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Carlene (00:05):
Hi, I'm Carlene and this is Not Mag Nation.
It's a new year and I have withme my friend and also my
co-host, since we did a littleconversation in the summer.
Hi, Caron, Hi, how are you?
Kerron (00:24):
I'm well.
How are you doing?
Carlene (00:25):
I'm doing well.
Thanks for asking so.
Kerron (00:28):
Happy new year, happy new year, happy new year yeah,
happy belated, you know thankyou, thank you, yeah, in the
season of it yes, the season.
Carlene (00:37):
Do you follow astrology ?
Do you care for that stuff?
Are you like I'm a Capricorn,like through and through?
Kerron (00:43):
well, I, I am a Capricorn but, like I guess,
follow it like religiously, notreligiously, but I will sort of,
you know, take in some of the Iguess you want to call it
Capricorn antics or whatever.
You know, you know somepersonalities.
I should say yeah, yeah, yeah.
Carlene (01:02):
So do you think that your personality traits are that
of a Capricorn?
Kerron (01:07):
yeah, I do yeah, okay, okay.
Carlene (01:11):
So, for those who are Capricorns, what's the
personality trait of a Capricorn?
Kerron (01:16):
uh, sort of just stick to your lane.
You don't really lots ofoverthinking or thinking of like
three or four steps ahead, sortof a thing, all of that okay,
so what do you plan ahead?
I would say I think ahead.
Carlene (01:30):
I don't think I properly plan ahead but you do
think ahead okay okay, yeah,yeah, yeah okay, so you're
organized that way, like youalways think about things in the
future yeah yeah, yeah, oh,okay, okay, I like that.
So the reason you're on todayis we're going to be talking
about Grenada.
(01:50):
I mean the show's about Grenada, and I haven't been in a minute
, but I know you recently went.
Yes, who did you fly with?
Kerron (02:00):
I actually got a really good deal with Canadian Airline.
I don't know if I should saytheir name.
I don't know how your sponsoris going.
Carlene (02:06):
Oh, right right.
Kerron (02:08):
Let's not say the name.
Carlene (02:10):
You know what, With all this talk of like airlines
overcharging, did they chargeyou for your no?
Kerron (02:17):
no, actually, I actually got a really good deal.
I actually went down for about$650.
Carlene (02:23):
Oh my gosh, that is a really good deal.
That's like what.
Kerron (02:28):
I know because my mother went down as well, seeing
basically the same time with adifferent airline.
She paid about $1,200.
Wow, I got a really good deal.
So you know I can't complain.
Carlene (02:39):
Yeah, no, I wouldn't complain either, because I mean
normally that kind of price islike when you go in slow season,
because a lot of people like togo down for Christmas or during
the holidays, right, so howlong were you there for?
Kerron (02:54):
Just a week.
Carlene (02:55):
And where do you normally stay when you're in
Grenada?
Kerron (02:58):
St Andrews.
Carlene (02:59):
St Andrews.
Ok, I don't know much about StAndrews, so please tell me about
this lovely parish.
Kerron (03:05):
Well, country, country, country.
Carlene (03:09):
Oh, okay, okay, Okay, so you're in the country.
Are you close to Bathway Beach?
Is it close to it?
Kerron (03:14):
No, no, I'm more.
I think the closest beach I amis probably Paradise.
Carlene (03:19):
Oh, ooh Paradise.
Kerron (03:21):
How's that beach it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's
okay, it's okay, yeah, yeah.
Carlene (03:24):
Okay.
Do you go there when you visitor like when you go to Grenada?
What?
Kerron (03:30):
do you do?
This time?
I did not go.
I actually just went to Grenadaand speech at this time.
Carlene (03:34):
You were there to visit family.
Kerron (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, we'll take care of some family stuff and
just see different parts of theisland at the same time.
Carlene (03:45):
Or see different parts of the island at the same time,
or revisit the parts I shouldsay visit right parts that you
haven't been to.
So how long has it been since?
Kerron (03:49):
you've been to granada, I want to say three, four years,
three years, three years okay,okay, oh.
Carlene (03:54):
So it's not too long since you've been.
For, for those who have notbeen or who haven't been in a
few years, how has Grenadaprogressed?
Remember, like we're we're alittle like when it comes to
everyday life, technology andsimple living.
What do you say to someone whohasn't been to the island of
(04:20):
Grenada?
Like, you know what I mean.
Like it's a small island, lotsof lovely beaches, parishes,
very peaceful living.
But you know what I mean.
Like it's a small island, lotsof lovely beaches, parishes,
very peaceful living.
Kerron (04:27):
But you know that's a good question.
So I would say it hasn'tprogressed in leaps and bounds
in terms of technology that yousee.
But what I do like now is thatmost places that you go now you
basically you can get wifi ifyou're, if you're someone who
doesn't like, maybe get a SIMcard from down there or anything
like that.
So that's that's a progressionin itself, because I remember
(04:51):
years ago maybe five, six yearsago, when I went, you weren't
getting that, even at theairport.
You would get maybe a littlebit of it at some places you'd
have to pay or whatever the caseis, but that's not the case now
.
So I think in that sense thereis more accessibility across the
island with wi-fi and stuff,and they've got a lot more stuff
in terms of apps and whatnot,or at least web-based stuff,
(05:13):
like they've got their ownversion of uber eats no way yeah
, yeah, but it's only I thinkit's only available in like the
St George's or the more like thetouristy areas and stuff like
that.
But yeah, they've got that, sothey've come some ways, but not
like, obviously not like here.
I think my main beef with likeCaribbean in general, or some
(05:37):
countries, I should sayespecially particularly Trinidad
, and I noticed it this time inGrenada too, it's like customer
service, because it's not good,it sucks, it's really bad.
If you're looking at say hey,yeah, to compare it to, I guess,
north America, it's not reallyand you got to like wait really
long for mostly everything.
Carlene (05:58):
So when you say customer service, are we talking
about the service when you areat the airport waiting through
customs, or when you're orderingsomething to eat at a
restaurant or what that?
Kerron (06:09):
yeah, oh, all of it, oh I had a good example, as I was
at the airport coming back and,um, you know you, basically they
call you over once you get tothe counter to come over.
So I'm first in line, I'mwaiting and the girl's just
looking and I'm like, am Icoming or am I not going?
So she eventually decides towave me, so I come.
She just doesn't say anything.
(06:31):
I'm like, so what am I doing?
