#53 - Greatest Movie Villians - Andrew Durrant

The hosts of "Not About You" podcast discussed their show's progress and upcoming guests while introducing their episode guest Andrew Durrant. The conversation covered various topics including the podcast's unique focus on humorous and unconventional content, with the hosts engaging in discussions about sexual preferences and hypothetical scenarios involving bestiality. The group also analyzed a list of greatest movie villains, shared their preferences for classic films and remakes, and discussed their recent viewing habits of TV shows and movies before concluding with an interview about Andrew's podcast activities.

Episode Transcript

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Being that close to you, keep touching me.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome toanother exciting edition of Not
About You podcast. Believe it or not, Episode 53
Wow, 53 episodes. We appreciate.
Well. That's this year.

(00:21):
That's Nikki. 3 total. It's actually not total.
It's actually more than that. I think it's way more than that
actually. But since since we've rebranded
and. We've made some.
Changes it has been 53 episodes I would like to say think since
the year before last June ish Ohyeah it's about 53 and then we

(00:46):
took a we took a bit of a hiatusand then you know we we came
back again but yeah 5353 good episodes.
I've actually been scrolling through some of these episodes,
looking back at the guests we'vehad and boy, it's great.
And then we have a lot of guests.
I mean that I we have planned for in January and February.

(01:11):
So I've been actually hitting the ground running.
As a matter of fact, I'll I'll even won't keep you guys before
I even go on Marianne, my Co host, Romeo, my other Co host.
So as usual on this on this phone and myself.
So I know you had mentioned before Amos Mack, we're going to

(01:35):
have Amos Mack in January. We're going to have Jeremy Horn
again. We're going to have Jessica
Vargas, actually Jeremy Horn andand Vargas on the same show you
guys remember via Mansfield. Yes.
Yes, we're going to have her. We're going to have her in
February. Can't wait to have her.

(01:55):
She's got she's, you know, very funny comedian and I looking
forward to her and then a bunch of other guests that I'm waiting
for them to respond to the emails, but usually they do.
So I'm really looking. Forward.
To the the first half, well, thenext year, couple months into

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the into the year, you know, we're getting people that that I
that we respect, I'm sure and that are very intuitive.
So that's that's something that I'm looking forward to.
So yeah, we're going to, we're going to have some great.
Shows. Jamal, where can where all can
people find us if they because Ihad that's the one question I

(02:43):
get asked all the time. Where do I find you?
Are you guys on? Excellent.
You could, you could people could find us on, I mean, we're
on iHeartRadio, we're on Spotify, we're on, we are on

(03:06):
Apple, Apple podcast. I mean, when, whenever I post up
the episodes, especially on Facebook and tag you guys in the
hashtags, you will see all the platforms that we're on and
we're on a lot of platforms. You, you'll see what I'm talking
about later. And also what I've started doing

(03:27):
is I rather than spanking, you know, I always do the whole
thank you so and so for being onthis podcast, blah, blah, blah.
I just put the synopsis on the podcast in the post so people
can have an idea what to expect,who's on the show, what the name
of the episode is and you know, it's and then of course, what

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platforms you can find us on. I, I, I looked through the
numbers and people, strange enough have been listening the
guests that we've had, they havebeen sharing it on their
platforms, posting it up. And of course, the numbers kind
of go up. I have people again ask me the

(04:13):
same thing. They just, you know, hey, where
can I find you? Tell me about your podcast.
And when people ask me to explain the podcast to them, I
never know how to, to do it. I mean, it's just, I don't know
if it's because, you know, it's not that I'm nervous about it or

(04:37):
anything. I I'm just like, well, I mean,
we talked about anything and then to.
To to the. Person who asks, it's like, what
is anything? I'm like anything like whatever
you usually whatever you want totalk about or whatever.
Guests. Oh yeah, I love that.
I love that, you know, like I like having such diverse guests
that we get to have, we get to have conversations with people

(05:01):
that maybe our listeners wouldn't talk to in their normal
walk of life. Or, you know, we get to talk to
people and and we get to, you know, it's not like we're asking
canned questions, the same kind of questions.
We're asking questions that we actually want to know.

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And we just all of a sudden, Jamal, you look different.
I don't know. Hello everybody my name is.
How you got our guest? How are you doing, Drew?
Let's. Reiterate.
Yourself. I'm Romeo.
I'm Mary Ann. I'm hitting that.

(05:45):
Hi. Ryan, my name is Andrew.
Hey once again. Hello everybody.
Nice to meet y'all. So how did you?
So it's your, your name says Drew.
But you said Andrew. What do you go by, Drew?
Yeah, go by Drew. Yeah.
Drew, how did Jamal rope you into coming and talking to us?

(06:06):
Spending time with him at work, He just, he just asked me.
He just asked me. I have free day.
So we we're cool. So yeah, I'll be happy to do his
part so. He was persistent.
He kept bugging you so we neededsome cool.
Factory. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, He was persistent. He did bug me, so yeah.

(06:27):
That's usually how it gets everybody right.
Oh yeah, I have that. I see that.
Effect on people. I have that effect on people.
So we were just kind of jumping in and talking about, well,
first of all, welcome, thank you.
And we were just kind of reviewing some of the places
that the listeners can find us. And then also what is our

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podcast about? The number one question that we
get? Well, what is your podcast
about? And basically, it's not about
you. That's what it is.
It's not about you. No, it's it's about.
I think a lot of people, a lot of people really dig the name.
They're just like, what if it's not about me?

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Like, what is it? And The thing is like what I
would explain to somebody because I remember I was talking
to this one girl while while I was in dressed in costume,
Halloween in Times Square. You know, I told her I do a
podcast and she asked me what itwas about, what it was called.
She wanted, she was very interested in hearing listening

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to it, but she wanted me to explain.
And I was like, well, I mean, it's called it's not about you.
And she like was like, Oh my God, I love that name.
I love that name. And I'm just like, when I'm
like, OK, when I told you that, what do you think our podcast
mean? And and it was and it and it was
kind of strange enough. She was like, let me guess,

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it's, it's, I mean, you're a comedian.
You're probably offensive to people who are listening and,
you know, like it's about you onstage and not about them in the
audience. And I was like, OK, I, I, I
guess that's kind of close. I, I we're not.

(08:15):
Really offensive. I well look if we do.
Say things that are kind of offense I mean we're.
Totally offensive, but if you'relistening to us, then you're
obviously not offended by it, right?
Yeah, I mean, when people like, send the emails about the show,
you know, whenever I read it, they say specific things about

(08:39):
what they like. And I know they're listening
because these are things we've talked about before.
You know, when you guys, you know, I, I had somebody send me
an e-mail, got it was a long time ago.
And I put it in like, like AI have like a folder that I keep
in the not about you e-mail. And, and, and, and he, he was

(09:01):
talking about the we were talking about.
I can't. I remember we were talking about
a list of things that proctologists pulled out of.
People's asses and and I remember.
I remember that episode because I had a link on my computer and
I'm reading. It.
And yeah, I'm and there's pictures of like the X-rays of

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just things that, you know, these doctors, these, these.
College. That profess you know, I mean
and the things that they I mean from die cast cars to broken
bottles to like. Pool.
Like pool balls and, and the guywas like, yeah, when when you

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was reading that out, I couldn'thelp but laugh because in his
mind he's like, yes, there are that many.
Stupid people in the world. That would jam shit up their
asses. And it's just like, why?
Like why? You know what I'm saying?
I mean. Why does anybody do anything?
For sexual gratification, of course, right?

(10:10):
That's the only. Reason why they're doing No, no,
that that is definitely true. That is that.
I mean, what else would somebodyshove something in their ass if
it's not for sexual gratification?
Right. I've heard of of, of women doing
it to stretch their rectum so that they could be prepared for
anal. Wow.
Yeah. Really.

(10:31):
Yeah. They were told to start with
golf balls. With golf.
Balls. Yeah, Well, well, I've seen the
anal bead thing, you know, and, and I've actually, but I've
actually worked in the, I've worked at sex toy in the sex
toy. Industry.
And they would have, they had the, they had the anal plugs,

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but they asked, they had them, they had the beads.
And they start out small and they got bigger and bigger and
bigger now. OK, so, so now I get you working
your way. Actually, you know, here's a
little visual aid. Look something like that.

(11:14):
Jesus Christ, Oh my God, you seewhat I'm saying?
And you? Know.
Put that away. Yeah, that is mine.
It's for my phone. You're going to like.
The tripod, it's like a it's. It's like a multi sized you

(11:35):
would like to take. That you would start, but it
looks something. Like say but.
But it looks something like that.
You would like to. Think that they would start big
and then get smaller as it goes in just for you know, or maybe.
Way around. But it starts, yeah, it starts
out small. It starts out small and it gets
bigger and bigger and bigger as you insert.

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But wow, you know, we used to have this, we used to have this
thing called the Great American.Now the Great American was, was
the size of a of a lamp. And, and I was a lamp.
It was a lamp. It was a it was the size of a
large lava lamp. Well, a very large lava lamp.

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And I thought to. Myself.
If you want to kill yourself, goup, go, go, go to the Great
American, because the Great American was at least.
The side bigger than your thigh.Oh yes, bigger than my thigh,
way bigger than my thigh. And I was thinking to myself,
who in the in their right mind would do something like this?

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But you know. Somebody who's excited by I'm
going to put my boot in your ass.
They'd be like. Please see but there's a lot of
size Queens out there. Also who who like shit Like like
really huge objects to insert so.
Welcome to our show, Drew. Yeah, he's jumped right in

(13:05):
there, right about that. Then, but you know it best
stuff. It's it's a true that's a true
thing that happens, though. I mean, you get size Queens and
they they gotta have it big and.They have some daddy issues.
Well, they got some serious issues.
They got some serious, serious issues.
See, I I'm, I'm a man that likesto watch a lot of weird porn

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shit, you know, I do. And so I've seen some things
where I was just like, damn, I can't Unsee that.
Yeah, you know, like, and there's a lot of things you did,
that's what. You deserve if you watch a lot
of different crazy. People hold on a second though,
but if you're if you're questioning what you're
watching, that's a you problem. That's that's you typing.

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No, I wasn't questioning. Eventually.
You typing in the wrong shit in your search history, yeah.
You're. Going.
To find out some shit you don't want to see it.
You're like, it wasn't that I didn't want to see it, I just, I
didn't believe it was going to actually happen.
You know? I'm like damn 'cause.
You that naive? You watch so much porn over your
life. You're not that.
Naive. That's what's going.

