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January 15, 2025 22 mins

This episode takes listeners on an intriguing journey through the cultural richness of Grenada, exploring the lingering effects of hurricanes and the importance of resilience in the face of natural disasters. The discussion moves through personal stories, culinary delights, and the significance of education, all culminating in a heartfelt reflection on how one's heritage shapes who they become.

• Exploring the impact of hurricanes on Grenada's communities 
• Discussing the uniqueness of Grenadian education systems 
• Sharing personal experiences and cultural influences from Grenada 
• Delving into the culinary delights like rum and KFC 
• Reflecting on the journey from Grenada to Canada and the importance of heritage 
• Highlighting the passion for acting cultivated during formative years 
• Offering travel tips for visiting Grenada in peak seasons

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Carlene (00:04):
hi, I'm Carlene and this is Nutmeg Nation.
We are continuing theconversation about carriacou and
you know this is not where Ithought the conversation would
go, but I think it's importantthat we discuss it because, in
terms of Grenada and everythingthat's happened within the last

(00:26):
year, it's been a year of a lotof crazy.
Things have happened, like interms of natural disasters and
just hurricane at a categorythree.
I don't think this has happenedin a very, very long time.

Kerron (00:42):
In carriacou, like Grenada's, had more hurricanes
right yeah, yeah, apparentlyGrenada is more of the one of
the more well well preparedcountries for hurricanes, um,
even when, even when they havethem, they've got a strong
enough infrastructure for it.
So if usually they're, they'rein good shape, apparently,

(01:02):
especially for stuff likemarinas, like boats and stuff,
because a lot of people in theCaribbean dock their boats in
Grenada for hurricanes, right Ingood shape in terms of that.

Carlene (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
I mean they've had a fewhurricanes.
I mean the last one was in 2005, where it was a Category 1.
And then, even before, it wasCategory 3, 2004.
And then even before, it wascategory three 2004.

(01:45):
So I mean they're betterprepared, as you said.
But even the season itself,like hurricanes usually happen
from June to November, and thefact that even Karakou itself
had such an impactful like interms of category, like
destroying the entire island,like where they can't even like
revamp from it, like they'rejust starting over, I think it's
historical in itself, like youknow.
With that being said, we aretalking about Grenada and the
beautiful island of Grenada,your home, st Andrews.
So St Andrews is known for what?
Like?
I mean, you know how Guave isthe fishing town.

(02:07):
Grand Anse is known for theirbeach.
You know Grand Anse Beachbecause it's the city and you
know what do people like to doin St Andrew.

Kerron (02:17):
I don't even remember.

Carlene (02:17):
I left I don't even remember.
Yeah.

Kerron (02:23):
Woodman.
That's what we're known for,woodman.
I don't even remember.

Carlene (02:25):
Yeah, woodman, that's what we're known for, woodman.
Oh my gosh, what is that?
Tell me, it's a rum.
Okay, okay, okay.
And how?

Kerron (02:35):
much alcohol is in that 63, I think I can't remember 67.
I can't remember.

Carlene (02:41):
Wow, okay, so that's even more than like Ray and
Nephew, I have to say, because Igot a lot of people asking me
about Ray and Nephew's Jamaicanrum, which is 40%.
Is that maybe a little bit morethan 40?
What?

Kerron (02:55):
a man.
Wait a minute.
Am I wrong, ray and Nephew?
I think is like 59 or 50,something like that.
Yeah, it's a crazy amount ofalcohol, but yeah I think
woodman, let me see woodman, letme double check I can.
I can quickly look.
So woodman is no, woodman is 57according to the internet what?

Carlene (03:19):
that's.
A lot of alcohol in there, boy,like I mean I think one little
shot will get you going likethat's a lot yeah, I think what
is it to do?

