April 23, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode we learn creating a life of alignment and fulfillment necessitates a profound understanding of one's purpose and values, which can be achieved through the integration of spirituality, mindfulness, and mindset work.
Today, I am privileged to have a conversation with Daniel Anderson, a Holistic Success and Legacy Coach, whose expertise lies in guiding individuals through transformative journeys that liberate them from the shackles of burnout and disconnection. We will delve into his innovative frameworks, such as The LEGACY Method, which aims to empower individuals to redefine success and cultivate a meaningful legacy.
Furthermore, our discussion will encompass the significance of breaking free from inherited patterns that hinder personal growth and exploring how these methodologies can lead to a more authentic existence. Join us as we embark on this enlightening exploration of human connection and the intricate mysteries of life.
SHOWNOTES
A profound exploration of personal transformation unfolds as Daniel Anderson, a holistic success and legacy coach, engages in a deeply insightful dialogue about the intersection of spirituality, mindfulness, and mindset. This conversation delves into the essence of crafting a life characterized by alignment and fulfillment, emphasizing the importance of breaking free from the cyclical patterns that often inhibit personal growth. Daniel articulates his unique Legacy Method, a framework designed to guide individuals in redefining success and cultivating a purposeful legacy. He elucidates how this method facilitates the realization of one's true values and aspirations, thereby enabling a more meaningful existence. Throughout the discussion, listeners are invited to reflect on their inherited patterns and the societal definitions of success that may be constraining their potential. The conversation is enriched by Daniel's personal anecdotes of overcoming adversity and discovering his voice amid the chaos of a large family, offering a relatable backdrop to the theoretical principles discussed.
As Daniel recounts his journey from feeling voiceless to empowering others, he shares profound insights into human connection and the greater mysteries of life. The dialogue not only provides practical tools for self-discovery but also encourages listeners to engage in self-reflection. It serves as a reminder that each individual possesses the capacity to create their own narrative, free from the limitations imposed by external expectations. This episode is an invitation to embrace the journey of personal transformation, affirming the belief that one can indeed craft a life of purpose and fulfillment through conscious choices and mindful practice.
Takeaways:
- Creating a life of alignment and fulfillment necessitates a deep exploration of one's values and beliefs.
- Blending spirituality, mindfulness, and mindset work enables individuals to transcend limiting cycles that hinder personal growth.
- The LEGACY Method offers a structured framework to redefine success and foster a purposeful legacy.
- Personal responsibility is crucial in the journey to self-discovery and fulfillment in life.
- Forgiveness, both of oneself and others, is a fundamental step towards healing and releasing past traumas.
- Developing a daily practice of gratitude and affirmation can significantly enhance one's emotional well-being and outlook on life.
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Hey, one more thing before you go.
What does it mean to create alife of alignment and fulfillment?
How can we blend spirituality,mindfulness and mindset work to help
us break free from the cyclesthat hold us back?
You're in luck because todayI'm joined by a guest who embodies
the kind of deep, engaging andthought provoking discussions we
love to have here on the show.
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Stay tuned.
We're going to answer thosequestions and many more.
I'm your host, Michael Hirsch.
Welcome to One more Thingbefore you go.
Daniel Anderson is a holisticsuccess and legacy coach who guides
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people through personaltransformations, helping them break
free from burnout,disconnection and limiting patterns
to create a life of purpose,which is what we all want, an alignment.
Passionate about exploringeverything from pop culture to the
greater mysteries of life,Daniel combines spiritual spirituality,
mindfulness and mindset workto uncover profound insights into
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human connection and thebroader mysteries of existence.
In this episode, we're goingto discuss Daniel's powerful framework
like the Legacy method and howthey can help you step into a more
meaningful, authentic life.
Plus, we're going to explorebreaking free from inherited patterns
and redefining success thatcan pave the way to a purposeful
legacy.
If you're ready for anengaging and inspiring conversation
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that leaves you withactionable insights, you're in the
right place.
Let's dive in.
Welcome to the show, Daniel.
Thank you for having me.
What an, what an amazingjourney your life has taken and where
you've come to now.
It sure has been quite, quitethe ride from being the youngest
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of eight children and notreally finding my voice or knowing
I had a message or a voice, tobe honest with you, to finding my
true purpose in life and nowhelping other people discover theirs
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and guide them on theirjourneys as they grow and learn.
That's a big family.
I had an older brother, oldersister, younger brother, and, you
know, that in itself wasenough chaos.
I can't imagine being with eight.
Yeah, it was very, very chaotic.
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But since there was such a bigage difference, I'm 16, 15, and 14
years younger than my threeoldest siblings, so things calmed
down fairly quickly, but itwas always hectic.
We had a lot of fun, though,and especially around the holidays
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when we would all get together.
Now that, that I can relate to overall.
We have a big family.
My grandmother on my mother'sside, she had nine kids.
So when we got together forfamily events, there was like, I
don't know, 60 everything.
Kids, grandkids, nieces,nephews, cousins, you name it.
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Everybody showed up and wetook up, like, the whole block almost.
It was.
It was a lot of fun.
I always love that.
Yeah, a lot of fun.
Made for great football out in the.
Out in the front yard.
Made for great baseball games.
It made for great basketball games.
But you had to get in linefirst to get to the food.
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I will say that.
Sounds familiar.
So where I could start at the beginning.
Where'd you grow up?
I grew up in a suburb ofMilwaukee, Wisconsin, called Wauwatosa.
And house I grew up in, as itturned out, was really haunted.
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Now, that's cool.
I, on many occasions, haveseen spirits growing up, as well
as several other familymembers have in that house.
And I've had the opportunityto hear some stories from a couple
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people that lived there afterI did, and they were experiencing
much of the same thing.
And I think we need to explorethat just a little.
Just a wee bit more, I think.
You know, anytime anybody goesup in a haunted house, we have to.
We have to change directionjust a wee bit.
No problem.
How old's the house?
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1940S-60S, I think.
It was built somewhere.
So not super old.
But then again, for me, itfeels like 1980 was 20 years ago.
Yes, I can relate to that statement.
Very much so.
So what was your first experience?
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When did you first experienceseeing a spiritual being or a ghost
or anything like that?
First time was between ages of7 and 8.
And what really seemed odd washow it showed up to me.
And I always thought I was alittle crazy for it, but I was coming
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down the stairs in the frontof my house, and there was a dining
room and, like, a littleentryway that connected the dining
room and living room.
And something formed out ofthe corner of my eye.
And when I looked, it was ablack that I can't describe how deeply
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black.
It was a pair of pants, and itlooked like there was a body in it,
but you couldn't see the body.
All I could see were the pants.
And they walked from thedining room into the living room,
and then they disappeared.
Scared the bejesus out of me.
I would think it would.
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I think it would.
Did you ever find out or knowwhether anybody died in the house
or died in.
In the area?
Yes, I.
I do.
The family that lived therebefore us were owners of a bakery
that used to be pretty well known.
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See?
Oh, my God.
I can't think of the name ofthe Bread.
Jaeger.
Jaeger Bakery, which wassimilar to the.
The Wonder Bread we have today.
And they owned the housebefore us.
And they had a 16 year old sonnamed Tim who tragically took his
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own life in the hub in that home.
Unfortunate, but it alsoleaves it open for unfinished business.
Yep.
And then I'm not sure if hismom died there, but shortly after
that she passed away.
So I know for sure that therewas somebody upstairs, there was
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somebody on the main floor anddefinitely some things in the basement.
Well, you know, as a kid wesee more things than adults do because
in, you know, as, you know,society and culture, for the most
part at least an hour, neck ofthe woods kind of quashes at that.
You think you saw a ghost, yousaw a spirit, and they go, no, that
doesn't exist, or no.
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Did you tell your parents?
Yes.
And it wasn't until yearslater that, I mean, I know they told
me back then that I was justseeing things or imagining things
because of how little I was.
But my mom really startedbecoming a believer because when
we were home, and I've beenhome with her plenty of times growing
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up, obviously, and we wouldhear stomping around in the, in the
upstairs when it was just herand I down in the main floor.
Whoa.
Timmy would go and steal mymom's keys or her purse and then
she'd yell at them and theywould show back up where she just
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looked a couple of minutesprior that they weren't there.
Now that's pretty crazy that,you know, I've had a lot, I had a
lot of conversations over theyears with paranormal investigators
and ghost hunters and, youknow, anybody that's looking within
that realm, psychics, mediums,you name it.
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The fact that you interactedwith that, that entity the way that
you did your mother, you know,enacted with that, that entity and
it listened to her.
That's kind of profound, actually.
Yeah.
And it's really funny becausewhen he would make a lot of noise
stomping around and she wouldfinally get sick of it and yell at
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him and it would stop immediately.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
You know, it's, that's.
That, that in itself I thinkis an amazing.
You guys should get somebodylike the ghost adventures there to
kind of really talk to themand get them out in the open.
Well, they're, to be honest,ghost adventures.
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They are fake.
Or I can refer you somebodythat would love to come to your house
that.
Well, I'm really, honestly,I'm a paranormal investigator too.
It really sparked my interestthroughout my life.
And starting a few years ago,I started doing it as a hobby.
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And I'm on my third team nowand hopefully I can reach out to
somebody that lives there.
So because I want toinvestigate it myself.
I find the most interestingpart of that is typically you don't
you.
You know, people will see adark shadow, people will hear something
going on, people will feel it.
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But to have somebody like yourmother say, give me my purse back
and the purse shows back upagain or stop doing that and they
go, oh, oh, sorry.
That's kind of a new approach.
I like that.
I like that I should bring her.
With me on one of my investigations.
Exactly.
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I need you to talk to me.