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To happen. You you know what?
Like when when I was heavily watching porn and like it was
like a free for all. Like I would stay aware from
like, you know, hot sexy girl fucks dog or something like
that. I'm like, I don't, I don't want
to see that. Like I don't want to see
bestiality. You know what I'm saying?
Because I'm thinking, Oh man, this poor, you know, this poor

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deer wants to fuck another deer,not a human.
You know what I'm saying? Like there's got, I kind of feel
like bestiality is like a form of like animalistic rape because
I'm. Pretty.
Sure, no animal wants to fuck a human.
Why No, Just why I was. Like that's how mother fuckers
came up with AIDS and shit. They were like people was

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fucking monkeys. Like who the fuck is fucking
monkeys? Fucking monkeys.
Well, that's what they was asking.
Here's the thing. There's, I mean, there's enough
weird people in the world that you know, would fuck a koala
bear, you know what I'm saying? Like.
There's just. There's just.
There's just that weird. Maybe.
They carry that. They carry a different type of

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there. Ain't that widow I know?
They do carry chlamydia and it'sslow.
Hold on, we're talking over whatwas that your?
No, no, I said. There is that widow that would
do that, so I'm following. Yeah, there is there.
Not me. Don't look at me.
Why did you look at me? I'm not.
I didn't look at you, no. I did not look at you.

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Don't, don't worry. You don't know me well enough.
That's OK. Jamal and and Romeo were looking
at me like and no, I would not and I wouldn't watch the video.
Either. OK, OK, although I might watch
the porn I'm. Pretty sure somebody's asking
right now, Jamal. If you had to fuck an animal,
what would it be? Oh my God.

(15:57):
Would you rather? Yeah.
I mean, again, like, wow, if I had to fuck an animal, like go
into my head, you know what? You would just have to kill me.
Like you're just, yeah, you would probably have to pull the
trigger. I would say if I was a guy.

(16:19):
If I was a guy. What?
Huh. What's your?
Go ahead, go ahead. Wait, wait, go ahead.
What would your answer be? I was saying if I was a guy, my
answer would be something like acow or an elf, something that
wouldn't fill me so I wouldn't fill.
So if gun to my head, I would want something that wouldn't
even know that I was there, right?

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Like, look, I've seen my dad wasa large animal veterinarian.
I've seen him put his his whole arm up inside a cows and horses
before. They would not notice.
I don't care how hung you are. They would not notice some human
doing it. They would they would think that
it was an Ant tickling them or something.
I mean, I don't know. Oh, I think for me, it, I mean,
I would say, yeah, pull the trigger because then that way I

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would have to carry the shame ofknowing that I fucked an animal.
Because it's almost like somebody's going to know.
And then the girl that you're dating, they're going to be
like, hey, did you fuck this animal?
Is that how you made this $10 million?
And it's like, well. Hey, hold on, wait a minute.
Now it's not just a gun to your head, it's money involved too.

(17:28):
Now that changes everything. Like $10 million.
I know I don't want that really have.
It could take care of a lot of shame.
It could erase a lot of shame ifwe're talking. 10 million.
Dollars. That's true.
You you like that can $10 million, I can just this will

(17:53):
not happen again. I'm going.
To get this 10 mil. You know.
What quite dark place, quite quite dark place give me.
You know, let me tell you something.
You could cry on your yacht in the Bahamas and no and know that
nobody would know. Why are you crying, Drew?

(18:15):
Why are you so sad? I.
Was hilarious. Tell.
OK, not for nothing out not for nothing.
You really got me thinking aboutthis, $10 million.
Right. OK.
What would what would you? What's your answer, Romeo?
You said you had an answer. You knew you would say after

(18:35):
mine. I would go to the club and fuck
a cougar. That's the.
Lame answer. Oh, OK, I don't.
Know. I think, I think if I was the
fucking animal for $10 million, I'd want it to be an animal that

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can put up a fight. So at least I could just say
that I earned it. You know what I'm saying?
Like I want to come up, I want to come up with scratches all
over my body. So I could, you know, like like,
you know, so I don't know, like a koala bear.
It's it's like they're like they're not like huge or
anything like that. So it's just like, that's not
going to put up a fight like I would overpower.

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It no, they're they sleep through it.
But they do have really strong talent.
Yeah, they, they, they slow and they sleep all the fucking time.
He'll sleep right through it so.That's a nod.
What? What would you?
Now, are you looking at it? Does it have to be cute?
So while you're doing it, you know, you could like kind of get
into it or you want. Something a baboon with a big

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red ass that's already out therefor you, you want.
Something really ugly. You want scratches?
You'll get some, yeah. That would probably kill you.
So I found in my chance. Oh man, like, oh wow.
You have to take it too, Drew. You're next under this, this
gun. You're the next one under the

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gun. $10 million man, that's. 10.
Million yeah, I would just oh man, I you know, this kind I
don't know if you guys remember the first season, episode 1 of
Black Mirror that episode you you know, Drew.

(20:20):
Do I remember that? Episode.
I forget the name of the episode, but it's set in England
and. Oh no, it was a pig.
Yeah, it was a pig. Yeah, it was a.
Pig Prime Minister had to fuck apig.
Or else I remember that. Daughter, I think a Princess who

(20:41):
got kidnapped would be killed. And let me tell you something,
that episode would have lasted 8minutes because I'd have been
like, she's going to have to diestraight up.
She's going to have to fucking die.
The the show has been out for I think what, eight seasons now or

(21:01):
seven seasons? So I can talk about this
episode. But he ends up doing it.
He ends up going to town. Like they, they set up these
parameters, they set up like these, but like all of the, the,
the things that he tried to do to circumvent the kidnap and

(21:21):
bringing her back, it has all failed.
So now he has no choice. They got the pig in there and
he's sobbing and he's married, he's got a wife and it's this is
being filmed. It's close.
Like certain people, it's being filmed and people are watching
it. It is like, I mean it's.

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The. First season, first episode of a
show that it's like a Twilight Zone meets perversion of science
meets #5 I mean, it's, it's, I don't know.
I mean it's a crazy show, the shit that they do is crazy, but
episode 1 would have been 8 minutes long instead of what,
40? Some odd no I'd have been like
no this, she's dead, I'm not sticking my Dick.

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No animal to save a life. Well, here's the other question.
Well, hold on, hold on though. Depends on whose life, right?
Depends on if it was somebody. What if it was your niece?
What about your niece? Nope.
Whatever. Nope.
So see, I think that that kind of changed.
He says no, but it would. He would do it now.

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The the better question would be.
Are you going vaginal or anal? That's or is it a male?
Well. No, wait.
OK, OK, hold on, Hold on. Marianne.
You, you always know what to say.

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That kind of bring me back from the ledge.
If it If it was my niece, I would consider yes.
My niece is a sweet person who doesn't deserve to die because I
won't fuck an animal. I can't wait for it.
Just my fucking mouth. So with that being said, what

(23:11):
animal would it be? He's going for that pig, don't
you know? He's already seen It can be
done. Now I would probably go.
I'd probably do a sheep if anything.
See. Now that's.
Sheep. First of all, the sheep, from
what I understand, has the vaginal her the pussy of a sheep

(23:32):
is like that's the closest thingto a human from and that's what
I that's what I learned from my my white friends when I was in
the Navy. They used to, they used to broke
boast about fucking sheep. And I was like, for real, dude.
Oh yeah, you stick your fucking back legs down in your boots.
I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

(23:53):
And that way they can't run. I'm like, you motherfuckers are
nasty as hell. Here's the gel.
They say that you're supposed toput one boot, one leg in this
boot, one leg in this boot, and you should run them into a pond
or a lake and they can't. And then you get them Velcro
mittens and you just hang on. What the fuck was?
That's what the Cowboys told. I heard some.
You know, that's from people from Montana, where men are men

(24:15):
and sheep run scared. The biggest lie in Montana was
honest, officer. I was just helping that sheep
over the fence. Oh yeah.
So yeah. Wow.
Wow. So it's a sheep.
OK, OK. That'll probably be my go to.

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My go to animal. All right.
And $10 million or saving my niece's life.
OK, If I I kind of have the samekind of answer as you give me an
animal that won't know that I'm there.
They just like, so let me just do my business and just it just
be in and out quick. If animal doesn't know I'm

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there, I'm cool. Yeah.
I mean, like, what? What's the lamb?
Going to do tell the other lamb Nah Nah.
Give me a give me a animal that the lamb, the lamb is going to

(25:20):
have some the lamb is going to probably have feeling and just
kick my head off like that can happen.
So give me some something that won't do that.
Right. The lamb might like it.
I don't know. They might become your best
friend. Yeah, but yeah, but but you
don't need the lamb following you around like a fucking virgin

(25:42):
that you just de virginized like.
Oh my God, we're together. Now you don't need that
headache. That's my Boo.
Look at him. Come over here.
Bring me some of them. Sweet Chapel.
Yeah, could you, could you imagine just the animal
following you around? You wake up 1 morning and you
see the fucking lamb, like by your bed, you know what I'm

(26:03):
saying? Like how the fuck did you get in
here? You don't even get brown eyes.
God, I'm looking at you. You don't know how to call
nobody. You can't call nobody.
You think you could just bang meand wear my fucking wool as a
sweater? That's not how this works.

(26:24):
Or wear my sheepskin boots. I got sheepskin slippers on.
So all right. I think, I think the audience
knows our dirty little. Secret.
OK. Moving on, this is one way to to
introduce your Co worker. He'd be like talking to people

(26:48):
at work, like. I don't think he'll ever talk
to. I don't think he'll ever talk to
me again, like. He was asking me what kind of
animal I would fuck. Are you kidding?
He is. Is he straight up bat shit
crazy? Oh man.
When you work where we work, if that's that's where, that's
where our heads are at. Sure, blame it on the job.

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So Jamal, you sent us a posting for Celebrity Villains, right?
It's it was a list of 30 villains that were you gonna
have to read. You know what?
I'm sorry because I I have that on here.
It was the. 30 Best movie It's like the best movie villains.

(27:37):
Yes. Human villains.
Human villains is it did it did distinguish.
Yeah, it's 30 Greatest Human Villains in Movie History, and
boy, were there a lot to choose from.
I sent this also to Andrew as well, and we kind of chatted
about that. And a lot of these movies I have
watched, I, I mean, I've watchedmost of these movies, but I will

(28:00):
say this, there's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of them that
were so spot on. And I mean, yeah, so spot on.
So I mean they go from as as were, you know.
See. Case in point, I didn't watch

(28:20):
The Last Seduction, so it is a movie that I'll put on my list.
I know Linda Florentino Fiorentino, I've seen her in a
lot of movies. She's a pretty good actress, but
I'm like, I've never seen her play like a role like how
they've announced but #3 Alonzo Harrison Training Day, Denzel

(28:42):
Washington Academy Award. Winning.
Role. Which, yeah, I mean, you can't
go wrong with this guy as far as.
Yeah. It didn't sound anything.
Has my vote. Because I think, I think.
The thing is, we're so. Used to him playing a good guy.
We're so used to him playing, you know, a guy that we would

(29:03):
root for, but for him to just belike, you know what, I'll play a
villain and for him to crush it like how we did in training day.
Well, he's he's he's played villains in other movies also,
but not that many, I think. The other The other the other
movie that he played a villain in was with John Travolta where

(29:26):
they took over the train and John Travolta was trying to stop
him and. He.
I remember that. Are you talking about the?
Taking of Pelham, 123. I think he was a villain in
that. Movie.
No, John Travolta was. The villain.
Oh, OK. Well, I'm sorry I got that mixed
up. That was on me.
Yeah, but he not. Not all black people are are

(29:50):
villains in New York, you know. Yeah, Romeo, that's his last
one. Damn.
And, and Speaking of that, John Travolta, I think, does a very
good job playing a villain. Strangely enough.
Oh yeah. I don't think John.
Travolta is in this list. That's the thing that kind of

(30:11):
tripped me out because I. Or, or Samuel Jackson.
I thought Samuel Jackson was great in, in Pulp Fiction and
and Django. I mean, he's he's been really
good villains and he's not on the list.
I think, but I think compared. To these villains that.

