January 20, 2025 • 16 mins
Some non-Catholics have Biblical objections to Catholicism that they think will admit of no answer at all, much less a Biblical one. I call this "Katholic Kryptonite." Most such objections are variations of "Where is that in the Bible?" But before we answer, we might ask our Fundamentalist friend, "Where did you get the Bible in the first place? " and, "Did you know that the Bible does not teach Sola Scriptura?"
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(00:00):
Over the last 3 quarters of a century,
millions of Catholics have abandoned the faith of
their fathers.
Some leave the church for other Christian communities,
some few for other religions, and increasingly for
no religion at all.
In fact, if ex Catholic was a denomination,
it would be the 2nd largest in the
United States.
Many fundamentalist Christian congregations are made up primarily
(00:23):
of ex Catholics because they specifically target Catholics
for conversion.
Devoting whole ministries to getting us poor, united
Catholics saved.
Now when we talk about ex Catholics, we're
not just talking about some faceless multitude.
We're talking about people you know, friends you
went to school with, even members of your
(00:44):
own family.
But they all have one thing in common.
If you ask them, why did you leave
the church? They'll have no trouble giving you
an answer.
In fact, you'll probably get an earful.
But typically,
their problems with the church are based on
misconceptions.
And that's why it's so important for Catholics
to be able to give them answers about
(01:05):
what the church really teaches and why they
believe it.
Now, I've been involved in,
Catholic apologetics,
catechesis, and evangelization
full time for over 25 years.
And during those years, I've discovered that it
is a lot easier to tear down than
it is to build up.
Anybody with kids knows how a 6 year
(01:25):
old child can spend hours building a masterpiece
with Legos,
only to have a 2 year old sibling
come along and destroy the whole thing in
about 3 seconds.
Similarly, the Catholic church has been around for
2000 years building up the kingdom of God.
So when a fundamentalist Christian snaps off some
biblical one liner that apparently contradicts a Catholic
(01:47):
teaching,
it often takes a lot more than one
line to refute.
So, for example, why do Catholics call their
priests father when Jesus said, call no man
on this earth your father?
Why do Catholics pray to Mary and the
saints when the bible says there's only one
mediator between God and man, the man Christ
(02:07):
Jesus?
These questions and many others are examples of
what I call Catholic Kryptonite.
Objections which fundamentalist Christians think will admit of
no Catholic response at all, much less a
biblical one.
A belief supported by the fact that such
questions do catch most Catholics flat footed and
(02:28):
at a loss to respond.
And since so many non Catholics believe in
the doctrine of sola scriptura,
that is, scripture alone should be the sole
rule of faith,
the first question that we should ask them
is,
where did we get the Bible?
Because the fact of the matter is,
the Bible is a Catholic book.
(02:50):
But before we get into all that, we
need to take a quick look at sacred
tradition.
One of the most common biblical objections to
Catholicism
is why does the Catholic church base some
of its teachings on tradition
when Jesus condemned tradition?
And they turned to the words of Jesus
in Mark 7 verses 8 and 9.
(03:11):
For laying aside the commandment of God, you
hold
tradition of men.
And he said to them, full well you
reject the commandment of God that you may
keep your own tradition.
And in Matthew 15 where he says, and
why do you break the commandment of God
for the sake of your tradition?
(03:31):
In these verses, Christ accused the Pharisees of
clinging to merely human traditions,
the tradition of men.
The problem is that some non Catholics think
that Scripture condemns all tradition.
But this is simply not so.
Rather,
the bible clearly teaches that divine tradition is
(03:53):
to be preserved and honored.
Saint Paul says,
therefore,
stand firm, brethren, and hold fast to the
traditions that you have been taught, whether by
word-of-mouth
or by a letter of ours.
Here we see scripture, tradition, and the magisterium.
Paul's authoritative
(04:14):
teaching,
that we must hold fast to the oral
teachings
as well as the written word.
So saint Paul doesn't believe in sola scriptura
either.
Now, contrary to the fundamentalist
position,
the bible commands believers to follow tradition.
Saint John tells us straight out that not
everything is in the bible.
(04:35):
But there are also many other things that
Jesus did. And if every one of them
was recorded, I do not think the world
itself
could contain the books that would be written.
