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July 16, 2025 82 mins

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In this episode of the Off the Ladder Podcast, host Branden Sewell and guest Jason Phillips discuss the journey of becoming a successful contractor without being hands-on in the field. They explore the importance of personal growth, the SOS framework for business success, and the significance of building trust with clients. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective sales skills, creating a positive customer experience, and the value of hiring for character. They also touch on the importance of emotional intelligence in leadership and the necessity of setting clear expectations for team members.

Takeaways

Branden Sewell introduces the Off the Ladder podcast and its purpose.
Jason Phillips shares his background in the home improvement industry.
Both hosts discuss their non-traditional paths to business ownership.
The SOS framework consists of Self, Others, and Systems for business success.
Investing in personal growth is crucial for business leaders.
Sales skills are essential for contractors to succeed.
Building trust with clients is key to long-term success.
Creating a positive customer experience can differentiate a business.
Taking extreme ownership of mistakes can enhance client relationships.
Hiring for character over skills leads to a more cohesive team.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Off the Ladder Podcast
06:15 The SOS Framework for Success
13:47 The Importance of Sales Skills
22:18 Creating a Positive Customer Experience
31:27 Delegating and Trusting Your Team
38:00 Hiring for Character Over Skills
47:08 The Importance of Year-Round Recruiting
53:21 Navigating Leadership Challenges
01:01:12 Setting Standards and Expectations
01:10:32 The Impact of Faith on Leadership
01:16:36 Final Thoughts on Business Success

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