May 12, 2025 • 56 mins
This week's freshly popped horror movie review covers Clown in a Cornfield (2025), which dropped in theaters this weekend. 🤡
A fading midwestern town in which Frendo the clown, a symbol of bygone success, reemerges as a terrifying scourge.
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In an overgrowded graveyard, thescreen will rise.
Pool mates. Entertainment presents.
Not another spooky podcast. Welcome back to Not Another
Spooky Podcast, where we serve freshly popped horror reviews
filled with blood, guts and spoilers every Monday.
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I'm Mandy Spooks. And I'm Rabbit loves horror, and
we're here to remind you, theaters are not dead one bloody
popcorn bucket at a time. Whether you love going to every
single horror release or you want to hear all the reviews and
spoilers before spending money at the theatre, we've got you
covered. The front half of the show never
has any spoilers and will warn you when it's time.
Today we're grave digging into Clown in a Cornfield.
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If you ever want to know what film we're covering next, you
can check the show notes to see what you should watch that
weekend. To set the vibe for this
episode, we're doing a clown themed round of Bone Marry
Slash. OK, finally an easy round.
I think so. Well, it was easy to create and
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I think I'll be good with with my choosings, our choices.
So we have Pennywise and I I'm thinking I'll give a Co host
choice of which one you would like to go with.
Which version, Terrifier and Friendo do you want to go first?
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Yeah, I'll go first. OK.
I guess for Pennywise, I'll go with Bill Skarsgard.
Is that the doctor? I think that's it.
I'll bone Pennywise slash Terrifier for sure.
He's he's creepy. He's creeps me out like even
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before I saw the movie and I would see people wearing that
costume around Midsummer scream.It would terrify me.
So I don't I don't like him. He could, he could die.
And I guess I'll marry Friendo because I'll get into it later.
I love the movie. What about you?
OK, interesting. I would slash Terra Fire for
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sure 'cause he's also gross on top of gory I guess.
Or like. Yeah, he is.
Horror bone friendo and marry their original Pennywise.
It has my heart. That's fair, That's fair.
All right. And I actually don't have any
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haunted housekeeping for you guys today, so we will get right
into how we're keeping the spookalive.
It's alive, it's alive. All right, Rabbit, how are you
keeping the spook alive? All right, so this week we did a
little bit of spooky things. Last night we went to Fan Fest
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at Universal Studios and that was really fun.
It was more nostalgic than spooky, but we did meet the
Witches of Oz, so we did meet Alphaba and we did meet Glenda.
So I guess that counts as spooky, right?
Yes, definitely. Oh my God that's so cool.
I haven't seen anything about them on my social media feed
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yet. How do they look?
They look pretty good. Yeah.
I think they weren't advertised in the beginning because when I
booked the tickets, I didn't seeWicked part of the like the cast
or like the meet and greets. And then like a week before the
1st fan fest started, they posted something on Tiktok or
Instagram and pretty much sayinglike, oh, you meet a greet with
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Alphabet and Glenda. So that was really exciting
because I actually got those tickets for Michael's birthday.
So it was nice that there's likea little extra addition to like
his birthday present. But yeah, they come out
separately, so they wasn't like you can't meet them both at the
same time. They like switch off.
But they looked really good. The costumes were really good.
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The wig was really good on Glenda.
Like the dress was pretty big too.
So yeah, it was. It was pretty cool.
That's cool. I can't.
Do you have pictures? I'm like why didn't?
You say I didn't post those pictures because we switched
phones. Michael, I switched on.
So he has some pictures on his phone and then I have some
pictures and those are the pictures that I posted on my
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Instagram. So I just have to get those
pictures from him and then I could post them on Instagram and
show you. OK, cool.
Yeah, I haven't seen any so I'm curious.
Cool, not bad. I wouldn't complain about a day
at Universal. Oh yeah, but it was really hot.
And that was that was part of also the spookiness because it
was extremely hot. It was like non-stop sweating.
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And also another thing we it doesn't start till 7:00 and we
wanted to eat at Universal. And I guess part of the
spookiness was me because I was in a bad mood when we first got
there because from if I don't have dinner between like 5:30 to
6:30, like I need to eat within that time window.
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And if I don't, I get really grumpy.
So I definitely started off pretty spooky at the beginning,
but then after I ate, I was fine.
But yeah, it was a fun night. So hopefully they do more and
they have different themes and different characters that you
can meet. But how did you keep this book
alive? I was trying to think I was
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like, I feel like I didn't do anything.
But then I remembered we had ourfirst film fest for our short
film, The Night Father Came Home.
And so those film fests are likeshort, kind of like half days
for this Film Festival that we were in.
And it's always really cool for me because we get to see like,
what other indie film makers have created and just like, hang
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out with other film makers. But it was really exciting.
Like, I think it was the first time that I finally, finally
realized, like, we're our own worst critics.
And like, what we did did matter.
And like, other people can't do it, even though we're like,
well, it was just fan fiction. So it was really nice to just be
like up there and have people asking us actual questions
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because we were like, no one's going to have questions for us.
Like it's just a little 2 minutewhatever, you know?
So it was very eye opening and motivating to just be like, OK,
I'm I'm so like hungry to just start our next one.
I'm on the final draft now and Ijust feel like I've been working
a lot. Honestly, today it finally hit
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me. I feel like I'm going to be very
scatterbrained on this episode. So I apologize to everyone but I
if you haven't seen I have a newvideo or like series called the
Haunted Lion on my YouTube channel and behind the scenes
has not been the best experience.
Me and Mr. Spooks joke today that the Salem witch trials
video was cursed because like anything that could go wrong
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with it did go wrong with it. We actually had to refilm it.
So I had just finished like getting it out just now.
We had sound issues, we had corrupt files like everything.
It was like the video just did not want to come out.
So I've just been working reallyhard on that behind the scenes
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and I've been enjoying it a lot.I thought that I was just going
to do like quick research for these stories, but then I got
really invested in this one and I spent so much time like
watching so many videos about Salem and I felt like every
emotion possible over the last week because I started out being
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fully transparent because I feellike I can't do that on this
platform. I kind of get kind of icky about
like the way people treat Salem now sometimes because I'm like,
we kind of pretend that like nothing bad happened there and
just it's all the witchy fun vibes.
And like I, I started out that way and then by the end I was
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like, no, there is like so many reasons that we should celebrate
it and be there. And I want to go more than ever
now, but I had a lot of emotions.
And then like, even one of the times we did film, it didn't
make it because the footage got corrupt.
But I even had a point where, like, I had to stop and just
like, not let myself feel because I was, like, going to
start crying. And I was like, that's not the
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vibe of this video. Like, I don't want to be crying
on this series, but I have felt so many things over the last
week. And I was like, OK, I don't know
if this series is a good idea because it's all about women.
And so yeah, it's been, I feel like I've been a mess.
And I'm sorry if I'm all over the place today.
No, no, it's you're right. I mean, it's yeah, it's you
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think of it and it's like, oh, fun spooky vibes.
But then you when you actually started like researching like,
oh, this is like really dark history.
Like what happened here was kindof like a massacre in a way.
But yeah, I feel the same way with other spooky things.
Like last night we were at Fan Fest and some guy was had like a
sweater of like the Manson guy and I'm like why are we
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glorifying him? Like why are you having?
Yeah. That on like, yes, it's like
interesting to learn about that stuff and like watch the TV
shows and like find what happened or the movies or
whatever. But to like glorify him and like
a have like a cool cap on him, like a snap back on him and have
him like on your clothes. I don't know.
It's kind of icky to me. So yeah, I get where you're
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coming from. Yeah, for sure.
And I, I've always struggled with true crime too because I'm
like, well, I don't want to likelean in, like capitalize off of
it. So I don't know.
I'm curious to see how people respond to this video because I
feel like it's not what's typically talked about in the
community when it's like Salem content.
But I'm hoping people like it because I also feel like for me,
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I love spooky vibes, but I also just feel like knowing the
history of all the things we love is really important too.
So we'll see. My vision for the series was
always to like have a mixture oflike spooky ghost stories and
then some history and then some,like pop culture origins, those
kind of things. But I think it's just going to
depend on like how people respond to each of them to see
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like where the series goes. But we'll see.
Thank you for your patience withme though because I know that I
have not been the best Co host this past week.
No, you're fine. I get it.
I get the struggle. So you're good and I'm excited
to watch the videos. I love like Dark History and Cor
History so it sounds like a goodtime.
Yeah, for sure. All right, Ghosters, it's time
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for the spoiler pack segment of the show.
So if you don't want any spoilers, this is your warning
to pause and come back once you've seen the movie.
What popped into theaters this week?
Rabbit. All righty, So this week, Clown
in a Cornfield dropped into theaters.
I'm going to start with the Rotten Tomatoes Tomato Eater.
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It is actually a certified freshmovie, but it has an audience
rating of 68%, which I get it, Ithink it should be higher, but I
get it. So the synopsis that I got from
Bloody Disgusting is Quinn and her father moved to a tiny
boring kettle springs to find a fresh start.
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But when they don't, what they don't know is that ever since
the Bay Pen corn syrup factory shut down, Kettle Springs was
cracked in half. On one side are the adults who
are desperate to make Kettle Springs great again, and on the
other are the kids who want to have fun, make prank videos, and
get out as quick as they can. Kettle Springs is caught in a
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battle between old and new, tradition and progress.
It's a fight that looks like it will destroy the town until a
friend of the Bay Pen mascot, a creepy clown, goes on a
homicidal rampage and decides that the only way for Kettle
Springs to grow back as to Cole,the rotten crop of kids who live
there now. So let's take a quick little
summary, but then to go into theextended summary in case you
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haven't seen the movie or you just need like a refresher, I'm
going to go into more detail here in super spoilers.
So to go go further on that friendo turns out to not to be a
singular clown. It turned out to be the older
generation of people trying to cleanse the younger generation
from the town, which is actuallya tradition in that specific
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town because they've actually done this before with previous
generations, like the hippies inthe 70s and then I guess like
the stoners in the 90s and so onand so forth.
So whatever they don't agree with, they just try to like kill
them off in that town. Luckily, the main characters in
this generation are able to escape, but not without losing a
couple of friends along the way.It was a lot of cast, so I'm
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going to go with the like the top two.
There's just like so many peoplein here that I don't even
recognize. But I did love all the cast.
It was directed by Eli Craig, which is the, when I was looking
into it, director of Zombieland,the TV series, which is pretty
cool. And then we have Katie Douglas,
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who played Quinn, and we have Carson McCormack as Cole.
And like I said, there's a lot more people in this movie, but
it'll just be a long list of saying names.
But yeah. Cool.
Yeah, there is a lot of details with this film, I feel.
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Yes. Well, I want to get your first
initial reactions because you did not read the book.
Yeah, I feel like it was a good thing I did not read the book.