Saint Paul praises the church at Corinth for
keeping the apostolic tradition.
I praise you because you remember me in
everything,
and you maintain the traditions
(04:57):
just as I handed them down to you.
See, the word tradition literally means to hand
on.
And finally, he condemns those who do not
follow tradition.
We instruct you brothers in the name of
our lord Jesus Christ
to shun any brother who conducts himself in
a disorderly way and not according to the
(05:19):
tradition they received from us.
Therefore,
Catholics obey the apostolic magisterium
and follow both scripture
and tradition.
And to complicate matters, some fundamentalists
still believe the old canard that Catholics are
forbidden to read the bible.
And I always say, if the Catholic church
(05:41):
discourages bible reading, it will come as a
shock to the pope, the thousands of Catholic
priests and bishops, and the many millions of
the Catholic faithful who read the bible every
day.
Over the centuries, the popes and councils have
issued many inspiring documents urging Catholics to read
and study the bible.
Because according to Saint Jerome,
(06:03):
Vatican 2, and the catechism of the Catholic
church,
ignorance of scripture
is ignorance of Christ.
And you may be surprised to learn that
Catholic bibles far outsell all other Christian bibles
around the world, and that they always have.
Which is why before we get to where
is that in the bible,
(06:24):
the question for our separated brethren is, where
did you get your bible?
When did we receive the Christian bible as
we have it today? In other words,
the canon of the bible.
That is the official list of inspired books.
After all, nowhere in the bible does it
say which books belong in the bible.
(06:45):
Where does that list come from?
Well, in the first place, various partial lists
of scripture were put forward in the 1st
generations of the church.
By about 1 70 AD, the 4 gospels
and the 13 epistles of Saint Paul were
pretty much universally accepted.
In a comment on another video,
(07:06):
someone said that the Muratorian
fragment from the late second century has the
canon of scripture, but it's only partial.
It's missing some of the letters. It only
lists 2 of the gospels,
and worse, it includes the apocryphal apocalypse of
Peter.
By the 4th century, the need for an
authoritative table of contents for the bible became
(07:28):
clear.
For one thing, there were lots of spurious
books circulating at this time, like the aforementioned
apocalypse of Peter, and the so called gospel
of Peter, the acts of Paul, the protoevangelium
of James, among others.
And in some places,
there were authentic but non canonical books like
the Didache
(07:48):
or the 7 letters of Saint Ignatius of
Antioch, the epistle of pope Clement to the
Corinthians that were being read as scripture
at holy mass.
So at the 4th council of Rome in
382 AD,
Pope Saint Damasus the first promulgated
a list of the divine scriptures which the
universal church receives as inspired.
(08:12):
His list of 73 books,
46 in the old testament and 27 in
the new, is identical
to the Catholic bible today.
The same biblical canon was accepted and approved
by the councils of Hippo in 3 93
and Carthage in 3 97.
But the plain fact is the very first
(08:33):
Christian bible was produced by the Catholic church.
And it would be many centuries before the
advent of modern printing would make bibles available
and affordable enough for such a thing as
sola scriptura to even be possible.
It's well to remember that the bible is
really a library of sacred books.
(08:53):
And before the medieval invention of the codex,
single pages bound together like a modern book,
all the books of the bible were handwritten
on scrolls of papyrus.
Nobody in the early church was walking around
with a bible.
In fact, if you had all the biblical
scrolls collected together in one place,
(09:14):
it would have looked like a wallpaper shop.
Furthermore, it was a Catholic bishop, Stephen Langton,
that first introduced
chapters into the bible in the year of
our lord 1226,
the very same chapter divisions we still use
today.
The very first bible to come off a
printing press was a Catholic bible, the Gutenberg
(09:35):
bible.
And it was another Catholic printer, Roberto Stephanos,
who introduced verse numbers into the bible.
So when non Catholics quote the bible chapter
and verse, they have Catholics to thank for
it.
It's a simple fact of history that if
it weren't for the Catholic church, there would
be no bible.
(09:55):
Even Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism said,
we are obliged to yield many things to
the papists,
that they have the word of god, that
we received it from them, and that otherwise
we should know nothing at all about it.
While Catholics believe in scripture, tradition, and the
Magisterium,
(10:16):
teaching authority of the church,
many non Catholics hold to Luther's doctrine of
sola scriptura, the bible alone as the sole
rule of faith.