Kerron (03:30):
to do?
To do rea nephew, I think is 63.
I want to say rea nephew 63.
Let me double check yeah, reanephew 63.
I think clocks courtroom ismore like because you yeah yeah,
rea, nephew 63 yeah, becauseyou get yeah, yeah, right, right
, enough, you're 63.
Yeah.
Cause you get different,different clock scores Cause I
think one of the other clockscores no one.
Jack iron is 69 from green Jack.

Carlene (03:53):
Right, right Right.

Kerron (03:55):
And and there's a clock score run that 69 as well.

Carlene (03:57):
Right.

Kerron (04:05):
And then you have have to go throughout the rest of the
Caribbean for the next thestrongest.
The next strongest one would bepunching in Trinidad, which is
75.

Carlene (04:09):
We're talking about the serious rum there.

Kerron (04:11):
Yes, yeah, yeah and then I think it's the strongest is
sunset Vinci rum is I thinkthat's, I think that's 80 you
know your rum, then yeah, soyou're drinking rum when you're
down there on the rum runner.

Carlene (04:23):
Have you been on the rum runner?
Yeah, okay, so did you grow upin Grenada?

Kerron (04:31):
Yeah, for the most part yeah.

Carlene (04:32):
So tell me about your upbringing.
Do you remember growing up inGrenada?

Kerron (04:38):
Do I remember growing up ?
Yeah, for the most part.

Carlene (04:40):
Yeah.

Kerron (04:41):
I want to say yeah.

Carlene (04:42):
Okay, so what do you remember, like what's, what's
something that sticks out inyour mind now that you're older.

Kerron (04:48):
Man, it's, it's, it's different, like just because I
get.
I think mainly because I did alot of schooling there.
I was like the beginning of theschool years Cause I did
standard two to standard five,yeah, two to five, yeah, so it's
like, and I did my commonentrance and whatnot.

Carlene (05:09):
And what is common entrance?
For those of us who don't knowwhat common entrance is, I know
what it is.

Kerron (05:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Common entrance is an exam youdo in the equivalent here of
grade five and six to go to highschool or secondary school down
there.
So you basically do an examthat pushes you over to high
school or secondary school downthere.
So you basically do an examthat pushes you over to high
school and then you, if you pass, and if you don't pass you you
stay in the elementary slash,primary school, which is called

(05:36):
down there, and then you go onto about, I think, the
equivalent of grade seven andeight and then you go into
another school after that, forwhich is basically, I guess, the
equivalent of what acollege-ish education versus,
like a university-ish education.
It's sort of different.
It is different in that sense,right.

Carlene (05:59):
Do you find, like Grenada's education is a lot
harder than Canadian?
Like, when you left, like fromyour experience with Grenada
versus here in Canada, I didn'teven realize you did a lot of
schooling in Grenada.
Like, did you see thedifference?
Did you notice it from?
Like?

Kerron (06:16):
Yeah, I mean like I was supposed to skip two grades when
I came up here.
So it's a different, it's adifferent, it's a different,
it's a different, it's adifferent, it's a different.
The way they do education downthere is way different, like we,
for example, here you usecalculators, there we don't
Right, sort of a thing, right.

Carlene (06:36):
You're just so easy with doing math in your head is
what you're saying In a lot ofways.

Kerron (06:41):
Well, you have to think more.
I don't know if it's like easy,I wouldn't say it's I can do
math in my head.

Carlene (06:48):
I'm just saying yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, that's
interesting, I didn't know that.
You skipped to wow, okay.
And then the school that youwent to in Grenada like do you
think it prepared you for lifehere in Canada in a way?
And like your dreams and yourgoals when you were a kid.
What did you want to be?

Kerron (07:07):
I don't really have any idea much.
I think I maybe wanted to be apilot, but that was it.

Carlene (07:12):
Oh, you did oh.

Kerron (07:14):
Yeah, that was it, but other than that it's not like
yeah, nothing, nothing superconcrete, Okay.

Carlene (07:19):
But what?
Why did you?
Okay, so you work in full time.
I won't say the name of thecompany unless you want to say
it, but your passion is acting.
So what inspired you to getinto that?
What was was there?
Was there someone who was yourrole model Like?
Who inspired that?

