November 27, 2024 • 25 mins
This week, I had an amazing time chatting with Chad Bushnell. He is a talented country artist who grew up in a rodeo family and found his passion for music early on. Chad shared stories about his unique journey from competing in rodeos to becoming a Christian country singer and songwriter. His love for performing and connecting with fans shines through, along with his appreciation for a good story in his songs.
Here’s what we talked about in this podcast:
- Chad’s childhood in a rodeo family and his experiences with team roping and steer wrestling.
- How he discovered his passion for music at a young age.
- Balancing writing and performing in his music career.
- Stories behind his popular songs, like Imperfect Prayer, Thank God, and Whiskey to Work.
- Funny and unusual moments from his live performances, including a wild audience story!
- Opening for country stars like Dwight Yoakam, Lee Brice, and Rodney Atkins.
- Advice for aspiring musicians: focus on performing, connecting with fans, and staying consistent.
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Chad's Website: https://www.chadbushnell.com/
Check out Chad's music on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7u3M8QGYeoWJBUKZt39xRN
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I performed at the Wrangler in Elk Grove.
(00:03):
20 minutes later, I looked over to my band,
and something hit me in the shoulder.
And my band's just going, oh my god,
and they're dying laughing.
I'm thinking, okay, I look back,
and it was camo underwear from the drunk cowboy guy in there.
Oh, wow.
Ripped off his underwear and threw it out of me,
and they landed and stuck on my shoulder.
I wake up every morning already over the limit
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cause a bottle on the table got nothing left in it,
so I.
Welcome to Not in a Huff with Jackson Huff,
where we interview newsmakers, storytellers,
and all around interesting people.
Sit back, relax, unless you're driving,
and enjoy the show.
Here's Jackson.
(00:46):
Hello, hello, hello.
I am Jackson Huff.
This is Not in a Huff.
Thanks so much for joining me.
As always, really appreciate it.
This week's speaking with Chad Bush now.
Now, Chad is another emerging country artist.
If you've listened to this podcast once or twice,
you know the drill.
I've had almost a dozen different country artists
on at this point.
I was blessed to, I guess, get in with the right people
(01:07):
and some people that know some up and coming people
on the Nashville scene, and Chad is one of those people.
So we're gonna talk a little bit about his new music.
We're gonna talk about his inspiration for writing.
We're gonna talk a little bit about kind of the journey
into country music, some amazing people
(01:28):
that he's opened up for.
It was a really cool conversation.
These conversations are always relatively short.
The idea is just learn a little bit about the artist,
decide whether, hey, I wanna check out some of their music
and kind of go from there.
Always enjoy these conversations.
This conversation with Chad is no different.
Really great guy.
(01:49):
We caught him in the middle of, I believe,
hunting season where he talked a little bit about that,
which reminds me, he also has a side business
that he makes beef jerky.
So just really, really awesome guy.
I think you're gonna enjoy this one.
I think you're gonna enjoy his music too.
So if you would go listen to him on Spotify,
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go check him out on all his social medias.
This is your first time listening to this podcast.
Please go follow and subscribe on Apple and Spotify as well
while you're listening to Chad.
Just go jump over to this podcast is Spotify
and follow along.
Really, really appreciate that.
But let's just get right to the interview with Chad.
Here is Chad Bushnell.
(02:31):
To Bushnell, how are you?
Hey, I'm doing good.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
I'm gonna let you do the heavy lifting.
Just introduce yourself.
Everybody, my name's Chad Bushnell
and I'm glad to be here on this podcast.
I'm happy to have you.
I want to, normally we go right into kind of
what started your passion for music,
but I guess I wanna take a detour first
because I heard growing up you were into the rodeo
(02:55):
and that holds a special place in my heart,
not because I know anything about rodeo,
it's because I wanna know more about it
and I've been working with the marketing team
for PBR, Professional Bull Riders.
Oh, wow.
Having a few people on,
they've invited me to like their media day,
but I've never been able to come.
So I wanna know more about rodeo.
(03:16):
I say all that to set you up to say I wasn't a bull rider.
I did something else,
but tell us about what you did with rodeo.
Man, I grew up in a rodeo family.
I was really blessed.
Both sides of my family were ranchers
and my parents were rodeo athletes.
My mom was a barrel racer
and my dad rode bulls and bucking horses.
And so we grew up in that lifestyle
(03:36):
and took us to junior rodeos, high school rodeos.
And so I had a great opportunity
to get to try a lot of different things at a young age.
And then I went to the time to then I was a timey.
So I team roped and steer wrestled
and it was a great experience.
And I pretty much always knew I wanted to do music.
So that was, I did it as long as I,
(03:57):
pretty much through my junior high school years,
high school, a little bit of college and that was it.
I got you.
Well, we're not gonna spend too much time on this
because we got so much to talk about with music,
but there's gonna be people
that are gonna be listening to this and say, whoa,
you just mentioned a bunch of stuff.
I have no idea what it is.
You said team rope, something wrestle.
What is that exactly?
(04:19):
Yeah, team rope.
So there's two people on horses
and one guy ropes the head and the horns
and one ropes the heels and they stretch them out
and they get a time, that's team roping.
And then steer wrestling,
you basically run out of a rope and shoot
and you jump on a steer and throw it on its back.
So I assume that these are very different kind of animals
(04:41):
than what you're riding
because I don't think you're gonna throw
any of those big guys on their backs.
No, no, steers usually for steer wrestling,
you're around 600 pounds, big enough,
but that was great.
I mean, I love steer wrestling especially
because it was in between team roping and bull riding,
I would say, get that adrenaline rush
and it's a little bit dangerous,
but not like bull riding because when you,
(05:03):
after you throw them, they don't come after you with steer.
So yeah.
Yeah, now that makes sense.
Well, again, I could spend a bunch of time on this
because I've been working for a while with PBR,
but I haven't gotten it on yet,
but I'm gonna leave the rest of that for them.
Let's talk about your music.
What created that passion?
You talked about how you always knew
that you wanted to do it.
Let's talk a little bit about the beginning.
(05:24):
Man, so growing up, my dad played in a local country band
in Northern California and I just,
I was an everybody at a young age.
I was, every time they did rehearsal,
I was just always, I loved everything about it
and I'd always be there.
I performed at a church when I was little.
And I mean, they had me sing the national anthem
when I was three or four at junior rodeos.