And if you ask where is that in
the bible,
they typically cite saint Paul.
All scripture is inspired by God and is
useful for teaching, for refutation,
for correction, and for training in righteousness,
(10:38):
so that the one who belongs to God
may be competent,
equipped for every good work.
As a Catholic, I heartily agree.
But it does not say that scripture alone
should be the sole rule of faith. Does
it?
I might point out what Saint Paul says
to Timothy, a young bishop in the preceding
verse.
(10:58):
Remain faithful to what you have learned and
believed
because you know from whom you learned it,
and that from infancy
you have known the sacred scriptures.
What scriptures is Paul talking about?
Much of the new testament did not exist
when Paul wrote these words, not even all
the gospels,
nor did saint Paul know that this letter
(11:20):
would one day be in the collection of
books that we call the bible.
In context,
the only scripture that Timothy could have known
from his infancy is the Old Testament.
Well, obviously, they don't believe the Old Testament
is the sole rule of faith.
But taken literally,
the way fundamentalists like to think they read
(11:40):
the bible,
Paul's words, all scriptures inspired by God, do
not even refer to the Christian bible as
we know it.
At the end of the day, the bible
simply doesn't teach sola scriptura.
On the contrary, as we have seen, the
bible approves sacred tradition
and clearly demonstrates the need for a teaching
(12:01):
authority,
that is the magisterium.
Consider acts 826
through 40,
where we encounter an Ethiopian official reading from
the book of Isaiah.
The apostle Philip asks, do you understand what
you are reading?
And he answers, how can I unless someone
instructs me?
(12:23):
Philip then proceeds to explain how the prophecies
of Isaiah are fulfilled in Christ.
And you'll note that the episode does not
end with the Ethiopian saying the sinner's prayer,
nor does he ask Jesus into his heart
as his personal lord and savior.
Rather, he says, look, there is water.
What is to prevent my being baptized?
(12:46):
That is because the biblical response to accepting
the gospel
is entrance into the church that Christ established
through the sacrament
of baptism.
As I mentioned before,
Catholics are not forbidden to read the bible.
Not only do millions of Catholics read the
bible daily in the holy mass and the
(13:07):
liturgy of the hours,
but all Catholics are encouraged to study the
bible,
to read it devotionally, and to apply it
to their own lives.
What is forbidden
is private interpretation.
The main thesis of sola scriptura is the
doctrine of the perspicuity
of scripture.
(13:27):
That is that the meaning of the bible
is so obvious that anyone can read it,
understand it, and rightly interpret it for themselves.
But that's not what the bible says.
Saint Peter says of the letters of Saint
Paul,
in them there are some things that are
difficult to understand,
which the ignorant and the unstable distort in
(13:48):
the same way that they distort the other
scriptures
to their own destruction.
And the slam dunk is 2nd Peter 120.
First of all, you must understand that no
prophecy of scripture is a matter of private
interpretation.
It's ironic that the bible alone doctrine should
(14:09):
depend on the private interpretation of scripture
when scripture condemns private interpretation.
So when a non Catholic says the bible
alone is my only authority,
what they actually mean is my personal interpretation
of the Bible is my only authority.
(14:29):
In effect, each Bible believing Christian is his
own pope.
This is a recipe for division.
During his own lifetime, Martin Luther, the originator
of sola scriptura lamented,
I tried to get rid of 1 pope.
Now, there are more than a 100.
And it's just gotten worse.
(14:52):
Today,
approximately half of the world's over 2,000,000,000 Christians
are Catholics.
Of the remaining 50%,
one half belong to the various Orthodox churches.
And according to the Center For the Study
of Global Christianity,
the remaining 25%
are made up of over 45,000
(15:13):
protestant fundamentalist
evangelical denominations.
As I mentioned in a previous video,
the Catholic church is not bible based.
Rather, the church is Christ based, and the
Bible
is church based.
That's the final irony.
If you accept the authority of the Bible,
(15:34):
you already accept the authority of the Catholic
church
because it was the Catholic church that gave
us the Bible.
And that's
no nonsense.
Okay. That's it for this time.
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and kindly keep the comments coming.