Need you to talk to me now.
Nothing like a mom, right?
Yep.
You got to stand up.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
So you got, you got interestedin paranormal investigation from
about what age.
I was interested obviouslygrowing up, you know, with all the
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experiences that I've had.
There had another one whereone of my friends and I were outside
and we happened to look upinto the attic window and we saw
somebody standing in there.
And it was somebody around theage of 16.
We could see him prettyclearly, but see the boxes that were
behind him.
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And then that was probablywhen I was about 12 years old.
And then in high school I'vehad four of my friends and I see
a full bodied thing walkingdown the back stairs, stop, look
down at something, turn aroundand float back up.
And I can tell you honestlythat we were all standing outside
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looking inside the house andmy house was empty because my parents
were in three hours away.
So really I've had an interest in.
In paranormal investigatingwithout really realizing it ever
since my first encounter.
I think that sparks theinterest in all of us that have a
fascination with that or aninterest in it to even explore it
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the way we have.
That's what got me intotalking to people on this program.
And you know, I've been luckyenough to meet some individuals that
really have some amazing stories.
Soul sisters.
Sumner had come on here, ChrisSumner and she came in and was talking
about when they went toinvestigate mall and Ma Barker and
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I forgot Ma Barker's kid'sname, but where they had the shootout
with the FBI and, and wherethey ended up dying.
And she went, she got intothere and she was able to record
and she recorded.
It was.
Sounded like Ma Barker and herkid in there talking about how they
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were going to try to rush thepolice and her saying, no, we got
to shoot it out here.
And it was the most amazingpiece of thing that I've heard because
it was just.
You could hear the distinctionbetween a Female and a male voice.
You could hear them gettingready, like getting ready for the
cops to come in.
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And.
Yeah, it was pretty.
Pretty profound, actually.
She's pretty amazing.
Yeah, she's done things withthe Allegheny.
Was it Allegheny MentalHospital out there?
She's done things actually,all over the east coast and the south.
And her.
And another woman, she calledherself the biker.
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The ghost biker.
She goes and does.
Because she loves history.
She goes and does historicalplaces and then ghost hunts while
she's at those historical places.
Opened a museum down inTennessee, I believe.
That is very cool.
So what you said you've hadother experiences other than your
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own home?
I have.
The.
The one that will always stickwith me is I was at my best friend's
house and we were in highschool and we were in his basement
and nobody was home that timeeither at his house.
And all of a sudden we hearthe back door opening up the screen
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and the heavy.
The heavy door itself and both close.
His dog at the time alwaysbarked when somebody walked in the
house and would run upstairs.
And she did that, but then shenever came down.
And we never heard anybodyelse at all walking around or talking
or called down to us.
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And nobody left the house again.
So after like half an hour, myfriend and I thought that was really
odd.
So we went upstairs andlooked, and there was nobody there.
We looked in closets.
We looked everywhere.
And we started to freak outbecause we thought somebody was.
Had broken in and was hiding there.
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So we ended up running out ofthe house to a different friend's
house and got his dad to comeover with us and a couple golf clubs
just in case.
And we all searched the houseagain and there was no sign of anybody
ever being there.
That's.
That is.
That's significant.
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I think that I told you I wasa police.
I'll retire police sergeant.
And we had a place in the citythat I worked in that had burned
down three times.
And huge hotel actually, andfamous hotel actually.
And by the.
The third time it had burned down.
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The second and the third timethere were people that had died.
So they pretty much abandonedit after the.
The third time.
And they've since rebuilt itinto something absolutely beautiful.
But we used to get calls outthere all the time because people
would see who they thought wassomebody walking around the old.
The building.
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So we'd have the cops walkingaround looking for somebody in this
huge building.
And of course, we never foundanybody, at least from the paranormal
part.
We did find.
We did find people that werekids that were Going in there and,
you know, Daria, I.
Daria, I, Daria.
And those kind of things, youknow, we're just here to see the
haunted.
Haunted hotel.
You know, that's all we'rehere for and things like that.
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But I unfortunately never hadany experiences in there.
I wish I would have.
They can be life altering.
And it's.
It's funny because the reasonI started my spiritual journey a
couple years ago actually wasto become a better paranormal investigator
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and really tap into the giftsthat I had when I was younger.
Because, you know, beinglittle and when you grow up, you
tend to lose some of yourabilities or you just block them
or whatever.
And so I started an internaljourney thinking that it would make
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me get those abilities backand make me better at what I love
to do, which was investigating.
And it turns out that thejourney that I went on went way deeper
than that.
It led me to my divine callingof becoming a coach.
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It led me to everything thatI've been doing with the business
for the last couple years.
It led me to write that bookand get, I think, 17 diplomas and
certificates in different modalities.
Wow.
Mostly in 2023, and I'vegotten probably five more since 2024.
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That pretty much devotedmyself now to learning to something.
Also weird, because I hatedschool growing up.
I think we all have.
My grades weren't great inhigh school, but when I went to college,
you had to pay for it.
All of a sudden I was gettinggood grades.
You know, it kind of changesyour perspective.
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Plus, I think the desire forwanting us to learn more comes with
maturity and it comes with,you know, our age.
It evolves us into somethingthat we want to learn and we want
to expand.
That's quite an education youbuilt around yourself.
Some, you know, some of thecourses have been just for fun.
I've got a parapsychologydiploma, a paranormal investigation
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diploma, one in cryptozoology.
And like I said, those are just.
Those were for complete enjoyment.
I still got the diploma indistinction like I did with pretty
much everything.
Well, you know, it.
It's.
I think that going into thishobby and turning it into something
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more than a hobby allows youthe opportunity to utilize what you've
learned in all of those.
I've got a friend of mine thatactually, his podcast called the
thirteenth Floor Podcast, andthey do a lot of stories in interviews
and investigations withcryptoids and, you know, things like
that, Bigfoot, and, you know,a whole slew of those opportunities.
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So, you know, anytime you getopportunity, I think That's a good
thing.
The spiritual journey thatyou, that you came to now, I mean,
theoretically.
Let me, let me regress just a minute.
I know that you say you have alot of education, you got a lot of
certificates and diplomas.
When you left high school,what did you want to be when you
grow up?
Did you want to go into beinga paranormal investigator or.
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Or from where you're at now,what did you, what did you want to
be?
I wanted to be a teachergrowing up.
I even had my classesregistered and picked out and everything
and was getting ready to go toa really, really great university
here in Wisconsin.
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And I decided to screw off oneday in high school and skipped out
of going to a teacher'sassistant position that I was holding.
It was for a course credit anda paycheck, but I blew it off and
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went to the mall insteadbecause I was a dumb 18 year old.
So my dad, who was going topay for my college at the time, he
said that if you're going toscrew around for free in California
in high school, I'm not goingto pay 20 plus grand a year for you
to screw around in college.
So I blew my opportunity.
And after that, I ended upfollowing in his footsteps in the
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dry cleaning business, whichhe had been in for.
He was in for 71 years andworked actually three weeks until
three weeks before he passedaway, which was two weeks ago.
I'm sorry if I can.
For you, Lawson, your father,that's what.
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Long career.
Wow.
Yes.
He would have been 90 yearsold today, which is a huge part why
I wanted to come on thispodcast and talk with you on this
specific day, because I knewit would be something that he'd want.
Great.
Well, I'm honored.
I appreciate that very much.
I think that, you know, maybehe's with you at the moment and have
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you had any opportunity to tryto connect or reach out to him?
I have, actually.
One of the gifts I found outthat I have is using a pendulum.
So I can make any of thesedangling weights on a string.
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I can make anything.
Have conversations with me.
I call forward angels.
I speak to them constantly.
I have spoken to my father now think.
And I'm so thankful for that.
I've gotten to speak to himthree times since his death and he
had told me, because he wasnever a religious person at all,
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he had told me, I can'tbelieve this, but God is real.
And that's the first thingthat he told me.
And he said he went in peaceand all he feels now is peace and
love and that's how we'resupposed to act.
He had been divorced from mymom for close to 30 years after being
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married for 35.
And he had remarried and beenremarried for an additional 25 years.
Wow.
And he had said to me a fewdays, actually late last week he
came and he's like, you know,I'm really sorry for leaving you
guys when I did, but it wasjust time.
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And he said, tell your motherwhen it's her time to go to come
look for me so we can spendeternity together.
What a, what a profoundstatement, a message, a heartfelt
and hope and love andcompassion that he gave you to give
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to your mother.
And then we had a.
He didn't want a funeral perse, but you know, we still had a
service for him.
And then he said, I want tothrow a party.
And he had told my sistersthat he was going to pay for it because
all he wants is to becelebrated and to have a huge party.
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And if huge party it was.
There was I think around 130people at the service and holy smokes,
I think 99% of them showed upto the party afterwards because of
the open bar.
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That's a testament to either.
Well, it could be a testamentto both actually.
Open bar and you know, yourability for your father to connect
with the community.
Yes, he, he really had a verystrong legacy.
He owned two dry cleaners inthe inner city of Milwaukee and service.
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The, the.
Some of the poorest peoplearound in our town and just built
relationships with them.
We had, you know, employeesand former employees show up to his
service customers of his formany years.
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It's just, it was reallyamazing to see how many people were
there that my father had aninfluence on.
That's very cool.
It's got to be heartwarmingfor your, for your soul in regard
to at least that portion of it.
And you know, the, the onemore thing before you go is the whole
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reason.
One more thing before you gobeing created was based upon my personal
life and my career.
Because I lost my father at avery young age.
I didn't have the opportunityto say goodbye to him.
I didn't have the opportunityto say what I wanted to say to him.