And just, ever since then, I just knew
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that's what I wanted to do basically.
And that was the start.
Yeah, so when it comes to releasing music,
are you somebody who, are you involved in all,
I guess, facets of it?
Do you do the writing of the music,
the writing of the lyrics and obviously the singing,
(06:07):
or where are you at with all of that?
I always, I don't know whether you're the singer songwriter
or where it happens there.
Man, I prefer to be involved in all of it.
I love to write my own music.
I love to, love the production part of it.
I love to be in there when the band's performing
and just, yeah, I normally do.
Late, these last two or three years,
(06:28):
I get so busy playing shows that sometimes,
I take songs from other people,
especially when someone like Brian White
pitches me a song or whiskey to work.
One of the leading song off my last album,
Dan Hudson was on there, Terry Lee Palmer,
who's John Partey's guitar player.
So it was pretty cool when you get songs
from people like that.
And so I take those, but I do prefer to write,
(06:50):
I do prefer to write my own song
and be involved in the whole production of it.
So.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Let's start talking about some of your music.
I know that you recently released a song,
Imperfect Prayer.
Talk a little bit about that song,
where your involvement with it is,
and then also kind of the inspiration behind it all
and the story of what the music is.
(07:15):
Yeah, so I'm blessed to be able to do
a lot of Christian country music,
and Thank God's been my biggest song.
I released that in 2021.
It hit number one on Christian country.
And so basically Imperfect Prayer
was kind of the follow-up single to that.
And so I got in the writing room with the same guys,
and I said, man, guys, thank God it did well.
(07:35):
And so I wanna write something.
And I had the idea for Thank God.
They kind of had the idea for Imperfect Prayer.
So I sort of went along with them,
and we wrote this song,
and Kemo Forrest actually produced this song.
And I kind of let him take the reins.
I mean, I recorded the best I could
with my acoustic and vocal, sent it to him,
and he put his own touch on it.
And obviously Kemo Forrest plays lead guitar for Alabama,
(07:58):
and he plays drums for John Michael Montgomery.
So very talented musician.
And I kind of let him put his own spin on what I gave him.
So, yeah.
So for people who haven't heard either song,
what's, I guess, what's the story behind the songs?
Because that's the cool thing about country music.
I have people on from all walks of life, not even all music,
(08:20):
but it seems like country,
they always have a little bit of a story to them
that you can follow.
So talk about that.
Yes, I was really getting to perform at Cowboy Church,
especially growing up.
I got involved in performing at Cowboy Church in Nashville.
And I got to meet Lisa Dags,
who's a pretty heavy hitter
in the Christian country music world.
And I entered this contest in 2018.
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I ended up winning the California contest,
and I went to Nationals in Nashville,
and up in the reserve slot,
but I still got to do a single song recording contract
with the SYN Music.
And they put What Would Jesus Do Out, and it hit number one.
And that was the first time in my life
after I got a number one Christian country single.
The radio stations were actually reaching out,
(09:03):
and they said, hey, where's your next single?
And I'm like, that's a good question.
And so That Ain't My Church was my second one.
It hit number one as well.
And so, and obviously I, Christian country thing,
but I'm also a little bit, I go to church, I'm a believer,
but I still like to have a beer.
And so I went to these guys, I said,
hey guys, I'm really, really flattered in Nashville
(09:23):
that I'm getting to put out these Christian country songs,
but I'd like to put something out
that's kind of middle of the road,
kind of a beer and a Bible thing.
That's kind of more of how I am.
And so Corey just said it, thank God,
and we all struggle, obviously.
And basically the hook is thank God
I'm not the only one working on me.
And so that's how Thank God came about, basically.
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Yeah.
I love that.
And I love that you mentioned the Bible and a beer,
because looking quickly before our interview
and your top songs on Spotify,
I guess we're turning not water into wine,
but water into whiskey,
because there's a lot of your music has to do with whiskey.
(10:07):
And you just mentioned earlier,
one of your biggest songs is that song, Whiskey to Work.
Talk a little bit about that song, if you would.
That's your most played song on Spotify.
Yeah. And that's one, unfortunately,
I can't take the credit for writing that one,
but I was performing at the local in Nashville,
which is one of the main spots
where singer songwriters go and they sing,
(10:28):
they share their songs with the crowd
and get to see other writers and get reactions.
And we were sitting there and they always play
before the songwriter nights,
they play everybody's music that's playing in there that night,
which is kind of cool.
I think they'll put on a playlist for an hour.
And all of a sudden we're sitting there,
my mom and I heard Whiskey to Work and we're like,
wow, this is a great song.
And so I asked Dan, I said, man,
(10:50):
what's this Whiskey to Work song we just heard?
And he's like, oh, you know, actually I wrote that.
Dan's the host of Porchlight Pickers.
And I said, man, such a great song.
The guy that did it said, anyway, long story short,
I ended up asking him, could I record this song,
put my own spin on it?
And he said, oh, of course.
And so I took it to Texas.
I kind of put in more of a Texas rock country,
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kind of spin on it and that's how it came out.
And it's been my best song.
It's been playing on all kinds of stations
around the country.
And it's just, it's been,
I've been blessed to be able to have that song.
Yeah, no, it's definitely a catchy song.
I listened to it myself.
I enjoyed it.
And I, I'll tell you, as somebody who has a podcast,
(11:31):
I'm always kind of a fan of a turn of phrase
and things that just sound funny
when you put the words together.
So I saw the title of another song called Pass the Sushi,
which I thought was kind of funny.
I thought, okay, but finally,
because all these top songs have the word whiskey in it.
So I thought, okay, maybe this song has something else.
(11:51):
I listened to it.
It talks about whiskey too, which made me laugh as well.
But talk about that song.
Cause I think when somebody's flipping through
a list of country songs, that's gonna stand out.
Something called Pass the Sushi.
And I listened to it and I liked kind of
the theming behind that too.
(12:12):
Yeah, so I always like to put a little humor.
And when I put this album out,
I needed just a couple more songs.
I said, man, all these songs are serious.
Well, Whiskey to Work's not really,
but a lot of the songs on there were pretty serious.
And I really need something funny to kind of break it up.
And Corey, Corey Lee Barker pitched me a bunch of songs
who co-wrote Perfect Prayer.
And I said, hey, that's the song right there.
(12:33):
And I picked it.
