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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome toanother fantastic what will be a
fantastic edition of Not About You pod with myself, Jamal
Harrington. Hello.
Also with me per usual my other Co host Marianne Riley.
Hello and also our other Co hostalong with Mary Ann Riley is

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Romeo Nash. That's his signature.
That's his signature voice. Yeah, that should probably be
our, our the, the voice of our podcast.
Yes, yes. I, I, I see.

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I can't do that. God did not bless me with that
much bass. But everybody wants to.
It's so funny to when he says that, when he does that, how
many people try and mimic it like I had when our grandson was
what, 3? He's walking through the house.
Yes, yes, it was a dorm. That's cute.

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Yeah. I would be afraid, like after
coitus, after I did that and andI said that to a girl, it would
probably be creepy, like, oh, you know, like, yes.
Yeah. I don't know.
It won't be. That's what he thinks like.
Maybe if you're good enough, maybe if you wow her then you
could probably get away with it.But if it's like mediocre.

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Yeah, I'll go. Yeah.
And and then did you come? I don't care.
I don't care. Who cares?
That's that's that's you know, if it's.
Hey, I always ask. I always ask because I kind of
feel like. Do they always answer
truthfully? But I I wouldn't.
Care, you know, I would like to think they did, but sometimes

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you kind of know like, you know,you know, it's like, yeah, I'm
I'm getting in there, I'm feeling it.
But you know, sometimes the way that they deliver the answer,
you can just be like, damn, she's lying, she's lying.
And then you. But then with that being said,

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you have yourself to blame. You know, it's like damn.
And you hope and with the only hope that you get a rematch, you
know what I'm saying? So you know, it's like, you know
what? I can do it.
I can get the I can win that belt, you know what I'm saying?
But I have to say Joe Joe Mall. Happy Juneteenth.

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Wow. Thank you.
Wow. You know what you are the second
non white person all day that has wish me that I had AI mean a
non black person. I'm sorry, non black.
It was the first time. I was at the I was at the

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grocery store. I was at the bodega this morning
waiting for my pancakes. And this guy comes up to the
counter and he says, is it a national holiday today?
Like he asked me as if, you know, I should know the answer
to this. And boy, wasn't I ready?
And I said, yes, today is Juneteenth.
And he was like, oh, wow. He didn't know what the

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significance of it was. So he asked.
He's like, hey, you know, I'm I'm from Morocco.
I don't know what the significance of that is.
What does that mean? And I said, well, it's the day
that all the slaves back, you know, back in the day were free.
And he was like, oh, he was like, OK, that that makes sense.
And and he was like, are you going to work today?

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And I said, yes, I am, because Iwas one of I did not take
Juneteenth off. Some of my coworkers did.
I did not because I figured if anything, I'll just leave early
tomorrow. It's third.
It's Thursday, nothing going on.So I'll celebrate it this
weekend. But, you know, it's not a lot of

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people know that that's what that day signifies, you know,
and it's just, you know, in a way, I kind of celebrated by
doing less work today than I usually do at my job.
So I'm just like, I was kind of like phoned it in today.
Being a black man and working onJuneteenth, if you should do a

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little bit less, nobody's reallygoing to say anything because at
least you came to work. A lot of people would be like it
is. So my, my argument, my argument
is this and it was, I feel like it's a preface by saying I am

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not anti-Semitic. I'm not, you know, I said with
all the days that the Jewish people get to take off, why
shouldn't I be able to take thisday off?
And, and again, that's the comedic side of my brain
working, not the, I hate my, youknow, no.

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So it was just like, yeah, we should take the day off.
But if we all took the day off at my job, I'm not even joking,
there would probably be like 3-4people working there and we
might as well just close, close for the day.
Well. You know Trump agrees with you
because he proclaimed that. Well basically he ignored today

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and until until he took to his social media to bemoan that the
country has too many non workingholidays and demanding a change.
They didn't do anything special at the White House today, unlike

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he wrote proclamations commemorating Father's Day, Flag
Day and National Flag Week as well as the 200.
Well, none are federal holidays on the 17th, right?
And so he reported that too manynon working holidays in America,
wrote Trump. It is costing our country

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billions of dollars to keep all these businesses closed.
These workers don't want it either.
The workers don't want it either.
Paid holidays. Soon we'll end up having a
holiday for every once working day of the year.
It must change if we're going tomake America great again.
So yeah. So it makes sense that he

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responds like that because I've been saying this for the past
eight years. He's a fucking racist.
Oh yeah. OK.
Oh. Well, to to, to to your point, I
just read that they he took MLK bust out of the Oval Office.

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It's been in there for I don't know how many presidencies since
probably yeah, that's it seems like 70s, seventies, 70s.
It's been in defense of the 70s and he had it removed from the
Oval Office. No, not some.
OK, I did not know that. But again, are we surprised

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Again, he removed the Indian. He removed Indian flags in
Arizona. Yeah, remove them.
So it's like, no shit. But you know who's not mad at
that? White people because life
doesn't affect them. It's not hurting them.
They're like, as long as as longas you keep the hate on that
side of the Yeah. Before I before I continue, when

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I say white people, I don't meanall white people, just a good
portion. Of you you know the the ignorant
I mean and and The thing is is no, I think it's more than just
the ignorant it's people becausea lot of his policies right now

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don't impact them and that's part of the problem I wanted to
think of that yeah, I'm. Sorry.
Speaking of that, by the end of next month, he is also cutting
funding for the LGBTQ suicide hotline.
Oh. My.
God, but that helps teenagers. We're confused.

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I'm sure they they're cutting that because, you know, he's
also attacking gender rights. He's also attacking
homosexuality now and. The VA, the veterans, he's
actually the newest 1. He just did was he removed the
verbiage for not being able to discriminate.

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He so they removed the anti discrimination for LGBQT and
unmarried veterans their maritalstaff.
Yeah. So when you do all of these
things and again, my, my, my issue was because I read about,

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I, I, I was reading about this last night while I was kind of
working on the outline. I was like, do I, you know, And
I was like, this is something that should be discussed because
and we, we, we have talked aboutour feelings with the
homosexuality or anybody with alternative sexual lifestyles.
And I think, I think anybody whohas listened to this show know

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that we don't care. I mean, let me.
Let me rephrase that. Let me rephrase that.
We care about these sub, what people would probably call like
sub groups or what have you, but.
I don't care. We care about them losing their
rights. That's what we care about.

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We don't care about how they choose to live their lives.
It literally had zero impact on me.
It had zero impact on my husband.
It had zero impact on anybody that I know in my family, right.
It has zero impact. Somebody else being gay or being
transgender or anything else haszero impact on us.
Why do I care if if that's if that's their lifestyle and I'm

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not going to say that's our thatthey choose to live because live
because. We don't.
Understand. Right, There's there's.
We don't understand. It enough.
We can't. It's always a choice.
It's not a choice like that would be like Jamal, somebody
telling you or me or Romeo that we choose to be funny.

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We don't choose to be funny. That's who we are.
It's a part of our it's an integral part of our, our
existence. We would never stop being funny.
There's not, it's not possible. That's who we are.
We we choose how we want to express how funny we are.
And yeah, we choose that. You know.

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So yeah, but but as you were just saying, it has no effect on
us. But in a way, when I see stuff
like this, I have, I can't help but feel bad for the kids.
I can't help but but feel bad for people who are, who are
being oppressed. You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah, I, I can't help but feel bad.
So in a way, emotionally, I would say that it does have an
effect on me because it's, we'rewatching this with our very own
eyes, the things that we kept saying for months, you know, and
I was just having a comment. I, I had a conversation with

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somebody today. Well, not even today, a couple
of days ago. And I was explaining, hey,
here's what's going on. And this person, and she was
from Illinois, an old white lady.
And first of all, shame on me for even trying to get old white

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conservatives to even engage a conversation with them because
it's almost like they I asked a couple of questions and instead
what I got was finger pointing, blaming other people and name
calling. And I'm just like, well, I
thought the Republican Party, aswe kept hearing, was a party of

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peace. We were told that President
Trump is going to, we're not going to go into any wars.
Now we're about to engage in a war with Iran.
Muslims in Michigan was saying we support Trump because he is
not going to lead us into war. Well, that aged badly because
look where we are now, all the things that he has.

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And again, I've watched the campaigns, I've watched.
I sat down and I remember watching the debates.
And again, if I'm wrong, somebody send me your hate mail
because I'm about to say something about to blow your
mind. Remember when Donald Trump said
Kamala hates Israel, Kamala hates Jews?

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He said that. Then he said, if I become
president, I will stop the war between Russia and and Ukraine.
With one phone call, as a matterof fact, he doubled.
Down. And said I will end the war
before I get into office. Since then, he's had Zelensky in

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his in the Oval Office, and theyridiculed him out the door.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
So. Disgusting.
It was disgusting. It was absolutely.
What does that? Yeah, I'm embarrassing and.
And then you got. Fucking the the the the.
First Lady JD Vance saying have you even thanked us?

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I know. So it's it's like.
Wait a minute. First of all, we weren't even.
You guys were supposed to end this months ago.
Beginning of this year, you weresupposed to end it.
And again, all these people who voted for him, and I tell
everybody, that's a maggot. You voted out of fear.

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Now hit now. Now picture this.
Yeah. Billionaires are about to send
your sons and daughters out to slaughter.
Yep, Yep. Yeah, because let's not forget.
Remember when America? Remember when America they want.
More fucking money. Remember when America gave Iran

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all that money? All that money and they got
missiles and bombs and all that?Yeah, Yeah.
What America does. And again, people don't want to
admit this. We fund our enemies.
Yep, we fund our enemies. But you know why?
You know why? How else are we going to have a

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war? How else are we going to have a
war? How else are we going to have
profiteers? Because the people who are in
charge are profiting from this. Do you think that these
billionaires don't profit from all this?
Do you think they didn't profit when they crashed the market and
then miraculously pulled it backand said they weren't going to

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have the tariffs? And all these fat cuts in
Washington knew that was coming,and they invested and made
millions overnight. Yeah, billionaires are looking
out for each other. They're not looking out for us.
Anybody. What makes anybody fucking think
that? A reality TV star and, and I'm
not going to call him a fucking star.

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Reality TV personality gives 2 points box about the common
person. He's a fucking.
Russian he's you know, you know he's he's he has proven to be a
Russian asset. Fuck he's we just found out his
grandfather immigrated from Germany.
So. He.

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He hates all these immigrants. Guess what, Motherfucker?
You're an immigrant. Did I say that right?
Did I say motherfucker? Right?
Not quite, but you'll get near SO still.
Got a little bit of of of hillbilly.
That was a hard ER. You know, and, and you watch
these things like I watched this, I watched what was it the

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Mexican or the Latino speaker for the Latino community
community. And now he and he was the one
voting for, for the Latino should vote.
And now they got him a detention.
And Isaac, yeah, I snatched him and he had the Latino community

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voting for Trump and they snatched him.
And he's going to get 40. It's like, and he's illegally.
Yeah. And it's like you people need to
wake up, open your eyes. If you're here illegally and
you're work in agriculture or you work for rich people
cleaning their toilets, you're safe.

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Who else is going to pick those berries?
Who else is going to pick out my?
Question is this is my question.At what point did immigrants of
America become the enemy? When so?
No, go ahead, finish your question question.

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I'm going to answer it. I'm going to answer it as an
immigrant myself, so. Go ahead, That's fine.
That's fine. And that's my question.
It's like at one point the immigrants become the enemy when
for for generations and generations, we we boasted,
bring us your, bring us, you know, yeah, bring us your tired,

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bring us your poor. Come to America and, and, and
make a better life for yourselves, you know, and, and
that's we, that's that's why youare the United States.
That's where we were. And at what point did being an
immigrant on this on American soil make you the enemy?
At what point did that happen? OK, so I myself am an immigrant

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from Trinidad and Tobago. Hi, my mom, my dad, you know,
that's where we're from. Here's a little secret that not
a lot of people know or not, nota lot of people pay attention to
every president, believe it or not.
For the most part. I know Clinton did it.

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I'm not sure if Reagan did it, but I know Clinton did it.
And I know Bush did it when he was governor of Texas.
W Bush amnesty. Basically what it is is if you
are already here, you could havegotten your green card.

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You could have been a permanent resident.
No red tape. No, they, they, they some.
I know. Yeah, Clinton did it and I think
I think Reagan did it as well. My mom missed out on that.
But nonetheless, if you were already here because there was
billions of people there, let metell you something.

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Immigration is nothing new. Illegal immigrants ain't nothing
new. When I was growing up, man, you
know how many illegal aliens came off the boat, flew here and
and and stayed past their visa and just ended up staying there
were like what, 20 million? I think that Once Upon a time,
there's like 20 million illegal aliens back in the early like

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80s or so and 90s, I went to school, no Social Security in
the card, food stamps. I mean, let me tell you
something like I, I went throughthat grueling process of being
an undocumented citizen of the United States.
I went, I went through high school, you know, through all of

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that. I had to it's, it's hard.
Let me tell you something being an illegal.
Now again, we did it right. The only difference is I came on
my mother's passport. I didn't come here on my own.
So I had to and, and it was, youknow, I was one of the outliers
because my mom came here, brought me when I was four

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months old. So I had to go to the to to the
Hall of Records and find my mom's old passport that had my
name on it in order to even for me to get my foot in the door
into a permanent residency of being just a green card holder
alone. So, so, yeah, as far as most,

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most of the immigrants that camefrom the Caribbean that I know
was watch was babysitting, was being nannies and they were paid
under the table, you know what I'm saying?
Or they were able to have, they were able to live freely
without, you know, they didn't, they didn't have paperwork.
They were undocumented workers. So it's just like as long as

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they were here and they were able to come and go as they
please and make a little money, they, you know, the only thing
they did was break the law as far as you don't have a green
card, you can or Social Securitynumber, which means you're not
paying taxes, you're not doing your part, as I said at that.
I get that. But there was amnesty programs

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that allow people like that to file for citizenship so they
could be able to work. Because do you know how much it
costs to send a bunch of people,undocumented people back to
Jamaica, back to Barbados, back to the Bahamas?
Well, not the Bahamas, but back to like the islands, back to
Mexico, back to South Central America.

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It costs money to do all that. So what the, So what the
president's passed, you know, inthe past has done is they said,
hey, since you're already here, we're just going to give you the
green card. Now what does that mean?
Now? That means you get to pay taxes
now, that means that shitty nanny job that you're getting

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paid $5.00 an hour. If you were a doctor in
Trinidad, you could probably be a resident in a hospital here.
Nowadays in New York especially,man, if I'm in a hospital and a
nurse walks in, chances are she's from out of the she's from
the Caribbean. You know what I'm saying?
Because I mean so. They don't.

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They don't. Ship people back.
They keep them here now. The difference now, but between
now and back in the 90s, back inthe 80s even, is the difference
is all our president now has putthe fear in people who don't

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know any better. You, I mean you, they don't know
any. They can't, they don't, they
can't tell between a Mexican anda Puerto Rican, you know, all
they know is you probably don't have your papers.
They just look at both of them. You probably don't have your
papers. The thing is, it's.
The. They're like, OK, now we got
Mexicans bringing in fentanyl and all that.
First of all, we got drugs here like methamphetamines that are

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made in your trailer park down the down in Parkland and fucking
and fucking 5 and all that. Like you got, you got, you got
gangs, homemade gangs here. You got hate groups here that
are way that are, that are acting way worse than the people

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you think are bringing in fentanyl and, and, and what
happened, the cartels and all that.
OK, That's not even taking care of the root of the problem
because let me here's little secret drugs are coming in.
Whether you ship these illegal Mexicans back home or not,
you're not going to stop the youare not going to stop the, the,
the, the churning Greek people, people they want to get high.

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They're going to find a way to get high.
OK. You're never going to stop the
urge for people wanting to do drugs.
Let me tell you something. If those Mexican cartels want
their drugs here, they'll get itin here one way or another.
So the only thing now is Trump has put the fear in people that
he's saying, oh, Mexicans and there's they're bringing in
these illegal aliens are, are committing crimes here.

