Papoose & Remy Ma - Joey Badass & West Coast- Fat Joe & Zipwitthedrip - NYPTALKSHOW Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
what's going on, everybody out.
There is ron brown, lmt, thepeople's fitness professional,
alongside clip and shawnee inthe building.
This evening we're going totalk.
Today, we're going to today.
We're talking About Pat Poose,remy Joey Badass, west Coast Fat
Joe and Zip with the drip.
It's been an interesting week,interesting week Of things going

(00:38):
on.
And Clip, you know, of course,man, you come with the history.
So I want to build a little biton the West Coast history and
how you know Things.
I want to build a little bit onthe West Coast history and how
you know things happen ortranspire between East Coast and
West Coast and how that waslike kind of like like blown up
a little bit too muchexaggerated and cause, you know,
like a like an East Coast WestCoast rivalry and things kind of

(01:02):
went out of control.
But you know, first let's startoff with Pat Poose and Remy Ma.
Pat Poose from Brooklyn, remyMa from the Bronx.
And from what I'm hearing, man,I'm hearing that she's from
actually, she's actually fromQueens.
I'm hearing that she's actuallyfrom Queens.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We're not responsible for that.
That's what I'm hearing.
I like that.
Yeah right, Give me moreresponsible for that.
That's what I'm hearing.
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Give me more news like that I'm hearing she's from
Queens.
Now I'm going to tell you whereI got that from.
My source was Zip with the Drip.
That was my source.
He said she was from Astoria.
Right, yeah, he said she wasfrom Astoria.
Now, the reason why I never takethings on face value but for me
, the type of character that I'mlearning from Zip with the drip

(01:49):
is the person that's going tokeep it above.
He don't be lying.
It seems like I'm not going totake it on face value.
However, I'm going to take thatright there.
That's the gospel.
She's from Astoria.
That's the.
That's the gospel, right?
So you know, she's from Astoriasupposedly, and, uh, you know.
But I did see her on castleHill as well, though no, that

(02:13):
wasn't castle.
I saw her on Parkchester oneday.
I saw on two differentoccasions one one on Parkchester
.
One time on Parkchester she wasbuying some sneakers or
whatever.
But um, uh, but anyway.
But, uh, pat Pooce, she wasbuying some sneakers or whatever
.
But, but, anyway, but Pat Poose, to take it to Pat Poose, pat
Poose and Remy that whole ordeal.
Pat Poose has been a ride or dieperson for Remy.

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Remy went to prison and allthat.
He held it down and you knowshe got out and you know he he
was like basically pushing thiswhole black love thing in that
relationship.
Now, you know, let's talk aboutPapoose, though, like the

(02:54):
history of Papoose, from what Iknow K Slade picked him up.
Rest in peace to the guard KSlade.
Rest in peace to the guard KSlade.
K Slade endorsed him prettymuch and put him on his stuff.
K Slade endorsed him prettymuch and put him on his stuff.
And Pat Poose, what caught myear?
What Pat Poose was thealphabetical slaughter joint.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, like with most people.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Most people remember that.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
For better or for worse, how you feel about him.
That's historical in a culture.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
For sure, he did A to Z and then he went to Z to A.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, that's historical.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's historical Now and then he does, you know.
But other than that he neverreally got that commercial
success that all I would saymost hip hop artists would like
to have.
You know, for whatever reason,I never understood why.
You know, I'm going to assumemaybe I don't know, maybe he put

(03:55):
his energy a bit, maybe toomuch, into other people versus
himself, you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
So that's my.
I think he missed his arrowOkay.
Yeah, I think he missed his era.
I think for his choice of topiche would have been a mainstay
in the early 90s you wouldn'thave been able to deny him when
black empowerment was the topicin hip-hop.

(04:19):
If he would have matched upwith the timeline he would have
went down.
But because he was a little bitbehind the timeline, a little
bit too much from his heart,because even when he had that
one commercial joint with Ican't remember the name of that
joint, but he was rapping abouthow nah not the Bucky Naked
joint, the joint before thatwith the girl.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
He had the verse.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
That was a funny joint, but he had that verse.
He was talking about how theConstitution made us
three-fourths of a man.
But it was so off-topic fromthe rest of the song that it was
like maybe commercial musicjust wasn't his sway.
You know what I mean.
But that doesn't take away fromwhat he was able to able to lay
down with his attention well,let me ask you what other, what

(05:07):
other songs do you remember ofof papoose?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
my first remembrance of papoose was before the case.
Later ever so.
I first heard papoose on theroots of evil coogee rap album.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Coogee Rap album.
Okay, see Clip.
That's why Clip has to be here.
Man Me Clip, we love you, clip,you need me.
So now that's a necessary pause, or what?
No, that's my new thing now.

(05:45):
Necessary pause, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's my new thing.
Now necessary part no, but Imean.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I first heard of him.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Ayo, I ain't going to lie to you.
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
That's when I first heard of him.
And then he started doing thestreet tapes well, the
freestyles and the DVD era andhe got linked up with K-Slave
and he signed that $1.5 milliondeal through Busta Rhymes.
Busta Rhymes plugged that inwith K yeah, so Busta Rhymes
helped him get that $1.5 milliondeal.

(06:12):
Once that happened, he wassupposed to put out Nasarima
Dream.
He kept nailing that out, whichis basically American Dream
backwards and it took too longto come out.
He kept dropping mixtapes andsongs.
I think he wasted all of hisgood records on mixtapes instead

(06:32):
of holding out.
Don't get me wrong.
The Not Serene Dream albumeventually came out, but by the
time it came out, hip-hop kindof moved on from Pat because he
was promoting it for so longthat we just didn't want to hear
it no more because it was likeit's like joel's with the I
can't feel my face, we don'tcare no more.
Like dog, we don't care, right,yeah, yeah, word, you know what

(06:55):
I'm saying.
It's like that, it's like thatsituation.
So it's like you know, pat, buthe, he, pat is the only artist
I've seen signed a 11.5 milliondeal and didn't pay nothing back
.
I don't know how he finagledhis way into getting $1.5
million from the labels and nothave to give him nothing back.
I just don't know, but I feelPat is a stand-up dude.

