February 12, 2025 • 33 mins
This week, we’re once again being transported to different corners of the world by the incredible Gary Arndt. Gary is a passionate traveler, photographer, and host of the popular podcast “Everything, Everywhere Daily”.
In this episode, we dive into:
- A quick update on Gary’s latest travels and the adventures he’s experienced since our last chat in 2020.
- The growth of his daily podcast, where he shares fascinating tidbits of history, culture, and more in just 10-minute episodes.
- How his podcast has evolved over the years and the wide range of topics he’s covered, from revolutions to everyday inventions.
- Reflections on the changing landscape of travel post-pandemic.
- And, of course, a few great stories from his life of exploration.
Tune in for an inspiring conversation filled with stories from his global adventures and the wealth of knowledge he’s gathered along the way!
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There was kind of an explosion once all the lockdowns ended
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of people that were kind of, it was called revenge travel.
They were getting in the trips
that they weren't able to take.
And by all accounts, everything is back to where it was
in terms of its previous levels.
Welcome to Not in a Huff with Jackson Huff,
where we interview newsmakers, storytellers
and all around interesting people.
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Sit back, relax, unless you're driving.
And enjoy the show.
Here's Jackson.
Hello, hello, hello.
I am Jackson Huff.
This is Not in a Huff.
Thanks so much for joining me.
As always, really appreciate it.
This week's being with Gary Aren't.
Now, if you're a long time listener and think
that name sounds familiar, well, it is.
I interviewed Gary in October of 2020.
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The release date was October 14th of 2020 to be exact.
So almost four and a half years ago.
So this was fun for me in several regards.
One, just to kind of catch up with Gary.
He's a really great guy and I'll talk about in a minute
just what he's got going on.
But it was fun for me too,
because I was able to listen to that last episode
and make sure I wasn't asking the same questions again.
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And this podcast started in September of 2020.
So I got to kind of hear a very early episode.
It was the sixth episode of this podcast.
This is going to be episode 250 something, I believe.
I've almost lost track.
It's so long ago.
So at least 250 episodes ago.
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So it's fun to see just how much the podcast has changed.
You know, I was actually pleasantly surprised
with the questions I asked back then.
It wasn't half bad.
The sound wasn't great, but I did an all right job.
But when I talked to him before we talked about travel,
he is somebody who's traveled to over a hundred countries.
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He's a photographer, award-winning photographer.
We talked about that.
We talked about his podcast briefly.
That was four years ago.
We also, back then it was in the kind of
in the height of the COVID pandemic.
So we were talking about travel restrictions
and whether travel would ever go back to normal
and all that kind of stuff.
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So it's kind of fun to listen to that one too,
just a snapshot of what was happening back then.
Lots changed since then.
Obviously travel has completely opened back up
and like to think that we're on the other side
of the pandemic.
But this time we're gonna briefly hash
what we talked about before and get an update from him.
But we're mostly gonna talk about his podcast,
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Everything Everywhere Daily.
He had just started that podcast back when we last spoke.
He was, I think he said like four months into that point.
Well, that means he's almost five years into it now
and his podcast is doing very well.
It is a daily podcast.
It's one that's about 10 minutes long
and every day he teaches a different subject.
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He teaches, you know, one week
it may be about a certain revolution.
One week may be about how Coca-Cola was created.
I don't even know if he's got those two
but just to kind of tell you different things.
Every day, I just said, and I'm gonna leave that in.
I just said one week might be this, one week might be that.
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It's because it's so unique that he does this daily.
So every day you can listen to a nice little
10 minute snapshot of learning something.
You know, if you would have started listening to that
back when we first chatted,
I think you'd be a pretty smart person
when it comes to going to the local trivia at this point
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because you would have learned a little bit
about a lot of things.
So this is a really fun chat,
really great to catch up with Gary.
Here is Gary Arndt.
Mr. Arndt, how are you?
I'm doing pretty well, how are you?
I'm good, I'm good.
Yeah, I was just saying it to you off air
but we've talked before, we talked four years ago.
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I've had, you, I guess you have the distinct pleasure
of being the second person that I ever talked to again.
The last time it was just a year apart
but this is four years apart.
So I definitely don't wanna just do a rehash
of what we talked about before
but I want kind of a little bit of a snapshot
of who you are.
That way if people hadn't checked out that episode
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from four years ago, I don't know why they haven't
but if they haven't, they kind of know who Gary is.
Let's see, I started an internet company in the 90s,
sold it for the dot com bubble burst,
went back to school for a bit,
hatched the plan to travel around the world for a year,
sold my home in 2007,
ended up traveling the world for 13 years.
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That ended during the pandemic
and I pivoted and launched a podcast
and that's probably the biggest thing that's happened
since I last talked to you
because the podcast has exploded since then.
Yeah, and I listened to that episode here two days ago
just to kind of check
and it was a nice little walk down memory lane.
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The thing that I realized is it was a pretty good interview.
I just, I'm so glad that I have an editor now
because there was some crazy parts outside of that
but I want to, I guess I wanna stop at,
last time we talked, we talked a lot about travel
and we talked a lot about COVID
because most times I feel like a nice little four year span
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is not a huge difference in people's life
but where we were in 2020 and where we are in 2024,
definitely when it comes to the travel world
is quite different.
So have you traveled much since 2020?
I know back then nobody was traveling.
No, I have not traveled at all.
I mean, other than like going to a conference
once or twice a year,
you'll note my voice is kind of hoarse
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and that's because I went to Podfest in Orlando
the weekend before and now every time I fly
or go through an airport, I get sick
and this is kind of the result of it.
Oh, well, that's no fun at all.
I guess let's talk about, maybe you haven't traveled
but we were talking a lot about just how travel
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was going to change and how we thought travel
was gonna change from then on.
And you mentioned in our last conversation
about how you thought that,
hey, I think that business travel is gonna change
that I think that people are going to do Zooms
and web conferences more and man, was that ever correct?
I feel like Zoom is a part of everyone's life now.
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So you were a little bit, I guess,
kind of a future reader at that point
but how do you think outside of the business world?
How do you think travel has changed since 2020?
In a lot of ways, it's gone back to normal.
There was kind of an explosion once all the lockdowns ended
of people that were kind of, it was called revenge travel.
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They were getting in the trips
that they weren't able to take.
And by all accounts, everything is back to where it was
in terms of its previous levels
and probably a little bit higher beyond that.
If you're an American, things are great right now
because the US dollar is so strong
compared to foreign currencies.
We're almost at parity with the Euro,
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which spent ages since that happened
and we're at or near all time highs
against almost every other currency on earth.
So it's a really good time to travel.
Just to put it into perspective, in 2008, I was in Australia
and I think it was almost at parity with the US dollar,
one Australian dollar for one US dollar.