And unfortunately, I don't have a better story behind it.
I took it from Corey, but you know, I mean,
there are quite a few songs I did write on the last album,
but Pass the Sushi was written by Corey Lee Barker.
So.
Yeah, very cool.
Well, I guess let's get past just individual songs.
I wanna talk about you and the industry.
Well, I mean, what's,
you've been in the industry for a good little while,
(12:56):
but you're, I guess you're not old and grizzled yet.
So what's been the coolest part of kind of that beginning
in your breakthrough in the industry?
Man, just, you know, I love to perform.
I really do.
I mean, I love to write, record, all that's great.
But I mean, I'd love to be out touring and performing.
I mean, especially this summer, I mean,
(13:16):
it's really been a dream come true.
Some of the shows I've gotten to do, I mean, I have to say,
this summer has just been kind of unreal.
Got to perform at like Kennedy Meadows Resort
for this big country music festival,
which, you know, is probably the coolest resort I've been to.
It's a pack station.
And just, you know, getting to do stuff like that is really,
that's my favorite part.
I love to travel and perform.
(13:37):
And this next year, I mean, we're already,
we have plans to be in Arizona doing a tour.
This year, I actually got to do my first East Coast tour.
I performed in Tennessee, North Carolina,
and South Carolina, and that was a first for me.
And so, I mean, that's really what I like to do is perform.
So.
No, that's amazing.
And if you've ever listened to me interview anyone else
(13:57):
in the music world, I always ask a question
that people kind of like to hem-haul
and give a political answer to,
but I feel like maybe you're going to answer it
based on what you just said.
So I always like to ask people,
if you had to pick songwriting or performing,
because a lot of people, you know, they say,
I love to write songs,
and the only way that I'm going to make it successful
(14:18):
is to perform them, or the other way around,
hey, I love to perform,
and the only way that it's going to go somewhere
is I've got to write something.
So, which way do you, what do you prefer more,
the writing or the performing?
Man, that's kind of a tough one.
I mean, it's, you know, as you get older,
the performing does get tough, you know,
because especially, you know,
until you get to the point where you can have a tour bus
and someone driving, you know, I mean, it's a lot.
(14:38):
I mean, we have three or four day runs where I'm still,
you know, we're in a truck or a van.
I'm doing most of the driving.
You know, most of the time, pretty much sounds provided,
which helps a lot, but still setting up all your backline,
your drums, your guitars, and all that.
I mean, it's a lot of work,
and so three, four days of that, you know,
that's where it does become a grind.
(14:59):
And so the writing, you know, I mean,
I've gotten to write with a lot of hit songwriters
and talk to them.
The writing's a really great part of it too,
but I do love to tour and perform,
so I mean, that's where my heart is.
I'd have to say that.
Yeah.
I always like to ask too,
what's the strangest place that you've performed
the craziest one I've heard while you think about it
(15:19):
is somebody had to sing Gretchen Wilson's Redneck Woman
in a Catholic church,
which seemed a little bit wild to me.
What's the craziest place that you've had to perform?
That's a tough one, man.
I have some stories about some of the places, you know,
cause I've gotten to do some of the coolest shows.
I mean, I got to open for Chris Christopherson
five years ago.
That was really a highlight of my career, you know,
(15:40):
songwriter, songwriters, but man,
one of my strangest things is I performed at the Wrangler
in Elk Grove, which is near Sacramento, California.
And well, I mean, I got to be careful what I say,
but we did get, we got flashed by a little old lady.
So about 20 minutes later, I looked over to my band
(16:00):
and something hit me in the shoulder.
And so first, it was a piece of clothing.
So first thing in my mind, okay,
it's the bra from the old lady.
And my band just going, oh my God,
and they're dying laughing.
I'm thinking, okay, I look back and it was camo underwear
from the drunk cowboy guy in there and ripped off his
underwear and threw him out of me.
And they landed and stuck on my shoulder,
(16:21):
which sounds really wrong too.
And so that's probably my craziest,
craziest experience of performing shows.
So I feel like if you can,
if you can keep it together and perform when,
when people are literally throwing their clothes at you,
both men, women, young, old,
I think that you're, you're,
you're setting yourself up for, for, for success, right?
(16:43):
Yeah. It was one, I always tell that story.
As people ask me that question, I said, yeah,
that was probably the craziest, most awkward moment.
And yeah, it was, it was interesting.
So, yeah, it certainly sounds like it.
And I, you mentioned a minute ago, Chris Christopherson,
which obviously is a, a huge songwriter in, in our world,
whether it's, you know, country or, you know,
(17:05):
folk, a huge person, somebody, I think just in the time of
this recording, it just has just passed away last week,
I believe. So it's pretty timely there.
But talk a little bit about some of the people you've opened for
because some definitely some heavy hitters in the world of music.
Yeah. Scotty McCreary,
Dwight Yocum who Dwight's kind of my hero and Lee Bryce.
(17:28):
Lee Bryce has been my absolute best opening experience though,
because he was just the coolest dude.
And I didn't expect that really, I, you know, going into it.
But Lee Bryce, he was very nice.
He invited us on his bus after the show for some beers.
We went afterwards and signed autographs.
And I mean, he was just overall great guy.
And his brother, Lewis Bryce is equally as nice.
So Mark Chesnit, and this year we got to open for Rodney Atkins.
(17:51):
He was, he was really cool.
And hopefully next year,
I'm anxious to see who we're going to get to open for.
So yeah, I always like to ask too about what's your favorite music.
I mean, I've, I've just because you're a country artist doesn't
necessarily mean that's what you like to listen to on your, on your off time.
You know, I've had some, some folk singers that love Screamo.
What, what, when you're not recording, you're not picking your next song.
(18:14):
What, what do you like to listen to?
Man, I, you know, I love listening to Bob and Tom, you know, in the rock station.
So I listened to every time, because actually when I'm not performing,
I shoe horses a little bit.
I work as a farrier and I've still kept that my dad's a farrier.
And so sometimes I'll turn on the rock station or even the pop station.
Sometimes too, I like that.
And my wife's a huge Bruno Mars fan.
(18:34):
And so we've been to see Bruno Mars twice and I highly recommend
going and watching him. He puts on a great show.
So, well, that's awesome.
I don't know whether you know a lot about Bob and Tom, but you know,
they're from, they're from Indianapolis where I am.