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He can lyricist, he definitelycan rap.
He's not my cup of teaproduction wise, I really don't
matter, not a big fan of hisbeats and I think he's not a
good hook writer, but he can rap.
Um, definitely a LMC situationwith him and Remy.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think before we get to Remy, before we get to Remy,
you just gave a lot of historyright.
You unpacked a lot of historyof Papoose.
I didn't know, you know whatI'm saying.
Like he was on Coogee rapsalbum.
I had no idea about that.
You know what I'm saying.
I just remember him fromalphabetical slaughter and, to
be honest, like from from myperspective, I was already

(08:03):
Wu-Tang'd out.
I already did all the lyricalspiritual.
By the time 99 came I was like,alright, I'm good with it.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's actually when I first heard Papoose.
It was like 99.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I was like alright, I don't want to hear that, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
And then around 99, it was like I I don't want to
hear that, you know I'm sayingso so like.
And then around like 99, it waslike you were really paying
attention to artists who hadreally bigger budgets anyway,
like, because like the videos in99 was crazy, like let's.
Let's be honest what I think.
Williams yo, my god, hate me now.
All those like those videosthat came out in 99, early 2000s
, 98, like that was just a timewhere companies spent a lot of

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money on their brands, basicallylike that, flat out.
Like everybody spent a lot ofmoney on securing their brands,
even like double mint at thattime, right and the culture was
shifting.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
And the culture was shifting because it was still
New York, still held the title,but it was shifted to the South.
It was quiet, right, Like so.
You had, you know, you hadMaster P in them in 98, and you
had Cash Money popped out of 99.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And then even Puff ran down South with Boys in the
Hood.
That's when you knew, that'swhen you really really knew like
oh, snap, puff went down southtwice right with um yeah, jock
and jock and a ball and I forgotabout young jock.
You right three times.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
What about?
Uh, gorilla, what's thatgorilla zoe?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
gorilla zoe was dope too.
His album was tough.
Shout out to Gorilla Zoe, shoutout to Atlanta.
But yeah, like when Pap came,the Lyrical Miracle and the
Coogee Rap app didn't get a lotof promotions so you had to be
like a diehard Coogee Rap fan tocheck for it and then you would
know like oh who, this new kidnamed Pap who's?

(10:01):
It's like.
It's like when it's like with awhole bunch of artists.
Like they'll be on somebody'salbum that's not really popping.
Like the album ain't poppingbut their name is starting to
come in.
Like it's like the introductioninto the industry.
To a certain degree, they'llget with a legacy artist, have a
and then find a way.

(10:22):
Like Jeezy with Fabulous.
Exactly like Jeezy withFabulous.
Like Nipsey Hussle on the Tupacalbum.
A lot of people ain't know that.
Or like Kendrick Lamar on agame mixtape in 2007.
You know, what I'm saying.
It's a lot of these things thatpeople really won't know about.

(10:43):
If you know what I'm sayingLike it's a lot of these things
that people really won't knowabout If you really want to know
, like Gangsta Chroniclesmixtape the game did with New
Jersey Devil, there's a song onthere called Cali Niggas, and
pretty much all of them.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Cali cats that you hear now was basically on that
record, wow.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
But Pap, you know, I feel like Pap.
I don't know.
I feel like his music.
I'm going to keep it a buck.
His music didn't reallyresonate with me a lot, even
though he's a lyricist.
I did like the Law Libraryseries.
I liked those.
I liked a few joints he did,but then sometimes I felt like
he was just rappity rapping withno purpose.

(11:26):
After a while I really didn'tcare for Alphabet Slaughter.
I appreciate the creativity ofit and the technicality of it,
but it wasn't something I wasgoing to rewind on a regular
basis.
Right, when you go zigzag,zoola, the rickzag, the ripper,
zebras, the zippers, zappers,the zippers, zappers, jibbers.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
All zippers and zippers, zappers and zippers,
zappers.
All right, dog, yeah it's.
It's definitely for a certainaudience.
I said definitely for a certainaudience and that's that
answers your question why hedidn't catch mainstream.
You know what I mean, right?
No, but then it's like life isfunny, right, because it rewards
certain things, like evenbefore you get to achieve them.
So I think, for him, being likea stand up guy, things came his

(12:10):
way.
I think people probably likethe way he move is what I'm
trying to say and then they sawthe potential and saw that's
what he wanted, and then theypushed.
I think K is that kind of a guy.
Anyway, what you think abouthuh, I'm trying to.
I'm agreeing with you to acertain degree, yeah yeah,
because it's like when you thinkabout k right and how deeply

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embedded he is in in the culture, not not just the djing, but
like the sleeper train stationshe's.
He's for real like.
He's the culture for real.
So with somebody that's thatstamp, see something in you and
and and then put you like firstfive of his mixtape.
You know that's, you knowthat's.

(12:56):
That's the heat right there.
When it comes to the k slavejoint, the first five, first six
, ten joints, you know you startgoing down 26, 27.
So it's like, but what else wasit like?
It had to be something else.
And as we see the way he move,he's a real like.
He's a real stand-up dude man.

(13:16):
He's a real stand-up dude, notnot too positive.
He deserved this treatment thathe receiving or that he
received.
But the good thing about it,the good thing about it is it's
a blatant example of what tolook for, what to see, how to be

(13:37):
and how not to be, from bothsides.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You know what I'm saying it's a blatant reason why
tired of people's on tv, orthey black, love black, this
black that yo shut up just liveyour life right.
The whole black love lookslooks fake now, like all of it
looks fake because if you reallylove a person, you wouldn't be

(13:59):
doing this.
I don't care what the scenariois.
You wouldn't be trying to airout your partner or your
ex-partner on social media.
We don't care, we just here forthe circuit.
Right right right.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Now I want to talk about Remy.
I want to build up on herhistory too, because I didn't
know anything about her beingfrom Astoria I thought she was
really from castle hill in thatarea and all that and she was
discovered by pun, right, yeah,no, yeah right she was.

