October 23, 2025 • 66 mins
A vampire story is just the surface. We dive into Sinners to track how sound becomes a force that heals, reveals, and threatens power, and why a single gold coin can undo a whole town. With Wise Asia, we trace the twins’ maker-and-owner ambition, the juke joint vision that bends past and future, and the way a community’s heartbeat can be stolen when greed sets the tempo. We go deep on frequency, vibration, and the bayou sciences that use bones, botanicals, and precise words to shield doors—nothing spooky, just energy and attention turned into protection.
Sammy’s gift anchors the story: a voice that pierces the veil and reminds us that music is social technology. Around him, we examine the pastor’s authority versus integrity, and how uniforms of purity don’t equal truth. We unpack how novelty—Irish beer, Italian wine—sells as status while masking extraction, echoing real histories where distribution masqueraded as ownership and left neighborhoods emptied. The mill, born as a freedom plan, becomes a trap the moment its foundation turns false, showing how dreams collapse when built on lies.
The women in Sinners set the compass. Smoke’s partner names the cost, prays with purpose, and chooses refinement over turning; the mulatto lover refuses counsel and becomes the spark that tears the town. Through them we see the fork between attention and appetite. By the end, the survivors make the lesson plain: keep your word, price your life above the coin, and tune your frequency with aim. The song will outlast the night, but only if we protect the singers and refuse the mirrors that predators flash.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:11):
Peace world, peace world.
Apologies for the delay.
There was a miscommunication.
I take full accountability forthat.
So apologies to all you know forhaving you all waiting.
That's my apologies.
But with not further ado, wehave the Earth veteran on this
(00:34):
platform.
The sister wise Asia.
Peace, sister.
How you doing?
SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
Peace, big brother.
Mike, I'm good.
I'm good with the family inVegas right now.
SPEAKER_04 (00:46):
So all right, cool, cool.
That's beautiful.
She's out there enjoyingherself.
That's beautiful.
So how you feel?
Other than that, outside ofbeing in Vegas, like how's the
health?
Everything else is good.
SPEAKER_00 (00:59):
Everything is good.
Um, what you call it?
It's it's a little culture shockto me because my daughter has a
lot of life.
She has a husband, she got twochildren, she has three pets, so
it's a lot of life in here.
SPEAKER_04 (01:19):
Yeah, a lot of activity.
And uh, for the listeners andviewers, apologies again.
Don't forget to comment, like,share, subscribe.
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There are many things in theworks.
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(01:40):
Peace to the comment section,peace to the divine God Allah,
peace to him and the fivepercent nation, peace to the
gods, peace to the earth.
You know, you know, you gotta beright in the Zach when dealing
with that audience.
So gotta we're gonna be talkingabout the movie Sinners, and
(02:01):
you're gonna take us through asupreme breakdown of it, right?
SPEAKER_00 (02:06):
I have to go ahead.
Yeah, so let's go from thebeginning to the end and jump in
with your questions when we getto that part.
Or do you have like generalquestions?
SPEAKER_04 (02:26):
General questions, but go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (02:27):
You could you could you could you could um so um I'm
flesh, like you know what Imean?
I'm flesh.
So the movie center attracted mefor the main actor.
I love his um Michael B.
Jordan, his acting range, youknow, him playing um twins.
(02:50):
I think he did an excellent job.
So that's what first uminterests me about the movie.
I'm not really um into spookismand vampirism and all those
other kinds of isms.
Um, I see them symbolically,like uh Laj Muhammad said 10
(03:13):
percenters are rich slave makersof the poor.
So that's what I see as avampire, somebody who's sucking
your life, you know, notnecessarily somebody who's gonna
bite you on the neck and makeyou change and you gotta get
stabbed with a you know what Imean.
(03:35):
So, you know, um, so yeah, sothat that's the but the movie
had um so many layers.
There's so many sciences thatare revealed in that movie that
can hardly be detected by thenaked eye.
(03:58):
Um so all right, so the firstthing is student enrollment,
right?
We talk about um the originalman.
So, right, the the star of theshow is Michael B.
Jordan, the original man, andthe original man is a maker and
the owner.
(04:19):
So in the movie, he's um he hebought a mill so he can have a
jukebox, so he could have hisown business back in his
hometown.
Because he in the story, you sawthe movie, right?
SPEAKER_04 (04:36):
Yes, I did.
I did.
SPEAKER_00 (04:38):
Did you like it?
I should have asked you thatfirst.
Did you like it?
I loved it.
I uh huh.
SPEAKER_04 (04:48):
You said repeat that what you said.
SPEAKER_00 (04:50):
I said, did you like it?
SPEAKER_04 (04:52):
It was good, it was a good movie, you know, a lot of
scientific stuff behind it.
If you had, if you know,everybody from different school
of thought may view it, may haveyou a differently, different
perspective, a lot of esotericthings, occult things in there,
some folklore.
SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
Yes, I want to talk about that.
I want to get into that, butlet's you know apple sauce it
before we get to the steak andthe potatoes.
So, boom, okay, so that's thefirst thing we're gonna show and
prove, right?
That um the main character wasdealing with being the maker and
(05:34):
the owner, which is a naturalstate for an original man.
That's not, you know, uh somegrand wizard science.
You know, that's natural to be amaker and an owner.
That's in the black man'snature.
So we see him doing that, and wesee him um being a savage in the
(05:58):
pursuit of happiness becausehe's killing, you know, he kills
for the gold.
Um he stole, right?
With if you pay attention to thestory, because what was it?
Italian wine and Irish beer,Irish beer to sell in the mill
(06:19):
in the jukebox place, yeah, andthe Italian wine.
So he he um smoke, I think,because the other one is
stacked, um, yeah, so Saks isthe one with the grafted chip,
and smoke is the one settingthings up, but Smoke is also a
(06:44):
teacher because you see him withthe young lady um where he asked
her to watch his truck.
Yeah, he was like, uh-uh, wetalking numbers, and when we
talk in numbers, we have to makeit match or something like that,
something along those lines.
(07:06):
Yeah, so he said 10 cents isjust not gonna be enough.
So she's like 50 cents, and he'slike 20, she's like done, so
boom.
I like that because it let meknow that he's at the edge, but
he's not all the way over, andum the respect he had, and then
(07:34):
it shows how he valued hisreputation when the people was
trying to steal it from histruck, and he still shot him.
He said, Why you still shot me?
He said, Because I can't havenobody talking about I almost
dropped the twins, so that letsyou look, yes, yes, yes, because
(07:56):
Sam travels, right?
And he wants to be absolutelyclear that me and my brother are
not people that you play with,play in the playground, but not
with me and my brother.
So um, yes, I love that.
(08:17):
You know, I'm all about um um myteeth smoke, right?
That's in my culture, it's in myDNA.
Um, so yes, so now let's fastforward to smoke woman, right?
He got him a nice knowledge soy,and that's the sister from the
(08:40):
bayou that deals with unseensciences, but they're seen and
heard everywhere because I thinkthat's her voice in the
beginning when it says somepeople um have the music in them
so true that it pierces the veilbetween life and death.
SPEAKER_04 (09:05):
Yes, yes, it does.
SPEAKER_00 (09:08):
So um the first thing that popped into my mind
was um the Greeks' first musicalinstrument.
You see it in cartoons, it lookslike a U.
Oh like that.
And it got the string, and it'scalled the liar.
The liar the liar.
SPEAKER_03 (09:28):
Yeah.
So I was like, go ahead.
Let's see where you go withthis.
SPEAKER_00 (09:37):
Yeah, because they're not like us, like um
like I know we have fun guys,right?
That's that's our because we'realways making music to the
rhythm of our heartbeat.
That's how come we're always,yes, let's get it.
(09:58):
So, and we make we we we makeyou know musical instruments out
of anything, anything, beerblack, you know, pieces of
metal.
We take the cactus and hammer inthe nails, because that's how
that's the first Moroccas.
So, and then the congas, we takethe skin over the wood, the
(10:22):
animal skin, yeah, over thewood.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that's so yes.
So she's breaking down how thatsame science is called different
things in Ghana.
Um, who else does she say?
I know Ghana is the last one.
(10:43):
The Bantu people in Africa, yes,yes, and she says somebody else,
and she said you, but it's thesame thing.
And she was like, these voiceshave the power to heal community
again.
Sam travels, right?
(11:04):
So, and then the power in words,because we have the 11th degree
in the one of 14, right?
Have you not heard that yourword is born?
Yes, my word is born, and bornis life, and I'll give my life
before my word shall fail.
So you're giving life, you'resinging, right?
(11:25):
You're singing from your soulbecause we call it soul music.
So you sing it from your soul,and you giving your life to
others, and some have so muchpower in that that they can heal
communities, and we know fromscience for every action,
(11:47):
there's an opposite and equalreaction.
So while you have this power toheal, you also have the power to
attract negativity, becomechallenged, right?
So, why did why did God makedevil right to show forth his
(12:08):
power that he is all wise andrighteous?
And I stopped giving up thesedegrees on here.
Somebody gonna come and pop meup.
SPEAKER_04 (12:18):
No, you're sharing, like you know, you know, with
all due respect, you sharing.
SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
So, yeah, I am sharing, and it is coming from a
pure heart, but everybody don'tsee things the same way, but
yeah, back to the to the to themovie, right?
So little Sammy, he has thepower, so they show.
(12:44):
I love that scene.
That's my favorite scene in thewhole movie when he sings in the
juke, and you hear the beat toset it off, and then you see the
past, you see, you see the umlike the tribes and huh?
SPEAKER_04 (13:00):
Yep, you see the past, present, and the future.
SPEAKER_00 (13:02):
Yes, oh my god, I love that part of the movie.
So to me, that was the meat,that was the steak and potatoes
of the movie right there.
And um that's what attractedthat um Caucasian vampire, and
(13:24):
he wanted all he wanted to dowas get the sins, right?
He wanted to use he wanted touse him as a tool and also a
slave, and keep him blind anddeaf to his own self, exactly,
(13:45):
and I believe he was um beforewe go further into that.
SPEAKER_04 (13:48):
Uh, I think was it smoker stacks who's dealing with
that half sister that was halfmember, half European, so half
European, half um Africandescent, and something he had
like a love affair with her.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Yes, yeah, and he still with her, yeah, because in
the end, you see them togetheras vampires, yes, but it comes
to she she corrupted him becausethey you know corrupted her
because of stubbornness, yourown stubbornness.
(14:24):
She don't know how to listen,exactly.
SPEAKER_04 (14:27):
So she got messed up out there.
But the science of that movie,again, as you said, this it it
explains the travel of sound,the science of sound, science of
frequency, vibration, the power,as you said, of healing or
destroying.
You know, and it's it's someit's a movie that should be
(14:47):
watched without the without fromnot from the lens of looking for
entertainment, but fromunderstanding different
perspectives of high sciences.
And I say high sciencesrespectfully.
I'm not trying to kick onspookism to nobody because you
know, you say tomato, I saytomato.
But we have you know the theperspective, you know, different
perspectives, but you know, it'sthis it comes to a place of
(15:10):
where we where we haveunderstanding of what's taking
place.