My mother, the same thing Ilost my mother did not have that
opportunity.
I was with too many peoplethat didn't.
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I was the last person thatthey saw.
And you know, it was.
Can you please tell my wife Ilove them?
My husband, I love them.
My, my sons, my.
Proud of my sons.
And my daughters, my, youknow, my grandma, my uncle, et cetera,
et cetera.
And gave me the motivation,especially in the beginning of this
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podcast, was to give people avoice when they didn't have the opportunity
to get to say what they wantedto say or do what they wanted to
do before losing somebody.
So I appreciate your story inthe fact that you emphasize that
to the viewer, my audience,and my community, that we always
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have one more thing that wecan do.
We always have one moreopportunity for us.
And you got that opportunitypresented to you to be able to talk
to your father after he passedon, so that you had that connection.
You got some answers from himin regard to it.
You were able to get someclosure some more, I'm assuming,
some additional closure inregard to the fact that he is in
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a good place.
And.
And to.
That's.
I mean, that's.
Thank you for doing that,because you were able to validate
something my community is.
Is always seeking and, youknow, and looking for.
Yep.
So what I've learned nowreally, is there's really no such
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thing as death.
And I've learned this throughmy spiritual journey, too.
There's really no such thingas death.
It's just transition.
Because when.
When the Bible had said thatGod made us in his image, it didn't
mean this, because you look atpictures of yourself from when you're
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4 years old to 12 years old,to 30 years old to 50 years old,
and even more, what you seeback in the mirror isn't the same
person you saw at those othertimes, but you feel exactly the same
because that you and me isinside of us.
And we are our souls, and theynever die.
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Our bodies may give out andmay go away, but that doesn't mean
our loved ones do.
I can honestly feel my dadstanding right behind me right now.
And also my sister took apicture today of her, one of my brothers
and my sister's son from alittle diner.
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And coming swooping acrossthem in the picture are just a rainbow,
beams of light.
And we think that's my dad.
Because the.
The sun was shining from thesouth, and these beams of light were
coming in from the east.
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So our loved ones, they neverleave us.
They're always with us.
And you are always with ourCreator, and our creator is always
with you.
So there's nothing to fear in life.
If you have any dreams thatyou want to go for, don't hesitate
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and go for them, becauseyou're not alone.
You can do whatever you putyour mind to.
And I firmly Believe in themantra that it's not.
You'll see it.
You'll believe it when you see it.
It's you will see.
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You will see it once youbelieve it.
Because where we put ourenergy is where, you know, the focus
goes, is where the energy flows.
And we are the creators of ourown doing.
And people find that reallyhard to believe.
But yet if they.
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If you really think about itand you just focus on bad things
and the lack of money and thelack of freedom and the lack of time,
that's Keith, that's what youkeep seeing.
So maybe if you challenge yourlimiting beliefs by questioning them
if they're real or not, andtrying to figure out evidence of
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whether or not it's valid,which generally those negative things
are not, then you realize thatyou create the negative stuff.
So start thinking about thepositive things and the things that
are coming to you, becauseonce you know they're coming to you,
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and once you ask for them,they will come to you.
I agree with you.
I think that we as humanbeings are innately always are seeking
answers and we're alwaysseeking approval.
We always want approval fromsomeone or somebody.
Even within ourselves, we'relooking and seeking approval.
We also want to understandlife from the perspective of what
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we have and what we don't have.
Issues, I think, built into usfrom the time we're children and
as we grow up.
I agree with you.
When we start learning that weneed to be grateful for what we have
and what we are in present,that it allows and opens the door
for more to be presented to usin a very positive way.
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Because I appreciate what yousaid about the lack of.
I think too many people focus on.
And I'm guilty of it.
Not, you know, as well, I slipback into those old bows like everybody
else.
Because we're human.
We're always focusing on whatI don't have and not what I do have.
Is that where legacy, yourlegacy method, was born from?
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Yes, absolutely.
And has to do with learning totake personal responsibility and
accepting responsibility foreverything you do in your life.
The next phase of it, becauselegacy is a.
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An acronym.
So it's learning to take responsibility.
And then it goes intoexamining the subconscious mind.
Let me go back here.
L is for leveragingresponsibility and ownership.
E is taking a deeperexamination into the subconscious
mind and kind of goes into thelimiting beliefs and why we think
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the way we do.
G in the legacy is growing newbelief systems, which is challenging
your limiting beliefs andautopilot behaviors that are keeping
you stuck and it will help youreplace the outdated definitions
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and societal definitions ofsuccess, what your self worth is
and your happiness.
And it aligns you with yourbeliefs and true values and aspirations.
So then we go into a in legacywhich is align values with actions.
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So it's a way to ensure thatyou show up daily or how you show
up daily reflects your true priorities.
And we also get into the factthat success doesn't mean much if
it doesn't align with yourpurpose and what truly matters to
you.
And then it's in that part ofthe program where you're going to
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bridge the gap between who youare now and who you are destined
to become.
Because you every.
Everybody here is here for apurpose and a destiny.
And it's just.
It takes a little nudgesometimes to.
To figure out what it is.
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The C and legacy stands forcultivating fulfillment.
And we do that through the sixhuman needs.
And basically it's a kind of apsychological portion of the program
too where you learn to fulfill the.
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The six human needs ofcertainty, variety, significance,
love and connection, growthand contribution in healthy ways
rather than destructive ways.
And why is stands for youremotional mastery.
And it's basically teaches youto navigate challenges and build
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your.
Resist your resilience withpresence and clarity.
Because when you become amaster of your emotions, you no longer
react out of fear or reactfrom past wounds.
You respond with intention andbecome the conscious creator of your
life.
Which is something I think weall need to try to strive for.
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You have a passion forexploring life's mysteries.
And I'm saying that out loudbecause I think even bringing up
the paranormal and thespirituality perspective of paranormal,
we all, every one of us,unless you've really experienced
it yourself and have firsthandknowledge of experience, really want
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to know what's out there andhow we fit into it all.
Do you think that.
That how do you incorporatethe curiosity about the universe
into your.
Like into your, your coachingor what we just talked about when
you bring it there and yourexperiences with all this.
Well, for me what really ledeverything and where I, where I try
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to come from is we all.
Some.
I'm sure all of us.
I know I spent most of my lifejust thinking is this all there is
to life?
What is, what else is out there?
What you know, I know I'mmeant for more and why am I stuck
in this?
And that comes from our higher self.
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Who knows?
Our higher purpose.
Us.
And you know, people may getuncomfortable calling it God, but
God and Allah in the universeand the Creator and Source.
It's all the same thing.
It's in my studies, you know, Right.
There was an ancient text, theDowda Ching, and then it says the
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Dao, which is, you know, thatthe source of creation, the dao that
can be named is no longer theDao, which means basically, putting
a label on God doesn't make itmore or less God than if you call
it Bob.
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And also, you know how I'veheard this said, too, where you can't
get wet from the word water,so you can it.
You.
You're what you see in lifeand what you label things are.
Are not exactly what they are.
It's how you perceive them.
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You could be totally crazy and.
And point at a tree and tellsomebody, that's a.
That's a rock, you know, butit doesn't change the fact that it
still is what it really is anddoesn't exactly have a name, if that
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makes any sense.
Well, it does.
I think in society and cultureoverall, we give a designation for
things just so we have abetter understanding of what we're
looking at or what we'refeeling and what we're touching,
what we're eating, what we're watching.
And I think that we can acceptwhat that is because that seems to
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be the societal norm, or wecan question what that is, and then
there's a balance in between.
We've grown up knowing thatwhat's out there in my front yard
that has got bark and isgrowing in the ground and it's got
leaves and branches, is a tree.
That's what we've been told.
That's what we've always beentold, that it's a tree.
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But in reality, it's hard as a rock.
You know, you go.
You hit.
Hit the bottom of the trunk.
It's hard as a rock.
So I think that our perception.
Our.
Perception of things can alsobe governed by society.
I mean, even I talk.
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We talk pop culture on thispodcast as well, on this show.
And I.
I think that even pop culturehas an opportunity to give a different
perception to people.
Look at social media thesedays and the messages that are being
portrayed and what's normaland what's not normal with somebody.
What we think may be normaland not normal, but in.
In each instance, somebodybelieves in it to be normal.
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Some people believe in it tobe not normal.
Do you think that even withthat, do you think that, like, your
legacy program helps us tohave a deeper understanding of the
aspects of ourselves and theconnection to the world?
Oh, absolutely.
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The way I run My programs, Itry to, I strive to do a, take a
holistic approach.
You know, the mind, body and spirit.
Yeah.
And really everything willchange on your outer world once you
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get a handle on the inner world.
Because what you have insideof you, be it trauma or anything
like that, expresses itself inthe outside world.
So you know, learning,resiliency and mindset shifts and
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everything changes how you see everything.
And that reminds me of one ofmy favorite quotes from Dr.
Wayne Dyer is change the way.
When you change the way youlook at things, the things you look
at change.
And when I first started myjourney, I wasn't really sure what
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that meant even.
But now, you know, with theprofound connection that I've got
with guys, my spirit guidesand angels and everything else, and
all the messages I've.
I keep receiving, things havestarted to look different in my life.
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I know if you ask anybodythat, that knew me even three or
four years ago, say I'm acompletely different person now because
of how I've grown internallyand how I've gotten in touch with
my spiritual self and myhigher self and surrendered as much
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as I can up to this point tothe greater good in whatever our
Creator is designing for me.
And I'm trusting the processbecause that, that's actually a message
I get all the time.
Trust the process and trustGod's plan.
And once you really let go andstart to put your trust and faith
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into a higher power, whateveryou consider it to be, it's absolutely
life changing.