(14:33):
She was discovered.
She was discovered by pun.
Now, how was she discovered?
She was also battle rapping andall that.
She had a battle battle withLady Luck, yeah.
Fight Club, right.
Then she got that record deal.
Then she made a couple hitsLean Back, she had a verse on

(14:54):
Lean Back.
She had that verse on Any Up.
That's her breakout verse.
Yeah, that's her breakout.
I'm Conceited that song, right,there was a hit too.
Other than that, I don't knowmuch about Remy.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I feel like that joint with her and Ne-Yo, that
joint always playing in my head.
That joint with her and Ne-Yowas crazy too.
Yeah, that joint was stupidRemy.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Her history is right, like you said.
She came up under Pun but Punpassed away.
Her history is right, like yousaid she came up under Pun but
Pun Passed away before he reallyintroduced her.
We just knew that she was.
He was a protege.
And when she did the Andy Yuppremix feature, that verse is the
verse that took her, that gotthe.
That verse for her as a femaleartist Was like AZ's verse On

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Life's a Bitch.
Yeah.
It had an impact similar tothat, like who's that shit?
Right, crazy, right.
Fat Joe took it in Terror Squadfamily.
Basically, you down with thesquad because you was Puff.
I mean not Puff, you wasPunzartist.
We're going to roll with that.

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If you notice, she wasn't onthe first Terror Squad album.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
The first Terror Squad album was so fire bro Wait
a minute.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
She's not on.
Take you Home.
That's the second album.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's the second album.
The first Terror Squad album iscrazy.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
The first album is better than the second album,
the first Terror Squad album.
The second album is crazy.
The first album is better thanthe second album.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
When punk come knocking at your front, door
anyone, Nah, that was not.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Nah, that's raw, nah, that's raw, yeah, nah that's.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Puerto Rican, new York City, raw right there, that
was the album that had that,but your man can't do it like
this.
Right that joint.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Okay okay, yeah, remember that you got Cuban Link
.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Fat Joe Armageddon Triple, c's yes, who else?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Sunkissed on that joint Tony.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sunshine.
I like Sunkissed, I like TonySunshine too, and that's it
right.
Yeah, Tony Sunshine had that.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just wanted to say this realquick.
Tony Sunshine had that remixthat he did to TONY Crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Crazy that first Terror Squad album Pump, was
becoming the guy like he wasbecoming bigger than Joe, quiet
as hell, right, and he was aboutto do bring his own artists in
all of Cuba Link and all of themwas really under him, right.

(17:43):
So that whole Terror Squad istechnically like Pun's crew.
For the most part, joe was justthe guy that put the pieces
together to make everythinghappen.
When Pun died, everything fellapart.
A few of the cats stayed withPun, a few of the cats ran with

(18:05):
what's my man?
Cuba Link.
And then Remy was over therewith Joe.
Then Remy started her featurework, hopping on Pun's second
album, and then I meanPotsmouth's album.
You know that second album thatcame out after he died and then
she was just tearing stuff upon the streets on a battle tip.

(18:27):
She was getting her name knownacross the city.
She got the first hit recordthat she had, her single let's
Get it Poppin', whatever thedrink that Swizz did.
That was the record that hadthe club anthem.
Then she had the record withNe-Yo.
Her career was taking off andthen she shot a chick.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Now that situation right when Remy shot this person
, right.
I never really dug into thatstory but like what actually
happened.
Does anybody know about thatstory Supposedly Short?
Anybody know about that storysupposedly shorty, stole?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
a stack from her.
Okay, right now I don't knowremy's pockets at the time.
I don't know the situation.
All I know is the word wasshorty, shorty stole.
Some shorty.
A chick that she knew stolebread from her.
So instead of putting hands onher, remyemy just took it to the
streets on another level andpopped Shirley.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
You know, that's interesting because Clarissa
Shields is talking aboutfighting.
But Remy went to prison forshooting somebody.
But she's in her 40s right now.
She already been through that.
She's not trying to go throughthat right now.
We're all older on a notherlevel and shit like that.
But but like fighting, I like Idon't know why even clarissa is

(19:50):
even bringing that up.
I guess because she's the boxerand she's younger.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
So you know she's in that type of frame of mind the
fighter I mean fighters gonnafight, like I'm not here to talk
.
I'm not to me.
Clarissa really ain't reallytalking crazy.
She's just like yo.
I'm not here to talk.
I'm not To me.
Clarissa really ain't reallytalking crazy.
She just like yo.
I'm not really.
I don't really have beef withyou, shorty, but you keep
mentioning my name and I ain'tsay nothing about you, right?
But if you want to get itshaken, we can get it shaken.

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That's how I look at Clarissa.
Like I'm not trying to fight nofemale undefeated boxer right
now.
Like I'm not trying to fight nofemale undefeated boxer right
now.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
What are you doing?
The?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
most decorated fighter in US history and
remember she went into the UFCas well, so she can grapple,
yeah and she from Detroit comeon.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Lucky she, god fearing.
You heard lucky she, godfearing.
I don you.
Lucky she god fearing.
Because even I don't know youknow you've been to detroit or
you know people from detroit yo.
But I've been to detroit.
Right, they don't play outthere yo, my first five hours
out there somebody tried to sellme a taped up chopper.
I just came outside to smoke.
Bro, it's serious out there manlike so don't don't take it for

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granted that she boxing or shecould be doing something else.
She obviously got the heart.
She obviously she.
Obviously she got the heart.
Lucky, she got jesus in herlife too it could be ugly.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I listen, I ain't got nothing against remy as a
person, right?
I don't know her personally,but I got people that's
associated with First of all.
I got people that's in TerrorSquad, right.
So I don't want to, you know,say anything crazy about the
situation, but I do think thewhole situation is corny, right?