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OK. The now the question is he
they're not wrong. But if you really think about
it, what's the percentage of crimes or as he like to call it
illegal crime, He he gave it a sub stat for it.
What's the percentage of the crime?
I just got robbed 2 weeks ago from who I'm pretty sure is a

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blue blooded black American. I'm pretty sure it wasn't no
Venezuelan hovering over me, It wasn't no Puerto Rican hovering
over me. It was a fucking black man.
Who? Probably has his papers.
Who's just a shitty citizen? OK, I'm not worried about the
fucking Dominican who's undocumented robbing me.

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No, because that person is worried about getting a job and
working under the table. He's delivering food.
You know what I'm saying? Under the table, These people
come here to to work. Now what?
As I'm speaking, any of our conservative listeners are
probably saying, well, Jamal, they should do it the right way.

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And again, yeah, they should. But you know what?
Some of them don't know how to do it that way.
Some of them don't have the money to get a lawyer to do it
the right way and not on. And on top of that, I know
lawyers when it comes to immigration, some of them are
shy, see as fuck, you know what I'm saying?
Some of them are charging a lot of money, more money than some

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of these families even have. And let's take a look at when
you say doing it the right way, you know, it's very interesting
to me because I work in a, in an, in an industry that has a
majority of Latino workers. And I can honestly tell you that

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the conversations that they haveout there is, if they're here
legally, they lored that over the people who are not here
legally. They, they use that as a, you
know, like there's that sense ofpride, like I I'm legal, you're
not. And so that and, and Trump, his
administration knows that. And they played into that.

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I was on one of our cruises and I was talking to two Trumpsters
and one of them was he's like, I'm a first generation American.
He goes and I came here, you know, my family did it legally.
That's and and I'm like, you know, it's but the reality is
always going to come down to this.
Jamal, it is very easy to distinguish between pigmented

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and non pigmented and those who look different are are
dehumanized. And that.
Is and Trump, if you look at Trump, we were we just watched
what did what was the name of that movie?
Selma to Selma. Selma and it it was yeah, it was

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you knew what I was talking about.
It was about that's. A That's a hard walk.
Junior when they did a walk fromSelma to Minnesota.
I bet it was not. Not no.
It was in Alabama. Montgomery Thank you, Selma to
Montgomery. And it was we were watching this

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and we when we were that was in 1965.
Martin Luther King junior was murdered in 1968, the year Romeo
was born. When you stop and think about
how close that was, that wasn't even 100 years ago.
It wasn't even close to 100 years ago.

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Where there was still major, there was still major
segregation. And even though it was illegal,
people, they were still trying to fight to.
It was all about the vote. It was about allowing the
citizens in Alabama to be able to register to vote black

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citizens. And that's what and they were so
afraid of that because they wereand what, you know, some of the
fears were because they were trashed garbage humans that were
treating blacks less than or Godforbid, race traders like
myself. I'm a race trader.
I guess that, you know, they they treated them so

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horrifically and yet to them it was completely and totally OK.
Something think about it was a lot of our listeners that was
your grandparents age when they were alive.
Yeah, it's, and, you know, it's,it's funny because I still have,
you know, I still have some of these talks with friends of mine
that I grew up with in high school.

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A lot of them, you know, they'renot, I mean, they're just like,
hey, look, I am not OK with, youknow, segregation.
I'm not OK with racism. I mean, it's, it's like, you
know, I, I, I grew up not hatingcertain people and not hating
minorities and all that. It's just, you know, I, I, I'm

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all about let live and let live.It still upsets me to this day
that we still live in a time where we still have, as a black
man, when I go to the South, I and I do comedy.
I'm not even joking when I say this.
My mom would call me and just belike, Hey, be careful down
there. You know, she would say things

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like she would say things like like she would ask me like, what
kind of jokes do you plan on doing?
And I'm like, well, you mean other what, what what kind of
jokes other than the funny kind can I not do?
But she was more worried about my safety because my mom knows
my material. She will call me up like the day
before I get on the on on a planet.

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And she would just be like, Hey,remember, they have guns down
there. And I'm like, OK, all they have
to do is not bring it to the show, you know, like that's, you
know, But with that being said. But but again, like, her
concerns are legitimate, you know what I'm saying?
It's very legitimate because sheknows what's going on in the

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world around her. And I, and I do too, you know,
when, if I'm in the South, especially in a place that I'm
unfamiliar with, I don't go somewhere by myself where I
don't feel safe. You know, I, I keep enough
people around me where I'm just like, OK, if something goes
down, at least there's a fighting chance, you know, we'll
have a fighting chance. But, and, and sometimes I don't

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like to think that way because believe it or not, there's some
people in the South that takes Southern hospitality, no matter
what your race is, they take it very seriously, you know,
especially, you know, and I giveprops to North Carolina.
I go to North Carolina and, and whenever I go there, it's, it's

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all love. It's all you know, Hey, how'd
you like the food? How'd you like this?
Hey, when you go back up to New York, tell us, tell them about
us down here. You know, it, it, it's, it's
very welcoming some places in the South.
And, and again, I know in the past I've, I've talked shit
about the South, like, you know,but there are some places down
there, not a lot, but there's some places down there where

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they take, they do take the Southern hospitality to heart.
And, and I mean like it like if you, the, the southern
hospitality you see in movies, it's like they're very serious
about that. So when, if you ever go down to
like, you know, Raleigh Durham, I like, I like that town.
It's a very nice town, Raleigh Durham, very urban ish college

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town and whatnot. But I went to, I remember going
to a restaurant one time and, and, you know, Yankee hat and
everything. Oh, you're from New York.
Yeah. Oh, OK.
What brings you down here? Like these people, they want to
know who's in their town. They want people to come back.
They, they're very excited aboutjust meeting new people and
people, you know. Wow, you're a comedian and you

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came down to Raleigh Durham to do a comedy show.
That's that's amazing to them. That's, that's amazing.
And it makes me feel good. Now to the flip side to that,
there's some places where it's like, wow, I'm the only black
guy here and it almost looks like someone's about to auction
the shit out of me. You know what I'm saying?
Like it's, you know, and sometimes, and it does, I feel

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like I'm like some billionaire'smonkey and he's like, make them
laugh and word. And so, you know, sometimes
there is that. But you know, I, I don't want
people to get the idea that I think I'm anti white people.
No, I'm not anti white people atall.
I grew up around white people most of my life.

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I am anti racism. I am anti white people who
thinks that racism is OK and they try to justify it with me.
I'm like, no, you can't. We can't have this conversation
because you're never going to beright.
There's no way you're going to tell me as a white person who is
like my daddy told me that no, I, your daddy was a fucking

(34:17):
idiot and he taught you hate. My dad never taught me hate.
Now, he might say things like, well, those type of people never
come to our store and, you know,share their money with us or
anything like that. Yeah, there's a lot of that
going on. It's an observation.
But my dad is not racist, you know, 'cause.
There are, there's. An absolute yeah.

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He he, he makes racial observations that are not been
up in 100% spot off. Now, if he's wrong or I feel
like he's wrong, I will say, well, you know, hey, dad, when I
was living in Texas, this didn'thappen, but this happened.
You know what I'm saying? Like I would show them that, you

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know? But but again, yeah, cultural.
No. There's a huge economic culture
that and that's that's what. Different cultures.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
But but, but, but my thing is, it really bugs me that, you
know, we've been here as humans for how many years and we still
can't get the whole, Hey, he's black, I'm white.

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But but one thing that we're definitely have in common is
that we're human, right? There's.
There's no such. Thing, you know, like this is
what kills me when somebody saysthat I'm a race trader, I, I
have to go, you know, I don't understand what you're saying
because I've only been with one race my entire life and that's
the human race. I've never stepped out of the

(35:43):
human race, ever. Yeah, you.
You didn't morph into a puppy and became a dog, you know what
I'm saying? Right.
I didn't, I didn't, you know, I haven't ever looked at a donkey
and said, yeah, you know what I mean?
You know, I've never, I've never, ever crossed out of my
own race. Yeah, it's but at, but at the
same time, though, in the South,believe it or not, you know as

(36:06):
much racism as there is in the South.
And again, it's there whenever Isee an interracial couple, I
have so many questions to ask them, You know, I mean, it's
like, how did you meet? What made you like, what's the,
what's the, the fascination? Like, what do other people

(36:27):
think? What do your friends think?
Like whenever I'm in Mobile, whenever I'm in North Carolina,
whenever I'm anywhere South of Jersey and I see interracial
dating, I'm like, I'm, I'm like,like, even, like tonight, before
we did this podcast, I, I went out on a first date with a white

(36:49):
girl and I told her about the podcast.
I told her about what we talked about and this, that, whatever.
I even told her about you and Romeo, you know, 'cause she was
like, well, how did this podcaststart and where can I listen to
this? Whatever.
And I was like, well, you know, my podcast meant we used to be
roommates, comedians. And she she is married to a

(37:11):
black man who was in the Navy and, you know, and they lived in
Washington state. And I said Washington state, a
very, very, very blue state, youknow, a very blue state.
But at the same time and and she's from I was.
Going to say Western Washington is very, very blue.

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Eastern Washington is very, veryred.
It's period red. Oh.
Yeah, it's period red and we're neon red or blue, neon blue.
The difference is is that there's more voters in Western
Washington than Eastern Washington, so they go.
Pissed off because yeah, yeah, it never.
Hands. Up for them.
Yeah, I was never, I was never ahuge fan of Eastern Washington

(37:54):
anyway. But but nonetheless, you know,
she's from Pennsylvania, which is a under blue state.
And so, you know, we were talking about and then, you
know, we kind of had like a little small discussion about
that. And I find it weird because I'm
just like, hold on a second, I'mtalking about race to a white
girl. You know, I don't usually talk
about race with white people at all because again, like we don't

(38:16):
have anything in common. You know what I'm saying?
I don't. Agree.
I, I don't agree because I thinkthat there's, but we'll, that
we'll, we'll talk on that one after you.
Here's the thing we when people tell me.
Oh, you make it about race, Jamal.
I say when you're a black man inAmerica, it's always about race.

(38:37):
If you're a black woman in America, I'm sorry.
Take it however the fuck you guys want to take it.
It's always about race when it'snon white.
You want to know how I know this?
Go to your insert any kind of political bullshit about Trump
or whatever and see what white people are saying.
Right. OK.
It is about race because they make it about race.

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We make it about race. But we're just like we know it.
It's in the back of our mind. OK.
Hey, my name is Hayden Jamal Harrington.
You think I walked into a job interview with Jamal Harrington
on my fucking resume? No.
When you're talking to me on thephone, you hear the sound of my
voice. People don't think that I'm
Romeo When when they're talking to me over the phone.

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When they meet me. No, when they meet me face to
face. And, and in a way, sometimes I'm
on the phone and I'm just like, fucking giants loss and I'm
going through an issue. How can I help you?
You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes that blackness
kind of does come out, but it confuses my they're like, OK, I
don't even know where to go fromhere.

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You know they don't know where to go.
Because they don't know. What color they're talking to
until they meet me, until I go downstairs and they meet me and
they're just like, oh, did you know?
Like, I see the surprise, you know, but you know, I and I and
I tell my coworkers and every job that I've ever had when they
when it came to why don't you use Jamal?

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Well, because Jamal does not getthe job.
He barely gets the fucking interview.
But Hayden Harrington, he gets his foot in the door and he gets
hired. You know what I'm saying?
And again, it's not that it's it's you know, that's how the
game is played. That is how the game is as a
black man. And again.

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I always tell my fellow, hey, you know what?
We could, you know, we could in in this world that we live in,
sure, we can rise up. And some of them disagree with
me when I say that because they're like, Nope, because the
ones who are gatekeeping are going to make sure we know our
place. And that's that mental slavery.

(40:45):
OK, yes, that's slavery. Slavery still exists, but it's
not, I mean, it, it's still, youknow, people getting underpaid
and, and, and working as twice as hard and getting that is a
type of slavery. That's economic slavery.
And then there's the, the, the type of slavery where there,
there's people who are afraid toachieve because they're afraid

(41:06):
that the white man is keeping him down.
I don't like to think that way because I'm an intelligent black
man, OK, I paid for my college. I paid my way through most of my
school, But at the same time, I'm not going to let people put
their put their knee behind my neck.
No OK. I've always found a way to

(41:28):
survive in the world that peoplethink they are putting around
me. OK.
I am in control of my destiny. Nobody else.
I'm not going to let like if I want.
To. Excel at my job.
All I have to do is prove to them that I'm worthy.
And so and, and and and I speak to this job specifically because

(41:48):
that's what I've done. If they didn't want me there
because of, of my color, they could have, they could have
found the reason and fired me. God knows with my personality,
they should have fired me 14 times already.
But. Speaking of that, we going to
talk to the talk to you about that in a second, but there's
some that you did there a momentago and I totally relate to it.

(42:13):
We actually know a comic who actually uses that one of his
kids where he said that he nameshis children little white names
like Billy Michael Anthony or something like that, right?
Or Becky White White. And he said he does this to give

(42:34):
his children a leg up in the jobcommunity when they have to
write their name down on an application.
Yeah. He goes because you know what?
But. Yeah, they're going to get
looked at, but if they're just going over an application with
it and they're just going by thenames, their names will get
thrown into the pie. Yeah.

(42:57):
No, I mean today. On the train I was working on
like a an outline for a screenplay and I was look I
googled. Up.
Black names because I didn't want to use a, you know, regular
black girl and I wanted to use something that had like a little

(43:18):
bit of African in it or a littlebit of of ethnicity to that part
of the world in it. Because I wanted to show that
even though this, because the name is a lot, you know, I
wanted to show that there's somesubstance according to this
person's character. So I, I was looking up names and

(43:39):
I found one that I liked and I was like, OK, we're going to,
you know, we're going to throw that in there.
This is the last thing we're going to use.
And that's going to be the one name where it's going to stand
out more than these other names here.
But The thing is, what sucks about that is you lose your
identity when you have to play that game.
You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what?

(43:59):
I'm never going to meet a white guy named Jamal.
I don't think I've to this day, I haven't.
I'm never going to meet. And yeah, there's a good chance
that I will. There's a better chance of me
being struck by lightning than it is to meet a white dude named
Jamal, even if he's half. Well, I did meet a guy named
Jamal. He was half black and half

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white, but nonetheless, he was lightly toasted.
He wasn't fully white, you know what I'm saying?
But see, now I realized that this is a double edged sword
because my ex-girlfriend, her daughter had and she was a white
girl and her daughter was white and she had a white mother,

(44:42):
white father, but her name was only black in my eyes.
Oh, what's her name? Shaquana.
Her name was Shaquana. OK.
That is yeah, yeah, exactly. And it was.
Unbear. And I'm like, OK her.

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I'm like, you named your daughter Shaquana.
And my daughter is black. My daughter's name is Haley.
And so we go walking through theball and and they would say, and
I would say Shaquana, Haley, let's go.
And everybody immediately thought that my daughter Haley

(45:24):
was Shaquana because she was black.
You know what? I'm saying naturally, yeah.
Like I said, you don't meet any black girls, any white girls
named Shaquana. Yeah, and, and, and, and that
right there, I don't, I mean, I can't even explain that, but
that's one of the, I mean, there's always going to be an
outlier in that, in that group. A lot of me, you know what I

(45:49):
mean? Yeah, there, there's, yeah,
there's always because I can't even think of, you know,
something, you know, like that. Yeah, that is something that I'd
be like, oh, if if I was, if youwere to introduce me to her and
she said her name was Shaquanda.Again, there's a there's
questions. Really.
Is any of your parents black? That would be like my first.

(46:10):
Question I ask I. Ask that question every day and.
I'd be like, now imagine if thatif that was not the case and she
lived in Bellevue, WA. It's like, wow, there's again
why that that doesn't make sense.
Now if she lived in Renton, maybe I can I can be like, Oh
yeah, that tracks. You know, you live in Renton or

(46:32):
Skyway Virgin. That would make.
Sense and she was I mean she wassuper white her he was super
white. The mother was super white and
the daughter was super white yes, they were just white white.
I don't so and I OK, that was the water.
What was the explanation they gave you for that name?
Because now I'm even curious. Like what's the?

