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Speaker 1 (00:02):
real quick.
Let's have a little bonusepisode about what's been going
down on love island, uk, season12.
I absolutely had to do apodcast on this because the
harrison, lauren and tonytriangle is driving me nuts and
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it is like the perfect littleexample for some toxic
relationship stuff.
So if you've ever dated a guywho says I'm exploring my
options or I have to think aboutit, congratulations.
You've dated a Harrison.
Now let's talk about the redflag parade.
That is him.
Yes, so he's charming, he'sconfident, but he's emotionally
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withholding.
This is a classic avoidantattachment.
He uses ambiguity, the I'm notsure, I'm not sure as control,
so he never gives clear answers.
He keeps both girls confused,he keeps both girls on the back
burner and ultimately that giveshim all the options and all the
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power.
So a person like this, aHarrison, is hyper aware of
image.
He avoids depth in favor ofsurface level connection.
Right, like I am positive,there's not much depth to this
man.
He is not talking aboutprofound things.
He can barely scramble his owneggs, okay, and he always says
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that we just go to the cantinain America.
We don't actually cook forourselves.
Um, most of us in America heredo cook for ourselves.
Thank you very much.
You can just kind of tell whatkind of parents he had.
All right, he also keepscontrol by being just unsure
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enough to not get pinned downright Like he's so sure he has
all these good feelings.
But I don't know, I still havefeelings for Tone a little bit
Like that is an escape hatch,this fear of commitment and this
like I don't want to commit isnot like I really do fear
getting hurt.
It's more of a manipulativecontrol move.
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All right, let's talk about Tonyand Lauren.
They've got the same patternbut different presentation.
So you've got Tony, who I loveis the caretaker kind of persona
.
She's fiercely loyal, she'semotional.
She's trying so hard to play itcool like that.
She doesn't care, but she socares.
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You can just tell, you can seeit.
It jumps off the screen.
So she is showing signs ofanxious attachment.
So she overthinks, she needsassurance.
She's clinging to these littletiny breadcrumbs, right, like he
just gives her this tiny littleoh, I'm still thinking about
you and it puts her into aspiral.
So this is likely a traumaresponse, like if I just show
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him I'm the one he'll choose me,or if I just lecture him enough
and get him to see how he'streating me like crap.
He'll act different.
But that is not how the worldgoes.
Then you've got Lauren and she'sgot like the cool girl mask.
She presents as moreemotionally detached, but she's
still really deeply invested inbeing chosen.
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Detached but she's still reallydeeply invested in being chosen
.
She flips between being likealoof and not caring and
insecure, crying, needingcomfort from all the other girls
.
So she's a possibledisorganized or a very masked,
anxious style attachment.
So she is.
She competes quietly butcollapses emotionally when she's
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rejected.
Right?
We just saw that in the mostrecent episode where she asked
him to leave with her and he waslike I don't know, I got to
sleep on it.
What in the world?
Okay?
So here's the real dynamic andit's why this is so messy.
Harrison gives each one of thesegirls intermittent
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reinforcement, which means likeoccasional validation that keeps
them hooked.
It's not consistent.
So when we talk aboutconditioning like you got
classical conditioning, pavlovand his dogs right you ring a
bell, you give them food.
You ring a bell, you give themfood.
You ring a bell, you give themfood.
And every time you ring thebell, the dog starts salivating,
whether there's food or not,because it's been conditioned to
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believe that food is comingevery time he hears a bell.
Now think about a variablereinforcement schedule, meaning
sometimes you get the cookieafter two plays, sometimes you
get it after five plays,sometimes you get it after seven
plays, sometimes you get itafter 20 plays, sometimes you
get it after seven plays.
Sometimes you get it after 20plays, sometimes you get it
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after one play.
That's how Vegas works.
That's how gambling works.
It's a variable reinforcementso you never know when the hit
is coming, and that's veryaddictive.
So he is doing that to themwhich is keeping them hooked and
it's keeping them away frombeing able to really know if
they have feelings for him ornot.
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Probably not Just saying they'reprobably both addicted to the
chase, just saying Okay.
So this is not really a lovetriangle, it's more of a power
imbalance disguised as romanticconfusion.
So the show format reallyreinforces it.
Right, a woman being pickedmeans a man being in power and
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it fuels the anxious avoidanttraps.
Now therapist red flags inLittle Mr Harrison, I don't want
to hurt anyone while doingexactly that Red flag
Withholding emotional claritylike oh, I don't know, I just
keep thinking about both of you,I want to be open and that he
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uses that to avoidaccountability.
He's not actually lackingemotional clarity.
He clearly wants both of them,but he's avoiding the
accountability and owning that.
He's trading them like crapbecause he values himself more
than them.
He also disengages when he'sconfronted or when feelings get
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too real, he backs off right.
So he also reframes hisconfusion about just being
honest.
That is so manipulative, aboutjust being honest.
That is so manipulative.
So why should women in thesedynamics smart, beautiful,
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badass women, why do they stay?
Conditioning to be chosen is aninternalized patriarchal
mindfuck.
Let's just be real, right, ifyou are looking to be chosen,
then you really lack someself-esteem and some
self-confidence.
Your nervous system craves thehigh of unpredictability and
false hope.
These kind of dynamics reallyromanticize the potential of
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somebody instead of the reality.
So it's like these girls are ina relationship with how he
could be as a boyfriend or howhe could be as a partner.
So another dynamic that playsinto this is a fear of looking
too emotional.
Right, they've got theseinstincts, they've got these
feelings, but they're kind ofnumbing them down.
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Lauren just kind of internalizeand cries.
Tony acts like she doesn't careand that she's just angry and
go fuck yourself, but then shetakes them back.
Come on, people.
So what can we learn about thisHarrison Tony Lauren triangle
thing?
They got going on.
If someone's feelings areconfusing from day one, that is
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a red flag.
Ladies, you do not need to winsomebody's love.
Healthy relationships do notrequire proving your worth
period period.
A man who's unsure about you issure enough to walk away.
Unsure about you is sure enoughto walk away.
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Does that make sense?
A man who's unsure about you issure enough to walk away from
you.
And you deserve better thanthat.
So if this triangle hit alittle too close to home, you
are not alone.
This is attachment, trauma, notbad luck and love.
And if you want to break thecycle, hop on over to
KaylaRileycom and see how we cankind of untangle that for you.
Okay, this is fun.
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Let me know if you liked thisepisode.
Let me know if you watch LoveIsland.
And if you haven't watched LoveIsland season 12, go watch it.
It is so entertaining.