(21:41):
I do think that Remy is too oldto be going on social media to
try to air out Pampus, you werescreaming black love with this
man.
You was ready to get married.
You was married to this man.
You did a whole TV show withthis man.
You did songs and appearancesof black love and rapping verses

(22:05):
together.
You did a and appearances ofblack love and rapping verses
together.
You did a whole lot with thisman, regardless if the situation
went bad.
Who cheated or not, that'sirrelevant, right?
You loved that man at thatpoint.
Don't sit there and say youdidn't, right.
Don't try to say he was thebrokest man you was with.
All that didn't matter, becausethat's not the image that you

(22:25):
was portraying to the world.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Right Now he broke.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Now he broke.
It comes off as bitter that hemoved on, because the whole time
when we found out that you weresupposedly cheating with easy
to block captain, right, how canyou say a word?
He didn't slander you, hedidn't talk to you, he didn't go

(22:52):
to the world and all of that, Iknew it was friction.
It was legit at the K-Slavefuneral when Pat made his speech
and Remy was behind him holdingthe baby, but Remy ain't look
like she wanted to be there.
I was looking at the energy andI'm like, yeah, this
relationship is going downhill.
It could have been salvaged ifRemy, it could have been

(23:17):
salvaged if she got caughtcheating, if the information
didn't go public, right, that'show I feel.
But I feel like Pap tried tostick around because he's a dude
.
That's like, alright, marriages, some things happen.
You know people in marriages.
You're going to have someissues in your marriage.
It happens To the best of them,right.

(23:37):
But Pap is the type of personthat I think he's a forgiving
person.
He seems like a very forgivingperson and a very logical
thinking person that tries to atleast work out the problems
before he decides to step off.
Right, according to Pap, hecaught her doing.
Whatever she was doing.
He tried to fix it therapy allof that, and when he couldn't

(24:00):
fix it, I'm out of here, right,right Remy.
I guess because the social mediawas tearing Remy up, remy had
to figure out a way to get theupper hand because she was
looking bad on social media justbecause of the breakup in

(24:21):
general, because we watched thisman sit with you in your whole
jail bed and we watched him beloyal to you throughout your
whole entire jail bed.
So I don't know.
I just think for me personally,I think the whole situation is
corny.
I think black people need tostop airing each other's
business and personal lives outon social media.

(24:41):
I think we're too mature forthat at this point, especially
people that's in their 40s.
I just think that therepresentation of black people
can never get along.
The stereotypes of black menand black women can never, never
stick together.
I think that it's like we we wetoo busy proving to the world

(25:01):
that they're right.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I like that.
I like that.
Now, on a.
On a less serious note, patPoose I like that.
Now, on a less serious note,papoose always gets the girls
that I like.
I would've Remy.
Remy can.
First of all, she can rhymelike a rapper girlfriend.

(25:31):
Back in the days when I wasinto rapping a lot, that would
have been dope.
And I like the, I like her, Ilike her swag.
Like some people, like I likewomen who are strong, so to
speak.
I like strong women and she's astrong woman, although it's
well, matter of fact, you do abid and come out and all of that

(25:51):
.
She's tough.
I don't know about strong,she's tough.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
She's tough.
Yeah, there's a difference.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, she's tough.
She's a tough kid.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Ain't nobody going to take that from her.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Like I don't really agree with.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
you know I don't agree with her movement, but I
would never take that away fromher.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
She is tough as nails , and then he got, he got, he
got with clarissa shills.
She's a boxer, right?
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
the tough trick, yeah yo you, you, you ever seen
clarissa?
Forgive me, pat, forgive me,you ever see clarissa at them,
weigh-ins oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah yeah, yo she be looking
good, bro, like she yo.

(26:38):
She's tall and she's sofeminine because you know she
come out with the with the nicejoints, not not the boxer joints
on on the bottom, she come outwith a nice lacy joints all that
look good until she throw thatleft hook, and that should just
be scaring me.
Nah, but that's what y'all know.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
You're supposed to not put yourself in a position
to get to the left hook.
It's just the way she behooking off in the ring Chicks
be getting hit.
I be thinking she a dude theway she be connecting with these
guys, the way her joint sheconnect like a dude and I'm like
, nah yo, that's kind of likeshe's.

(27:17):
She's not ugly, she's not,definitely not an ugly chick,
she's definitely not at all.
She's not my type, but I canrespect her beauty for what it
is.
I'm not mad that she can fighteither, but something about.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
That scares me.
Well, you know what.
I want to know what does.
Pat Poo say to these womenthough Ain't no, man, ain't no
man, he's like Pat Poo.
You seem calculated, brother,you seem calculated.
I want to know what's the?
What do you say, you know, to a, to a female, a champion, you

(27:56):
know, I mean a female boxer.
Bro, you went for that like how, what was the first joint, like
you know, I mean, what was thefirst line?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I'm saying but pap stay.
I'm saying, really though papstay, like, really though pap
stayed as a man or man, like man, I could see that just pulling
strong women.
I can't see someone who don'tstand on no star pulling strong
women.
That's not going to work.
He confident, he go for what hewant.

(28:26):
This, that and third, yeah youknow, what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Why not?
I'm going to be honest with you.
I feel like him and Remyswapped they, separated to date.
Why not?
I'm going to be honest with you.
I feel like him and Remyswapped.
They swapped, they separated todate people that look just like
them.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Better bro, like well .
Nah, I say Pap got the upperhand though B I say Pap got the
upper hand.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I think that's why Remy's 20.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Nah, but he got to see.
Look, it don't quite matterlike it don't quite matter how a
lot of people look at religionright, but from the way she
looks at it right, because I'veheard her say it she's a
God-fearing woman.
She serves God, she serves hermen.
She says she don't have noproblem being feminine and

(29:08):
subservient to her men.
That's an understanding thatmost people just don't have.
It's a discipline.
Let me say that's a disciplinethat a lot of people don't have,
because she is highly capableof knocking Pap out Like, let's
be real, pap, could you know?
Pap could do his joints.
I ain't trying to take nothingfrom Pap, you know what I'm

(29:30):
saying, but she's been doingthat for a long time.
It is an opportunity that youknow.
One out of three she might getyou, papa, you know what I'm
saying.
One out of three.
She's guaranteed to get one ofthose, you see.
But she has enoughself-discipline to not war out
like that and put it out in thepublic and move in the manner
that marries what she says Blackpower for life.

(29:52):
But she moves intact like hemoves intact, so they look good
together, easy to block.
Dropped a uh, a voicemail topap.
I don't know if y'all heardthat he dropped that voicemail,
or pap got hold of thatvoicemail where he was like yo,
is she ever go left or right onme, he?