I truly appreciate all the kind words. And
(15:57):
as for the trolls,
please be assured of my prayers for your
conversion.
If you'd like more information, just visit my
website, no nonsense catholic.com.
Until next time. Thanks for listening,
and may god richly bless you and your
family.
Over the last 3 quarters of a century,
millions of Catholics have abandoned the faith of
their fathers.
Some leave the church for other Christian communities,
some few for other religions, and increasingly for
no religion at all.
In fact, if ex Catholic was a denomination,
it would be the 2nd largest in the
United States.
Many fundamentalist Christian congregations are made up primarily
(00:23):
of ex Catholics because they specifically target Catholics
for conversion.
Devoting whole ministries to getting us poor, united
Catholics saved.
Now when we talk about ex Catholics, we're
not just talking about some faceless multitude.
We're talking about people you know, friends you
went to school with, even members of your
(00:44):
own family.
But they all have one thing in common.
If you ask them, why did you leave
the church? They'll have no trouble giving you
an answer.
In fact, you'll probably get an earful.
But typically,
their problems with the church are based on
misconceptions.
And that's why it's so important for Catholics
to be able to give them answers about
(01:05):
what the church really teaches and why they
believe it.
Now, I've been involved in,
Catholic apologetics,
catechesis, and evangelization
full time for over 25 years.
And during those years, I've discovered that it
is a lot easier to tear down than
it is to build up.
Anybody with kids knows how a 6 year
(01:25):
old child can spend hours building a masterpiece
with Legos,
only to have a 2 year old sibling
come along and destroy the whole thing in
about 3 seconds.
Similarly, the Catholic church has been around for
2000 years building up the kingdom of God.
So when a fundamentalist Christian snaps off some
biblical one liner that apparently contradicts a Catholic
(01:47):
teaching,
it often takes a lot more than one
line to refute.
So, for example, why do Catholics call their
priests father when Jesus said, call no man
on this earth your father?
Why do Catholics pray to Mary and the
saints when the bible says there's only one
mediator between God and man, the man Christ
(02:07):
Jesus?
These questions and many others are examples of
what I call Catholic Kryptonite.
Objections which fundamentalist Christians think will admit of
no Catholic response at all, much less a
biblical one.
A belief supported by the fact that such
questions do catch most Catholics flat footed and
(02:28):
at a loss to respond.
And since so many non Catholics believe in
the doctrine of sola scriptura,
that is, scripture alone should be the sole
rule of faith,
the first question that we should ask them
is,
where did we get the Bible?
Because the fact of the matter is,
the Bible is a Catholic book.
(02:50):
But before we get into all that, we
need to take a quick look at sacred
tradition.
One of the most common biblical objections to
Catholicism
is why does the Catholic church base some
of its teachings on tradition
when Jesus condemned tradition?
And they turned to the words of Jesus
in Mark 7 verses 8 and 9.
(03:11):
For laying aside the commandment of God, you
hold
tradition of men.
And he said to them, full well you
reject the commandment of God that you may
keep your own tradition.
And in Matthew 15 where he says, and
why do you break the commandment of God
for the sake of your tradition?
(03:31):
In these verses, Christ accused the Pharisees of
clinging to merely human traditions,
the tradition of men.
The problem is that some non Catholics think
that Scripture condemns all tradition.
But this is simply not so.
Rather,
the bible clearly teaches that divine tradition is
(03:53):
to be preserved and honored.
Saint Paul says,
therefore,
stand firm, brethren, and hold fast to the
traditions that you have been taught, whether by
word-of-mouth
or by a letter of ours.
Here we see scripture, tradition, and the magisterium.
Paul's authoritative
(04:14):
teaching,
that we must hold fast to the oral
teachings
as well as the written word.
So saint Paul doesn't believe in sola scriptura
either.
Now, contrary to the fundamentalist
position,
the bible commands believers to follow tradition.
Saint John tells us straight out that not
everything is in the bible.
(04:35):
But there are also many other things that
Jesus did. And if every one of them
was recorded, I do not think the world
itself
could contain the books that would be written.
Saint Paul praises the church at Corinth for
keeping the apostolic tradition.
I praise you because you remember me in
everything,
and you maintain the traditions
(04:57):
just as I handed them down to you.
See, the word tradition literally means to hand
on.