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Something she said. She wanted something different.
She, she, she. Heard a black girl, she heard a
black girl's name, Shaquanda. Shaquanda.
And she thought it was cute. She thought it was cute.
So she named her daughter Shaquanda.
And I was just like. OK, ask an answer.

(47:16):
Yeah, exactly. I that's nothing.
Wow. OK, I I was still just.
I could not believe it. Bro bro.
Blonde, blonde, blue eyed. Shaquanda, you know, as a as a
hold on one second, as a black man, even I would not name my

(47:37):
daughter Shaquanda. Sorry.
That's just like I would. I just wasn't.
Yeah, I'm sorry. That's that's a name that is off
the, you know, name in my daughter's wish list.
That's next to Shenenegaardo. Yeah, that's two right there.
I think you know like well as a mom.
So my daughter, God rest her, I named her Georgina.

(48:02):
But the reason why was because Iloved I, I'd read a book where
the main character, her name wasGeorge Gina, but she went by
George or Georgie. And I thought that was so cool
because I could call my daughterGeorge or Georgie.
And I was like, just think aboutit.
Like people of her friends wouldbe like, oh, cool, George is
coming. And then everybody's shocked

(48:23):
when this girl walks in George and they're like, what?
You're George or Georgie. So my sister was like, why don't
you just name her Georgia? And I'm like, are you kidding?
My daughter go to a business meeting in a suit and say my
name is George. No, she needs to be able to say
my name is Georgina. You know, to be profound, I
mean. You you want to add a little

(48:44):
femininity to the name, You know, I mean like I've been, you
know, looking at I mean like, I don't know, like my if I have a
daughter, my my grandmother named my grandmother.
Her name is Rosita. So I always thought either have
her name begin with AJ, which I don't like a lot of those J

(49:08):
female names. So I'm like, I'll just name her
either like Rosie, Rosanna, something, you know, of like the
Rose, you know, something like that.
And. You know at the start with AJ,
you said or you don't like the with AJ.
No, no, I, I, I I've always thought like, oh, if I had a

(49:28):
daughter and I want to name her like, you know, a lot have her
AJ name, like my name, you know,my middle name.
Juanita. Juanita.
Starts with AJ. Yeah, but yeah.
But do I do I, do I look like IAA Juanita type person?
I mean, again, that's a lovely name, but I've always thought

(49:49):
like, like the name that I wouldname my daughter.
And I again, I hope to God, if Iever get a child, I hope it's a
girl 1st. I'm going to get all that shit
out the way I wanted to be a girl 1st.
And you know, because I don't know, because by the time she's

(50:10):
five years old, I could stop raising her.
She'll she's already got the world figured out, you know what
I'm saying? She could figure out the rest.
Part of the world, you know so. By the by the time she's 6, she
could do my taxes. I mean, she's going to be
brilliant. She's going to be brilliant.
So that's I, I really hope I geta girl 1st and I thought to

(50:30):
myself like OK if I wanted to name her outside of the Rosie
spectrum, what would I name her?And I always liked the name
Jules. You know.
I, you know, like short for Julie.
Yeah, I'm not. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of
Julie, but I would call her Jules and I would probably not.

(50:54):
I'm sorry. That's.
Really cool. That's really cool.
How much is done? JU or JESJU but also I I do like
the JEWELS but I would probably show it Jules.
See, I think that's beautiful. I also think Rose is beautiful.
That's a name that you just. Yeah.

(51:17):
You don't you as often as you should, but Rose, I mean, is
just such a beautiful name. Well, my grandmother is a very
beautiful woman and her name is Rosita.
And I've, I've always been, I, I, I, I figured I would be
honoring her name, you know? Yeah, I.
Kind of feel like Rosita for a baby is like, I don't know, I'm

(51:40):
like, wow, that kind of feels like she should just be born
like in her 40s already and thenjust name her.
But I, I. Always there, Rosie, you know.
Rosie. But you know, you always kind of
you have a tendency to like whatis longer names.
A lot of times we have a tendency to shorten them, except
for like with my name Marianna. I don't everybody wants to try

(52:02):
and call me Mary and I stop. I put the first like my name is
Marianna. My grandmother is Mary.
I marry 2 very different names. Yeah, I.
If somebody, usually when peopleintroduce me to their full
names, I always go by the I never shorten it because if that

(52:23):
was the case, you would say Marianne.
Hey, my name is Marianne. Some people call me Mary or my
friends call me Mary. And then maybe down the line, if
we had a like, if our friendshipwas tight enough where I could
call you Mary and you'd be fine with it, then great.
But you know, even at work I called everybody by their full
name. We have a guy, we have a guy at

(52:45):
our job, his name is Roberto. Sometimes we call him Bobby,
sometimes we call him, you know,Robert.
We have a few nicknames for him and he's cool with it.
But it's like for the most part,you know what?
One of my Co workers found out my name was Jamal because I go
by Hayden, of course. But they saw something online.
It was like, hey, is your name Jamal?

(53:06):
And I'm like, well, that dependson who's asking, you know, like
what do you, what's your follow up question?
They're just like, Nah, man, I saw, I saw, I saw a flyer that
one of the guys had for a show and it said, Jamal, it had your
face on it. I'm like, yeah, that's my middle
name. And they're like, oh, why don't
you go by Jamal then? And then of course, it goes back

(53:27):
to the Hayden sounds more professional than Jamal.
You know so. Yeah.
And, and, you know, and that literally is a big part.
Like people say what's in a nameand a lot, a lot of our identity
is absolutely. And I, you know, it's
interesting. I was talking to a lady who is
very prankful, who were disgusted with her first child.

(53:49):
And she would tell me the baby'sname.
And she said, you know, it took her a while to pick the name.
And she goes and she goes. It just seemed right.
And I said, you know, it's interesting because I've had
three pregnancies, three children, and I've named all
three of them and every single name, as soon as the name, I

(54:13):
said the name out loud, it was like the baby stamped over like,
yes, that's me. Hello.
And except for Kyle, Kyle was supposed to have a different.
Name. I don't remember what.
It was really. Yeah.
See, I bet you, I bet you anything, if we we get into it,

(54:33):
we'll probably find out that ourkids were supposed to have the
same freaking name. So, so crazy.
And you know, but it's I'm telling you that as as a mother,
when you are are carrying your child, you could have a lot of
predetermined names already. But when you're pregnant, it's
like that child may be like in conception, but they like

(54:58):
they're their souls or energy orsomething will communicate with
you. And when you hit the right name,
you literally feel like it resonates in your belly like oh
God. Oh, OK, that's your name.
There's, there's one, this was amovie I watched or if it was a

(55:22):
book I read. But there's a race of people and
they don't name the baby. They they don't, do they?
Don't do what? They don't name the child for
the first week. They let the child take on
characteristics of his, of his personality.

(55:42):
They watch him for a week beforethey give him his name.
Oh, interesting. Yeah.
It it it was very interesting. And I want to say it was a, it
was, I think it was a native, I think it was a native tribe that
I, I ran across. And it was, it was a native

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thing. It actually wasn't.
And they do, and they didn't, they didn't name it.
They won't name the child for the first week.
They have the baby. And they would watch the child
for that first week and they would watch the characteristics

(56:24):
that he's taken on. And then they after the first
week, then it, it would give it a name, you know, my prizes on
board or you know, Braveheart, you know.
I. Because, you know, I joking.
I think that that's a really, I mean, it's an interesting
concept, but I also think like, so like I know with my nephew,

(56:51):
he just now, I mean, he's he just turned 2 and he's just now
really taking on his personalitybecause up until just recently,
he was the cryingest kid I've ever been around.
I was like, my God, this kid is always screaming and crying now.
Like since he turned 2, it's almost like a, a switch has been
flipped and I see the kid walking around smiling.

(57:11):
He interacts with us. I mean, he even interacts
directly with me. Like, you know, I watched him.
I watched him when his mom was had an appointment and he
grabbed my hand and he was wandering me around and like,
he, he literally grabbed my finger and wandered me through
the house and jumped me out on the, you know, and he doesn't

(57:33):
cry and he was laughing and smiling with me and, you know,
and so I was like, damn, there'sa kid I want to get to know
because I have to tell that. And I was like, oh.
God, he tells you. Oh God, I've watched him cry so
much earlier in his years and. Literally.
And you knew you were going to take on our responsibility of

(57:58):
watching this child while his mother was going to be away for
a few hours because I took her to the doctor.
And I took her to the doctor. But.
Before that, he started smiling.Again.
But she was watching them, and he never cried.
Not once. Not at all.
But that was shocked because he was 5 before.
Yeah, it was his first time awayfrom his parents, the very first

(58:21):
time it was at his house, but itwas the first time away from his
parents that he didn't even know.
They were gone. And I mean, I'm like, damn, my
kids would have flipped out, youknow, and my kids weren't
prayers, but you know, they would have flipped out as soon
as mom walked out the door like they, you know, come to the

(58:46):
baby, you know, take up to the daycare.
Feel like my being the parent when my niece was that age,
yeah, she would be very she would cry when her mom when she
was away from her mom. And you know, it got to a point
for me where. You know.

(59:07):
I never, you know, I don't, I don't hit my knees, but I try to
under, I try to understand her more.
So one day I asked her, why are you crying?
And in like a very slobbery, teary, ugly cry sort of way.
I miss. My mommy.
And I'm like, you know what? If there was ever a reason to

(59:29):
cry, I, I, I gave her that. I'm like, you know what?
I'm sure you do come here, you know, and I'm like, I'm sure you
miss your mommy, but she has to go to work and don't worry,
she'll come back. And so it, you know, and it's
weird because it's like, you know, when I hate, when I hate
it when babies cry, it breaks myheart.
But I try to be like, well, you're a baby, you're going to

(59:50):
cry. You're still figuring out the
world. But when you're at an age where
you could communicate your feelings, because in her at her
age, I mean, she was what, maybe6 in her, in her eloquent way,
she was able. I miss my mommy.
And I'm like, well, you're with your uncle, you're with your

(01:00:10):
dad. I mean your grandpa.
What are you afraid of? Because if it's because you're
worried that we're going to do something we just that you don't
like, we're just not going to doit.
Whatever it is. No, she could probably do it
now, but no. But at the same time, when she's
just like, I miss my mommy and I'm like, well, it's OK, you're

(01:00:33):
allowed to miss your mommy. You know what I'm saying?
You're allowed to fly over your mom.
It's OK, you know what I'm saying?
But at the same time, your mom didn't leave you with strangers.
Your mommy left you with her brother.
Your mommy left you with her dad, with her dad.
Have we ever done anything bad to you that made you not one?

(01:00:55):
And the answer is no. Then why are you crying?
And then since then she stopped.You know what I'm saying?
Because I I reassured her that we're not going to let anything
happen to you. And and that's the thing, as a
child, they just need that reassurance.
Yeah, you're still in a safe place.

(01:01:15):
Yeah, You know, and. Also, the children don't know
how to process their feelings. I actually have a really good
chart that helps kids and I wishthat I would have had that as a
child that it helps you visualize like how you're
feeling because you don't alwayshave a the work that you're

(01:01:35):
feeling that anxiety and the stress.
And so it boils down to one or two things.
You're either happy or you're angry or you're sad, right?
Or the three things you don't know how to say.
I have anxiety. I don't know how to say I'm
depressed. I don't know how to say these
different things. I'm feeling them or like I'm
scared that my mom's not coming back.

(01:01:56):
It's not even, you know, it's not like I know mom's coming
back, but I just don't know whenand I don't, I don't know what's
going to happen between now and then.
And I'm going to miss her until she comes back because that's.
I think that for, well, kids, I believe are the most honest
people, way more honest than than than I'll ever be because

(01:02:20):
even though they don't know for the most part, how to convey
their feelings, they know how todo it in the way that they
understand. And being that we're adults, you
know, hey, I, you know, I don't feel well.
OK, well, explain to me how you don't feel well, you have a
headache, are you depressed or whatever.

(01:02:42):
They don't know the advanced words of oh, I suffered from
seasonal depression or, you know, I think I have, you know,
Asperger. They they don't know these
things. They know how they feel.
They and then they say what comes to mind.
So I feel like children, they will always be honest with you.
Well, they're honest. I agree with that.

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I just don't think that they arequite mentally capable of
quantifying what those feelings are.
They don't know the different feelings.
Yeah, it feels wrong. It feels different feel.
Odd. They don't even know how to say
I feel odd, you know, it's and sometimes they're like, I don't
know, and they just know that something.

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'S not right. They don't know the language and
they don't know the terminology.They don't know the lingo.
They just know. I feel like, I mean, they're not
going to come out and say I feellike shit.
Like you and I, if we're feelingotherwise, we know it because
sometimes it's something that we've probably have been through
before. We know how to articulate
exactly what we're feeling. Yeah.

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And now with with a child, you know, they're not, you know,
they're not as developed or theydon't pay the bills.
We pay like there's a added stress on top of that.
You know, kids for the most part, are carefree, you know, So
it's like, you know, And so usually when they're feeling

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otherwise, chances are it's because of their social circle
is making them feel that way. Or maybe something is happening
at home that they don't understand and they don't know
how to express it. You know, You know they don't
know. How to?
They don't know. Go ahead, go on.
I was, I was just thinking I'm as, as you were saying, they

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don't know how to express it. I'm thinking about self and I'm,
I'm thinking of scenarios that I've seen children and they
don't know how to express them. But the scenarios that I see in
my head was they were sitting inthe back of the car while Uncle
Charlie and they were smoking weed.
So these kids got a contact guy or, or they've been, they've

(01:04:54):
been drinking Uncle Buddy's beer.
And you know what I'm saying? And things like this happen.
Things like this happen and children, I'm not saying that
they are, I'm not saying that they're drunk or they, they are,
they're buzzed or whatever, but things like this happen.

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And kids, they don't know how toarticulate, you know, Hey, my
stomach hurts, you know? It's it's funny that you say
that. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you a story. When I was living in West TX, I
Remember Me, my brother and my sister.
It was a Friday night, we're watching TV and one of the shows
that we like to watch back in the day was called Picket

(01:05:36):
Fences. We.
Love that show. So my mom comes in and we
couldn't help but notice that our sister was in the kitchen in
the refrigerator. So we're thinking she's getting
some water or whatever. After a while, my sister started

(01:05:56):
to act so outside of herself, like she was laughing and she
was falling down a lot. And we're just like, like what's
going on here? We would like stand her up and
she would fall down and we're like, something is wrong.
And my mom was in the kitchen and she grabs a like a, it was

(01:06:23):
like a, a container, like those little water containers where
she had made pineapple fermentedwine that my sister got into
where she thought it was pineapple juice and she drank a

(01:06:45):
whole lot of it. And.
Yeah, and my mom was like, oh, she's drunk.
Why weren't you guys watching her?
We, we were, we thought she wentto go get water.
She drank half that the container.

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And my sister is 6. She's a she's yeah, she's six
years old. And she's by the door of the
kitchen just laughing, falling down, walking into the fucking
dining room table. And we didn't think nothing of
it. We thought she went, you know,
because my mom, she there was a way that she had wrapped these

(01:07:26):
up because she was letting it ferment and, you know, she had
wrapped it up in a towel and shewas like, guys, don't drink
this, I'm making wine. We knew it was there, but we did
not know that she would go in and, and take it.
And so our theory was she tastedit.
She thought it was sweet. And she just went to town,

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didn't even think twice, you know what I'm saying?
So my mom went out to go joggingat the school.
She she would go work out at theschool and then she would come
back and she got to meet her drunk daughter for the first
time at age 6 passing out. And we got, you know, we kind of
got in trouble for it because wewere supposed to be watching

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her, but we had no idea she would go into that like in that,
like she didn't even, she didn'teven smell like wine.
That was the weird thing about it.
Like we didn't even smell it on her.
So so. If she was 6, how old were you?
I was 12. OK, Yeah, there's a, there's
like a Well, let me see. No.

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That's still pretty good. No, I was, no, I was 13.
Yeah, 13 because there's like a seven-year difference between me
and her. OK.
Wow, I was. I was sitting here thinking and
there's something I want to talkto you about.
That has been that I've been talking.
OK, OK, So yeah, it's that's funny to me.

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I, I keep laughing about it every time I think about it.
So Marianne's Marianne's sister has a cousin, right?
Her her half sister has a cousin.
My. Step my step mom's nephew.
OK, let's put it that way. My step mom's nephew.