(30:32):
I'm looking. At in the top 30, so it's only
but so much that could be in that list and they go from the
top of the top villains. They did.
Take some out. Some ancient old ones like.
OK, so how many have you guys all seen?
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.Yes, the original.
Yes, we have nurse. Ratchet Nurse Ratchet.

(30:53):
Yes. Yes, that I was kind of
surprised. Yes, they went way back like 70s
for that one. Right, right, right now.
She was great. Kathy Bates was in there also.
Yeah, she was great. Oh yeah, for misery.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh yeah. I thought, well, they had one of

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my favorite ones that I saw, I mean, Keith Ledger's Joker.
I mean, you kind of, you know, you kind of can't go wrong with
that. But also Javier Bardem in No
Country for Old Man. I love his character in that.
Just a maniacal mechanical hitman that's just all about

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nothing gets in my way between my boss's money and me.
Like he, I mean, I knew he was going to when I saw that movie.
My first thought was, Oh yeah, he's going to get nominated and
win the Academy Awards for this,for this character.
I couldn't. I didn't.
I could not, did not like that movie at all.

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I thought it was a waste of my time.
Yeah, I was not engrossed. I love that modern day western
ish kind of thing. Well.
You guys don't think though? I'm so used to Clint Eastwood
kicking ass, taking names and like prevailing at the end no
matter what. OK.
So for this, I was kind of like,yeah, no, not what I want.

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I I, I hear Clint Eastwood and Isee him, you know, persevering
at the end of the day against all odds.
And instead we've got the outcome for this.
And I was like, yeah, no, I'm not happy.
Not I wasted my money. Well, other Helens that were

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mentioned were of course Hannibal Lecter from selling
some Hans Guber from Die Hard. See.
Hunt Gruber from Die Hard I thought was OK, but I didn't
think that that's why he made that list compared to some like
Samuel. Jackson would give way back.
Yeah, yeah, I think Samuel Jackson beat him out by far with

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Pulp Fiction and with Django. Yeah, but the here's the thing
though. The thing about pulp?
Fiction is. The.
Samuel Jackson wasn't really like a villain and and and I
mean, he was just a hit man. I mean, him and Travolta, I
think there were, I don't, I didn't really look at them as

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villains. I mean, they had a job that they
did where they had to kill people.
But I don't I don't think that Pulp Fiction has a has an
ensemble cast. There wasn't really no main star
in it. If you like ever watched it all
the way through, like, you know,if you looked at something like,

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like Hans Gruber, he was the badguy.
He was the main bad guy. There was really no main bad guy
in Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction is was just
basically a series of stories that kind of intertwined into,
you know, that that that characters just kind of
intertwined, woven in. So yeah, I loved John Travolta

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in it. I love Samuel L Jackson in it.
But they weren't really the. Main characters that were, you
know, in it, like Bruce. Willis was in it.
You know, he had enough screen time there.
Bang Rhames and Bruce Willis shared a very awkward screen
time in that movie. But when it comes to like movies
with super ensemble cast, unlessthere's like 1 character that's

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like Oh my God, this character is a fucking bitch.
Or this character pretty much overshadowed all the other
characters? I don't think so.
I don't think Samuel L Jackson really did that.
And I think you even mentioned Django Unchained.
He wasn't a villain in Django. He was just an Uncle Tom to the
yeah. He was.

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He was the Uncle Tom. The actual villain was the
master. Basically Leonardo.
Appropriate. That can't be about.
What about was Wesley Snipes in it?
Wesley Snipes on on the list. No.
No. Why?
Well, because he was. He was the ultimate Nino Brown.

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Yeah. OK.
I I get that and. He and he killed, he crushed
that, that scene. He's a villain.
He was the ultimate fucking bad.The modern day fucking Scarface.
And you know what? I as I'm.
Scrolling through this. List.
I'm pretty sure there's a few people like Bill from Kill Bill.

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You could take him off the list,I didn't think.
Bill from Kill Bill was that bigof a villain either.
Yeah. He.
He. Not not as far as like the
moment like on on on behind camera, like really building up
to the the show. I mean, I don't think he had
anything really to do with that movie itself.

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I mean than his kill Bill was inthe title but like he wasn't
hardly even in any of the like the people that see groom to do
the killing is more. Exactly, I mean he wasn't really
you didn't first of all, what hehad not even a minute of screen
time on the first one and then the second one is where you
really see him and but towards the end.

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But at the same time, I never thought leaving the movie.
First of all, I didn't even likeKill Bill two.
I thought it was pretty boring that you know, but I didn't
think that I didn't I didn't leave the theater after watching
kill Bull 2 thinking, Oh my God,Bill was no like he did.
It did his role did nothing for me.

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So the fact that he's on this list to me, it it's kind of it
doesn't really ring that much. It doesn't it doesn't do
anything for me. Again, I would have taken him
out and again probably replaced him with Nino Brown.
I think Nino Brown Wesley Snipesshould be on this list because
Nino Brown was a fucking you know that that was a a modern

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day ghetto villain. Yes, yes, A.
Serious modern day ghetto villain.
Like I said, he was a modern dayScarface.
You know, because. Because that character didn't.
That character would have sacrificed his friends if it
meant him being on top. I mean the things that and even
the things that he did in the movie, like, you know, you know,

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cheated on his girl and fucked his friend's girl girlfriend,
like that's kind of violent itself, you know what I'm
saying? Like that right there is.
Pretty. Fucked up and then you know,
when they when one of his coworkers, one of his employees
blamed him like, hey, if you were handling your business, I
mean, he checked his crew, you know what I'm saying?

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Like he was not, he was feared. He was not to be, you know,
tested, you know, he was so thatI, I would replace Bill with
him. As far as Sam Jackson's
villainous roles, I'm trying to,I mean.
He has. Played some villains but I guess

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not enough memorable ones where you know like Bill the Butcher
from Gangs of New York. I didn't even like that.
I didn't like Gangs of New York,but Bill the Butcher stood out.
Bill the Butcher was. Basically he.
Carried that movie to be honest with you like Daniel Day Lewis

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literally carried that movie because I thought all that most
of the actors in it were just horrible except for Bill the
butcher who you can watch that movie with Bill the butcher by
himself. And if Daniel Day Lewis wasn't
in that movie I would be like OKthis movie completely sucks.
I didn't really like that movie too much.
But if I do watch it, it's because of Bill the Butcher in

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that movie. So what do you think?
OK, so they also have Renee. I don't know how to pronounce
his last name. Belle Ku.
Well, it's the movie. The Raiders of the Lost Ark.
I thought. That was an odd one, because
Raiders of the Lost Ark, I don't.
He was in it, but he didn't have.

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It was like a cameo. Yeah, his it was a cameo scene
where he where he he was the leader the Germans in that.
Yeah. And his scene was not very
memorable at all. No, like he it like it was
almost like a cameo where he just he got killed like yeah,

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they it was it was. I didn't get that.
I. Didn't get that.
I have to say on this list, the one that probably 'cause I
haven't seen all these movies. Hey, I have not seen all these
movies, but the one movie that chilled me to my freaking core
was Silence of the Lambs. That one like Hannibal Lecter.
Oh my God, that is like the biggest nightmare.

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Because it's, it's not like an, it's not like a character that
you can say, oh, it's fictional.I mean, this is like a real
character and. This is some you can see
somebody evil doing that. Yeah.
And that's what's so chilling about him.

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Yeah, no, it's I mean, and the fact that the whole time he's
behind bars, it's that sinisterness that, you know, you
could literally feel. That's what I liked about this
movie and what he wasn't doing anything.
It was the things that he has done.
I mean, if you ever seen a movieManhunter, it was the things

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that he did before Silence of the Lambs and then the fact that
he got locked up and he's doing,you know, the roles behind the
scenes with Jodie. I mean, behind the behind bars
with Jodie Foster. I mean, if you ever watched a
movie, you pretty much are in the shoes of Jodie Foster and
you're hearing all these things that Hannibal Lecter is.

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I mean, how could you not cringe?
You know what I mean? So I I get where you're coming
from with that. The one villain that really
shook me to my core. And this goes way, way back.
Well, not way, way back, but enough where, you know, I was a
kid, I grew, I grew up watching this, and this guy still scares
me. And that's Norman Bates in
Psycho. Norman Bates in Psycho.

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Norman Bates in Psycho, and I'lltell you why it scares me #1
sometimes evil is just in plain sight and you think you know
somebody. I mean, Norman Bates was one of
those guys where he's making youa sandwich one moment and then
he's murdering you in the showerjust as his mom in another
moment. So it's all, it's the

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psychological part of human nature.
When I was a kid, that's the thing that scared me, even
though I was too young to understand understand it.
But the fact that, you know, like none of these other
characters for the most part, I mean, Hannibal Lecter would do
the same for me as well. But Norman Bates was like my

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childhood, like scary, scary person just because, you know,
it's not like it was a supernatural thing.
It's he's a human being with a problem and he can snap at any
moment. And, you know, even in today's
society, that still rings true. So Norman Bates would be my my

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villain, my number one villain that haunted me.
You know, and The thing is though, is that they used that
that character, he actually was based off of Ed Ginn.
And I think they actually have adocumentary out on him right
now. And the happy face killer.

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But. He was used.
I haven't seen that. I kind of want to, but I'm not
really AI don't know. I don't like.
He won't watch it. We ain't gonna watch it.
You can. You can read up on it.
We ain't gonna watch it. Yeah.
But he but he was acting like. That.
I thought that I'm checking it. I've look, I've, I've dealt with
too much real life bullshit and psychos and and killers in real

(43:41):
life. I don't need to, I, I don't need
to, to go into some fantasy world to get my thrills and and
scare. No, I know that there's you
know, so not having to deal withthat is, is much easier for me.
Like I, I would like to watch something happy and and silly on

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TV. But but he was also he he was
also the Ed Gwynn was also used the basis for the Texas Chainsaw
Massacre, the Silence of the Lambs, Henry Henry Portrait of a
serial killer and others that like, it's because there is

(44:23):
somebody like that who's done such heinous things that they
were able to create. Like I know that with Silence of
the Lambs, that killer, they hadtaken multiple different serial
killers to mold and make into that one killer.
I think they got a series on himright now on Netflix called The

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Monster. Is it the monster or is it the
Happy face Killer? It's called the Monster.
It's about the Happy Face Killer.
Yeah, it's and they interviews with his daughter so.
Drew, let me ask you this. Out of all those villains that
you kind of scrolled through, which one stands out?
Which one do you think? Which is your favorite villain?