SPEAKER_00 (15:14):
So I agree.
Because even when they show youum smokes girl, right?
When she's throwing the bonesand she's coming up with
different sciences, and she waslike, This is something
different.
See, she was the one that reallydid the knowledge because she
(15:34):
was like, Your fat ass beencoming in in and out of here all
day.
Why you need an invitation?
And she's like, Nah, this ain'tright, da-da-da-da-da.
So then she took, and and thisis what I huh, it reminded me of
family, like she took what wasin her kitchen to create
(16:00):
protection and awareness to thebest of her ability with what
she had.
So I was like, like, yes, yes,because a lot of people they
think um they hear like voodooor or santerima or whatever, and
(16:27):
they get really spooky.
Like for somebody to not bespooky, you get real spooky real
quick, of course.
Because you don't under, yeah,you don't understand the
periodic table, you don'tunderstand your human
composition, talk that talk, andyou don't understand the science
(16:47):
of alchemy.
SPEAKER_04 (16:49):
Talk that talk, sister.
Go, yo, talk that talk.
It's just science, man.
All that does alchemy, it'senergy and alchemy, man.
That's all it is, and um knowingthe plants, what the plants, the
power of the plants, being abotanist at the same time.
SPEAKER_00 (17:08):
Because people don't don't understand, like you just
witness the flame, you justwitness the flame, like that's
alchemy right there.
I just changed oxygen intocarbon dioxide right in front of
(17:32):
everybody's eye.
Talk about it, and with that,I'm keeping plants alive, and by
me keeping plants alive, I'mkeeping animals alive.
So you can't see my breathunless it was super bad, right?
(17:54):
But um, nah, but you can't seeit unless the temperature
dropped, and you would see fromthe heat of the body coming into
the cold of the planet.
So then you would be able to seeit.
But there are so many things youcan't see your bones, but you
know they there, you can feelthem.
(18:17):
I have a skeleton, I can't seeit, I can't tell you what color
it is right now.
I can't even tell you the truecolor of my blood because it's
the oxygen.
When my blood hits the oxygen inthe atmosphere, it changes to
red.
SPEAKER_04 (18:35):
Oxygenated blood.
That's it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:38):
So people don't understand these things.
So when they see a scene likeSmokes Girl throwing the little
bones or whatever she had, andtelling everybody to eat that
garlic mixture and stuff likethat, they get real spooky real
(18:58):
quick.
SPEAKER_04 (19:01):
But that comes from stigmas people have with
anything that does spirituality.
Some people assume spiritualitymeans that you must sit in
somebody's church in someone'spew, watching somebody in the
pulpit, jump up and down, shout,ask for money, open your Bibles.
That's not it.
There's different passages.
There are different methods ofcommunicating with your higher
(19:24):
self, the higher power.
You understand?
I say that respectfully.
This is why I don't I don't getengaged in a certain school of
thoughts, go at somebody else'syou know, perspective or
practice, because I'll be like,you know, what works for you may
not work for them, and viceversa.
It's good for the goose, it'sgood for the gander.
(19:44):
As long as you whatever youstudy and whatever your beliefs
or practices are keeps yourighteous and exact.
Yes, you know, behaving as afool, I'm all for it.
But if it's anything that's cultlike, I don't want no parts of
it.
So um I'm uh I'm back.
Huh?
SPEAKER_00 (20:05):
That's that's what that's what I was talking about
the first time I got on y'allshow, and that's in the
mathematics because knowledge isalso respect, it's not just
collecting data, it's respectingthe source of the data, the
(20:29):
actual data, the actualinformation respecting it.
I don't have to agree with you.
I don't it may not necessarily,I'm I may not have the
experience that you have, so Ican't understand what you
understand.
(20:49):
Like I never know what it is tobe a man, never, no matter how
many dudes I hang out with, nomatter how many speeches I hear
from men, I will not ever knowwhat it is to be a man.
So you know what I mean?
There are just some things thatare not meant for me.
(21:13):
I have a path that's for me tolearn, for me to teach, and for
me to be.
And what what I'm gonna stealfrom Erica Badu.
The man that knows somethingknows that he knows nothing at
all.
SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
And he's a bullish, actually in God, but if you was
just yo, you took it.
SPEAKER_04 (21:50):
You know, that's my jam right there.
So I'm gonna, you know, as thegods say, in peace to them, they
want to go from knowledge toborn, right?
So I'm gonna ask you a fewquestions.
SPEAKER_00 (22:01):
Sure.
SPEAKER_04 (22:02):
Each question comes from the perspective of supreme
mathematics, and please again, Idon't come in the name of Allah.
I'm not, I'm just askingquestions, right?
No, I'm just I just want to putthat disclaimer out there.
You know what I'm saying?
So how does the I how does theidea of knowledge manifest
(22:23):
through the characterself-awareness or denial of
truth in sinners?
SPEAKER_00 (22:28):
So, first thing, knowledge is infinite, so it
can't be denial.
So um that's that's one and theacceptance of who you are, where
you are, when you are, and whatyou are, that's that's the
(22:52):
knowledge, that's the infinity.
SPEAKER_04 (22:59):
And that's how it manifests to each character,
each character knew hadknowledge of who they are and
what look at the twins.
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
The twins knew, so they're really in the one to 36.
Their characters are really theone to 36 because they got led
to Chicago because someonepromised them more than what
that they would earn more thanwhat they was earning, and they
(23:30):
got into a war because they werepromised that they would get
more than what they was earning.
That's how come from all fromall the times they had got
tricked, that's how come theystole from the Italians and the
Irish and bought that back hometo make a profit off who off
(23:52):
their own people.
SPEAKER_04 (23:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
You know what I mean?
Because he's he had a time limitwhen smoke talks to his brother
Sack, he's telling them in threemonths we out of here.
SPEAKER_02 (24:11):
I remember that.
SPEAKER_00 (24:12):
We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna get this and that,
and then boom, let's take thatfrom the knowledge to the
understanding because knowledgeand understanding is one and the
same.
So he was giving his brother aclear mental picture, and all
stack wanted was money.
Money, money, money, money.
That's all he cared about.
(24:34):
That was his foundation for hismotion.
SPEAKER_04 (24:38):
Gotcha.
And we we we also got to add thepart that although the movie had
original people in there, italso had the a few Indians in
there, too.
That was the devil.
SPEAKER_00 (24:49):
Joe, let me tell you something about them Indian that
came to them white people, Zor.
I say, yo, they a special kindof people, and and no shame, no
shame.
They they was a special kind ofpeople because that white lady
lied in his face.
(25:10):
And because she she's anotherone that was left.
When that um when that vampireshowed her the gold, yeah, they
they let him in.
They let him the motherfuckingskin was on fire.
(25:35):
And you're gonna let this crazycrazy, but they saw that over
the morality, the greed, so thegreed.
SPEAKER_04 (25:48):
Being that we went through the qu the the question
from a knowledge perspective,right?
This this is coming from in thecategory of wisdom, right?
Does the does the film suggestthat wisdom can exist without
moral purity?
SPEAKER_00 (26:05):
Yes, yes, that's the uh that's really what I got from
that.
Because I just finished sayinghow smoke and stack and that
white lady are led by greed.
And see, that devu that thatthat hierarchy vampire, he knew
that.
That's how come he kept flashingthat gold coin.
(26:27):
Notice he didn't give it tonobody.
He just kept flashing it, right?
SPEAKER_03 (26:35):
That's a fact.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
So and he told and he told Snoop after he turned
his brother, he told Snoop, um,you can't use this anyway.
So wisdom is a manifestation ofknowledge.
(26:57):
So it whether you're doingrighteousness or deathment, you
still gonna be manifesting yourknowledge, and your knowledge
may not be my knowledge.
Because remember, there's 85,10, and five.
So out of every hundred people,uh let me say I said that wrong.
(27:19):
Out of every 99 people, every 99people that I meet, because I
make the hundred and I make thefive, only four people out of 99
people are my people.
95 people.
So I'm used to being alone.
I'm used to being the unalike.
(27:40):
But when I see that I'm theunalike and I'm alone, that's
how news usually know I'm doingright.
I get leery when I see peopledoing well.
I'll be like, wait, hold on.
Why, why, you know, those youoff.
I'm like, wait a minute, you I'mreally with family because I'm
not used to that.
(28:02):
I'm used to being the underlight.
SPEAKER_04 (28:07):
So I got you.
I respect that.
So in in terms of understanding,right, with respect to the
movies, how doesmisunderstanding between
generation youth versus adultsreflect the lack of divine
understanding?
SPEAKER_00 (28:22):
Good question.
So they show that in sinnerswith um little Sammy and his
father, the pastor.
Because his father, becauseremember, we don't get to see
his father when he was blind,deaf and dumb.
We hear the story about him andhow he used how he did that dirt
(28:46):
to build that church, and so hestays hard on his son.
Because in the beginning,remember, he he told him to
quote something, and he told himto read from the book, but Sammy
closes it and quotes the wholeand goes even further.
(29:07):
So that shows the wholegeneration, and even when Sammy
kept his word, his word wasborn.
He told his father, listen, Iworked all week, I want to be
free of this for one night, andI'll be back in the morning for
service.
And he came back in the morningfor service, but he couldn't let
(29:29):
go.
That guitar was trash, yeah.
But he he couldn't let go.
And then look at look at the thethe scene of the church is so
powerful for me because it showsyou how blind, deaf, and dumb
the 85 are because everybody'sdressed in white robes,
(29:52):
everybody's dressed the same.
And what does my clothes have todo?
Do with my spirituality.
Why do I need to symbolize toyou who I am when your flesh and
your um vulnerable to the samethings I'm vulnerable to?
(30:17):
I have a divine, according tothe Bible, I have a divine
connection with my creator.
He created me in his image.
And he's only gonna give methings that I can handle.
The things he gives you are foryou to handle.
He knows your worth, he knows myworth.
(30:39):
And then this is the shit that Ifuck with my family all the
time.
They hate me for this shit righthere.
I'll be like, how we going tohell when that is the whole
point of Jesus dying on thecross?
SPEAKER_04 (30:58):
That's deep.
Why do I fear death?
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Don't let's not, but it's afact, though.
Some people misconstrue things,they don't interpret their own
interpretation because they willsay, All right, through Christ I
found everlasting life.
So I don't know what death isbecause as the story goes, died
(31:22):
for our sins, right?
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
Yes, so nobody, nobody goes to hell no more.
Nobody goes to hell no more,according to what the Bible
says.
(31:49):
So again, why like why are wegoing to church?
SPEAKER_04 (31:58):
Listen, like you know, the people again, that
happens when you have a lack ofknowledge of self.
When you when you because youneed an intimate intimate
intermediary to help youcommunicate with your eye of
power to guide you, you knowwhat I'm saying?
So they they may say, Oh, that'sour enlightener.
It's the pastor, but pastor'sjust a bone man just like you.
(32:19):
You're just reading the samepassage every weekend, you're
not going through the entiretyof the book, and it doesn't stop
there within that one book.
You gotta go touch the otherbooks as well.