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OK, a family relative, we'll putit in that, a family relative.
And come to find out that he tried to kill himself a few
years ago, right? And he took enough fentanyl to
kill 10 people, right? So he succeeded.

(01:09:41):
He succeeded. He succeeded in killing.
Himself at first, right enough, but but he succeeded enough.
He succeeded enough where they put him.
They put him in the morgue. He had a toe tag on and he was
in the freezer and he woke up. He woke up.

(01:10:03):
Oh, wow. Yeah.
And my question was, what? I wonder whose ship he woke up
on, because I wonder if they still weren't there.
Because I'm thinking I'm like just.
I'm like, I've got to ask. Him all had somebody waking up
on your ship, they had a toe tagon it.

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You knew was Dave. Would you still be at the job
that you're working? Well, that depends on the money
that I'm making. I mean, but I would be wow that
I would, I would, I would. That would be a great story for

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the rookies. I would.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't quit. But at the same time, if I was
the boss, I would be like somebody fucked up.
Yeah, OK. Well, the whole thing is.
They said that he is so much fitnow and they they couldn't feel,

(01:11:06):
they couldn't, they couldn't. I.
Don't think is it. It would have slowed down his
heart so much that they wouldn'thave been able to detect a
heart. Right.
So they didn't. They didn't detect a heartbeat
and they to be. To be honest with you, they're
not. It's not their fault.
I don't find, I wouldn't even find them liable, you know what

(01:11:26):
I'm saying? Because again, you got somebody
who took so much drug. There's a lot of drugs out there
where you know. It seems with the hibernation
stage your heart actually slows down.
Everything is. Relaxed, right?
Right. So like I said, with that being
said, they, you know that there's a body that's been there

(01:11:49):
for an hour. They're supposed to be digging
for six hours, for six hours. Avalon sit there, it's got a toe
tag on it. Have you seen it in the in the
drawer and in the freezer? And it gets up, it walks, starts
walking around. 2 words. 2 words.

(01:12:10):
Occupational hazard. Oh my God, occupational hazard
bro. I mean, again, I, I would, I
wouldn't, I would probably be embarrassed, but I wouldn't be
like, hey, man, I quit. That's I'd be like, look, it's a
miracle God exists, you know, like.
Oh, I'd have been. Well, here's Here's what's so
crazy about. It Because here's the thing,

(01:12:33):
here's the thing, how many timeshave you read a report or seen
of the show where somebody was clinically dead for 5 minutes?
You know what I'm saying? And then they brought them back.
I. Was right for 5 minutes.
So so there you go. So if somebody but.
This was not anybody bringing him back.
He just. Oh God.
Yeah, he woke. Up OK, there's a few questions
about it myself. I I have a lot of questions like

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how long was he in there and whodiagnosed it?
And yeah, right until time of death.
I feel bad for the president whose name is on that death
certificate, who pronounced him dead.
I mean, it's like, whoa. I mean, like, I don't think
there's enough white out to fix that problem.
You know, like shit, like I'll be like, died this day, born

(01:13:19):
again this day. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sad. You know it.
It's. Sad, but that's a very funny
story. So I mean, hey, that that is
that. I've never heard of that ever
happening. And mind you, I've worked around
dead people before, right? I have, I had, I, I have done

(01:13:43):
things to new people at my job that I mean nothing, nothing any
other place is a fireable offense.
Fireable offense. OK, there's certain things you
don't do to dead people. There's certain things, you
know, I mean, one of the things,Oh my God, I remember one time

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I'm working around a dead body, fixing the casket and one of my
Co workers, somebody who I've been riding with, he's like,
I'll be right back. I got to go get something from
the car from from the. He had to get like a what did he
have to get? Oh.
We had he had to get an extension cord because I had to
work on a casket that was further away and my cord wasn't

(01:14:29):
long enough. So he's like, oh, I'll go get
and as I'm Jesus Christ, as I'm working on fixing one of the
hinges for those wooden casket, this mother fucker.
And it's just, he turns off the light and just screams out loud

(01:14:50):
and I get, I freak out. I freak out.
And he is that the, I mean, all he did was flick off the light
and I'm just like, Oh my God. And I'm on my knees like in a
cower wing position. And, and he is by the door by

(01:15:11):
the light switch in the Chapel of this Funeral Home.
We're not even at, we're not even at our work.
We're at a Funeral Home. And he is laughing.
Who else comes up from the basement of the Funeral Home?
The funeral director also laughing.
I mean, and they're like, did weget you?

(01:15:34):
Did we get you? You've never worked this close
to a dead body before. I was like, you know what?
Fuck all of you. I wish I was working on your
caskets right now. I I It was just.
And again, it was a simple prank, but my heart was racing
and there's a body right here. I.
Was going to say, didn't you saythere was a body in the casket

(01:15:55):
you were working on? There's a there's a black old
lady in the fucking casket that I was working on and he flicked
off the lights and he shouted like this ghoulish and I and
again, I didn't like, I looked like a bitch dude.
Like I was just like, I did thisand I was like, wait, and and I

(01:16:17):
don't mean the the weird thing is like my body just did that on
its own. I didn't think to do it.
That's when the light that when the light was on, that's how I
was. And I was like, you know, dude,
not funny. He was like, ah, come on,
they're dead. They're not going to do
anything. I'm like, not fucking funny.
And but the part that made it like even more funny was you can

(01:16:40):
hear footsteps from the basementand another person laughing.
And it's the funeral director just fucking having the time of
his life. First time I've met him, by the
way. First time I'm at this, you
know, I'm new to this. And they're, they're laughing at
me and they're just like, sorry,we had to get you.
We do this to the new guys all the time.

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So now I I'm like, oh, OK, I guess it's OK.
So when we have to take a casketfrom the truck, from the from
the sidewalk into the building, what I like to do, depending on
how light the casket is, becausethere's pedestrians, there's
people walking between, you know, the car and the building.

(01:17:25):
So what we do is we shake the casket.
We're like, Oh my God, we thought he was dead.
And it makes the fuck out of people.
And yo, you'll be yeah, yeah, bro, bro, we will shake the
casket. And I mean, we would look like
Oh my God, we. I thought, I thought you took

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care. Of it, it's like we didn't know.
And mind you, Manhattan, MidtownManhattan, you know, a bunch of
people walking by. We, I remember we scared this
lady walking her dog like she was, she freaked the fuck and
she ran around us and, and we, you know, but again, it's like
we so we have to find ways to make our job fun, you know what

(01:18:11):
I'm saying? Or sometimes we'll take a casket
out and we'll we'll walk by a bunch of people like, wow, you
smell that, you know, like. You know.
Like thank God we're bringing itin here.
So it was and, and you know, the, and again, I've done some
things that it was just like borderline illegal, maybe
depending on, you know, perspective, but you know, the

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we, we work on, we work on, you know, and, and The thing is,
it's like that job. I will say this, I'm really glad
I had that job because it made me appreciate life more
considering the first two monthsI drank heavy every day because
of the things that I saw. But even now when I think about

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my mortality, you know, you know, my coworkers are like it.
Hey, you want to see a dead body?
I'm like another day in the office where I used to work at.
Yeah, where, you know, I'm like,like things don't.
I've seen horrible stuff, things.
I'm not freaked out. I think if I saw a dead body
now, I would be shocked because we don't see the bodies in the

(01:19:21):
form of how the police finds them or how a loved one finds
them. We find them in the best, like
they're at peace. They're well dressed.
I mean, they dress better than me Whenever I go to work.
I'm like, damn. But and, and, and even up to
this day, there's still people who think I still work in that
industry where they're just like, Hey, my uncle died.

(01:19:45):
What do you think I can get for a casket at your job?
And I'm like, you have not been paying attention to my Facebook
posts at all because I haven't worked there in almost two
years. And they're like, oh, I thought
you were still in that industry.No, I just got a lot of pens
from funeral homes that I visited.
That's as close. I even the other day I wore, I

(01:20:06):
still have my, my uniform from the like the T-shirts that has
the name of the job on it. And one of the temps at the work
that works in the warehouse saw it.
And he was like, I used to work there too, come to think about
it during our timeline. When I first worked there, they
had 21 temps. He was one of them.

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And he, he worked there for likea while.
And then when there was time forthem to when things were slowing
down and they wanted to hire twoof us, they fired all the temps
and, and I was one of them that got hired and I was like, yeah,
I worked there for like a a goodwhile.
And he knew everybody there. And I was like, yeah.
And he was like, wow, it's funnythat we're here now except for I

(01:20:54):
work upstairs. I'm, you know, in my division
and he works in the warehouse. And it's just, it's weird.
It was a small world, but he knew the company, he knew
everybody there. And I'm like a lot of changes
I've been made since then. But you know, it was a small
world. But I do think about the from
time to time I do think about it.
And Speaking of that, I don't know if I told you guys last
week or the week before when we talked about the shows that

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we're binge watching that show the Mortician on Max.
Yes. And we're actually, you know
what, talk about a great segue. I mean, we could probably just
jump into that because it takes us a while to talk about it.
You want to talk? Talk about no, the mortician,
because that's the national it'sa.
Documentary, yeah, it's a documentary about a gentleman

(01:21:43):
who was basically what he did was he did the cremations for
funeral homes. So yeah, so but he was doing a
lot of illegal stuff as like he was doing like there was, if I
remember correctly, like hundreds of cremations a month
to a point where I got that thousands of cremations a month.

(01:22:05):
And not for nothing, they, I, I,I've never like seen a cremation
myself. I hear it takes about an hour
and a half for it to fully go through because a lot of the
families, they want the ashes. But here's the problem.
Some of those ashes were mixed with other people's ashes.
So they think, yeah, so they think they're getting just the

(01:22:28):
ashes or the majority of the ashes of the people that they
were cremating, when in fact, they were just basically
cremating people. More than one people, sometimes
5 people at a time. That's illegal.
That's that they were doing veryunethical things, but they were
raking in the money, you know, so it turns out the gentleman

(01:22:53):
who they were interviewing is doing like 25 years for a lot of
the illegal practices that he was doing with the cremations.
And he had like, you know, he had a crackhead working with him
and he he was paying them well enough to, you know, have his
crack addiction be supplied. And again, I only watched one

(01:23:17):
episode, but it brought so many things close to home as far as I
mean, you know, you're either going to be buried in the
ground, which is, I mean, if they, it's cheaper to be
cremated. But these guys were making, and
these guys were based out of California and they were making
money hand over fist. You know, they said, and you saw

(01:23:37):
that building, if you saw that building smoking, they were
doing cremations, but they were just doing, you're supposed to
do 1 cremation at a time. But that wasn't even just what
they were doing. They would take the body and
they would take the teeth. They would they would have a cup
that says. Tips.
Or caps. And they were taking the crowns

(01:23:57):
from people's mouths and they were melting it.
Yeah. You're not.
You're not supposed to do that. You're supposed to give every
belonging, whether it's jewelry or whatever, to the.
Family they were going into. Their, they were going into
their grills getting whether it's like fillings or gold teeth

(01:24:19):
or whatever and they were keeping it for themselves and
they kept it in a cup and you know, however much.
Melted down and did. Yeah, they did.
And they, they did shit like that, man.
And I was like, I didn't even know shit like that happened,
but it was it was very, very. And so and again, I'm like, if
that was episode 1, I can't waitto see like the rest of the

(01:24:44):
series to see what other Sure. And then then they took a lot of
shortcuts. Oh, why so see?
The evils of man is is is ridiculous and with Benjamin.
Well, it's not only that. What I what I was getting to
with the evils of man is Marianne read a story hear the

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other thing about about others home.
It was, it was like runs by nuns, right?
They unwed mothers and they pluginto the septic tank.
Right, well, hold on. It was it was run and now keep

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in mind this was in Ireland which is very Irish Catholic and
there was several, several of these kind of homes.
But this particular home had wasrun from 1929 to 1961, which
tracks for for the morality at the time that unwed mothers, you

(01:25:49):
know, they would put them in these homes, right?
And they they're exhuming the septic tank right now because
they had heard about a lot of the infants had died and there
was only one recorded death and burial from 1929 to 1961.

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And they have since found over. 800.
Infants. Infants.
In septic tank there, there 5. There remains over 800.
There was more than one of thesehomes in Ireland and they said
that they they feel that there'sover 5000 infants that had been

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Yeah. And I found like.
And this is, you know, and, and when you think about it, when
you go, this was supposed to be during that, that time as the
Catholic Church, you know, wherethe Catholics were, you know,
you think it's supposed to be. Church it's.
Supposed to be religion. It's supposed to be they're

(01:27:01):
nuns. They're supposed to be, you
know, teaching you about it's a safe place and teaching you
about God and the afterlife and how to be more, you know, have a
moral code. And yeah.
And instead, you know, these people, like they, all these
nuns that were running it knew about it.

(01:27:22):
They knew that they they put them in a septic tank, you know?
Yeah, that's that's that's, that's not even.
Oh, that's just the law so low. That's this.
Yes, I'm. Like it's the, it's the, it's,
it's staggering. It's staggering on.

(01:27:43):
It yeah, I mean it's it's very it you know and and as you're
telling the story, you know, I, I think I think back at the time
that I one of the most hard I mean like even you know with the
last job, one of the most hardest parts of the job,
believe it or not, is when I geta ticket to pull a a certain

(01:28:09):
casket. And and when I look at the
location it's on it's at a tablewhere we keep the baby caskets.
And the hardest thing to do is when you have to go to a Funeral
Home and you see the casket and let me tell some these things
these caskets are light they're just so light that you don't

(01:28:32):
even. I don't even need help
delivering it. You know, it's just like, and
because you know, somebody pint size is going to be in there,
you know, and you know, and it'sso to to to the, to the funeral
director or the, or the people receiving it.

(01:28:52):
You know it. It's one of those, you know,
elephant in the room type of things.
You know, it's one thing if we bring out a large casket, it
could be for anybody who probably lived their life or,
you know, whatever. But when you bring something
that small for some for for a being that hasn't really got to

(01:29:15):
experience life, but only for a short moment, that's always the
awkwardness of giving that just conveying that casket to the
funeral director. Because you know that the family
who's going to receive it is probably is, is hurting like
crazy. Because you know, whether it's a

(01:29:37):
stillborn, we call them stillborn caskets or baby
caskets, of course, for obvious reasons.
Sometime I remember one time, you know, it was so it was we, I
delivered 1 and I was like, please tell me this is for a 90
year old Midget. And the funeral director was

(01:30:00):
like, unfortunately, you take that 90, maybe subtract, I don't
know, 82, maybe, you know, like,you know, like, maybe subtract
88, you know. But it was just like, you know,
they knew that I'm like, this isme trying to lighten the dark.

(01:30:22):
Mood. You know, sometimes it's like
some of this is for like, you know, a 90 year old, you know, 3
1/2 foot pimp or something and it's but not it's you know.
You know what, Jamal, though, I gotta I gotta say that, you
know, hearing you talk about it with your emotion about how it

(01:30:42):
impacted you as a mother who lost her child at a very young
age, right. I had a a a my daughter died
after living in Allen 10 minutesand how devastating it was.
I have to say that, you know, itnever occurred to me and, and
thank you because your compassion for these other
parents and these children, thattouches me.

(01:31:04):
It means a lot to me because in my group, I never would have
considered that anybody else would have felt that impact of
the passing of my child. So it's it's actually very
touching to me. Well, I think, well, I mean,
thank you, but at the same time it's like, you know, I never
look at it as I mean again. I lost my grandmother.