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My favorite villain, we have allthose movies, the Hans Hans and
Inglourious Bashers. That was that was one of my
favorites because I that was really like Inglourious bashers,
like honestly one of my like, I really like that favorite
movies, like kind of like one ofmy top 10 movies.
So I would say that. He did win an Academy Award for

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that role. Too so.
Just like just like you said, just like you said and Alonzo in
Training Day and I like Christian Bale in American
Psycho. Yeah, he was.
He was very nothing that way. Yeah, he was very.
You know, it's funny. I have the Patrick Bateman card

(45:57):
on by my computer. Actually, I forget where I got
it, but I have it sitting on my computer.
And then, like we had one of ourvendors come in for, like, the
sales meetings that we have, andhe was talking to me and he saw
the car and he picked it up and he looked at it and he's like,
that's an American cycle car. And I'm like, yeah.
And he and he just puts it back.He just puts it back down.

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He's like, yeah, here's here's my card.
I have to give him my card. Patrick Bateman card.
And he was like that. That's actually pretty cool.
I'm like, yeah, that's kind of just, you know, that's an ice
breaker. But me and the had already
broken the ice. But he sees the Patrick Bateman
card and now he's talking about the movie and how much he liked
it. But yeah, I know that was a a,

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that was very good. I, I wasn't a huge fan of
American Psycho, but Christian Bale in it did a really good job
of being that. So I could see why you would,
why you would like that. No, definitely.
You know 1 I don't see on here is Glenn Close for Fatal

(47:03):
Attraction. She should be in that.
She absolutely should be. I mean, everybody knows, like,
you know, I think that's there'sa term that's been coined
because of that movie. It's, you know, like when people
are talking about a woman being batshit crazy and they're like,
is she Bunny boiler? Is she a Bunny boiler?
You know and. I know.

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Just for made of attraction. Shit.
Just for that alone, she should be.
She should be. Yes, yes.
And that's she said, though, it's that they, they make
reference to her when they're talking about the movie The Last
Seduction, the the femme fatale,Bridget Gregory in the last
seduction. They made comment about Glenn

(47:45):
Close and I was like, I was really surprised that Glenn
Close didn't make this list because that one right there
was. I mean, there's there's been so
many different aspects of that movie because it wasn't just
isn't that isn't fatal Attraction Glenn Close also the
no no, I'm thinking Sharon Stonewhere she crossed her legs and

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every. Oh, that's Basic Instinct.
Yeah, OK. So never.
Mind. The movie where everybody paused
the they paused the video so much that it actually destroyed
videotapes 'cause that that part.
Was trying to see her. They were trying to see her
underwear. No, she wasn't.

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And she crossed her legs and basic instincts.
Remember she the scene where shecrossed her legs?
It's, yeah, it's the classic scene and basic instincts.
Yeah, yeah. So.
But. But Glenn Close should have been
there. Glenn Close definitely should
have been. And they also mentioned Rosamund
Pike and Gone Girl. They should have had Sharon

(48:51):
Stone in it also for. You know, no Sharon Stone.
Oh hell no. She does not know how to play a
villain. She is a Gone Girl.
Roseman Pike should probably be in.
Should be on that list too. I just recently saw it and all I
thought about was she's a bitch on wheels.

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Yeah, Gone Girl. Gone Girl should.
She should probably be on that. Oh my God, Yeah, Gone Girl
should be. She should be on that list.
So I'm wondering who came up with this list, because
apparently. It's it's I think the, a woman
she wrote this article about twoweeks ago.

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And again I'm, I'm scrolling through this and again, the one,
the movies that I didn't see, I read the ones because there's
some movies that I haven't seen.And I'm like, OK, I'll put this
move around the list and then I'll be the judge of that.
But there's always going to be when it comes to lists,
especially like this, there's always somebody missing from
that. That's somebody and we already

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in our opinions. Now.
Three, I kind of found one, and I'm still debating in my head if
this particular character belongs on the list.
And I'll throw this out there, it's Richard Gere's character in
Internal Affairs. He plays this crooked cop, OK?

(50:18):
So plays this. Crooked cop and Andy Garcia is
the internal affairs who investigates him and the shit
that Richard Gere. With the man but Richard.
Gere, Yeah, Richard. Gere was God damn that was such
a good show. And some of the shit that he
did, there's a scene where oh, like I think William Baldwin is

(50:43):
in his is in his house and. Richard.
Gere is feeding his kids and they're talking and William,
William Baldwin is all nervous and shit and then Richard Gere
starts rubbing his chest. Trying to see if.
William Baldwin is wearing a wire, you know, and it was just

(51:04):
so subtle, the way that he does it.
And he's like, are you checking me for a wire?
And he's like, don't ever come to my house and talk like that
again. Whatever.
I think Richard Gere should be on this list as well.
And again, yeah, that's the one that stands out.
Also another person that should be on this list.

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Wow. These are John Malkovich in In
the Line of Fire should be on that list.
Oh my God, it's so many different.
John Malkovich is such a great, like villain.
He is. He is.
When you hear that John Malkovich is in a movie as a
villain, you're like, I don't want to see this just because

(51:45):
he's in. It as a matter of fact John
Malkovich as a villain in anything should be on that list.
Like maybe 4-4 more times. Yeah, he is so good.
I do enjoy him as a villain. Yeah, John Malkovich in and, and
I mean, he's got different disguises.
He's a great actor. I think he's so underrated.

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He is such a great actor. But him in an in the Line of
Fire. It's it's such a great movie
and. He's a really, really.
Great villain in that movie. And I think also when it comes
to villains, you know, anybody with political power, I think,

(52:28):
you know, like when I think GeneHackman in absolute power.
He was a villain even. Though the people around him try
to cover up his mishap, but he was a villain in my eyes because
he made it OK for them to do what his handlers were doing.
So I'm just like, you know, you did this and you're allowing him

(52:50):
to cover it up. And you're a politician, a man
of power. You're a villain.
I kind of feel like he should beon that list, even though, you
know, he and and and I don't mean like, I mean, he was, yeah,
I think he was a villain, A mildvillain, but nonetheless the the
villain in that in that particular movie.

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They have Casino Royale listed. And.
And when I saw that, I was like,I liked the character, I liked
the movie, But no, he was not. He was.
I. Would pull.
I would pull. No, he was great.

(53:33):
I would pull him out. He's not.
Definitely not top 30. Yeah, see, I don't think, and I
base some of this stuff on maybea little bit brief of what I'm
reading about it, but also what I've heard about the movies,
even if I haven't seen him a lotof times.
Like I know that with Fatal Attraction, I didn't, I mean,

(53:56):
that movie was everything everybody talked about at school
when it came out. I mean, because I was back when
I was in high school and Oh my God, everybody was talking about
it and and just how crazy it was.
I didn't watch that movie until maybe what I think I watched it
with you for the first time. Nope, you didn't watch it with
me. I watched it like within the

(54:17):
last 6-7 years. And.
I was like it holds up. I can see why they they were
still. Holds up.
We did. Watch that together.
We did watch it together. It's like because we did watch
it. So it's not been that long ago.
I finally watched it and it still holds up and I I was like

(54:38):
wow, she is wow she's. Yeah.
That's crazy. And that character and I, I just
feel that if you're going to stay with all the millions of
movies, hundreds of thousands ofmovies that are out, if you're
going to say top 30, every single person on that top 30
list should make you go, oh, yeah, yeah.

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They earned that spot, right? That's where I'm like Hans
Gruber. I love, I love the movie.
Oh my God. Die hard.
Die Hard. Yeah.
I love that movie. Hans.
Hans Gruber. Really.
Nah, I kind of I. Kind of feel that that was more
of like a post, you know, like, I mean, he was a very, I thought

(55:26):
it was a very good villain. I mean, if you're going to, I
kind of feel like he would have to be in that top 30.
Now, remember, it's not like this goes back.
Die Hard came out in what the the like late 80s.
So. It's kind of like for that time
he was probably like, you know, the bee's knees back in the day
when he came out. Now nowadays it's like, OK, you

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know, but when I, I remember when I first watched it, you
know, I was, I was a kid and youknow, the things that he did,
you know, get the detonators, you know, I'm trying to like I,
I, I would put him in the list now the, the, the Bond villain.
There's so many better Bond villains than the one.
I mean Casino Royale. Now, Casino Royale was the first

(56:13):
Daniel Craig James Bond movie and that was the first.
It was supposed to be like a reboot.
But yeah, so it was and, and Casino Royale was a fantastic
movie. It has a lot of great actors in
it. But the Bond villain, I could
probably pick out maybe 3 betterBond villains and then two more
before I got to that one, you know, so and my favorite Bond

(56:38):
villain, I mean Hans Blofeld, gold member, I mean gold
Goldfinger, gold member, that's the other, that's Austin Powers.
But there were a lot more villainous bad guys than that.
When he's a good actor, don't get me wrong, I don't I wouldn't

(56:59):
take anything from him. But all the other ones that we I
would probably, you know, I would probably put I mean, if I
have to choose between him and Jennifer Jason Lee and single
wife female, she gets in before he does.
Right, right. But then again, I wouldn't put
Jennifer Jason Lee in that either.

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Even though she's a good villainvillainess in that movie
nonetheless, I don't think I would.
She she and she was great. I wouldn't put her in the list
because like you just said, there's out of the hundreds of
thousands of movies. If I'm, if I watch him move like
again, that's how I felt when I saw No Country of Old men.

(57:41):
I was like that. You want, you want that villain?
And even though he was a supporting actor, he wasn't even
he was a supporting actor. So you want the supporting actor
and everything Javier Bardem hasdone, he's an incredible actor.
There's nothing that man can do.So.

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When I see him play a villain insomething, I'm like, oh, this is
going to be a very interesting movie.
I like he was a Bond villain in Skyfall.
I love this character in Skyfall.
I like his character in Skyfall.And then I like the, you know,
Hans character, this character in Casino Royale.

(58:24):
But but yeah, there's AI feel like there's a lot of other
villains that again. And what I what I kind of want
to do is I want to research the person that wrote this, see how
old she is, because she put a lot of old movies in there.
But I'm kind of like, did she really see these movies?
You know what I'm saying? I mean, pen probably that, but

(58:47):
but it's but it's all like a list, a top 30 list.
You're not going to get everything right, honestly, just
everybody, yeah, I think. That there's probably somebody
out there that thinks that, you know, the ones that we think are
good, they would disagree and would think that the ones that
we didn't agree with were so. That's that's a good.

(59:12):
Way for Face off. We were talking about that.
We were talking about John Travolta and stuff, but Nicholas
Cage actually made it for face off.
And he was a great villain in Face Off.
He was a great villain in Facebook.
I freaking love Face Off and I love the fact the way they
switched roles was freaking awesome.

(59:34):
I loved it is if they just you. Know it was unique.
It was very unique. It was very unique.
But you made a point there when you said that she the the right,
the the writer of this column, There's some things that she's
seen and a lot of things that she probably hasn't.