(30:12):
He said I got videos, I gotpictures.
He said this going to go when Isay so, yeah, I heard that
Anything going to go viral.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
That's suckership To me that's suckership.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, that is though no no, no, no, no, it absolutely
is, but it's just catering tomy point that pat went up and
one went down, and then yougotta really look at situations
like that, right?
Somebody, male or female, whenthey're feeling beneath they

(30:47):
will cause a ruckus and theywill look to find somebody that
look like you but is beneath you, like just to stay in that
empowerment of themselves.
Just saying empowerment ofthemselves, you know what I mean
.
I look at situations like thattoo.
She's, she's doing.
You can't say he's done as wellas she's done in hip-hop, can't

(31:08):
say that.
So she has the, the name overhim as far as anybody's
concerned, he's just a battlerapper yeah, yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
He hasn't done anything outside of battle.
Rap, right, he?
Well, he had the little.
He had the little, the gueststar appearance on a bel-air tv
show, right?
So he was the villain onbel-air.
So I don't know if anybodywatched bel-air I do, but he
played.
He played the guy that chasedwill smith out of philly okay,

(31:44):
okay okay, okay yo wait, how didyou?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
how are you enjoying that?
Was that enjoyable?
It's dope, it's a really dopeshow.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
It's like a street version of Fresh Prince of
Bel-Air.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Did they get to the part where Will's Pops came back
and broke out yet?
Did they get to that part yet?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
And this is on Netflix.
No, it's on Peacock.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Pause.
Yeah, it's on Peacock.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Was it as dramatic bro?
Cause that's?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
way better.
It's way better than a TV showwow, wow wow, it's more raw, but
we'll talk about that anothertime let's go to Joey Badass in
the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I worded it that way just because I knew you were
going to go there, so let's gothere.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's not Joey Badass versus the West Coast, joey
Badass versus Ray Vaughn,daylight Absol and AZ Cheek I'm
not sure how to pronounce hisname.
Forgive me, but it's the dudethat's from LA.

(32:56):
They got the feature on.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Kendrick's album.
Now, how did this beef start,though?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
this rap battle start it started after Kendrick
cooked drink right and everybodywas giving praise.
And then Joey dropped a record,called the rulers back and then
, in a verse he quoted, herecited the jay-z quotable too
much west coast dick licking.
And the first person to pop outand respond to that to was Ray

(33:32):
Vaughn.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
And it was kind of mid.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Nah, that first joint was fire.
I don't know if you rememberthe first joint, First joint.
He went on for like fourminutes on that.
Oh, the first joint.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I remember I know of the.
I guess this is a newer one.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, he got like four or five joints.
Okay, okay, the first twojoints, him and Joey.
He was.
He got like four or five jointsto Joey.
Okay, okay, the first twojoints.
I think Joey lost that firstone.
I'm going to keep it a buck.
That first round to Ray VaughnJoey lost that, in my opinion.
The second round he lost two.

(34:07):
The third and fourth is when hestarted cooking, like let me
stop playing with you.
Daylight responded mid EastsideK-Boy, another one from LA
dropped.
It was tough but it wasn'tenough.
The problem that I have withthis situation it's not Joey

(34:29):
versus the West Coast, becausethe West Coast is Oakland Bay
Area you know what I'm saying.
Frisco, that whole region, it'sjust him and a few artists.
That's affiliated with TDE andKendrick, that's it so who
backing?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Joey, like who backing Joey, joey doing all
that by himself?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Joey's going to hop on a record with Joey and back
him up is Lord of Lux Well heain't going to let nobody just,
and you can't just walk over Luxon some lyrical tip.
That's not going to happen.
That ain't going to happen.
The only problem that I havewith this battle is it's
supposed to be a friendlysparring match, right?
So I think Joey and is it'ssupposed to be a friendly spa

(35:11):
match, right?
So I think Joey and Absol theycool, td, can't they cool.
I think it's a mutual respectand just trading bars.
Problem is is you can't say toomuch West Coast dick licking,
because the West Coast cats,they don't apply the same rules

(35:35):
as New Yorkers.
Their mindset is gang mentalityfirst.
So when you say something andthey respond on a record because
YG just responded to a recordlast night, right, I'm into
everything that's going on YGjust responded and they don't
care about this rappity, rapshit.

(35:56):
They making songs, but theyletting you know like dog, you
could die out here Real quick.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
So you gotta be cautious, save your life.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
You gotta be cautious when dealing because, remember,
new York is hip-hop first,right, our culture is hip-hop
first.
Our culture is hip-hop first.
Birth from gangs.
Their culture is gangs first.
Gangs is our life, not a trend,this is our life.

(36:29):
They rep blood and Crip likeChristians, and Christians rep
Jesus.
That's how they.
That's them.
Anything said that'smisconstrued is wartime for them
, right?
So you gotta be cautious whendealing with them, dudes,

(36:53):
because it might not even be therappers that want problems.
It might be the crew that takeit to the next level with with
joey.
You've seen that.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
So many times.
Yo huh, you've seen that somany times.
Yeah, like yeah I don't like.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
I, I love the west coast, I love my la people,
right, I, I love them, but I butit's also a certain way you
gotta approach them when itcomes to this.
You gotta let them know.
Look, I just want to have funrapping this.
Ain't I'm not trying to, I'mthe one thing I do, like it?
Ain't you got coming adisclaimer?
Yeah, because, because I wantpeople to understand that the

(37:31):
media would try to spin this andto be something bigger than
what it is and turn it intoanother Pac-Bank situation.
We've seen that before too.
So because both of them died onthe West Coast, right, we got
to keep it a buck.
They both died on the WestCoast, mm-hmm, right, regardless
of whatever they die, based onpeople's entourages, right?

(37:55):
You get what I'm saying.
Like they didn't have a face toface conversation.
The entourages did what theydid, right?
So my thing is Be cautious,joey, be smart.
I know you got respect for theWest Coast, but understand that
when you start taking it to them, they don't take beef the same

(38:17):
way we take beef Hip-hop beef.
We take it in a differentmanner.
But on the rapping tip, joeyyou up.
I'm just keeping it all the wayup.
Joey, you up for the last threejoints the finals, the joint
with Lux and the joint over thehit-em-up.
I mean the joint with Lux.
I think that's over thehit-em-up beat, right?
Mm-hmm, yeah, he got the jointover the hit-em-up beat.