(01:31:27):
I saw her get buried and this was a way before I was even in
the business. Like, I know that I'm at a point
where a lot of our, you know, people that are close to us are
going to die. And you know, but at the same
time, for in your case and in people like you, in those cases,

(01:31:49):
you know, it's, you know, it's and I don't mean to sound
cliches, but our kids, their jobis to bury us.
It's not supposed. To be the other day around,
yeah. No parent should ever outlive
their child. It's it's the worst nightmare
you can have and it's a club that nobody wants to be in.
But. Unfortunately, we are, I mean,
some of us do and you know, we can hope that we have a positive

(01:32:14):
that we can spin it. Like with me, I, I donated her
to science and they actually, you know, there was a lot of
things that were discovered because of that.
And so it, it was definitely a blessing.
And I, I can honestly say that my daughter's an Angel.
She's an Angel for real because she, you know, her life actually

(01:32:36):
meant something because when she, I, they told me when I
donated her that I would never hear any of the results of, of
the research. But as a chance of habitat, I
was listening to the radio. I was kind of flipping channels
and I was listening to the RadioOne day and they happened to say
that they'd had a recent scientists had a breakthrough

(01:32:58):
on. And I don't know if you know
that Katie Sagal, same situationas mine.
Her baby was. Yeah, right.
So she lost her baby, same kind of thing.
She was like 6 months pregnant and she ended up losing her baby
and. So.
They found that there's actuallybacteria on the outside of a

(01:33:22):
woman's vagina that can get inside and actually cause an
infection inside of the inside of the the SAC.
And so the amniotic SAC and it can get inside and it can cause
a preemie or it can cause a, youknow, preterm labor.

(01:33:42):
And a lot of times it's at a stage at that five and a half,
six months that the the baby isn't always viable.
And so that and so they had since then they had decided to
recommend to gynecologist to regularly screen for that
bacteria at that stage of pregnancy in women.

(01:34:02):
And so I just happened to hear that when I was on flipping
through the channels on the radio and.
What do? You do at 5 1/2 to six months
pregnancy. Yeah, yeah, my.
Son was born in. Yeah.
And he's always been turned. And that's something that you

(01:34:23):
can never prepare yourself. No, I've, I've, I've tried to.
There's no I've I've been prepping myself.
Or trying to. But I'll never be ready.
I'll never be. Ready.
It's devastating, but. You know, they've, they've, my
son is beating the odds on everylevel.

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At first they said he wasn't going to make it through the
night and then they said he wasn't going to make it through
the week and they said, well, he'd be lucky if he'd make it 6
months. Then they said.
Then they they came out and theysaid, well, they make it to
three years and then they after three years or he looks like he

(01:35:07):
might be out of the woods, but he was born with CMV and
children born with CMV pass on between the ages of 14 and 16.
We had a scare. We did have a scare at 16
because we were going to Children's Hospital and we came

(01:35:30):
for one of his check UPS and we walk into the hospital and we
took him upstairs and me and me and his mother went downstairs,
had lunch and the nurses ran up to us Yadi and we flipped out
and we ran upstairs and we're like, what are you talking
about? You mean you lost my son?

(01:35:53):
You know, he was just here to get a check up.
So we went upstairs and there was another kid named Kyle Nash
there in the same age, and we see this kid and him playing
with each other and he passed away.
But we had to go through all thered tape because they said my

(01:36:18):
son died and they put it on a birth on a death certificate.
So we had to re get all his medications done.
It was a nightmare. It took about a year to get all
that stuff fixed. And but like I said, he's
beating the odds. Like I said, pretty fun now.
Yeah, he'd be 30. He's 31 years now. 31 OK.

(01:36:40):
Yeah, and he's still with us andevery day is a blessing.
I've never worked. I have never worked on his
birthday a day in my life and never would, No.
No, because we always have to beable to communicate with him.
And the hardest, I think one of the hardest things, that was the
worst thing about COVID was thathe didn't get to see his son
because his son lives in Canada.He couldn't see his son for two

(01:37:01):
years. And his he, he would talk to
him, he'd be able to talk to himon the phone.
But he kept asking, you know, Daddy, when you come to get me,
Daddy, when are you coming up here?
And it was just heartbreaking. It was so heartbreaking to not
be able to just get in the car and say, hey, I'll be there
tomorrow or hey, I'll soon, I'llbe there soon and then be able
to get in the car and take the ferry and go up there to go see

(01:37:23):
him. Yeah.
They weren't as close. Yeah, they, they weren't.
And then even after the borders opened, because there was still
such a, a concern, because the respite home he lives in has
other kids or other, you know, other adults, young adults who
also were very immune challengedor compromised that they were
like, you can come see him, but if you come see him, he's going

(01:37:46):
to be, have to be locked in his room for the next 7 days, on
next 1414 days. And he, he would have
understand, he's very high energy.
So he would not have understood why am I being locked?
It would have been like a worst It would have been a punishment
for him. Yeah, he would have probably
thought that he did something wrong and he would have that
idea. And he couldn't understand.
He couldn't understand. He didn't understand COVID, you

(01:38:07):
know, he didn't understand that sickness or anything.
He didn't understand any of that.
And so as hard as it was for us not to go see him, it would have
been so much more. It would have been So, yeah, so
said he had to go an extra year even after they opened the
borders where he couldn't see his son.
That must have been. Rough.

(01:38:30):
It was, it was, it was nightmarish.
It really was. It was so heartbreaking,
especially to her see, you know,because he had FaceTime when his
mom was finally able to go see him, she would FaceTime Romeo
and he's like Daddy, daddy, whenyou coming to see me and
afterwards, you know, they'd have a good conversation, you

(01:38:51):
know, And then afterwards he's all tearing up just like gut
wrenched. So it was rough.
Yeah, it was, it was, it was a time.
So but you know, next note, justget on happy.
Yeah, happy note. So I just want to say one thing.

(01:39:11):
I know that we kind of like havebeen talking recently.
We talked a lot about Trump. As much as we hate Trump, we got
to admit that that sum bitch gives us something to talk
about, right? It may be like Armageddon.
And I'm telling you that every day I feel closer and closer.
I don't know if I told you I have.
I have in my cupboard a big bottle of Dan Aykroyd Skull

(01:39:34):
Vodka. But I have.
I'm very aware of that. Yes, and I have it set aside for
it's my apocalypse vodka. And I tell you because in the
apocalypse we're too old, fat and out of shape for and
disabled to try and save ourselves.
So we've got them white rocking chairs on our front porch and
we're going to crack that suckeropen and just get shit faced on

(01:39:56):
the porch and go. Wait, here we go.
Come on baby, we're going again.Hang on, let's go to my next
adventure. Our last adventure to the next
life and. So that's I guess if y'all going
to do that I'll try crack for the first time and see what the
big deal is. Why not?

(01:40:17):
Be like, let's, let's see what new Jack City was talking about.
You know, right? Right.
I think we need to try, you knowwhat we we need to have like we
need to talk to some drug addicts and tell them which are
the good drugs. I think the last drug that we
need to try is heroin. I don't know coke or heroin.
I. I think I, I think I could live

(01:40:38):
the rest of my life without doing heroin.
I don't like needles and I'm definitely not sharing needles.
So you know it. So at 85, we've got a pet.
Where we're going to start doingall the drugs we can.
So if we hit 85, I'm smoking weed.

(01:40:59):
We're. Talking about I'm smoking crack,
I'm smoking coke, I'm I'm doing the math.
Well, what? About it.
Oh mushrooms, that's massive LSD, can you?
Even get LSD? Hell no.
Tomorrow can we get some LSD? In in today's world, I don't
think so. I think that's like the same
thing. LSD and acid, it's kind of like

(01:41:22):
hand in hand. Are they OK?
What? What was the What was the drug
that Cosby used to roofie everybody?
Oh, Fabian got somebody. I don't sure.
Wait, you mean wait the the daterape drug?
Yeah, no, but it was, it startedwith AC or something, but it's a
drug from the AC. No, it's a.

(01:41:42):
Are you? Talking about quaaludes, yes.
Quaaludes. Thank you.
They don't. They don't make them anymore,
yes. And you know what?
I actually had somebody that I worked with, my boss, who was a
much younger person, actually about the age of my kids, and
asked me if I'd ever tried Quaaludes.
And I looked at him and I'm like, I haven't even tried

(01:42:03):
marijuana. It's like I don't do any kind of
drugs just because I was in the 80s.
Why would you think that? I I don't even know what
Quaaludes are or what they were supposed to do.
Everybody, if you were in, if you were like working on Wall
Street, a lot of those dudes were on Quaaludes.
A lot of those. Yeah.

(01:42:25):
I mean, it was like it was just you.
You, you've never you. I mean, wait, you you've never
done quaaludes either, Roman? No, we've never done nothing.
We're. Not.
We've never done any. Drugs I remember was huffing.
They used to do huffing and I worked with.

(01:42:47):
Girls that would take I worked at Dairy Queen and what these
girls would do was they would whip cream and they would.
Whip it. Whip it.
Yeah. Whip it.
I don't know. Yeah.
All I know is. That.
Because there isn't, I'll liquidit.
I'm like what the? Fuck yeah, I worked at I worked
at Castles Sex Store and we spell them.

(01:43:10):
We used to sell the wickets. Really.
Yeah, we should sell this. You can sell those in the store,
OK. Yeah, they have whippets and I
think it's I think it's the, it's the freon or whatever from
the can. I don't think it's Freon.
I don't think it's all Freon. It's something else, but that's.

(01:43:32):
I don't know. So the aerosol, it's the
aerosol, yeah. So.
Quaaludes back in the day, they used to call them disco
biscuits. That's I, I, I've heard that
term before. So and it, it was like super
popular like in like the, the like like the 60s and 70s and I

(01:43:58):
think part of the 80s, but they used to call them disco
biscuits. I was trying to like wait, they
used to they because every drug has like a a nickname.
Like. A nickname, yeah.
So Disco Biscuits was one of them.
And, and, and, but again, it wasjust like, because, again, a lot
of people were going to Studio 54 back in the day here in, you

(01:44:21):
know, New York, and they were just drugged out of their
fucking minds. A lot of them were probably
coking up doing quaaludes. And, you know, it's yeah, it was
just one of those things that people did and.
And again, the the whippets people, people have gun
whippets. As a matter of fact, I just

(01:44:43):
googled Quaalude. They became a popular drug for
recreational use in the late 60sand 70s at, you know, in discos.
That tracks that. Tracks.
Yeah, the the effects includes drowsiness and reduced heart
rates and respirations and overdose of the drug, which was

(01:45:05):
highly addictive, can cause comaor.
Death. Why would you want to take it if
you, if it did so hold on in thedisco, You would think that they
would want something peppier to go dance to, to make them want
to instead of something that made them want to take a nap.
Unless you're roofing somebody with them, well, you know,

(01:45:27):
making them pass out, I don't understand why they would want
to take that. Well, you got to look here.
Well, here it it there. Are a lot of them.
Here's the thing though, Quaaludes was used for people
who had insomnia. If you couldn't sleep, you were
taking quaaludes. So not for nothing because it

(01:45:50):
because it relaxes you, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like it's kind of a downer, you know what I'm saying?
Which I don't understand becauseit's like, why would yeah, why
would you use a drug like that? People that were on coke, coke
was were staying up all night. They were dancing all night all.
Night, yeah, and then they wanted to come and bring it down

(01:46:13):
and not so they take play loose after they had snorted coke for
five hours. They actually referred to like a
hypnotic sedative. So it's like, let me tell you
like, so again, if you work on Wall Street, you're probably
doing coke before you even get into the fucking door of your
office. And then you're so hot, hot

(01:46:35):
hopped up, you want to go to a club.
But you know, and, and again, I don't know.
I don't know. So why would you take a downer
if you're going to be dancing all night?
Why would you take a muscle? Relaxer.
Maybe you would take one after maybe.
Just, you know. Could want to like.

(01:46:56):
I mean, I guess if you were trying to come down from the
cocaine. Or even the hyped up with the
dancing and everything and you're jacked up.
So how many? Drugs.
How many different? I'm sorry, what was that?
How many different? Drugs.
How many different drugs are uppers?
I mean, because marijuana that makes you sleepy, doesn't it?

(01:47:19):
Or tired. Yeah, it, it relaxes me.
I I don't, I don't feel like doing chores when I'm smoking
weed. Right, right.
And then so so so and famine yougot your upper is what 8 100
times the the what on speed speed.
Speed. Yeah, speed is an upper.
And cocaine is an upper right. Definitely an upper.

(01:47:40):
Yeah, situates. Are at first.
So they bring you down so. Like like when I'm on acid, I so
it's a, it's a psychedelic. It's a psychedelic.
It's neither one. It's not an upper or a downer.
But that's the weird thing aboutit.
The last time I did it, I probably logged 20,000 steps in

(01:48:05):
one day because I was, I was so fucking high.
It's it's, it's definitely one of the.
Again, I can't. Tell if it's an upper, but when
you're off of it, you are tired as shit.
When me and my brother did it when my brother came to visit
and he was like, dude, we are doing acid and we're going into

(01:48:29):
the city and I was like, no, thefuck we're not.
We're going to do this acid and we're going to go to Coney
Island because I don't want thatthe lights in the city.
I don't I've never done it before at the time.
And I'm like, we're going to do it in a place where if I fall
out, it's going to be in the sand.
It's going to be in a place where it looks like I belong

(01:48:49):
there. If I pass out on a garbage dump
on 5th Ave., I don't want, I don't want people to run my
pockets in, you know, whatever. So we did it in Pony.
Island where everybody else on the boardwalk, every other
person is either drunk off theirass or high as shit.
We would fit in, you know, so, and, and The thing is, and The

(01:49:12):
thing is, when I first did it, it didn't feel like an upper to
me because my heart wasn't beating so fast.
It kind of felt like I was in a psychedelic trip where it's
like, OK, me and my brother, theday that we did it, from the
moment we woke up from to do ourfamily reunion, because we did
it during family reunion weekend, my calves, my calves

(01:49:38):
were on fire. Then we woke up the next
morning, he woke up, he called me, I went to work the next
morning, at the next day for like 1/2 a day and he was like,
dude, my fucking calves are on fire.
It literally felt like somebody poured gasoline on my calves and
struck a match. They were burning.

(01:49:59):
My thighs were burning. We walked 7 1/2 miles throughout
Manhattan. Now again, up or downer.
We did a lot of walking. We did some drinking.
We got, we was in Coney Island. Then we came home.

(01:50:21):
I, I, I took a shower. I redressed my brother like
we're going back out. We crossed the man, the Brooklyn
Bridge with drinks. We we bought some tall boys.
We crossed the Brooklyn Bridge. We had a moment because when
you're on LSD or acid, you get you get breakthroughs, you know,

(01:50:44):
hey, maybe you shouldn't be dating stupid ass women or maybe
I should, you know, whatever. Like we were trading
breakthroughs. We were so fucking stoned out of
our minds that it was it was like a truth serum.
He was like, hey, I remember we had the conversation.
Hey, you're a funny, you're a funny guy, but behind the funny,

(01:51:04):
what else do you have to offer? And I'm like, fuck you, you
know, like we're crossing the bridge with beer in our high
hands, mind you, still being philosophical at each other.
You know what I'm saying? Haven't had, mind you, having
the tough Big Brother, little brother conversation.
And you know what? I think we were better for that

(01:51:27):
still. High off on, still high on our.
Asses. I remember we sat down at a.
Park. On the southern eastern part of
Central Park, we're on 5th Ave. and like 50 9th St. area.
We sat on a bench by Grand Army Plaza there where they shoot, I

(01:51:47):
think the CBS morning show. And we sat there until the sun
rose and then we walked to what,Rockefeller Center.
And then we walked all the way down to Union Square, which is
14th St. Mind you, this is in the morning
now. Mind you, we've been walking all
night. This is the morning where we
just leaned on each other on a bench and then we ended up in

(01:52:10):
Union Square Park where I was like, I got to go to work and I
went straight to work from there.
And my brother came with me. He got up on one stop, I got off
on the last stop, and I worked on an acid hangover cleaning
caskets. Wow, so.

(01:52:30):
How long does acid land? Wow.
It depends on how much you take.My, the my brother, he double
dosed me. Yeah, we got into it.
We got into an argument before we even left the house.
And he was like, open your mouth.
And he went and I was like, whatthe fuck?