So I've, I've met them several times.
Obviously Bob is, has retired a long time ago, but yeah, they're, they're from,
(18:55):
they're from Indianapolis.
That's where, that's where it's all recorded from.
Wow.
Well, I, I listened to that station when I'm working because just, you know,
it's good to have a good laugh in the morning.
So if you see him, tell him I said, hi.
Okay.
I'll do it.
I want you now to talk about advice for others.
You know, that's something I'm sure you've been asked plenty of times,
(19:17):
but you know, people that are listening to this and,
and want to get into the world of music.
What, what advice do you have for them?
Man, you know, it's, that's always tough.
I think when getting out and performing and making fans and you can't really go
wrong with that because that's, that's how I've gotten all the opportunities to get to do what
I get to do and open, you know, and living in Northern California.
I'm back and forth from Nashville four times a year, at least.
(19:40):
Uh, you know, I think the combination of just going out and doing acoustic shows and
full band shows that really, you know, the fan base is everything, I think,
because that's just what leads you to be able to get out and make money doing shows.
And the money kind of drives, I just say the money kind of drives a lot of it,
pretty much everything.
And so, yeah, writing songs, I mean, as much as you can co-write too, but,
(20:02):
you know, I prefer to write by myself, but you know, any chance I get to write with
someone back in Nashville, I take it.
I love that.
And we've already mentioned your songs, you know, they're the title, what they're about,
but I always like to kind of just get to the heart of, if somebody finds you on Spotify,
what's your sound?
What, what do you, what, what, what's the genre of your music?
(20:23):
And I hate to ask this question about, you know, what do you compare yourself to?
Because obviously, you know, you're, you're your own person, but if, if you like this kind of music,
if you like this person, you're, you're going to like, you know, what, what I've got out.
So what's your sound?
Yeah, probably.
It's kind of a combo.
I mean, really just that Y2K country sound, you know, in the 2000, I mean, of course there's
(20:44):
some 90s country influence because that's, I've worked with a lot of those guys, Dave Gibson,
Kimo Forrest, they produced me.
And I mean, a little bit of Texas country influence, that red dirt country, it's kind of like a blend
of the 90s country, Y2K, Y2K country with the Texas country sound, I guess is what you call it.
That makes, if that makes sense.
So kind of like Aaron Watson, Casey Donahue, but with also the, you know,
(21:06):
Jake Owen, Jason Aldean kind of been there too.
So it sounds like it's just Chad Bush now sound, right?
Yeah.
There you go.
I like it.
I want to, I want to now switch because, you know, we started out with, with Rodeo,
we spent a lot of time on your music, but now we've got to talk about something else.
You've got, you've got a beef jerky line.
(21:26):
What's that all about?
Yeah. Yeah. So that was something that, you know, cause I used to shoe a lot more horses
before the music kind of was taken off and be able to shoe horses.
You got to be in shape, you know, and, and I like to eat a lot of protein.
So there was a little hole in the wall, a place called it's jerky.
This was like 10, eight or 10 years ago.
My dad was telling me about it and it's all natural, which cause some of the stuff
(21:47):
at the gas station was just kind of wiggled me out with my blood sugar.
And so started going to it's jerky and I started buying their stuff when I was working
cause it didn't, it didn't mess with my system.
And so through the years they got really successful.
Now they have like two warehouses.
They're, they're all over California, Oregon.
They've been really successful there in Costco.
(22:08):
So in 2020, when COVID hit, I just thought I said, man, I need to do something else
to make money since all my shows canceled.
And so I said, why not try a chabush and El jerky?
And I reached out and just, it worked out for me.
And it's been really great.
It's in about eight to 10 stores right now.
I sell to different places.
And yeah, it's a great deal.
So it's jerky.
(22:30):
It's Chad Bushnell is jerky basically is what it's called.
So what, I mean, you, you created this jerky.
What, what do you, I mean, what's, what's the flavors?
What have you, I mean, you said that, so you've, it's not like you've kind of partnered
with another company.
So is it just kind of things that they already had and it's putting your branding on it
or have you created your own formula, so to speak?
(22:52):
I know nothing about jerky, but.
Well, right now it's their thing.
So the honey pepper is their best seller.
And that's, and then there's regular pepper and garlic.
Those are the three flavors I have.
So basically it's a collaboration with their brand, but I've been sort of talking to him
about doing my own flavor because I have some ideas and then, you know, they've, they've
went on, they have teriyaki, they have the thick and zesty, which is my favorite.
(23:13):
And so, uh, basically I've got to give them credit for coming up with the flavors, but
the honey pepper, if you like something just sweet and it's, it's the bomb, you know, so
I'll have to send you a little bag.
Wow.
Yeah, that's, that's awesome.
Well, more to come when it comes to your jerky said you got other flavors, more to come when
it comes to your music.
How are people going to find your music?
(23:35):
And I guess the jerky to shout out all of your connection points that you want to.
Yeah.
So of course, Chad Bushner music on Facebook, Instagram, tick tock and, uh, you know,
YouTube as well.
And then all my music's on Spotify, iTunes, my website's chadbushnell.com.
And you can actually order the jerky, uh, at chadbushnell.com if you go on there.
(23:56):
And, uh, my music, you can order my albums on chadbushnell.com as well.
And so, yeah, that's all my platforms.
I got you.
Well, I really appreciate your time today.
Thanks so much, Chad.
Well, thank you so much for having me.
I've been looking forward to this and, uh, yeah, this is awesome.
So that was Chad Bush now.
I really appreciate him coming on.
I've really appreciated and enjoyed his music since he joined me a few weeks ago.
(24:19):
Definitely some, uh, some great kind of back to your roots country music.
Thought it was really, really awesome.
You know, we get into all the different songs.
He's got some, uh, just tried and true classics when it comes to, you know, the
heartache and trucks and stuff like that.
But he's also got some really unique ones as well.
So I think you, you'll find something that you enjoy.
(24:41):
I urge you to check him out on Spotify, follow along with him on all this other social media.
All that will be in the show notes.
This is your first time listening to this podcast.
You haven't already go follow along with it.
Really appreciate that.
Had really a lot of, uh, of artists on in the past if that's your thing.
But, uh, if it's not, you know, people from true crime to actors to Olympic gold medalists,
(25:03):
all kinds of people.