You know, because you have tosay, hey, give me your passport,
whatever the case is.
So I give her the passport,yeah, and then she does
everything and then that's it.
She didn't say anything else.
Carlene (06:41):
I'm like are you good to go?
Kerron (06:44):
yeah, yeah.
Basically, I was like is thereanything else?
And she's like no.
I'm like okay.
So that's another example.
Like you know, there's nocourtesy, yeah, there's no
manners.
Manners or courtesy, like, andthat's something that's sad
because that's something you,you got like hammered into you
as a kid when you're growing upthere, right.
Carlene (06:59):
So yeah, no.
And and was she younger?
Older like what do you thinklike new generation or what?
Kerron (07:05):
probably say mid-30s, 40s, I don't know oh okay, wow.
Carlene (07:10):
So how did you like I mean you kind of wrapped it up
or you had to like ask questions, like I mean, what is going on?
Kerron (07:17):
yeah, yeah, no, I have to ask questions.
I'll be like yo, you done, orbecause I'm just standing here.
You gave you the stuff andshe's just not doing any eye
contact or anything.
So you know, not actually giveme the stuff, that she sort of
put it to the side right that'sjust an example.
You go different places.
It all depends on where you goto, I think, but most places
that you know if you're orderingfood, it's a long way oh my god
(07:41):
, it's a long way.
I was.
What is it I want to say what?
10 people in line at KFC.
It probably took about 45minutes for me to order what.
Carlene (07:54):
With 10 people in line.
Yeah, how about that?
Oh, wow.
Kerron (07:57):
And 10 people is nothing .
No, that's not a lot of peopleit's not a lot of people.
No, oh my gosh, oh my god.
45 minutes to an hour to orderand then another 15 minutes to
get your food.
Carlene (08:06):
15, 20 minutes, so yeah wow, what is happening right
now.
Like, I guess, because you wereso used to things going at a
certain pace it's like what'shappening, let's go, yeah, I
mean, I think it's like.
The one thing about grenada,though, I like is when you go
down there everybody's sofriendly and they say hi, and
(08:27):
you know what I mean?
Kerron (08:28):
yeah, were you feeling that?
Yeah, that's every day, yeah,that's like, that's like the
people you walk by.
But what people in like workingtechnically, working
technically in customer service?
They're not friendly yeahthey're not friendly, like you
know.
Carlene (08:41):
So that's, and that's the sad part, I think that's
that's sort of lost and in wowand like the fact that you had
that experience at the airportthe airport's supposed to make
you feel like welcome, like youknow what I mean.
Like when I went to not tocompare anything when I went to
Bermuda, like they were reallyfriendly and they were, they
were so in tune, like I haven'tbeen to Bermuda in a long time,
(09:03):
but the first time I went wasthe first time I tried Airbnb
and the lady was like, how didyou find this Airbnb?
How did you know?
I'm like, actually I hadnothing to do with it.
My friend is the one who bookedit because, I mean, at that
time Airbnb was just up andcoming.
So the fact that my friendalready knew about it, they were
(09:23):
quite surprised because mostpeople, when you're going down
to the Caribbean, are staying ata hotel, right like yeah.
Princess Hotel is like a verypopular place.
I guess it's more expensive,but, like I guess they were
surprised that I even knew thatI could stay at an Airbnb.
You, you know what I mean.
So yeah.
But that Airbnb, let me tellyou, Keron, I wouldn't go back.
Kerron (09:47):
Why not?
Carlene (09:50):
Let's just say that the picture like you can't go and
see an Airbnb before you book it, right?
So here I am, online.
I'm like, oh my gosh, thesepictures look so good and let's
stay here.
So we booked it.
And then when we got down there, I walked in, I'm like, wow, so
it didn't look like it was allin one.
(10:11):
So basically everything was allin one.
So I walked in.
The bedroom was there, thekitchen, the shower stall was
like it was a stand in showerand it was so small.
So the way they took thepictures, they made everything
look bigger than what itactually was.
Kerron (10:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's just like when you're selling a
house, right or something, italways looks bigger yeah, yeah.
Carlene (10:37):
But I mean I was like, wait a minute, the bed is in the
living room and everything.
What Is that why I paid forthis?
No, it was just misleading.
But getting back to yourexperience in Grenada, obviously
customer service has changed.
That's disappointing, I have tosay.
Kerron (10:55):
It is especially because you got to think of it too.
I guess I don't know if thecustomer service is different if
you're not Black, because I'mBlack, so I don't know, right.
Carlene (11:06):
Right right.
Kerron (11:08):
Other than when I open my mouth.
I think I would get differentcustomers or different service
Right Personally, but I don'tknow, so I don't know what it is
for the other side.
Carlene (11:19):
That would be interesting to see.
Kerron (11:20):
Yeah, and I don't really dress up and stuff too.
I'm not acting like a touristwhen I'm down there, so I don't
know.
Carlene (11:27):
What were you wearing Like?
Were you dressed like a local?
Kerron (11:30):
Yeah, I just wear regular stuff.
I don't, I don't, I don't, waita minute.
Carlene (11:34):
So when you go back home you're not like, oh my gosh
, when I go back home I'm alllike I get all these outfits and
everything because I'm like I'mon vacation.
You don't do, do that onvacation, I don't care.
Kerron (11:50):
Wow, this is a different approach.
Wait a minute, what so you like?
You're like in your homeclothes.
Carlene (11:53):
What were you wearing?
Kerron (11:53):
shorts and a tee.
Uh, yeah, yeah.
Why do I want to stick out?
Carlene (11:57):
I don't know, but like I think, when I go, well, I
guess it's different from afemale perspective, like guys
are so different when theytravel.
Like you pack light, don't youlike?
How do you pack when you go,when you go away?
Kerron (12:11):
yeah, I gotta pack light , gotta save room for the rum
bottles that's funny, wait aminute.
Carlene (12:17):
So like how much did you pack?
Well, you only went for sixdays.
So what?
Kerron (12:21):
you only packed like a few things or what I actually
went for a full seven, basicallyseven days, because I yeah,
yeah I landed in the afternoonand I left in the afternoon,
sort of a thing.
So it's basically seven daysbut yeah, but like, yeah, just
some t-shirts and pants andstuff and shorts and swimming
yeah, yeah, but you're not likewearing.
Carlene (12:40):
You didn't buy like a few nice shirts or something.
No, what?
Kerron (12:45):
am I doing that?