I think it's like the opposite, like you and me how I felt about
Until Dawn. I was like, this is not Until
Dawn and then you're like, this is not Connor Kerfield.
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But I love this movie. It really felt like this was
like the the Gen. Z scream in a way.
It was self aware and it had some really funny moments, but
really crazy kills. So I thought it was really,
really good. And I feel like this is what
hell of a Summer was trying to do.
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But they Connor Carfield just did it better.
What are your first impressions?No, I love that.
I felt the same way as far as the hell of a summer thing.
So I did read the book. I am not.
I've obviously had a lot going on.
So I feel like I didn't like, I didn't fully listen to it.
It was like when I had time I would throw it on.
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But I caught enough that I kind of had a whiplash going into the
movie because it, I think when Iwas listening to the book, I
could really envision it as a movie.
And then that's what I expected going in.
And they changed a lot about thebook that the whole time I was
just trying to figure out, like,did I misunderstand the book or
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did they completely change this?So I really did enjoy it.
Like, by the end, it was good enough that I was forgiving.
It was different, but I didn't get to enjoy it.
And now hearing your review, I actually really want to go back
and watch it a second time to like, enjoy it for what it is.
Yeah, I feel like for movies like this now that we both kind
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of had this experience, I feel like going forward we need to
know to throw everything out thedoor that we know and just go
into like movies or the a familiar movie or familiar story
and just go in with like AI don't know a fresh mind and not
like bringing what you already know about that story into the
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movie. Because yeah, I, it is
frustrating when you go in and, you know, like some things and
you're like, wait, this is not what happens.
And it's kind of like distracting because you're
thinking of like, what is happening?
And you're like, are they going to get to this point in the book
or are they going to do this? So it kind of like makes you
start thinking and take you awayfrom the movie.
So yeah, I get it. Yeah, for sure.
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I have many regrets about how I handled the movie, but yeah, all
right. I really loved what you had
mentioned to me about the tone and atmosphere, so I would love
to hear your thoughts first. Set the vibe for everyone.
Yeah, so I thought the tone and the atmosphere for this movie
was perfect for me. It gave crazy slasher vibes, but
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also cool, gory moments, but also really funny moments.
So it was like a little bit here, a little bit there, and I
was like, I'm loving this. If I had to pick one scene that
perfectly describes this movie, it's the scene where Janet gets
killed, and that's the stereotypical popular girl.
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So they're in the house that they're hiding out in and she
gets stabbed by a pitchfork by Friendo and she gets pushed into
the ceiling and starts getting electric electrocuted by the
lamp and the ceiling, which is crazy.
And then she falls on the ground.
And then Queen kind of just likepulls out the pitchfork and like
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steps on her to get it out and then goes in to stab the clown
or to to stab Friendo. So she's able to kill Friendo,
but she pulled the pitchfork outof Janet.
So obviously she's bleeding out and dying.
So while she's dying, Janet withher last dying words, it's like,
I hate you, Quinn. And then the clown or friendo
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says, me too. And I thought that was like the
funniest thing. And I thought it was just like,
so perfect. Like what this movie is.
It's gory, it's funny and a little crazy.
Yeah, for sure, I have. I completely agree.
I really feel like they balancedhorror and comedy and commentary
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extremely well in this film. I think that's partly why I was
upset because they pulled back alot on the commentary.
But they struck the perfect balance at the same time, so I
don't know. I really enjoyed it.
Like I said, I was so upset about the changes, but the movie
was so fun that by the end I just couldn't ignore how fun it
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was. Like it was like a Mandy Spook's
fun watch. There was number part that was
too slow, there was enough setup, everything.
But I really loved that the horror and comedy were really
well balanced. I also want to say for those who
are not into like, really scary movies, this movie's not scary
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at all. It's like just all fun.
Like there's no jump scares. It's not needed.
Even the gore I would say, like,I don't know that it's super
gory, but it's still just enoughto make it a real slasher.
Yeah, I even feel like the gory is a little silly, like it adds
to the comedy because it's like very like exaggerating,
squirting blood everywhere. So yeah, it's definitely not
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gory in in a way where it's likea body horror movie, but more of
like a bloody, I don't know, shooting blood everywhere, kind
of like fun. Yeah, for sure.
And then as far as the balance goes, I feel like it kind of
goes into like the direction on my end, the whole like balancing
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the comedy in horror. I feel like major kudos to the
director because I can't. We kind of said this with
Rosario that like the directing fell short because they didn't
like get her to like say the lines right or anything.
And in this one, I feel like sometimes when comedy and horror
is done, it is really corny and then it like takes you out of
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it. But in these, they were so well
done that like, you laughed and loved it, but it only like
brought you into the movie more versus like reminding you like,
oh, this isn't a real horror movie movie.
We're throwing in a cheesy line on it, you know, So I feel like
the directing was really good inthat sense that every single
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line was delivered like just right.
And I feel like that also just goes to kudos to the cast too.
But that's really what stuck outto me more.
Like I didn't even really have notes about the cinematography
because like everything was justdone so well that nothing stuck
out. But like that's proof that it
was good because I know for surewhen like I don't like the
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cinematography, it bothers me and those kind of things.
So everything was just. A really nice.
Yeah, I do feel like even when they were saying funny things,
like in a really traumatic setting, it felt believable.
I'm like, Oh yeah, I guess a kid, a teenager would say
something stupid like that. But yeah, I agree, It didn't
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really Take Me Out. It kind of just added to the fun
Ness of this movie to go back into more of like the direction
and the cinematography. Like I said before, the
director, I also did Zombieland,the TV show, but I've never,
I've never seen the TV show, butI have seen the movie and it
made total sense to me because that's kind of how Zombieland
is. It's super gory, but it's also
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super stupid. So I was like, OK, that, that
really, that really makes sense of why I, I like, really like
them because I really like Zombieland.
So yeah, I think I'm a, I'm a huge fan of you like Craig now.
So I might go back and watch theTV series of Zombieland.
And then you had mentioned another movie too, that he had
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directed our TV show or something that I might check out
too. Yeah, the Tucker and Dale versus
evil. I think I didn't even know about
the Zombieland show because everyone was talking about the
movie. So I think we both have
homework. Yeah, I had never heard of that
Tucker movie or so. I just learned about it when I
was researching for the podcast.So yeah, I need to check that
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out too. Cool.
All right, Well, now we have arrived to the part that I feel
like I'm going to have the most to say about, but I want you to
go first because it's all about the writing and pacing.
And I want to share kind of likewith Until Dawn, I want to share
the like what changed compared to the book.
Oh yeah, yeah. OK, yeah, that's exciting
because yeah, I have no idea what happened in the book.
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I haven't seen anything about it, but I guess I'll get into my
thing first. So I thought the writing was
great. The pacing was perfect.
Like I never felt bored. Like it started really good and
then there would be like some dialogue, some story, and then
like something crazy would happen.
So it was a perfect mix of humorand horror.
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The storyline was cool. The motive of the kills were
clear, even though I think it's kind of like outlandish, like I
don't think that this would particularly happen, but it was
clear. I knew why they were going after
all the kids and I really like that.
It was like a push and pull of generations literally at war
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trying to coexist at the same time.
Or this like younger generation is starting to come up age and
realizing they want things to bedifferent.
And then the older generation islike, no, we want everything to
stay the same. So I thought it had a good mix
of realism and fantasy, but didn't keep it too real because
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I tend to not like when things are a little bit too real.
So I don't know if you've ever seen American Horror Story cult
that season. So that weirdly enough, also
includes clowns. Oh.
Interesting. I know it's where I was like,
wait, it's kind of the same, thekind of same storyline, but the
movie did it better. That show was just a little too
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real for me. So it was a little too like,
yeah, we're talking about Trump here.
So it was just too, I don't know, too real for me to get
into it. I was like, I'm not, I did not
enjoy that season and I will never see it again.
But this movie really did a goodjob of keeping it kind of like
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with in the current events, but still keeping it entertaining in
my in my view. This is interesting for me.
So question for you. Do you not enjoy it or like for
American Horror Story for example, is it because you don't
want to be like reminded about Trump while you're watching
horror? Yes.
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Exactly. Yeah, I don't want to think
about him. That is fair, 100%.
Same thing with the the new Daredevil show.
It's the same kind of premise where this guy Kingpin is kind
of like the Trump of the show, and he starts getting elected to
like, mayor and all this. And I'm like, this is too real.
Like this is I watch like, TV and movies to like, get away
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from reality. And when it's like, too parallel
to what's happening currently, I'm like, I'm not interested.
I lose interest. But yeah, this movie, for me, it
just did it perfectly for me. Yeah, that's really interesting
to hear because I actually so though I'm OK.
Sorry, First, are you finished? Because I have a lot to share
about the book. Yeah, I'm done.
Come back. OK, so the book is much more
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heavy on the commentary tackles like specific issues.
They'd never say Trump, but there's a certain point in the
book where they even say make kettle springs great again.
So it's like very clear and thisis kind of going to get into
like casting and characters too.But the book was very different.
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It opens with the scene of how Cole's sister dies and they're
live streaming it. So they are not creators of
Friendo in the book. I think they just create videos
about like life and having fun and stuff.
So that threw me for a spin immediately I was like what the
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heck is going on? Like in the movie they are
creating content about like I guess they're doing like fake
scares of friendo and stuff and in the book that's they're not
creating anything about the clown or anything.
It's all just like vlog style, Iguess, unless I misunderstood
that part of me also has that like, wait, did I just like not
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listen to the book enough that now I'm super confused with
everything? But I'm like nearly 99% sure it
was not about that. And so it opens on that scene
and then it jumps to Quinn moving and I don't know why.
Like I just really envisioned that like so, well, coming to
life on screen. And then Quinn's dad is actually
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really different. And I saw, I don't know his
name, but there's another YouTube reviewer who actually
said that they gave Quinn and her dad the Bella Charlie
treatment from Twilight. And I can't get past that now
because he definitely gives Charlie vibes, but like a little
smarter and like cooler, you know.
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So I don't know, like I just didn't get that vibe from him
when I was reading the book. So they changed quite a bit of
it and then they they didn't really focus too much on those
commentary issues. Like one of the things was, I
really do love how they adapted Quinn's character on screen.
She still gives. I think she's just a total final
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girl, honestly. Like you said, the fact that
she's willing to step on anothergirl to save herself, like that
final girl energy at its finest,you know?
But in the book she actually uses a gun and she kills 2
clowns I think. I think she uses the shotgun.
And she talks in detail in thosescenes about how like her whole
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life she's been so anti guns andwhen the moment came, she didn't
even think twice about pulling the trigger.
And so there's a lot of things and commentary you get from
Quinn herself where even in the very beginning.
So the sheriff is also very different and he's very cringe
from the beginning. Like you just know this is a
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Trump supporting sheriff becausethey made him kind of nice.
Like you knew something was up or I'm not sure.
Did you know something was up from the beginning?