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And now it's like one Australian dollar
you can get for I think like 68 cents.
So I kind of want to go back and get revenge on Australia
for having spent so much money when I was there last time
and kind of do it on the cheap.
And a lot of these places like Australia
are otherwise rather expensive places to visit.
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So it's kind of a good deal.
Like I said, if you're using US dollars.
Yeah, for sure.
And I've felt that myself
because I've done plenty of revenge travel since 2020.
I think I went to nothing like you and your heyday,
but I think I've been to about 10 countries
since we last talked.
And I remember back in like 2017
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when I first started traveling to Europe,
just like you're talking about.
I think it was, and I could be wrong,
but I feel like it was almost like a $1, $20, $20,
$25, $30 for one Euro.
And when I was just there,
I think it was like a dollar for every,
a dollar seven for every Euro.
So definitely a lot easier to make your money,
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money go a little bit further.
So yeah, I think that's a,
it's a good time for us to travel.
And maybe I've got some friends
that traveled to us from Germany
and it's not a great time for them.
They're not used to it.
So it's kind of finally getting even,
like just like you said.
So I want to, I guess let's start talking about the podcast.
When we talked before,
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you had been doing the podcast for four months.
It's been a little bit longer now.
So let's talk, first introduce the podcast, what it is.
It's called Everything Everywhere Daily.
I was shocked and amazed at the time,
four months in that you were doing it every day
and we're coming up with something every day.
Again, four years later, you're still doing it,
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I think pretty much every day
and coming up with something every day.
So I guess I'm incomplete all of that,
but talk about everything Everywhere Daily.
As you mentioned, it's a daily educational show.
Episodes are about 12 to 15 minutes long
and every day is something different.
You'll learn something new every day.
One of my listeners said,
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you have everything from Crassus to molasses.
So Roman history to the episode I'm working on tonight
that I'll be working on after I'm done talking to you
or the history of soft drinks.
The one I did yesterday was the Iran hostage crisis
from 1979, 1980.
So it really runs the gamut.
And my next episode is gonna be episode number 1,668.
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I can't even imagine it.
This would probably be like episode 235
and I feel like I'm constantly busy.
So you've got a lot on your plate.
How do you come up with all these ideas?
Back then you said you had a list of a hundred ideas
and you were just trying to decide whether they're long
enough for that seven minute episode.
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But again, you just talked to over a thousand episodes.
How do these just keep coming to you?
I use the exact same Google doc that I mentioned
when I talked to you four and a half years ago now.
And I've just added to it.
So now I'm up to like 950 show ideas
plus the thousand sum that I've already done.
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And it's just a constant process.
So what does the research look like for it?
Cause you, I mean, it is a short show,
but you still have to do, I mean,
it seems like you have to do quite a bit of research
in order to create a concise thing.
Because what I've kind of learned in podcasting myself
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and listening to others is it's almost harder sometimes,
not everything, but it's so much harder sometimes
to make things concise and make sense rather than just,
blow off for 15 minutes
and eventually cover everything you need to cover.
So how do you make sure you get everything you need
in that concise format that you're so good at?
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At this point, I got it down to a science.
I've done so many, I've estimated I'm closing in on having,
so I write a script for every episode.
The scripts average 2000 words
and I'm closing in on having written three million words
for all of my scripts.
And like I said, I got it down to a science.
I can do it now in like four to six hours.
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And I usually have to have a fairly good idea
of at least generally what I'm gonna be saying
before I start.
So like I said, after this,
I'm gonna be working on the history of soft drinks.
And I've done the history of cheese, history of coffee,
history of wine, history of all this stuff.
And I already kind of have a good idea
of the way things are gonna go in my head.
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And it starts out going back to ancient times
where the Romans and the Egyptians and other cultures,
they basically put flavoring in water.
This kind of became a bit more advanced
during the Islamic caliphate
because they couldn't drink alcohol
where they created syrups to create flavored drinks.
And then things really took off in the 18th century
with the development of carbonated water.
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And then from there, it's Dr. Pepper Coca-Cola
and all the modern stuff that we know of today.
Yeah, so you just kind of went through an episode there,
but is all this in your head?
What's the research look like?
The research, it's a process.
Like I said, if I put it on the list,
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then I at least have a very rough idea
of what the topic is about.
And then from there,
once it gets closer to actually doing it,
it's a matter of figuring out some of the specifics
of how I want the story to go
and then doing research, getting some more data,
years, names of particular individuals
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that are important, things like that.
But like I said, I usually have a good idea beforehand
and I get ideas from everywhere.
The biggest source of new ideas is other episodes.
A good example, a couple of days ago,
I did one on crazy plots that were hatched by the CIA,
including one where they did surgery on a cat
to put a radio receiver in its ear.
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They put a wire down its tail to act as an antenna
and the cat got killed like immediately by a car
when they let it go.
It was supposed to be a spy cat.
But there were so many crazy ideas
with regards to just Fidel Castro
that I'm just gonna do a full episode
on the CIA trying to kill Fidel Castro.
Well, I just wonder, again, pairing our podcast
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up against each other when it comes to just,
I started mine around the same time as you did
and I don't wanna say got burnt out,
but I definitely got burnt out of editing it.
So I'm so glad that I don't have to do that part anymore.
You talked about how you do it every day
and that it spends four to six hours doing it.
So what's the hardest part of keeping,
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I guess, the daily grind going,
literally the daily grind going with this podcast?
It's a job.
This is my job.
And at this point, it's a full-time job.
It's easily paying for all my expenses
and it's doing quite well.
And I just treat it as such.
If people go in to work for eight hours a day,
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we don't say, oh my gosh, how do you do it?
Because it's the top priority in my life,
I just treat it like a job.
And of all the jobs you can have, it's not a bad one.
I don't feel like it would be at all.
I guess, what's your listener base look like?
Given, again, it's a daily thing.
Do you find that you have people that,
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when they're brushing their teeth,
they've gotta listen to everything everywhere daily
and most of your listeners are daily listeners.
Do people kinda drop in when topics make sense to them
or what's that look like you think?
It's across the board.
So to give you an idea, I went and checked my numbers.
I last talked to you in October of 2020.
In October of 2020, my show got 25,800 downloads.
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Now, I get that before noon every day.
And I'm doing about one and a half million downloads
a month.
So the show has just exploded.
And I get people that listen with parents with their kids.
They'll listen at breakfast.
I've had people tell me they listen
when they drop their kids off at school.
I got truck drivers, I got mail delivery people.
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I got professors, people from every walk of life,
anybody who's curious.
If you look on my Spotify demographics by age,
it's like flat through every age group.
It's kind of the same, which is kind of remarkable.
So it's young, old, people of working age.
It's really kind of hard to pin down
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what the demographics of the show are like.
What about as far as most of your listeners in the US?