(38:37):
He got the finals record and hegot another joint where he said
he going crazy, those lastthree.
Joey is up, okay, right, so I'mon some hip-hop.
I'm just mad that if, if we'regonna do this, if joey's gonna
do this, you can't claim joey,you claiming you the king of new

(38:57):
york.
You gotta show and prove thatin new york yeah first.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's a fact.
But if that's the case, thenwho's who's really in the arena
to battle?
If that's the case because it'slike with drill music being
pushed so heavy and then thoseartists being, you know, on in a
revolving door, in and out, inand out, in and out who is
really standing on?
Lyrical supremacy for him tosay I I'm the king, I got rid of

(39:26):
him.
Yeah, because like it's kind ofsimple for him to say that and
it be undisputed if there'snobody who believe in hip-hop in
the city like that, no more.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
But my thing is, you ain't the best lyricist in New
York City.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
No way.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Like you, ain't better than Sky Zoo.
Right, I'm just keeping it abuck.
And, to be honest, themGriselda boys got hold of New
York.
Damn, yeah, yeah, yeah, butthat's not.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And they're not from the Five Burrows.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
But if we talk about the East Coast and New York rap
and that type of lyrical rapthat we like, we can't keep
relying on Nas and Hov in thembecause they in their 50s, right
yeah For the cast that'sprevalent and really making
noise for New York State.
It's them Griselda boys.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Now I ain't going to lie.
Drumworks got some duels.
That's Conway's set.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
All the Griselda, that wholecamp, that whole camp, the BFF,
the Drumworks, you know, stoveGod Cooks, and all of them.
They the ones really over thereholding the authentic part of
what New York culture used to bedown.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
But I don't think that they would be able to go
bar for bar in a rap battle,though Maybe Conway Cause Conway
came up like that Right, likeyeah, conway got a style for
that, and also in like Bennylike you gotta go see Benny.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Especially me too, yeah, especially me too.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
But you gotta, like you asked me, you gotta go see
Benny Yo, you got.
You gotta go see the butcherLike you ask me, you got to go
see Benny.
Yo, you got to go see theButcher.
I'm sorry, yo, you got to gosee the Butcher man.
You got to get through Bennybefore you can start claiming
king of New York, like because Ilike how Westside claimed king
of New York.
But I only like that from anartistic standpoint, a cultural

(41:29):
standpoint and a point ofambition, because he's always
doing something bigger andbetter.
He's always switching it up.
He's top five in whatever he'sdoing, like if it's promotion,
he's top five.
If it's fashion, he's top five.
If it's putting out work, he'stop five.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I don't think he's top five.
I do that's because I'm fromHarlem.
I don't really think he's topfive.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I think he wear.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Gaudy jewelry, but I don't think his fits Be super
fire to me.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I follow Boise.
I follow Boise.
Boise is into the fashion.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
You see who he hang out with.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I agree with Cliff, but I don't think he's the
flyest I don't think he's theflyest, but putting up that fly
guard Monica, who really piecingoutfits together, like who's
doing it, who's saying Bam Bam,jimmy, jimmy, jimmy, no, no, no,
no no, no, hold on Jimmy dress.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
better than that dude .

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Hold on Hold on hold on hold on Cam Cam.
I'm talking fashion.
I'm not talking.
I'm talking fashion.
I'm not talking, I'm talkingfashion.
He be there, like he be there.
Fab is what Jerseys.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
No, fab ain't wearing a jersey in forever.
Fab, be putting fits together.
You gotta go to that man IG.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I'm not saying Fab is not fly, but Fab is not rapping
right now, fab is not in thelimelight like that right now.
And then it's like so I'm goingto say him for now Right, he's
still with.
No, fab is Fab, he's going tostill rap, it's in his soul.
But I'm saying who in thelimelight is saying I'm doing
fashion?
Who's saying I'm running thelabel?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Oh, a$ap Rocky.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Oh yeah, I'm running the late.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh, asap, rocky.
Oh yeah, I forgot who else.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Outside of ASAP.
Yeah, asap, I'll never takenothing from ASAP.
Asap's doing.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
ASAP, but is ASAP.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
But is ASAP music?
Is ASAP music and is Ferg musicas popping right now as
Griselda?
No, so that's what I'm tryingto say.
Who's working it like that,like that's how ASAP got there?
Definitely, but is he stillmaintaining that moniker?
He's found another avenue hegot a billion and baby mom.

(43:41):
But that's what I'm saying.
But then the hunger and thedrive is not there, or the
necessity for it is not there,but culturally.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I think ASAP still got it right.
I think A$AP still got himright, right.
I think A$AP set so many trendsearly on that people are still
following him.
People want bags.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, yeah, oh, no, guaranteed, no, guaranteed,
guaranteed, a$ap is definitely,he definitely changed the
culture, guaranteed, guaranteed,not taking that from him.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Indeed, I want to go into Fat Joe and Zip with the
Drip before we close out.
So Fat Joe, fat Joe, on the Joeand Jada podcast he was kind of
speaking out about how peopletalk, about he's all cap, you
know, and he says something likeyou know these YouTubers, you

(44:32):
know I want to go to theseYouTubers, you know, and you
know I want to go to theseYouTubers in a NYCHA project or
apartment and sit down and likehave a conversation with some of
these dudes.
We all watched Zip with theNYCHA hat on.
So Zip took it as he wastalking about him and it was

(44:55):
like some back and forth betweenZip and I think the guy's name
is Miami or something like that.
Miami or something like that.
I think he's a part of Joe'sentourage.
So they were going back andforth and supposedly patched it
out, passed it out, and but thewhole point Was that after Joe

(45:15):
said what he said, zip took itas Like a disrespect, like he
was like you think I'm pussy,I'm gonna let you come into my
spot with Two million dollarsworth of jewelry and you gonna
leave out.
Like that, that's not gonnahappen, you know what I'm saying
.
So that was his the whole backand forth with Joe and Zip Y to
leave out like that.
That's not going to happen.
So that was his.
That was his, the whole backand forth with Joe and Zip.