It was like, yeah, one of the, Ididn't know if he was like a red
herring, like, oh, it's the cop.So they're trying to like make
him look like he's like a bad cop or something.
So yeah, I did feel a little a little off with him.
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OK, yeah, so he's straight up cringe horrible from the very
beginning. And like Quinn immediately hates
that he calls her sweetheart. And I feel like they didn't.
That's the one thing from directing that I have notes on
was they briefly showed her likekind of make a face about it.
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But I feel like they could have done a better job in that scene
of showcasing, like, him callingher sweetheart and her being,
like, disgusted by it. Disgusted.
Yeah. And I was really glad they saved
it by her saying that line at the end.
I think she says something like,I'm not your sweetheart when she
kills him. Yeah.
So they saved it. But I don't know, Like, I really
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loved how the book went all in on that commentary, even though
I don't normally like being reminded of Trump either.
But I don't know. I just was, like, I couldn't get
past it. And they did save it at the end.
Like if they had not included the generation theme, I was
going to be really mad because the front half of the movie, I
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kept feeling like they should have just done a different
movie. But they wanted to capitalize on
the IP of the book is what it felt like.
So now coming out of it, seeing it better, like I understand and
I totally respect your point on like, I don't want to be
reminded of those things becauseI'm the same way and I don't
want to make horror that remindspeople either.
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So I understand why they did it.It's just, I don't know.
I think I really need to see it again honestly, to know how I
really felt about it. Yeah, it's just hard when you're
expecting something and then it's a total left turn.
Yeah. But yeah, it's I feel like, like
I said before, we have to go in this these movies like it's like
a different multiverse, different timeline of this
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storyline, I guess for. Sure.
And I think that'll make it moreenjoyable.
But that is really interesting that it kind of goes deeper into
kind of like mega and the whole political thing happening.
So maybe maybe I'll because I'm sure they're going to, there's
going to be more movies if they can't just not make one, right.
So I'm sure they'll make more movies.
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So maybe, I don't know, after they make all the movies, I'll
go back and listen to the books and see.
That's true. So it doesn't cloud your movie
judge. Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That makes sense.
And then the other thing I did want to note too was the book
actually. So like, the sheriff is
obviously bad and there's a mayor who they didn't have in
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this movie, right? I don't think they did.
So there's a mayor character. Yeah, He was in the movie, I
mean, in the book. And he is very clearly, like
trying to find a middle ground between everyone.
But the adults are obviously, like, overpowering him.
So they have a meeting about thekids and they're like, it's out
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of control. I think it might be after the
parade scene, which also changed, but I'm not going to
waste time talking about it. And the sheriff basically says,
like, this has gotten out of control and it's time for us to
all start acting as, I don't remember how he phrases it and I
couldn't find like, the right term.
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But he basically says that he wants to in, like, enlist or
certify civilians to act as copsnow.
And the mayor's like, not reallyon board with that, but he's
like, I really need to get like,elected again.
So I'm going to try to buy into it.
And then the sheriff is like, you're not allowed as a mayor,
Like it's illegal and kicks him out.
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And that's kind of the part in the book immediately that gives
away that it's them that are theclowns.
But it's very, very detailed andlike how all of this, the city
is like really fed up with them.Even the like teacher scene in
the beginning is way more intense, like super intense.
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So and those kind of moments, I feel like I understand why they
were cut and changed from a screen writing and pasting
perspective, but I feel like allof the motive of why they did
this to the kids was lost in themovie.
Yeah, I see that because it justseems like, like you said, in
the classroom scene. So I'm sure like you said, more
things happen in the classroom scene.
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They're just being annoying teenagers.
So I'm like, OK, that's not a real reason to want to kill all
of your students. But yeah, I can see that
perspective, like saying the motive was lacking because
nothing really, really happened.They just burned down a clown in
the parade and bully the teacherin the classroom.
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So yeah, I'm very interested nowto see like, what the book
started with and like what made it the older generation so
angry. Yeah, sorry, I feel like I'm
talking so much about the book, but I don't know.
I was just really, really hung up on a lot of things and I, I'm
really going to go see it again because I want to enjoy it.
It was really fun. And then the last thing I will
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add about the book and differences.
This was a very hot topic for people in the bookish community.
Janet was supposed to be Asian, yes.
And I found it very shocking because the book is so woke.
Like the message is woke. And then they cast a white girl
for this role. She did a great job, honestly.
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Like I was like, I forgive it because she was funny, but I
couldn't get past it. I was just like, why would you
change that in like this type ofstory?
And when I found out, I was alsolike, Dang, are they going to
change the whole story? Like if they're going that
route, and I do want to say thatI don't think she's Asian, but
when I was reading the book, allI could picture was the sister
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from Lisa Frankenstein I. Don't remember her?
You don't remember her? She's she kind of looks Asian.
She's not. I think she might be Hispanic,
but she has like the short hair and I don't know if she's the
sister or the best friend. I think she's the step sister.
Maybe it yeah, maybe it was the step sister.
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I can't picture her face but OK.Yeah, you'll have to look her
up, but that's who I pictured isJanet, so I don't know, but
that's my last. I'm gonna stop talking about the
book now. No, no, I really wanted to hear
your perspective from, like, coming from the book.
But yeah, it's just hard when you have, like, expectations and
they're just not. I know.
So I get it and I'm there with you.
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Yeah, But I guess did you go into the casting and the
characters? I really liked the whole group.
I thought they all had their unique personalities.
And it was, for me, very reminiscent of like a classic
horror movie, like kind of like Scream.
So you had like the jocks, the nerds, and then you had like the
sexy best friend so and the shady boyfriend saying you kind
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of were just like guessing like,OK, maybe is it one of the
friends that is actually killingall the friends?
So I don't know. For some reason it just kept
throwing me back to like Scream vibes for me.
I thought I really loved all thecharacters.
Like even if they were kind of like annoying, like obviously in
the classroom, like, Oh my gosh,these kids are so annoying and
just the way they would talk. But I think the most annoying
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character was Ronnie because shewas like just complaining the
whole time. But I also feel like that would
be me in a horror movie to play me that it's too hot or it's too
cold or that I was hungry. But yeah, I think I think
everybody was casted well. But now that I know that the
main character was supposed to be Asian, now I'm like OK, that
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is kind of kind of weird. Wait, sorry, not the main
character, Janet. Sorry, Janet.
Sorry, now that Janet. OK, Yeah, yeah, was supposed to.
Be yeah, I don't know, it was weird.
I also really liked Rust from the beginning.
I thought he was so cute. And I really loved that the gay
characters in this movie weren'tthe butt of the jokes.
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Like, they were just gay and they weren't poking fun at a gay
stereotype of like a flamboyant gay person and making that like,
oh, that's funny, huh? So I really loved that they did
a different approach to gay characters.
Yeah, for sure. I agree 100%.
I think the cast did really well, you see, And it's funny
because you brought up that you were wondering if it was one of
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the friends. And at no point was that part of
my experience with the movies because I knew.
But it's something I've heard from a lot of other reviewers.
I've heard like really positive things, honestly, from everyone
that's reviewed it that hasn't seen the book.
Everyone has really actually mentioned the cast and Quinn
specifically about how she was just a really likable main lead
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character. And I actually really liked
Ronnie, surprisingly. I, I don't typically like those
characters, but I thought she was funny.
And then I want to share something funny that happened at
the theatre. So you know how she says like
this means I'm next or whatever and then she literally is the
next one. And I told Rudy like, oh,
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foreshadowing. And he was like, no Boo, she
manifested. He laughs so hard in the
theatre. That's.
Good. So it was funny.
But yeah, I really liked everyone.
Even Cole. I really, really liked his
character in the book, and I wasn't sold when I saw the
casting for him. But even throughout the movie he
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just won me over. Like, I don't feel there was
anyone in the cast I didn't likeexcept the sheriff and Cole's
dad. Which, by the way, is it just me
or did his dad kind of look likeElon Musk?
Yeah, it's that actor. I think he's been in something
else and now I'm like, I always like when I see him.
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I'm like, that's, that's Elon Musk.
I wonder if that was intentionalto be honest.
I think I was thinking the same thing.
I was like, I wonder if they casted him because he looks like
Elon Musk and then they put him in clown makeup or in makeup to
make it look like a A bash of him and Trump.
I don't know. It was, it was.
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Yeah, interesting choices. And I wonder if that was on
purpose. Yeah, for sure, because I
couldn't get past that. I think that was the only thing
in the movie that I couldn't like that was kind of taking me
out. I was like, he looks like Elon
Musk because I hadn't seen him before.
But yeah, I loved the cast. Yeah, me too.
I can't complain about any of the cast.
I love them all. OK, so let's get into the fun
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part of the kills and the scares.
Yeah, so I thought the kills were great.
I loved that each kill was pretty unique.
I don't think 1 kill was the same thing.
Like they all died in different ways.
There was like the crossbow killing where the guy got shot
with an arrow in the head, and the chainsaw kill, they're just
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running in the cornfield and like the clown just like guts
over in the stomach. That was crazy.
And then the pitchfork. So yeah, I love that.
It was like a variety of different kills with different
weapons. And I, like you said before the
movie wasn't really scary, but but I feel like the setting in
the cornfield was kind of like the scary part, Like you don't
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know when somebody's going to pop out and get you.
And it didn't have a lot of jumpscares.
And I don't feel like it needed it.
I think it was just, I don't know.
I thought it was just good the way they balanced everything.
What about you? Yeah, I like how they used the
jack-in-the-box thing. Is that what it's called?
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The little jack-in-the-box trinket thing was kind of like
the jump scare, because I think the first time it kind of got me
a little bit. But I really enjoyed the kills.
I really liked, I forgot what his name was, but the guy that
was lifting weights, I really liked that kill.
Oh my God. And I loved when the girls were
playing with the head. So there's a part where one of
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the friends is he's like doing. Is it called like a bar?
I don't know what it's called with.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
A bench press, I couldn't remember.
I was like, I can't remember. What?
It's called Yeah. So he's doing a bench press and
then Friendo comes over him and puts like a tool, I don't know,
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some. Yeah.
So he connects it under the bench press and then pushes it
down on him. So it like, cuts his head off.
And then later, when the kids are at this, like, bonfire party
or barn party that they're having, Friendo throws the they
like before chaos ensues and they know there's a killer
clown. They throw the head out at the
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kids and I do think that this was clever from like how they
changed it that the kids are always doing like fake videos
about friendo being a killer. So they throw the head and then
the girls pick it up and start tossing it around thinking it's
fake and like one of the friendsset them up for a video and then
they realize it's real. I thought it was kind of silly
how they just like immediately believed Quinn when she's like
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she's not breathing or he's not breathing.
I forget who got killed. I thought that was one of my
favorite parts is like, when do you see girls just like tossing
a head around? And then they're like, they just
like freak out when they realizeit's real blood.