I think back when we were talking very, very close to that,
I had talked to somebody who was pretty famous
in the Philippines.
So ever since then, I've got a large following
in the Philippines that I never expected.
Do you have an area that you didn't expect
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that you're really popular and Oman or something?
I briefly had a lot of people in Iran that listened.
I have a sizable audience in the Philippines.
There's this one guy who says he has a restaurant
and he just lets the show play all day long.
Oh, that's awesome.
In the restaurant and the people kind of like it
because it's very different than just playing music.
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But I would say about 75% of the audience is American,
followed by Canada, UK, Australia,
and other major English speaking countries,
of which I would consider the Philippines one.
Yeah, no, no, for sure.
And you've already kind of touched on a few topics
that you've covered recently,
but I want you, I mean, it's almost impossible.
(17:27):
Again, you've talked about a thousand,
you've got over a thousand episodes,
but what's some of your favorite things that you've covered?
And I know that's a hard question.
I do a lot of stuff on Roman history.
I do episodes on mathematics,
which are becoming harder to do
because explaining math on a podcast
without visual aids is very difficult.
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I'll do some science and technology,
again, when I can explain the concept.
So I did an episode in the last month
on the origins of quantum mechanics,
kind of explaining how it got developed
and what was the purpose of it.
And it was all to solve a problem that nobody could solve.
And so this one guy came up with a solution.
It's like, well, if we break everything up
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into tiny little units, this works.
But of course, really, that's not reality,
but it turns out that was reality.
I always try to kind of just mix it up
so I don't do the same thing two days in a row.
That way, if you don't like something one day,
you'll like it the next day.
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense for sure.
And you're, I mean, you're the seasoned pro,
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so I feel like I need to be taking notes
as I'm asking this question,
but what do you say to people who do want to start a podcast
or they want to grow their audience, that kind of thing?
What do you say to other podcasters?
Well, if you want to grow your audience,
you got to get your name out there,
which means doing things like I'm doing,
like appearing as a guest on other podcasts.
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I advertise on other podcasts.
I do ad swaps.
I buy ads on shows.
I buy them on podcast apps.
So I'm willing to spend money for marketing.
And what I've found is that really pays off.
Another big advantage I have is because it's a daily show,
I am creating more episodes,
which means more opportunities for discovery.
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And I think a lot of podcasters would be better off,
even if they have a weekly show,
to do a second show every week.
Doesn't have to be an interview.
It could just be a solo show.
And a lot of people I know that have done that,
that had interview shows
and they started to do a solo show once a week,
find that the solo show gets more downloads
than the interviews.
Because the interviews are more often than not
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going to be dependent upon who is being interviewed.
And there's a lot of interview podcasts that I listen to.
And if the person that are interviewing
is not something I'm interested in,
I'll usually skip it.
Because there also tend to be a much larger commitment.
You know, episode of Joe Rogan can go three hours.
No, that's 100% true.
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I think that's exactly what this podcast,
I feel like that's why I asked you that question too.
You know, it does matter very much of who I'm interviewing
and they're following just as much as my own.
So I think that's a huge thing.
I really appreciate, I guess, your candidness with that.
And we were talking about,
(20:16):
Candid, I wanna talk about,
you know, when we talked last time,
you talked about photography.
And that's the one thing that I'm most embarrassed about,
about our last interview.
I feel like I was,
you talked about all these really cool things
that you had taken pictures of.
And I just, at that point, I was not prepared to,
I guess, go off script.
And I just, I kind of just almost interrupted you
(20:39):
and didn't let you really talk much about photography
because I didn't really have questions prepared.
So I want you to tell us a little bit more
about your photography
and are you still collecting National Geographics?
I can answer the second question first.
Yeah, you very much are.
So this was the year that I actually unpacked
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and a lot of the stuff that I originally put away
back in 2007 when I started to travel.
And one of those things were all my National Geographics.
They're extremely heavy, they're bulky,
and I had no place to put them before.
So I got a new place now.
I got room for them, so I was able to finally do that.
As for photography, that's the one thing
(21:24):
because I'm not traveling as much anymore
and I'm doing more, I'm focusing on the podcast.
I've really not done any photography at all
since the pandemic started.
But I still have all my gear.
And it's something that was a,
there are a lot of people that still know me more
for photography than even for podcasting.
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Yeah.
Do you feel like, now that you've got this show
and something that people expect to hear every day
that if you wanted to, you still could travel
or is that one of the things you've given up
because of the show that it would make it
a lot more difficult?
I could, but I wouldn't be traveling like I did before.
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I wouldn't be running around constantly.
I could go somewhere and just do the show in that place.
In fact, I was thinking of going to Australia this winter
but I just haven't done it.
But I could pretty much do that at any time.
As long as I have an internet connection, I'm fine.
I think that I may have to buy like a,
I probably wouldn't take this microphone with me
(22:31):
because it's way too big.
But there are smaller versions of this
that I could easily pack.
I have most of what I would need for like a remote kit
for traveling already taken care of.
So it's really just a matter of doing it.
So this last, like I said, this last year,
it's kind of been, the show's been doing really well
(22:52):
and I've been kind of tying up loose ends.
And this next year, I'm really gonna be focusing
on the growth of the show.
And I think that the opportunity is finally there
for me to maybe go somewhere again
and to record the show remotely.
Where that'll be, I don't know yet.
Yeah, well, we'll have to stay tuned to find out.
I do wanna go back very briefly to the National Geographic
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just because something that I wondered about many,
it's like four or five years ago,
because I guess I collect ephemera.
I collect all that kind of stuff
and I had came across some National Geographics
and I thought, oh man, this is really cool.
This is from like 1902.
These were maybe really cool
but what I've found from National Geographic is,
(23:36):
there's key issues and then you got like the first 10
that are worth something.
And then in the middle, early 1900s are just cool.
That's basically all I can say is they're cool.
They're not worth very much of anything.
Generally speaking, the older they are,
the fewer they're gonna be
and the more money they're worth.
(23:57):
I have a copy of issue one, number one,
the very first issue ever made trying to,
I think it's buried under something right now.
But that goes for a lot right now,
if you ever see it come for sale on like eBay.
But then it drops dramatically kind of after that.
So if you wanted to get something from 1902,
I think you're probably running somewhere
(24:17):
in the neighborhood of 10 to $40 an issue,
depending on the condition.
That's better than I thought.
Then I've got a couple hundred dollars worth of it
in the closet back there.
That's not too bad then.
And like most, a lot of my collection I got for free.
So like 20 years ago,
(24:37):
I put a classified ad in the newspaper just saying,
I collect national geographics.
I will take them off your hands.
And a lot of people will have them
from their parents or whatever.
They feel bad about throwing them away.
And so I got a lot.
And that's how I got the bulk of my collection.