Kerron (07:39):
No one, actually, I think maybe I got most like no.
Like, yeah, mainly mainly gotinspired in Grenada because I
did my first play in Grenada, soit sort of just brought out.
And then I was like when I cameto Canada I was like why not
give it a shot?
And it just happened.
I got the opportunity randomlyby walking in the mall.
Walking in the mall and thensome guys like hey, come

(08:00):
audition.
And then I did and didn't getthe role, but I learned and I
moved on and and then got moreinto it from there so what play?

Carlene (08:09):
okay, but speaking of your influence in Grenada, what
play was it?
Do you remember?

Kerron (08:15):
No, I don't remember the name of it.

Carlene (08:16):
Oh, ok, no, no, but how old were you when you?

Kerron (08:21):
I was grade five.

Carlene (08:26):
I think it's safe to say that our influences is from,
like, our upbringing back home,in every sense of the word.
For me, obviously, I leftGrenada when I was six and so
here in Canada my influence wasthat.
But here you talk about it.
I didn't even know that, thatyou did a play in Grenada,
that's so interesting.
And so was there anyone in yourfamily that that did any,

(08:49):
acting or no?

Kerron (08:51):
yeah, well, extended family.
I got family members who aredirectors and actors in the US
and stuff like that but whatabout your parents?

Carlene (09:00):
no, no, and did they?
Did they back you, like whenyou wanted to get into it?
I mean, you've, you've beendoing modeling.

Kerron (09:08):
They're just musicians in my family, that's all.

Carlene (09:10):
Oh, okay, so your mom and dad are they?

Kerron (09:13):
banking.
My dad's in music, no, my dad'sin music.

Carlene (09:17):
Oh okay, oh wow.
And so, like now that you'vebeen at it for a long time, like
what do you think keeps you atit?
I think the arts is always hard, obviously, but what, yeah,
keeps you going, you know?

Kerron (09:33):
I guess it's a.
It's not.
I guess it's a.
It's a joy you feel while doingthe.
It's just the process of doingit.
I like exploring new characterswhen I get the scripts and and
putting together something funand creative and and putting
your own twist on things.
You know, yeah, it's, it's not.
It's not easy.
Like you said, it takes a lotof patience and and you get.

(09:56):
You get told no a lot moretimes than you get told yes,
especially, I think, especiallyin Canada, because I think
Canada is very cliquey and niche, you know so.
But it's it's.
It's just a love of of doing itand and just developing your
craft and finding new ways,finding new things about
yourself in the process too, Ithink yeah, I feel like you know

(10:18):
, from when I've known you tilllike now you've you've managed
to get a lot more commercials,like even that mcdonald's
commercial right.

Carlene (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kerron (10:28):
Yeah, Commercials come across.
They tend to come across a biteasier.
But the crazy part is I do wellfor the other roles.
It's just that I think thecommercials are more.
Maybe I got a commercial face,I don't know.

Carlene (10:41):
Yeah, maybe it is.

Kerron (10:42):
It is.
You know what I mean.

Carlene (10:43):
You have like a face for it and like I was like, oh
my gosh, you're doing thatMcDonald's commercial, you know,
and how was that?
You know for you.

Kerron (10:51):
I was good that was the second McDonald's commercial.
But yeah, oh my gosh, that wasyour second one.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, okay, so there've been acouple.

Carlene (11:00):
I know I haven't followed everything, but you
know, just hearing you say that,like obviously the impact is
something that got you to whereyou are now and do you feel like
, did your parents help you withyour passion?
Because there's always thepassion side, like the arts is
always something that I finddoesn't come as quickly as we

(11:24):
want it to, especially here inCanada, but did you have a
little like did your parentssupport you with that?

Kerron (11:32):
Yeah, my mom was pretty supportive.