(59:57):
And that that brings me back to,you know, it's absolutely.
That's absolutely true. Because I doubt if this woman
ever seen New Jack City, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. I mean don't get.
Me wrong. I, I I'm not.
I'm not discrediting. No, me either.
Because I that's what. I that's why I brought that up.

(01:00:18):
That's what I mean. I'm not discrediting her because
she may, she may she, she may have never seen New Jack City
because mostly it's probably in a rural area or a black it it,
it, it had a black demographic. You know where where most of
these movies we're talking abouthave a demographic for
everybody. Yeah.
And we've seen and I've seen most of these movies exactly,

(01:00:42):
exactly. When I'm, when I'm flipping, as
I was, you know, flipping through it.
I was kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
With, with, with some of them, which again, there's no perfect
list. There was even an Asian chicken
there in this movie called The Audition.
I believe. I'm like, you know what?
I, I'm, I'm going to put that onmy list, see where, if I can

(01:01:05):
find it streaming. And then I'm going to pay
attention to her role and be like, OK, maybe, maybe there's
some in there. I'm pretty sure people who are
listening to this part to this episode are probably like, oh, I
could think of a bunch of movieswhere the villain stands out or
that's like the worst villain. And I, I want to hear that.

(01:01:26):
I want to hear these folks opinions or their ideas as well,
because I know there's some thatare probably hanging off the top
of our tongue where we're like, oh, you know what?
Her or him or that. So like, I think like
personally, I think John, you know, John Malkovich is a great

(01:01:48):
actor who can play a villain, even John Travolta, John
Lithgow, all these Johns, but John Lithgow is one of those
actors that can play a villain now.
Yeah, even. Oh my.
God. Christopher Walken, even.
Christopher Walken wasn't in there.
He. He played.
He played the King of New York and he he was a villain through

(01:02:10):
the whole movie. I was like, and that he was a
badass. Oh my God, he's he's playing.
He's. Played a lot of good villains.
And he's so good at it. Oh my God, What else did he
play? I'm trying to think there's
another one, that it was a dark movie that he played the villain
it. Was in Sleepy Hollow but it was
more of a cameo role but villainis enough.
He's he's done some really dark,he's done some that were dark.

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True, True. True.
Oh. Actually, he was in a movie with
Sean Penn way back in the day called.
That's what I'm thinking maybe. Because, because and he has this
fucking mustache, this thick assmustache.
And Sean Penn is like a child. And I can't think of the movie

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off the top of my head. I just thought while I was in,
when I was in Kansas City last year, but he plays ability.
He plays, I believe he plays hisuncle and he does like a lot of
he he's like a plays like this gangster, like this backwards
gangster or whatever. Yeah.

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He should have been on that list.
But something of Christopher Walken should probably be on
that list. I mean King of New York.
I mean, you had me at Nino Brown.
Called at close range. Thank you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.
Yeah, he played a true story. Yeah.

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He played a really, really convincing bad guy in that
movie. And yeah, so he, I mean, but
Christopher Walken, he's never, he's never turned down the role
that was presented to him where he was able to play.
So but yeah, there's, I mean, I,I there's a lot of good actors

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that do very well without even trying at playing the villain.
And I think Samuel L Jackson, I'm waiting for that one role
where he's just like, OK, nailedit, you know?

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Yeah. Yeah, and, and, and even I'm
still trying to think like I, I have like a bunch of movies over
here and I'm just like, which one?
See. I think that that's the one I
was thinking it, it was yeah, atclose range, I think.

(01:04:45):
But you know, Christopher Walkenhas just done so many amazing
movies. There's.
I mean, OK, so we're talking about we're talking about like,
Oh yeah, that was a good one too.
We're talking about all these characters.
I have to ask you guys, do you ever want to think about this?
Who is your favorite all time villain?

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Oh, that's easy for me. That's easy.
I think I know what Jamal's going to say because you might
dressed up as him. Yeah, I'll you.
You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, my
dear. It's definitely Heath Ledger's
Joker in The Dark Knight. My favorite villain, whether

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it's in the movies, in the cartoons, my favorite villain of
all time. What about you, Romeo?
Oh, it's definitely Nino Brown, the new Jack City Help 5.
Dollar ass down farm exchange. Sit your fat out of the ass down
before I make check AM. I.

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My brother Sleeper. Yeah, I got.
Alot you got to be it got it, got to be Alonzo and Training
day or the Joker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK. Yeah, training day, that was.
Yeah, he was bad ass. And that too.
Freaking freaking Denzel. Yep, Yep.

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Who is yours? I I if I'm going to base it on
the things that scared the Gigi's out of me, Hannibal
Lecter, that only I think that Anthony Hopkins brought that
character to life so well that especially me being a fat chick,

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I've always scared everybody. Tell me, help me put a couch in
my van. You can fuck right off.
All the way off. I wanna wear your skin.
Yeah, like, no, you ain't wearing nothing.
It's. The lotion on the skin.
Or else it. Gets the hose again yeah it but
that was definitely one of thosethose movies that oh it's scared

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I think that that just because what scared me so much about it
was that it wasn't just a character it was based on real
life serial killers. That's the part that that scared
me so bad. And I think that Anthony
Hopkins, like, he was able to deliver it in such a like.

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His delivery was solid. It was.
It was, it was so terrifying because to him it was just like
he, he could talk about eating somebody's liver with fava
beans, like he was talking abouteating some pound cake.
You know it was. Delicious.
You know, that that's it. That beans that.
Oh, man, yeah, he yeah, yeah. That was that kept that, that

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that that. Kind of, you know, put it over
the top. Yeah, it definitely kept me
upnight. Yeah, it kept me upnight.
You want to know who I feel? You want to know who I feel
they're also missing. And it sucks that I'm just now
realizing this and, and I know we haven't said Al Pacino,
Scarface, whatever. I mean, I could get behind that.

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I kind of feel that Robert De Niro's Cape Fear should
definitely be on there. Oh, Robert De Niro.
God De Niro is yes. But he's been so many.
Oh my God. Mafia Magazine.
He's done. He's done.
So many. I say I, I say Cape Fear and

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also raise fuck. I just had it.
I just had it. Heat.
Fellas. Goodfellas.
Yeah, I would. I would take his, I would take
his character and Goodfellas over.
And I love his character and Heat's my favorite movie of all
time. But Goodfellas, Robert De Niro

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and Goodfellas was a vicious villain, and that was.
Also based on a true story as well, right?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
The very most part. Yeah, for the most part it was.
They take a lot of liberty. They have to take a lot of
liberty with it to be able to beable to put it on screen and TV

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for everybody. But I think that, yeah, that I
did see Goodfellas, at least part of it.
And yeah. Like, I think those two
characters, I mean, he should bein there for those two
characters. And I believe Al Pacino should
be in there for Godfather Part 2.

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If you want to talk villainous, he was more villainous in Part 2
than he was in One and Three. And the Devil's Advocate?
That should get an honorable mention.
Oh yeah. Yeah, he should get one just
with Scarface. Yeah, I think Scarface alone
was. Incredible.
You know it. Was it is.

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De Niro and Pitino, both of them.
You mentioned them and they're kind of synonymous with the The
Gangster movie. And the mafia.
That, that mafia, the mafia withand everything that that
entails. And so that right there, yeah,
that gets them. Off I would write the editor and
be like, have you ever seen Godfather?

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2 That's where shit got. Real.
Yeah. Like don't get me wrong, but
Godfather one, a nice little twohour and 45 minute movie, but
the Godfather? Two.
Really. Like set the bar for like.
I mean it really. Just question there.

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I have to question. I'm looking at this list and I
really have to question. Did like some of there's a
couple of black and white moviesin here that it mentions.
One of them is Double Indemnity.Double indemnity, OK.
Yeah. And then Shadow of a Doubt.

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Let's see. Bear with me.
And I thought there was another one.
Yes. The Night of the Hunter.
OK. Have you guys even heard of
these movies? These are black and white.
So these are way back. I've been actually trying to

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get, I'm trying to watch as manyblack and white movies as I can,
like a bunch of the older stuff.Those I've heard of Double
Indemnity, I haven't heard of the other ones, and I've never
seen the other ones you just mentioned.
So, and it makes me kind of wonder, like, not to to be
ageist, but who really remembersthese movies compared to the

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movies we were just talking about without Pacino and De
Niro? People that are older than us.
And are they really watch? Are they really reading this,
this article? I mean, like seriously, there's
not much, you know, I'm just saying that there's a lot of
movies that they, they dug really far back.
And I'm not saying that that's necessarily a bad thing.

(01:12:01):
I'm just saying that they I, I. What it makes?
Me, yeah. It just makes me wonder how what
they were basing their their youknow, what are the what are the
credentials for it to be a bad guy in a movie?
I mean, I think basically, well,one of the things that you said,
you know, when I walk out of a movie theater.

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Or when. You got to be like, Oh my God,
that, you know, that villain was, you know, it, it, it, it,
it makes you rethink your religion, like that kind of
stuff. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Hannibal Lecter. Hannibal Lecter.
Yeah, Fatal Attraction. Oh my God.
Like all the movies, all the movies and the villains that we
just named they I kind of felt like they had an impact.

(01:12:47):
You know, even the impact, you know they had an impact because
again, the movie is going to themovie is always going to be as
good as the bad guy you. Know what I'm saying?
Right and sometimes, sometimes we root for the bad guy, even
though 9 times out of 10 we knowthe bad guy is going to die.
But it's all about what do they do from the beginning of the.

(01:13:08):
Movie. To the end of the movie and the
things that they do in between. So you know, when I watched The
Dark Knight, I remember watchingit the the first time it was
like, oh, they're just really going to jump into this and you
saw the things that you know, the Joker did in the movie.
And I mean, one of my favorite scenes is when you know me and

(01:13:30):
my other. Co worker.
Talk about this all the time is where he's in there with Michael
J White and he does the disappearing of the pencil
trick, you know what I'm saying?And he does that within the 1st
10 minutes of the movie. How are you not hooked?
Yeah, that was that was that wasthe scene right there.

(01:13:50):
I. Can't wait for his next scene.
You know what? I'm saying to a point where
he's. Standing on a he's standing on a
mountain of money and he's burning it.
I mean, that's, that's, that's beyond, I'm the bad guy now.
I'm just fucked. I'm a lunatic.
I'm dressing up as a nurse and I'm about to blow up a hospital.

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I mean, it's like, it's the things in between.
So whenever I write screenplays and I got to write a bad guy,
it's not about what comes out ofhis mouth as far as dialogue
goes. It's, I need the people who are
reading this or who are seeing this to be like, Oh my God, this
is very different from, you know, the other night I watched

(01:14:36):
the original Taken of Pelham 123with, with Walter Matthau and,
and yeah, such a good movie. I didn't even mind you, I
haven't even seen the new one yet.
Well, I should say new one. I haven't seen the remake yet
because nowadays I I don't give a shit about remakes #1 Some.