But that's not the conversationfor something else.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's anotherconversation.
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
So yeah, I was understanding, of course.
SPEAKER_04 (32:41):
So we go on culture of freedom, right?
How does the town's culturecreate the mental and moral
confinement the girls reactagainst?
SPEAKER_00 (32:52):
So before smoke and stat got there, we saw a
beautiful culture.
It was a beautiful culture.
People were working, people wereworking in the field, people
were owning shops, they wereworking in shops, they were
supporting their local umbusiness, right?
(33:17):
And um, and we saw all types ofculture, like um, oh, what's
that old actor's name that wasplaying the harmonica?
SPEAKER_04 (33:30):
Oh, there were Lindo.
SPEAKER_00 (33:34):
So we saw culture, his culture was alcohol, um, and
music.
That's all he lived for.
Yeah, he he ain't even reallycare about the money because
when he was talking about thejute joint he played every
Saturday, they he admitted thatthey wasn't really paying him,
(33:56):
but he had all the beer he coulddrink.
SPEAKER_02 (33:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (34:00):
And he played the piano, right?
He played the piano for them,and he and the money wasn't even
living him.
That stack was offering him.
He said, Shit, you ain't paying$20 a night, maybe$20 tonight.
You ain't paying any night, youknow what I mean?
(34:22):
So that that was his culture,that was an individual's
culture, and then, like I said,we saw a thriving community,
right?
Yeah, even the mulatto girl, shehad just buried her mother who
had midwife and nursed thetwins, and um, so yeah, so you
(34:44):
know, we saw the culture, we sawthe way of life, and we saw how
just two men who came in withlust and greed destroyed that
whole town.
SPEAKER_03 (34:58):
Because they came.
SPEAKER_00 (35:01):
Yeah, they came and they took people out the fields
and they promised them more goldthan what they was already
earning, and like foods, theywent running for that gold and
lost their life.
That town ain't that town is nomore.
SPEAKER_04 (35:21):
Exactly.
Talk about it.
Power and refinement, and thisone right here is is deep.
What moments in the moviesymbolize refinement or
cleansing of guilt?
SPEAKER_00 (35:37):
When um Smoke's girl is getting ready to die.
She said, 'I got some.' Shesaid, 'Promise me, if one of
them bite me, you're gonna takeme out before I turn.
I have somebody on the otherside waiting for me.
And when he dies, that's whenyou see her again with the
(36:00):
little girl.
So it kind of shows um, becausehis word was life, because he
told that white man, if I seeyou or any of your clans went on
my um property, I'ma shoot y'alldead, right where y'all stand.
Yep.
And he was ready for them, andhe did, and he get he get shot.
(36:25):
And um when he's getting readyto die, you see him with the
vision of her.
So that was his purity.
Because you see how she's in thewhite, the little girls in the
white, and and his his uh facialuh reaction is that of peace,
(36:47):
where he looks at her because hehe really loved her.
SPEAKER_04 (36:52):
Yes, he did.
I seen that throughout themovie.
He did love her, you know.
Though he was doing like youknow, his lifestyle, she she did
not, she didn't agree with hislifestyle, but she still the
power of love, she still watchedover him, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (37:05):
And she told him, she said, every day I pray for
you and your crazy ass brother.
SPEAKER_04 (37:15):
Yeah, I mean go watch that movie again.
That was that movie was a goodmovie.
Oh man, in terms of equality,we're gonna jump into the
equality part.
Um can equal.
SPEAKER_00 (37:30):
No, no, no.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Uh uh.
SPEAKER_04 (37:33):
Can equ can equality exist in society built on
judgment and shame?
SPEAKER_00 (37:39):
That is the equality, the judgment and the
shame.
But can it because people sharethat thought equally?
Like, yes, they do.
I I'm I'm a true daughter of thelaw, I'm a true five percenter.
I'm a judgy motherfucker.
I judge all the time, I judgeall the time, all the fucking
(38:03):
time.
I judge what I want to eat.
I mean, I have to judge, it'sit's a part of intellect.
Do I want to?
I'm not a fool.
unknown (38:15):
Of course.
SPEAKER_00 (38:15):
Malcolm X say, if you don't stand for something,
you fall for anything.
SPEAKER_04 (38:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Gotta use discernment.
You gotta, you know, as you guyssay, do the knowledge on the
person.
SPEAKER_00 (38:27):
So I'm a judge, I'm gonna judge, I'm gonna listen to
you, right?
I'm gonna do the knowledge, andI'm gonna see are your words
matching your actions?
That's the first judgment I'mdoing, and just because you
passed that test, don't thinkyou could fool me.
Like I got I got brothers andsisters in the culture that that
(38:52):
I didn't call out their shit,right?
Because I learned to keep it inmy pocket till I need it, and
when they ready to hear it, Ilet them know.
This is why I don't fuck withyou on this day.
You revealed, and thus forth,this is why.
(39:15):
You know what I mean?
But right now, they I don't knowwhat they think.
I know what they did, I know howI digested the information, and
I just keep it's they're notready yet.
You know, some people gottaspend a little more time, it's
(39:35):
just like a baby.
Some people are born at 38weeks, some at 40, some at 41,
some at 42.
SPEAKER_04 (39:44):
Time and place for everything.
So being that we're still inequality, I want to ask another
one on equality.
How does each character's sinreflect an imbalance between
equality and ego?
SPEAKER_00 (39:59):
Oh, that's a good one.
So, because I love Michael B.
Jordan's character, the twins,right?
So we saw them, right?
Because they led by money,right?
And they'll do anything formoney.
They'll rob, they'll steal,they'll kill, all in the name of
(40:20):
more money, more gold, right?
But they tell you in the moviethat that vampire dude tells him
all of that is based on a lie.
You ain't gonna never get that.
He said this was aslaughterhouse, and they come in
(40:41):
here to kill you.
Yeah, so you see the equalityand the imbalance.
You see, you can even say theyshowed you their justice.
SPEAKER_04 (40:55):
Oh, yes, they did.
That's that part spoke in manyvolumes because it's like
similar how it was it was a madthat mill became a madhouse that
he tried to build, right?
It also shows how the so-calledurban community, the ghetto, is
that where our people thrive,black and brown tend to thrive
at, you know, try to do theirbest.
(41:17):
They somehow stifled, theystuck, they stipled, not somehow
they did with the drugs in ourcommunity.
We could go further back to theheroin epidemic, and then from
the heroin came the crackepidemic, and they made you
believe that, you know, if I'mif I'm out there selling this to
my people, like the twins weredoing the movie, the alcohol and
all that, I'm making a dollar,not knowing that you're killing
your people in the process, andthey set you up for that to
(41:40):
build a case up against you,come back in, take you up out of
your home, put you in jail, andthere you there it goes.
You was never a real drugdealer, you was just uh you
know, I call it a distributor.
Yeah, you just a distributor,dealers.
SPEAKER_00 (41:56):
Yeah, you're a gopher, because you didn't
manufacture anything, youdistributed.
SPEAKER_04 (42:03):
Exactly.
You're not even a dealer, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (42:09):
That's a fact, man.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (42:11):
So yeah, we saw that we saw um where uh who else?
Oh Sammy, Sammy's character.
You saw his equality because hestood true to his own self, even
though he went to the edge, hestood true, and that's how come
(42:31):
he's the only survivor you seein that movie from that scene.
SPEAKER_03 (42:36):
Yeah, that was him in the gene, right?
SPEAKER_00 (42:39):
Yeah, he had he still had the mark from when
that um vampire scratched hisface, yeah.
He still he still had that markon his face, and that's so so
you that that makes me thinkabout the lesson.
So he can always keep in mindthat if he ever revealed the
(43:01):
secret, and then look who comesto see him at the end, stacked
with the mulatto chip.
And you could see their equalitybecause love is a high level of
understanding, and understandingis a clear mental picture of
what something truly is and notwhat it seems to be, and she
(43:25):
really loved him, right?
She learned how to fight fromhim, she learned how to speak
his language and um what youcall it, but she wouldn't listen
to him whenever he pushed heraway.
SPEAKER_04 (43:41):
Never.
SPEAKER_00 (43:43):
She was like, no, no, and at the end, even when
all the vampires were murdered,you still saw them two together,
and it looked like they was inthe 80s because she had the
bamboo in her.
He had the shades and the cut,and he had the he had the um
coolie um sweater, so they wasgiven like late 80s, a mid-80s
(44:11):
kind of vibe, and I think Ithink that movie starts.
I think it's like the 1930s,1930s, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (44:24):
1930s, there was a lot of messages behind it.
SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
Yeah, so they're all the way in the 80s, you know.
Sammy getting ready to die, andthen he leave.
Oh, yeah, and he and he had theum four finger name ring with
the stack.
SPEAKER_04 (44:41):
So, yeah, they were definitely in the 80s, they were
in the like where it came, thepoison transcended to each
generation.
The devil manifests in manyforms, as you guys quoted.
SPEAKER_00 (44:55):
Yeah, people don't understand that because my
favorite degree degree to quoteis um the fourth degree and the
one of four teams, because ittalks about um why did we run
Yaakoub and his made devil fromthe root of civilization across
the High Arabian desert into thecase of West Asians they now
(45:18):
call Europe, you go into otherstuff, but what's imperative to
me in that question, or ratherin the answer, well, in the
question, because why did we runYaqu and his maid devil from the
root of so you could have hadthe devil anywhere.
(45:44):
Anywhere, he could have beenanywhere because the earth has
three parts a best part, a poorpart, and a worse part.
So you had the devil and theroot of civilization.
That's an opportunity phrase.
So, yeah, so when I see um umlike movies like that or scenes
(46:16):
like that where um dude like soso we saw that the grafted devil
perish, and we saw a lot of theother vampires perish.
But um stack and and his graftedone, yeah, right, and his
(46:39):
grafted stood together throughdecades, right?
Because we were talking aboutequality, right?
That's how spiraled down intohere.
So that was they they equality,that was they they bond that
they shared.
They really did have um a lovethat was found.
(47:04):
Like when you was asking aboutthe inequality with the
equality, that's that's aperfect example of that as well.
SPEAKER_04 (47:14):
It is right there, because it is it's transcended,
yeah.
And it was because of herbecause she was the first one to
yes, she was.
She's the first one, and hercoming back in after she was
infected got the whole place inthe upper part of the place fell
(47:35):
apart because it fell apartbecause of her.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:38):
Now, now see a lot of women.
So see, I always tell Supreme,these lessons are not for women,
these lessons are for menbecause a woman knows she's a
woman.
Whether she's blind, deaf, ordumb, she knows she's a woman.
(48:00):
If she's a home, she's gonna bewith a pimp, right?
Right or wrong.
If she's in the church, she'sgonna have a church, she's gonna
have a church man.
If she's a revolutionary, she'sgonna have a revolutionary man.
Whatever, yes, a woman knows herown self.
(48:23):
That's how come that the oldgods used to say, um, a woman is
your plus degree, because youdon't really know your power to
you have a woman, so you makeand own.
Because the earth was already inspace before the sun shine
(48:45):
night.