Carlene (11:34):
Okay, that's good, but overall I mean getting back to
Grenada and what we talk abouthere.
So a few things about yourlittle parish, st Andrews.
I didn't even know this.
So it is the largest parish.
St Andrews is the largest, yeahand Andrews I didn't even know
this.
So it is the largest parish, StAndrews is the largest, yeah,
and then tourist attractions, soincluding oh I didn't even know

(11:55):
this Granatang National Park.

Kerron (11:58):
The Granville.

Carlene (11:58):
NAPA yeah.

Kerron (11:59):
And Prozac.
Seven Sisters Falls is there,yeah, granatang Park.

Carlene (12:07):
No, granatang is great.
I love that place.
Um, it's beautiful.
So you had a great time and yougot a really cheap flight, like
oh my goodness, I don't eventhink I've seen those numbers.
It's been a long time sinceI've seen a flight that price,
you know, especially for grenada.
Yeah, yeah, oh.
I do have a question, thoughwhat did you get?
when you were on the plane, likeI feel like now you don't even
get what you normally do.
Have a question, though whatdid you get when you were on the

(12:28):
plane?
Like I feel like now you don'teven get what you normally do,
because a flight to Grenada islike five hours and before you
used to get food, but now it'slike.

Kerron (12:37):
Well, food is not included.
You got to pay extra for that.

Carlene (12:39):
Yeah, but did they give you like appetizer or anything
Like what?
Did they give you Peanuts,anything?

Kerron (12:48):
I think it was peanuts or cookie.
I can't remember what, to behonest, because it was like
nothing.

Carlene (12:52):
Oh my gosh.

Kerron (12:53):
And you get like that is so crazy.
And you get a drink, popper orwater, or orange juice or
whatever you know.
Yeah, orange juice, or whateveryou know.
Oh my gosh, that is just tootime to change, you know whereas
if you fly with CaribbeanAirlines, they will give you
food oh, fun fact, I didn't knowthat yeah, they will give you
food fun fact, good stuff.

(13:15):
So the highlight of your tripwas just hanging out with family
that were like your age groupyeah, closer to my age and
getting to see the island orrelive some parts like granite
and wake and other places likethat where I went when I was a
kid granite tag like.

Carlene (13:33):
So I mean, what did you do when you got there?
Like did you just walk around,take pictures, like walk around
take some pictures.

Kerron (13:40):
yeah, just see it, because it's like, unless you're
going to go on the hike up theup the mountain, there's not
much you can do there, right.

Carlene (13:46):
Yeah.

Kerron (13:47):
Yeah, I've never seen.
I've never seen anybody go onthe water there, so I mean I
wouldn't, but I've never seenanybody do it.

Carlene (13:54):
Oh my gosh, that was a little scary, exactly, you know.
Would you stay longer?
I think, like I mean, mostpeople don't stay for just a
week while they're in Grenada,like they try to stay longer.
But I mean, obviously youstayed for a week, would you?
Was it quick, like, did youfeel like, oh my gosh, like you
were just, you just got here,right.

Kerron (14:15):
Yeah, I had a little bit of that sensation, but it is
what it is.
Obviously, I'll go back.

Carlene (14:24):
So I'm not, you know I'm not too concerned.
No, I know you're not tooconcerned with that.
And yeah, question for you youknow, when you like, because
we're born in grenada and wegrew up there and like we're
always like going to see familywould you ever go down and stay
like on the resort or like offon your own, like just to have
that experience too?

Kerron (14:45):
I would, but grand is LA expensive for that stuff.

Carlene (14:48):
I know that's the thing Like I my sister told me to
like.
If you're staying by the grandand speech, it's way more
expensive.
Yeah, I haven't seen.
I mean I haven't looked atprices, but it's just one of
those things where you could dolike an Airbnb down there, like
you, like you did in Bahamas.

Kerron (15:06):
You could do that.

Carlene (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kerron (15:08):
And there are other little.
I guess you can call themboutique or local hotels, so
Island, and there's a new onethat actually opened up in St
David's I forgot the name of it,but there are hotels and stuff
down there you can stay in, butagain it's, they're pricey for
the most part right exactly, andwith the dollar the way it is

(15:30):
like, is it still strong, like Ifind?