Carlene (12:45):
for, wow, you're like a nomad.
Oh my goodness, you don't evenlike dress.
I would be bringing like somenice dresses if we're going out
for dinner or whatever.
You know what I mean.
Nope, you're acting like you'rehome.
Then you're not even well, Iknow you're home yeah, yeah,
okay, okay, so you're not doinglike.
(13:08):
So what if?
Ok, what if we were goingdinner in the nighttime or
something?
You wouldn't even wear a nicedress shirt, like, say, you were
going what's the name of thatrestaurant I forgot?
Maybe at the Esplanade Mall orno, not even the Esplanade I'm
trying to think of like a nicerestaurant in town.
I can't even think of anythingthat's like really.
Kerron (13:30):
But then again, again, I'm also not planning to go to
any nice restaurants.
Carlene (13:32):
I'm not down there for that, so I know you're there.
You were there to visit family,right?
Kerron (13:36):
yeah, yeah, that's it really okay, were you relaxing,
though?
Carlene (13:40):
did you get to relax when you were down there?
Kerron (13:43):
yeah, yeah, actually this is the first time when I've
been down there.
I went to just visit a bunch ofother places, like I went to
granite tank wake, I went todifferent stuff.
I went to a bunch of otherstuff because usually when I'm
down there I don't, you know ohokay, so what were the
highlights?
Uh, just spending time withlike younger family and stuff
like that.
I think that was the the betterpart like family, more my age
(14:05):
and stuff yeah, yeah and and um,I'm meeting new people.
I met some people from fromcaracoo and stuff when I was
down there oh, my goodness, wow.
Carlene (14:16):
So how was that?
You?
Did you go to caracoo, or youjust met them?
Kerron (14:19):
they're actually no, I met them.
I met them.
They're from car.
Actually.
They own one of the islands offof grenada and we were talking
they're from well, they used tolive in the UK and they're just
back now sort of helping fix uptheir home.
But they own one of the biggersize islands there north of
Grenada and we were talkingabout different stuff and they
(14:42):
were saying how bad it is stillis in Carriacou, that like there
was a big outbreak of dengueand all this other stuff, that
people people aren't really lackof a better word coming
together to help fix carriacouand I mean the local people in
carriacou they're sort of justbeing nonchalant about it right
so they're not.
They're not taking theinitiative to get up and just
fix.
They're sort of waiting on ahandout.
(15:03):
And they said they've hadpeople from from trinidad come
over to help.
They've had people, I thinkthey said from guyana as well,
that's came over and helped themwith building, rebuilding,
trying to rebuild and stuff likethat.
Yeah, but at that time theywere saying there's still houses
without roofs and all thatstuff, but the local people
they're not.
They're not taking theinitiative to get up and do it,
(15:23):
which is sad because, again,it's your home.
So take the initiative to, to,to stand up and and fix your
home and fix your neighbor'shome.
You know, because it's.
It's a small community.
Caracoo is small, like you know, so it is small.
Carlene (15:36):
I think I think I read it it's 10 000 people that live
in caracoo, like it is.
Yeah, like I mean, I can lookat, like I could just verify,
but yeah, I was just.
You know, it seemed like we wedid have a lot of people help.
Like you said, a lot of peopledid help, so let's hope.
(15:57):
I mean, I talked to someoneelse what was the artist?
His name is Slata and he saidthat he's still, they're still
dealing with a lot in caracu,right?
So it's one of those thingsthat it seems like with
everything, if they don't bandtogether, then it's going to
take longer than average, right?
Like I mean, any hurricane hasa deep impact, right?
(16:20):
So the fact that they're notbanding together, what do you
think would?
Would, would need someone wouldhave to push them to do it?
Like what do you think I?
Kerron (16:30):
have no idea.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Like, I think there's sort ofjust like, from what I
understand, they're just waitingon handouts.
Basically they're not reallysort of doing it, which is again
sad, but so it's taking therebuilding effort longer by
doing that, right.
Yeah, the rebuilding effortlonger by doing that, right,
(16:52):
yeah.
I just saw on google, as of2022, the population was 6081.
Carlene (16:54):
So, yeah, I guess, like if we're gonna get into it,
like just to talk a little bitabout what happened in caracus.
So hurricane ivan right thatthey were hit with a hurricane
like a category three hurricanein September, and I mean this is
crazy because, like you saidover from what I'm hearing, like
(17:15):
90% of the island's buildingswere damaged or destroyed, so
they're like starting from thebottom, like they have to
rebuild everything, right.
So yeah, so yeah.
Kerron (17:28):
Yeah, it's a complete rebuild from what they were
telling me and I know obviouslyfor a while they had no
electricity and stuff.
I think that's from what Iunderstand.
It's back up and running now,so yeah, yeah.
Carlene (17:41):
Yeah, I know they were out of power and everything like
that, cause my aunt was tellingme she knows a nurse that's
there and that you know theylike I mean in the summertime.
Obviously they were just tryingto get power back to begin with
, right?
Kerron (17:54):
yeah, I know, and I know I don't know how much recovery,
because apparently not evenpeople in Grenada itself know
how bad it is there, becauseit's, it's, it's again.
They're sort of isolated right.
Carlene (18:07):
So yeah, that's crazy.
Well, let's hope that this yearthings get better.
Like, I mean, september was afew months ago and I don't know
there's there's got to be someinspiration because, like you
said, it's your home, it's whereyou're coming from and like,
maybe more people from grenadaor saint George's have to go, or
(18:28):
you know, to help together andsomething like of that nature,
to help Karaku, who knows?
Yeah, so the people you weretalking to, they're rebuilding,
right, and what did they tellyou, like in terms of like how
long it's going to take them?
You know what I mean.
Like it's your house is gone.
Kerron (18:48):
Well, yeah, yeah, I think he said when I was
speaking to them there's acouple, and he was just
basically saying, where they'reobviously doing their best,
their roof and everything is hasbeen put back together.
Carlene (19:01):
Yeah.
Kerron (19:01):
For the most part.
At that time I think they saidthat I forgot the name of the
restaurant the biggerrestaurants on the island, like
the main tourist and whatnotthat that one's back up and
running, so things are slowlygetting there.
It's just that it would havebeen faster if they had put the
effort in.
Carlene (19:18):
Right, right, I don't know.
I feel like, even when Caracooside, I remember when there was
a hurricane in Grenada and thathappened, I think, in 2004.