I know that you have mentionedand some of the stuff that I have
researched on you and theinformation that was given to me,
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you yourself had to overcometrauma within your life in order
to reach the spiritualperspective that you are at now.
Is that trauma outside ofseeing a dark pair of pants walk
through your house?
Yes.
I was actually partiallyabused growing up.
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Of course back in the 70s andearly 80s, it was just discipline
or spanking.
Some of it went overboard.
So some of it, you know, wasfrom family.
I was horrifically bulliedgrowing up.
So I had a lot of mentaltrauma and some physical abuse and
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that scarred me for many yearsand, and led me to just believe in
myself that I was worthless,that I wasn't going to make it, that
I wasn't going to do anything.
Right.
I had that little inner voicein my head that would scream at me
at high volumes, constantlytelling me how worthless I was and
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how, you know, that I was afailure and just settle for this
and settle for that.
So I settled for very lowpaying jobs.
Pretty much most of my lifedoing what I thought my father wanted
me to do and what societydeemed necessary for me to do.
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Then I snapped out of my.
My haze, I guess you could really.
The way I look at the moviethe Matrix now, it.
It's almost like a documentarywith action sequences because we
are so wrapped up with our egoself and the way things appear, you
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know, and that negativefeeling voice in our head that once
you let that go, your eyesfinally are open and you can see
what the world really is.
I think as an enemy that a lotof us have to fight is allowing those
kind of emotions to bereleased and let go because they
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stop too many people frommoving forward in a positive way.
Have you been able to.
You and your father have beenable to kind of clear the air with
that and.
And help you get through someof that?
Yeah, you know, I'm stillgrieving a lot, understandably, but
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I've actually, one of ourconversations we had, I was able
to tell him some stupid thingsthat I did when I was younger and
apologized to him for it.
And he accepted my apology,thankfully, because that's.
That's all he is now, his love.
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And so I was able to.
To clear the air after he was gone.
I wish.
Wish it would be.
Yeah.
With him sitting in front of me.
But, you know, really, youdon't need to go to a psychic or
a medium or even delve intothat world yourself to discover if
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you have gifts or not.
If you talk to your loved onesafter they go, they will hear you.
And if you are able to justcenter yourself and focus on breathing
and quiet the inner.
A hole that we all have in ourhead and start to listen for the
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good.
You'll.
You'll hear them, they'll talk back.
Yeah.
What a profound opportunitythat was that you had in order to
be able to help clear that air.
Because a lot of people don'tunderstand that you do have that
opportunity after someone'spast to be able to reach out and
do that.
You just have to.
You just have to recognize thesigns and listen.
Feel in your heart and listen.
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Absolutely.
You know, I think we.
We can all take a lesson fromthat in overcoming that kind of trauma,
in breaking the inheritedpatterns that we bring forward.
I believe in intergenerationaltrauma as well.
I was introduced to that termabout three years ago with a doctor
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that I had interviewed on theshow, and I brought him on the show
a couple different times, andI had never thought about it before
then, up until the time thatI'D interviewed him.
I never heard about it.
And I was a domestic violenceinvestigator for my whole police
career.
But in specific, a domesticviolence task force.
That's all we did for aboutfour years.
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And understanding any kind ofdomestic situation, whether it be
emotional or physical, thatkind of trauma sticks with you and
creates a PTSD kind of a situation.
You don't have to be a soldierto be ptsd.
You don't have to be a cop orfirefighter or doctor to have ptsd.
You can have it with any kindof traumatic incident that.
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And I'm not teaching youbecause you know and understand this.
This is for everybody that's.
Anybody that's listening.
It can be any traumaticsituation that leaves, that leaves
an effect on you so, so badlyor negatively that it doesn't allow
you to function in a verypositive way or move forward from
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something because of it.
So do you think that what youjust spoke about, in regard to the
spirituality, to listening andthe talking, do you feel that.
What advice would you give tosomeone who's feel, who has experienced
that, especially with a familymember or a loved one and, and how
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they should approach that andgetting it resolved?
That's a long question.
I'm.
I'm sorry.
No, no worries.
Best answer is forgiveness.
They need to start byforgiving themselves.
And that's, that's.
It's a lot of shadow work.
And all that really is, isexamining things deep in your soul
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and saying the things thathappened were not your fault, you
didn't do anything wrong, youdidn't deserve the trauma that you
underwent.
And it's all part of the plan,as stupid as that sounds.
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I wouldn't be where I am todayif I wasn't.
Didn't go through my traumas.
But basically what you reallyneed to do, you need to forgive.
And you forgive the person.
You don't even have to say itto them.
You just say, I forgive you, Ilove you, and I release you now and
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just let it go.
It sounds like, I'm sure someof the listeners would be like, oh,
come on, that sounds really impossible.
How can I forgive somebody in it?
It's not about forgiving them.
It's about bringing peace backto your own life.
Because letting thesegenerational things and these patterns
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and old traumas and old abuseand everything linger.
All that's doing is.
Is holding you down andkeeping you back and keeping you
from where you belong and whatyou should be doing.
So the forgiveness part is toforgive yourself and also while forgiving
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them, healing yourself byLetting it go.
That's some good advice.
That's some good advice.
And in your coaching career,has it ever overlapped into your
spiritualistic perspective?
Have you gotten messages fromanybody else that maybe you were
working with somebody andmessages had come through or you
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felt a presence or somethingthat needed to be said?
Not in, not particularlyreally, but basically the messages
that I do get for myself canin a lot of ways go to, towards anybody
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else.
And that's, you know, trustthe process, trust the purpose, trust
God's plan, forgive yourself.
And the biggest thing is theone true power in our universe is
love.
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And love can overcome anything.
That's a fact.
It sounds like a cliche, butit's a fact.
You know, it's one of thosestatements that's been around for
eons and you hear it all the time.
You see it in the movies allthe time and see it in TV shows all
the time.
But in reality, yeah, it means a.
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Lot because yet, you know,people do consider it a cliche.
So they just keep on holdingon to the, the hate and the anger.
And fortunately, yeah, it's soit's, it's a cliche because it's
true.
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It is true.
I never thought that either Iwas one of the biggest non believers
and angry people that youcould possibly have ever met.
A few years ago I was lost, Iwas angry, I was depressed, I was
suicidal.
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And just when I changed myperspective from the inside and forgave
my inner self, that's wheneverything else changed.
I, I think that everythingthat I have learned, what you just,
that statement you just saidin, in yourself, that we have to
look inside ourselves and workon ourselves in order to have a,
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A better perspective of therest of the world.
Exactly.
And there's that saying,nobody's coming to save you.
And all that means is you haveto do the work not on the things
around you, because the thingsare that are around you are reflections
of what's inside of you.
So work on the inside.
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Work on the shadow.
Forgive your inner child.
Learn to love yourself.
Meditate.
It doesn't have to be somesitting on the mountaintop chanting
Om.
It can just be closing youreyes and focusing on your breath,
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focusing on different areas oftension in your body and releasing
them.
That's how I started affirmations.
You know, they would make funof that in TV shows.
Years ago on Saturday NightLive, the Stuart Smalley, I'm good
enough, smart enough, and goshdarn it, people like me.
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But once you start writingthose down, you start Embodying it
and you start, you know, and.
And what.
Another thing that I do that'sreally helped me grow considerably
is every day in the morningwriting three things you're grateful
for, three affirmations forthe morning, three things you want
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to accomplish during the day,and then in the evening you write
three more things you'regrateful for, three more affirmations,
and do a checklist of.
To see if you've actuallyaccomplished any of your goals.
That's some really good advice.
I think that comes a littlebit with journaling too.
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I think writing those downlike that.
I think it also gives us anopportunity to understand the benefits
of journaling and writingdown, not just the affirmations,
but in what you're gratefulfor, which I think is extremely important.
We said that earlier.
But be grateful for where youhave and where you're at because
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there are others.
You may not love the housethat you're living in, but there
are people out there thatdon't live under a roof.
You may not like the food thatyou're eating, but you have food
in your stomach and there arepeople that don't have it.
Same thing with your job.
You may not like the job thatyou're in, but there are thousands
out there who don't have one.
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You have to be grateful forwhere you're at and what you have
in life before more can cometo you.
Journaling, I think isimportant because it allows us.
I'm just asking for anaffirmation in regard to this.
It allows us to kind of getour feelings out, whether they be
negative or positive, torelease them.
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For sure.
That's absolutely correct.
Putting them on paper turnsthem into a reality.
You know, it turns the, theenergy of your thoughts into a real
thing in, in black and white, basically.
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Yeah.
I think thoughts are.
Thoughts can be dangerous toourselves, I believe.
And you mentioned earlierabout you constantly thought yourself
your self esteem wasn't where.
Where it needed to be andwhere it should be as an individual
and a human being.
Bruce Lee, I love one of hisphilosophy quotes is that, you know,
you never call yourself ugly.
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You never tell yourselfsomething you can't do.
Because if whatever you tellyour body, your ma.
Your body listens to youshould always tell your body that
you're beautiful and thatyou're happy and that you're, you're,
you know, you're beingpositive and, and treat it that way.
Treat it with respect.
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Treat it with the fact thatwhatever you say to your body, your
body's going to listen.
Exactly.
We could talk for anotherhour, but this hour went by really
fast.
Sure did.
So you'll have to come back on.
We'll have to have some more.
We'll have to have some more conversation.
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I think that we got some more.
To talk about would be an honor.
I think we'll have some fun.
We can expand a little bit more.
I think.
I think it would be good.
In the meantime, let's telleverybody how they can get to you,
how to find your book.
And I know you got somecoaching programs, some one on one
programs and how to find yourwebsite, please.