The sun just changed thecomposition of what was already
there.
Talk about it because wecalculate it, takes eight
minutes and 20 seconds forsunlight to reach the earth.
So the earth was already inspace, the earth was already
already know who I am.
(49:06):
What I need to know is who youare and what we're gonna do
together.
So, yeah, that's all I gotta sayabout that.
That went on for a long time.
SPEAKER_04 (49:16):
No, no, no, you didn't.
Everything you make sense.
If they if they still I mean,let me if they don't understand.
Now, forget, sorry, I likecalling people that, but if they
don't understand, go back andlisten.
So, we're gonna get into the Godthree, right?
SPEAKER_03 (49:31):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04 (49:32):
What does the film teach about the human attempt to
the human attempt to define oract in God's place?
SPEAKER_00 (49:40):
Well, you really saw that in the black woman with
smokes girl.
Because remember, she said, Ipray, she said, Who do you think
keep you alive?
I pray every day for you andyour crazy ass brother.
(50:01):
So she's talking about, sheacknowledged the power of words,
the power of thought, puttingothers before her own self.
That's that law right there isso heavy.
Yeah, like that's so, so heavy.
(50:22):
Now, let's go to the pastorafter he used religion to shield
his dirty way of life because wehear the story of his faith,
right?
And how his faith led him togetting money so he could build
(50:46):
that church.
So, my man, let's calm down,let's calm down with calling God
and Jesus and and everybody.
I'm gonna need you to tone thatdown just a little bit, my
brother.
Just a little bit.
SPEAKER_04 (51:05):
He was grandstanding, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (51:12):
Yes, he was definitely, and that's how come
I said, like the woman.
See, uh, a lot of people in myculture gonna get mad at this.
I stand ten toes down on this.
Had it not been for a woman,five percent culture would not
exist because a law was in theKorea War, and Dorva went into
(51:44):
the temple, and when the lawcame home, Dorva was already had
already stopped eating pork.
I heard Dorva, I used tosocialize with um one of Allah's
nephews, and I heard Dora whenshe was alive.
(52:07):
She said, I knew him when he waseating pork, couldn't tell me
nothing because she had cleanedup without him.
Let's take it back to what Isaid about the planets.
The earth was already in space,the earth was already
pre-packaged, it's the sunlightthat changed the composition of
(52:32):
the planet.
So taking it to this woman inthe movie, um smoke.
I really wish I remember her.
You see how into Michael B.
Joy, I ain't forget him or hisother character name.
Um look at me beingdisrespectful to my knowledge
(52:54):
for you, sister, that ain't donot one thing wrong.
Um, but yeah, but um she wasfat, she she was slow and
sturdy.
She wasn't fast like Staxgrafted devil.
Stax grafted devil, didn'tlisten, didn't do the knowledge.
(53:17):
Because had she did theknowledge, she would have been
alive, she would have went homelike he told her.
SPEAKER_04 (53:22):
She was more worried about lust than with him trying
to get back to him, reconnectwith him, and feeling like he
abandoned her and such.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (53:31):
And it's a feeling, and it's a feeling.
Feelings go away.
SPEAKER_04 (53:37):
Yeah, smokes, smokes queen was more, as you said, she
was into her self-knowledge ofherself, her word, her power.
She knew she walk a walk.
SPEAKER_00 (53:49):
Yes, she did the knowledge, she told him, I want
some money.
He said, She was like, That'sblood.
He said, All money, blubber.
She said, Not like yours.
So she knew her man, and I stillfrom Chris Rock.
Chris Rock in one of uh one ofhis shows, I think bigger and
blacker.
(54:10):
He said, A woman knows a manbetter than he knows himself.
SPEAKER_04 (54:14):
That's true.
So, yeah, because you know,dude, some dudes will disagree
with this.
I'm gonna say, shut up becauseyour mother knows you better
than yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
It don't have to be your itdoesn't have to always be your
counterpart, your wife or yourmate.
It could be your mother.
There's a woman that knows youbetter.
SPEAKER_00 (54:32):
Your older sister, your aunt.
SPEAKER_04 (54:35):
Yeah, they'll know when you're lying, they're gonna
know something's wrong with you.
The time my mother would callme, I'm like, damn, she got some
power on her.
Like, how she knew I was goingthrough something, she'll call
me, hey, what's going on?
Like, she's like, I feelsomething's not right with you.
SPEAKER_00 (54:51):
Like, my antennas was up when my daughter gave
birth to my first grandchild.
I hadn't spoken to my daughter,I think for like two days.
And I called her, she answers,I'm like, I'm so sorry, I've
been so wrapped up with life,but I have this need to speak to
(55:12):
you like in urgency.
Like, I need to know what'sgoing on with you.
She had just had the baby.
I was like, my antennas was all,and we're like 3,000 miles
apart.
My my antennas, my my camera wasall the way, my antennas was all
(55:35):
the way up.
So, yes, um, you know, we we sawwe saw the the God within being
manifested through umsmokeswoman.
We saw the fake uhinterpretation of God with
(55:58):
Sammy's father, the preacher,how they use God's name to
shield their dirty way of life,and because they was filthy in
their affairs, and because uhthey fell victim.
Now they want to preach dumbhard so that you, my man, who
(56:18):
said I'm susceptible to the samethings as you exactly, it
doesn't make sense, it doesn'tmake sense, all right.
SPEAKER_04 (56:27):
So we're gonna go to the eighth degree, which is
build destroyed, right?
What cycles of construction Isaid what cycles of construction
and deconstruction appear in themoral of the story?
SPEAKER_00 (56:45):
So I already broke down the destruction of the two
men with luck, uh with with withuh greed, right?
And coming to others andpromising them more than what
they and that destroyed forpeople uh falling victim, they
were destroyed, they weredemolished.
(57:07):
Um, the building part was um inthe beginning, the dream, the
thought, the concept, blackowned for us by us, by us, for
us.
Because you see, they ain't letno grafted people in.
SPEAKER_04 (57:28):
Oh, hell no.
SPEAKER_00 (57:31):
This is ours, this is for us, right?
Definitely so so that was thembuilding, but being that their
foundation wasn't correct, itwas all destroyed.
SPEAKER_04 (57:47):
Yeah, that's that's deep right there.
SPEAKER_00 (57:49):
We gotta do biggie, it was all leg.
SPEAKER_04 (57:54):
So we're gonna go straight to the ninth, born.
All right, uh does the storyresolution represent the rebirth
of truth or death of theinnocence?
SPEAKER_00 (58:06):
Um, yes, it does because we see it with Sammy.
It shows you how truth andrighteousness and morality and
integrity are not for all, it'sfor the chosen few.
(58:29):
So that was um Sammy'scharacter, little Sammy's
character.
He's the only one thatrepresents that.
SPEAKER_04 (58:40):
That's piece right there.
And last but not least, youknow, Cypher.
So how does the like go ahead?
You build on that.
No question, you build on that.
SPEAKER_00 (58:54):
So the cipher is the collection of everything
bad, the good, the ugly, thebeautiful.
The the thoughts, whether theywere created in righteousness or
not, because Sammy's thoughtswere righteous.
(59:17):
That's why he survived.
But not but the twins' thoughts,verses, right?
Sammy's thought, because allSammy wanted to do was play the
guitar and sing his music,right?
And and be free from work.
(59:40):
That's all Sammy wanted.
The twins wanted to be richslave makers of the poor and
teach the poor lies to believe,right?
Oh, this is the best Irish beeryou ever.
You ain't gonna taste no beerlike this.
Of course, it tastes good.
I've never Tasted Irish beerbefore.
(01:00:02):
I'm gonna love it.
I never had Italian wine.
This is better than any otherwine because I'm used to the
beer that's here.
I'm used to the wine that'shere.
So something new is alwaysintriguing and fascinating, but
it's not always good for you.
I got a sale from Chris Rockagain.
(01:00:24):
Chris Rock said you could drivea car with your feet, but that
don't mean it's to be done.
Just because something isavailable to you and you have
the opportunity.
We talked about that in thebeginning.
Consequence, right?
Every action is your reward.
(01:00:45):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04 (01:00:46):
No, that's a fact because every dollar ain't a
good dollar.
Because it's glittered doesn'tmean it's gold.
And every free meal is a goodmeal.
SPEAKER_00 (01:00:55):
That's a fact.
SPEAKER_04 (01:00:58):
Come with strings attached.
You don't want you don't want tohave that.
So from that movie itself,again, something that I gotta re
rewatch again.
And there's a lot of hiddenthings I pick up on that.
And it's funny when he's when wewere going through the lessons,
you said the supreme breakdownof it.
I'm like, yeah, there wereIndians in a movie, and the
devil came in, and the devil gotto the Indian first, and it
(01:01:19):
happened in life in life in thatsame order.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01:23):
But the devil didn't get to the Indian.
Remember, the Indians washurting.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01:29):
Yeah, it was hunting, it was hunting them
when they got to the European.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01:32):
He was running, he was so scared of them Indians
that his skin was burningbecause he was running from
them.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01:40):
But that's how let me reword it.
But it's funny how it's thatthat always that's always part
of history.
You see, with the Tainos wentthrough it with the Europeans,
then the Africans come about.
So it's always in some way inthat order.
Because you know, I know theythe Indians, the indigenous back
then kick up dust with theEuropeans when they came on
their land.
They kick up dust, and what theydid, they reach out to others
(01:02:02):
and they create an army went atit with the Indians eventually,
then later on, the Africans.
So it's that's always in thehistory, it's very repetitive.
That one story.
It's crazy, it's crazy, andthat's something we we want.
I want to get into.
I like the move.
SPEAKER_00 (01:02:22):
Go ahead, and he still blessed them, and he
blessed them in their nativetongue, and that white bitch
lied to him.
He said, Is he is he in yourhouse right now?
Because he's not what he seemsto be, and she and she still
(01:02:43):
lied because she was thinkingabout that gold coin he flashed
at her.
And then his man, he was he wasgonna waste time trying to break
this, but his man was like, yo,let's go, let's get up out of
here before it gets dark, andthey left.
(01:03:05):
We don't see the Indians nomore.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:09):
That's a fact.
We gotta come back more withsome movie breakdowns through
through the music.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:15):
I love movies, I love movie breakdowns.
Two people in my life showed mehow to pay attention to movies,
one my dad, because he said ummovies have a little bit of
truth, and then it's a whole lotof lies.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:36):
What's permitted by the government allow you to put
in, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:41):
To do and then Najee.
When I first met the god Najee,he was breaking down the wizard
of ours.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:52):
Oh powerful movie right there, very deep, very
deep.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:56):
But I break it down different than him.
He had me look at that movie sohard that I changed, and I came
back to him with my own.
He said, Yo, that's a good one,because Dorothy was used as a
tool and also a slave by thegood witch Glinda, yeah, yeah,
(01:04:23):
definitely.
The good witch Glinda, shecommitted murder, she put
Dorothy's house on the sister.
Yeah, she the one who stole herboobies and lippers and put them
on Dorothy, and she had her goto the wizard who was a foot.