(01:52:52):
He was like, just kidding. But here's the thing.
It's like little sheets. You don't even know how much is
in your mouth. So midway while we're walking up
bridge, my brother was like, oh,by the way, I gave you two hits
and I was like. Two hits of what?
He's like, Oh yeah, that acid I put in your mouth, that was two
hits. Your high's going to last a lot

(01:53:12):
longer than mine. And it did.
Wow. That's a that's a shitty sibling
thing to do. Oh, and it lasted long.
I mean, even though I was still high, I thought he was high, but
he was. I don't know.
He wasn't, no, you know, but he was like, I'm just going to

(01:53:34):
sure, I'm going to, I'm going toguide you through this.
But, but the next day we had a family reunion That, that, that,
that Sunday we had a family reunion and we got my brother
got there super late. I, I showed up early, but I was

(01:53:55):
still feeling the remnants of, you know, the, the, the, the
acid. Mind you, I'm in the clothes
that I was in the night before. Wow.
I had to go to CVS and fresh getdeodorant freshen up.
I smelt like sweaty ass and I'm about to go to a family reunion

(01:54:17):
in the park hoping that nobody'sI had to like baby wipes the
whole 9YO. Yeah.
I had to do the horse bath in the CVS before going to a family
reunion where I'm going to be hot all day.
This was Memorial Day weekend where the sun's already out, the
humidity is already hitting me, and I'm sweating like.

(01:54:40):
A Oh, you already got those 20 hour balls going on.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was walking.
I went to ACI, went to ACVS, andI bought like wipes.
And I went to the counter and I said, ma'am, where's your
bathroom? And I don't even know at what
tone that I said that in becauseI'm still high.

(01:55:01):
I felt like, you know what? I felt like a Vegas prostitute.
Who was trying? To clean her insides out after a
after a trick. You know what I'm saying?
That's what I that's what I kindof felt like.
Excuse me, where's your bathroom?
My God, you know, for an extra 100, he did it inside me.
I got to get it out, you know? She.

(01:55:23):
Need a dental pic for that one to clean it out.
Yo, the lady was like, the lady was like, well, the bathrooms
are for the we don't have a bathroom.
And our men and I asked the question that I always ask,
well, when you have to go to thebathroom, where do you go?
And she was like, well, I go to the bathroom here and I'm like,

(01:55:45):
but you just told me you didn't have a bathroom.
So you lied to me. I just gave you money for these
wipes and this deodorant and I smelt like a fucking paper mill
and you lied to me And what if Iwant to get cleaned up?
I'm not going to do drugs in your bathroom.
I just want to get this assy smell off of me and I need your

(01:56:07):
bathroom to do. So.
And she, you know, let me use the bathroom because that I have
to say all these things to her. Yeah.
I'm like, look, I'm high, but I'm not.
Stupid, where do you go? Oh, you do have a bathroom.
So I just gave you money for forhygienic purposes, and I need to

(01:56:30):
use your bathroom. And you're just like, oh, no,
don't you know, like the most bathrooms are for customers
only. I'm a fucking customer.
Yeah, yeah, let me use a bathroom.
And boy, I was in there just like, yeah.
Yeah. I probably, I probably used 1/3
of the wipes and I definitely like deodorized.

(01:56:51):
It was just like I man. And I had to, I had to fake the
fact that underneath all this gloss of hygienic, you know,
application on me, deep down, I felt dirty.
The whole fucking family reunion.
Oh yeah, I. Felt I felt like such a fraud.
I'm like, Oh my God, she's my aunts.

(01:57:13):
Come in for the hug. Oh, you smell good, nephew.
I'm like, oh, thank God, you know, because if you knew how I
smoked three hours ago, you would have been like, Are you
sure you're part of this family?Because you don't smell.
You smell like a bum that, you know, slept on a train without
taking a bath. And yeah, that's what that and

(01:57:33):
I, you know, honestly, I don't think I've ever admitted any of
this stuff to any of my family members.
Mind you, during the family reunion, I was smoking weed,
like on a swing set. I was like, Yep, I'm just going
to continue doing drugs because I'm a single man with no one who
cares about what kind of drugs and how much of it I do.

(01:57:55):
Yeah, no. One could be like, wow, you
know, you do a lot of acid or wow, you do a lot of psychedelic
rooms, or I'm going to slow downon the ayahuasca trip.
I'm just like, no one is. No one is holding me
accountable. So what?
What is the hallucinogenic vegetables?
The shrimp hallucinogenics, but.It it doesn't.
Have to do the same thing. What is Ayahuca?

(01:58:18):
It's a root. It's like a root that sometimes
that's brewed into like a a drink and it's a psychedelic
drink. Really.
And. There, there's a treat you have
you never heard of it? No, yeah.
It's there's it's not completelylegal from what I understand.
There are some places that have like ayahuasca retreats, but

(01:58:40):
they're not licensed. But you, you, you drink this
drink and you're it's like DMTS.Your mind is just it runs away
from you like it's it's like deal with.
Young Guns, What is DMTS? That's the biggest chicken I've
ever seen. The last, the last time I went

(01:59:03):
on the ayahuasca trip was I think about I, I actually talked
about it a few weeks ago too. It's I think it was, it was like
around the memorial daytime memorial weekend.
And we took it was a couple, me,another dude and we decided to
bring somebody else who wasn't going to do it so they could

(01:59:25):
kind of like. Oh yeah, monitor.
Be like a border collie, make sure we're not going off the
path. And we decided not to use our
phones that weekend because we didn't want to.
We didn't want this, you know, going out, you know what I'm
saying? Because we might say something
that we might regret. And but our Sherpa guide was

(01:59:46):
telling me, at least when we're on the way home, she was like,
Jamal, you spoke to yourself a lot and you were really angry.
Yeah. She was like, I don't know if
you, you know, because you're supposed to have like a
breakthrough, like you're supposed to have like a
revelation, you know, like you're supposed to like dig deep
within yourself and find like, Iguess a, a hidden truth about

(02:00:10):
you or what have you And, and. You know, and this is DMT.
I I mean I don't know the DMT, Idon't know.
How DMT I. Don't know.
I thought that's what he said. That was what is.
DMT. It's well, DMT is like a it's a
psychedelic compound that's found in many plants.

(02:00:32):
OK. Yeah, so it's a psychedelic
again, just like ayahuasca, it'salso a psychedelic as well.
Well, as you can see, Jamal is our is our local resident drug.
I am, I am at the age where I'm at the age where I am
experimenting and, and again with the, with the, with the

(02:00:58):
ayahuasca and, and on top of that, I, I walked my, my Sherpa
guy told me that I did a lot of work.
We did it up in a bear mountain,which is about maybe two hour, 2
hours and change north of of NewYork.
And there's like cottages up there.
People go camping and whatnot. And it's high elevated and all

(02:01:21):
that beautiful, beautiful country.
We decided we wanted to do it inthe country and not at home
because I got I got nice things here.
I don't want to destroy my home.But we did it out in the woods.
We got we went camping the firstnight and then afterwards like

(02:01:41):
Friday Saturday we and then Sunday, Monday.
Well. Sunday for the most part, we
stayed in a cottage like that was there and I slept mostly
like that day because I was exhausted and me and my buddy
and my buddy, he was going through his own personal shit
too. But when you know, she told me

(02:02:06):
that she's like you talked, you talked to yourself in the third
person like you were talking as if you were talking to yourself.
You're having an out about experience and you're talking to
yourself. And I was like, well, what did
I, what was I talking about? What did I say?
And she said, to be honest with you, you were disappointed.
You were disappointed with your comedy.
You were disappointed with your life choices.

(02:02:27):
You were disappointed. You were talking about regrets
that you had. And I was like, and I'm just
like, and some of the stuff thatshe said that I said I believed
her because it was stuff that she didn't know, you know what
I'm saying? She would never know this unless
she had a conversation with me or I brought it up.
But she was like, no, it was almost like 2 of you were having

(02:02:51):
an argument with yourself. And she was like, you kept
walking around and you were, youknow, mind you, she's trying to
guide two people, you know, but she said you did a lot of
walking. She said, if I had to guess, you
probably walked two miles in onenight and well, one afternoon.
And she was like, that's kind ofa lot considering where we were

(02:03:14):
at. You know, I had to make sure
that you are not going into places that was unsafe.
She was like you I had to spend more time with, but you were
talking and you were walking andyou were just, you know, it was
almost like you were like drunk.But again, you're not drunk.
You're in a salute. You're in a psychedelic state
and you're having a what she from her point of view, was like

(02:03:37):
an out of body experience where you're having a discussion or
you're just talking to yourself,but it's like you're talking to
yourself, but you're also answering your own questions or,
or responding. So, and I'll, and again, I
don't, I don't remember that. I mean, because again, it it was
like my mind is just running away with me, running away from

(02:04:00):
me for that. Matter, I can see it because I
know that Native Americans, that's one of the things that
they would do is I peyote was they would use it as a religious
experience, right, They would do.
It. Right, and they would do that to
have that, but they also, like you said, you know, like they

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didn't, they would do it to try and, and gain a, a vision,
right? And I could see, I think I could
see that it would be very, very beneficial to people, but not if
you can't remember it, like if there's a way that you could

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track that, you know, what happened and you can obtain it,
that absolutely could be very beneficial.
But the conversation you had with yourself like that, that
would be a real come to Jesus conversation with yourself, like
your higher self talking to yourordinary self.
It's funny that you say that because when I did ask him with

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my brother, like I do recall theexperience.
I recall the conversations we'vehad.
I recalled where we went, I recalled what I saw.
And again, it is psychedelic. But I was at a point where it
was like, I can't control for the most part what I'm seeing
because I'm in this psychedelic headspace.

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But again, I remember the conversation.
I remembered everything that me and my brother went through.
I even remember the route we took when we was walking around
the city before we ended up at the final spot before, you know,
all that, all the stuff. I remember the conversation I
had with the lady at CBS, even though I still had a little bit
of that stuff in me with the ayahuasca.

(02:05:45):
It was like acid times 1000, youknow what I'm saying?
Like I had no control over my I had no control over anything.
My, my thoughts again, my thoughts were running away from
me. It was almost like certain parts
that I do sort of remember before going deep in that deep

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dive was I felt like you ever watch a soap opera and it's like
one problem and then they show you another scene and it's
another situation and they show you another scene.
It was like that but in full speed, you know, it was like I
was having one DREAM Act like a 15 second dream after another 15
second dream. And it's like I can't even

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remember what I was dreaming about, you know?
And again, this is my first timedoing it, so I did not know what
to expect. All I knew was I couldn't
control anything. You know what I'm?
Saying I don't. Think I would like that.
And here's a question I have foryou.
Is this that comparative to the other like you asked?

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Would you ever do it again? Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.
I do want to do it again, and I'm actually planning on doing
it again only because. What's so funny?
No sure there. Was presentation in that ass
like? Hell, you said how are you would

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you and if before she could finish saying do it again, you
was. Like yes, yes, now again.
For those who are. Listening, we were very careful
as far as the pre planning of this because it was just going
to be me and another dude who was actually coming who was
visiting from Colorado and and he was like, good, I got

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ayahuasca, let's do it at your house.
And I was like, no, but since you're here, I always have a
better plan than always the original plan because I'm like,
safety is the thing. So we were going to just we were
going to do it And then I was like, wait, hold on a second.
He's never done it before and I've never done it before.

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So I'm like, we're going to needa third person because and even
if, even if it means we have to go half on this person's room,
we should do it. And we found a, we found a young
lady who was a good friend of mine who I trust.
That's the important part, doingit with people that you trust.

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Because I've, I've read stories where people go on ayahuasca
retreats and they were left there because they got robbed
and they were left there. And again, these are not, these
are not sanctioned retreats. They're not licensed retreats.
So it's like, of course you got robbed.
Of course you got taken. So we, you know, we, we, we, we

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took her car, she drove up and down.
And the rule was we're going to leave our cell phones in the
glove compartment. We are not going to use our cell
phones for any reason unless it's an emergency and we need
like the paramedics. But aside from that, we're not
filming this. We are not taking pictures

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because, you know, I don't want,I, I definitely would probably
be embarrassed of, of what I saw.
And but she said she was going to take record of what happened.
You know what I'm saying? So and that, and she's our
basically, she's our Sherpa guy.She's making sure that everybody

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is OK, Everybody is where they're supposed to be.
If you want to get up and walk around, that's fine.
She's going to be by your side. And if I'm like going to walk
into a tree, you know, she'll turn me around.
She said she had to do that a handful of times, like because
again, you're not walking a straight line.
You are, you know, you're, you're a kite without a string

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basically. You know what I mean of.
Your surrounding. And you're definitely not aware
of your surroundings. So you have to have somebody who
was going to and, and the rule was you are not to partake in
any of it. And she didn't want to.
So it worked out. We paid we, and being that she's
a woman, we paid for an additional room for her and you

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know, paid for gas and all of that.
We made sure that we took care of her.
And, and I'm like, and I'm like,you leave us here.
I know where you live. So so.
I would be down for that becauseto me, I, I'm interested in how
the people react to that. I remember like the, I think,

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and, and I've said this before, oddly enough, one of the coolest
moments I ever had with my son was when he called me.
I was just about to get on stage, as you know, because I
ended up, I was going to be, I was hosting, we end up at the
hookah lounge and we had to cancel.
It. Oh yeah, yeah.
Because my son called me just asI was about to get on stage at a

(02:10:45):
different comedy club. I was going to double dip and my
son called me literally before Igot on stage and said, mom, can
you come get me? I'm tripping balls on.
Shrooms. And honestly, I didn't know how
somebody on shrooms would react.I didn't know if they would go
violent. So I started calling friends

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that I knew who had experience and one of them said just keep
reminding them you do this to yourself you're fine.
And the other one said get in some slurpees and some string
cheese, that'll help. Yeah, most, most people on
mushrooms, they're just calm andthey're they're they're in their
heads, they're not they're not violent.
I've never seen a violent streamoutbreak DMTS, though.

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However, I've never seen a violent situation.
For the most part, it's just again, a lot of people trying to
find inner peace or whatever. But I mean, again, you're
talking to a guy who had a conversation with himself, but
God knows how long and you know,but you know, but what she told
me that not one either of me andmy friends situate, we were, we

(02:11:56):
were not violent. We were just calm and just, you
know, in our own heads. So I, yeah, when it comes to
like, I mean, I've seen crackheads go fucking ape shit.
Again, uppers, those uppers that, you know, they're, they're
just out of their fucking minds and they're speaking faster than
the words can come out of their mouths.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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But with, but with, but again, I've been on shrooms.
I've been on shrooms. And I'm not going to lie, from
when I do shrooms and I watch movies, I get rather emotional.
Like I am in the movie. I'm too involved.
I get very emotional, you know what I'm saying?
Because I'm watching a movie andI remember the the last time I

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did shrooms in this house. I watched 3 movies.
I watched Bowling for Columbine,I watched The Mosquito Coast
with Harrison Ford, and I watched Grudge Match with De
Niro and Stallone and oh. My.
God, I was like, yeah, you probably don't want to watch
Bowling for Columbine at the peak of your mushroom

(02:13:01):
hallucination because that shit,you feel like, you know, oh, my
God. Like it, it, it was such an
emotional. I was crying.
I can't believe I'm admitting the same people.
I, I you. Know what?
And then that only was like crying at the end of Bowling for

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Columbine, but I popped in the Mosquito Coast and that's also a
heartbreaking, gut wrenching movie.
And I cried even more like a fucking baby.
These were hard movies to watch even sober.
And I'm high as fuck and I am emotional watching these movies.

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Well, that grudge match, I was like something, something manly.
But yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was sad.
It was a sad, trippy moment. Yeah, I think that it tracks
that a man would have to take drugs to be able to cry.
Yeah, I'm just saying, you know.OK, so after cleanse.

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Cleanse yourself to get it out. After Bowling for Columbine, I,
I was OK. I was watching the mosquito,
Mosquito Coast. And halfway through the movie, I
had to pause it and I went in, Iwent to the bathroom and I took
off my clothes and I jumped in the shower and I curled up in a
fetal position and I just like took a little nap while like the

(02:14:28):
cool water was falling on me. And showers take very long when
you're on shrooms. That much I do remember because
I did not want to get out of theshower because I knew once I
did, I would have to continue watching the movie because I
don't like leaving things like hanging.
I'm like, I got to watch this movie.
I knew how the movie ended, but I was like, I got to watch this

(02:14:51):
movie. And then and, and, and I did.
And I remember I was laying downon the floor just like my, my,
just staring at the ceiling, watching this movie at the same
time. And I'm just like waiting for it
to end. I'm like, what am I going to
watch after this? What am I going to do after
this? And yeah, it was just, I

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remember I had ordered food before I did this so I didn't
have to cook because I would have burned my apartment down.
So I had ordered like, BBQ ribs and chicken from this barbecue
joint, and I was eating and I was crying and I was feeling
like shit. And I was, yeah.
It was just, you're not supposedto be crying eating chicken.