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You can go to my website.
My book is called Stay Focusedand Move with the Universe and it's
available on Amazon as a hardcopy, a softcover or even a Kindle.
(57:57):
And if you have any questionsabout any of the other programs that
I have, you can send me anemail@danielachdanielanderson.com and
if you want more informationon spiritual growth, you can check
out my YouTube channel.
Just search up the symbol theSoul Searchers Society.
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And I'll make sure that all ofthose are in the link in the bio
and on the webpage that'sspecifically built for our episode.
It'll be all in there so theycan find you quick and easy.
Daniel, thank you very muchfor coming on the show.
I really appreciate yourwisdom, your experience, your.
You gotta go out and find somemore spiritual ghosts and, and some
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more things that we can, youcan bring back to me.
I'm hoping to do so soon.
We're gonna be going on a fewinvestigations coming up in the next
couple months.
I know.
So I'm looking forward to the evidence.
You'll have to keep me, keepme updated so I can, I can follow
you in regard to your journeywith that.
Sounds good.
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Outstanding.
This is one more thing beforeyou go.
So before we go, do you haveany words of wisdom you can share?
Well, just stay focused, trustthe process.
Know that when you ask forthings, they're going to come.
It's just the matter of whatwe consider to be time and what the
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universe's time really is,which is now, are completely different.
So when the time is right,when you get, you will get what you
ask for.
Brilliant words of wisdom.
I think we should all takeheed to that.
Again.
Daniel, thank you very much.
I'll make sure everything's inthe show notes and on the webpage.
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Thank you.
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free from burnout,disconnection and limiting patterns
to create a life of purpose,which is what we all want, an alignment.
Passionate about exploringeverything from pop culture to the
greater mysteries of life,Daniel combines spiritual spirituality,
mindfulness and mindset workto uncover profound insights into
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human connection and thebroader mysteries of existence.
In this episode, we're goingto discuss Daniel's powerful framework
like the Legacy method and howthey can help you step into a more
meaningful, authentic life.
Plus, we're going to explorebreaking free from inherited patterns
and redefining success thatcan pave the way to a purposeful
legacy.
If you're ready for anengaging and inspiring conversation
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that leaves you withactionable insights, you're in the
right place.
Let's dive in.
Welcome to the show, Daniel.
Thank you for having me.
What an, what an amazingjourney your life has taken and where
you've come to now.
It sure has been quite, quitethe ride from being the youngest
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of eight children and notreally finding my voice or knowing
I had a message or a voice, tobe honest with you, to finding my
true purpose in life and nowhelping other people discover theirs
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and guide them on theirjourneys as they grow and learn.
That's a big family.
I had an older brother, oldersister, younger brother, and, you
know, that in itself wasenough chaos.
I can't imagine being with eight.
Yeah, it was very, very chaotic.
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But since there was such a bigage difference, I'm 16, 15, and 14
years younger than my threeoldest siblings, so things calmed
down fairly quickly, but itwas always hectic.
We had a lot of fun, though,and especially around the holidays
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when we would all get together.
Now that, that I can relate to overall.
We have a big family.
My grandmother on my mother'sside, she had nine kids.
So when we got together forfamily events, there was like, I
don't know, 60 everything.
Kids, grandkids, nieces,nephews, cousins, you name it.
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Everybody showed up and wetook up, like, the whole block almost.
It was.
It was a lot of fun.
I always love that.
Yeah, a lot of fun.
Made for great football out in the.
Out in the front yard.
Made for great baseball games.
It made for great basketball games.
But you had to get in linefirst to get to the food.
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I will say that.
Sounds familiar.
So where I could start at the beginning.
Where'd you grow up?
I grew up in a suburb ofMilwaukee, Wisconsin, called Wauwatosa.
And house I grew up in, as itturned out, was really haunted.
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Now, that's cool.
I, on many occasions, haveseen spirits growing up, as well
as several other familymembers have in that house.
And I've had the opportunityto hear some stories from a couple
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people that lived there afterI did, and they were experiencing
much of the same thing.
And I think we need to explorethat just a little.
Just a wee bit more, I think.
You know, anytime anybody goesup in a haunted house, we have to.
We have to change directionjust a wee bit.
No problem.
How old's the house?
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1940S-60S, I think.
It was built somewhere.
So not super old.
But then again, for me, itfeels like 1980 was 20 years ago.
Yes, I can relate to that statement.
Very much so.
So what was your first experience?
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When did you first experienceseeing a spiritual being or a ghost
or anything like that?
First time was between ages of7 and 8.
And what really seemed odd washow it showed up to me.
And I always thought I was alittle crazy for it, but I was coming
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down the stairs in the frontof my house, and there was a dining
room and, like, a littleentryway that connected the dining
room and living room.
And something formed out ofthe corner of my eye.
And when I looked, it was ablack that I can't describe how deeply
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black.
It was a pair of pants, and itlooked like there was a body in it,
but you couldn't see the body.
All I could see were the pants.
And they walked from thedining room into the living room,
and then they disappeared.
Scared the bejesus out of me.
I would think it would.
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I think it would.
Did you ever find out or knowwhether anybody died in the house
or died in.
In the area?
Yes, I.
I do.
The family that lived therebefore us were owners of a bakery
that used to be pretty well known.
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See?
Oh, my God.
I can't think of the name ofthe Bread.
Jaeger.
Jaeger Bakery, which wassimilar to the.
The Wonder Bread we have today.
And they owned the housebefore us.
And they had a 16 year old sonnamed Tim who tragically took his
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own life in the hub in that home.
Unfortunate, but it alsoleaves it open for unfinished business.
Yep.
And then I'm not sure if hismom died there, but shortly after
that she passed away.
So I know for sure that therewas somebody upstairs, there was
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somebody on the main floor anddefinitely some things in the basement.
Well, you know, as a kid wesee more things than adults do because
in, you know, as, you know,society and culture, for the most
part at least an hour, neck ofthe woods kind of quashes at that.
You think you saw a ghost, yousaw a spirit, and they go, no, that
doesn't exist, or no.
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Did you tell your parents?
Yes.
And it wasn't until yearslater that, I mean, I know they told
me back then that I was justseeing things or imagining things
because of how little I was.
But my mom really startedbecoming a believer because when
we were home, and I've beenhome with her plenty of times growing
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up, obviously, and we wouldhear stomping around in the, in the
upstairs when it was just herand I down in the main floor.
Whoa.
Timmy would go and steal mymom's keys or her purse and then
she'd yell at them and theywould show back up where she just
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looked a couple of minutesprior that they weren't there.
Now that's pretty crazy that,you know, I've had a lot, I had a
lot of conversations over theyears with paranormal investigators
and ghost hunters and, youknow, anybody that's looking within
that realm, psychics, mediums,you name it.
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The fact that you interactedwith that, that entity the way that
you did your mother, you know,enacted with that, that entity and
it listened to her.
That's kind of profound, actually.
Yeah.
And it's really funny becausewhen he would make a lot of noise
stomping around and she wouldfinally get sick of it and yell at
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him and it would stop immediately.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
You know, it's, that's.
That, that in itself I thinkis an amazing.
You guys should get somebodylike the ghost adventures there to
kind of really talk to themand get them out in the open.
Well, they're, to be honest,ghost adventures.
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They are fake.
Or I can refer you somebodythat would love to come to your house
that.
Well, I'm really, honestly,I'm a paranormal investigator too.
It really sparked my interestthroughout my life.
And starting a few years ago,I started doing it as a hobby.
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And I'm on my third team nowand hopefully I can reach out to
somebody that lives there.
So because I want toinvestigate it myself.
I find the most interestingpart of that is typically you don't
you.
You know, people will see adark shadow, people will hear something
going on, people will feel it.
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But to have somebody like yourmother say, give me my purse back
and the purse shows back upagain or stop doing that and they
go, oh, oh, sorry.
That's kind of a new approach.
I like that.
I like that I should bring her.
With me on one of my investigations.
Exactly.
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I need you to talk to me.
Need you to talk to me now.
Nothing like a mom, right?
Yep.
You got to stand up.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
So you got, you got interestedin paranormal investigation from
about what age.
I was interested obviouslygrowing up, you know, with all the
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experiences that I've had.
There had another one whereone of my friends and I were outside
and we happened to look upinto the attic window and we saw
somebody standing in there.
And it was somebody around theage of 16.
We could see him prettyclearly, but see the boxes that were
behind him.
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And then that was probablywhen I was about 12 years old.
And then in high school I'vehad four of my friends and I see
a full bodied thing walkingdown the back stairs, stop, look
down at something, turn aroundand float back up.
And I can tell you honestlythat we were all standing outside
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looking inside the house andmy house was empty because my parents
were in three hours away.
So really I've had an interest in.
In paranormal investigatingwithout really realizing it ever
since my first encounter.
I think that sparks theinterest in all of us that have a
fascination with that or aninterest in it to even explore it
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the way we have.
That's what got me intotalking to people on this program.
And you know, I've been luckyenough to meet some individuals that
really have some amazing stories.
Soul sisters.
Sumner had come on here, ChrisSumner and she came in and was talking
about when they went toinvestigate mall and Ma Barker and
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I forgot Ma Barker's kid'sname, but where they had the shootout
with the FBI and, and wherethey ended up dying.
And she went, she got intothere and she was able to record
and she recorded.
It was.
Sounded like Ma Barker and herkid in there talking about how they
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were going to try to rush thepolice and her saying, no, we got
to shoot it out here.
And it was the most amazingpiece of thing that I've heard because
it was just.
You could hear the distinctionbetween a Female and a male voice.
You could hear them gettingready, like getting ready for the
cops to come in.