(45:36):
Y'all know about that.
Yeah, I heard about it.
He's an equal judge so.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I'll be honest with you.
Wow, I love Joe, but I don'tthink Joe's doing nobody's
projects with $2 million worthof jewelry.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
And he's not going by himself.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
You're not going by yourself, he's not going by
himself.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Listen, I love Joe, Fat Joe.
I love Fat Joe.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
I've been a Fat.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Joe.
Since Flo Joe Right, I've seenFat Joe go a lot of places with
no security Iced out.
I'm not going to say he hasn'tdone it before, no no, no, no no
.
But in today's era it's alittle different from back then.
You know it's a littledifferent.
I see fat these young boyshouse with seven people standing

(46:20):
with him.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
He was in his house with seven men standing around
him, like in his house, and,like you said, at times is there
, yo, when we was growing up?
The respect?
Yeah, it was different, yeah,respect was big seeing him walk
through the street, like thatwould have been like yo, it had
been like seeing the presidentyo I can make that right yo, I'm

(46:44):
gonna do that there go joeright there, yo like yeah, when
he opened up the, when he openedup the 560 store on 147th yeah
that was a hell of a feeling,right you?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
know right.
Right.
Yeah, I met fat joe on uh 167thand uh I forgot what street
that I think it's like close togerard avenue.
He was just walking through andhe was greeting people on that,
gave him a pound, said yo,what's up, shorty?
I don't know, I was like I waslike a young kid gave them a
pound, said yo, what's up,shorty?
I was like a young kid back inthem days or whatever.
He had a respect, just like yousaid, he was like the president

(47:20):
.
Back in the days Joe was thatguy in the Bronx, but now Joe
he's still a man.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
He's still got a billion Puerto Ricans that'll
ride out.
He ain't never lose no power.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
A man he's still got a billion.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Puerto Ricans that'll ride out.
He ain't never lose no power orrespect.
He never made a move.
That would be like I don'trespect that.
It's rumors about the thingwith Pun and his son and how
that whole thing went down, butit's like people kind of mind
that they business about that.
And if you look at it on agrander scale beyond that he

(47:56):
hasn't really made any moves.
That's like I don't know.
Joe, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Right, right, right, right, right.
You know well, I think they'retrying to kill his reputation,
his word with the cap.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
You know, let's keep it a buck.
This is entertainment.
Everybody's capping.
Right now.
Joe knows exactly what he'sdoing.
I'm going to say things that'sgoing to draw attention to me to
generate money.
Everybody on the internet iscapping.
None of y'all are rich, as faras certain people.
Half of y'all ain't rich.

(48:30):
All you chicks got fake butts.
You don't live in these cribs.
Everybody's capping right.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
It'd be mad funny if joe was just trolling anybody by
telling super amazing cappystories because he know
everybody else is lying.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
That would be amazing first off in this era.
Why would I tell y'all thetruth when everybody getting
locked?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
up Right, yeah, enough enough.
And it's more profitable to lie.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
nowadays, anyway, you can say you a man and be a
woman, and you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Why would I tell y'all the truth?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Why would?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I tell you the truth of my real life hood stories of
doing dirt, so I can have thefeds on me.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, that's not smart yo.
I'm going to get paid too andget paid in the first place.
Enough of nothing, yo Clear.
Some, like, shake the podcastspace up on that level a little
bit.
I see it.
I don't think, I don't think itgoes too far.

(49:38):
You know I'm saying, but I see,like you know, shake it up a
little bit, because people arenot enthralled with that show
like that.
Like they're good for now, forlegacy, definitely good
characters on their own andtrying to build a bridge toward

(50:00):
one another.
That's what I see, you knowwhat I mean, and I think it may
take.
I think a lot of people arejudging it harshly because
they're expecting so much fromout of them.
But they just starting, I think, yeah, but they just start in
like I think.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
So I think, yeah, they just starting, but I don't
think.
I think they trying to shiftaway from having to rap.
Right, yeah, but that's the, Ithink jayden just turned 50
today.
Happy birthday, jayden rightwow right I think it's getting
to a point where they realizethey're about to age out of this
.
So they're going to do theirlittle last hoorah rapping rides

(50:40):
and then off to the races doingother things.
They got to do other businessventures to make some money
because this hip hop ain'tpaying them the way it used to.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Well, joe been hustling like that, right, I
think Joe always been a hustler.
Yeah, joe, been hustling becauseJoe's claim to fame ended like
a while ago, like he's livingoff a legacy.
Right, that's how much he'slaid down in his time period
that he's now afforded theopportunity to live off legacy.
And then he's dropped thatjoint with DJ Khaled.

(51:14):
You know he put his music outevery now and again.
But I know he's already been inother ventures like that.
Kiss has been in other venturestoo, but for the most part they
seem to be like very low key,very grassroots.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
KISS and them got all these little small businesses,
not small.
Let me um small businesses.
I don't mean that like no, no,no.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I know exactly what you mean.
Yeah, but that's exactly whatit is.
That's what I'm saying toowhere they making some bread.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
So I'm not gonna take them away from them, but I
think they're finally trying tofigure out a way to remain
relevant in the young industry.
But be out the way.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I can't, I can't argue with that.
And then once you see how ummason cam laid it down.
But I think what everybody ismisconstruing with that is that
y'all not mason cam, like, likey'all don't have that.
What I'm saying is I don't havethat relationship that they had
.
Like I don't yeah, I don't havethat relationship that they had
like I don't yeah, I don't haveand that's very, very important

(52:15):
like that bounce back and forththat they do, and then, more
over, the fact that they had tocome back together and people
really fell in love with thefact that they could see that
like right, because it was likereal unifying and nostalgic to a
lot of us.
And then it was relatable,because a lot of us are going

(52:37):
our separate ways with friendsand found our ways back peace,
peace and found our ways back toone another.
So it was a very relatablesituation that drew a lot of
people in yeah, that's allmissing in this situation that
too.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
But I also think they found a niche for what they did
.
They did something differentfrom what everybody else is
doing.
Everybody else is doing hip hoppodcast, we doing a sports show
dog.
It just flips the wholenarrative to we're doing a hip
hop sports show, which thenchanges the narrative on just
the typical hip-hop topics.