So I really loved that part. And then I really, really liked
the scene where Quinn killed thesheriff because you never really
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see that happen. She used like, some kind of, was
it like a Taser or some kind of electrocution thing in his
mouth? Yeah.
So he stuck. She stuck it in his mouth.
And then you just saw, like, hiswhole head light up.
It was really cool. Like, that was my favorite part,
especially because, like, she said the line afterwards about
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the whole sweetheart. So yeah, I think it's fun that
there were so many killers that they all had their own style,
which is what brought that like,uniqueness to the film.
For sure. I love the surprise because it
was a surprise to me that it wasmultiple people and they all
walked out and I was like, Oh myGod, this is so cool.
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Like I was like so giddy and happy when they all like walked
out of the corner. It was like multiples of them
and they start chasing the kids.But yeah, it was just so stupid
with the tossing the head around.
But like I did, I wasn't mad that it was stupid.
I was like, this is really funny.
So yeah, I felt the same way. I was just so happy and giddy
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throughout the whole movie. That's funny.
Yeah, I I think this is one of the few times that I regret
being prepared and reading the book.
Yeah. Because I didn't get that
experience of like, not knowing that it wasn't one of the
friends or that there weren't more than that.
There was more than one killer. So yeah, I'm gonna go watch it
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tonight. That's a cold down the theater
and just when you watch it, I love that.
You should do. It.
Yeah, for sure. All right.
What about what were your thoughts on the practical
effects versus CGI in this film?I feel like if they had CGI,
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they kind of hit it really well.Maybe like some parts where they
kind of shot like body parts offor when they chopped the head
off and the head just kind of like rolled off.
I guess that might have been CGI, but I loved all the
practical effects of the blood. One example is when Rust uses a
shotgun to shoot off one of the hands of someone dressed as
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Friendo, and the blood, just like is squirting, exaggerated
out. And that was, I don't know, I
loved it. That was pretty cool.
But yeah, I didn't really noticeany CGI and I think that was a
good decision. Yeah, for sure.
I actually, I am ashamed to say this as a filmmaker quotation
mark, but I never really know the difference.
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Like I'm not aware of when CGI is being used or not.
So I feel like I need to do my homework on that.
But overall I feel like they dida good job.
Like it just kind of felt like aclap.
Like it honestly really gave modern slasher vibes because I
feel like we don't get a lot of actual slashers anymore.
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Yeah, it did feel like a modern slasher, but with, I don't know,
like sprinkles of like classic horror movie, if that makes any.
Sense, yes, yeah, for sure. I agree.
OK. Then we have themes and
symbolism, which I feel like we kind of touched on already, but
I know you have a lot more. Yeah, I kind of touched on it
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earlier where it's just a battlebetween generations, which is
very current. What's going on in our current
political climate, specifically with the Democratic Party, with,
you know, the younger Democrats coming into play and kind of at
battle with the older Democrats,kind of just like a battle for
power. And I thought that was like, the
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perfect, I guess, metaphor, I guess you can say, of when the
dad was showing Quinn how to drive stick shift.
Like, yeah, we still need the older generation to give us
guidance and kind of like, pointus in the right direction.
But I feel like we're at the wheel now, Like the working
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class is like a different generation from what it was
before. And I just feel like we just all
need to grow and adapt to this new world and have our
leadership represent us and not only look like us but also be of
the current generation. But yeah.
That's good. That's a good take away and I'm
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glad that you kind of got that even though they pulled back so
much, because I think that was obviously my biggest, I guess I
don't know how to call it. My biggest fight with the film
was just that they pulled back so much on the point of the
book. But again, I feel like they just
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struck the perfect balance. And I've heard that from a lot
of people, too. Like it was commentary, but it
wasn't so on the nose that it took you out of the film.
So I'm glad that the point was still there for people who
didn't read the book. Exactly.
Yeah, Yeah, No, I got it. But like you said, it wasn't so
on the nose that I was like thinking about it during the
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movie. It was something that I was like
thinking about after the movie. Yeah, for sure.
Well, while we wrap things up, Ido have one negative thing about
the film, and it has nothing to do with the book, surprisingly.
But the music was pretty bad. Mr. Spooks and I always talk
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about we watch a lot of like, obviously tons of movies, but we
watch Netflix films sometimes and we're like, this is a really
good movie, but something about it still makes it feel like not
a theatrical release. And he told me, do you know what
it is? And I was like, no.
And he's like, they use stock music.
And I was like, oh, that's true.Because you know, when like
music's like real popular music.So they did not use popular
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music at all. And I was hyper aware of that.
But then I also heard Spooky Astronauts, who's like a horror
reviewer on YouTube even said she felt like the music sounded
like AI music. And I can't get past that
because it just didn't sound like real music.
I feel like the music was the only thing about the film that
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kind of like reduced its quality.
Interesting. Yeah, I guess I didn't really
pick up on that. I mean, I did pick up that it
wasn't real music. I'm like, oh, this is like
made-up pop songs that they're putting in this movie.
But I also think it's because, Idon't know, maybe because it
wasn't made by a, by a like a big, big production company.
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Because. When it first started, it's
Shutter, which is like the live streaming.
So yeah, maybe that's why it felt like a Netflix movie,
because it was made by Shutter and I feel like Shutter is even
smaller than Netflix, I would think.
I don't. Know.
Yeah, for sure. So I don't know, I guess I did
notice it, but it didn't really bother me.
But it does make sense that theythey used stock music because
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it's a smaller production company.
I don't know. I don't know how things.
Work. Yeah, Yeah.
No, for sure. I don't.
I don't know. I don't think it actually ruined
the well, I mean, I do think it brought the quality down a
little, but it did not feel likea Netflix film.
And I think this is my last notebefore I ask you if you have any
final notes. I was surprised by the quality
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of the film to be honest, because when I heard that it was
the book being made, I was like,oh, it's been picked up by this
huge production company then because it's a big popular
horror book. So then when I found out the
production companies that were making it, I was like, I'm kind
of worried like, what if it turns out to be like Terrifier
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quality style, you know? And so it was kind of like the
same as with Rosario. Like I went in expecting indie
quality and I was actually pleasantly surprised that it
felt like a full production other than the music.
Yeah, interesting. Yeah, I don't know that really
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just didn't bother. Well, I guess to give some
background, I love watching B horror movie like B horror
movies like things on Toby, justlike random things on Shutter.
So I don't know, maybe that justdidn't face me because I kind of
enjoy that kind of. Production kind of movie, Yeah,
that's funny. But also I guess my final wrap
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up, I guess the one thing I haven't talked about was the
ending. I actually really liked the
ending. It kind of left it open to your
interpretation. Kind of like, oh is friendo all
not dead? That they all not die?
Or was this like another practical joke that somebody
left a jack-in-the-box in her car or actually left too?
I guess I'm assuming college. So yeah, I kind of like the
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ending. I left it open to add summer
movies. Yeah, for sure.
What I noticed too was, I don't remember if this was in the book
or not, but they didn't kill Cole's dad.
They didn't kill Elon because doesn't he get away with right
before they save Cole? I'm pretty sure.
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So yeah, that's what I felt was cool.
Yeah, cool. So no more.
Fine. That's your final note.
Final. Note All right, go stairs.
It's time for it's freaking bats.
On a scale of one to five, how many bats would you rate this
film Rabbit? OK, this might be controversial
(51:13):
but it's OK. I watched this movie and was
enjoying it the whole time I left the movie and I was so
happy and I had gave me well, obviously not the exact same
feeling as sinners, but I left the movie feeling like that was
such a good movie. Like obviously different themes,
(51:35):
like they're completely different movies, but I left
both of those movies feeling good of what I just watched.
So I think I'm going to give a clown in a cornfield 5 bats.
Dang, wow, that's impressive. I know this is a hot take but I
I loved it. I don't think it's a hot take.
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I'm really surprised though because I legit left thinking
like I had fun and usually when I have fun that means that you
thought the movie Saw. We usually have opposite
opinions. Yeah, that's.
True Yeah Wow, that's crazy. Well, I am gonna give it 3 bats.
That might change after I see itagain, but I don't know like I
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had a ton of fun, genuinely likeI don't think it was a bad film,
but I also I think I just need to watch it again because I
don't know if like is it really sinners quality?
I don't like what it took to make sinners versus clown in a
cornfield is very different. Yes.
(52:40):
So I just can't like sinners is the standard for A5 for me now
so. Yeah, I get.
Yeah, I'm not saying that this is the production and everything
is as good as Sinners, but I feel like when you watch movies
or, or else when I watch horror movies or any movie is I have to
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feel something when I'm watchingit.
And even though they're completely different movies, I
just felt good watching the movie and I felt good after the
movie. So it just, I don't know, it
just all worked for me. Yeah, no, that is perfectly fair
and valid. I'm happy you liked it honestly.
And we might need to do like a re a redo on this episode later
(53:24):
when I'm past all of my feelingssince.
You processed everything. Yeah.
OK. And before we part ways for the
week, we have a little moment ofBe Kind Rewind.
We're all about the vibes here, so if this film hit just right,
here are a few spooky pics you can rewind to to match the mood,
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the madness or the mayhem, but we actually don't have anymore.
I know we were talking about this earlier, like, do you have
anything for becoming wine? And I'm like, no.
And you're like, I don't have anything either.
I just feel like there's nothing.
It doesn't feel like it's copying anything.
I mean, it's referencing a couple things here and there,
(54:07):
but there's nothing like it. I feel out right now and if
there is, definitely let us knowbecause I I'm down to watch it,
but it just feels like it's something fresh.
Definitely. Yeah, for sure.
I think if anything, kind of like what we said earlier, I
know we're going to rewind to more from the director because I
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heard so many people, all of thehorror reviewers that I like to
watch said that as soon as they knew the guy who did, Oh my God,
I for I think it's Dale and Tucker.
They were all in on clown in a cornfield.
And overall it's the first horror film I've seen where like
all the reviewers are in a consensus that they liked the
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film. A lot of them are saying like,
no, it's not the next Terrifier and it's not the best film ever,
but everyone, like nobody reallyhad feedback for it, which is
crazy. And why I'm kind of surprised
about the rating that you shared, the audience rating,
because I'm like everyone loved it.
How is it a 68? And I'm like, it's probably all
(55:11):
the book people that have lowered.
The people that have different expectations.
But yeah, when I watch a horror movie, I'm like, I wish they
would have changed this. I wish they would have changed
that. And that's what reduces my
reading for me. But like, I have no notes.
It's like, I'm like, I don't know.
What a time. I did a good job.
But yes, I agree. We can't rewind for Eli Craig.
(55:33):
We'll go over and watch his old stuff.
Yeah, for sure. That would be cool.
We should do an like a retro episode on that sometime when we
have time, for sure. All right, Ghosters, we hope you
had a bloody good time hanging out with us today.