See what happened when you don'tif you don't stand for
(01:04:45):
something, your full familything.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:48):
You see, that this is that's why when I watched The
Wizard of Oz as a child, my popsand I used to watch it a lot.
He used to break it down, andthat's why we went from that
straight to the whiz.
You know, get on there, yes, uh,but you know, with that being
said, wise Asia, I appreciateyou, Queen.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:09):
Sir But Mike, you know I love you as Supreme.
SPEAKER_04 (01:05:12):
Love you always.
Oh, love always.
Shout out to my brother Ron.
I'm saying peace to the gods,peace to the earth, peace to
everyone out there.
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The sister wise Asia.
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How you doing?
SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
Peace, big brother.
Mike, I'm good.
I'm good with the family inVegas right now.
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So all right, cool, cool.
That's beautiful.
She's out there enjoyingherself.
That's beautiful.
So how you feel?
Other than that, outside ofbeing in Vegas, like how's the
health?
Everything else is good.
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Everything is good.
Um, what you call it?
It's it's a little culture shockto me because my daughter has a
lot of life.
She has a husband, she got twochildren, she has three pets, so
it's a lot of life in here.
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You know, you know, you gotta beright in the Zach when dealing
with that audience.
So gotta we're gonna be talkingabout the movie Sinners, and
(02:01):
you're gonna take us through asupreme breakdown of it, right?
SPEAKER_00 (02:06):
I have to go ahead.
Yeah, so let's go from thebeginning to the end and jump in
with your questions when we getto that part.
Or do you have like generalquestions?
SPEAKER_04 (02:26):
General questions, but go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (02:27):
You could you could you could you could um so um I'm
flesh, like you know what Imean?
I'm flesh.
So the movie center attracted mefor the main actor.
I love his um Michael B.
Jordan, his acting range, youknow, him playing um twins.
(02:50):
I think he did an excellent job.
So that's what first uminterests me about the movie.
I'm not really um into spookismand vampirism and all those
other kinds of isms.
Um, I see them symbolically,like uh Laj Muhammad said 10
(03:13):
percenters are rich slave makersof the poor.
So that's what I see as avampire, somebody who's sucking
your life, you know, notnecessarily somebody who's gonna
bite you on the neck and makeyou change and you gotta get
stabbed with a you know what Imean.
(03:35):
So, you know, um, so yeah, sothat that's the but the movie
had um so many layers.
There's so many sciences thatare revealed in that movie that
can hardly be detected by thenaked eye.
(03:58):
Um so all right, so the firstthing is student enrollment,
right?
We talk about um the originalman.
So, right, the the star of theshow is Michael B.
Jordan, the original man, andthe original man is a maker and
the owner.
(04:19):
So in the movie, he's um he hebought a mill so he can have a
jukebox, so he could have hisown business back in his
hometown.
Because he in the story, you sawthe movie, right?
SPEAKER_04 (04:36):
Yes, I did.
I did.
SPEAKER_00 (04:38):
Did you like it?
I should have asked you thatfirst.
Did you like it?
I loved it.
I uh huh.
SPEAKER_04 (04:48):
You said repeat that what you said.
SPEAKER_00 (04:50):
I said, did you like it?
SPEAKER_04 (04:52):
It was good, it was a good movie, you know, a lot of
scientific stuff behind it.
If you had, if you know,everybody from different school
of thought may view it, may haveyou a differently, different
perspective, a lot of esotericthings, occult things in there,
some folklore.
SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
Yes, I want to talk about that.
I want to get into that, butlet's you know apple sauce it
before we get to the steak andthe potatoes.
So, boom, okay, so that's thefirst thing we're gonna show and
prove, right?
That um the main character wasdealing with being the maker and
(05:34):
the owner, which is a naturalstate for an original man.
That's not, you know, uh somegrand wizard science.
You know, that's natural to be amaker and an owner.
That's in the black man'snature.
So we see him doing that, and wesee him um being a savage in the
(05:58):
pursuit of happiness becausehe's killing, you know, he kills
for the gold.
Um he stole, right?
With if you pay attention to thestory, because what was it?
Italian wine and Irish beer,Irish beer to sell in the mill
(06:19):
in the jukebox place, yeah, andthe Italian wine.
So he he um smoke, I think,because the other one is
stacked, um, yeah, so Saks isthe one with the grafted chip,
and smoke is the one settingthings up, but Smoke is also a
(06:44):
teacher because you see him withthe young lady um where he asked
her to watch his truck.
Yeah, he was like, uh-uh, wetalking numbers, and when we
talk in numbers, we have to makeit match or something like that,
something along those lines.
(07:06):
Yeah, so he said 10 cents isjust not gonna be enough.
So she's like 50 cents, and he'slike 20, she's like done, so
boom.
I like that because it let meknow that he's at the edge, but
he's not all the way over, andum the respect he had, and then
(07:34):
it shows how he valued hisreputation when the people was
trying to steal it from histruck, and he still shot him.
He said, Why you still shot me?
He said, Because I can't havenobody talking about I almost
dropped the twins, so that letsyou look, yes, yes, yes, because
(07:56):
Sam travels, right?
And he wants to be absolutelyclear that me and my brother are
not people that you play with,play in the playground, but not
with me and my brother.
So um, yes, I love that.
(08:17):
You know, I'm all about um um myteeth smoke, right?
That's in my culture, it's in myDNA.
Um, so yes, so now let's fastforward to smoke woman, right?
He got him a nice knowledge soy,and that's the sister from the
(08:40):
bayou that deals with unseensciences, but they're seen and
heard everywhere because I thinkthat's her voice in the
beginning when it says somepeople um have the music in them
so true that it pierces the veilbetween life and death.
SPEAKER_04 (09:05):
Yes, yes, it does.
SPEAKER_00 (09:08):
So um the first thing that popped into my mind
was um the Greeks' first musicalinstrument.
You see it in cartoons, it lookslike a U.
Oh like that.
And it got the string, and it'scalled the liar.
The liar the liar.
SPEAKER_03 (09:28):
Yeah.
So I was like, go ahead.
Let's see where you go withthis.
SPEAKER_00 (09:37):
Yeah, because they're not like us, like um
like I know we have fun guys,right?
That's that's our because we'realways making music to the
rhythm of our heartbeat.
That's how come we're always,yes, let's get it.
(09:58):
So, and we make we we we makeyou know musical instruments out
of anything, anything, beerblack, you know, pieces of
metal.
We take the cactus and hammer inthe nails, because that's how
that's the first Moroccas.
So, and then the congas, we takethe skin over the wood, the
(10:22):
animal skin, yeah, over thewood.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that's so yes.
So she's breaking down how thatsame science is called different
things in Ghana.
Um, who else does she say?
I know Ghana is the last one.
(10:43):
The Bantu people in Africa, yes,yes, and she says somebody else,
and she said you, but it's thesame thing.
And she was like, these voiceshave the power to heal community
again.
Sam travels, right?
(11:04):
So, and then the power in words,because we have the 11th degree
in the one of 14, right?
Have you not heard that yourword is born?
Yes, my word is born, and bornis life, and I'll give my life
before my word shall fail.
So you're giving life, you'resinging, right?
(11:25):
You're singing from your soulbecause we call it soul music.
So you sing it from your soul,and you giving your life to
others, and some have so muchpower in that that they can heal
communities, and we know fromscience for every action,
(11:47):
there's an opposite and equalreaction.
So while you have this power toheal, you also have the power to
attract negativity, becomechallenged, right?
So, why did why did God makedevil right to show forth his
(12:08):
power that he is all wise andrighteous?
And I stopped giving up thesedegrees on here.
Somebody gonna come and pop meup.
SPEAKER_04 (12:18):
No, you're sharing, like you know, you know, with
all due respect, you sharing.
SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
So, yeah, I am sharing, and it is coming from a
pure heart, but everybody don'tsee things the same way, but
yeah, back to the to the to themovie, right?
So little Sammy, he has thepower, so they show.
(12:44):
I love that scene.
That's my favorite scene in thewhole movie when he sings in the
juke, and you hear the beat toset it off, and then you see the
past, you see, you see the umlike the tribes and huh?
SPEAKER_04 (13:00):
Yep, you see the past, present, and the future.
SPEAKER_00 (13:02):
Yes, oh my god, I love that part of the movie.
So to me, that was the meat,that was the steak and potatoes
of the movie right there.
And um that's what attractedthat um Caucasian vampire, and
(13:24):
he wanted all he wanted to dowas get the sins, right?
He wanted to use he wanted touse him as a tool and also a
slave, and keep him blind anddeaf to his own self, exactly,
(13:45):
and I believe he was um beforewe go further into that.
SPEAKER_04 (13:48):
Uh, I think was it smoker stacks who's dealing with
that half sister that was halfmember, half European, so half
European, half um Africandescent, and something he had
like a love affair with her.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Yes, yeah, and he still with her, yeah, because in
the end, you see them togetheras vampires, yes, but it comes
to she she corrupted him becausethey you know corrupted her
because of stubbornness, yourown stubbornness.
(14:24):
She don't know how to listen,exactly.
SPEAKER_04 (14:27):
So she got messed up out there.
But the science of that movie,again, as you said, this it it
explains the travel of sound,the science of sound, science of
frequency, vibration, the power,as you said, of healing or
destroying.
You know, and it's it's someit's a movie that should be
(14:47):
watched without the without fromnot from the lens of looking for
entertainment, but fromunderstanding different
perspectives of high sciences.
And I say high sciencesrespectfully.
I'm not trying to kick onspookism to nobody because you
know, you say tomato, I saytomato.
But we have you know the theperspective, you know, different
perspectives, but you know, it'sthis it comes to a place of
(15:10):
where we where we haveunderstanding of what's taking
place.
SPEAKER_00 (15:14):
So I agree.
Because even when they show youum smokes girl, right?
When she's throwing the bonesand she's coming up with
different sciences, and she waslike, This is something
different.
See, she was the one that reallydid the knowledge because she
(15:34):
was like, Your fat ass beencoming in in and out of here all
day.
Why you need an invitation?
And she's like, Nah, this ain'tright, da-da-da-da-da.
So then she took, and and thisis what I huh, it reminded me of
family, like she took what wasin her kitchen to create
(16:00):
protection and awareness to thebest of her ability with what
she had.
So I was like, like, yes, yes,because a lot of people they
think um they hear like voodooor or santerima or whatever, and
(16:27):
they get really spooky.
Like for somebody to not bespooky, you get real spooky real
quick, of course.
Because you don't under, yeah,you don't understand the
periodic table, you don'tunderstand your human
composition, talk that talk, andyou don't understand the science
(16:47):
of alchemy.
SPEAKER_04 (16:49):
Talk that talk, sister.
Go, yo, talk that talk.
It's just science, man.
All that does alchemy, it'senergy and alchemy, man.
That's all it is, and um knowingthe plants, what the plants, the
power of the plants, being abotanist at the same time.
SPEAKER_00 (17:08):
Because people don't don't understand, like you just
witness the flame, you justwitness the flame, like that's
alchemy right there.
I just changed oxygen intocarbon dioxide right in front of
(17:32):
everybody's eye.
