mean false claims to the WallStreet Journal about President
Biden's mental fitness andacuity.
He's 81 and his memory.
You know it doesn't seem great,it's not horrible, but I don't
understand the outrage.
Quote behind closed doors,biden's shows signs of slipping.

(54:09):
Unquote.
The Wall Street Journal is ownedby News Corp, which is run by
the Murdochs.
Beyond the headline there issome critical nuance here.
The article is mostly based onobservations of Republicans,
with former Speaker KevinMcCarthy the only one going on
the record.
They do note in the articlethat most of the criticism comes
from Republicans.
Have you heard any concernsfrom anyone who has met with

(54:30):
President Biden about himseeming a little slower?
No, anyone who has met withPresident Biden about him seeing
seeming a little slower.
No, the Russians are trying todo to make us and the public not
trust our election integrity.
Joe Biden has dimension, allthis stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
OK, so my question for you two is does the
effectiveness of this book orthe impact?

Speaker 3 (54:57):
of this book is it blunted by the fact that Jake
Tapperapper ran cover for joebiden for the better part of
four years.
It's good, I'm just gonna saythe book's gonna sell.
So I think that this I mean weknow jake tapper because we have
followed this whole thingreligiously on our show for two
years, like like hawks I thinkthe average american is gonna be
like if they're interested inthis topic, they're gonna buy
his book.
Jake tapper's gonna get richoff of it.
I'm going to buy the bookbecause I can't wait to read
this, but I think I didn't trustJake Tupper two years ago and I

(55:21):
think it speaks loads to hiscredibility now.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
I think I've ordered it because I'm a political
junkie, yeah, and you know, Ithought it was fascinating that
one of the things that wasleaked I always wondered why
clooney?
Why was it clooney that steppedup and was so adamant behind
the scenes?
We were getting on the reports.
Well, now, coming from the book, one of the one of the excerpts
that's been released is thatwhen he went here.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
it is to that he didn't recognize biden, didn't
recognize clooney.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
It's a headline on the new york post didn't
recognize him, yeah, and so helost it and and recognized as
well.
Oh, this is over.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I mean you can't you know, yeah, no, if you're.
If you're george clooney,you're like wait a minute, you
should recognize me, even if youand I have never met that they
had.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
I mean, but you're going, you're telling me that he
wasn't told he was going togeorge clooney's event I know
it's really it is.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
So, as you look at this, it's nothing to make.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
First of all, it's nothing to make fun of no, not
at all.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I don't think anybody's made fun of it.
No, no, no, no lie to us Right.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
This is a man that is president of the United States
and wants to be for four moreyears, and people are having
about his mental capability ofbeing our commander in chief,
but yet all of behind the scenesare like, look we, we just
can't keep propping them up.
There's conversations now thathe was going to be in a
wheelchair.
Oh, absolutely.
I don't know if any of it'strue, but I think what's

(56:44):
important to understand is thelengths that they will go to
hide just so they can win, nodoubt.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
And just one more quick thing which I'll interrupt
.
I'll interrupt here in a secondand then let you finish,
chrissy.
Just the beginning of this clip27,.
Ava, talking about covering up.
And it wasn't just Tapper, andit wasn't just big wigs in the
Democratic Party, one of ourfavorites and we'll start it off
with Big Joe Scarborough here.
But we'll just get a couple ofquick little things here of a

(57:13):
part of that cover up tape rightnow because I'm about to tell
you the truth.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
There we go and f you if you can't handle the truth,
yeah he's sharp, he's focused,he's bright I don't have any
concerns and and that's frompersonal interactions this
version of biden is the best bever, not a close second.
Alert Sound.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I mean, the Republicans are like good at
distractions.

Speaker 8 (57:44):
I think you have absolutely no standing to
diagnose somebody's cognitivedecline and if the Democrats
were honest, they'd admitPresident Biden's mental
capacity is declining.

Speaker 7 (57:49):
Six in ten Americans don't have confidence in Joe
Biden's mental capacity.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Then you have the liberal media told bad things
about me and members of theOversight Committee, because we
have the audacity to investigate, giving us their drive-by
diagnoses of the President ofthe United States.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Congressman, what you are suggesting is that I omit
portions of my reasoning andexplanation to the Attorney
General for political reasons.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Democrats getting to a frenzy, but the people
remember, had he won theconstitutional crisis, this
would have put our country in,because there would have been
look, they weren't going toadmit it.
No, I mean he, he literallycould have been completely
incapacitated.
We would have had people otherthan the president, which may
have been happening absolutelybut I'm saying, if it just

(58:32):
declined more and more, theywere putting us, at some point
they would have come out and saywell, you know, he, he, he fell
and broke his hip or somethingwhere to say we need to remove
him.
And so that's what I'm saying.
It's disgusting that thishappened.
I'm interested in the book onlyto try to find out some of the
behind the scenes, but it's sad.
It's sad what happened.
It's sad.
It's sad what happened.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
I think the problem I have with all of this is that
they're trying right now to spitit, that a lot of the media did
not know, right and so that nowall this new information is
coming out, right, quote, newinformation.
And now they're like, oh andnow this is all being revealed
and thank goodness Jake Tapper'stelling us all the truth about
this.
I'm sorry, but that any media,especially new type of media,

(59:12):
podcasts especially that I meanwe knew about this, and so I
just think it's hurting theircredibility.
They're losing ratings now andthey're swimming in it and
trying to figure it out andtrying to spin this thing to say
, oh, and this is again I goback this is not a small thing.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
This is not anything.
Oh, they're just a poor guy.
No no no, this is somethingthat could have been look, world
leaders looking and going look.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
No, no, no, the Chinese said this week.
They said they didn't have toworry about any pushback from
Biden because they didn't feellike he was in the position to
stand up and fight for theUnited States.
So they just did whatever theywanted.
They had agreements with theUnited States that they didn't
even honor, because they werelike what's he going to do about
it?
We will by the, because theywere like what's he going to do
about it?
By the grace of God, somethingworse did not happen.

(59:55):
There's no question about that.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
But going back to what I was saying before, then
they probably would have had tocreate something right To say he
can no longer serve.
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I mean, who knows how much longer they would have
gone on with whoever running thecountry, and my guess is we had
at least two years.
Probably.
The whole term of the realityis he had, at best, a very loose
grip on the wheel and at worst,had no grip on the wheel at all
.
Yeah, so scary.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Well, we'll read the book and we'll let you guys know
what we think as well.
But, Darren, again your website.
Tell us one more time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Darren White for Mayor.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Go in, give your $5.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Sign up, get this done, get them enough signatures
.
It's got to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Okay, thanks you guys for tuning in.
We'll see you later on thisweek.
Take care.

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