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You know what I'm saying? I was at that point, I'm
supposed to be at the happiest of my life.
I'm supposed to be like, I got food for some people in this
country that can't even, you know, do what I'm about to do.
I'm about, I'm living my best life, but on shrooms.
And it's like I and I'm just emotionally just and I suffer

(02:15:56):
from depression as it is. Shrooms did me no favors, you
know? I'm just eating chicken with so
much guilt and eating ribs with SO.
Much guilt. That's the I've never every time
I see ribs, I'm like, oh wow, let's do this.
I'm so happy. I am happier than a kid in a
candy store when I see ribs. That was the only time that I

(02:16:20):
saw food and I'm like, fuck life, you know, like just fuck
this. And I'm just you know, but yeah,
drugs are drugs are weird. I mean, it's but yeah, what I do
shrooms again, absolutely. What I do ayahuasca again.
I want to do that shit one more time just to make sure that it

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wasn't a fluke. I I told my Co workers about it
and they're just like, OK, now Iwant to do it.
And I'll be honest with you, oneof the main reasons I did this.
I'll tell you what inspired me to do this.
Before Aaron Rodgers signed withThe Jets 2 years ago, he went on

(02:17:02):
an ayahuasca retreat and he cameback signed with The Jets.
Probably not even the best decision he made.
He probably was on some bad ayahuasca anyway.
Signed on with The Jets, played by two minutes of football that
season, got injured and and I'm like, well, he comes off as kind

(02:17:24):
of prickly asshole ish. And I'm like, if it could and,
and I and I doubt it helped him because he's the same dude.
But it's just like, if I could as a, you know, for who I am, if
I can get a breakthrough and have a new vision, have a new
way of looking at things, maybe it wouldn't work for me.
So I did it because Aaron Rodgers did it.

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And I, I had a few friends that did it and they're just like,
yeah, it's awesome or whatever. And I could barely remember 36
hours out of the Memorial Day weekend.
So how do you? I'm sorry?
Is there a dosage you know you should take or is I mean how?
Do you know? So.

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The person that had brought it brewed it and did and did beat
up the doses. So I mean, yeah, I drank I would
say like 1/2 a cup. Like not, not not like I have a
big. I would say something like like.
This yeah, so. Maybe a little bit less next

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time to see if you can. Remember right well.
I I thought I drank the right amount.
I mean, I didn't want I'm not micro dosing.
I'm like, no, I don't want to dothat.
I wanted the full effect and I wanted to see how I came out of
it on the other end. And, you know, I, I don't know,
like I, I will say this, I do see things so fucking

(02:18:49):
differently now. I mean, even with the
conversations that we've had about, you know, whether it's
race, whether it's the conditionof our country and whatnot, I
kind of feel like, you know, I, I don't, I, I know sometimes,
you know, and I, I think like anadolescent because I feel like I
have the heart of a child. But, and, and, you know, my

(02:19:11):
rugged good looks, you know, my comedy keeps me young, whatever.
But I'm at a point now where it's like, you know, at some
point I have to have like, I, I,I got to make sure that at the
right time and having grown up conversations with people, you
know, at the right time, I got to, I cannot hold back my

(02:19:34):
feelings. I will say this, I have been
very angry in the past, you know, handful of days and it's
not even me. I'm not AI don't think of myself
as a very angry, much less violent person, but I do feel
that there's a change in me because I'm seeing things and

(02:19:55):
I'm like, and, and I'm asking questions like, how are we, how
are we OK with certain things? And I don't have the answer to
that because again, you know, I'm not, again, I'm not a, I'm
not a hateful person, if you know.
Why are we doing things to thesepeople?
Why are we not allowing people to live their best lives?

(02:20:17):
Why are we restricting people? And it's like whenever I don't
get an answer or the right answer, I shouldn't say the
right answer because there's never a right answer for it.
But if I don't get like, you know, there's some, there's,
there is a such thing as having a tough conversation.
And even if the answer is like, well, because you know, these

(02:20:39):
people, blah, blah, blah, based on biblical beliefs or whatever
beliefs or whatever. And it's just like, OK, now I, I
see where you're at, but it's like, there's conversations we
need to have. And then there's, you know, we
have to have to come to like a common, common, like meet at

(02:20:59):
common ground. I've met, you know, we've talked
about in the past about like allthese transgender people are
going into the wrong bathroom. I don't want my kid to see a
transgender dude. OK, this that, whatever.
Fine, OK, I get it. But at the same time, it's like,
OK, what if we gave them a bathroom of their own?

(02:21:19):
What say you then? You know, no, what if we gave
what if we we wore we just say, hey, I've been to bars where
it's like, oh, this is not a men's room.
This is not a it's all gender bathroom.
Yeah, Jay-Z Club in New York. Nope.
We, we, we have that. So.
Jay-Z Club. Oh, there's, there's also other

(02:21:42):
places that I, that I've, that I've been to that that has
stalls. You just walk in, you walk out,
you're washing your hands with the dude or the woman next to
you that was at another stall, you know, and, and The funny
thing about it is. In those stalls.
In each of each of those stalls there's like a like a feminine
napkin thing or whatever. So any but if that's the case, a

(02:22:05):
woman needs to use it. You don't have to be a dude and
be like, oh, I mean the woman. No, it's like it's optional.
You don't have. To fucking all genders.
So, so it's just like when people say negative things
about, you know, people of different sexual lifestyles or
orientation, that's like, dude, do their existence really bother

(02:22:31):
you that much? Just.
It doesn't have any impact on your life in what in in
whatsoever in any way, shape or form.
Does it actually have any directimpact or you just outraged
because you need something to beoutraged about?
The best answer you can give me for any of these questions Why

(02:22:51):
do Why do minorities bother you?Why do transgender people bother
you? Why?
The best answer you can give me and I will respect you more for
answering it. Just say it.
I'm a racist. I do not like black people.
OK? My father didn't like black
people. My father, his father before him

(02:23:12):
owned black people. I don't like black.
Just fucking say it. Don't make don't pussyfoot
around the issue. Just hey, I don't like I do not
like transgender people because I'm a bigot.
It should be boys, girls, men, women, and the discussion.
Just fucking say it. That's all you have to do.

(02:23:35):
I promise you I will respect youmore for just coming out and
just saying it. Just fucking say it.
Your president has practically called, has practically done it
himself. He may not come out and say it,
but he will show you who he truly is.
Oh yeah, and. Sometimes.
And, and sometimes when I have these conversations with people,

(02:23:57):
it's not what they say, but rather what they don't say.
Exactly. Just fucking if you're a racist
listening to this, I don't give a fuck if you go to the to the
Facebook not about you podcast Facebook page and you just say,
hey, I just heard your last podcast and you know what,
you're right. I am a racist.

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I and, and you know what, even if you want to give me a reason,
give me a reason. If a black person beat you up
when you were in middle school and that gave you a reason, I, I
would like to know. Tell me why do you hate
minorities? And, and, and, and again, don't
say, well, it's because they're bringing in fat.
No, no, no, that's not the reason.
That's bullshit. That's something, that's some,
that's something that somebody told you and you believe that Oh

(02:24:43):
yeah, they're the ones bringing in the fat.
No, you don't hate Mexicans because of that.
That's not. Even then, even then, hold on.
Even if they could say it's it'sthey're bringing in the
fentanyl, then here's the next question really, have you or
anybody in your family used fentanyl?
See most. Races mostly no, no.

(02:25:04):
And on top of that, somebody's motherfuckers can't even spell
fentanyl. So why the fuck are you using
words you can't even use or spell?
But again, it's and I tell people straight up, I'm just
going to tell you something. You're afraid to just tell me
you voted for this president because you were afraid of the

(02:25:25):
black woman? Bottom line.
Oh, now? The response that I get is
you're making it about race, andI'll backtrack to what I said
just now about an hour ago. When it comes to black people,
when it comes to minorities, it is about race.
Oh, you didn't like the way she laughs?

(02:25:46):
Well, look where we're at now. Look where we're at now.
Those things you did not like. And again, it's the bottom line.
She was a black woman and that scared the fuck.
That probably scared you more than it scared more than you
were afraid of the fentanyl outbreak.
Oh well. And The thing is that it women

(02:26:09):
will not support each other, butGod forbid white women would
ever support black women. That's, that's not happening,
not happening. And I, I will tell you that a
woman's lot in life is hard, butI will honestly say, I don't
think that there's any minority female that has it harder than a

(02:26:31):
black woman. I just, I don't think that there
is any minority. We have echoed that on this
podcast for months and years. We've.
Echoed that. Yeah, so so so again, you were
afraid of the black woman? Yeah, and again.
And all I and all that I asked is tell me that.

(02:26:54):
Just say hey hey. Well, you thought.
Hillary had it bad. Shit.
She's a white woman. She's a white woman and.
And The thing is, is that they say that with women.
Well, we're not going to have a female president because they're
so emotional. I'm sorry, have you seen our
baby throw a tantrum? Have you seen our baby president

(02:27:14):
throw an absolute fucking tantrum?
Like, Oh my God, we, you know, we didn't even talk about his
parade. OK, before we got we got to talk
about this parade. OK, I got.
To talk about this parade. Well, I mean, here's the thing,
this much that I know about the parade was a lot of the items

(02:27:37):
that were used for the parade, like the tanks and whatnot, were
outdated. Oh yeah, you know, it rained.
Yes, and it was very humid and and hot.
They they they stood behind bulletproof glass, which is not
even a the the down the downside.
And a lot of people, at least inWashington, DC, had scattered

(02:27:58):
and went elsewhere for the most.Part but in No Kings rallies.
Yeah. So.
We had the No Kings rally here in New York and it's funny how
they tell us that Democrats are violent people because we are

(02:28:21):
rally was peaceful. I took a picture actually, which
I was thinking about displaying today, but I didn't want to do
it yet. But and I walked past this every
day when I go to Prospect Park to catch a train and somebody
and it was fresh. It's recent.
It somebody spray painted no Kings on a part of a building

(02:28:44):
and I'm pretty sure the cops sawthis.
I'm pretty sure everybody saw this and it's hasn't been
painted over. I took a picture of it because I
thought it was cool and we did not have an incident.
I know Salt Lake City, UT there was a shooting at one of them.
I think that was like the only from what I understand, major

(02:29:08):
incident, but it's like if you really think about it, if you
really think about it, it was itwas rather peaceful.
We didn't destroy our property, you know, we didn't we It was a
peaceful. Protest and yeah, all of
Washington was quite peaceful also.
Yeah, and and I read in the in as a, as a, as a had in the

(02:29:30):
outline. What I did was if you guys
noticed the states like I, I gave you guys your outline of.
How? Where your numbers, where you
guys were at as far as where it was held at and if there was any
incidences and from the most part, Seattle didn't have any in
Washington state actually did not have any incidences.

(02:29:53):
Philadelphia did not have any incidences that I recall as I
was like looking through the letme see here.
I'm actually going back into my outline myself.
So New York, we OK, Bryant Park,which is a park near Times
Square. We had a gathering there.
It was a demonstration that estimated 50 to 200,000 people.

(02:30:17):
That makes sense because that's where we a block away from that
park. That's where we dropped the ball
in Times Square, Madison, Madison and they went from Times
Square. They marched down to Madison
Square Park and 5th Ave. which is near NYU to college there.
Let me see, estimated crowd protested at Niagara Square in

(02:30:41):
Buffalo 2000. OK, Rochester.
They had some demonstrations there.
So for the most part, no incidences.
Seattle. You guys had 70,000 protesters
marched through Capitol Hill anddowntown?
Yeah. But what we we were actually.
So we drove to Squim that day. We didn't know about the the
protest. Yeah.

(02:31:02):
And so we drove to Squim and I will tell you that.
Olympia. There was so many protesters
that we saw on the way. We actually stopped.
We had breakfast in Paul's Port Orchard and there was a huge
group of protesters out on the road and.

(02:31:23):
It was like all the brown. It was on.
Wait. Rules were they?
Were they? Were they blocking the road?
No, they were standing on the sidewalks and like, even like we
saw even at Fat Smitty's IT, which is in the middle of
nowhere, there was people holding signs.
There were people. Yeah, it was crazy.

(02:31:45):
On the main streets we were seeing people, even if there
were only three or four people standing there with their signs,
they were Snow Kings and they were standing there on the
highway. It was astonishing how many
people we saw in so many different areas.
Yeah, like Brooklyn, where I live, it was rather quiet

(02:32:08):
because it was everybody went toManhattan.
You know, that's where they usually hold all of it.
But there was some places where people were showing their debt,
like showing their disgust, demonstrating.
But again, this protest was meant to be peaceful.

(02:32:30):
Now, here's the thing. I have yet to hear people from
the other side say anything as far as, again, being that it was
peaceful. You know, they're just all of
these people just, you know, walking around marching because
they're, they're, they're they're mad at, you know, the

(02:32:50):
present. Well, yes, we did it, but it was
done in a peaceful matter. You know, we didn't destroy our
city. Our I mean, I was just, I was
just in Manhattan today and I was like, oh, this, I mean, it
still looks shitty, like, like we love it, but no destruction,
you know, no, no violence, nobody, you know, none of that

(02:33:11):
shit because you know that the very opposite of Jan 6, very
opposite of that. Oh yeah, you know, so.
But again, whenever you know, I talk and again and again I
talked to him. I, I don't like arguing
politics, to be honest with you,but I kind of feel like I, I ask

(02:33:31):
questions. I don't even argue.
I ask questions. I would.
And again, it I don't, I don't make shit up.
Hey, Trump said on this and I know, you know he said this
because you claim you are Trump supporter.
So everything that comes out of his mouth, every lie that comes
out of his mouth, you believe how?
And I would ask, how did you feel when he said this and this

(02:33:54):
didn't happen? Well, when Biden or hold on,
didn't ask about Biden, we're asking about the current
administration. Hey, look, you guys won.
You guys got the man you wanted in the White House.
OK, So we're not, I'm not mad atthat.
But all that I ask is make it make sense.

(02:34:15):
Well, he he, he has done what hesaid he was going to do.
He tightened the borders and he's getting rid of illegal.
Those are the only two things 2 answers that I get.
That's what he campaigned on. OK, you're a woman.
How do you feel about having your uterus all in the legal?

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System. Oh well.
I don't he, Trump is not about that.
He's not doing that really. What about OK, he's going to
keep us out of wars. Really.
We got 2 that's about to happen.We got 2 going on right now and
he's going to send your kids, your kids to die in a war

(02:34:58):
that's, I don't want to say meaningless, but he said he
could end one of these wars. How Well you know, it's not his
fault. Well, he said it.
He campaigned on it. He told that shit to Kamala
Harris's faith. And on top of that, his
speeches. Let me tell you something.

(02:35:19):
On the way to the on the way to work today, I listened to an
Obama speech. And I'm not going to lie, I was
like, we need that kind of leadership.
Back. Agreed.
That. Type of.
Hope. That we and again, whether you

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like Obama or not, he's probablyone of the most much better
recent presidents we've had. Because if you think second term
Trump is your, your, your, your,your head is in the sand.
You're not paying attention. But you're saying I don't Oh,
you're, you're watching, you know that you must be watching
CNN and MSNBC. You're you're watching a

(02:36:02):
propaganda media. And I'm, I'm like, well, where
are you getting your informationfrom?
Newsmax. What, what's a Newsmax?
You're not when you tell me that.
And I've echoed this again as well.
What you're telling me is you only follow the media that fits
your narrow minded yeah rhetoric?