And finally, he condemns those who do not
follow tradition.
We instruct you brothers in the name of
our lord Jesus Christ
to shun any brother who conducts himself in
a disorderly way and not according to the
(05:19):
tradition they received from us.
Therefore,
Catholics obey the apostolic magisterium
and follow both scripture
and tradition.
And to complicate matters, some fundamentalists
still believe the old canard that Catholics are
forbidden to read the bible.
And I always say, if the Catholic church
(05:41):
discourages bible reading, it will come as a
shock to the pope, the thousands of Catholic
priests and bishops, and the many millions of
the Catholic faithful who read the bible every
day.
Over the centuries, the popes and councils have
issued many inspiring documents urging Catholics to read
and study the bible.
Because according to Saint Jerome,
(06:03):
Vatican 2, and the catechism of the Catholic
church,
ignorance of scripture
is ignorance of Christ.
And you may be surprised to learn that
Catholic bibles far outsell all other Christian bibles
around the world, and that they always have.
Which is why before we get to where
is that in the bible,
(06:24):
the question for our separated brethren is, where
did you get your bible?
When did we receive the Christian bible as
we have it today? In other words,
the canon of the bible.
That is the official list of inspired books.
After all, nowhere in the bible does it
say which books belong in the bible.
(06:45):
Where does that list come from?
Well, in the first place, various partial lists
of scripture were put forward in the 1st
generations of the church.
By about 1 70 AD, the 4 gospels
and the 13 epistles of Saint Paul were
pretty much universally accepted.
In a comment on another video,
(07:06):
someone said that the Muratorian
fragment from the late second century has the
canon of scripture, but it's only partial.
It's missing some of the letters. It only
lists 2 of the gospels,
and worse, it includes the apocryphal apocalypse of
Peter.
By the 4th century, the need for an
authoritative table of contents for the bible became
(07:28):
clear.
For one thing, there were lots of spurious
books circulating at this time, like the aforementioned
apocalypse of Peter, and the so called gospel
of Peter, the acts of Paul, the protoevangelium
of James, among others.
And in some places,
there were authentic but non canonical books like
the Didache
(07:48):
or the 7 letters of Saint Ignatius of
Antioch, the epistle of pope Clement to the
Corinthians that were being read as scripture
at holy mass.
So at the 4th council of Rome in
382 AD,
Pope Saint Damasus the first promulgated
a list of the divine scriptures which the
universal church receives as inspired.
(08:12):
His list of 73 books,
46 in the old testament and 27 in
the new, is identical
to the Catholic bible today.
The same biblical canon was accepted and approved
by the councils of Hippo in 3 93
and Carthage in 3 97.
But the plain fact is the very first
(08:33):
Christian bible was produced by the Catholic church.
And it would be many centuries before the
advent of modern printing would make bibles available
and affordable enough for such a thing as
sola scriptura to even be possible.
It's well to remember that the bible is
really a library of sacred books.
(08:53):
And before the medieval invention of the codex,
single pages bound together like a modern book,
all the books of the bible were handwritten
on scrolls of papyrus.
Nobody in the early church was walking around
with a bible.
In fact, if you had all the biblical
scrolls collected together in one place,
(09:14):
it would have looked like a wallpaper shop.
Furthermore, it was a Catholic bishop, Stephen Langton,
that first introduced
chapters into the bible in the year of
our lord 1226,
the very same chapter divisions we still use
today.
The very first bible to come off a
printing press was a Catholic bible, the Gutenberg
(09:35):
bible.
And it was another Catholic printer, Roberto Stephanos,
who introduced verse numbers into the bible.
So when non Catholics quote the bible chapter
and verse, they have Catholics to thank for
it.
It's a simple fact of history that if
it weren't for the Catholic church, there would
be no bible.
(09:55):
Even Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism said,
we are obliged to yield many things to
the papists,
that they have the word of god, that
we received it from them, and that otherwise
we should know nothing at all about it.
While Catholics believe in scripture, tradition, and the
Magisterium,
(10:16):
teaching authority of the church,
many non Catholics hold to Luther's doctrine of
sola scriptura, the bible alone as the sole
rule of faith.
And if you ask where is that in
the bible,
they typically cite saint Paul.