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And.
Yeah, it was pretty.
Pretty profound, actually.
She's pretty amazing.
Yeah, she's done things withthe Allegheny.
Was it Allegheny MentalHospital out there?
She's done things actually,all over the east coast and the south.
And her.
And another woman, she calledherself the biker.
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The ghost biker.
She goes and does.
Because she loves history.
She goes and does historicalplaces and then ghost hunts while
she's at those historical places.
Opened a museum down inTennessee, I believe.
That is very cool.
So what you said you've hadother experiences other than your
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own home?
I have.
The.
The one that will always stickwith me is I was at my best friend's
house and we were in highschool and we were in his basement
and nobody was home that timeeither at his house.
And all of a sudden we hearthe back door opening up the screen
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and the heavy.
The heavy door itself and both close.
His dog at the time alwaysbarked when somebody walked in the
house and would run upstairs.
And she did that, but then shenever came down.
And we never heard anybodyelse at all walking around or talking
or called down to us.
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And nobody left the house again.
So after like half an hour, myfriend and I thought that was really
odd.
So we went upstairs andlooked, and there was nobody there.
We looked in closets.
We looked everywhere.
And we started to freak outbecause we thought somebody was.
Had broken in and was hiding there.
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So we ended up running out ofthe house to a different friend's
house and got his dad to comeover with us and a couple golf clubs
just in case.
And we all searched the houseagain and there was no sign of anybody
ever being there.
That's.
That is.
That's significant.
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I think that I told you I wasa police.
I'll retire police sergeant.
And we had a place in the citythat I worked in that had burned
down three times.
And huge hotel actually, andfamous hotel actually.
And by the.
The third time it had burned down.
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The second and the third timethere were people that had died.
So they pretty much abandonedit after the.
The third time.
And they've since rebuilt itinto something absolutely beautiful.
But we used to get calls outthere all the time because people
would see who they thought wassomebody walking around the old.
The building.
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So we'd have the cops walkingaround looking for somebody in this
huge building.
And of course, we never foundanybody, at least from the paranormal
part.
We did find.
We did find people that werekids that were Going in there and,
you know, Daria, I.
Daria, I, Daria.
And those kind of things, youknow, we're just here to see the
haunted.
Haunted hotel.
You know, that's all we'rehere for and things like that.
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But I unfortunately never hadany experiences in there.
I wish I would have.
They can be life altering.
And it's.
It's funny because the reasonI started my spiritual journey a
couple years ago actually wasto become a better paranormal investigator
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and really tap into the giftsthat I had when I was younger.
Because, you know, beinglittle and when you grow up, you
tend to lose some of yourabilities or you just block them
or whatever.
And so I started an internaljourney thinking that it would make
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me get those abilities backand make me better at what I love
to do, which was investigating.
And it turns out that thejourney that I went on went way deeper
than that.
It led me to my divine callingof becoming a coach.
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It led me to everything thatI've been doing with the business
for the last couple years.
It led me to write that bookand get, I think, 17 diplomas and
certificates in different modalities.
Wow.
Mostly in 2023, and I'vegotten probably five more since 2024.
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That pretty much devotedmyself now to learning to something.
Also weird, because I hatedschool growing up.
I think we all have.
My grades weren't great inhigh school, but when I went to college,
you had to pay for it.
All of a sudden I was gettinggood grades.
You know, it kind of changesyour perspective.
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Plus, I think the desire forwanting us to learn more comes with
maturity and it comes with,you know, our age.
It evolves us into somethingthat we want to learn and we want
to expand.
That's quite an education youbuilt around yourself.
Some, you know, some of thecourses have been just for fun.
I've got a parapsychologydiploma, a paranormal investigation
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diploma, one in cryptozoology.
And like I said, those are just.
Those were for complete enjoyment.
I still got the diploma indistinction like I did with pretty
much everything.
Well, you know, it.
It's.
I think that going into thishobby and turning it into something
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more than a hobby allows youthe opportunity to utilize what you've
learned in all of those.
I've got a friend of mine thatactually, his podcast called the
thirteenth Floor Podcast, andthey do a lot of stories in interviews
and investigations withcryptoids and, you know, things like
that, Bigfoot, and, you know,a whole slew of those opportunities.
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So, you know, anytime you getopportunity, I think That's a good
thing.
The spiritual journey thatyou, that you came to now, I mean,
theoretically.
Let me, let me regress just a minute.
I know that you say you have alot of education, you got a lot of
certificates and diplomas.
When you left high school,what did you want to be when you
grow up?
Did you want to go into beinga paranormal investigator or.
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Or from where you're at now,what did you, what did you want to
be?
I wanted to be a teachergrowing up.
I even had my classesregistered and picked out and everything
and was getting ready to go toa really, really great university
here in Wisconsin.
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And I decided to screw off oneday in high school and skipped out
of going to a teacher'sassistant position that I was holding.
It was for a course credit anda paycheck, but I blew it off and
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went to the mall insteadbecause I was a dumb 18 year old.
So my dad, who was going topay for my college at the time, he
said that if you're going toscrew around for free in California
in high school, I'm not goingto pay 20 plus grand a year for you
to screw around in college.
So I blew my opportunity.
And after that, I ended upfollowing in his footsteps in the
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dry cleaning business, whichhe had been in for.
He was in for 71 years andworked actually three weeks until
three weeks before he passedaway, which was two weeks ago.
I'm sorry if I can.
For you, Lawson, your father,that's what.
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Long career.
Wow.
Yes.
He would have been 90 yearsold today, which is a huge part why
I wanted to come on thispodcast and talk with you on this
specific day, because I knewit would be something that he'd want.
Great.
Well, I'm honored.
I appreciate that very much.
I think that, you know, maybehe's with you at the moment and have
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you had any opportunity to tryto connect or reach out to him?
I have, actually.
One of the gifts I found outthat I have is using a pendulum.
So I can make any of thesedangling weights on a string.
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I can make anything.
Have conversations with me.
I call forward angels.
I speak to them constantly.
I have spoken to my father now think.
And I'm so thankful for that.
I've gotten to speak to himthree times since his death and he
had told me, because he wasnever a religious person at all,
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he had told me, I can'tbelieve this, but God is real.
And that's the first thingthat he told me.
And he said he went in peaceand all he feels now is peace and
love and that's how we'resupposed to act.
He had been divorced from mymom for close to 30 years after being
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married for 35.
And he had remarried and beenremarried for an additional 25 years.
Wow.
And he had said to me a fewdays, actually late last week he
came and he's like, you know,I'm really sorry for leaving you
guys when I did, but it wasjust time.
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And he said, tell your motherwhen it's her time to go to come
look for me so we can spendeternity together.
What a, what a profoundstatement, a message, a heartfelt
and hope and love andcompassion that he gave you to give
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to your mother.
And then we had a.
He didn't want a funeral perse, but you know, we still had a
service for him.
And then he said, I want tothrow a party.
And he had told my sistersthat he was going to pay for it because
all he wants is to becelebrated and to have a huge party.
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And if huge party it was.
There was I think around 130people at the service and holy smokes,
I think 99% of them showed upto the party afterwards because of
the open bar.
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That's a testament to either.
Well, it could be a testamentto both actually.
Open bar and you know, yourability for your father to connect
with the community.
Yes, he, he really had a verystrong legacy.
He owned two dry cleaners inthe inner city of Milwaukee and service.
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The, the.
Some of the poorest peoplearound in our town and just built
relationships with them.
We had, you know, employeesand former employees show up to his
service customers of his formany years.
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It's just, it was reallyamazing to see how many people were
there that my father had aninfluence on.
That's very cool.
It's got to be heartwarmingfor your, for your soul in regard
to at least that portion of it.
And you know, the, the onemore thing before you go is the whole
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reason.
One more thing before you gobeing created was based upon my personal
life and my career.
Because I lost my father at avery young age.
I didn't have the opportunityto say goodbye to him.
I didn't have the opportunityto say what I wanted to say to him.
My mother, the same thing Ilost my mother did not have that
opportunity.
I was with too many peoplethat didn't.
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I was the last person thatthey saw.
And you know, it was.
Can you please tell my wife Ilove them?
My husband, I love them.
My, my sons, my.
Proud of my sons.
And my daughters, my, youknow, my grandma, my uncle, et cetera,
et cetera.
And gave me the motivation,especially in the beginning of this
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podcast, was to give people avoice when they didn't have the opportunity
to get to say what they wantedto say or do what they wanted to
do before losing somebody.
So I appreciate your story inthe fact that you emphasize that
to the viewer, my audience,and my community, that we always
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have one more thing that wecan do.
We always have one moreopportunity for us.
And you got that opportunitypresented to you to be able to talk
to your father after he passedon, so that you had that connection.
You got some answers from himin regard to it.
You were able to get someclosure some more, I'm assuming,
some additional closure inregard to the fact that he is in
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a good place.
And.
And to.
That's.
I mean, that's.
Thank you for doing that,because you were able to validate
something my community is.
Is always seeking and, youknow, and looking for.
Yep.
So what I've learned nowreally, is there's really no such
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thing as death.
And I've learned this throughmy spiritual journey, too.
There's really no such thingas death.
It's just transition.
Because when.
When the Bible had said thatGod made us in his image, it didn't
mean this, because you look atpictures of yourself from when you're
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4 years old to 12 years old,to 30 years old to 50 years old,
and even more, what you seeback in the mirror isn't the same
person you saw at those othertimes, but you feel exactly the same
because that you and me isinside of us.
And we are our souls, and theynever die.
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Our bodies may give out andmay go away, but that doesn't mean
our loved ones do.
I can honestly feel my dadstanding right behind me right now.