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There are a couple of other things that I,
I had to kind of scour on eBay,
but for the most part, that's where,
the other thing is that I don't have anything
since I started traveling
because I stopped subscribing in 2007.
So I now have this gap of recency for the,
you know, like the last 15 years.
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Yeah. Yeah.
And I think that's the thing with National Geographic too,
where I talked to a guy that was a big,
a feminine, a femora dealer,
and the kind of the thing that he said was,
everyone in the world's grandma has a, you know,
newspaper from when JFK was shot.
And they think, oh my gosh, that's probably worth money.
(25:40):
But the thing is, millions of people save that,
save that exact same newspaper.
And I feel like that's almost what you have a problem with,
with National Geographic that almost everyone
kept their National Geographic
and they don't want to get rid of them.
They feel bad about throwing them away.
And there's more of that, more of those out there
than a lot of other publications.
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I don't know if you feel the same or not.
That's true.
And there's not a lot of people that collect them.
So this isn't like collecting baseball cards
or comic books where there's like a whole industry
set up around it.
In fact, very few people collect magazines at all.
I think collecting like Life magazine
or something like that would actually be
(26:23):
kind of an interesting thing to collect
because they have so many iconic covers,
especially if you go back to like the mid 20th century.
But yeah, I enjoy National Geographic and its history.
And I think one of these days
I'll probably even do a podcast on it.
That was gonna be my next question.
Have you done any podcasting on National Geographic?
(26:44):
But sounds like, is it already on your list?
It's on, it is on the big list.
And the day I pull the trigger on it,
it's gonna be one of the easiest episodes
for me to do because I could probably
just do most of it from memory.
I have no doubt about that.
Do you feel like, I guess, how do you,
(27:05):
let's go back to the podcast, enough National Geographic.
I took us down a rabbit hole, but how do you,
again, because you're so good at making them
very informative, but also really concise.
So how do you decide,
these topics that are really big,
obviously you just covered the hostage crisis.
(27:25):
I mean, there's whole three, four hour documentaries
about that, so how do you decide,
this is the most important parts for people to hear quickly.
And then also, do you have like,
nothing can go over this amount of time?
I used to do that, but it's kind of went away on my end.
Yeah, because it's a daily show,
I definitely wanna put parameters on how long it's gonna go.
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And the longer it goes, that's more work for me.
But so for an episode like that,
I think one of the biggest things is,
the actual hostage taking itself
is one of the least interesting things about it.
The interesting thing is, why did this happen?
And then what were the ramifications after it happened?
(28:07):
I mean, you can explain what happened.
They were taken prisoner, they were treated poorly,
they were subject to torture and other things.
That part is very brief.
And it's like explaining a lot of historical battles.
Explaining why the battle happened
is for the most part, more important
than explaining the actual details
(28:28):
of what happened in the battle.
Like, oh, their left flank moved over here.
And there's only a couple battles in history
where what happened in the battle really matters.
Like the Battle of Cannae with Hannibal against Rome.
That was in the Second Punic War.
That was a unique battle in terms of the strategy.
(28:49):
But for the most part,
that's really not something you talk about.
It's really about what was the cause of it?
How was it resolved?
And then what was the legacy of it?
And you can do that for many, many different topics.
Yeah, and how do you,
a lot of times you just, you're covering the facts.
So you'd think that would be easy,
(29:10):
but in the last four years, I do think that
polarization's only gotten more so.
So how do you, I guess, how do you make sure
that you're keeping things factually
and not making anybody upset?
Or do you just not worry about it
and you just do what you need to do?
I never talk about current events.
(29:32):
I never insert politics into anything.
And to the point where people have mentioned
that they really appreciate it.
And I've often said, people have said,
oh, you should do a thing on this topic
that's in the news right now.
I'm like, there are so many different news outlets
that will talk about this.
You do not need me.
I'm not adding anything to the conversation
by talking about it.
(29:53):
I'm gonna keep focusing on what I'm doing.
And if you want politics and current events,
there are thousands of outlets that you can turn to
to get that information.
Yeah, no, I think that's an important thing for sure.
I think people are desperately seeking that out.
I try my best to offer that same thing.
I rarely go into anything of very much controversy.
(30:15):
So I like that for sure.
I don't wanna keep you too much longer.
You've got another podcast to record.
So again, tell people how they're gonna find
not just the podcast,
you've got some other things going on.
Talk about all things, all things Gary,
art and then all things, everything, everywhere daily.
(30:36):
All things me at this point in my life
is pretty much the podcast.
That's kind of taken up everything.
There are a couple other things I'm doing.
I have a smaller podcast that I help out with.
It's not really my podcast.
There's a local micro brewery in town
and I know the owners and I've helped them launch a podcast
and I'm kind of the host of it, but they're the experts.
(30:58):
The owner, I shouldn't say the owners
are a former astrophysicist from NASA
and his wife is a professor of chemistry.
So we talk about the science, the history, the culture
and the economics of beer and brewing,
which is kind of a very different perspective.
Other than that, that's kind of it.
(31:19):
And I had a very large DVD collection
before I started traveling and I've unpacked that
and I've started the process of replacing everything
with Blu-rays because they didn't exist
to kind of date when I started traveling.
So I'm in the process of that and expanding my collection.
I quite honestly have a pretty great movie collection.
It's almost up to a thousand different films
(31:41):
with no garbage.
So I don't have a single MCU title yet, I don't think.
Oh, there you go.
That's good.
So Everything Everywhere Daily is kind of
where we're finding Gary out these days
and I assume darn near anywhere that podcasts can be found,
they're gonna find the podcast, right?
Yeah, wherever you're listening to this right now,
you can just search for Everything Everywhere
(32:02):
and you will find it.
I got you.
I really appreciate your time.
Thanks so much.
Thanks for having me.
So that was Gary Yarn.
I really appreciate his time.
Great to catch up with him again.
I'll walk kind of down memory lane to allow me
to listen to that first episode again.
I really, really appreciate his time.
Learned a lot more about his podcast.
Early you check that out.
(32:23):
Like I mentioned, like he mentioned an everyday podcast
and you're gonna learn a ton about a lot of different things.
It's a nice little 10 minute snapshot.
You can listen to it while you're brushing your teeth,
listen to it while you're driving out of your neighborhood.
You know, it's quick enough,
just a little digestible pieces of information.
I know he'd appreciate you listening in.
(32:45):
So I urge you to do that.
I'm just wondering what he's gonna have going on
in four years when we talk again.
I mean, he's done so much in these last four years.
He's just gonna, I don't know,
have taken over the world in the next four years.
I'm not sure, but appreciate you, Gary.
Go check out his podcast.
A link to all that will be in the show notes.
Everything, everywhere, daily.