(01:14:58):
Movies. Should not be remade.
Agreed. Agreed.
You know, when I saw The Taking of Pelham 123, I was, it was, it
was, I thought it was going to be boring.
It was not Walter Matthau was great.
Everybody in the movie was great.
The last five seconds of the movie, basically it's the whole
movie now. So I, I, I, I, I like to go back

(01:15:21):
and I like to watch these old movies.
Case in point, Sabrina. There's the remake that has Greg
Kinnear I believe is in it, and Harrison Ford.
And there's the older version which I think has the guy who's
from Casablanca, Humphrey Bogart, who not for nothing,

(01:15:46):
might sneak up in there and be my second favorite actor.
Actually, I watch Harvey. I watch Humphrey Bogart in The
African Queen. I don't know if you guys Yeah,
so I watched these old. Movies I.
Love the old movies. The African Queen with him and
Audrey Hepburn. I'm like, wow, I, I, I don't

(01:16:07):
know if it's because I'm gettingolder and I'm just like, I
appreciate those older Movies Now because if it wasn't for
them, those older movies, which in my opinion are way better
than the shit Hollywood is cranking out now, which is why I
go to the movies way less. But I do watch the old movies.

(01:16:28):
I do watch the black and whites.I've watched The Goodbye Girl
with the the dude from Mr. Holland's Opus and from Stakeout
Anyway, Richard Dreyfuss and it's Richard Dreyfuss and this
other lady and he plays an actorin New York and he moves in with

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this girl and her and her daughter.
And it's it's not a black and white movie.
This one actually had color in it.
But this was like Richard Dreyfuss is like older movies.
And I'm like, oh, I like RichardDreyfuss.
And I and I just sat down and watched this movie for no
apparent reason. And you know what?
It was good. You know.
So. Richard Dreyfuss is a great
actor. He's A and he was.

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What's what's crazy is that Richard Dreyfuss, when he was
younger was considered like a sex symbol.
I mean, he was like, considered.Yeah.
Wow. Yeah, he was.
Find that hard to imagine, But Idon't think you're wrong about
that. Like.
When he was younger, Yep, when he was younger, like in I, and
I'm going to say like in the 70sor like mid 70s, he was

(01:17:34):
considered, you know, like I, I wouldn't be surprised if he was
on one of time's most sexiest man alive type of shit.
But. Take a look at.
Something they've had on there. He's.
Definitely an influential. Actor.
I mean, he's definitely made a lot of great movies.
It's funny, I was on the Upper West Side of Manhattan and I ran

(01:17:55):
into him and he was with his kids.
And I was like, that's Richard Dreyfuss.
But I didn't want to say anything to him because, you
know, he's with his kids. I didn't want to be that guy,
you know what I'm saying? But I But I was just like, love
your work, you know what I'm saying?
And just kept it moving, you know?
So. But yeah, Richard Dreyfuss is,

(01:18:15):
you know, is an amazing actor. But yeah, so I start like
watching like a lot of these older movies in order to
understand these newer movies orthe stuff that came out after,
you know, So if I see a movie and I'm like, oh, there, this is

(01:18:35):
a remake of that movie, I try togo find that movie and watch it.
I never ever, ever, ever remake Casablanca.
That is the perfect movie. I would be so pissed if they if
they remake that movie. There's some movies that I don't
think it's possible to remake only because they're so iconic

(01:18:58):
that you would like how what would you ever be able to bring
to the table to something like Casablanca or you know, but
we've seen him do it with other movies like they did with Red
Dawn. They which was.
Yes, they did. Why?
And I was like. What?
Was the the Schwarzenegger Mars One?

(01:19:22):
Total recall. Oh, Total Recall.
Yeah, that's they. Made total recall.
I didn't even bother watching that shit and.
Then Independence Day. They remade Independence Day.
Like why I? Haven't.
The sequels. Have you seen any of the?
Have you seen the remakes? No I I only seen the original.
I never knew they made remade Independence Day.

(01:19:44):
They did. It was Independence Day.
Yeah, the. Sequel.
The sequel sucked it it's the first one was good.
They didn't. Have any of the regular original
characters in it? Well, Will Smith wanted.
Will Smith wanted more. Will Smith wanted more money.
And I don't think he's in that movie.
Yeah, he's. I think Jeff Goldblum stayed on.

(01:20:07):
And I didn't, I mean, I didn't see the rest of I've, I've never
seen that movie. And his wife was in there, too.
Yeah, and she got killed right away.
Yeah. So most of these.
Yeah, people. Play Will Smith.
Yeah, I didn't see it, so thanksfor no problem.
Oh yeah, I'm not going to watch.It it's not like it was
something worth watching anyway.Yeah, I mean, and, but it's like

(01:20:28):
I tried to watch Total Recall. Absolute trash.
I couldn't watch it. I mean, they even they even
read. I mean, I don't know if it's a
sequel or whatever, but Tron. Yes.
Tron thought it bombed in the box office.
First of all, anything with Jared Leto in it has not.
He hasn't done a good movie in awhile.

(01:20:50):
So I saw Morbius. I thought that movie was trash.
I mean, his last good movie was Dallas Buyers Club and he won an
Academy Award for that. Everything he's done since then
went downhill. So.
But I, I, I find that as much asI love watching movies, I find
that, I mean, and there's some movies that I, I still haven't

(01:21:12):
seen the Superman movie. I still haven't seen one battle
after it. Was all right it.
Was it wasn't bad. There there's a handful of
movies I have not seen, but the ones that I was able to catch,
I'm like, OK, that that's a goodmovie.
But I kind of feel like, I mean,it's either Hollywood is running

(01:21:33):
out of idea and I'm not talking about, I'm talking about
mainstream Hollywood is like running out of ideas and they're
recycling garbage. But when you look at independent
movies, I kind of feel like, oh,they're on to something.
You know, they're they're makingoriginal content.
They're they're thinking outsidethe box.

(01:21:53):
And those are the movies that I would go out to go.
See. For the most part, some of the
stuff that's coming out, you know, first of all, romantic
comedies, Gross. Shouldn't.
Even be. Shouldn't even legally be a
genre, but. I.
I fucking. Like them are too bad.
And then I mean, that's not necessarily.

(01:22:14):
My. Genre.
Either any. Guy, any guy that went to go see
a ROM com movie saw it with the chick.
They didn't go see it by themselves.
They were trying to get some assand a girl wanted to go see that
movie and they were like, yeah, I saw How to Lose a guy in 10
days, but it was. And when somebody tells me that
a dude tells me that I'm like, OK, what was her name?

(01:22:35):
And did you score though That's going to that's whenever a guy
tells drags, but he saw ROM com.I'm like, OK, Fast forward to
the part where she made you breakfast in the morning.
Other than that, you saw ROM comand you might as well be gay or.
When they call it the gay trap, Gay trap, you saw it by
yourself. Or with the gap.
I mean, those are the kind of movies I, I, I would say that

(01:22:58):
guys will watch at home on Netflix by themselves when
nobody else is around. And they, they, there's no
proof. There's no way they can prove
that they watched it by themselves.
OK, OK, Guilty. OK, I.
Can say, I mean, I mean Adam, I mean Adam Sandler's career is
full of Rob comps. And actually, Adam Sandler

(01:23:19):
hasn't surprisingly done some decent movies.
His later movies were actually probably better than his
earlier. Movies.
Oh my God, please tell me which one please his later.
Movies. That he's done.
I actually, you know what? I actually enjoyed what was the

(01:23:43):
you know which one I just. I don't know.
I I wasn't with you. I don't know what you're
talking. About Adam Sandler's body of
work is completely horseshit. I'm sorry, Billy Madison, I
never. Liked Billy I.
Just no. No, I can't.
I can't. I can't.
Let. You say this.
No, come on, man. The wedding.
I can't, let's say that. It's OK.

(01:24:06):
I would like to say my first. One Lil Mickey in my.
In my kids, I like a lot of good.
Movies. OK, Happy Gilmore is probably my
is actually my favorite Adam Sandler movie.
But but here's the thing, he's got more trash and he has good
movies. OK, little Nikki wasn't a fan.

(01:24:28):
Billy Madison, I thought. I feel Dumber every time I watch
Billy Madison. I'm sorry.
Come on, It's supposed to be a it's supposed to be.
It's not supposed to be a serious like movie.
He he doesn't do serious movies like you're.
Absolutely. Right, Drew, And I'm.
Gonna do serious movies. And I'm not discounting that,
but at the same time it's like he purposely.

(01:24:51):
Hotel Transylvania. Those are his best ones.
I like that movie. I like Hotel Transylvania.
I like his voice over. He I think he's great at voice
overs you over. Was a good movie.
Oh my God. OK, Did you?
Did you? Over. 8 Crazy Nights was a good
one. 8 crazy nights is good. I liked 8 crazy nights.

(01:25:13):
You got Big Daddy. That was a good one.
Good movie. OK.
All right, but we already explained that you don't like
ROM. Com so.
I'm. So I'm going there.
Was there was this? There was this one that he did
big scene where he's at the the Knicks, Madison Square Garden by

(01:25:39):
himself. Oh.
I can't even. And he and he's a coach.
He teaches. Pixels was a great movie.
I actually enjoyed Pixels OK. I wouldn't say necessarily
great, but it was good. Blended was OK.

(01:26:01):
We watched that way too often onthe damn cruise.
You stopped drinking, right? Yeah, the Jack and Jill was just
complete ass. I I that that should have ruined
Al Pacino's career. Anger management was good with
Jack Nicholson. OK, yeah, it was.
That was so so I could watch that movie again.

(01:26:24):
I liked anger management. Hey, remember that movie
Bulletproof with Damon Wayne's trash?
Mr. Deeds, I liked that one. Yeah, there's.
A lot of shit. That's the one.
Mr. Deeds was kind of meh. Yeah, that was terrible.
I just, I, I just think that hisbody of work is, I give it AD
it's not that great. He's done a shit ton of movies.

(01:26:48):
Though he has, I mean. I mean, I kind of a grab come
through with Jamal. He has more bad ones than good
ones, but he has good ones. Yeah, he.
Has more bad ones. No, he.
He. He does have some good ones.
I mean like if I had an Adam Sandler collection it would
probably be made-up of five movies out of his entire
collection. Like 51st Dates I thought was a

(01:27:10):
good movie. I like 51st dates and that's a
that's a ROM com but. It's it.
It looks. Like a ROM com with A twist.
I thought 51st Dates was and it was a really good movie.
That's probably my I would say that that's my top five favorite
ROM com and that if I was to sayso, that movie would be on my

(01:27:31):
list. I've actually recently watched
it for the second time and I waslike, Oh yeah, this movie is
good. What I would change in that
movie is I'll take Rob Schneiderout of it.
But nonetheless, Rob Schneider doesn't ruin the movie
completely. And then, yeah, so and then I
saw grown-ups. I thought grown-ups was a fun

(01:27:51):
movie. grown-ups was one of those movies where it's like, it
kind of reminds me of how my book shows.
It's like, look, I'm going to doa good show.
I'm going to get my friends and we're going to hang out and
we're going to just do shows. And that's what I kind of felt
that was. I didn't think it was terrible.
I didn't think it was great. I just think he wanted to do a
movie with his friends, which is.
Why I liked it? I think because you could tell

(01:28:13):
that they were friends. The people that were on stage
were friends. He did do a movie, The most
recent one with. Well, I don't know.
If it's the most recent, it was 2014.
It was with well blended Drew. Yeah, with Drew Barrymore.
Blended. Which I thought was OK, it
wasn't horrible. I like the wedding I I like the
wedding singer was what was was better.