Talk about it, and with that,I'm keeping plants alive, and by
me keeping plants alive, I'mkeeping animals alive.
So you can't see my breathunless it was super bad, right?
(17:54):
But um, nah, but you can't seeit unless the temperature
dropped, and you would see fromthe heat of the body coming into
the cold of the planet.
So then you would be able to seeit.
But there are so many things youcan't see your bones, but you
know they there, you can feelthem.
(18:17):
I have a skeleton, I can't seeit, I can't tell you what color
it is right now.
I can't even tell you the truecolor of my blood because it's
the oxygen.
When my blood hits the oxygen inthe atmosphere, it changes to
red.
SPEAKER_04 (18:35):
Oxygenated blood.
That's it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:38):
So people don't understand these things.
So when they see a scene likeSmokes Girl throwing the little
bones or whatever she had, andtelling everybody to eat that
garlic mixture and stuff likethat, they get real spooky real
(18:58):
quick.
SPEAKER_04 (19:01):
But that comes from stigmas people have with
anything that does spirituality.
Some people assume spiritualitymeans that you must sit in
somebody's church in someone'spew, watching somebody in the
pulpit, jump up and down, shout,ask for money, open your Bibles.
That's not it.
There's different passages.
There are different methods ofcommunicating with your higher
(19:24):
self, the higher power.
You understand?
I say that respectfully.
This is why I don't I don't getengaged in a certain school of
thoughts, go at somebody else'syou know, perspective or
practice, because I'll be like,you know, what works for you may
not work for them, and viceversa.
It's good for the goose, it'sgood for the gander.
(19:44):
As long as you whatever youstudy and whatever your beliefs
or practices are keeps yourighteous and exact.
Yes, you know, behaving as afool, I'm all for it.
But if it's anything that's cultlike, I don't want no parts of
it.
So um I'm uh I'm back.
Huh?
SPEAKER_00 (20:05):
That's that's what that's what I was talking about
the first time I got on y'allshow, and that's in the
mathematics because knowledge isalso respect, it's not just
collecting data, it's respectingthe source of the data, the
(20:29):
actual data, the actualinformation respecting it.
I don't have to agree with you.
I don't it may not necessarily,I'm I may not have the
experience that you have, so Ican't understand what you
understand.
(20:49):
Like I never know what it is tobe a man, never, no matter how
many dudes I hang out with, nomatter how many speeches I hear
from men, I will not ever knowwhat it is to be a man.
So you know what I mean?
There are just some things thatare not meant for me.
(21:13):
I have a path that's for me tolearn, for me to teach, and for
me to be.
And what what I'm gonna stealfrom Erica Badu.
The man that knows somethingknows that he knows nothing at
all.
SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
And he's a bullish, actually in God, but if you was
just yo, you took it.
SPEAKER_04 (21:50):
You know, that's my jam right there.
So I'm gonna, you know, as thegods say, in peace to them, they
want to go from knowledge toborn, right?
So I'm gonna ask you a fewquestions.
SPEAKER_00 (22:01):
Sure.
SPEAKER_04 (22:02):
Each question comes from the perspective of supreme
mathematics, and please again, Idon't come in the name of Allah.
I'm not, I'm just askingquestions, right?
No, I'm just I just want to putthat disclaimer out there.
You know what I'm saying?
So how does the I how does theidea of knowledge manifest
(22:23):
through the characterself-awareness or denial of
truth in sinners?
SPEAKER_00 (22:28):
So, first thing, knowledge is infinite, so it
can't be denial.
So um that's that's one and theacceptance of who you are, where
you are, when you are, and whatyou are, that's that's the
(22:52):
knowledge, that's the infinity.
SPEAKER_04 (22:59):
And that's how it manifests to each character,
each character knew hadknowledge of who they are and
what look at the twins.
SPEAKER_00 (23:08):
The twins knew, so they're really in the one to 36.
Their characters are really theone to 36 because they got led
to Chicago because someonepromised them more than what
that they would earn more thanwhat they was earning, and they
(23:30):
got into a war because they werepromised that they would get
more than what they was earning.
That's how come from all fromall the times they had got
tricked, that's how come theystole from the Italians and the
Irish and bought that back hometo make a profit off who off
(23:52):
their own people.
SPEAKER_04 (23:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
You know what I mean?
Because he's he had a time limitwhen smoke talks to his brother
Sack, he's telling them in threemonths we out of here.
SPEAKER_02 (24:11):
I remember that.
SPEAKER_00 (24:12):
We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna get this and that,
and then boom, let's take thatfrom the knowledge to the
understanding because knowledgeand understanding is one and the
same.
So he was giving his brother aclear mental picture, and all
stack wanted was money.
Money, money, money, money.
That's all he cared about.
(24:34):
That was his foundation for hismotion.
SPEAKER_04 (24:38):
Gotcha.
And we we we also got to add thepart that although the movie had
original people in there, italso had the a few Indians in
there, too.
That was the devil.
SPEAKER_00 (24:49):
Joe, let me tell you something about them Indian that
came to them white people, Zor.
I say, yo, they a special kindof people, and and no shame, no
shame.
They they was a special kind ofpeople because that white lady
lied in his face.
(25:10):
And because she she's anotherone that was left.
When that um when that vampireshowed her the gold, yeah, they
they let him in.
They let him the motherfuckingskin was on fire.
(25:35):
And you're gonna let this crazycrazy, but they saw that over
the morality, the greed, so thegreed.
SPEAKER_04 (25:48):
Being that we went through the qu the the question
from a knowledge perspective,right?
This this is coming from in thecategory of wisdom, right?
Does the does the film suggestthat wisdom can exist without
moral purity?
SPEAKER_00 (26:05):
Yes, yes, that's the uh that's really what I got from
that.
Because I just finished sayinghow smoke and stack and that
white lady are led by greed.
And see, that devu that thatthat hierarchy vampire, he knew
that.
That's how come he kept flashingthat gold coin.
(26:27):
Notice he didn't give it tonobody.
He just kept flashing it, right?
SPEAKER_03 (26:35):
That's a fact.
SPEAKER_00 (26:36):
So and he told and he told Snoop after he turned
his brother, he told Snoop, um,you can't use this anyway.
So wisdom is a manifestation ofknowledge.
(26:57):
So it whether you're doingrighteousness or deathment, you
still gonna be manifesting yourknowledge, and your knowledge
may not be my knowledge.
Because remember, there's 85,10, and five.
So out of every hundred people,uh let me say I said that wrong.
(27:19):
Out of every 99 people, every 99people that I meet, because I
make the hundred and I make thefive, only four people out of 99
people are my people.
95 people.
So I'm used to being alone.
I'm used to being the unalike.
(27:40):
But when I see that I'm theunalike and I'm alone, that's
how news usually know I'm doingright.
I get leery when I see peopledoing well.
I'll be like, wait, hold on.
Why, why, you know, those youoff.
I'm like, wait a minute, you I'mreally with family because I'm
not used to that.
(28:02):
I'm used to being the underlight.
SPEAKER_04 (28:07):
So I got you.
I respect that.
So in in terms of understanding,right, with respect to the
movies, how doesmisunderstanding between
generation youth versus adultsreflect the lack of divine
understanding?
SPEAKER_00 (28:22):
Good question.
So they show that in sinnerswith um little Sammy and his
father, the pastor.
Because his father, becauseremember, we don't get to see
his father when he was blind,deaf and dumb.
We hear the story about him andhow he used how he did that dirt
(28:46):
to build that church, and so hestays hard on his son.
Because in the beginning,remember, he he told him to
quote something, and he told himto read from the book, but Sammy
closes it and quotes the wholeand goes even further.
(29:07):
So that shows the wholegeneration, and even when Sammy
kept his word, his word wasborn.
He told his father, listen, Iworked all week, I want to be
free of this for one night, andI'll be back in the morning for
service.
And he came back in the morningfor service, but he couldn't let
(29:29):
go.
That guitar was trash, yeah.
But he he couldn't let go.
And then look at look at the thethe scene of the church is so
powerful for me because it showsyou how blind, deaf, and dumb
the 85 are because everybody'sdressed in white robes,
(29:52):
everybody's dressed the same.
And what does my clothes have todo?
Do with my spirituality.
Why do I need to symbolize toyou who I am when your flesh and
your um vulnerable to the samethings I'm vulnerable to?
(30:17):
I have a divine, according tothe Bible, I have a divine
connection with my creator.
He created me in his image.
And he's only gonna give methings that I can handle.
The things he gives you are foryou to handle.
He knows your worth, he knows myworth.
(30:39):
And then this is the shit that Ifuck with my family all the
time.
They hate me for this shit righthere.
I'll be like, how we going tohell when that is the whole
point of Jesus dying on thecross?
SPEAKER_04 (30:58):
That's deep.
Why do I fear death?
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Don't let's not, but it's afact, though.
Some people misconstrue things,they don't interpret their own
interpretation because they willsay, All right, through Christ I
found everlasting life.
So I don't know what death isbecause as the story goes, died
(31:22):
for our sins, right?
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
Yes, so nobody, nobody goes to hell no more.
Nobody goes to hell no more,according to what the Bible
says.
(31:49):
So again, why like why are wegoing to church?
SPEAKER_04 (31:58):
Listen, like you know, the people again, that
happens when you have a lack ofknowledge of self.
When you when you because youneed an intimate intimate
intermediary to help youcommunicate with your eye of
power to guide you, you knowwhat I'm saying?
So they they may say, Oh, that'sour enlightener.
It's the pastor, but pastor'sjust a bone man just like you.
(32:19):
You're just reading the samepassage every weekend, you're
not going through the entiretyof the book, and it doesn't stop
there within that one book.
You gotta go touch the otherbooks as well.
But that's not the conversationfor something else.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's anotherconversation.
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
So yeah, I was understanding, of course.
SPEAKER_04 (32:41):
So we go on culture of freedom, right?
How does the town's culturecreate the mental and moral
confinement the girls reactagainst?
SPEAKER_00 (32:52):
So before smoke and stat got there, we saw a
beautiful culture.
It was a beautiful culture.
People were working, people wereworking in the field, people
were owning shops, they wereworking in shops, they were
supporting their local umbusiness, right?
(33:17):
And um, and we saw all types ofculture, like um, oh, what's
that old actor's name that wasplaying the harmonica?
SPEAKER_04 (33:30):
Oh, there were Lindo.
SPEAKER_00 (33:34):
So we saw culture, his culture was alcohol, um, and
music.
That's all he lived for.
Yeah, he he ain't even reallycare about the money because
when he was talking about thejute joint he played every
Saturday, they he admitted thatthey wasn't really paying him,
(33:56):
but he had all the beer he coulddrink.
SPEAKER_02 (33:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (34:00):
And he played the piano, right?
He played the piano for them,and he and the money wasn't even
living him.
That stack was offering him.
He said, Shit, you ain't paying$20 a night, maybe$20 tonight.
You ain't paying any night, youknow what I mean?
(34:22):
So that that was his culture,that was an individual's
culture, and then, like I said,we saw a thriving community,
right?