(33:06):
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There was kind of an explosion once all the lockdowns ended
(00:04):
of people that were kind of, it was called revenge travel.
They were getting in the trips
that they weren't able to take.
And by all accounts, everything is back to where it was
in terms of its previous levels.
Welcome to Not in a Huff with Jackson Huff,
where we interview newsmakers, storytellers
and all around interesting people.
(00:25):
Sit back, relax, unless you're driving.
And enjoy the show.
Here's Jackson.
Hello, hello, hello.
I am Jackson Huff.
This is Not in a Huff.
Thanks so much for joining me.
As always, really appreciate it.
This week's being with Gary Aren't.
Now, if you're a long time listener and think
that name sounds familiar, well, it is.
I interviewed Gary in October of 2020.
(00:48):
The release date was October 14th of 2020 to be exact.
So almost four and a half years ago.
So this was fun for me in several regards.
One, just to kind of catch up with Gary.
He's a really great guy and I'll talk about in a minute
just what he's got going on.
But it was fun for me too,
because I was able to listen to that last episode
and make sure I wasn't asking the same questions again.
(01:11):
And this podcast started in September of 2020.
So I got to kind of hear a very early episode.
It was the sixth episode of this podcast.
This is going to be episode 250 something, I believe.
I've almost lost track.
It's so long ago.
So at least 250 episodes ago.
(01:32):
So it's fun to see just how much the podcast has changed.
You know, I was actually pleasantly surprised
with the questions I asked back then.
It wasn't half bad.
The sound wasn't great, but I did an all right job.
But when I talked to him before we talked about travel,
he is somebody who's traveled to over a hundred countries.
(01:54):
He's a photographer, award-winning photographer.
We talked about that.
We talked about his podcast briefly.
That was four years ago.
We also, back then it was in the kind of
in the height of the COVID pandemic.
So we were talking about travel restrictions
and whether travel would ever go back to normal
and all that kind of stuff.
(02:14):
So it's kind of fun to listen to that one too,
just a snapshot of what was happening back then.
Lots changed since then.
Obviously travel has completely opened back up
and like to think that we're on the other side
of the pandemic.
But this time we're gonna briefly hash
what we talked about before and get an update from him.
But we're mostly gonna talk about his podcast,
(02:37):
Everything Everywhere Daily.
He had just started that podcast back when we last spoke.
He was, I think he said like four months into that point.
Well, that means he's almost five years into it now
and his podcast is doing very well.
It is a daily podcast.
It's one that's about 10 minutes long
and every day he teaches a different subject.
(02:59):
He teaches, you know, one week
it may be about a certain revolution.
One week may be about how Coca-Cola was created.
I don't even know if he's got those two
but just to kind of tell you different things.
Every day, I just said, and I'm gonna leave that in.
I just said one week might be this, one week might be that.
(03:19):
It's because it's so unique that he does this daily.
So every day you can listen to a nice little
10 minute snapshot of learning something.
You know, if you would have started listening to that
back when we first chatted,
I think you'd be a pretty smart person
when it comes to going to the local trivia at this point
(03:39):
because you would have learned a little bit
about a lot of things.
So this is a really fun chat,
really great to catch up with Gary.
Here is Gary Arndt.
Mr. Arndt, how are you?
I'm doing pretty well, how are you?
I'm good, I'm good.
Yeah, I was just saying it to you off air
but we've talked before, we talked four years ago.
(04:00):
I've had, you, I guess you have the distinct pleasure
of being the second person that I ever talked to again.
The last time it was just a year apart
but this is four years apart.
So I definitely don't wanna just do a rehash
of what we talked about before
but I want kind of a little bit of a snapshot
of who you are.
That way if people hadn't checked out that episode
(04:21):
from four years ago, I don't know why they haven't
but if they haven't, they kind of know who Gary is.
Let's see, I started an internet company in the 90s,
sold it for the dot com bubble burst,
went back to school for a bit,
hatched the plan to travel around the world for a year,
sold my home in 2007,
ended up traveling the world for 13 years.
(04:42):
That ended during the pandemic
and I pivoted and launched a podcast
and that's probably the biggest thing that's happened
since I last talked to you
because the podcast has exploded since then.
Yeah, and I listened to that episode here two days ago
just to kind of check
and it was a nice little walk down memory lane.
(05:04):
The thing that I realized is it was a pretty good interview.
I just, I'm so glad that I have an editor now
because there was some crazy parts outside of that
but I want to, I guess I wanna stop at,
last time we talked, we talked a lot about travel
and we talked a lot about COVID
because most times I feel like a nice little four year span
(05:25):
is not a huge difference in people's life
but where we were in 2020 and where we are in 2024,
definitely when it comes to the travel world
is quite different.
So have you traveled much since 2020?
I know back then nobody was traveling.
No, I have not traveled at all.
I mean, other than like going to a conference
once or twice a year,
you'll note my voice is kind of hoarse
(05:48):
and that's because I went to Podfest in Orlando
the weekend before and now every time I fly
or go through an airport, I get sick
and this is kind of the result of it.
Oh, well, that's no fun at all.
I guess let's talk about, maybe you haven't traveled
but we were talking a lot about just how travel
(06:10):
was going to change and how we thought travel
was gonna change from then on.
And you mentioned in our last conversation
about how you thought that,
hey, I think that business travel is gonna change
that I think that people are going to do Zooms
and web conferences more and man, was that ever correct?
I feel like Zoom is a part of everyone's life now.
(06:30):
So you were a little bit, I guess,
kind of a future reader at that point
but how do you think outside of the business world?
How do you think travel has changed since 2020?
In a lot of ways, it's gone back to normal.
There was kind of an explosion once all the lockdowns ended
of people that were kind of, it was called revenge travel.
(06:54):
They were getting in the trips
that they weren't able to take.
And by all accounts, everything is back to where it was
in terms of its previous levels
and probably a little bit higher beyond that.
If you're an American, things are great right now
because the US dollar is so strong
compared to foreign currencies.
We're almost at parity with the Euro,
(07:16):
which spent ages since that happened
and we're at or near all time highs
against almost every other currency on earth.
So it's a really good time to travel.
Just to put it into perspective, in 2008, I was in Australia
and I think it was almost at parity with the US dollar,
one Australian dollar for one US dollar.
(07:36):
And now it's like one Australian dollar
you can get for I think like 68 cents.
So I kind of want to go back and get revenge on Australia
for having spent so much money when I was there last time
and kind of do it on the cheap.
And a lot of these places like Australia
are otherwise rather expensive places to visit.
(07:57):
So it's kind of a good deal.
Like I said, if you're using US dollars.
Yeah, for sure.
And I've felt that myself
because I've done plenty of revenge travel since 2020.
I think I went to nothing like you and your heyday,
but I think I've been to about 10 countries
since we last talked.