(53:13):
They found a niche that'scomical and entertaining as far
as the main theme of sports.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Indeed, indeed, indeed.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I heard they got a nice little $100 million
contract coming up Wow.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Come on, man.
Your man, ken, said he's movingto Texas.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
You heard no state income taxes, listen listen, I'm
going to keep it a buck.
I got a house waiting for me.
I got a house waiting for me inTexas eventually.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I want to move out there too.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I want to move out there.
It's black out there too.
I want to move out there too.
I love listen, I want to moveout there.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
It's black out there, so I want to move out.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
No, houston is hot houston is you get your money's
worth when I say, unlike anyother state, I've seen you get
the side.
When they say everything isbigger in texas.
Pause, everything is literallybigger in texas.
The money that we paying forrent is giving people five
bedroom homes, baby.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
How about the commute ?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
As long as you got a car, you good money.
But you got to understand thesesupermarkets.
It's called HEB and all of thatright.
Those supermarkets is biggerthan Walmart.
Wow With way with whole foods,quality food.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Damn bro.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
What's happening?
New York is going on a down.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
New York is sinking.
New York is the island itselfis sinking.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, manhattan.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah, manhattan is sinking bro.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Hey yo, you know what they talking about.
Doing about that too.
They talking about and thiswill be amazing to see in our
lifetime.
Don't get it twisted, butthey're actually talking about
expanding Manhattan again, likethe way that they expanded it
the first time through trash andcompost and so on and so forth.
They're actually talking aboutexpanding Manhattan one more

(55:12):
time.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
That's another toll.
That's another toll we got onemore time.
That's another toll.
That's another toll we got todeal with.
That's more traffic, that'smore rats, more raccoons.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
That's a hell of a more rats and raccoons.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yo real quick.
Before we close out, I justwant to say rest in peace to
Charles Ringo of Harlem, harlemlegend.
Oh wow, congressman, he justpassed at 94, 94 years old, yeah
.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Rest in peace to Charles Ringo, definitely a
legend in our, especially for us.
Harlem Knights, us older HarlemKnights that grew up in a time
where we still looked at our, Ilooked at our, our, you know our
politicians and our leaders andour respect coming up for our
generation I can't speak for theyounger ones, they really don't
have no connection to him Right, for us coming up the way that

(56:03):
we came up, especially in Harlem, they taught us a lot, like we
will.
We was black history and Harlemblack history was really
embedded in our generation.
We was black history and Harlemblack history was really
embedded in our generation,right?
So, yeah, rest in peace to thatguy.
You know he did a lot for Harlem.
Behind that, you know, thereare a lot of people don't talk
about.
I hope you get a building inhis name, like out of play of

(56:24):
power, did you know what I'msaying?
I hope he gets some sort ofstreet named after him, cause he
did a lot for us in a time whenwe was still all black in the
city.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Indeed, indeed, indeed, Yo on that note.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Nah, before we close out, hold on Hold on before we
close out.
Oh, your team is down by fiveright now.
Yeah, I'm looking At half Athalf.
At half it's going to be a goldone.
It's going to be a gold one.
It's going to be a realhigh-scoring competitive game.
We might be able to pull theseout.
These are the games that theKnicks pull out.

(57:00):
The games that the Knicks pullout are the games where they
have to claw back.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
But you've got to pull this one out.
If you don't pull this one out,it might be over.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
No, no, I'm not going to argue with you if they this
is open when we go back toindiana.
Anyway, don't get it twisted,we're not surviving too many
games in indiana, like.
But I wanted to say this yo,last weekend I was, I um, last
weekend I put up that astorbrown, um moses tatuma, uh uh,
nathaniel collins card.

(57:29):
I put that up, I put thatticket up.
I hope somebody took thatticket yo, cause I was at the
window waiting on you.
Yo, I was at the window waitingon you with that.
I was at the window waiting onyou with the Terry Harper, uh,
uh, uh, uh, um, uh, maxie Hughes, I was at the window waiting on
you guys, man, you gotta getwith me.

(57:51):
I was at the window waiting ony'all, man, this morning,
wednesday morning, um, we gotthe guy sugar new year's over
here.
27 wins, 27 knockouts, one lossfighting in japan against nori
rakishi.
Nori rakishi is 17 wins with 11knockouts.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
One loss.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
This is for a vacant belt right and a lot of people
not going to agree with me onthis.
A lot of people going to gowith Sugar Nunez on this, a lot
of people going to take theknockout on this.
And I just want to warn youabout a few things.

(58:34):
Rikishi is a hell of a boxer.
Sugar Nunez ain't fought a goodfighter in five years.
Sugar Nunez been fightingpeople that been 39 and 40, 37
years old for five straightyears.
Be careful, it is more of a50-50 fight than you think it is

(58:57):
.
It is more of a 50-50 fightthan you think it is.
Me personally, this morning mymoney is going on the Japanese
man.
His fight is in Japan.
I think he's a better boxer andI don't think he gives Sugar
Nunez the Mexican brawl thathe's coming for.
Japanese fighters have seenPlenty of Mexican style fighters

(59:21):
.
Sugar Nunez hasn't been toJapan yet he's been.
He came up more or less in thatCOVID era In boxing.
In the COVID era there were alot of I don't want to say
tomato cans, but I want to saythere were a lot of I don't want
to say tomato cans, but I wantto say there were a lot of
Unfair bouts, just to keepthings entertaining, help build
up some names and so on and soforth.

(59:42):
And Sugar Nunez, in my opinion,is one of them.
Rikishi is plus 175 tonight.
Y'all, meet me at the window.
Indeed, rikishi is plus 175tonight.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Y'all, meet me at the window Indeed.
Oh, right, on cue, on that note, and I appreciate that Shawnee
On that note shouts out toeverybody on the chat.
I really appreciate y'all forviewing the podcast.
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We're everywhere you can viewus.
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