So hope you'll follow along not enough podcast on Instagram, not enough podcast on
Tik TOK, jacksnap.com, not enough with Jackson enough on Facebook.
Of course, leave that five star review on Apple and on Spotify,
leave the written view on Apple always really helps.
But we'll see you next week.
Take it away, Chris.
This has been not in a huff with Jackson huff.
(25:25):
Thank you for listening.
Be sure to join us next time where we will interview another amazing guest
who is sure to make you laugh or make you think or pay maybe even both.
But until then keep being awesome.
I performed at the Wrangler in Elk Grove.
(00:03):
20 minutes later, I looked over to my band,
and something hit me in the shoulder.
And my band's just going, oh my god,
and they're dying laughing.
I'm thinking, okay, I look back,
and it was camo underwear from the drunk cowboy guy in there.
Oh, wow.
Ripped off his underwear and threw it out of me,
and they landed and stuck on my shoulder.
I wake up every morning already over the limit
(00:25):
cause a bottle on the table got nothing left in it,
so I.
Welcome to Not in a Huff with Jackson Huff,
where we interview newsmakers, storytellers,
and all around interesting people.
Sit back, relax, unless you're driving,
and enjoy the show.
Here's Jackson.
(00:46):
Hello, hello, hello.
I am Jackson Huff.
This is Not in a Huff.
Thanks so much for joining me.
As always, really appreciate it.
This week's speaking with Chad Bush now.
Now, Chad is another emerging country artist.
If you've listened to this podcast once or twice,
you know the drill.
I've had almost a dozen different country artists
on at this point.
I was blessed to, I guess, get in with the right people
(01:07):
and some people that know some up and coming people
on the Nashville scene, and Chad is one of those people.
So we're gonna talk a little bit about his new music.
We're gonna talk about his inspiration for writing.
We're gonna talk a little bit about kind of the journey
into country music, some amazing people
(01:28):
that he's opened up for.
It was a really cool conversation.
These conversations are always relatively short.
The idea is just learn a little bit about the artist,
decide whether, hey, I wanna check out some of their music
and kind of go from there.
Always enjoy these conversations.
This conversation with Chad is no different.
Really great guy.
(01:49):
We caught him in the middle of, I believe,
hunting season where he talked a little bit about that,
which reminds me, he also has a side business
that he makes beef jerky.
So just really, really awesome guy.
I think you're gonna enjoy this one.
I think you're gonna enjoy his music too.
So if you would go listen to him on Spotify,
(02:10):
go check him out on all his social medias.
This is your first time listening to this podcast.
Please go follow and subscribe on Apple and Spotify as well
while you're listening to Chad.
Just go jump over to this podcast is Spotify
and follow along.
Really, really appreciate that.
But let's just get right to the interview with Chad.
Here is Chad Bushnell.
(02:31):
To Bushnell, how are you?
Hey, I'm doing good.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
I'm gonna let you do the heavy lifting.
Just introduce yourself.
Everybody, my name's Chad Bushnell
and I'm glad to be here on this podcast.
I'm happy to have you.
I want to, normally we go right into kind of
what started your passion for music,
but I guess I wanna take a detour first
because I heard growing up you were into the rodeo
(02:55):
and that holds a special place in my heart,
not because I know anything about rodeo,
it's because I wanna know more about it
and I've been working with the marketing team
for PBR, Professional Bull Riders.
Oh, wow.
Having a few people on,
they've invited me to like their media day,
but I've never been able to come.
So I wanna know more about rodeo.
(03:16):
I say all that to set you up to say I wasn't a bull rider.
I did something else,
but tell us about what you did with rodeo.
Man, I grew up in a rodeo family.
I was really blessed.
Both sides of my family were ranchers
and my parents were rodeo athletes.
My mom was a barrel racer
and my dad rode bulls and bucking horses.
And so we grew up in that lifestyle
(03:36):
and took us to junior rodeos, high school rodeos.
And so I had a great opportunity
to get to try a lot of different things at a young age.
And then I went to the time to then I was a timey.
So I team roped and steer wrestled
and it was a great experience.
And I pretty much always knew I wanted to do music.
So that was, I did it as long as I,
(03:57):
pretty much through my junior high school years,
high school, a little bit of college and that was it.
I got you.
Well, we're not gonna spend too much time on this
because we got so much to talk about with music,
but there's gonna be people
that are gonna be listening to this and say, whoa,
you just mentioned a bunch of stuff.
I have no idea what it is.
You said team rope, something wrestle.
What is that exactly?
(04:19):
Yeah, team rope.
So there's two people on horses
and one guy ropes the head and the horns
and one ropes the heels and they stretch them out
and they get a time, that's team roping.
And then steer wrestling,
you basically run out of a rope and shoot
and you jump on a steer and throw it on its back.
So I assume that these are very different kind of animals
(04:41):
than what you're riding
because I don't think you're gonna throw
any of those big guys on their backs.
No, no, steers usually for steer wrestling,
you're around 600 pounds, big enough,
but that was great.
I mean, I love steer wrestling especially
because it was in between team roping and bull riding,
I would say, get that adrenaline rush
and it's a little bit dangerous,
but not like bull riding because when you,
(05:03):
after you throw them, they don't come after you with steer.
So yeah.
Yeah, now that makes sense.
Well, again, I could spend a bunch of time on this
because I've been working for a while with PBR,
but I haven't gotten it on yet,
but I'm gonna leave the rest of that for them.
Let's talk about your music.
What created that passion?
You talked about how you always knew
that you wanted to do it.
Let's talk a little bit about the beginning.
(05:24):
Man, so growing up, my dad played in a local country band
in Northern California and I just,
I was an everybody at a young age.
I was, every time they did rehearsal,
I was just always, I loved everything about it
and I'd always be there.
I performed at a church when I was little.
And I mean, they had me sing the national anthem
when I was three or four at junior rodeos.
And just, ever since then, I just knew
(05:45):
that's what I wanted to do basically.
And that was the start.
Yeah, so when it comes to releasing music,
are you somebody who, are you involved in all,
I guess, facets of it?
Do you do the writing of the music,
the writing of the lyrics and obviously the singing,
(06:07):
or where are you at with all of that?
I always, I don't know whether you're the singer songwriter
or where it happens there.
Man, I prefer to be involved in all of it.
I love to write my own music.
I love to, love the production part of it.