Like, we just missed it, me andmy sister, we were down there
and then I got back, I visitedGrenada, like four years later,
(19:38):
and Caron there were someparishes, like, let's just say,
in Grand Ams, like by RiverRoadside, there, like we I went
to go visit my sister I haveanother sister, um, she lives
over there and there were stillsome areas, like I mean,
obviously they'd recover, butthere's still some houses that
you could see.
(19:59):
Oh, that's from the hurricane,you know.
So I feel like, even four years,like you could probably go back
to caracou in a few years fromnow and like you could still see
the impact, like I, I feel likeit's the people, the money, the
resources, everything like allin one, all encompassing right,
because, like, even thoughcaracou is a separate island,
(20:21):
it's still a part of grenada, soit's like the government of
Grenada to all in one.
But, like you said, it's likejust how people are, like I
guess they expect others to comeand help them.
I don't know why, but well,this is the thing.
Kerron (20:37):
Like you say, yes, the government has its
responsibility to help thepeople Right, people right.
But if, from the way Iunderstand it, if you're getting
supplies and you're being giventhe means in, by getting those
supplies, you would take theinitiative to fix your own
(20:57):
property.
That makes sense.
Yeah, and I think and I thinkthat is what's not happening
from my understanding, from theconversation, right, just right,
and like everything from peoplecomplaining, hey, you know, you
gave the free food that they'regetting to say, I don't like
this, like you're only giving merice, chicken, vegetables and
(21:19):
baked chicken.
Why can't I get like a roti orsomething like that as a free
meal?
You got a free meal, right, youknow stuff like that.
That's that's my understandingof what happened or what has did
happen yeah, I understand thatmental.
Carlene (21:33):
I understand what you're saying because that's
someone's um telling you aboutthe experience where it's like
you give them an inch, they wanta mile, kind of mentality.
Kerron (21:42):
Basically yeah.
Carlene (21:43):
Basically, yeah, yes, which is unfortunate, right,
absolutely yeah, I think it'shard.
Like, either way you take itlike it's hard as a community.
Like, do you think, like if,knock on wood, like Grenadians,
like people from Grand Anse andSt Andrew have a different
(22:05):
mentality, like versus like?
You know what I mean.
Kerron (22:08):
Like, I would say yeah.
I would say yeah yeah, I wouldsay yeah, but again, this is
what I was told.
Carlene (22:15):
Yeah, this is yeah you haven't been there to see how it
is, like I mean everyone,there's three sides to every
story and like obviously this isone person's opinion and we've
seen like the impact of it Right, and so it's hard, right,
either way it's, it's hard foranyone to recover from from
(22:38):
anything like yeah, or any, anydisaster like that yeah.
Any disaster yeah.
Kerron (22:44):
Grenada.
The Grenada fared pretty well,yeah, well, yeah, there wasn't.
There wasn't much or any damageat all, right, but did take the
brunt of it.
And I remember I think it wasright before I left too I saw a
news article pop up onlinesaying that they're still in
desperate need, and so it wasinteresting that on the way back
, when I was speaking to thatgentleman and his wife, they're
(23:04):
like they're saying they'restressing out about how bad it
is and was, and not many peopleeven know about it because life
is just happening normally.
So I think there's also a bitof awareness, or lack of
awareness with it.
That that helped combine all ofthis.
But at the same time, like Isaid, if you're not taking
responsibility to get up and fixyour home, don't expect someone
(23:26):
to do it for you, you know.
Carlene (23:27):
Yeah, yeah, and it's one of those things like you're
saying they got some resources,but who's to say everyone got
the help?
Right To get them the help,yeah, like it's hard.
Kerron (23:39):
But I mean, but for six, like six, let's say we've got
consent, that census ofapproximately 6 000 people.
For six, let's say that was2022.
Let's say you add an extra twoor, if right, round up to 10 000
.
For 10 000 people, how hard isit?
For 10 000 people, you knowthat's not a lot of people and
again, that's coming from anorth american perspective that
(23:59):
that's not a lot of people.
When you have countries liketrinidad and Guyana and the
government of Grenada helping,right, I don't think it would be
too difficult to get all ofthat sorted out.
Right.
For it to be as long as aperiod because when I went down
it was probably, I think, amonth after the hurricane, so
that came back in December.
I went down in December-ish, soI want to say or beginning of
(24:22):
December, so that I can'tremember when the hurricane was.
Carlene (24:26):
The hurricane was in September.
Kerron (24:29):
There you go.
So October, november, december,three months after you know, or
two months you know that's,that's not a lot of people.
Carlene (24:41):
Yeah, that's, on a grand scheme, that's not a lot
of people.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I mean regardless.
Maybe there's that lack ofawareness, lack of help with
certain resources, that it willtake longer than here.
Like I'm telling you because,like, even as we're talking,
we're running down.
Okay, so even me, like becauseof this this is a podcast and
(25:05):
because Grenada doesn't have thesame resources that we have
here in North America, likethere's so many more podcasts
here in Canada.
Because of the population Morepeople, more resources, more
funding and because Grenada isat a different capacity
population, there's lessresources, less funding like
(25:29):
everything is on a smaller scale.
I think even poverty is higher.
Last time I checked it was like33 percent, and so I think it's
like one of those things where,at the end of the day, it will
take longer for them to recover.
I think I, I guess, like yousaid, we're not there to see the
(25:50):
ruffle, and like even someoneelse I know is telling me he's
still helping out with it.
Kerron (25:55):
So it's crazy, right, see that's yeah, so I guess
those stories aren't far-fetchedbased on that right, but that's
also but that's also part ofthe thing, right.
It goes back to even thatcustomer service thing.
Things just take extra long inthe Caribbean.
Carlene (26:09):
They do, they do, they definitely do, for no reason.
Kerron (26:12):
For no reason, they just take extra long.
Carlene (26:14):
The fact that you oh my gosh, you were at KFC for that
long, like most people herewould be like I'm going
somewhere else for that long,like most people here would be
like.
I'm going somewhere else.
Yeah, like we're impatientbecause we're so used to things
being so fast, right?
Kerron (26:29):
Yeah, yeah, or at least some sort of haste, I should say
it doesn't even have to be fast.
You know, you don't gotta belike, eh, watch paint dry.
Just to you know, we, you don'tgot to be like watch paint dry.
Carlene (26:42):
Just to you know, we're just like it's night and day.
It really is.
Oh my goodness, thank you forlistening to Nutmeg Nation with
Carlene Humphrey.