Yeah, even the mulatto girl, shehad just buried her mother who
had midwife and nursed thetwins, and um, so yeah, so you
(34:44):
know, we saw the culture, we sawthe way of life, and we saw how
just two men who came in withlust and greed destroyed that
whole town.
SPEAKER_03 (34:58):
Because they came.
SPEAKER_00 (35:01):
Yeah, they came and they took people out the fields
and they promised them more goldthan what they was already
earning, and like foods, theywent running for that gold and
lost their life.
That town ain't that town is nomore.
SPEAKER_04 (35:21):
Exactly.
Talk about it.
Power and refinement, and thisone right here is is deep.
What moments in the moviesymbolize refinement or
cleansing of guilt?
SPEAKER_00 (35:37):
When um Smoke's girl is getting ready to die.
She said, 'I got some.' Shesaid, 'Promise me, if one of
them bite me, you're gonna takeme out before I turn.
I have somebody on the otherside waiting for me.
And when he dies, that's whenyou see her again with the
(36:00):
little girl.
So it kind of shows um, becausehis word was life, because he
told that white man, if I seeyou or any of your clans went on
my um property, I'ma shoot y'alldead, right where y'all stand.
Yep.
And he was ready for them, andhe did, and he get he get shot.
(36:25):
And um when he's getting readyto die, you see him with the
vision of her.
So that was his purity.
Because you see how she's in thewhite, the little girls in the
white, and and his his uh facialuh reaction is that of peace,
(36:47):
where he looks at her because hehe really loved her.
SPEAKER_04 (36:52):
Yes, he did.
I seen that throughout themovie.
He did love her, you know.
Though he was doing like youknow, his lifestyle, she she did
not, she didn't agree with hislifestyle, but she still the
power of love, she still watchedover him, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (37:05):
And she told him, she said, every day I pray for
you and your crazy ass brother.
SPEAKER_04 (37:15):
Yeah, I mean go watch that movie again.
That was that movie was a goodmovie.
Oh man, in terms of equality,we're gonna jump into the
equality part.
Um can equal.
SPEAKER_00 (37:30):
No, no, no.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Uh uh.
SPEAKER_04 (37:33):
Can equ can equality exist in society built on
judgment and shame?
SPEAKER_00 (37:39):
That is the equality, the judgment and the
shame.
But can it because people sharethat thought equally?
Like, yes, they do.
I I'm I'm a true daughter of thelaw, I'm a true five percenter.
I'm a judgy motherfucker.
I judge all the time, I judgeall the time, all the fucking
(38:03):
time.
I judge what I want to eat.
I mean, I have to judge, it'sit's a part of intellect.
Do I want to?
I'm not a fool.
unknown (38:15):
Of course.
SPEAKER_00 (38:15):
Malcolm X say, if you don't stand for something,
you fall for anything.
SPEAKER_04 (38:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Gotta use discernment.
You gotta, you know, as you guyssay, do the knowledge on the
person.
SPEAKER_00 (38:27):
So I'm a judge, I'm gonna judge, I'm gonna listen to
you, right?
I'm gonna do the knowledge, andI'm gonna see are your words
matching your actions?
That's the first judgment I'mdoing, and just because you
passed that test, don't thinkyou could fool me.
Like I got I got brothers andsisters in the culture that that
(38:52):
I didn't call out their shit,right?
Because I learned to keep it inmy pocket till I need it, and
when they ready to hear it, Ilet them know.
This is why I don't fuck withyou on this day.
You revealed, and thus forth,this is why.
(39:15):
You know what I mean?
But right now, they I don't knowwhat they think.
I know what they did, I know howI digested the information, and
I just keep it's they're notready yet.
You know, some people gottaspend a little more time, it's
(39:35):
just like a baby.
Some people are born at 38weeks, some at 40, some at 41,
some at 42.
SPEAKER_04 (39:44):
Time and place for everything.
So being that we're still inequality, I want to ask another
one on equality.
How does each character's sinreflect an imbalance between
equality and ego?
SPEAKER_00 (39:59):
Oh, that's a good one.
So, because I love Michael B.
Jordan's character, the twins,right?
So we saw them, right?
Because they led by money,right?
And they'll do anything formoney.
They'll rob, they'll steal,they'll kill, all in the name of
(40:20):
more money, more gold, right?
But they tell you in the moviethat that vampire dude tells him
all of that is based on a lie.
You ain't gonna never get that.
He said this was aslaughterhouse, and they come in
(40:41):
here to kill you.
Yeah, so you see the equalityand the imbalance.
You see, you can even say theyshowed you their justice.
SPEAKER_04 (40:55):
Oh, yes, they did.
That's that part spoke in manyvolumes because it's like
similar how it was it was a madthat mill became a madhouse that
he tried to build, right?
It also shows how the so-calledurban community, the ghetto, is
that where our people thrive,black and brown tend to thrive
at, you know, try to do theirbest.
(41:17):
They somehow stifled, theystuck, they stipled, not somehow
they did with the drugs in ourcommunity.
We could go further back to theheroin epidemic, and then from
the heroin came the crackepidemic, and they made you
believe that, you know, if I'mif I'm out there selling this to
my people, like the twins weredoing the movie, the alcohol and
all that, I'm making a dollar,not knowing that you're killing
your people in the process, andthey set you up for that to
(41:40):
build a case up against you,come back in, take you up out of
your home, put you in jail, andthere you there it goes.
You was never a real drugdealer, you was just uh you
know, I call it a distributor.
Yeah, you just a distributor,dealers.
SPEAKER_00 (41:56):
Yeah, you're a gopher, because you didn't
manufacture anything, youdistributed.
SPEAKER_04 (42:03):
Exactly.
You're not even a dealer, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (42:09):
That's a fact, man.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (42:11):
So yeah, we saw that we saw um where uh who else?
Oh Sammy, Sammy's character.
You saw his equality because hestood true to his own self, even
though he went to the edge, hestood true, and that's how come
(42:31):
he's the only survivor you seein that movie from that scene.
SPEAKER_03 (42:36):
Yeah, that was him in the gene, right?
SPEAKER_00 (42:39):
Yeah, he had he still had the mark from when
that um vampire scratched hisface, yeah.
He still he still had that markon his face, and that's so so
you that that makes me thinkabout the lesson.
So he can always keep in mindthat if he ever revealed the
(43:01):
secret, and then look who comesto see him at the end, stacked
with the mulatto chip.
And you could see their equalitybecause love is a high level of
understanding, and understandingis a clear mental picture of
what something truly is and notwhat it seems to be, and she
(43:25):
really loved him, right?
She learned how to fight fromhim, she learned how to speak
his language and um what youcall it, but she wouldn't listen
to him whenever he pushed heraway.
SPEAKER_04 (43:41):
Never.
SPEAKER_00 (43:43):
She was like, no, no, and at the end, even when
all the vampires were murdered,you still saw them two together,
and it looked like they was inthe 80s because she had the
bamboo in her.
He had the shades and the cut,and he had the he had the um
coolie um sweater, so they wasgiven like late 80s, a mid-80s
(44:11):
kind of vibe, and I think Ithink that movie starts.
I think it's like the 1930s,1930s, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (44:24):
1930s, there was a lot of messages behind it.
SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
Yeah, so they're all the way in the 80s, you know.
Sammy getting ready to die, andthen he leave.
Oh, yeah, and he and he had theum four finger name ring with
the stack.
SPEAKER_04 (44:41):
So, yeah, they were definitely in the 80s, they were
in the like where it came, thepoison transcended to each
generation.
The devil manifests in manyforms, as you guys quoted.
SPEAKER_00 (44:55):
Yeah, people don't understand that because my
favorite degree degree to quoteis um the fourth degree and the
one of four teams, because ittalks about um why did we run
Yaakoub and his made devil fromthe root of civilization across
the High Arabian desert into thecase of West Asians they now
(45:18):
call Europe, you go into otherstuff, but what's imperative to
me in that question, or ratherin the answer, well, in the
question, because why did we runYaqu and his maid devil from the
root of so you could have hadthe devil anywhere.
(45:44):
Anywhere, he could have beenanywhere because the earth has
three parts a best part, a poorpart, and a worse part.
So you had the devil and theroot of civilization.
That's an opportunity phrase.
So, yeah, so when I see um umlike movies like that or scenes
(46:16):
like that where um dude like soso we saw that the grafted devil
perish, and we saw a lot of theother vampires perish.
But um stack and and his graftedone, yeah, right, and his
(46:39):
grafted stood together throughdecades, right?
Because we were talking aboutequality, right?
That's how spiraled down intohere.
So that was they they equality,that was they they bond that
they shared.
They really did have um a lovethat was found.
(47:04):
Like when you was asking aboutthe inequality with the
equality, that's that's aperfect example of that as well.
SPEAKER_04 (47:14):
It is right there, because it is it's transcended,
yeah.
And it was because of herbecause she was the first one to
yes, she was.
She's the first one, and hercoming back in after she was
infected got the whole place inthe upper part of the place fell
(47:35):
apart because it fell apartbecause of her.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:38):
Now, now see a lot of women.
So see, I always tell Supreme,these lessons are not for women,
these lessons are for menbecause a woman knows she's a
woman.
Whether she's blind, deaf, ordumb, she knows she's a woman.
(48:00):
If she's a home, she's gonna bewith a pimp, right?
Right or wrong.
If she's in the church, she'sgonna have a church, she's gonna
have a church man.
If she's a revolutionary, she'sgonna have a revolutionary man.
Whatever, yes, a woman knows herown self.
(48:23):
That's how come that the oldgods used to say, um, a woman is
your plus degree, because youdon't really know your power to
you have a woman, so you makeand own.
Because the earth was already inspace before the sun shine
(48:45):
night.
The sun just changed thecomposition of what was already
there.
Talk about it because wecalculate it, takes eight
minutes and 20 seconds forsunlight to reach the earth.
So the earth was already inspace, the earth was already
already know who I am.
(49:06):
What I need to know is who youare and what we're gonna do
together.
So, yeah, that's all I gotta sayabout that.
That went on for a long time.
SPEAKER_04 (49:16):
No, no, no, you didn't.
Everything you make sense.
If they if they still I mean,let me if they don't understand.
Now, forget, sorry, I likecalling people that, but if they
don't understand, go back andlisten.
So, we're gonna get into the Godthree, right?
SPEAKER_03 (49:31):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04 (49:32):
What does the film teach about the human attempt to
the human attempt to define oract in God's place?
SPEAKER_00 (49:40):
Well, you really saw that in the black woman with
smokes girl.
Because remember, she said, Ipray, she said, Who do you think
keep you alive?
I pray every day for you andyour crazy ass brother.
(50:01):
So she's talking about, sheacknowledged the power of words,
the power of thought, puttingothers before her own self.
That's that law right there isso heavy.
Yeah, like that's so, so heavy.
(50:22):
Now, let's go to the pastorafter he used religion to shield
his dirty way of life because wehear the story of his faith,
right?
And how his faith led him togetting money so he could build
(50:46):
that church.
So, my man, let's calm down,let's calm down with calling God
and Jesus and and everybody.
I'm gonna need you to tone thatdown just a little bit, my
brother.