I love to be in there when the band's performing
and just, yeah, I normally do.
Late, these last two or three years,
(06:28):
I get so busy playing shows that sometimes,
I take songs from other people,
especially when someone like Brian White
pitches me a song or whiskey to work.
One of the leading song off my last album,
Dan Hudson was on there, Terry Lee Palmer,
who's John Partey's guitar player.
So it was pretty cool when you get songs
from people like that.
And so I take those, but I do prefer to write,
(06:50):
I do prefer to write my own song
and be involved in the whole production of it.
So.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Let's start talking about some of your music.
I know that you recently released a song,
Imperfect Prayer.
Talk a little bit about that song,
where your involvement with it is,
and then also kind of the inspiration behind it all
and the story of what the music is.
(07:15):
Yeah, so I'm blessed to be able to do
a lot of Christian country music,
and Thank God's been my biggest song.
I released that in 2021.
It hit number one on Christian country.
And so basically Imperfect Prayer
was kind of the follow-up single to that.
And so I got in the writing room with the same guys,
and I said, man, guys, thank God it did well.
(07:35):
And so I wanna write something.
And I had the idea for Thank God.
They kind of had the idea for Imperfect Prayer.
So I sort of went along with them,
and we wrote this song,
and Kemo Forrest actually produced this song.
And I kind of let him take the reins.
I mean, I recorded the best I could
with my acoustic and vocal, sent it to him,
and he put his own touch on it.
And obviously Kemo Forrest plays lead guitar for Alabama,
(07:58):
and he plays drums for John Michael Montgomery.
So very talented musician.
And I kind of let him put his own spin on what I gave him.
So, yeah.
So for people who haven't heard either song,
what's, I guess, what's the story behind the songs?
Because that's the cool thing about country music.
I have people on from all walks of life, not even all music,
(08:20):
but it seems like country,
they always have a little bit of a story to them
that you can follow.
So talk about that.
Yes, I was really getting to perform at Cowboy Church,
especially growing up.
I got involved in performing at Cowboy Church in Nashville.
And I got to meet Lisa Dags,
who's a pretty heavy hitter
in the Christian country music world.
And I entered this contest in 2018.
(08:42):
I ended up winning the California contest,
and I went to Nationals in Nashville,
and up in the reserve slot,
but I still got to do a single song recording contract
with the SYN Music.
And they put What Would Jesus Do Out, and it hit number one.
And that was the first time in my life
after I got a number one Christian country single.
The radio stations were actually reaching out,
(09:03):
and they said, hey, where's your next single?
And I'm like, that's a good question.
And so That Ain't My Church was my second one.
It hit number one as well.
And so, and obviously I, Christian country thing,
but I'm also a little bit, I go to church, I'm a believer,
but I still like to have a beer.
And so I went to these guys, I said,
hey guys, I'm really, really flattered in Nashville
(09:23):
that I'm getting to put out these Christian country songs,
but I'd like to put something out
that's kind of middle of the road,
kind of a beer and a Bible thing.
That's kind of more of how I am.
And so Corey just said it, thank God,
and we all struggle, obviously.
And basically the hook is thank God
I'm not the only one working on me.
And so that's how Thank God came about, basically.
(09:46):
Yeah.
I love that.
And I love that you mentioned the Bible and a beer,
because looking quickly before our interview
and your top songs on Spotify,
I guess we're turning not water into wine,
but water into whiskey,
because there's a lot of your music has to do with whiskey.
(10:07):
And you just mentioned earlier,
one of your biggest songs is that song, Whiskey to Work.
Talk a little bit about that song, if you would.
That's your most played song on Spotify.
Yeah. And that's one, unfortunately,
I can't take the credit for writing that one,
but I was performing at the local in Nashville,
which is one of the main spots
where singer songwriters go and they sing,
(10:28):
they share their songs with the crowd
and get to see other writers and get reactions.
And we were sitting there and they always play
before the songwriter nights,
they play everybody's music that's playing in there that night,
which is kind of cool.
I think they'll put on a playlist for an hour.
And all of a sudden we're sitting there,
my mom and I heard Whiskey to Work and we're like,
wow, this is a great song.
And so I asked Dan, I said, man,
(10:50):
what's this Whiskey to Work song we just heard?
And he's like, oh, you know, actually I wrote that.
Dan's the host of Porchlight Pickers.
And I said, man, such a great song.
The guy that did it said, anyway, long story short,
I ended up asking him, could I record this song,
put my own spin on it?
And he said, oh, of course.
And so I took it to Texas.
I kind of put in more of a Texas rock country,
(11:10):
kind of spin on it and that's how it came out.
And it's been my best song.
It's been playing on all kinds of stations
around the country.
And it's just, it's been,
I've been blessed to be able to have that song.
Yeah, no, it's definitely a catchy song.
I listened to it myself.
I enjoyed it.
And I, I'll tell you, as somebody who has a podcast,
(11:31):
I'm always kind of a fan of a turn of phrase
and things that just sound funny
when you put the words together.
So I saw the title of another song called Pass the Sushi,
which I thought was kind of funny.
I thought, okay, but finally,
because all these top songs have the word whiskey in it.
So I thought, okay, maybe this song has something else.
(11:51):
I listened to it.
It talks about whiskey too, which made me laugh as well.
But talk about that song.
Cause I think when somebody's flipping through
a list of country songs, that's gonna stand out.
Something called Pass the Sushi.
And I listened to it and I liked kind of
the theming behind that too.
(12:12):
Yeah, so I always like to put a little humor.
And when I put this album out,
I needed just a couple more songs.
I said, man, all these songs are serious.
Well, Whiskey to Work's not really,
but a lot of the songs on there were pretty serious.
And I really need something funny to kind of break it up.
And Corey, Corey Lee Barker pitched me a bunch of songs
who co-wrote Perfect Prayer.
And I said, hey, that's the song right there.
(12:33):
And I picked it.
And unfortunately, I don't have a better story behind it.
I took it from Corey, but you know, I mean,
there are quite a few songs I did write on the last album,
but Pass the Sushi was written by Corey Lee Barker.
So.
Yeah, very cool.
Well, I guess let's get past just individual songs.
I wanna talk about you and the industry.
Well, I mean, what's,
you've been in the industry for a good little while,
(12:56):
but you're, I guess you're not old and grizzled yet.
So what's been the coolest part of kind of that beginning
in your breakthrough in the industry?