And also my sister took apicture today of her, one of my brothers
and my sister's son from alittle diner.
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And coming swooping acrossthem in the picture are just a rainbow,
beams of light.
And we think that's my dad.
Because the.
The sun was shining from thesouth, and these beams of light were
coming in from the east.
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So our loved ones, they neverleave us.
They're always with us.
And you are always with ourCreator, and our creator is always
with you.
So there's nothing to fear in life.
If you have any dreams thatyou want to go for, don't hesitate
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and go for them, becauseyou're not alone.
You can do whatever you putyour mind to.
And I firmly Believe in themantra that it's not.
You'll see it.
You'll believe it when you see it.
It's you will see.
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You will see it once youbelieve it.
Because where we put ourenergy is where, you know, the focus
goes, is where the energy flows.
And we are the creators of ourown doing.
And people find that reallyhard to believe.
But yet if they.
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If you really think about itand you just focus on bad things
and the lack of money and thelack of freedom and the lack of time,
that's Keith, that's what youkeep seeing.
So maybe if you challenge yourlimiting beliefs by questioning them
if they're real or not, andtrying to figure out evidence of
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whether or not it's valid,which generally those negative things
are not, then you realize thatyou create the negative stuff.
So start thinking about thepositive things and the things that
are coming to you, becauseonce you know they're coming to you,
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and once you ask for them,they will come to you.
I agree with you.
I think that we as humanbeings are innately always are seeking
answers and we're alwaysseeking approval.
We always want approval fromsomeone or somebody.
Even within ourselves, we'relooking and seeking approval.
We also want to understandlife from the perspective of what
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we have and what we don't have.
Issues, I think, built into usfrom the time we're children and
as we grow up.
I agree with you.
When we start learning that weneed to be grateful for what we have
and what we are in present,that it allows and opens the door
for more to be presented to usin a very positive way.
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Because I appreciate what yousaid about the lack of.
I think too many people focus on.
And I'm guilty of it.
Not, you know, as well, I slipback into those old bows like everybody
else.
Because we're human.
We're always focusing on whatI don't have and not what I do have.
Is that where legacy, yourlegacy method, was born from?
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Yes, absolutely.
And has to do with learning totake personal responsibility and
accepting responsibility foreverything you do in your life.
The next phase of it, becauselegacy is a.
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An acronym.
So it's learning to take responsibility.
And then it goes intoexamining the subconscious mind.
Let me go back here.
L is for leveragingresponsibility and ownership.
E is taking a deeperexamination into the subconscious
mind and kind of goes into thelimiting beliefs and why we think
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the way we do.
G in the legacy is growing newbelief systems, which is challenging
your limiting beliefs andautopilot behaviors that are keeping
you stuck and it will help youreplace the outdated definitions
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and societal definitions ofsuccess, what your self worth is
and your happiness.
And it aligns you with yourbeliefs and true values and aspirations.
So then we go into a in legacywhich is align values with actions.
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So it's a way to ensure thatyou show up daily or how you show
up daily reflects your true priorities.
And we also get into the factthat success doesn't mean much if
it doesn't align with yourpurpose and what truly matters to
you.
And then it's in that part ofthe program where you're going to
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bridge the gap between who youare now and who you are destined
to become.
Because you every.
Everybody here is here for apurpose and a destiny.
And it's just.
It takes a little nudgesometimes to.
To figure out what it is.
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The C and legacy stands forcultivating fulfillment.
And we do that through the sixhuman needs.
And basically it's a kind of apsychological portion of the program
too where you learn to fulfill the.
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The six human needs ofcertainty, variety, significance,
love and connection, growthand contribution in healthy ways
rather than destructive ways.
And why is stands for youremotional mastery.
And it's basically teaches youto navigate challenges and build
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your.
Resist your resilience withpresence and clarity.
Because when you become amaster of your emotions, you no longer
react out of fear or reactfrom past wounds.
You respond with intention andbecome the conscious creator of your
life.
Which is something I think weall need to try to strive for.
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You have a passion forexploring life's mysteries.
And I'm saying that out loudbecause I think even bringing up
the paranormal and thespirituality perspective of paranormal,
we all, every one of us,unless you've really experienced
it yourself and have firsthandknowledge of experience, really want
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to know what's out there andhow we fit into it all.
Do you think that.
That how do you incorporatethe curiosity about the universe
into your.
Like into your, your coachingor what we just talked about when
you bring it there and yourexperiences with all this.
Well, for me what really ledeverything and where I, where I try
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to come from is we all.
Some.
I'm sure all of us.
I know I spent most of my lifejust thinking is this all there is
to life?
What is, what else is out there?
What you know, I know I'mmeant for more and why am I stuck
in this?
And that comes from our higher self.
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Who knows?
Our higher purpose.
Us.
And you know, people may getuncomfortable calling it God, but
God and Allah in the universeand the Creator and Source.
It's all the same thing.
It's in my studies, you know, Right.
There was an ancient text, theDowda Ching, and then it says the
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Dao, which is, you know, thatthe source of creation, the dao that
can be named is no longer theDao, which means basically, putting
a label on God doesn't make itmore or less God than if you call
it Bob.
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And also, you know how I'veheard this said, too, where you can't
get wet from the word water,so you can it.
You.
You're what you see in lifeand what you label things are.
Are not exactly what they are.
It's how you perceive them.
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You could be totally crazy and.
And point at a tree and tellsomebody, that's a.
That's a rock, you know, butit doesn't change the fact that it
still is what it really is anddoesn't exactly have a name, if that
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makes any sense.
Well, it does.
I think in society and cultureoverall, we give a designation for
things just so we have abetter understanding of what we're
looking at or what we'refeeling and what we're touching,
what we're eating, what we're watching.
And I think that we can acceptwhat that is because that seems to
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be the societal norm, or wecan question what that is, and then
there's a balance in between.
We've grown up knowing thatwhat's out there in my front yard
that has got bark and isgrowing in the ground and it's got
leaves and branches, is a tree.
That's what we've been told.
That's what we've always beentold, that it's a tree.
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But in reality, it's hard as a rock.
You know, you go.
You hit.
Hit the bottom of the trunk.
It's hard as a rock.
So I think that our perception.
Our.
Perception of things can alsobe governed by society.
I mean, even I talk.
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We talk pop culture on thispodcast as well, on this show.
And I.
I think that even pop culturehas an opportunity to give a different
perception to people.
Look at social media thesedays and the messages that are being
portrayed and what's normaland what's not normal with somebody.
What we think may be normaland not normal, but in.
In each instance, somebodybelieves in it to be normal.
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Some people believe in it tobe not normal.
Do you think that even withthat, do you think that, like, your
legacy program helps us tohave a deeper understanding of the
aspects of ourselves and theconnection to the world?
Oh, absolutely.
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The way I run My programs, Itry to, I strive to do a, take a
holistic approach.
You know, the mind, body and spirit.
Yeah.
And really everything willchange on your outer world once you
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get a handle on the inner world.
Because what you have insideof you, be it trauma or anything
like that, expresses itself inthe outside world.
So you know, learning,resiliency and mindset shifts and
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everything changes how you see everything.
And that reminds me of one ofmy favorite quotes from Dr.
Wayne Dyer is change the way.
When you change the way youlook at things, the things you look
at change.
And when I first started myjourney, I wasn't really sure what
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that meant even.
But now, you know, with theprofound connection that I've got
with guys, my spirit guidesand angels and everything else, and
all the messages I've.
I keep receiving, things havestarted to look different in my life.
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I know if you ask anybodythat, that knew me even three or
four years ago, say I'm acompletely different person now because
of how I've grown internallyand how I've gotten in touch with
my spiritual self and myhigher self and surrendered as much
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as I can up to this point tothe greater good in whatever our
Creator is designing for me.
And I'm trusting the processbecause that, that's actually a message
I get all the time.
Trust the process and trustGod's plan.
And once you really let go andstart to put your trust and faith
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into a higher power, whateveryou consider it to be, it's absolutely
life changing.
I know that you have mentionedand some of the stuff that I have
researched on you and theinformation that was given to me,
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you yourself had to overcometrauma within your life in order
to reach the spiritualperspective that you are at now.
Is that trauma outside ofseeing a dark pair of pants walk
through your house?
Yes.
I was actually partiallyabused growing up.
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Of course back in the 70s andearly 80s, it was just discipline
or spanking.
Some of it went overboard.
So some of it, you know, wasfrom family.
I was horrifically bulliedgrowing up.
So I had a lot of mentaltrauma and some physical abuse and
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that scarred me for many yearsand, and led me to just believe in
myself that I was worthless,that I wasn't going to make it, that
I wasn't going to do anything.
Right.
I had that little inner voicein my head that would scream at me
at high volumes, constantlytelling me how worthless I was and
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how, you know, that I was afailure and just settle for this
and settle for that.
So I settled for very lowpaying jobs.
Pretty much most of my lifedoing what I thought my father wanted
me to do and what societydeemed necessary for me to do.
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Then I snapped out of my.
My haze, I guess you could really.
The way I look at the moviethe Matrix now, it.
It's almost like a documentarywith action sequences because we
are so wrapped up with our egoself and the way things appear, you
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know, and that negativefeeling voice in our head that once
you let that go, your eyesfinally are open and you can see
what the world really is.
I think as an enemy that a lotof us have to fight is allowing those
kind of emotions to bereleased and let go because they
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stop too many people frommoving forward in a positive way.
Have you been able to.
You and your father have beenable to kind of clear the air with
that and.
And help you get through someof that?
Yeah, you know, I'm stillgrieving a lot, understandably, but
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I've actually, one of ourconversations we had, I was able
to tell him some stupid thingsthat I did when I was younger and
apologized to him for it.