Just a little bit.
SPEAKER_04 (51:05):
He was grandstanding, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (51:12):
Yes, he was definitely, and that's how come
I said, like the woman.
See, uh, a lot of people in myculture gonna get mad at this.
I stand ten toes down on this.
Had it not been for a woman,five percent culture would not
exist because a law was in theKorea War, and Dorva went into
(51:44):
the temple, and when the lawcame home, Dorva was already had
already stopped eating pork.
I heard Dorva, I used tosocialize with um one of Allah's
nephews, and I heard Dora whenshe was alive.
(52:07):
She said, I knew him when he waseating pork, couldn't tell me
nothing because she had cleanedup without him.
Let's take it back to what Isaid about the planets.
The earth was already in space,the earth was already
pre-packaged, it's the sunlightthat changed the composition of
(52:32):
the planet.
So taking it to this woman inthe movie, um smoke.
I really wish I remember her.
You see how into Michael B.
Joy, I ain't forget him or hisother character name.
Um look at me beingdisrespectful to my knowledge
(52:54):
for you, sister, that ain't donot one thing wrong.
Um, but yeah, but um she wasfat, she she was slow and
sturdy.
She wasn't fast like Staxgrafted devil.
Stax grafted devil, didn'tlisten, didn't do the knowledge.
(53:17):
Because had she did theknowledge, she would have been
alive, she would have went homelike he told her.
SPEAKER_04 (53:22):
She was more worried about lust than with him trying
to get back to him, reconnectwith him, and feeling like he
abandoned her and such.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (53:31):
And it's a feeling, and it's a feeling.
Feelings go away.
SPEAKER_04 (53:37):
Yeah, smokes, smokes queen was more, as you said, she
was into her self-knowledge ofherself, her word, her power.
She knew she walk a walk.
SPEAKER_00 (53:49):
Yes, she did the knowledge, she told him, I want
some money.
He said, She was like, That'sblood.
He said, All money, blubber.
She said, Not like yours.
So she knew her man, and I stillfrom Chris Rock.
Chris Rock in one of uh one ofhis shows, I think bigger and
blacker.
(54:10):
He said, A woman knows a manbetter than he knows himself.
SPEAKER_04 (54:14):
That's true.
So, yeah, because you know,dude, some dudes will disagree
with this.
I'm gonna say, shut up becauseyour mother knows you better
than yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
It don't have to be your itdoesn't have to always be your
counterpart, your wife or yourmate.
It could be your mother.
There's a woman that knows youbetter.
SPEAKER_00 (54:32):
Your older sister, your aunt.
SPEAKER_04 (54:35):
Yeah, they'll know when you're lying, they're gonna
know something's wrong with you.
The time my mother would callme, I'm like, damn, she got some
power on her.
Like, how she knew I was goingthrough something, she'll call
me, hey, what's going on?
Like, she's like, I feelsomething's not right with you.
SPEAKER_00 (54:51):
Like, my antennas was up when my daughter gave
birth to my first grandchild.
I hadn't spoken to my daughter,I think for like two days.
And I called her, she answers,I'm like, I'm so sorry, I've
been so wrapped up with life,but I have this need to speak to
(55:12):
you like in urgency.
Like, I need to know what'sgoing on with you.
She had just had the baby.
I was like, my antennas was all,and we're like 3,000 miles
apart.
My my antennas, my my camera wasall the way, my antennas was all
(55:35):
the way up.
So, yes, um, you know, we we sawwe saw the the God within being
manifested through umsmokeswoman.
We saw the fake uhinterpretation of God with
(55:58):
Sammy's father, the preacher,how they use God's name to
shield their dirty way of life,and because they was filthy in
their affairs, and because uhthey fell victim.
Now they want to preach dumbhard so that you, my man, who
(56:18):
said I'm susceptible to the samethings as you exactly, it
doesn't make sense, it doesn'tmake sense, all right.
SPEAKER_04 (56:27):
So we're gonna go to the eighth degree, which is
build destroyed, right?
What cycles of construction Isaid what cycles of construction
and deconstruction appear in themoral of the story?
SPEAKER_00 (56:45):
So I already broke down the destruction of the two
men with luck, uh with with withuh greed, right?
And coming to others andpromising them more than what
they and that destroyed forpeople uh falling victim, they
were destroyed, they weredemolished.
(57:07):
Um, the building part was um inthe beginning, the dream, the
thought, the concept, blackowned for us by us, by us, for
us.
Because you see, they ain't letno grafted people in.
SPEAKER_04 (57:28):
Oh, hell no.
SPEAKER_00 (57:31):
This is ours, this is for us, right?
Definitely so so that was thembuilding, but being that their
foundation wasn't correct, itwas all destroyed.
SPEAKER_04 (57:47):
Yeah, that's that's deep right there.
SPEAKER_00 (57:49):
We gotta do biggie, it was all leg.
SPEAKER_04 (57:54):
So we're gonna go straight to the ninth, born.
All right, uh does the storyresolution represent the rebirth
of truth or death of theinnocence?
SPEAKER_00 (58:06):
Um, yes, it does because we see it with Sammy.
It shows you how truth andrighteousness and morality and
integrity are not for all, it'sfor the chosen few.
(58:29):
So that was um Sammy'scharacter, little Sammy's
character.
He's the only one thatrepresents that.
SPEAKER_04 (58:40):
That's piece right there.
And last but not least, youknow, Cypher.
So how does the like go ahead?
You build on that.
No question, you build on that.
SPEAKER_00 (58:54):
So the cipher is the collection of everything
bad, the good, the ugly, thebeautiful.
The the thoughts, whether theywere created in righteousness or
not, because Sammy's thoughtswere righteous.
(59:17):
That's why he survived.
But not but the twins' thoughts,verses, right?
Sammy's thought, because allSammy wanted to do was play the
guitar and sing his music,right?
And and be free from work.
(59:40):
That's all Sammy wanted.
The twins wanted to be richslave makers of the poor and
teach the poor lies to believe,right?
Oh, this is the best Irish beeryou ever.
You ain't gonna taste no beerlike this.
Of course, it tastes good.
I've never Tasted Irish beerbefore.
(01:00:02):
I'm gonna love it.
I never had Italian wine.
This is better than any otherwine because I'm used to the
beer that's here.
I'm used to the wine that'shere.
So something new is alwaysintriguing and fascinating, but
it's not always good for you.
I got a sale from Chris Rockagain.
(01:00:24):
Chris Rock said you could drivea car with your feet, but that
don't mean it's to be done.
Just because something isavailable to you and you have
the opportunity.
We talked about that in thebeginning.
Consequence, right?
Every action is your reward.
(01:00:45):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04 (01:00:46):
No, that's a fact because every dollar ain't a
good dollar.
Because it's glittered doesn'tmean it's gold.
And every free meal is a goodmeal.
SPEAKER_00 (01:00:55):
That's a fact.
SPEAKER_04 (01:00:58):
Come with strings attached.
You don't want you don't want tohave that.
So from that movie itself,again, something that I gotta re
rewatch again.
And there's a lot of hiddenthings I pick up on that.
And it's funny when he's when wewere going through the lessons,
you said the supreme breakdownof it.
I'm like, yeah, there wereIndians in a movie, and the
devil came in, and the devil gotto the Indian first, and it
(01:01:19):
happened in life in life in thatsame order.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01:23):
But the devil didn't get to the Indian.
Remember, the Indians washurting.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01:29):
Yeah, it was hunting, it was hunting them
when they got to the European.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01:32):
He was running, he was so scared of them Indians
that his skin was burningbecause he was running from
them.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01:40):
But that's how let me reword it.
But it's funny how it's thatthat always that's always part
of history.
You see, with the Tainos wentthrough it with the Europeans,
then the Africans come about.
So it's always in some way inthat order.
Because you know, I know theythe Indians, the indigenous back
then kick up dust with theEuropeans when they came on
their land.
They kick up dust, and what theydid, they reach out to others
(01:02:02):
and they create an army went atit with the Indians eventually,
then later on, the Africans.
So it's that's always in thehistory, it's very repetitive.
That one story.
It's crazy, it's crazy, andthat's something we we want.
I want to get into.
I like the move.
SPEAKER_00 (01:02:22):
Go ahead, and he still blessed them, and he
blessed them in their nativetongue, and that white bitch
lied to him.
He said, Is he is he in yourhouse right now?
Because he's not what he seemsto be, and she and she still
(01:02:43):
lied because she was thinkingabout that gold coin he flashed
at her.
And then his man, he was he wasgonna waste time trying to break
this, but his man was like, yo,let's go, let's get up out of
here before it gets dark, andthey left.
(01:03:05):
We don't see the Indians nomore.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:09):
That's a fact.
We gotta come back more withsome movie breakdowns through
through the music.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:15):
I love movies, I love movie breakdowns.
Two people in my life showed mehow to pay attention to movies,
one my dad, because he said ummovies have a little bit of
truth, and then it's a whole lotof lies.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:36):
What's permitted by the government allow you to put
in, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:41):
To do and then Najee.
When I first met the god Najee,he was breaking down the wizard
of ours.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:52):
Oh powerful movie right there, very deep, very
deep.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:56):
But I break it down different than him.
He had me look at that movie sohard that I changed, and I came
back to him with my own.
He said, Yo, that's a good one,because Dorothy was used as a
tool and also a slave by thegood witch Glinda, yeah, yeah,
(01:04:23):
definitely.
The good witch Glinda, shecommitted murder, she put
Dorothy's house on the sister.
Yeah, she the one who stole herboobies and lippers and put them
on Dorothy, and she had her goto the wizard who was a foot.
See what happened when you don'tif you don't stand for
(01:04:45):
something, your full familything.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:48):
You see, that this is that's why when I watched The
Wizard of Oz as a child, my popsand I used to watch it a lot.
He used to break it down, andthat's why we went from that
straight to the whiz.
You know, get on there, yes, uh,but you know, with that being
said, wise Asia, I appreciateyou, Queen.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:09):
Sir But Mike, you know I love you as Supreme.
SPEAKER_04 (01:05:12):
Love you always.
Oh, love always.
Shout out to my brother Ron.
I'm saying peace to the gods,peace to the earth, peace to
everyone out there.
Don't forget to comment, like,share, subscribe, super chats,
leave respectful, respectfulcomments.
If you got anythingdisrespectful, you'll be
blocked.
Trust me.
SPEAKER_02 (01:05:30):
Um, for real.
SPEAKER_04 (01:05:32):
Some people out here be you got some zealots out
here, you got some cases outhere.
Um stay tuned, share, share thiscontent.
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Reach out to us, engage, andhelp us grow.
We'll continue to bring you moregreat content, more good shows,
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But this will not be donewithout your support.
So don't forget to comment,like, share, subscribe, super
(01:05:54):
chats.
Wise Asia, it was a pleasure, mysister.
Thank you for coming out.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:58):
Always, my brother.
SPEAKER_04 (01:06:00):
All the time.
Peace to all the viewers andlisteners.
With that being said, we out.
Peace.
SPEAKER_00 (01:06:06):
Peace.
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