Man, just, you know, I love to perform.
I really do.
I mean, I love to write, record, all that's great.
But I mean, I'd love to be out touring and performing.
I mean, especially this summer, I mean,
(13:16):
it's really been a dream come true.
Some of the shows I've gotten to do, I mean, I have to say,
this summer has just been kind of unreal.
Got to perform at like Kennedy Meadows Resort
for this big country music festival,
which, you know, is probably the coolest resort I've been to.
It's a pack station.
And just, you know, getting to do stuff like that is really,
that's my favorite part.
I love to travel and perform.
(13:37):
And this next year, I mean, we're already,
we have plans to be in Arizona doing a tour.
This year, I actually got to do my first East Coast tour.
I performed in Tennessee, North Carolina,
and South Carolina, and that was a first for me.
And so, I mean, that's really what I like to do is perform.
So.
No, that's amazing.
And if you've ever listened to me interview anyone else
(13:57):
in the music world, I always ask a question
that people kind of like to hem-haul
and give a political answer to,
but I feel like maybe you're going to answer it
based on what you just said.
So I always like to ask people,
if you had to pick songwriting or performing,
because a lot of people, you know, they say,
I love to write songs,
and the only way that I'm going to make it successful
(14:18):
is to perform them, or the other way around,
hey, I love to perform,
and the only way that it's going to go somewhere
is I've got to write something.
So, which way do you, what do you prefer more,
the writing or the performing?
Man, that's kind of a tough one.
I mean, it's, you know, as you get older,
the performing does get tough, you know,
because especially, you know,
until you get to the point where you can have a tour bus
and someone driving, you know, I mean, it's a lot.
(14:38):
I mean, we have three or four day runs where I'm still,
you know, we're in a truck or a van.
I'm doing most of the driving.
You know, most of the time, pretty much sounds provided,
which helps a lot, but still setting up all your backline,
your drums, your guitars, and all that.
I mean, it's a lot of work,
and so three, four days of that, you know,
that's where it does become a grind.
(14:59):
And so the writing, you know, I mean,
I've gotten to write with a lot of hit songwriters
and talk to them.
The writing's a really great part of it too,
but I do love to tour and perform,
so I mean, that's where my heart is.
I'd have to say that.
Yeah.
I always like to ask too,
what's the strangest place that you've performed
the craziest one I've heard while you think about it
(15:19):
is somebody had to sing Gretchen Wilson's Redneck Woman
in a Catholic church,
which seemed a little bit wild to me.
What's the craziest place that you've had to perform?
That's a tough one, man.
I have some stories about some of the places, you know,
cause I've gotten to do some of the coolest shows.
I mean, I got to open for Chris Christopherson
five years ago.
That was really a highlight of my career, you know,
(15:40):
songwriter, songwriters, but man,
one of my strangest things is I performed at the Wrangler
in Elk Grove, which is near Sacramento, California.
And well, I mean, I got to be careful what I say,
but we did get, we got flashed by a little old lady.
So about 20 minutes later, I looked over to my band
(16:00):
and something hit me in the shoulder.
And so first, it was a piece of clothing.
So first thing in my mind, okay,
it's the bra from the old lady.
And my band just going, oh my God,
and they're dying laughing.
I'm thinking, okay, I look back and it was camo underwear
from the drunk cowboy guy in there and ripped off his
underwear and threw him out of me.
And they landed and stuck on my shoulder,
(16:21):
which sounds really wrong too.
And so that's probably my craziest,
craziest experience of performing shows.
So I feel like if you can,
if you can keep it together and perform when,
when people are literally throwing their clothes at you,
both men, women, young, old,
I think that you're, you're,
you're setting yourself up for, for, for success, right?
(16:43):
Yeah. It was one, I always tell that story.
As people ask me that question, I said, yeah,
that was probably the craziest, most awkward moment.
And yeah, it was, it was interesting.
So, yeah, it certainly sounds like it.
And I, you mentioned a minute ago, Chris Christopherson,
which obviously is a, a huge songwriter in, in our world,
whether it's, you know, country or, you know,
(17:05):
folk, a huge person, somebody, I think just in the time of
this recording, it just has just passed away last week,
I believe. So it's pretty timely there.
But talk a little bit about some of the people you've opened for
because some definitely some heavy hitters in the world of music.
Yeah. Scotty McCreary,
Dwight Yocum who Dwight's kind of my hero and Lee Bryce.
(17:28):
Lee Bryce has been my absolute best opening experience though,
because he was just the coolest dude.
And I didn't expect that really, I, you know, going into it.
But Lee Bryce, he was very nice.
He invited us on his bus after the show for some beers.
We went afterwards and signed autographs.
And I mean, he was just overall great guy.
And his brother, Lewis Bryce is equally as nice.
So Mark Chesnit, and this year we got to open for Rodney Atkins.
(17:51):
He was, he was really cool.
And hopefully next year,
I'm anxious to see who we're going to get to open for.
So yeah, I always like to ask too about what's your favorite music.
I mean, I've, I've just because you're a country artist doesn't
necessarily mean that's what you like to listen to on your, on your off time.
You know, I've had some, some folk singers that love Screamo.
What, what, when you're not recording, you're not picking your next song.
(18:14):
What, what do you like to listen to?
Man, I, you know, I love listening to Bob and Tom, you know, in the rock station.
So I listened to every time, because actually when I'm not performing,
I shoe horses a little bit.
I work as a farrier and I've still kept that my dad's a farrier.
And so sometimes I'll turn on the rock station or even the pop station.
Sometimes too, I like that.
And my wife's a huge Bruno Mars fan.
(18:34):
And so we've been to see Bruno Mars twice and I highly recommend
going and watching him. He puts on a great show.
So, well, that's awesome.
I don't know whether you know a lot about Bob and Tom, but you know,
they're from, they're from Indianapolis where I am.
So I've, I've met them several times.
Obviously Bob is, has retired a long time ago, but yeah, they're, they're from,
(18:55):
they're from Indianapolis.
That's where, that's where it's all recorded from.
Wow.
Well, I, I listened to that station when I'm working because just, you know,
it's good to have a good laugh in the morning.
So if you see him, tell him I said, hi.
Okay.
I'll do it.
I want you now to talk about advice for others.