And he accepted my apology,thankfully, because that's.
That's all he is now, his love.
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And so I was able to.
To clear the air after he was gone.
I wish.
Wish it would be.
Yeah.
With him sitting in front of me.
But, you know, really, youdon't need to go to a psychic or
a medium or even delve intothat world yourself to discover if
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you have gifts or not.
If you talk to your loved onesafter they go, they will hear you.
And if you are able to justcenter yourself and focus on breathing
and quiet the inner.
A hole that we all have in ourhead and start to listen for the
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good.
You'll.
You'll hear them, they'll talk back.
Yeah.
What a profound opportunitythat was that you had in order to
be able to help clear that air.
Because a lot of people don'tunderstand that you do have that
opportunity after someone'spast to be able to reach out and
do that.
You just have to.
You just have to recognize thesigns and listen.
Feel in your heart and listen.
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Absolutely.
You know, I think we.
We can all take a lesson fromthat in overcoming that kind of trauma,
in breaking the inheritedpatterns that we bring forward.
I believe in intergenerationaltrauma as well.
I was introduced to that termabout three years ago with a doctor
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that I had interviewed on theshow, and I brought him on the show
a couple different times, andI had never thought about it before
then, up until the time thatI'D interviewed him.
I never heard about it.
And I was a domestic violenceinvestigator for my whole police
career.
But in specific, a domesticviolence task force.
That's all we did for aboutfour years.
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And understanding any kind ofdomestic situation, whether it be
emotional or physical, thatkind of trauma sticks with you and
creates a PTSD kind of a situation.
You don't have to be a soldierto be ptsd.
You don't have to be a cop orfirefighter or doctor to have ptsd.
You can have it with any kindof traumatic incident that.
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And I'm not teaching youbecause you know and understand this.
This is for everybody that's.
Anybody that's listening.
It can be any traumaticsituation that leaves, that leaves
an effect on you so, so badlyor negatively that it doesn't allow
you to function in a verypositive way or move forward from
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something because of it.
So do you think that what youjust spoke about, in regard to the
spirituality, to listening andthe talking, do you feel that.
What advice would you give tosomeone who's feel, who has experienced
that, especially with a familymember or a loved one and, and how
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they should approach that andgetting it resolved?
That's a long question.
I'm.
I'm sorry.
No, no worries.
Best answer is forgiveness.
They need to start byforgiving themselves.
And that's, that's.
It's a lot of shadow work.
And all that really is, isexamining things deep in your soul
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and saying the things thathappened were not your fault, you
didn't do anything wrong, youdidn't deserve the trauma that you
underwent.
And it's all part of the plan,as stupid as that sounds.
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I wouldn't be where I am todayif I wasn't.
Didn't go through my traumas.
But basically what you reallyneed to do, you need to forgive.
And you forgive the person.
You don't even have to say itto them.
You just say, I forgive you, Ilove you, and I release you now and
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just let it go.
It sounds like, I'm sure someof the listeners would be like, oh,
come on, that sounds really impossible.
How can I forgive somebody in it?
It's not about forgiving them.
It's about bringing peace backto your own life.
Because letting thesegenerational things and these patterns
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and old traumas and old abuseand everything linger.
All that's doing is.
Is holding you down andkeeping you back and keeping you
from where you belong and whatyou should be doing.
So the forgiveness part is toforgive yourself and also while forgiving
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them, healing yourself byLetting it go.
That's some good advice.
That's some good advice.
And in your coaching career,has it ever overlapped into your
spiritualistic perspective?
Have you gotten messages fromanybody else that maybe you were
working with somebody andmessages had come through or you
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felt a presence or somethingthat needed to be said?
Not in, not particularlyreally, but basically the messages
that I do get for myself canin a lot of ways go to, towards anybody
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else.
And that's, you know, trustthe process, trust the purpose, trust
God's plan, forgive yourself.
And the biggest thing is theone true power in our universe is
love.
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And love can overcome anything.
That's a fact.
It sounds like a cliche, butit's a fact.
You know, it's one of thosestatements that's been around for
eons and you hear it all the time.
You see it in the movies allthe time and see it in TV shows all
the time.
But in reality, yeah, it means a.
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Lot because yet, you know,people do consider it a cliche.
So they just keep on holdingon to the, the hate and the anger.
And fortunately, yeah, it's soit's, it's a cliche because it's
true.
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It is true.
I never thought that either Iwas one of the biggest non believers
and angry people that youcould possibly have ever met.
A few years ago I was lost, Iwas angry, I was depressed, I was
suicidal.
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And just when I changed myperspective from the inside and forgave
my inner self, that's wheneverything else changed.
I, I think that everythingthat I have learned, what you just,
that statement you just saidin, in yourself, that we have to
look inside ourselves and workon ourselves in order to have a,
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A better perspective of therest of the world.
Exactly.
And there's that saying,nobody's coming to save you.
And all that means is you haveto do the work not on the things
around you, because the thingsare that are around you are reflections
of what's inside of you.
So work on the inside.
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Work on the shadow.
Forgive your inner child.
Learn to love yourself.
Meditate.
It doesn't have to be somesitting on the mountaintop chanting
Om.
It can just be closing youreyes and focusing on your breath,
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focusing on different areas oftension in your body and releasing
them.
That's how I started affirmations.
You know, they would make funof that in TV shows.
Years ago on Saturday NightLive, the Stuart Smalley, I'm good
enough, smart enough, and goshdarn it, people like me.
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But once you start writingthose down, you start Embodying it
and you start, you know, and.
And what.
Another thing that I do that'sreally helped me grow considerably
is every day in the morningwriting three things you're grateful
for, three affirmations forthe morning, three things you want
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to accomplish during the day,and then in the evening you write
three more things you'regrateful for, three more affirmations,
and do a checklist of.
To see if you've actuallyaccomplished any of your goals.
That's some really good advice.
I think that comes a littlebit with journaling too.
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I think writing those downlike that.
I think it also gives us anopportunity to understand the benefits
of journaling and writingdown, not just the affirmations,
but in what you're gratefulfor, which I think is extremely important.
We said that earlier.
But be grateful for where youhave and where you're at because
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there are others.
You may not love the housethat you're living in, but there
are people out there thatdon't live under a roof.
You may not like the food thatyou're eating, but you have food
in your stomach and there arepeople that don't have it.
Same thing with your job.
You may not like the job thatyou're in, but there are thousands
out there who don't have one.
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You have to be grateful forwhere you're at and what you have
in life before more can cometo you.
Journaling, I think isimportant because it allows us.
I'm just asking for anaffirmation in regard to this.
It allows us to kind of getour feelings out, whether they be
negative or positive, torelease them.
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For sure.
That's absolutely correct.
Putting them on paper turnsthem into a reality.
You know, it turns the, theenergy of your thoughts into a real
thing in, in black and white, basically.
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Yeah.
I think thoughts are.
Thoughts can be dangerous toourselves, I believe.
And you mentioned earlierabout you constantly thought yourself
your self esteem wasn't where.
Where it needed to be andwhere it should be as an individual
and a human being.
Bruce Lee, I love one of hisphilosophy quotes is that, you know,
you never call yourself ugly.
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You never tell yourselfsomething you can't do.
Because if whatever you tellyour body, your ma.
Your body listens to youshould always tell your body that
you're beautiful and thatyou're happy and that you're, you're,
you know, you're beingpositive and, and treat it that way.
Treat it with respect.
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Treat it with the fact thatwhatever you say to your body, your
body's going to listen.
Exactly.
We could talk for anotherhour, but this hour went by really
fast.
Sure did.
So you'll have to come back on.
We'll have to have some more.
We'll have to have some more conversation.
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I think that we got some more.
To talk about would be an honor.
I think we'll have some fun.
We can expand a little bit more.
I think.
I think it would be good.
In the meantime, let's telleverybody how they can get to you,
how to find your book.
And I know you got somecoaching programs, some one on one
programs and how to find yourwebsite, please.
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You can go to my website.
My book is called Stay Focusedand Move with the Universe and it's
available on Amazon as a hardcopy, a softcover or even a Kindle.
(57:57):
And if you have any questionsabout any of the other programs that
I have, you can send me anemail@danielachdanielanderson.com and
if you want more informationon spiritual growth, you can check
out my YouTube channel.
Just search up the symbol theSoul Searchers Society.
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And I'll make sure that all ofthose are in the link in the bio
and on the webpage that'sspecifically built for our episode.
It'll be all in there so theycan find you quick and easy.
Daniel, thank you very muchfor coming on the show.
I really appreciate yourwisdom, your experience, your.
You gotta go out and find somemore spiritual ghosts and, and some
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more things that we can, youcan bring back to me.
I'm hoping to do so soon.
We're gonna be going on a fewinvestigations coming up in the next
couple months.
I know.
So I'm looking forward to the evidence.
You'll have to keep me, keepme updated so I can, I can follow
you in regard to your journeywith that.
Sounds good.
(59:06):
Outstanding.
This is one more thing beforeyou go.
So before we go, do you haveany words of wisdom you can share?
Well, just stay focused, trustthe process.
Know that when you ask forthings, they're going to come.
It's just the matter of whatwe consider to be time and what the
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universe's time really is,which is now, are completely different.
So when the time is right,when you get, you will get what you
ask for.
Brilliant words of wisdom.
I think we should all takeheed to that.
Again.
Daniel, thank you very much.
I'll make sure everything's inthe show notes and on the webpage.
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I hope you have an absolutelywonderful day.
Thank you.
And for everyone in the onemore thing before we go, community,
thank you very much.
For being part of this community.
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