And I remember back in like 2017
(08:20):
when I first started traveling to Europe,
just like you're talking about.
I think it was, and I could be wrong,
but I feel like it was almost like a $1, $20, $20,
$25, $30 for one Euro.
And when I was just there,
I think it was like a dollar for every,
a dollar seven for every Euro.
So definitely a lot easier to make your money,
(08:42):
money go a little bit further.
So yeah, I think that's a,
it's a good time for us to travel.
And maybe I've got some friends
that traveled to us from Germany
and it's not a great time for them.
They're not used to it.
So it's kind of finally getting even,
like just like you said.
So I want to, I guess let's start talking about the podcast.
When we talked before,
(09:02):
you had been doing the podcast for four months.
It's been a little bit longer now.
So let's talk, first introduce the podcast, what it is.
It's called Everything Everywhere Daily.
I was shocked and amazed at the time,
four months in that you were doing it every day
and we're coming up with something every day.
Again, four years later, you're still doing it,
(09:23):
I think pretty much every day
and coming up with something every day.
So I guess I'm incomplete all of that,
but talk about everything Everywhere Daily.
As you mentioned, it's a daily educational show.
Episodes are about 12 to 15 minutes long
and every day is something different.
You'll learn something new every day.
One of my listeners said,
(09:44):
you have everything from Crassus to molasses.
So Roman history to the episode I'm working on tonight
that I'll be working on after I'm done talking to you
or the history of soft drinks.
The one I did yesterday was the Iran hostage crisis
from 1979, 1980.
So it really runs the gamut.
And my next episode is gonna be episode number 1,668.
(10:10):
I can't even imagine it.
This would probably be like episode 235
and I feel like I'm constantly busy.
So you've got a lot on your plate.
How do you come up with all these ideas?
Back then you said you had a list of a hundred ideas
and you were just trying to decide whether they're long
enough for that seven minute episode.
(10:32):
But again, you just talked to over a thousand episodes.
How do these just keep coming to you?
I use the exact same Google doc that I mentioned
when I talked to you four and a half years ago now.
And I've just added to it.
So now I'm up to like 950 show ideas
plus the thousand sum that I've already done.
(10:52):
And it's just a constant process.
So what does the research look like for it?
Cause you, I mean, it is a short show,
but you still have to do, I mean,
it seems like you have to do quite a bit of research
in order to create a concise thing.
Because what I've kind of learned in podcasting myself
(11:13):
and listening to others is it's almost harder sometimes,
not everything, but it's so much harder sometimes
to make things concise and make sense rather than just,
blow off for 15 minutes
and eventually cover everything you need to cover.
So how do you make sure you get everything you need
in that concise format that you're so good at?
(11:34):
At this point, I got it down to a science.
I've done so many, I've estimated I'm closing in on having,
so I write a script for every episode.
The scripts average 2000 words
and I'm closing in on having written three million words
for all of my scripts.
And like I said, I got it down to a science.
I can do it now in like four to six hours.
(11:58):
And I usually have to have a fairly good idea
of at least generally what I'm gonna be saying
before I start.
So like I said, after this,
I'm gonna be working on the history of soft drinks.
And I've done the history of cheese, history of coffee,
history of wine, history of all this stuff.
And I already kind of have a good idea
of the way things are gonna go in my head.
(12:19):
And it starts out going back to ancient times
where the Romans and the Egyptians and other cultures,
they basically put flavoring in water.
This kind of became a bit more advanced
during the Islamic caliphate
because they couldn't drink alcohol
where they created syrups to create flavored drinks.
And then things really took off in the 18th century
with the development of carbonated water.
(12:40):
And then from there, it's Dr. Pepper Coca-Cola
and all the modern stuff that we know of today.
Yeah, so you just kind of went through an episode there,
but is all this in your head?
What's the research look like?
The research, it's a process.
Like I said, if I put it on the list,
(13:01):
then I at least have a very rough idea
of what the topic is about.
And then from there,
once it gets closer to actually doing it,
it's a matter of figuring out some of the specifics
of how I want the story to go
and then doing research, getting some more data,
years, names of particular individuals
(13:23):
that are important, things like that.
But like I said, I usually have a good idea beforehand
and I get ideas from everywhere.
The biggest source of new ideas is other episodes.
A good example, a couple of days ago,
I did one on crazy plots that were hatched by the CIA,
including one where they did surgery on a cat
to put a radio receiver in its ear.
(13:46):
They put a wire down its tail to act as an antenna
and the cat got killed like immediately by a car
when they let it go.
It was supposed to be a spy cat.
But there were so many crazy ideas
with regards to just Fidel Castro
that I'm just gonna do a full episode
on the CIA trying to kill Fidel Castro.
Well, I just wonder, again, pairing our podcast
(14:10):
up against each other when it comes to just,
I started mine around the same time as you did
and I don't wanna say got burnt out,
but I definitely got burnt out of editing it.
So I'm so glad that I don't have to do that part anymore.
You talked about how you do it every day
and that it spends four to six hours doing it.
So what's the hardest part of keeping,
(14:32):
I guess, the daily grind going,
literally the daily grind going with this podcast?
It's a job.
This is my job.
And at this point, it's a full-time job.
It's easily paying for all my expenses
and it's doing quite well.
And I just treat it as such.
If people go in to work for eight hours a day,
(14:53):
we don't say, oh my gosh, how do you do it?
Because it's the top priority in my life,
I just treat it like a job.
And of all the jobs you can have, it's not a bad one.
I don't feel like it would be at all.
I guess, what's your listener base look like?
Given, again, it's a daily thing.
Do you find that you have people that,
(15:14):
when they're brushing their teeth,
they've gotta listen to everything everywhere daily
and most of your listeners are daily listeners.
Do people kinda drop in when topics make sense to them
or what's that look like you think?
It's across the board.
So to give you an idea, I went and checked my numbers.
I last talked to you in October of 2020.
In October of 2020, my show got 25,800 downloads.
(15:38):
Now, I get that before noon every day.
And I'm doing about one and a half million downloads
a month.
So the show has just exploded.
And I get people that listen with parents with their kids.
They'll listen at breakfast.
I've had people tell me they listen
when they drop their kids off at school.
I got truck drivers, I got mail delivery people.
(15:59):
I got professors, people from every walk of life,
anybody who's curious.
If you look on my Spotify demographics by age,
it's like flat through every age group.
It's kind of the same, which is kind of remarkable.
So it's young, old, people of working age.
It's really kind of hard to pin down
(16:21):
what the demographics of the show are like.
What about as far as most of your listeners in the US?
I think back when we were talking very, very close to that,
I had talked to somebody who was pretty famous
in the Philippines.
So ever since then, I've got a large following
in the Philippines that I never expected.
Do you have an area that you didn't expect
(16:41):
that you're really popular and Oman or something?