All scripture is inspired by God and is
useful for teaching, for refutation,
for correction, and for training in righteousness,
(10:38):
so that the one who belongs to God
may be competent,
equipped for every good work.
As a Catholic, I heartily agree.
But it does not say that scripture alone
should be the sole rule of faith. Does
it?
I might point out what Saint Paul says
to Timothy, a young bishop in the preceding
verse.
(10:58):
Remain faithful to what you have learned and
believed
because you know from whom you learned it,
and that from infancy
you have known the sacred scriptures.
What scriptures is Paul talking about?
Much of the new testament did not exist
when Paul wrote these words, not even all
the gospels,
nor did saint Paul know that this letter
(11:20):
would one day be in the collection of
books that we call the bible.
In context,
the only scripture that Timothy could have known
from his infancy is the Old Testament.
Well, obviously, they don't believe the Old Testament
is the sole rule of faith.
But taken literally,
the way fundamentalists like to think they read
(11:40):
the bible,
Paul's words, all scriptures inspired by God, do
not even refer to the Christian bible as
we know it.
At the end of the day, the bible
simply doesn't teach sola scriptura.
On the contrary, as we have seen, the
bible approves sacred tradition
and clearly demonstrates the need for a teaching
(12:01):
authority,
that is the magisterium.
Consider acts 826
through 40,
where we encounter an Ethiopian official reading from
the book of Isaiah.
The apostle Philip asks, do you understand what
you are reading?
And he answers, how can I unless someone
instructs me?
(12:23):
Philip then proceeds to explain how the prophecies
of Isaiah are fulfilled in Christ.
And you'll note that the episode does not
end with the Ethiopian saying the sinner's prayer,
nor does he ask Jesus into his heart
as his personal lord and savior.
Rather, he says, look, there is water.
What is to prevent my being baptized?
(12:46):
That is because the biblical response to accepting
the gospel
is entrance into the church that Christ established
through the sacrament
of baptism.
As I mentioned before,
Catholics are not forbidden to read the bible.
Not only do millions of Catholics read the
bible daily in the holy mass and the
(13:07):
liturgy of the hours,
but all Catholics are encouraged to study the
bible,
to read it devotionally, and to apply it
to their own lives.
What is forbidden
is private interpretation.
The main thesis of sola scriptura is the
doctrine of the perspicuity
of scripture.
(13:27):
That is that the meaning of the bible
is so obvious that anyone can read it,
understand it, and rightly interpret it for themselves.
But that's not what the bible says.
Saint Peter says of the letters of Saint
Paul,
in them there are some things that are
difficult to understand,
which the ignorant and the unstable distort in
(13:48):
the same way that they distort the other
scriptures
to their own destruction.
And the slam dunk is 2nd Peter 120.
First of all, you must understand that no
prophecy of scripture is a matter of private
interpretation.
It's ironic that the bible alone doctrine should
(14:09):
depend on the private interpretation of scripture
when scripture condemns private interpretation.
So when a non Catholic says the bible
alone is my only authority,
what they actually mean is my personal interpretation
of the Bible is my only authority.
(14:29):
In effect, each Bible believing Christian is his
own pope.
This is a recipe for division.
During his own lifetime, Martin Luther, the originator
of sola scriptura lamented,
I tried to get rid of 1 pope.
Now, there are more than a 100.
And it's just gotten worse.
(14:52):
Today,
approximately half of the world's over 2,000,000,000 Christians
are Catholics.
Of the remaining 50%,
one half belong to the various Orthodox churches.
And according to the Center For the Study
of Global Christianity,
the remaining 25%
are made up of over 45,000
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protestant fundamentalist
evangelical denominations.
As I mentioned in a previous video,
the Catholic church is not bible based.
Rather, the church is Christ based, and the
Bible
is church based.
That's the final irony.
If you accept the authority of the Bible,
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you already accept the authority of the Catholic
church
because it was the Catholic church that gave
us the Bible.
And that's
no nonsense.
Okay. That's it for this time.
Please take a moment to like and subscribe,
and kindly keep the comments coming.
I truly appreciate all the kind words. And
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as for the trolls,
please be assured of my prayers for your
conversion.
If you'd like more information, just visit my
website, no nonsense catholic.com.
Until next time. Thanks for listening,
and may god richly bless you and your
family.
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