You know, that's something I'm sure you've been asked plenty of times,
(19:17):
but you know, people that are listening to this and,
and want to get into the world of music.
What, what advice do you have for them?
Man, you know, it's, that's always tough.
I think when getting out and performing and making fans and you can't really go
wrong with that because that's, that's how I've gotten all the opportunities to get to do what
I get to do and open, you know, and living in Northern California.
I'm back and forth from Nashville four times a year, at least.
(19:40):
Uh, you know, I think the combination of just going out and doing acoustic shows and
full band shows that really, you know, the fan base is everything, I think,
because that's just what leads you to be able to get out and make money doing shows.
And the money kind of drives, I just say the money kind of drives a lot of it,
pretty much everything.
And so, yeah, writing songs, I mean, as much as you can co-write too, but,
(20:02):
you know, I prefer to write by myself, but you know, any chance I get to write with
someone back in Nashville, I take it.
I love that.
And we've already mentioned your songs, you know, they're the title, what they're about,
but I always like to kind of just get to the heart of, if somebody finds you on Spotify,
what's your sound?
What, what do you, what, what, what's the genre of your music?
(20:23):
And I hate to ask this question about, you know, what do you compare yourself to?
Because obviously, you know, you're, you're your own person, but if, if you like this kind of music,
if you like this person, you're, you're going to like, you know, what, what I've got out.
So what's your sound?
Yeah, probably.
It's kind of a combo.
I mean, really just that Y2K country sound, you know, in the 2000, I mean, of course there's
(20:44):
some 90s country influence because that's, I've worked with a lot of those guys, Dave Gibson,
Kimo Forrest, they produced me.
And I mean, a little bit of Texas country influence, that red dirt country, it's kind of like a blend
of the 90s country, Y2K, Y2K country with the Texas country sound, I guess is what you call it.
That makes, if that makes sense.
So kind of like Aaron Watson, Casey Donahue, but with also the, you know,
(21:06):
Jake Owen, Jason Aldean kind of been there too.
So it sounds like it's just Chad Bush now sound, right?
Yeah.
There you go.
I like it.
I want to, I want to now switch because, you know, we started out with, with Rodeo,
we spent a lot of time on your music, but now we've got to talk about something else.
You've got, you've got a beef jerky line.
(21:26):
What's that all about?
Yeah. Yeah. So that was something that, you know, cause I used to shoe a lot more horses
before the music kind of was taken off and be able to shoe horses.
You got to be in shape, you know, and, and I like to eat a lot of protein.
So there was a little hole in the wall, a place called it's jerky.
This was like 10, eight or 10 years ago.
My dad was telling me about it and it's all natural, which cause some of the stuff
(21:47):
at the gas station was just kind of wiggled me out with my blood sugar.
And so started going to it's jerky and I started buying their stuff when I was working
cause it didn't, it didn't mess with my system.
And so through the years they got really successful.
Now they have like two warehouses.
They're, they're all over California, Oregon.
They've been really successful there in Costco.
(22:08):
So in 2020, when COVID hit, I just thought I said, man, I need to do something else
to make money since all my shows canceled.
And so I said, why not try a chabush and El jerky?
And I reached out and just, it worked out for me.
And it's been really great.
It's in about eight to 10 stores right now.
I sell to different places.
And yeah, it's a great deal.
So it's jerky.
(22:30):
It's Chad Bushnell is jerky basically is what it's called.
So what, I mean, you, you created this jerky.
What, what do you, I mean, what's, what's the flavors?
What have you, I mean, you said that, so you've, it's not like you've kind of partnered
with another company.
So is it just kind of things that they already had and it's putting your branding on it
or have you created your own formula, so to speak?
(22:52):
I know nothing about jerky, but.
Well, right now it's their thing.
So the honey pepper is their best seller.
And that's, and then there's regular pepper and garlic.
Those are the three flavors I have.
So basically it's a collaboration with their brand, but I've been sort of talking to him
about doing my own flavor because I have some ideas and then, you know, they've, they've
went on, they have teriyaki, they have the thick and zesty, which is my favorite.
(23:13):
And so, uh, basically I've got to give them credit for coming up with the flavors, but
the honey pepper, if you like something just sweet and it's, it's the bomb, you know, so
I'll have to send you a little bag.
Wow.
Yeah, that's, that's awesome.
Well, more to come when it comes to your jerky said you got other flavors, more to come when
it comes to your music.
How are people going to find your music?
(23:35):
And I guess the jerky to shout out all of your connection points that you want to.
Yeah.
So of course, Chad Bushner music on Facebook, Instagram, tick tock and, uh, you know,
YouTube as well.
And then all my music's on Spotify, iTunes, my website's chadbushnell.com.
And you can actually order the jerky, uh, at chadbushnell.com if you go on there.
(23:56):
And, uh, my music, you can order my albums on chadbushnell.com as well.
And so, yeah, that's all my platforms.
I got you.
Well, I really appreciate your time today.
Thanks so much, Chad.
Well, thank you so much for having me.
I've been looking forward to this and, uh, yeah, this is awesome.
So that was Chad Bush now.
I really appreciate him coming on.
I've really appreciated and enjoyed his music since he joined me a few weeks ago.
(24:19):
Definitely some, uh, some great kind of back to your roots country music.
Thought it was really, really awesome.
You know, we get into all the different songs.
He's got some, uh, just tried and true classics when it comes to, you know, the
heartache and trucks and stuff like that.
But he's also got some really unique ones as well.
So I think you, you'll find something that you enjoy.
(24:41):
I urge you to check him out on Spotify, follow along with him on all this other social media.
All that will be in the show notes.
This is your first time listening to this podcast.
You haven't already go follow along with it.
Really appreciate that.
Had really a lot of, uh, of artists on in the past if that's your thing.
But, uh, if it's not, you know, people from true crime to actors to Olympic gold medalists,
(25:03):
all kinds of people.
So hope you'll follow along not enough podcast on Instagram, not enough podcast on
Tik TOK, jacksnap.com, not enough with Jackson enough on Facebook.
Of course, leave that five star review on Apple and on Spotify,
leave the written view on Apple always really helps.
But we'll see you next week.
Take it away, Chris.
This has been not in a huff with Jackson huff.
(25:25):
Thank you for listening.
Be sure to join us next time where we will interview another amazing guest
who is sure to make you laugh or make you think or pay maybe even both.
But until then keep being awesome.
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