Carlene (15:33):
like Canadian dollar in Grenada is a lot more than you
know, in comparison to the US.
Like our money, canadian dollaris worth more in Grenada well,
what is it?
It's two to one yeah, it'salways yeah, yeah, that's what
it was right for the EC dollar,but when you got down there,
though, were you able to likehow much was that KFC?

(15:55):
Now, oh my gosh.
Last time I went, it wasexpensive.
Like how much was it.

Kerron (15:59):
I want to say it was about 30, 30 c, I think okay
okay, it hasn't gone up too toomuch, but like a two-piece meal
or three-piece meal.

Carlene (16:12):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, oh my gosh, I love kfc, though in
granada.
That's the thing.
Like I always tell my aunts,I'm like let's go there first,
let's not go home, let's pass byfirst, you know, but obviously
the food and everything.
Did you have some rum, icecream?
Was it rum and raisin?
Yeah, yeah, I did yeah yeah, Ifind it's always so good.

Kerron (16:33):
But I had some really good like uh, what is it not
smoothies?
Yeah, like the freshly squeezeddrinks like I had, because you
know you don't get obviously thegood like sour soap and all
those other ones up here.
So I had some of that, whichwas good, because it's been a
while since I've had that right,it's always good.

Carlene (16:50):
Yeah, it sounds like you had like a well-rounded trip
and like everything wassomewhat, you know, like there's
highlights and lowlights andand things are still moving at a
slower pace, right With certainthings.
But how was Granddad's BeachLike?
How was it?
Did you have a nice time whenyou were there?

Kerron (17:11):
Yeah, yeah Wasn't busy, which was interesting because I
thought it would be really busy,but it wasn't super busy.

Carlene (17:17):
Why do you think that was so like?
I mean, you went during a busytime, didn't you like christmas?
Oh yeah, it's december, I guessyeah, like holiday time, like a
lot of people are down, like,did you go to any clubs?
Did you go to fantasia or no?

Kerron (17:33):
you didn't go to any club I was going to, but the day
I was going to or the night Iwas going to, um, it started to
rain, so.
So I was like eh, forget that.

Carlene (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, and you didn't feel like going, or going
another day, no, nah, okay, itseems like you're getting up
there then, like we're at thatpoint now where you don't really
have to go to the club.
Right, it felt like you know,like it wasn't like a thing that
you had to do.

Kerron (17:59):
Well, no, like for me, because I've never, I've never
really done any much, a lot ofclubbing or anything down there,
so for me it didn't, didn'tmatter yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
because it's a family.

Carlene (18:10):
It's a family affair, like you're going to see family
that you haven't seen in a while.
And oh you, like you said, yourmom went down too right.

Kerron (18:17):
So yeah, yeah, you guys got to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Carlene (18:19):
Yeah.

Kerron (18:20):
Not in there for, not not there for for that stuff.

Carlene (18:23):
Right, right, yeah, yeah, definitely.
So if anyone decides to go downto Grenada this year, what do
you think?
What's when's the best time?
Obviously, carnival is alwaysthe best time to go, but other
than Carnival, when would yousuggest going?

Kerron (18:42):
like, personally speaking or suggestions, yeah, I
would say, obviously don't godown in rainy season, because
around the time I went it wasstill rainy season right.

Carlene (18:54):
Yeah, that's the thing that we don't talk about, okay,
so I think it's december andjanuary is rainy season, right?

Kerron (19:03):
I think rainy season is from.
It's like our summer.
Here is the rainy season downthere.
Yeah, yeah, and it goes and itgoes all the way to like
December.