Final Destination Bloodlines is popping into theaters this
weekend, so we'll see you here next Monday with our freshly
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Slash. OK, finally an easy round.
I think so. Well, it was easy to create and
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I think I'll be good with with my choosings, our choices.
So we have Pennywise and I I'm thinking I'll give a Co host
choice of which one you would like to go with.
Which version, Terrifier and Friendo do you want to go first?
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Yeah, I'll go first. OK.
I guess for Pennywise, I'll go with Bill Skarsgard.
Is that the doctor? I think that's it.
I'll bone Pennywise slash Terrifier for sure.
He's he's creepy. He's creeps me out like even
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before I saw the movie and I would see people wearing that
costume around Midsummer scream.It would terrify me.
So I don't I don't like him. He could, he could die.
And I guess I'll marry Friendo because I'll get into it later.
I love the movie. What about you?
OK, interesting. I would slash Terra Fire for
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sure 'cause he's also gross on top of gory I guess.
Or like. Yeah, he is.
Horror bone friendo and marry their original Pennywise.
It has my heart. That's fair, That's fair.
All right. And I actually don't have any
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haunted housekeeping for you guys today, so we will get right
into how we're keeping the spookalive.
It's alive, it's alive. All right, Rabbit, how are you
keeping the spook alive? All right, so this week we did a
little bit of spooky things. Last night we went to Fan Fest
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at Universal Studios and that was really fun.
It was more nostalgic than spooky, but we did meet the
Witches of Oz, so we did meet Alphaba and we did meet Glenda.
So I guess that counts as spooky, right?
Yes, definitely. Oh my God that's so cool.
I haven't seen anything about them on my social media feed
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yet. How do they look?
They look pretty good. Yeah.
I think they weren't advertised in the beginning because when I
booked the tickets, I didn't seeWicked part of the like the cast
or like the meet and greets. And then like a week before the
1st fan fest started, they posted something on Tiktok or
Instagram and pretty much sayinglike, oh, you meet a greet with
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Alphabet and Glenda. So that was really exciting
because I actually got those tickets for Michael's birthday.
So it was nice that there's likea little extra addition to like
his birthday present. But yeah, they come out
separately, so they wasn't like you can't meet them both at the
same time. They like switch off.
But they looked really good. The costumes were really good.
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The wig was really good on Glenda.
Like the dress was pretty big too.
So yeah, it was. It was pretty cool.
That's cool. I can't.
Do you have pictures? I'm like why didn't?
You say I didn't post those pictures because we switched
phones. Michael, I switched on.
So he has some pictures on his phone and then I have some
pictures and those are the pictures that I posted on my
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Instagram. So I just have to get those
pictures from him and then I could post them on Instagram and
show you. OK, cool.
Yeah, I haven't seen any so I'm curious.
Cool, not bad. I wouldn't complain about a day
at Universal. Oh yeah, but it was really hot.
And that was that was part of also the spookiness because it
was extremely hot. It was like non-stop sweating.
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And also another thing we it doesn't start till 7:00 and we
wanted to eat at Universal. And I guess part of the
spookiness was me because I was in a bad mood when we first got
there because from if I don't have dinner between like 5:30 to
6:30, like I need to eat within that time window.
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And if I don't, I get really grumpy.
So I definitely started off pretty spooky at the beginning,
but then after I ate, I was fine.
But yeah, it was a fun night. So hopefully they do more and
they have different themes and different characters that you
can meet. But how did you keep this book
alive? I was trying to think I was
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like, I feel like I didn't do anything.
But then I remembered we had ourfirst film fest for our short
film, The Night Father Came Home.
And so those film fests are likeshort, kind of like half days
for this Film Festival that we were in.
And it's always really cool for me because we get to see like,
what other indie film makers have created and just like, hang
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out with other film makers. But it was really exciting.
Like, I think it was the first time that I finally, finally
realized, like, we're our own worst critics.
And like, what we did did matter.
And like, other people can't do it, even though we're like,
well, it was just fan fiction. So it was really nice to just be
like up there and have people asking us actual questions
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because we were like, no one's going to have questions for us.
Like it's just a little 2 minutewhatever, you know?
So it was very eye opening and motivating to just be like, OK,
I'm I'm so like hungry to just start our next one.
I'm on the final draft now and Ijust feel like I've been working
a lot. Honestly, today it finally hit
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me. I feel like I'm going to be very
scatterbrained on this episode. So I apologize to everyone but I
if you haven't seen I have a newvideo or like series called the
Haunted Lion on my YouTube channel and behind the scenes
has not been the best experience.
Me and Mr. Spooks joke today that the Salem witch trials
video was cursed because like anything that could go wrong
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with it did go wrong with it. We actually had to refilm it.
So I had just finished like getting it out just now.
We had sound issues, we had corrupt files like everything.
It was like the video just did not want to come out.
So I've just been working reallyhard on that behind the scenes
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and I've been enjoying it a lot.I thought that I was just going
to do like quick research for these stories, but then I got
really invested in this one and I spent so much time like
watching so many videos about Salem and I felt like every
emotion possible over the last week because I started out being
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fully transparent because I feellike I can't do that on this
platform. I kind of get kind of icky about
like the way people treat Salem now sometimes because I'm like,
we kind of pretend that like nothing bad happened there and
just it's all the witchy fun vibes.
And like I, I started out that way and then by the end I was
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like, no, there is like so many reasons that we should celebrate
it and be there. And I want to go more than ever
now, but I had a lot of emotions.
And then like, even one of the times we did film, it didn't
make it because the footage got corrupt.
But I even had a point where, like, I had to stop and just
like, not let myself feel because I was, like, going to
start crying. And I was like, that's not the
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vibe of this video. Like, I don't want to be crying
on this series, but I have felt so many things over the last
week. And I was like, OK, I don't know
if this series is a good idea because it's all about women.
And so yeah, it's been, I feel like I've been a mess.
And I'm sorry if I'm all over the place today.
No, no, it's you're right. I mean, it's yeah, it's you
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think of it and it's like, oh, fun spooky vibes.
But then you when you actually started like researching like,
oh, this is like really dark history.
Like what happened here was kindof like a massacre in a way.
But yeah, I feel the same way with other spooky things.
Like last night we were at Fan Fest and some guy was had like a
sweater of like the Manson guy and I'm like why are we
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glorifying him? Like why are you having?
Yeah. That on like, yes, it's like
interesting to learn about that stuff and like watch the TV
shows and like find what happened or the movies or
whatever. But to like glorify him and like
a have like a cool cap on him, like a snap back on him and have
him like on your clothes. I don't know.
It's kind of icky to me. So yeah, I get where you're
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coming from. Yeah, for sure.
And I, I've always struggled with true crime too because I'm
like, well, I don't want to likelean in, like capitalize off of
it. So I don't know.
I'm curious to see how people respond to this video because I
feel like it's not what's typically talked about in the
community when it's like Salem content.
But I'm hoping people like it because I also feel like for me,
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I love spooky vibes, but I also just feel like knowing the
history of all the things we love is really important too.
So we'll see. My vision for the series was
always to like have a mixture oflike spooky ghost stories and
then some history and then some,like pop culture origins, those
kind of things. But I think it's just going to
depend on like how people respond to each of them to see
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like where the series goes. But we'll see.
Thank you for your patience withme though because I know that I
have not been the best Co host this past week.
No, you're fine. I get it.
I get the struggle. So you're good and I'm excited
to watch the videos. I love like Dark History and Cor
History so it sounds like a goodtime.
Yeah, for sure. All right, Ghosters, it's time
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for the spoiler pack segment of the show.
So if you don't want any spoilers, this is your warning
to pause and come back once you've seen the movie.
What popped into theaters this week?
Rabbit. All righty, So this week, Clown
in a Cornfield dropped into theaters.
I'm going to start with the Rotten Tomatoes Tomato Eater.
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It is actually a certified freshmovie, but it has an audience
rating of 68%, which I get it, Ithink it should be higher, but I
get it. So the synopsis that I got from
Bloody Disgusting is Quinn and her father moved to a tiny
boring kettle springs to find a fresh start.
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But when they don't, what they don't know is that ever since
the Bay Pen corn syrup factory shut down, Kettle Springs was
cracked in half. On one side are the adults who
are desperate to make Kettle Springs great again, and on the
other are the kids who want to have fun, make prank videos, and
get out as quick as they can. Kettle Springs is caught in a
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battle between old and new, tradition and progress.
It's a fight that looks like it will destroy the town until a
friend of the Bay Pen mascot, a creepy clown, goes on a
homicidal rampage and decides that the only way for Kettle
Springs to grow back as to Cole,the rotten crop of kids who live
there now. So let's take a quick little
summary, but then to go into theextended summary in case you
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haven't seen the movie or you just need like a refresher, I'm
going to go into more detail here in super spoilers.
So to go go further on that friendo turns out to not to be a
singular clown. It turned out to be the older
generation of people trying to cleanse the younger generation
from the town, which is actuallya tradition in that specific
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town because they've actually done this before with previous
generations, like the hippies inthe 70s and then I guess like
the stoners in the 90s and so onand so forth.
So whatever they don't agree with, they just try to like kill
them off in that town. Luckily, the main characters in
this generation are able to escape, but not without losing a
couple of friends along the way.It was a lot of cast, so I'm
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going to go with the like the top two.
There's just like so many peoplein here that I don't even
recognize. But I did love all the cast.
It was directed by Eli Craig, which is the, when I was looking
into it, director of Zombieland,the TV series, which is pretty
cool. And then we have Katie Douglas,
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who played Quinn, and we have Carson McCormack as Cole.
And like I said, there's a lot more people in this movie, but
it'll just be a long list of saying names.
But yeah. Cool.
Yeah, there is a lot of details with this film, I feel.
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Yes. Well, I want to get your first
initial reactions because you did not read the book.
Yeah, I feel like it was a good thing I did not read the book.
I think it's like the opposite, like you and me how I felt about
Until Dawn. I was like, this is not Until
Dawn and then you're like, this is not Connor Kerfield.
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But I love this movie. It really felt like this was
like the the Gen. Z scream in a way.
It was self aware and it had some really funny moments, but
really crazy kills. So I thought it was really,
really good. And I feel like this is what
hell of a Summer was trying to do.
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But they Connor Carfield just did it better.
What are your first impressions?No, I love that.
I felt the same way as far as the hell of a summer thing.
So I did read the book. I am not.
I've obviously had a lot going on.
So I feel like I didn't like, I didn't fully listen to it.
It was like when I had time I would throw it on.
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But I caught enough that I kind of had a whiplash going into the
movie because it, I think when Iwas listening to the book, I
could really envision it as a movie.
And then that's what I expected going in.
And they changed a lot about thebook that the whole time I was
just trying to figure out, like,did I misunderstand the book or
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did they completely change this?So I really did enjoy it.
Like, by the end, it was good enough that I was forgiving.
