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August 14, 2025 65 mins

In this special live episode recorded at the Annual International Association for Identification Conference in Orlando, Florida, I sit down with two of the most recognizable faces in modern forensics: Ashley and Erin from Gap Science.

We talk about their unexpected rise to "forensic fame," how they turned frustration into innovation, and what led them to create one of the fastest-growing training platforms in the industry. From crowd mobs at conferences to reshaping how crime scenes are taught, these two are changing the game and having a blast doing it. We dig into where they see the field of forensics headed in the next decade, why quality training matters more than ever, and how dark humor is sometimes the only thing holding this profession together.

Funny, insightful, and a little irreverent; just the way we like it.

Don’t miss this one. Forensic professionals, students, and curious minds… this is your front-row seat to the revolution.

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