Carlene (19:12):
Right, right, right, yeah, lots of rain.
You know what, though?
It's not the same kind of rainlike here, like I don't know,
it's not fun when it's raining,raining, but there's some kind
of calm about it.
I don't know if it's still thesame now.
But another thing I want to askyou did you find, was it really
hot?
Like the humidity?
Like my sister said to me, it'sso humid that, like she

(19:34):
couldn't sleep well, like no, no.

Kerron (19:37):
I have no problems with that at all.
I love it okay.

Carlene (19:41):
I don't know, I guess if you, if you've lived in
Canada a long time, like mysister, didn't grow up in
Grenada or whatever, but she'sCanadian all the way.
But she said it was so humidwhen she went, but she went in
November, like last time shewent.

Kerron (19:54):
Yeah, that's still rainy season, because rainy season,
I'm pretty sure rainy seasonfrom like June to December,
december, which is also likehurricane, hurricane season
mainly around.

Carlene (20:04):
Yeah, june, june, august, july, august, september,
that's, but you don't, youdon't mind the heat, like for
you, like you don't, likethere's no.
Is there AC where you stay,like when you go down there?

Kerron (20:14):
no, oh, okay, okay, no AC and I don't care, I love it
you're like like I love it, I'mgood, I'm good, that's good,
though.

Carlene (20:25):
I mean, I think I think it's great that you got some
rum while you were down thereand you had a good time and
customs wasn't too bad.
Do you find like, okay, onemore thing, do you have a great
Indian password?

Kerron (20:37):
I do.

Carlene (20:38):
Did you renew it?

Kerron (20:40):
Nah, I got to get that done.

Carlene (20:42):
Oh, ok, ok, OK.
So as someone who is Canadian,like we have both right.
Would you do you think that ifyou went down there with your
Grenadian passport, that they'regoing to treat you a little bit
different?

Kerron (20:58):
It's easier because you have the machines now.
Like, how are we doing Canadawhen you check in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can do itto go through the machines.
That's another, I guess,advancement.

Carlene (21:07):
I guess, um, yeah, it is because I find like I was
just like wait a minute, whenare we gonna get with the times?
Because I don't know.
There's a little bit of thatlike too.
But I think I like the factthat they still do it old school
because you get that humanconnection.
But it seems like even with thehuman connection there's a
disconnect from what your lastexperience was like, because I

(21:29):
find, like when here in Canadanow, like there's less people,
like you got to do self checkyour luggage yourself, you got
to do everything through themachine, I'm like where is
everybody?
There's no people here at theairport.
Like there's some people tohelp you.
But that's the way we're going,right, yeah.

Kerron (21:45):
Well, obviously they want to save money, so they're
going to do whatever is possiblethe so-called save money.

Carlene (21:52):
But since COVID oh, that's another thing, Cause I
haven't flown but since COVID,what was that experience like
for you?

Kerron (22:04):
Like, were you wearing a mask on the plane?
Like what's?
No, no, I've flown more a lotsince COVID.

Carlene (22:06):
But yeah, no, no man.
Okay, so it was a goodexperience nonetheless, but
don't go to Grenada during greatrainy season and definitely
visit St Andrews, right?
Yeah, yeah there we go.
Well, I'm Carlene and this isNutmeg Nation.
Thank you, caron, for giving meyour experience.
I've learned so much about you.

(22:26):
Like you know a little bit morethan I knew before, and it's
interesting.
I hope that this year isamazing in terms of like your
passion and that you get to do alot more Right.

Kerron (22:39):
Thank you, thanks for having me.

Carlene (22:40):
Yeah, it's been great, thank you.
Thank you for listening toNutmeg Nation with Carlene
Humphrey.
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Welcome to Bookmarked by Reese’s Book Club — the podcast where great stories, bold women, and irresistible conversations collide! Hosted by award-winning journalist Danielle Robay, each week new episodes balance thoughtful literary insight with the fervor of buzzy book trends, pop culture and more. Bookmarked brings together celebrities, tastemakers, influencers and authors from Reese's Book Club and beyond to share stories that transcend the page. Pull up a chair. You’re not just listening — you’re part of the conversation.

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

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