It was different, but I didn't get to enjoy it.
And now hearing your review, I actually really want to go back
and watch it a second time to like, enjoy it for what it is.
Yeah, I feel like for movies like this now that we both kind
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of had this experience, I feel like going forward we need to
know to throw everything out thedoor that we know and just go
into like movies or the a familiar movie or familiar story
and just go in with like AI don't know a fresh mind and not
like bringing what you already know about that story into the
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movie. Because yeah, I, it is
frustrating when you go in and, you know, like some things and
you're like, wait, this is not what happens.
And it's kind of like distracting because you're
thinking of like, what is happening?
And you're like, are they going to get to this point in the book
or are they going to do this? So it kind of like makes you
start thinking and take you awayfrom the movie.
So yeah, I get it. Yeah, for sure.
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I have many regrets about how I handled the movie, but yeah, all
right. I really loved what you had
mentioned to me about the tone and atmosphere, so I would love
to hear your thoughts first. Set the vibe for everyone.
Yeah, so I thought the tone and the atmosphere for this movie
was perfect for me. It gave crazy slasher vibes, but
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also cool, gory moments, but also really funny moments.
So it was like a little bit here, a little bit there, and I
was like, I'm loving this. If I had to pick one scene that
perfectly describes this movie, it's the scene where Janet gets
killed, and that's the stereotypical popular girl.
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So they're in the house that they're hiding out in and she
gets stabbed by a pitchfork by Friendo and she gets pushed into
the ceiling and starts getting electric electrocuted by the
lamp and the ceiling, which is crazy.
And then she falls on the ground.
And then Queen kind of just likepulls out the pitchfork and like
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steps on her to get it out and then goes in to stab the clown
or to to stab Friendo. So she's able to kill Friendo,
but she pulled the pitchfork outof Janet.
So obviously she's bleeding out and dying.
So while she's dying, Janet withher last dying words, it's like,
I hate you, Quinn. And then the clown or friendo
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says, me too. And I thought that was like the
funniest thing. And I thought it was just like,
so perfect. Like what this movie is.
It's gory, it's funny and a little crazy.
Yeah, for sure, I have. I completely agree.
I really feel like they balancedhorror and comedy and commentary
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extremely well in this film. I think that's partly why I was
upset because they pulled back alot on the commentary.
But they struck the perfect balance at the same time, so I
don't know. I really enjoyed it.
Like I said, I was so upset about the changes, but the movie
was so fun that by the end I just couldn't ignore how fun it
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was. Like it was like a Mandy Spook's
fun watch. There was number part that was
too slow, there was enough setup, everything.
But I really loved that the horror and comedy were really
well balanced. I also want to say for those who
are not into like, really scary movies, this movie's not scary
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at all. It's like just all fun.
Like there's no jump scares. It's not needed.
Even the gore I would say, like,I don't know that it's super
gory, but it's still just enoughto make it a real slasher.
Yeah, I even feel like the gory is a little silly, like it adds
to the comedy because it's like very like exaggerating,
squirting blood everywhere. So yeah, it's definitely not
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gory in in a way where it's likea body horror movie, but more of
like a bloody, I don't know, shooting blood everywhere, kind
of like fun. Yeah, for sure.
And then as far as the balance goes, I feel like it kind of
goes into like the direction on my end, the whole like balancing
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the comedy in horror. I feel like major kudos to the
director because I can't. We kind of said this with
Rosario that like the directing fell short because they didn't
like get her to like say the lines right or anything.
And in this one, I feel like sometimes when comedy and horror
is done, it is really corny and then it like takes you out of
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it. But in these, they were so well
done that like, you laughed and loved it, but it only like
brought you into the movie more versus like reminding you like,
oh, this isn't a real horror movie movie.
We're throwing in a cheesy line on it, you know, So I feel like
the directing was really good inthat sense that every single
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line was delivered like just right.
And I feel like that also just goes to kudos to the cast too.
But that's really what stuck outto me more.
Like I didn't even really have notes about the cinematography
because like everything was justdone so well that nothing stuck
out. But like that's proof that it
was good because I know for surewhen like I don't like the
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cinematography, it bothers me and those kind of things.
So everything was just. A really nice.
Yeah, I do feel like even when they were saying funny things,
like in a really traumatic setting, it felt believable.
I'm like, Oh yeah, I guess a kid, a teenager would say
something stupid like that. But yeah, I agree, It didn't
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really Take Me Out. It kind of just added to the fun
Ness of this movie to go back into more of like the direction
and the cinematography. Like I said before, the
director, I also did Zombieland,the TV show, but I've never,
I've never seen the TV show, butI have seen the movie and it
made total sense to me because that's kind of how Zombieland
is. It's super gory, but it's also
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super stupid. So I was like, OK, that, that
really, that really makes sense of why I, I like, really like
them because I really like Zombieland.
So yeah, I think I'm a, I'm a huge fan of you like Craig now.
So I might go back and watch theTV series of Zombieland.
And then you had mentioned another movie too, that he had
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directed our TV show or something that I might check out
too. Yeah, the Tucker and Dale versus
evil. I think I didn't even know about
the Zombieland show because everyone was talking about the
movie. So I think we both have
homework. Yeah, I had never heard of that
Tucker movie or so. I just learned about it when I
was researching for the podcast.So yeah, I need to check that
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out too. Cool.
All right, Well, now we have arrived to the part that I feel
like I'm going to have the most to say about, but I want you to
go first because it's all about the writing and pacing.
And I want to share kind of likewith Until Dawn, I want to share
the like what changed compared to the book.
Oh yeah, yeah. OK, yeah, that's exciting
because yeah, I have no idea what happened in the book.
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I haven't seen anything about it, but I guess I'll get into my
thing first. So I thought the writing was
great. The pacing was perfect.
Like I never felt bored. Like it started really good and
then there would be like some dialogue, some story, and then
like something crazy would happen.
So it was a perfect mix of humorand horror.
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The storyline was cool. The motive of the kills were
clear, even though I think it's kind of like outlandish, like I
don't think that this would particularly happen, but it was
clear. I knew why they were going after
all the kids and I really like that.
It was like a push and pull of generations literally at war
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trying to coexist at the same time.
Or this like younger generation is starting to come up age and
realizing they want things to bedifferent.
And then the older generation islike, no, we want everything to
stay the same. So I thought it had a good mix
of realism and fantasy, but didn't keep it too real because
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I tend to not like when things are a little bit too real.
So I don't know if you've ever seen American Horror Story cult
that season. So that weirdly enough, also
includes clowns. Oh.
Interesting. I know it's where I was like,
wait, it's kind of the same, thekind of same storyline, but the
movie did it better. That show was just a little too
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real for me. So it was a little too like,
yeah, we're talking about Trump here.
So it was just too, I don't know, too real for me to get
into it. I was like, I'm not, I did not
enjoy that season and I will never see it again.
But this movie really did a goodjob of keeping it kind of like
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with in the current events, but still keeping it entertaining in
my in my view. This is interesting for me.
So question for you. Do you not enjoy it or like for
American Horror Story for example, is it because you don't
want to be like reminded about Trump while you're watching
horror? Yes.
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Exactly. Yeah, I don't want to think
about him. That is fair, 100%.
Same thing with the the new Daredevil show.
It's the same kind of premise where this guy Kingpin is kind
of like the Trump of the show, and he starts getting elected to
like, mayor and all this. And I'm like, this is too real.
Like this is I watch like, TV and movies to like, get away
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from reality. And when it's like, too parallel
to what's happening currently, I'm like, I'm not interested.
I lose interest. But yeah, this movie, for me, it
just did it perfectly for me. Yeah, that's really interesting
to hear because I actually so though I'm OK.
Sorry, First, are you finished? Because I have a lot to share
about the book. Yeah, I'm done.
Come back. OK, so the book is much more
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heavy on the commentary tackles like specific issues.
They'd never say Trump, but there's a certain point in the
book where they even say make kettle springs great again.
So it's like very clear and thisis kind of going to get into
like casting and characters too.But the book was very different.
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It opens with the scene of how Cole's sister dies and they're
live streaming it. So they are not creators of
Friendo in the book. I think they just create videos
about like life and having fun and stuff.
So that threw me for a spin immediately I was like what the
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heck is going on? Like in the movie they are
creating content about like I guess they're doing like fake
scares of friendo and stuff and in the book that's they're not
creating anything about the clown or anything.
It's all just like vlog style, Iguess, unless I misunderstood
that part of me also has that like, wait, did I just like not
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listen to the book enough that now I'm super confused with
everything? But I'm like nearly 99% sure it
was not about that. And so it opens on that scene
and then it jumps to Quinn moving and I don't know why.
Like I just really envisioned that like so, well, coming to
life on screen. And then Quinn's dad is actually
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really different. And I saw, I don't know his
name, but there's another YouTube reviewer who actually
said that they gave Quinn and her dad the Bella Charlie
treatment from Twilight. And I can't get past that now
because he definitely gives Charlie vibes, but like a little
smarter and like cooler, you know.
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So I don't know, like I just didn't get that vibe from him
when I was reading the book. So they changed quite a bit of
it and then they they didn't really focus too much on those
commentary issues. Like one of the things was, I
really do love how they adapted Quinn's character on screen.
She still gives. I think she's just a total final
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girl, honestly. Like you said, the fact that
she's willing to step on anothergirl to save herself, like that
final girl energy at its finest,you know?
But in the book she actually uses a gun and she kills 2
clowns I think. I think she uses the shotgun.
And she talks in detail in thosescenes about how like her whole
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life she's been so anti guns andwhen the moment came, she didn't
even think twice about pulling the trigger.
And so there's a lot of things and commentary you get from
Quinn herself where even in the very beginning.
So the sheriff is also very different and he's very cringe
from the beginning. Like you just know this is a
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Trump supporting sheriff becausethey made him kind of nice.
Like you knew something was up or I'm not sure.
Did you know something was up from the beginning?
It was like, yeah, one of the, Ididn't know if he was like a red
herring, like, oh, it's the cop.So they're trying to like make
him look like he's like a bad cop or something.
So yeah, I did feel a little a little off with him.
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OK, yeah, so he's straight up cringe horrible from the very
beginning. And like Quinn immediately hates
that he calls her sweetheart. And I feel like they didn't.
That's the one thing from directing that I have notes on
was they briefly showed her likekind of make a face about it.
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But I feel like they could have done a better job in that scene
of showcasing, like, him callingher sweetheart and her being,
like, disgusted by it. Disgusted.
Yeah. And I was really glad they saved
it by her saying that line at the end.
I think she says something like,I'm not your sweetheart when she
kills him. Yeah.
So they saved it. But I don't know, Like, I really
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loved how the book went all in on that commentary, even though
I don't normally like being reminded of Trump either.
But I don't know. I just was, like, I couldn't get
past it. And they did save it at the end.