Hi, I'm Carlene and this is Not Mag Nation.
It's a new year and I have withme my friend and also my
co-host, since we did a littleconversation in the summer.
Hi, Caron, Hi, how are you?
Kerron (00:24):
I'm well.
How are you doing?
Carlene (00:25):
I'm doing well.
Thanks for asking so.
Kerron (00:28):
Happy new year, happy new year, happy new year yeah,
happy belated, you know thankyou, thank you, yeah, in the
season of it yes, the season.
Carlene (00:37):
Do you follow astrology ?
Do you care for that stuff?
Are you like I'm a Capricorn,like through and through?
Kerron (00:43):
well, I, I am a Capricorn but, like I guess,
follow it like religiously, notreligiously, but I will sort of,
you know, take in some of the Iguess you want to call it
Capricorn antics or whatever.
You know, you know somepersonalities.
I should say yeah, yeah, yeah.
Carlene (01:02):
So do you think that your personality traits are that
of a Capricorn?
Kerron (01:07):
yeah, I do yeah, okay, okay.
Carlene (01:11):
So, for those who are Capricorns, what's the
personality trait of a Capricorn?
Kerron (01:16):
uh, sort of just stick to your lane.
You don't really lots ofoverthinking or thinking of like
three or four steps ahead, sortof a thing, all of that okay,
so what do you plan ahead?
I would say I think ahead.
Carlene (01:30):
I don't think I properly plan ahead but you do
think ahead okay okay, yeah,yeah, yeah okay, so you're
organized that way, like youalways think about things in the
future yeah yeah, yeah, oh,okay, okay, I like that.
So the reason you're on todayis we're going to be talking
about Grenada.
(01:50):
I mean the show's about Grenada, and I haven't been in a minute
, but I know you recently went.
Yes, who did you fly with?
Kerron (02:00):
I actually got a really good deal with Canadian Airline.
I don't know if I should saytheir name.
I don't know how your sponsoris going.
Carlene (02:06):
Oh, right right.
Kerron (02:08):
Let's not say the name.
Carlene (02:10):
You know what, With all this talk of like airlines
overcharging, did they chargeyou for your no?
Kerron (02:17):
no, actually, I actually got a really good deal.
I actually went down for about$650.
Carlene (02:23):
Oh my gosh, that is a really good deal.
That's like what.
Kerron (02:28):
I know because my mother went down as well, seeing
basically the same time with adifferent airline.
She paid about $1,200.
Wow, I got a really good deal.
So you know I can't complain.
Carlene (02:39):
Yeah, no, I wouldn't complain either, because I mean
normally that kind of price islike when you go in slow season,
because a lot of people like togo down for Christmas or during
the holidays, right, so howlong were you there for?
Kerron (02:54):
Just a week.
Carlene (02:55):
And where do you normally stay when you're in
Grenada?
Kerron (02:58):
St Andrews.
Carlene (02:59):
St Andrews.
Ok, I don't know much about StAndrews, so please tell me about
this lovely parish.
Kerron (03:05):
Well, country, country, country.
Carlene (03:09):
Oh, okay, okay, Okay, so you're in the country.
Are you close to Bathway Beach?
Is it close to it?
Kerron (03:14):
No, no, I'm more.
I think the closest beach I amis probably Paradise.
Carlene (03:19):
Oh, ooh Paradise.
Kerron (03:21):
How's that beach it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's
okay, it's okay, yeah, yeah.
Carlene (03:24):
Okay.
Do you go there when you visitor like when you go to Grenada?
What?
Kerron (03:30):
do you do?
This time?
I did not go.
I actually just went to Grenadaand speech at this time.
Carlene (03:34):
You were there to visit family.
Kerron (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, we'll take care of some family stuff and
just see different parts of theisland at the same time.
Carlene (03:45):
Or see different parts of the island at the same time,
or revisit the parts I shouldsay visit right parts that you
haven't been to.
So how long has it been since?
Kerron (03:49):
you've been to granada, I want to say three, four years,
three years, three years okay,okay, oh.
Carlene (03:54):
So it's not too long since you've been.
For, for those who have notbeen or who haven't been in a
few years, how has Grenadaprogressed?
Remember, like we're we're alittle like when it comes to
everyday life, technology andsimple living.
What do you say to someone whohasn't been to the island of
(04:20):
Grenada?
Like, you know what I mean.
Like it's a small island, lotsof lovely beaches, parishes,
very peaceful living.
But you know what I mean.
Like it's a small island, lotsof lovely beaches, parishes,
very peaceful living.
Kerron (04:27):
But you know that's a good question.
So I would say it hasn'tprogressed in leaps and bounds
in terms of technology that yousee.
But what I do like now is thatmost places that you go now you
basically you can get wifi ifyou're, if you're someone who
doesn't like, maybe get a SIMcard from down there or anything
like that.
So that's that's a progressionin itself, because I remember
(04:51):
years ago maybe five, six yearsago, when I went, you weren't
getting that, even at theairport.
You would get maybe a littlebit of it at some places you'd
have to pay or whatever the caseis, but that's not the case now
.
So I think in that sense thereis more accessibility across the
island with wi-fi and stuff,and they've got a lot more stuff
in terms of apps and whatnot,or at least web-based stuff,
(05:13):
like they've got their ownversion of uber eats no way yeah
, yeah, but it's only I thinkit's only available in like the
St George's or the more like thetouristy areas and stuff like
that.
But yeah, they've got that, sothey've come some ways, but not
like, obviously not like here.
I think my main beef with likeCaribbean in general, or some
(05:37):
countries, I should sayespecially particularly Trinidad
, and I noticed it this time inGrenada too, it's like customer
service, because it's not good,it sucks, it's really bad.
If you're looking at say hey,yeah, to compare it to, I guess,
north America, it's not reallyand you got to like wait really
long for mostly everything.
Carlene (05:58):
So when you say customer service, are we talking
about the service when you areat the airport waiting through
customs, or when you're orderingsomething to eat at a
restaurant or what that?
Kerron (06:09):
yeah, oh, all of it, oh I had a good example, as I was
at the airport coming back and,um, you know you, basically they
call you over once you get tothe counter to come over.
So I'm first in line, I'mwaiting and the girl's just
looking and I'm like, am Icoming or am I not going?
So she eventually decides towave me, so I come.
She just doesn't say anything.
(06:31):
I'm like, so what am I doing?
You know, because you have tosay, hey, give me your passport,
whatever the case is.