I briefly had a lot of people in Iran that listened.
I have a sizable audience in the Philippines.
There's this one guy who says he has a restaurant
and he just lets the show play all day long.
Oh, that's awesome.
In the restaurant and the people kind of like it
because it's very different than just playing music.
(17:03):
But I would say about 75% of the audience is American,
followed by Canada, UK, Australia,
and other major English speaking countries,
of which I would consider the Philippines one.
Yeah, no, no, for sure.
And you've already kind of touched on a few topics
that you've covered recently,
but I want you, I mean, it's almost impossible.
(17:27):
Again, you've talked about a thousand,
you've got over a thousand episodes,
but what's some of your favorite things that you've covered?
And I know that's a hard question.
I do a lot of stuff on Roman history.
I do episodes on mathematics,
which are becoming harder to do
because explaining math on a podcast
without visual aids is very difficult.
(17:49):
I'll do some science and technology,
again, when I can explain the concept.
So I did an episode in the last month
on the origins of quantum mechanics,
kind of explaining how it got developed
and what was the purpose of it.
And it was all to solve a problem that nobody could solve.
And so this one guy came up with a solution.
It's like, well, if we break everything up
(18:09):
into tiny little units, this works.
But of course, really, that's not reality,
but it turns out that was reality.
I always try to kind of just mix it up
so I don't do the same thing two days in a row.
That way, if you don't like something one day,
you'll like it the next day.
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense for sure.
And you're, I mean, you're the seasoned pro,
(18:31):
so I feel like I need to be taking notes
as I'm asking this question,
but what do you say to people who do want to start a podcast
or they want to grow their audience, that kind of thing?
What do you say to other podcasters?
Well, if you want to grow your audience,
you got to get your name out there,
which means doing things like I'm doing,
like appearing as a guest on other podcasts.
(18:53):
I advertise on other podcasts.
I do ad swaps.
I buy ads on shows.
I buy them on podcast apps.
So I'm willing to spend money for marketing.
And what I've found is that really pays off.
Another big advantage I have is because it's a daily show,
I am creating more episodes,
which means more opportunities for discovery.
(19:14):
And I think a lot of podcasters would be better off,
even if they have a weekly show,
to do a second show every week.
Doesn't have to be an interview.
It could just be a solo show.
And a lot of people I know that have done that,
that had interview shows
and they started to do a solo show once a week,
find that the solo show gets more downloads
than the interviews.
Because the interviews are more often than not
(19:35):
going to be dependent upon who is being interviewed.
And there's a lot of interview podcasts that I listen to.
And if the person that are interviewing
is not something I'm interested in,
I'll usually skip it.
Because there also tend to be a much larger commitment.
You know, episode of Joe Rogan can go three hours.
No, that's 100% true.
(19:56):
I think that's exactly what this podcast,
I feel like that's why I asked you that question too.
You know, it does matter very much of who I'm interviewing
and they're following just as much as my own.
So I think that's a huge thing.
I really appreciate, I guess, your candidness with that.
And we were talking about,
(20:16):
Candid, I wanna talk about,
you know, when we talked last time,
you talked about photography.
And that's the one thing that I'm most embarrassed about,
about our last interview.
I feel like I was,
you talked about all these really cool things
that you had taken pictures of.
And I just, at that point, I was not prepared to,
I guess, go off script.
And I just, I kind of just almost interrupted you
(20:39):
and didn't let you really talk much about photography
because I didn't really have questions prepared.
So I want you to tell us a little bit more
about your photography
and are you still collecting National Geographics?
I can answer the second question first.
Yeah, you very much are.
So this was the year that I actually unpacked
(21:01):
and a lot of the stuff that I originally put away
back in 2007 when I started to travel.
And one of those things were all my National Geographics.
They're extremely heavy, they're bulky,
and I had no place to put them before.
So I got a new place now.
I got room for them, so I was able to finally do that.
As for photography, that's the one thing
(21:24):
because I'm not traveling as much anymore
and I'm doing more, I'm focusing on the podcast.
I've really not done any photography at all
since the pandemic started.
But I still have all my gear.
And it's something that was a,
there are a lot of people that still know me more
for photography than even for podcasting.
(21:47):
Yeah.
Do you feel like, now that you've got this show
and something that people expect to hear every day
that if you wanted to, you still could travel
or is that one of the things you've given up
because of the show that it would make it
a lot more difficult?
I could, but I wouldn't be traveling like I did before.
(22:09):
I wouldn't be running around constantly.
I could go somewhere and just do the show in that place.
In fact, I was thinking of going to Australia this winter
but I just haven't done it.
But I could pretty much do that at any time.
As long as I have an internet connection, I'm fine.
I think that I may have to buy like a,
I probably wouldn't take this microphone with me
(22:31):
because it's way too big.
But there are smaller versions of this
that I could easily pack.
I have most of what I would need for like a remote kit
for traveling already taken care of.
So it's really just a matter of doing it.
So this last, like I said, this last year,
it's kind of been, the show's been doing really well
(22:52):
and I've been kind of tying up loose ends.
And this next year, I'm really gonna be focusing
on the growth of the show.
And I think that the opportunity is finally there
for me to maybe go somewhere again
and to record the show remotely.
Where that'll be, I don't know yet.
Yeah, well, we'll have to stay tuned to find out.
I do wanna go back very briefly to the National Geographic
(23:15):
just because something that I wondered about many,
it's like four or five years ago,
because I guess I collect ephemera.
I collect all that kind of stuff
and I had came across some National Geographics
and I thought, oh man, this is really cool.
This is from like 1902.
These were maybe really cool
but what I've found from National Geographic is,
(23:36):
there's key issues and then you got like the first 10
that are worth something.
And then in the middle, early 1900s are just cool.
That's basically all I can say is they're cool.
They're not worth very much of anything.
Generally speaking, the older they are,
the fewer they're gonna be
and the more money they're worth.
(23:57):
I have a copy of issue one, number one,
the very first issue ever made trying to,
I think it's buried under something right now.
But that goes for a lot right now,
if you ever see it come for sale on like eBay.
But then it drops dramatically kind of after that.
So if you wanted to get something from 1902,
I think you're probably running somewhere
(24:17):
in the neighborhood of 10 to $40 an issue,
depending on the condition.
That's better than I thought.
Then I've got a couple hundred dollars worth of it
in the closet back there.
That's not too bad then.
And like most, a lot of my collection I got for free.
So like 20 years ago,
(24:37):
I put a classified ad in the newspaper just saying,
I collect national geographics.
I will take them off your hands.
And a lot of people will have them
from their parents or whatever.
They feel bad about throwing them away.
And so I got a lot.
And that's how I got the bulk of my collection.