Like if they had not included the generation theme, I was
going to be really mad because the front half of the movie, I
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kept feeling like they should have just done a different
movie. But they wanted to capitalize on
the IP of the book is what it felt like.
So now coming out of it, seeing it better, like I understand and
I totally respect your point on like, I don't want to be
reminded of those things becauseI'm the same way and I don't
want to make horror that remindspeople either.
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So I understand why they did it.It's just, I don't know.
I think I really need to see it again honestly, to know how I
really felt about it. Yeah, it's just hard when you're
expecting something and then it's a total left turn.
Yeah. But yeah, it's I feel like, like
I said before, we have to go in this these movies like it's like
a different multiverse, different timeline of this
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storyline, I guess for. Sure.
And I think that'll make it moreenjoyable.
But that is really interesting that it kind of goes deeper into
kind of like mega and the whole political thing happening.
So maybe maybe I'll because I'm sure they're going to, there's
going to be more movies if they can't just not make one, right.
So I'm sure they'll make more movies.
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So maybe, I don't know, after they make all the movies, I'll
go back and listen to the books and see.
That's true. So it doesn't cloud your movie
judge. Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That makes sense.
And then the other thing I did want to note too was the book
actually. So like, the sheriff is
obviously bad and there's a mayor who they didn't have in
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this movie, right? I don't think they did.
So there's a mayor character. Yeah, He was in the movie, I
mean, in the book. And he is very clearly, like
trying to find a middle ground between everyone.
But the adults are obviously, like, overpowering him.
So they have a meeting about thekids and they're like, it's out
(31:13):
of control. I think it might be after the
parade scene, which also changed, but I'm not going to
waste time talking about it. And the sheriff basically says,
like, this has gotten out of control and it's time for us to
all start acting as, I don't remember how he phrases it and I
couldn't find like, the right term.
(31:34):
But he basically says that he wants to in, like, enlist or
certify civilians to act as copsnow.
And the mayor's like, not reallyon board with that, but he's
like, I really need to get like,elected again.
So I'm going to try to buy into it.
And then the sheriff is like, you're not allowed as a mayor,
Like it's illegal and kicks him out.
(31:55):
And that's kind of the part in the book immediately that gives
away that it's them that are theclowns.
But it's very, very detailed andlike how all of this, the city
is like really fed up with them.Even the like teacher scene in
the beginning is way more intense, like super intense.
(32:15):
So and those kind of moments, I feel like I understand why they
were cut and changed from a screen writing and pasting
perspective, but I feel like allof the motive of why they did
this to the kids was lost in themovie.
Yeah, I see that because it justseems like, like you said, in
the classroom scene. So I'm sure like you said, more
things happen in the classroom scene.
(32:35):
They're just being annoying teenagers.
So I'm like, OK, that's not a real reason to want to kill all
of your students. But yeah, I can see that
perspective, like saying the motive was lacking because
nothing really, really happened.They just burned down a clown in
the parade and bully the teacherin the classroom.
(32:56):
So yeah, I'm very interested nowto see like, what the book
started with and like what made it the older generation so
angry. Yeah, sorry, I feel like I'm
talking so much about the book, but I don't know.
I was just really, really hung up on a lot of things and I, I'm
really going to go see it again because I want to enjoy it.
It was really fun. And then the last thing I will
(33:18):
add about the book and differences.
This was a very hot topic for people in the bookish community.
Janet was supposed to be Asian, yes.
And I found it very shocking because the book is so woke.
Like the message is woke. And then they cast a white girl
for this role. She did a great job, honestly.
(33:40):
Like I was like, I forgive it because she was funny, but I
couldn't get past it. I was just like, why would you
change that in like this type ofstory?
And when I found out, I was alsolike, Dang, are they going to
change the whole story? Like if they're going that
route, and I do want to say thatI don't think she's Asian, but
when I was reading the book, allI could picture was the sister
(34:02):
from Lisa Frankenstein I. Don't remember her?
You don't remember her? She's she kind of looks Asian.
She's not. I think she might be Hispanic,
but she has like the short hair and I don't know if she's the
sister or the best friend. I think she's the step sister.
Maybe it yeah, maybe it was the step sister.
(34:23):
I can't picture her face but OK.Yeah, you'll have to look her
up, but that's who I pictured isJanet, so I don't know, but
that's my last. I'm gonna stop talking about the
book now. No, no, I really wanted to hear
your perspective from, like, coming from the book.
But yeah, it's just hard when you have, like, expectations and
they're just not. I know.
So I get it and I'm there with you.
(34:47):
Yeah, But I guess did you go into the casting and the
characters? I really liked the whole group.
I thought they all had their unique personalities.
And it was, for me, very reminiscent of like a classic
horror movie, like kind of like Scream.
So you had like the jocks, the nerds, and then you had like the
sexy best friend so and the shady boyfriend saying you kind
(35:11):
of were just like guessing like,OK, maybe is it one of the
friends that is actually killingall the friends?
So I don't know. For some reason it just kept
throwing me back to like Scream vibes for me.
I thought I really loved all thecharacters.
Like even if they were kind of like annoying, like obviously in
the classroom, like, Oh my gosh,these kids are so annoying and
just the way they would talk. But I think the most annoying
(35:34):
character was Ronnie because shewas like just complaining the
whole time. But I also feel like that would
be me in a horror movie to play me that it's too hot or it's too
cold or that I was hungry. But yeah, I think I think
everybody was casted well. But now that I know that the
main character was supposed to be Asian, now I'm like OK, that
(35:55):
is kind of kind of weird. Wait, sorry, not the main
character, Janet. Sorry, Janet.
Sorry, now that Janet. OK, Yeah, yeah, was supposed to.
Be yeah, I don't know, it was weird.
I also really liked Rust from the beginning.
I thought he was so cute. And I really loved that the gay
characters in this movie weren'tthe butt of the jokes.
(36:18):
Like, they were just gay and they weren't poking fun at a gay
stereotype of like a flamboyant gay person and making that like,
oh, that's funny, huh? So I really loved that they did
a different approach to gay characters.
Yeah, for sure. I agree 100%.
I think the cast did really well, you see, And it's funny
because you brought up that you were wondering if it was one of
(36:42):
the friends. And at no point was that part of
my experience with the movies because I knew.
But it's something I've heard from a lot of other reviewers.
I've heard like really positive things, honestly, from everyone
that's reviewed it that hasn't seen the book.
Everyone has really actually mentioned the cast and Quinn
specifically about how she was just a really likable main lead
(37:04):
character. And I actually really liked
Ronnie, surprisingly. I, I don't typically like those
characters, but I thought she was funny.
And then I want to share something funny that happened at
the theatre. So you know how she says like
this means I'm next or whatever and then she literally is the
next one. And I told Rudy like, oh,
(37:27):
foreshadowing. And he was like, no Boo, she
manifested. He laughs so hard in the
theatre. That's.
Good. So it was funny.
But yeah, I really liked everyone.
Even Cole. I really, really liked his
character in the book, and I wasn't sold when I saw the
casting for him. But even throughout the movie he
(37:50):
just won me over. Like, I don't feel there was
anyone in the cast I didn't likeexcept the sheriff and Cole's
dad. Which, by the way, is it just me
or did his dad kind of look likeElon Musk?
Yeah, it's that actor. I think he's been in something
else and now I'm like, I always like when I see him.
(38:10):
I'm like, that's, that's Elon Musk.
I wonder if that was intentionalto be honest.
I think I was thinking the same thing.
I was like, I wonder if they casted him because he looks like
Elon Musk and then they put him in clown makeup or in makeup to
make it look like a A bash of him and Trump.
I don't know. It was, it was.
(38:31):
Yeah, interesting choices. And I wonder if that was on
purpose. Yeah, for sure, because I
couldn't get past that. I think that was the only thing
in the movie that I couldn't like that was kind of taking me
out. I was like, he looks like Elon
Musk because I hadn't seen him before.
But yeah, I loved the cast. Yeah, me too.
I can't complain about any of the cast.
I love them all. OK, so let's get into the fun
(38:54):
part of the kills and the scares.
Yeah, so I thought the kills were great.
I loved that each kill was pretty unique.
I don't think 1 kill was the same thing.
Like they all died in different ways.
There was like the crossbow killing where the guy got shot
with an arrow in the head, and the chainsaw kill, they're just
(39:15):
running in the cornfield and like the clown just like guts
over in the stomach. That was crazy.
And then the pitchfork. So yeah, I love that.
It was like a variety of different kills with different
weapons. And I, like you said before the
movie wasn't really scary, but but I feel like the setting in
the cornfield was kind of like the scary part, Like you don't
(39:37):
know when somebody's going to pop out and get you.
And it didn't have a lot of jumpscares.
And I don't feel like it needed it.
I think it was just, I don't know.
I thought it was just good the way they balanced everything.
What about you? Yeah, I like how they used the
jack-in-the-box thing. Is that what it's called?
(39:59):
The little jack-in-the-box trinket thing was kind of like
the jump scare, because I think the first time it kind of got me
a little bit. But I really enjoyed the kills.
I really liked, I forgot what his name was, but the guy that
was lifting weights, I really liked that kill.
Oh my God. And I loved when the girls were
playing with the head. So there's a part where one of
(40:21):
the friends is he's like doing. Is it called like a bar?
I don't know what it's called with.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
A bench press, I couldn't remember.
I was like, I can't remember. What?
It's called Yeah. So he's doing a bench press and
then Friendo comes over him and puts like a tool, I don't know,
(40:41):
some. Yeah.
So he connects it under the bench press and then pushes it
down on him. So it like, cuts his head off.
And then later, when the kids are at this, like, bonfire party
or barn party that they're having, Friendo throws the they
like before chaos ensues and they know there's a killer
clown. They throw the head out at the
(41:01):
kids and I do think that this was clever from like how they
changed it that the kids are always doing like fake videos
about friendo being a killer. So they throw the head and then
the girls pick it up and start tossing it around thinking it's
fake and like one of the friendsset them up for a video and then
they realize it's real. I thought it was kind of silly
how they just like immediately believed Quinn when she's like
(41:24):
she's not breathing or he's not breathing.
I forget who got killed. I thought that was one of my
favorite parts is like, when do you see girls just like tossing
a head around? And then they're like, they just
like freak out when they realizeit's real blood.
So I really loved that part. And then I really, really liked
the scene where Quinn killed thesheriff because you never really
(41:45):
see that happen. She used like, some kind of, was
it like a Taser or some kind of electrocution thing in his
mouth? Yeah.
So he stuck. She stuck it in his mouth.
And then you just saw, like, hiswhole head light up.
It was really cool. Like, that was my favorite part,
especially because, like, she said the line afterwards about
(42:06):
the whole sweetheart. So yeah, I think it's fun that
there were so many killers that they all had their own style,
which is what brought that like,uniqueness to the film.
For sure. I love the surprise because it
was a surprise to me that it wasmultiple people and they all
walked out and I was like, Oh myGod, this is so cool.