(01:28:35):
I've had people tell me that I should watch Uncut.
Gems. Oh God no I could not and.
I've. Never been so angry after
watching a movie. I mean, why were?
You mad that you lost? So much time in your life.
Yeah, I, I. Specifically, remember telling

(01:28:56):
you not to watch it. Do not watch it.
Do not waste your time. We.
We never even got. Through it, it was so.
Horrible. People were telling me.
People were telling me Adam Sandler was going to win an
Academy. It was going to get nominated
for that role. I'm like, OK, I sat down, I
watched it and I was like, what?I'm like 45 minutes into the

(01:29:18):
movie. I'm like when does it get good?
That's. What we do you missed.
The best part was the credits. Uncut Gems was terrible and I
and and the whole time I'm watching this movie, I kept
telling myself Adam Sandler deserves better.

(01:29:39):
Now here's the thing. Reign over me.
That was a good movie with him and Don Cheadle.
I liked that movie, but I think Adam Sandler, I love it when he
act in his serious roles. His.
Serious roles are a lot better than his comedies.
I think his comedies are lazy and low hanging fruit for the
most part with the exception of 51st dates which I thought was

(01:30:03):
genius. But when he's played serious
roles, I like his serious role. I, I, I think he's AI think he's
a better actor than he allows himself to be.
Yeah, I think so too. I think, you know, because he
tries to be, he tries to be funny, right?
Like he. Like funny people, I thought he

(01:30:25):
was good at that. I think I've.
Never seen it. I was just looking at that.
I don't think I've seen. Funny, I've never seen that
movie. He's.
I went and watched it with a bunch of comedians and I like
the movie. The only problem with it is Judd
Apatow. When he writes movies he
overwrites and the movie is 2 hours long.
That movie is maybe half hour too long.

(01:30:50):
Wow. But it's a good movie, though.
I think there's some, there's a lot of scenes that they should
have cut from that movie, but nonetheless, it's like half and
half. It's the first hour's comedy and
the second hour it's dramedy. So, but Adam Sandler didn't
really have to act because I'm like, oh, this is how I picture

(01:31:12):
Adam Sandler, like in his prime,like maybe after Saturday Night
Live when he, you know, was a big shot.
But I thought it was a good movie.
I, I there's a lot of relatable stuff in that movie as far as
like the in the comedy world. So there's a couple of movies on
here that I have not seen. There's one that's called The

(01:31:36):
Cobbler. That movie is bad too.
That's bad. That movie is bad.
OK. Good, I won't even worry about
it. And then?
I was curious, that's why I watched.
It I was going to say Uncut Gemsis just horrendous.

(01:31:57):
And then there's a new one called J Kelly.
You've never seen. And how?
Is it? I don't think it's out yet, Is
it? It's it's a brand new one.
Yeah, it's from 2025 out. So Buddy came out.

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On an unexpectedly profound. Journey, that's what he's on.
His Netflix run. His Netflix run ain't.
Yeah, he's got. To do it, he's got to do with
Netflix where he's got, he's gotto like make a bunch of movies
for Netflix. He's done a lot of Netflix
movies and some of them were notOh, horrible.
And then, like I said, there's two on here that just make me

(01:32:43):
want to throw up. Even here in the the the name of
was Hooby Halloween. Oh, it was horrible.
That was terrible. Oh my God his worst movie.
Uncut Gems was horrible. I haven't even watched this one
and just the previews of it mademe just go no you are so not

(01:33:05):
invited to my bat mitzvah bat mitzvah, not even bar mitzvah
bat mitzvah. I was like.
Murder mystery was the first onewas OK, the second one was.
I fell asleep watching the firstone.
I don't know if it's because. I don't know if it's because.
I think Jennifer Aniston is not that great of an act.

(01:33:26):
Every time I see Jennifer Aniston I feel like I see the
same character she plays in every single fucking movie.
You know what the that's what she's known for.
She's known for. Like people say that about
Jennifer Aniston is that every single movie she did, she's just
playing Rachel from Friends. She's just playing and you don't
know 'cause you haven't seen Friends.

(01:33:46):
So no. No, I know that I know of you
know of the character. But you haven't seen Friends, so
you don't know the character. I've seen episodes of Friends, I
just haven't sat down and watched the full season because,
you know, I don't feel like jamming a screwdriver in my ear.
So. But it's actually Romeo will

(01:34:07):
tell you before me, he was actually he got hooked on it
from I did I. Did I?
Did I had a job and and at my job, they used to watch TV at my
job. So and so the girl I was working
with, she would put this put friends on every fucking day.

(01:34:28):
And it took me, it took me a fewepisodes to get into it.
But after, you know, after probably four or five episodes,
I was fucking hooked. Oh my God, that shit put friends
on. It's it's time for friends to
come on. Yeah, I I love.
Friends. I think I.
Actually, you know, it's actually very good.

(01:34:51):
It's actually a very good. Show.
The first time I've watched multiple episodes of Friends, I
flew into Oregon for a show and this girl let me stay at her
place. This girl that we kind of had a
crush on each other. So I stayed at her place and

(01:35:16):
after we did our thing, right when we're right when we were
finished, like right when we were done, she turns on the TV
and she was like and and and friends like the theme song is
playing, like she had timed her orgasm or when the show was
coming on TBSI believe it was. And she was like, Oh, I remember

(01:35:41):
you saying you never watch friends.
Here's your opportunity. And I was like, I'm not even
like 5 seconds away from like, like appreciating, appreciating,
you know, like when you have an orgasm, you kind of want to,
like, you kind of want to just. Fast.
In a moment. I didn't even have a chance to

(01:36:01):
do that. It was almost like I had a dry
run and then she turns on friends and she's like cuddling
with me and I'm just like. I knew you was weak and you
wasn't going nowhere. Like friends, friends was her
cigarette. You know, like.
Afterwards, you know. What I'm saying and I'm like OK

(01:36:24):
at least let me go to the bathroom and clean up.
She didn't care she's like no let's just Nestle in this
whatever so I watched that night.
I watched 3 episodes of Friends before I and then she was like,
oh are you still awake? You want to watch the 4th one?
I'm like OK, let's watch the 4th.
So 3 1/4 episode of Friends before I passed out.

(01:36:50):
I'm surprised I didn't pass out after the first episode, but
nonetheless, this was like episode season 7 and there were
Yeah, so. Yeah.
Season Sevens taking it real deep into it, you know, the
characters, you know, I think that the earlier seasons, the

(01:37:11):
characters were so much better. I think that for, for me, the
character of Monica, I don't like the way they, they at the
towards the end, how they developed her character to be
real whiny and stuff. I really liked her character in
the beginning. She was a much more independent
kind of character. And she was I, I, I really liked

(01:37:34):
her character from the beginning, but they developed
her into, yeah, more of a neurotic kind of character.
And, you know, it's got to be hard though.
You've got all these characters,you've got to develop them.
Like we were watching Mom, right?
We watched all the seasons of Mom and the last season Anna

(01:37:59):
Farah was no longer in like likeone of the main characters.
They just wrote her off the show.
And I thought, you know, I did some digging.
I was like, why did they why didthey take her off the show?
That doesn't make any sense. And they said because she did
not feel that her character development had gone anywhere,

(01:38:25):
she was playing the same character.
She got tired of it. There was no character
development. And that's why she wanted to go
move on to other things, which Ican see that.
I mean, if you're like year after year after year, I guess
you get tired of all that boatload of money and all the
the notoriety and people know, you know, hey, you know, you're

(01:38:45):
on. But yeah, I mean, if, if the
character doesn't go anywhere, you know, So I guess that that's
what they had to kind of do withfriends.
They had to take those characters somewhere, whether
they were I, I, I don't, and still keeping them comedies and
still keeping them funny and. I mean, you, you definitely have
to make sure that, I mean, again, you got to think of

(01:39:07):
ratings, you got to think about,you know, all that.
But you know, yeah, character development is, I mean, you
don't, again, you don't want thesame, you know, so, but you
know, going back to Jennifer Aniston, it's like, I've seen a
lot of Jennifer Aniston movies and it's like, I could close my
eyes and recognize Jennifer Aniston's voice and it's like,
OK, I could, I could see how flat she's.

(01:39:29):
I don't, I've never seen her like, you know, I've never seen
her play different characters. You know, like Meryl Streep
plays different characters. You know what I'm saying, Glenn.
Close. Plays different Angela Bassett
plays different characters. Jana.
Davis. You know this completely.

(01:39:51):
Totally, Yeah. Geena Davis is one of the best
actors boss there. And, and I think that that's one
of those things that that makes a really good actor is just
that. It may be the same person, but
they will never get typecast because they play something so
extremely different and they're not afraid just to really

(01:40:13):
stretch their their chops to be able to do something completely
and totally different. Yeah, and, and I don't see that
with Jennifer Aniston like, you know, even.
And, and The thing is, I had a conversation with somebody like
I love Sandra Bullock, but I think she's in a lot of terrible
movies. I think she sucks at picking
movies but I I like her. Her movies are horrible.

(01:40:35):
I mean. Yeah, she's, you know, she's
kind of hit or miss. Her movies are.
And I love, I love Sandra Bullock, love her work when
she's good. But there's other movies that
you watch and you're like, Oh myGod, yeah.
We just watch party watch. The plus the.
Month Choose this film. What made you like, Were you
broke or were you high when you agreed to doing this?

(01:40:56):
Oh. You need a new manager?
What the hell? Yeah, like we we watched the
movie. She did premonition and just
last my. God, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. That was a waste.
That was bad. It was a weird ass movie.
Yeah, it was a weird ass movie, but you know, she.

(01:41:18):
Did do she did do a good movie on Netflix called, but it was
called Unforgivable. Like that movie was good.
She was good in that. But like you said, she's hit or
miss. You know, there's some movies
where I'm like, oh, this is a fun Sandra Bullock movie that I
might like. And then there's some where I'm
just like Sandra Bullock. Why, You're too good, Miss

(01:41:41):
Congeniality one and two, I'm sorry you're too good for those
movies. Should have let Reese.
Witherspoon do those movies that's like.
You know that. You know.
You know, but The Heat with Melissa McCarthy, I thought that
was a good movie. She.
She does some good. Movies, but then I think her
good. Movies.

(01:42:03):
Are outweighed by her bad movies.
So sometimes like, you know, I talk about like actresses or
actors, body of work. And I'm like, Sandra Bullock's
body of work is not that great. Jennifer Aniston's body of work
not that great. You know, and it's like, and
they're, you know, Sandra Bullock, I believe is an yeah,

(01:42:24):
she's an Academy Award winner. But it's just like, I think she
just wants to work and she just does these movies just to stay
relevant. I'm like, you don't have to do
that. You were great in Crash.
I loved you in Crash. You played a different character
in Crash. But again, she plays different
characters in in in a lot of hermovies.