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Yes, yeah, that's what. You will follow.
OK. And that and that and that's OK.
I'm going to, I'm going to change directions here only
because we're way past time, which is fine.
I mean we have a tendency to do that, that's fine.
When would it kind of like take it to a point where we can leave

(02:36:49):
on a an upper note? OK, yeah, I'm down 10 pants
sizes. Oh, OK, you can break.
Go ahead and break. I'm down 10 pants size.
I'm so excited. Oh, congratulations.
So yeah, OK, he was. So here's here's The funny

(02:37:11):
thing. We went shopping yesterday
because I told him he needed some new jeans because his jeans
have been falling off of him. And I found guys 38.
I found two pair at the store. That was it Literally at the
Burlington there was only two pair of them.
And I said here, try this on, man, those are good fit me, I'm

(02:37:34):
not going to fit. And I said, you know what?
How about you humor me and try these on.
And I said, in fact, I want you to try these other pair on too.
He's like, oh, they're not goingto fit.
And I said, look, how about we just get a baseline so that we
can understand, you know, if they're two to small, then we
can go ahead and go in next sides up.

(02:37:57):
And then I give him the pants and I go looking for towels and
he starts bellowing for me across the store like you do.
Well, I just couldn't believe Marianne.
I just Marianne, well, in my, inmy defense, I didn't think they
were going to fit. I mean, I wear right now, I got

(02:38:21):
40 twos and those, my skinny jeans and but I'm, you know, my,
they've fallen off me now. And so and, and that's all I
used to wear. I, I used to wear and then I
went down to 40 eights. I'm all the way down to 30
eights and I cannot believe thatI went down over.

(02:38:43):
I went down 12 pants. Sizes.
Yeah, he's lost. Over 100 lbs.
He's lost over 100 lbs since I've met him.
So that's that's a lot and. So congratulations.
Yeah. Well, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
And I told him, you know, we're trying to recover his old

(02:39:03):
Facebook page. And so he ended up having to do
a new face. He did a temporary Facebook, as
you know, he, he, he opened up anew Facebook because he has to
be able to use messenger. That's how he's able to
communicate with his son and his, his son will call him on
Facebook. And so he took a new picture.

(02:39:24):
He kept like hamming and Hon. And when we were on our cruise
in Mexico, he kept taking selfies and all this other
stuff. And so he finally posted a good
picture of him. Well, when I go to send him a
message, it, it gives me the theold photo and the new photo.
And I went, holy crap. You see how much weight you've

(02:39:48):
lost by looking at your face like it's, it's, it's night and
day different. So yeah, I, you can break on
that. I'm sorry.
Yeah, feeling good, Feeling good.
I'm a bit dinner and getting thinner still.
Yeah, still lose weight. Not a lot, but you know.

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Well, you know, it's it's. The.
It's what counts, you know, Every little bit counts.
It does help. So it's been, you know, I told
him love looks good on him, being in a good permanent
relationship looks good on him. And then of course you know his
what he always says is about losing 100 lbs.

(02:40:33):
Oh, that you can't cook damn well in that.
In that fact, you know, I'm justkidding, babe.
You can cook. Jamal can actually attest to the
fact that I'm a very good cook. You just have bad taste.
I can and you do. Oh yeah, I don't think.

(02:40:55):
Oh damn well. All right.
Yeah, I am a very good cook. Yeah, you got, you got ganged up
one on that 1R. Yeah, our taste buds outweigh
yours. So.
So let's let's talk about. What we've been binge watching.
Binge watching, absolutely. Full bar.
Oh yeah, did you see the first bar?

(02:41:18):
Did you see the first season of Full Bar with Arnold
Schwarzenegger? No, I have seen it on, I mean, I
know it's on what, Netflix I think.
Well, this is Season 2. OK, I have not seen.
That with Season 2, Season 1 wasreally good.
It was funny. It also has what's that?
The lesbian comedian? Oh.
Yeah. All of them.

(02:41:42):
Huh. Wait, you said she's blonde?
Yeah, curly hair, blonde hair. She's kind of thick.
Oh. I a.
Potato sack She She has no body shape and so she she was
actually she became quite popular.

(02:42:04):
I think what was she? She must have been on like Blast
Comic standing or something, butshe got really kind of popular
recently and. I might know who you were
talking about, I just don't knowthe name.
Is she short hair? Yes.
I think I might know who you said she's a is she like skinny

(02:42:26):
or? Like.
No, she's built like a potato. Sack.
Oh, never mind. She's that's the one, I think.
Fortune. Her name's Fortune.
Oh, fortune Fenster. Yes.
I know her, yeah. I know her, yeah.
She's actually she. She.
Plays like kind of a minor a minor role in with Arnold

(02:42:47):
Schwarzenegger, who, by the way,we all agree has not aged well
at all. That is true.
And we watched, we watched Commando last night and we were
like, wow. Yeah, wow.
That was like he was built like a God.
Yes, yes, Monica Barbae Barbaeo Burrell, isn't it?

(02:43:15):
And Travis Van Winkle. Yeah, but it's the first.
First season was really good. Second season is yeah, Yeah.
I don't think it has quite the same appeal.

(02:43:36):
And then what else do we, what else do we watch?
We finished watching forever. Same thing.
Kind of like the ending was. Yeah.
And then? So we haven't watched
adolescence yet, but that's what's next.
Yeah, that's on our list of things, adolescence and.

(02:43:58):
Yes. Department Q Oh, so if you
haven't seen Animal Kingdom, Animal Kingdom was a mate I've
watched before. I've I've seen it before.
And I'm going to I've got I got to make very air watch shoes.
I thought it was great. Oh, what was the other one we

(02:44:18):
started watching? It was a like a, it was not a
National Geographic, but underdog underdogs.
It's a it's kind of like a National Geographic and it's.
Ryan Reynolds is the. Yeah, so.
But underdog? And it's on.
It's on Hulu. Hulu, and it's actually pretty
good. And it's just it's, it's, it's a
nature thing. But Ryan Reynolds is the is the

(02:44:42):
narrator. And they talk about pretty much
the falling for dogs, like thoseanimals that are really.
Weird, yeah, but they don't get all the accolades like lions
and, you know, majestic animals.These are the, the weird ones.
They even talked about the manatee.
And some of the things that theytalk about is what makes them

(02:45:04):
underdogs. Like, you know, the manatees,
when they, they fart a lot. They yeah, they're very fart.
They have to fart because otherwise, right, they float.
They float and they could they could die if they don't fart and
you'd be able to sink down back to the floor to.
Get the grass to eat. Yeah, they.
Got buoyancy? Buoyancy purposes.

(02:45:24):
Yeah. Yeah.
So yeah, just, you know, not to give it all away, but it was
kind of interesting. Like some of the things that
they showed were really interesting.
They're they were talking about like even some of the different
larvas and bugs. But it, it was, I mean, it's,
it's interesting and, and I'm looking forward to watching some
more of that because we love watching stuff like that.

(02:45:46):
Yeah. Yeah.
So what? What about you?
What are you watching? I had finished season 1 of this
show. I believe it's a Scandinavian
show called The Arm Murderers. It's basically it's about, there

(02:46:06):
was a, it's about this investigator investigating like
this murder of a, of a child. And it's, it's pretty, it's
pretty good. I think it was like 6 episodes
and I just finished it last night.
Yeah, I've been watching a lot of like foreign crime shows.

(02:46:27):
There is a show that I'm watching that.
Oh. Boy, this is it's a it's a very,
very hard watch. It's a show on HBO Max called
Toxic. And it is about people, well,
women who are in these abusive marriages to and they're some of

(02:46:52):
them are being recollected from the women.
It's themselves. I know one episode was recalled
by a sister and a mother who hadlost their daughter to a drug
overdose that was caused by her husband who wasn't drugging her

(02:47:12):
food. It's a very, very hot.
It's like being in a, in a, likean, a, a meeting and listening
to these relationships. And I'm not going to lie,
watching this show made me lose faith in being in a relationship
because it all starts out like, it's funny.

(02:47:35):
All these relationships have like, the one thing in common.
These men would move in with these women two months after
they meet. And I'm like, well, there's your
fucking problem. They would move.
Oh, yeah. Three months after they met,
they got married and they moved in together.
And that's when shit just goes downhill.

(02:47:58):
One when I remember there was one story and this kind of made
me sick, a girl recalled. A wife recalled waking up to
find her husband on top of her having sex with her while she
was asleep. And she was like.

(02:48:19):
Did you just? Rape me while I was asleep.
Because oh, by the way, for those of you who did not know,
you can still rape your wife even if you're married.
It's still considered rape. So.
That shit doesn't fly. You know that whole, but we're
married. I could do whatever I want.
That shit doesn't fly. Now insult assaulting a woman,

(02:48:42):
Whether you're married or not, it's still assault.
So there was that a lot of theseweird things these men do and
I'm just like mad. If anything, I thank God I am
nothing like these men. So it's called toxic.
It's on HBO Max I think right now there are 6 episodes out.
I think they're doing more or I'm probably just not caught up

(02:49:04):
yet, but I know I thought those six episodes are brutal.
But it's a teaching. It's AI won't say teachable
moment, but you can learn from it.
Another show that I'm watching is this Japanese anime called
Sakamoto Days. Oh, I've been watching it with

(02:49:25):
you. I'm watching it also.
Yeah, I, it's such a it's it's great.
It's about a hit man who retires, has a family and.
Opens up a restaurant. It opens up like a a bodega and
guys are still coming after him.You know, it's, it's such a,

(02:49:47):
it's, it's, it's, it's such a fun show.
I, I'm glad I stumbled on it because I was like, I feel like
watching the Japanese anime and I was like going through them
all on. I was like Netflix.
It's like, I'm not a I'm not a fucking Japanese girl that could
watch half this shit. But I came across the Sakamoto
days and I read the premise and I'm like, Oh, you hadn't yet.

(02:50:10):
Hitman and I just, you know, played it.
Yeah, he's a bad ass. He's all fucking I like him and
the Clair and and Shin the clairvoyant kid.
He's he's my he's my favorite character in that I like him the
best, but I'm on I think I'm on.Oh, I'm on episode 7.

(02:50:32):
The Jurassic episode wasn't donein the lab, so.
I'm on I'm on Harmony on episode5 I think.
Oh, but you're going to, I, I think the more that I watch it,
the more episode that I get into, the more I'm just like, Oh
yeah, like when I'm done with this, I'm going to watch maybe a

(02:50:54):
couple more episodes, maybe attempt the third one before
passing out. But it's a good show I really
enjoy. It is.
It is I like. It and the oh, oh Devil May Cry
I, I watch, I. Watch solid album too.
That was Devil May cry that. Was all right.
I hope they it was. Alright, I hope they do come up

(02:51:18):
with a second season on that. Devil May Cry was definitely a
fun watch. Let me see.
Yeah, I think those are the I, Ifind myself now watching more,
like watching more shows now because it's like, you know, and
I'm trying to explore more like,thank goodness some of these

(02:51:42):
shows, they're dubbed in English.
So it's like, you know, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
it's been to watch. I kind of feel like I'm
traveling out of the country andI'm just landing here.
And I'm just trying to do something that I can't do.
OK, so I've got those translating earbuds.

(02:52:06):
I want to be able to watch Japanese anime and wear my
translating earbuds. And watching in real.
Time you know, you know the the lack.
Some of I know like with Tubi, for the most part, I've been
watching like some Tony Jaa movies, some Kung Fu movies.

(02:52:29):
Most of those movies they come dubbed in English.
OK, I, I, I think they may do that with, I don't know if
there's a lot of Japanese anime on Tubi, but I know when you go
on Netflix, you could adjust thelanguage and you could adjust
the subtitles for the most. Part to a lot of them, not all.

(02:52:52):
Of them like, like case in point, I watched the Passion of
the Christ two nights ago. No, on Sunday actually, I
watched The Passion of the Christ for the first time.
Oh my God. Yeah, I did not know that that
movie was in Arabic. So I was and it's like 2 1/2

(02:53:13):
hours so. But the.
It's an English. Version.
I watch it in the English version.
Netflix only has the Arabic version.
Really. Yeah, I.
Don't. I watched it, and I watched it
in the English version, and Passionate of Christ is a snuff
pill. Yeah, it it, it.

(02:53:36):
Is it's very brutal. I mean, it's very I, I, I give
props to Mel Gibson for the way he directed it.
Because I watched, because here's what I did.
I did all I did Braveheart then Passion of the Christ within 24
hours of each other, Braveheart 3 hour movie, Passion 2 and a 2

(02:54:01):
1/2 hours Passion of the Christ.It felt like a six hour long
movie because then I watch it onNetflix in Arabic.
So I had the subtitles on and itwas very graphic.
It is, you know, it is very, it was I.
Watch it once, I could never watch it again.

(02:54:24):
I watched it well. That's why that's why I watched
it because I wanted, I mean, again, this movie came out long
time ago. I wanted to see what the
fascination of this movie was. And, and again, it was just, and
it seemed like, I mean, it was very brutal, you know, for one
man to go through what I had just been.

(02:54:46):
And as I'm watching this, I'm just like, OK.
And I had so many questions, just a lot of philosophical
questions, a lot of religion. You know, I watched that movie
and all I could take away is maybe I'm not as religious as I
care to be after watching this movie.

(02:55:07):
I'm like, I didn't, I didn't take away anything.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. I was just like, OK, it it this
is what happened in the Bible, right?
This is how Mel Gibson again. It's not a terrible movie.
No, it's really. Not but it's just like what was
and I get Mel Gibson is trying to tell a story based on the

(02:55:29):
Bible. I did not get anything going in
the same way. I coming out, I'm like, I am.
I am not changed by this movie. As an adult, I am not.
I get what he was trying to do, but internally I'm like OK.

(02:55:50):
But you just, you just heard thestory that you already knew of.
This is a this is a story that Igrew up listening that that I
grew up. I'm sorry.
Let me let me rephrase this. This is a story that was spoon
fed violently to me from the moment I, you know, was a child
even to now. And I'm like, what makes this

(02:56:14):
story any different? It was just my somebody from
somebody from any other religious story, whether it's
like Bahamas or, or what have you.
So it was just like, I'm like, OK, I saw it.
I came, I saw I don't even need the T-shirt.

(02:56:36):
I just, I was more apathetic when the credits rolled.
I was just like, I did, I care. I couldn't have cared any less
about Catholicism, baptism, justreligion in general.
I just wanted, I just wanted to kind of see what the, what the
hoopla was all about. And again, I'm not saying that

(02:56:57):
it's it didn't happen, but it's like we still have people
walking around thinking that they're the son of God and this
and that. And I'm just like, religion is a
little, it's a little too much for me to even want to deal with
as an adult. So I'm just like, I'm going to
live my life the best way I can leave.

(02:57:17):
Live life being a by, live, liveby.
An example of just being a person.
We are a lot, we are a lot. We are a light.
We are so alike in so many ways that way.
Because I I'm not going to say I'm not religious, but I don't

(02:57:41):
go to church. I don't either.
I don't. I, I can't, I don't believe
that. I don't believe that the people
in the church have my best interests in mind.
Organized religion. Organized religion.
Yeah, organized religion. I am not.
I'm not for. Organized religion?
Yeah, it was not for me. My my my biggest question and

(02:58:05):
again, there was some stories like again, this was the story
was basically from the time he got captured all the way to the
crucifix itself. So forget the fact that he was
healing people. This, that, whatever, Mike, the
only question that I came out was why don't we, we hear about

(02:58:26):
all these miracles, these biblical miracles, like where
are they in today's time? Why don't we see things like
that? I mean, we, we say things like,
oh, the miracle on the Hudson where Sally Sullenberg, you
know, landed a plane in the Hudson, that that's a miracle.
I'm like, Oh yeah. But he also had the wherewithal
to land there and and be smart about it.

(02:58:48):
You know what I'm saying? Where are the biblical signs
that. Where is that?
There is that one guy who who was dead in in the morgue and he
got up and walked away after. That I think that is where we
end because it's about 3 hours that is, that is.
Perfect. Right there, that's where we
end. Ladies and gentlemen, wild out.

(02:59:10):
Good. That's why we have a third host.
Ladies and gentlemen, that has been our show.
Thank you for listening. I know you guys disagree with a
lot of things I said. Please send me your hate mail.
You guys have my Facebook. I will.
I will read it and I will. I can't promise you I'll answer,
but you know what? Whatever.
If you really, really, really strongly have an issue with what

(02:59:34):
I had, what we all talked about today, please know it is not
about you. And we're signing off here,
baby. OK, let's.
See.