(42:28):
Like I was like so giddy and happy when they all like walked
out of the corner. It was like multiples of them
and they start chasing the kids.But yeah, it was just so stupid
with the tossing the head around.
But like I did, I wasn't mad that it was stupid.
I was like, this is really funny.
So yeah, I felt the same way. I was just so happy and giddy
(42:49):
throughout the whole movie. That's funny.
Yeah, I I think this is one of the few times that I regret
being prepared and reading the book.
Yeah. Because I didn't get that
experience of like, not knowing that it wasn't one of the
friends or that there weren't more than that.
There was more than one killer. So yeah, I'm gonna go watch it
(43:10):
tonight. That's a cold down the theater
and just when you watch it, I love that.
You should do. It.
Yeah, for sure. All right.
What about what were your thoughts on the practical
effects versus CGI in this film?I feel like if they had CGI,
(43:30):
they kind of hit it really well.Maybe like some parts where they
kind of shot like body parts offor when they chopped the head
off and the head just kind of like rolled off.
I guess that might have been CGI, but I loved all the
practical effects of the blood. One example is when Rust uses a
shotgun to shoot off one of the hands of someone dressed as
(43:52):
Friendo, and the blood, just like is squirting, exaggerated
out. And that was, I don't know, I
loved it. That was pretty cool.
But yeah, I didn't really noticeany CGI and I think that was a
good decision. Yeah, for sure.
I actually, I am ashamed to say this as a filmmaker quotation
mark, but I never really know the difference.
(44:15):
Like I'm not aware of when CGI is being used or not.
So I feel like I need to do my homework on that.
But overall I feel like they dida good job.
Like it just kind of felt like aclap.
Like it honestly really gave modern slasher vibes because I
feel like we don't get a lot of actual slashers anymore.
(44:38):
Yeah, it did feel like a modern slasher, but with, I don't know,
like sprinkles of like classic horror movie, if that makes any.
Sense, yes, yeah, for sure. I agree.
OK. Then we have themes and
symbolism, which I feel like we kind of touched on already, but
I know you have a lot more. Yeah, I kind of touched on it
(45:02):
earlier where it's just a battlebetween generations, which is
very current. What's going on in our current
political climate, specifically with the Democratic Party, with,
you know, the younger Democrats coming into play and kind of at
battle with the older Democrats,kind of just like a battle for
power. And I thought that was like, the
(45:23):
perfect, I guess, metaphor, I guess you can say, of when the
dad was showing Quinn how to drive stick shift.
Like, yeah, we still need the older generation to give us
guidance and kind of like, pointus in the right direction.
But I feel like we're at the wheel now, Like the working
(45:46):
class is like a different generation from what it was
before. And I just feel like we just all
need to grow and adapt to this new world and have our
leadership represent us and not only look like us but also be of
the current generation. But yeah.
That's good. That's a good take away and I'm
(46:07):
glad that you kind of got that even though they pulled back so
much, because I think that was obviously my biggest, I guess I
don't know how to call it. My biggest fight with the film
was just that they pulled back so much on the point of the
book. But again, I feel like they just
(46:27):
struck the perfect balance. And I've heard that from a lot
of people, too. Like it was commentary, but it
wasn't so on the nose that it took you out of the film.
So I'm glad that the point was still there for people who
didn't read the book. Exactly.
Yeah, Yeah, No, I got it. But like you said, it wasn't so
on the nose that I was like thinking about it during the
(46:48):
movie. It was something that I was like
thinking about after the movie. Yeah, for sure.
Well, while we wrap things up, Ido have one negative thing about
the film, and it has nothing to do with the book, surprisingly.
But the music was pretty bad. Mr. Spooks and I always talk
(47:10):
about we watch a lot of like, obviously tons of movies, but we
watch Netflix films sometimes and we're like, this is a really
good movie, but something about it still makes it feel like not
a theatrical release. And he told me, do you know what
it is? And I was like, no.
And he's like, they use stock music.
And I was like, oh, that's true.Because you know, when like
music's like real popular music.So they did not use popular
(47:33):
music at all. And I was hyper aware of that.
But then I also heard Spooky Astronauts, who's like a horror
reviewer on YouTube even said she felt like the music sounded
like AI music. And I can't get past that
because it just didn't sound like real music.
I feel like the music was the only thing about the film that
(47:54):
kind of like reduced its quality.
Interesting. Yeah, I guess I didn't really
pick up on that. I mean, I did pick up that it
wasn't real music. I'm like, oh, this is like
made-up pop songs that they're putting in this movie.
But I also think it's because, Idon't know, maybe because it
wasn't made by a, by a like a big, big production company.
(48:16):
Because. When it first started, it's
Shutter, which is like the live streaming.
So yeah, maybe that's why it felt like a Netflix movie,
because it was made by Shutter and I feel like Shutter is even
smaller than Netflix, I would think.
I don't. Know.
Yeah, for sure. So I don't know, I guess I did
notice it, but it didn't really bother me.
But it does make sense that theythey used stock music because
(48:37):
it's a smaller production company.
I don't know. I don't know how things.
Work. Yeah, Yeah.
No, for sure. I don't.
I don't know. I don't think it actually ruined
the well, I mean, I do think it brought the quality down a
little, but it did not feel likea Netflix film.
And I think this is my last notebefore I ask you if you have any
final notes. I was surprised by the quality
(48:59):
of the film to be honest, because when I heard that it was
the book being made, I was like,oh, it's been picked up by this
huge production company then because it's a big popular
horror book. So then when I found out the
production companies that were making it, I was like, I'm kind
of worried like, what if it turns out to be like Terrifier
(49:21):
quality style, you know? And so it was kind of like the
same as with Rosario. Like I went in expecting indie
quality and I was actually pleasantly surprised that it
felt like a full production other than the music.
Yeah, interesting. Yeah, I don't know that really
(49:41):
just didn't bother. Well, I guess to give some
background, I love watching B horror movie like B horror
movies like things on Toby, justlike random things on Shutter.
So I don't know, maybe that justdidn't face me because I kind of
enjoy that kind of. Production kind of movie, Yeah,
that's funny. But also I guess my final wrap
(50:06):
up, I guess the one thing I haven't talked about was the
ending. I actually really liked the
ending. It kind of left it open to your
interpretation. Kind of like, oh is friendo all
not dead? That they all not die?
Or was this like another practical joke that somebody
left a jack-in-the-box in her car or actually left too?
I guess I'm assuming college. So yeah, I kind of like the
(50:29):
ending. I left it open to add summer
movies. Yeah, for sure.
What I noticed too was, I don't remember if this was in the book
or not, but they didn't kill Cole's dad.
They didn't kill Elon because doesn't he get away with right
before they save Cole? I'm pretty sure.
(50:49):
So yeah, that's what I felt was cool.
Yeah, cool. So no more.
Fine. That's your final note.
Final. Note All right, go stairs.
It's time for it's freaking bats.
On a scale of one to five, how many bats would you rate this
film Rabbit? OK, this might be controversial
(51:13):
but it's OK. I watched this movie and was
enjoying it the whole time I left the movie and I was so
happy and I had gave me well, obviously not the exact same
feeling as sinners, but I left the movie feeling like that was
such a good movie. Like obviously different themes,
(51:35):
like they're completely different movies, but I left
both of those movies feeling good of what I just watched.
So I think I'm going to give a clown in a cornfield 5 bats.
Dang, wow, that's impressive. I know this is a hot take but I
I loved it. I don't think it's a hot take.
(51:56):
I'm really surprised though because I legit left thinking
like I had fun and usually when I have fun that means that you
thought the movie Saw. We usually have opposite
opinions. Yeah, that's.
True Yeah Wow, that's crazy. Well, I am gonna give it 3 bats.
That might change after I see itagain, but I don't know like I
(52:20):
had a ton of fun, genuinely likeI don't think it was a bad film,
but I also I think I just need to watch it again because I
don't know if like is it really sinners quality?
I don't like what it took to make sinners versus clown in a
cornfield is very different. Yes.
(52:40):
So I just can't like sinners is the standard for A5 for me now
so. Yeah, I get.
Yeah, I'm not saying that this is the production and everything
is as good as Sinners, but I feel like when you watch movies
or, or else when I watch horror movies or any movie is I have to
(53:02):
feel something when I'm watchingit.
And even though they're completely different movies, I
just felt good watching the movie and I felt good after the
movie. So it just, I don't know, it
just all worked for me. Yeah, no, that is perfectly fair
and valid. I'm happy you liked it honestly.
And we might need to do like a re a redo on this episode later
(53:24):
when I'm past all of my feelingssince.
You processed everything. Yeah.
OK. And before we part ways for the
week, we have a little moment ofBe Kind Rewind.
We're all about the vibes here, so if this film hit just right,
here are a few spooky pics you can rewind to to match the mood,
(53:44):
the madness or the mayhem, but we actually don't have anymore.
I know we were talking about this earlier, like, do you have
anything for becoming wine? And I'm like, no.
And you're like, I don't have anything either.
I just feel like there's nothing.
It doesn't feel like it's copying anything.
I mean, it's referencing a couple things here and there,
(54:07):
but there's nothing like it. I feel out right now and if
there is, definitely let us knowbecause I I'm down to watch it,
but it just feels like it's something fresh.
Definitely. Yeah, for sure.
I think if anything, kind of like what we said earlier, I
know we're going to rewind to more from the director because I
(54:29):
heard so many people, all of thehorror reviewers that I like to
watch said that as soon as they knew the guy who did, Oh my God,
I for I think it's Dale and Tucker.
They were all in on clown in a cornfield.
And overall it's the first horror film I've seen where like
all the reviewers are in a consensus that they liked the
(54:49):
film. A lot of them are saying like,
no, it's not the next Terrifier and it's not the best film ever,
but everyone, like nobody reallyhad feedback for it, which is
crazy. And why I'm kind of surprised
about the rating that you shared, the audience rating,
because I'm like everyone loved it.
How is it a 68? And I'm like, it's probably all
(55:11):
the book people that have lowered.
The people that have different expectations.
But yeah, when I watch a horror movie, I'm like, I wish they
would have changed this. I wish they would have changed
that. And that's what reduces my
reading for me. But like, I have no notes.
It's like, I'm like, I don't know.
What a time. I did a good job.
But yes, I agree. We can't rewind for Eli Craig.
(55:33):
We'll go over and watch his old stuff.
Yeah, for sure. That would be cool.
We should do an like a retro episode on that sometime when we
have time, for sure. All right, Ghosters, we hope you
had a bloody good time hanging out with us today.
Final Destination Bloodlines is popping into theaters this
weekend, so we'll see you here next Monday with our freshly
(55:55):
popped horror review. And remember, keep cinematic
horror alive on the big screen and go see something spooky this
weekend. Until next time, sending you
goals and kisses, bye.
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