(01:42:44):
But like, Crash should have beenthat movie where she's like,
hey, no more fucking ROM coms for me.
I'm going to start doing seriousroles that people care about.
Let let Jennifer Aniston do those, do those things.
Oh yeah, God. Yeah, yeah.
All righty, is it time? It is time.

(01:43:05):
Well we've been talking about movies all day so now we about
to switch it up to things we have been binge watching this
week. Yeah, yeah.
So. Andrew, we'll let Jamal go 1st
and then because we always like to give our guests an idea of

(01:43:25):
what we talk about. So what have you been binge
watching? So I have been binge watching, I
just finished, I think since last week, six seasons of South
Park, yeah. That's a lot of.

(01:43:45):
South Park. Yeah, it's a lot of South Park.
It's a lot of free time on my hands and it's on Paramount
Plus, so luckily I could download it and watch it on the
train, watch like 4 episodes on a train by the time I get to
work. So South Park, how I'm on season
3 of How I Met Your Mother. That's good.

(01:44:08):
Yeah, it's getting better. I'm starting to get the hang of
it. I'm on season 3 of my top five
favorite sitcom, Taxi. Fucking.
Love that show love that show Taxi I am watching there is
another show that I started watching.

(01:44:31):
Oh I'm watching season 2 of lethal weapon.
Man, I I kind of wish they wouldbring that show back, but I can
see why they they did not do it.But yeah, lethal Weapons and
yeah, those, those are the showsas of now that I am that I am

(01:44:51):
binge watching. OK.
Andrew. OK, I've got to go up.
I am on. I'm starting to go into season 7
of Shameless. Yeah, I've been, I've been, I've
been binge watching that. I am.
I'm close to the end of How I Met Your Mother.

(01:45:13):
I'm on season 8. I just started watching The
boys. I'm on season 2 right now.
Oh. That's great.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, that's that's I just
started watching that show. My friends talk about that
non-stop. So I was like, all right, let me
let me give it a shot. You like it.
I'm really liking it though. I'm really liking it.

(01:45:36):
I'm almost to the end I'm re watching Game of Thrones.
I'm on season 5. And what else have I been
watching? I can't say that's yeah, that's
that's there's one more than there's one more show.

(01:46:00):
Ozark. Yes, Ozark on Netflix.
Oh yeah. OK, so we have been watching Big
Bang Theory. Yeah.
We went to the movies this last.We went to the movies the other
day and went and seen the new Predator Badlands.

(01:46:20):
Yeah. You know, that was an
interesting. Predator Badlands was, you know,
it's, it's some for you guys to view.
And we won't. We won't.
Yeah, I'm not. We're not going to give anybody
anything. On it, the one thing, OK, I'll
just say one thing about it. I am going to say one thing
about that that movie Predator Badlands is that when we went,

(01:46:42):
it was Sunday evening like 6:00 PM and there was a bunch of
families with kids and. 1. One of the things that I'm going
to say is just that when the Predator speaks or the
Predators, whenever they speak, they speak like all the other
movies. You hear the clicking and the

(01:47:03):
noises and shit and then you have to read what they're
saying. So if you're taking, if you're
somebody who's a slow reader or you don't like to read a lot,
this is not a movie for you to watch.
And it sure as hell is not something to take kids to
because you're going to have to read everything to them, you
know? And so very distracting for.

(01:47:25):
For them. But in in hindsight of all of
that, whenever they were talking, it was just one
sentence. It wasn't like it was a
paragraph. Yeah, I mean, it was like one.
It was like one line. It was like one line work.
Then you have, you know, and then another sentence, and then
another sentence. Right.
So it wasn't like you have to read 33 rows of line, you know,

(01:47:47):
Because sometimes they don't give you enough time to read it,
you know? But it's like, you know?
Overall I think, well I'm a fastreader so I think they gave
plenty of time to read. Yeah, they did.
I mean, most of the shit was like, Father, please, don't you
know some shit like that? Yeah, but I think it's something
like you take a kid, you take like great school age kids,

(01:48:09):
they're going to get bored. They're not going to read all
that. They're just not so.
But it was interesting. It was an interesting and we'll
talk about it some other day after it's been out for a long
time and I can kind of tell my full.
Yeah, my brother, my brother went and saw it and he gave it a
3 1/2 out of five, which for himthat that.

(01:48:30):
That that's a very fair assumption.
I think so that's a very fair. Assumption.
Yeah, I would agree with that. It wasn't bad, it wasn't great,
but you know it was. I didn't walk out of there
going. I can't believe we wasted all
that money on that. Yeah.
Although I will admit, I will admit I did fall asleep for a
few minutes because I was like, I don't know, Romeo had to wake

(01:48:55):
me up nudge, because I guess I started kind of like a little
bit of soft snoring and he had to nudge me to wake me up.
So because it was kind of boring, but it it was not what I
had. It was not at all what I
expected. I guess I had expectations for
it and it it didn't meet those expectations.

(01:49:16):
It's exactly what I expected. Yeah, nothing like I expected.
I didn't expect, you know, I, you know, they hyped these
things up after they've done 1515 of them, you know, because
because the Predator line is probably there's 8 movies out
there, there's like 8 of them. OK.
And so with that being said, when you start making these

(01:49:41):
extensions to these movies, theystart to trail off and they
they're, they're, they're, they're grasping that straws.
For, for, for. More let me see storyline.
Storyline. Yeah.
So, yeah. So everything, everything is
everything is this is before this happened, this before this
happened, and this is before that happened.

(01:50:01):
I feel like they took. Origin story and maybe even a
double origin. Story, necessarily an origin
story, I think that they took the character of the predator
and created a sideline story completely and totally unlike
anything that I'd seen in in themovie.
So that's kind of how, but that's I guess that's the best

(01:50:24):
way that I can put it so. But that's what we have.
Been well, We started watching Cougar Town again and then we
started watching. Superstore.
Superstore, that's what we've been with.
Have you seen Superstore, Jamal?I have yet to see it, but it is
it is on that list. So whenever we down the line,

(01:50:48):
probably the beginning of next year.
I'm super excited though. I'm super, super excited because
Season 2 Land Man comes out nextweek and I'm so excited.
Hell yeah, Kate, wait, I'm if you.
Have not seen land man Andrew watch land man.
Where Where is it coming? Where is it?

(01:51:10):
Come on, Fairmont, OK. Oh, with Billy.
Bob Yeah, yeah, I got, I got Paramount watch.
Man, you will not be disappointed.
Oh my God, we've watched the entire series 3530.
We've watched I've. Never watched any series 3
times. We've watched it three times.
It's so good and. Every time I.

(01:51:30):
It's not a comedy, but it's. Not a comedy.
It's so funny though. It's.
An that's what makes it so perfect.
It's an action. Which?
And Oh my God, Billy Bob Thornton was born to play this
role. So so we're we're Taylor
Sheridan fans after after we watched.

(01:51:52):
Yellowstone. After we watched Yellowstone and
we watched a bunch of his, his movies of all of his, of all of
his, of all of his series that he's had out there.
Land Man is #1. So.
OK. Then #1 on my watch list.
Oh God. Hands down, hands down #1 watch
it, you will not be disappointed.

(01:52:13):
Yeah. There's a.
Lot of really good action and you're still laughing your ass
off like you can't believe half the shit that's coming out of
these characters now. Oh my God, I cannot believe they
just fucking said that. Oh my God, I would shit bricks.
You know, it's, it's hilarious. That's so fucking funny, yeah.
Dialogue is well, the, the the dialogue is definitely like

(01:52:36):
good. Like it's very on point.
Yeah. But like you sometimes, Billy
Bob Thornton, this was, he was born to play this role for sure.
Yeah, Yes, he was. So good on this role, it's
unbelievable. So the next season starts next
week. I'm so excited.
Yeah, Tulsa King, he, he got me watching Tulsa King and the new

(01:53:00):
season just dropped and so they dropped like 5 episodes and then
now we're dropping one a week. So we've been watching that one.
And I don't know, he's probably gonna just because how much I
love Taylor Sheridan, I will probably actually watch Mayor of
Kingstown. Is really good.
It's another Taylor Sheridan, but and I you know, I I sit

(01:53:24):
there and look every week who wrote the episode and what it
was based on and land Man was actually written based on a
podcast that and the guy co-authors it with with Taylor
Sheridan. He who Co writes it and it was
based off of his podcast and he had to actually, you know,
because it's like working in theoil field.

(01:53:46):
So it's kind of based on that stuff.
But yeah, it's so good. But like Tulsa King, every week
is a different writer on the show, so it's kind of
interesting to see who all the different writers are on it.
Yep. But that's been that.
That's been, well, we've been binge watching, yeah.

(01:54:08):
And the movies that we've seen. So, Jamal, are we going to let
you take us out? Well, before we do that, you
know, we've had our guest here, Andrew Durant, on the show.
He also has podcasts as well. Andrew, let our listeners know
where they can find you and talkabout your podcast.

(01:54:29):
Oh yeah. So so we also have so I have my
so we have our sports sports podcast out out of shape All
Stars. You can catch us on.
You can catch on Apple, Apple, Google podcast, pretty much
pretty much anywhere you can getpodcasts like we have we're on

(01:54:49):
Spotify, Google, we're on YouTube.
And yeah, and that's that's our sports.
We talk about every everything sports for that for that week.
So yeah, every we, we on every Thursday.
My my friend usually drops it around 1:00 every Thursday.
So yeah. All right.

(01:55:12):
And is that the other one? Or do you do another one?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm forgetting because I just,
I, I really just like joined that podcast like about like a
couple months ago. So it's going to be another
shitty opinion podcast. Basically that's our like that's
like basically like a lifestyle podcast, like like covering,

(01:55:37):
like covering like stuff like anentertainment that we do more
like throughout the week. And that's, and that's on every
Friday that, that my friend drops around every Friday.
Another shitty opinion podcast. A second opinion.
You can see. He's a he's a podcast.
Extraordinary, dear. Thank you.

(01:56:02):
Well, thank you so much for for taking your time to be on a
third one this week, to be with us on not about you.
We've enjoyed having you, and you'll probably never look at
Jamal the same ever again. I'll look at Jamal the same
either I'm not. Yeah, I like him the same.
He's he's the same Jamal. Now when I look at him, I I

(01:56:27):
think about that sheep or that or that baboon.
He he wants to scratch him. Oh I will never wear a sweater
again, Oh my. God.
Being said, before I start getting nightmares before going
to sleep, I'm going to sign us off.
Ladies and gentlemen, that has been our podcast.

(01:56:48):
And boy, if you heard the 1st 30minutes of it and are offended
by it, Please remember, first ofall, it's just jokes.
Stop, stop Nina, we'll see. But second of all, it's also not
about you. And with that being said.
Goodbye everybody. We have peace.