So I give her the passport,yeah, and then she does
everything and then that's it.
She didn't say anything else.
Carlene (06:41):
I'm like are you good to go?
Kerron (06:44):
yeah, yeah.
Basically, I was like is thereanything else?
And she's like no.
I'm like okay.
So that's another example.
Like you know, there's nocourtesy, yeah, there's no
manners.
Manners or courtesy, like, andthat's something that's sad
because that's something you,you got like hammered into you
as a kid when you're growing upthere, right.
Carlene (06:59):
So yeah, no.
And and was she younger?
Older like what do you thinklike new generation or what?
Kerron (07:05):
probably say mid-30s, 40s, I don't know oh okay, wow.
Carlene (07:10):
So how did you like I mean you kind of wrapped it up
or you had to like ask questions, like I mean, what is going on?
Kerron (07:17):
yeah, yeah, no, I have to ask questions.
I'll be like yo, you done, orbecause I'm just standing here.
You gave you the stuff andshe's just not doing any eye
contact or anything.
So you know, not actually giveme the stuff, that she sort of
put it to the side right that'sjust an example.
You go different places.
It all depends on where you goto, I think, but most places
that you know if you're orderingfood, it's a long way oh my god
(07:41):
, it's a long way.
I was.
What is it I want to say what?
10 people in line at KFC.
It probably took about 45minutes for me to order what.
Carlene (07:54):
With 10 people in line.
Yeah, how about that?
Oh, wow.
Kerron (07:57):
And 10 people is nothing .
No, that's not a lot of peopleit's not a lot of people.
No, oh my gosh, oh my god.
45 minutes to an hour to orderand then another 15 minutes to
get your food.
Carlene (08:06):
15, 20 minutes, so yeah wow, what is happening right
now.
Like, I guess, because you wereso used to things going at a
certain pace it's like what'shappening, let's go, yeah, I
mean, I think it's like.
The one thing about grenada,though, I like is when you go
down there everybody's sofriendly and they say hi, and
(08:27):
you know what I mean?
Kerron (08:28):
yeah, were you feeling that?
Yeah, that's every day, yeah,that's like, that's like the
people you walk by.
But what people in like workingtechnically, working
technically in customer service?
They're not friendly yeahthey're not friendly, like you
know.
Carlene (08:41):
So that's, and that's the sad part, I think that's
that's sort of lost and in wowand like the fact that you had
that experience at the airportthe airport's supposed to make
you feel like welcome, like youknow what I mean.
Like when I went to not tocompare anything when I went to
Bermuda, like they were reallyfriendly and they were, they
were so in tune, like I haven'tbeen to Bermuda in a long time,
(09:03):
but the first time I went wasthe first time I tried Airbnb
and the lady was like, how didyou find this Airbnb?
How did you know?
I'm like, actually I hadnothing to do with it.
My friend is the one who bookedit because, I mean, at that
time Airbnb was just up andcoming.
So the fact that my friendalready knew about it, they were
(09:23):
quite surprised because mostpeople, when you're going down
to the Caribbean, are staying ata hotel, right like yeah.
Princess Hotel is like a verypopular place.
I guess it's more expensive,but, like I guess they were
surprised that I even knew thatI could stay at an Airbnb.
You, you know what I mean.
So yeah.
But that Airbnb, let me tellyou, Keron, I wouldn't go back.
Kerron (09:47):
Why not?
Carlene (09:50):
Let's just say that the picture like you can't go and
see an Airbnb before you book it, right?
So here I am, online.
I'm like, oh my gosh, thesepictures look so good and let's
stay here.
So we booked it.
And then when we got down there, I walked in, I'm like, wow, so
it didn't look like it was allin one.
(10:11):
So basically everything was allin one.
So I walked in.
The bedroom was there, thekitchen, the shower stall was
like it was a stand in showerand it was so small.
So the way they took thepictures, they made everything
look bigger than what itactually was.
Kerron (10:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's just like when you're selling a
house, right or something, italways looks bigger yeah, yeah.
Carlene (10:37):
But I mean I was like, wait a minute, the bed is in the
living room and everything.
What Is that why I paid forthis?
No, it was just misleading.
But getting back to yourexperience in Grenada, obviously
customer service has changed.
That's disappointing, I have tosay.
Kerron (10:55):
It is especially because you got to think of it too.
I guess I don't know if thecustomer service is different if
you're not Black, because I'mBlack, so I don't know, right.
Carlene (11:06):
Right right.
Kerron (11:08):
Other than when I open my mouth.
I think I would get differentcustomers or different service
Right Personally, but I don'tknow, so I don't know what it is
for the other side.
Carlene (11:19):
That would be interesting to see.
Kerron (11:20):
Yeah, and I don't really dress up and stuff too.
I'm not acting like a touristwhen I'm down there, so I don't
know.
Carlene (11:27):
What were you wearing Like?
Were you dressed like a local?
Kerron (11:30):
Yeah, I just wear regular stuff.
I don't, I don't, I don't, waita minute.
Carlene (11:34):
So when you go back home you're not like, oh my gosh
, when I go back home I'm alllike I get all these outfits and
everything because I'm like I'mon vacation.
You don't do, do that onvacation, I don't care.
Kerron (11:50):
Wow, this is a different approach.
Wait a minute, what so you like?
You're like in your homeclothes.
Carlene (11:53):
What were you wearing?
Kerron (11:53):
shorts and a tee.
Uh, yeah, yeah.
Why do I want to stick out?
Carlene (11:57):
I don't know, but like I think, when I go, well, I
guess it's different from afemale perspective, like guys
are so different when theytravel.
Like you pack light, don't youlike?
How do you pack when you go,when you go away?
Kerron (12:11):
yeah, I gotta pack light , gotta save room for the rum
bottles that's funny, wait aminute.
Carlene (12:17):
So like how much did you pack?
Well, you only went for sixdays.
So what?
Kerron (12:21):
you only packed like a few things or what I actually
went for a full seven, basicallyseven days, because I yeah,
yeah I landed in the afternoonand I left in the afternoon,
sort of a thing.
So it's basically seven daysbut yeah, but like, yeah, just
some t-shirts and pants andstuff and shorts and swimming
yeah, yeah, but you're not likewearing.
Carlene (12:40):
You didn't buy like a few nice shirts or something.
No, what?
Kerron (12:45):
am I doing that?
Carlene (12:45):
for, wow, you're like a nomad.