(24:58):
There are a couple of other things that I,
I had to kind of scour on eBay,
but for the most part, that's where,
the other thing is that I don't have anything
since I started traveling
because I stopped subscribing in 2007.
So I now have this gap of recency for the,
you know, like the last 15 years.
(25:19):
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think that's the thing with National Geographic too,
where I talked to a guy that was a big,
a feminine, a femora dealer,
and the kind of the thing that he said was,
everyone in the world's grandma has a, you know,
newspaper from when JFK was shot.
And they think, oh my gosh, that's probably worth money.
(25:40):
But the thing is, millions of people save that,
save that exact same newspaper.
And I feel like that's almost what you have a problem with,
with National Geographic that almost everyone
kept their National Geographic
and they don't want to get rid of them.
They feel bad about throwing them away.
And there's more of that, more of those out there
than a lot of other publications.
(26:01):
I don't know if you feel the same or not.
That's true.
And there's not a lot of people that collect them.
So this isn't like collecting baseball cards
or comic books where there's like a whole industry
set up around it.
In fact, very few people collect magazines at all.
I think collecting like Life magazine
or something like that would actually be
(26:23):
kind of an interesting thing to collect
because they have so many iconic covers,
especially if you go back to like the mid 20th century.
But yeah, I enjoy National Geographic and its history.
And I think one of these days
I'll probably even do a podcast on it.
That was gonna be my next question.
Have you done any podcasting on National Geographic?
(26:44):
But sounds like, is it already on your list?
It's on, it is on the big list.
And the day I pull the trigger on it,
it's gonna be one of the easiest episodes
for me to do because I could probably
just do most of it from memory.
I have no doubt about that.
Do you feel like, I guess, how do you,
(27:05):
let's go back to the podcast, enough National Geographic.
I took us down a rabbit hole, but how do you,
again, because you're so good at making them
very informative, but also really concise.
So how do you decide,
these topics that are really big,
obviously you just covered the hostage crisis.
(27:25):
I mean, there's whole three, four hour documentaries
about that, so how do you decide,
this is the most important parts for people to hear quickly.
And then also, do you have like,
nothing can go over this amount of time?
I used to do that, but it's kind of went away on my end.
Yeah, because it's a daily show,
I definitely wanna put parameters on how long it's gonna go.
(27:46):
And the longer it goes, that's more work for me.
But so for an episode like that,
I think one of the biggest things is,
the actual hostage taking itself
is one of the least interesting things about it.
The interesting thing is, why did this happen?
And then what were the ramifications after it happened?
(28:07):
I mean, you can explain what happened.
They were taken prisoner, they were treated poorly,
they were subject to torture and other things.
That part is very brief.
And it's like explaining a lot of historical battles.
Explaining why the battle happened
is for the most part, more important
than explaining the actual details
(28:28):
of what happened in the battle.
Like, oh, their left flank moved over here.
And there's only a couple battles in history
where what happened in the battle really matters.
Like the Battle of Cannae with Hannibal against Rome.
That was in the Second Punic War.
That was a unique battle in terms of the strategy.
(28:49):
But for the most part,
that's really not something you talk about.
It's really about what was the cause of it?
How was it resolved?
And then what was the legacy of it?
And you can do that for many, many different topics.
Yeah, and how do you,
a lot of times you just, you're covering the facts.
So you'd think that would be easy,
(29:10):
but in the last four years, I do think that
polarization's only gotten more so.
So how do you, I guess, how do you make sure
that you're keeping things factually
and not making anybody upset?
Or do you just not worry about it
and you just do what you need to do?
I never talk about current events.
(29:32):
I never insert politics into anything.
And to the point where people have mentioned
that they really appreciate it.
And I've often said, people have said,
oh, you should do a thing on this topic
that's in the news right now.
I'm like, there are so many different news outlets
that will talk about this.
You do not need me.
I'm not adding anything to the conversation
by talking about it.
(29:53):
I'm gonna keep focusing on what I'm doing.
And if you want politics and current events,
there are thousands of outlets that you can turn to
to get that information.
Yeah, no, I think that's an important thing for sure.
I think people are desperately seeking that out.
I try my best to offer that same thing.
I rarely go into anything of very much controversy.
(30:15):
So I like that for sure.
I don't wanna keep you too much longer.
You've got another podcast to record.
So again, tell people how they're gonna find
not just the podcast,
you've got some other things going on.
Talk about all things, all things Gary,
art and then all things, everything, everywhere daily.
(30:36):
All things me at this point in my life
is pretty much the podcast.
That's kind of taken up everything.
There are a couple other things I'm doing.
I have a smaller podcast that I help out with.
It's not really my podcast.
There's a local micro brewery in town
and I know the owners and I've helped them launch a podcast
and I'm kind of the host of it, but they're the experts.
(30:58):
The owner, I shouldn't say the owners
are a former astrophysicist from NASA
and his wife is a professor of chemistry.
So we talk about the science, the history, the culture
and the economics of beer and brewing,
which is kind of a very different perspective.
Other than that, that's kind of it.
(31:19):
And I had a very large DVD collection
before I started traveling and I've unpacked that
and I've started the process of replacing everything
with Blu-rays because they didn't exist
to kind of date when I started traveling.
So I'm in the process of that and expanding my collection.
I quite honestly have a pretty great movie collection.
It's almost up to a thousand different films
(31:41):
with no garbage.
So I don't have a single MCU title yet, I don't think.
Oh, there you go.
That's good.
So Everything Everywhere Daily is kind of
where we're finding Gary out these days
and I assume darn near anywhere that podcasts can be found,
they're gonna find the podcast, right?
Yeah, wherever you're listening to this right now,
you can just search for Everything Everywhere
(32:02):
and you will find it.
I got you.
I really appreciate your time.
Thanks so much.
Thanks for having me.
So that was Gary Yarn.
I really appreciate his time.
Great to catch up with him again.
I'll walk kind of down memory lane to allow me
to listen to that first episode again.
I really, really appreciate his time.
Learned a lot more about his podcast.
Early you check that out.
(32:23):
Like I mentioned, like he mentioned an everyday podcast
and you're gonna learn a ton about a lot of different things.
It's a nice little 10 minute snapshot.
You can listen to it while you're brushing your teeth,
listen to it while you're driving out of your neighborhood.
You know, it's quick enough,
just a little digestible pieces of information.
I know he'd appreciate you listening in.
(32:45):
So I urge you to do that.
I'm just wondering what he's gonna have going on
in four years when we talk again.
I mean, he's done so much in these last four years.
He's just gonna, I don't know,
have taken over the world in the next four years.
I'm not sure, but appreciate you, Gary.
Go check out his podcast.
A link to all that will be in the show notes.
Everything, everywhere, daily.
(33:06):
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(33:27):
Take it away, Chris.
This has been Not in a Huff with Jackson Huff.
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