Oh my goodness, you don't evenlike dress.
I would be bringing like somenice dresses if we're going out
for dinner or whatever.
You know what I mean.
Nope, you're acting like you'rehome.
Then you're not even well, Iknow you're home yeah, yeah,
okay, okay, so you're not doinglike.
(13:08):
So what if?
Ok, what if we were goingdinner in the nighttime or
something?
You wouldn't even wear a nicedress shirt, like, say, you were
going what's the name of thatrestaurant I forgot?
Maybe at the Esplanade Mall orno, not even the Esplanade I'm
trying to think of like a nicerestaurant in town.
I can't even think of anythingthat's like really.
Kerron (13:30):
But then again, again, I'm also not planning to go to
any nice restaurants.
Carlene (13:32):
I'm not down there for that, so I know you're there.
You were there to visit family,right?
Kerron (13:36):
yeah, yeah, that's it really okay, were you relaxing,
though?
Carlene (13:40):
did you get to relax when you were down there?
Kerron (13:43):
yeah, yeah, actually this is the first time when I've
been down there.
I went to just visit a bunch ofother places, like I went to
granite tank wake, I went todifferent stuff.
I went to a bunch of otherstuff because usually when I'm
down there I don't, you know ohokay, so what were the
highlights?
Uh, just spending time withlike younger family and stuff
like that.
I think that was the the betterpart like family, more my age
(14:05):
and stuff yeah, yeah and and um,I'm meeting new people.
I met some people from fromcaracoo and stuff when I was
down there oh, my goodness, wow.
Carlene (14:16):
So how was that?
You?
Did you go to caracoo, or youjust met them?
Kerron (14:19):
they're actually no, I met them.
I met them.
They're from car.
Actually.
They own one of the islands offof grenada and we were talking
they're from well, they used tolive in the UK and they're just
back now sort of helping fix uptheir home.
But they own one of the biggersize islands there north of
Grenada and we were talkingabout different stuff and they
(14:42):
were saying how bad it is stillis in Carriacou, that like there
was a big outbreak of dengueand all this other stuff, that
people people aren't really lackof a better word coming
together to help fix carriacouand I mean the local people in
carriacou they're sort of justbeing nonchalant about it right
so they're not.
They're not taking theinitiative to get up and just
fix.
They're sort of waiting on ahandout.
(15:03):
And they said they've hadpeople from from trinidad come
over to help.
They've had people, I thinkthey said from guyana as well,
that's came over and helped themwith building, rebuilding,
trying to rebuild and stuff likethat.
Yeah, but at that time theywere saying there's still houses
without roofs and all thatstuff, but the local people
they're not.
They're not taking theinitiative to get up and do it,
(15:23):
which is sad because, again,it's your home.
So take the initiative to, to,to stand up and and fix your
home and fix your neighbor'shome.
You know, because it's.
It's a small community.
Caracoo is small, like you know, so it is small.
Carlene (15:36):
I think I think I read it it's 10 000 people that live
in caracoo, like it is.
Yeah, like I mean, I can lookat, like I could just verify,
but yeah, I was just.
You know, it seemed like we wedid have a lot of people help.
Like you said, a lot of peopledid help, so let's hope.
(15:57):
I mean, I talked to someoneelse what was the artist?
His name is Slata and he saidthat he's still, they're still
dealing with a lot in caracu,right?
So it's one of those thingsthat it seems like with
everything, if they don't bandtogether, then it's going to
take longer than average, right?
Like I mean, any hurricane hasa deep impact, right?
(16:20):
So the fact that they're notbanding together, what do you
think would?
Would, would need someone wouldhave to push them to do it?
Like what do you think I?
Kerron (16:30):
have no idea.
Yeah, I have no idea.
Like, I think there's sort ofjust like, from what I
understand, they're just waitingon handouts.
Basically they're not reallysort of doing it, which is again
sad, but so it's taking therebuilding effort longer by
doing that, right.
Yeah, the rebuilding effortlonger by doing that, right,
(16:52):
yeah.
I just saw on google, as of2022, the population was 6081.
Carlene (16:54):
So, yeah, I guess, like if we're gonna get into it,
like just to talk a little bitabout what happened in caracus.
So hurricane ivan right thatthey were hit with a hurricane
like a category three hurricanein September, and I mean this is
crazy because, like you saidover from what I'm hearing, like
(17:15):
90% of the island's buildingswere damaged or destroyed, so
they're like starting from thebottom, like they have to
rebuild everything, right.
So yeah, so yeah.
Kerron (17:28):
Yeah, it's a complete rebuild from what they were
telling me and I know obviouslyfor a while they had no
electricity and stuff.
I think that's from what Iunderstand.
It's back up and running now,so yeah, yeah.
Carlene (17:41):
Yeah, I know they were out of power and everything like
that, cause my aunt was tellingme she knows a nurse that's
there and that you know theylike I mean in the summertime.
Obviously they were just tryingto get power back to begin with
, right?
Kerron (17:54):
yeah, I know, and I know I don't know how much recovery,
because apparently not evenpeople in Grenada itself know
how bad it is there, becauseit's, it's, it's again.
They're sort of isolated right.
Carlene (18:07):
So yeah, that's crazy.
Well, let's hope that this yearthings get better.
Like, I mean, september was afew months ago and I don't know
there's there's got to be someinspiration because, like you
said, it's your home, it's whereyou're coming from and like,
maybe more people from grenadaor saint George's have to go, or
(18:28):
you know, to help together andsomething like of that nature,
to help Karaku, who knows?
Yeah, so the people you weretalking to, they're rebuilding,
right, and what did they tellyou, like in terms of like how
long it's going to take them?
You know what I mean.
Like it's your house is gone.
Kerron (18:48):
Well, yeah, yeah, I think he said when I was
speaking to them there's acouple, and he was just
basically saying, where they'reobviously doing their best,
their roof and everything is hasbeen put back together.
Carlene (19:01):
Yeah.
Kerron (19:01):
For the most part.
At that time I think they saidthat I forgot the name of the
restaurant the biggerrestaurants on the island, like
the main tourist and whatnotthat that one's back up and
running, so things are slowlygetting there.
It's just that it would havebeen faster if they had put the
effort in.
Carlene (19:18):
Right, right, I don't know.
I feel like, even when Caracooside, I remember when there was
a hurricane in Grenada and thathappened, I think, in 2004.
Like, we just missed it, me andmy sister, we were down there
and then I got back, I visitedGrenada, like four years later,
(19:38):
and Caron there were someparishes, like, let's just say,
in Grand Ams, like by RiverRoadside, there, like we I went
to go visit my sister I haveanother sister, um, she lives
over there and there were stillsome areas, like I mean,
obviously they'd recover, butthere's still some houses that
you could see.
(19:59):
Oh, that's from the hurricane,you know.
So I feel like, even four years,like you could probably go back
to caracou in a few years fromnow and like you could still see
the impact, like I, I feel likeit's the people, the money, the
resources, everything like allin one, all encompassing right,
because, like, even thoughcaracou is a separate island,
(20:21):
it's still a part of grenada, soit's like the government of
Grenada to all in one.
But, like you said, it's likejust how people are, like I
guess they expect others to comeand help them.
I don't know why, but well,this is the thing.
Kerron (20:37):
Like you say, yes, the government has its
responsibility to help thepeople Right, people right.
But if, from the way Iunderstand it, if you're getting
supplies and you're being giventhe means in, by getting those
supplies, you would take theinitiative to fix your own
(20:57):
property.
That makes sense.
Yeah, and I think and I thinkthat is what's not happening
from my understanding, from theconversation, right, just right,
and like everything from peoplecomplaining, hey, you know, you
gave the free food that they'regetting to say, I don't like
this, like you're only giving merice, chicken, vegetables and
(21:19):
baked chicken.
Why can't I get like a roti orsomething like that as a free
meal?
You got a free meal, right, youknow stuff like that.
That's that's my understandingof what happened or what has did
happen yeah, I understand thatmental.
Carlene (21:33):
I understand what you're saying because that's
someone's um telling you aboutthe experience where it's like
you give them an inch, they wanta mile, kind of mentality.
Kerron (21:42):
Basically yeah.
Carlene (21:43):
Basically, yeah, yes, which is unfortunate, right,
absolutely yeah, I think it'shard.
Like, either way you take itlike it's hard as a community.
Like, do you think, like if,knock on wood, like Grenadians,
like people from Grand Anse andSt Andrew have a different
(22:05):
mentality, like versus like?
You know what I mean.
Kerron (22:08):
Like, I would say yeah.
I would say yeah yeah, I wouldsay yeah, but again, this is
what I was told.
Carlene (22:15):
Yeah, this is yeah you haven't been there to see how it
is, like I mean everyone,there's three sides to every
story and like obviously this isone person's opinion and we've
seen like the impact of it Right, and so it's hard, right,
either way it's, it's hard foranyone to recover from from
(22:38):
anything like yeah, or any, anydisaster like that yeah.
Any disaster yeah.
Kerron (22:44):
Grenada.
The Grenada fared pretty well,yeah, well, yeah, there wasn't.
There wasn't much or any damageat all, right, but did take the
brunt of it.
And I remember I think it wasright before I left too I saw a
news article pop up onlinesaying that they're still in
desperate need, and so it wasinteresting that on the way back
, when I was speaking to thatgentleman and his wife, they're
(23:04):
like they're saying they'restressing out about how bad it
is and was, and not many peopleeven know about it because life
is just happening normally.
So I think there's also a bitof awareness, or lack of
awareness with it.
That that helped combine all ofthis.
But at the same time, like Isaid, if you're not taking
responsibility to get up and fixyour home, don't expect someone
(23:26):
to do it for you, you know.
Carlene (23:27):
Yeah, yeah, and it's one of those things like you're
saying they got some resources,but who's to say everyone got
the help?
Right To get them the help,yeah, like it's hard.
Kerron (23:39):
But I mean, but for six, like six, let's say we've got
consent, that census ofapproximately 6 000 people.
For six, let's say that was2022.
Let's say you add an extra twoor, if right, round up to 10 000
.
For 10 000 people, how hard isit?
For 10 000 people, you knowthat's not a lot of people and
again, that's coming from anorth american perspective that
(23:59):
that's not a lot of people.
When you have countries liketrinidad and Guyana and the
government of Grenada helping,right, I don't think it would be
too difficult to get all ofthat sorted out.
Right.
For it to be as long as aperiod because when I went down
it was probably, I think, amonth after the hurricane, so
that came back in December.
I went down in December-ish, soI want to say or beginning of
(24:22):
December, so that I can'tremember when the hurricane was.
Carlene (24:26):
The hurricane was in September.
Kerron (24:29):
There you go.
So October, november, december,three months after you know, or
two months you know that's,that's not a lot of people.
Carlene (24:41):
Yeah, that's, on a grand scheme, that's not a lot
of people.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I mean regardless.
Maybe there's that lack ofawareness, lack of help with
certain resources, that it willtake longer than here.
Like I'm telling you because,like, even as we're talking,
we're running down.
Okay, so even me, like becauseof this this is a podcast and
(25:05):
because Grenada doesn't have thesame resources that we have
here in North America, likethere's so many more podcasts
here in Canada.
Because of the population Morepeople, more resources, more
funding and because Grenada isat a different capacity
population, there's lessresources, less funding like
(25:29):
everything is on a smaller scale.
I think even poverty is higher.
Last time I checked it was like33 percent, and so I think it's
like one of those things where,at the end of the day, it will
take longer for them to recover.
I think I, I guess, like yousaid, we're not there to see the
(25:50):
ruffle, and like even someoneelse I know is telling me he's
still helping out with it.
Kerron (25:55):
So it's crazy, right, see that's yeah, so I guess
those stories aren't far-fetchedbased on that right, but that's
also but that's also part ofthe thing, right.
It goes back to even thatcustomer service thing.
Things just take extra long inthe Caribbean.
Carlene (26:09):
They do, they do, they definitely do, for no reason.
Kerron (26:12):
For no reason, they just take extra long.
Carlene (26:14):
The fact that you oh my gosh, you were at KFC for that
long, like most people herewould be like I'm going
somewhere else for that long,like most people here would be
like.
I'm going somewhere else.
Yeah, like we're impatientbecause we're so used to things
being so fast, right?
Kerron (26:29):
Yeah, yeah, or at least some sort of haste, I should say
it doesn't even have to be fast.
You know, you don't gotta belike, eh, watch paint dry.
Just to you know, we, you don'tgot to be like watch paint dry.
Carlene (26:42):
Just to you know, we're just like it's night and day.
It really is.
Oh my goodness, thank you forlistening to Nutmeg Nation with
Carlene Humphrey.
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