Healing through Conscious Media: Redefining Spirituality:

What if one’s most profound breakdown served as the gateway to their highest calling? In this enlightening discourse, we delve into the transformative experiences of Will Rodriguez, whose spiritual awakening was catalyzed by a life-altering cancer diagnosis, and Karen Endsley, whose astute intuition complements Will’s insights as they co-host the acclaimed Skeptic Metaphysicians Podcast. Together, they have established New Reality TV, a revolutionary platform that aims to redefine conscious media as a sanctuary for seekers, mystics, and creators alike. Their conversation uncovers the nuances of spiritual exploration, the essence of healing, and the potential of media as an instrument for global transformation. Join us as we navigate this compelling journey, exploring how conscious media may represent the next frontier in collective healing.

Takeaways:

• Will Rodriguez's spiritual awakening and subsequent cancer diagnosis became transformative catalysts for his life journey.
• Karen Endsley's unique blend of intuition and discernment is pivotal to the podcast's engaging and enlightening content.
• New Reality TV serves as a sanctuary for seekers, creatives, and mystics, fostering connection and exploration.
• The movement towards conscious media represents a significant opportunity for global healing and collective awakening.
• Both Will and Karen emphasize the importance of vulnerability and openness in facilitating personal growth and understanding.
• The podcast illustrates how shared experiences and stories can unite individuals in their quests for meaning and truth.

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Episode Transcript

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Hey, one more thing before you go.
What if your greatestbreakdown became the doorway to your
highest calling?
What if media wasn't justentertainment, but a portal to healing,
awakening and transformation?
I think so.
And what happens when twoskeptics turned seekers build a platform
that not just another app, buta revolution of frequency?

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Stay tuned.
We're going to answer thesequestions and so many more.
I'm your host, Michael Hurst.
Welcome to one more thingbefore you go.
Today I'm joined by thevisionary duo behind the skeptic

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metaphysicians, podcast andnew reality tv, Will Rodriguez and
Karen Inslee.
Will is a former TV executivewhose spiritual awakening and cancer
diagnosis led him down a pathof non traditional healing, metaphysical
exploration and conscious creation.
Everything we talk about here,Karen's is the intuitive anchor of
their work.

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Blending discernment, heartand humor to guide seekers through
the noise and the clarity.
Together they built a topranked podcast and a streamlined
platform.
Excuse me, a streamingplatform that's redefining what it
means to awaken, heal andevolve through media.
From energy activation toquantum healing channels, their work
is sparking a movement that'sbigger than content.

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It's a revolution of consciousness.
And in this episode, we'regoing to explore how a spiritual
awakening, a cancer diagnosis,transformed Will's life.
Why Karen's blend of intuitionand discernment is the secret sauce
behind their show's magic.
What makes new reality TV asafe haven for seekers, mystics and
creators.
And how conscious media mightjust be the next frontier in global

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healing.
Welcome to the show, guys.
Thanks for having us.
We're excited to be here.
What a wonderful introduction.
I know, I like being thesecret sauce.
It's a wonderful, wonderfulintroduction for two wonderful people.
See, it's just a match, right?
It fits.
If you say so.
Well, you know, personaltransformation in the birth of like

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a spiritual path.
I understand that from apersonal perspective.
We had a conversation beforethis show started and we have similar
paths that we've walked tocome to an awakening and to a better
understanding of life healing,how to connect with the metaphysical
side of the world, tounderstand there's more to life than

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and what we see and feel hereand so forth.
So I'm excited about this conversation.
I think it's going to be brilliant.
Yeah, I don't know aboutbrilliant, but now, now, now I'm
like, oh, God, we're going to disappoint.
We will endeavor to do thebest we can.
That's all we can do in life,that is just do the best we can.

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Take the first step, that'sall we need to do.
Well, you know, I believe inevery revolution because of revelation.
And sometimes it starts withthe diagnosis.
You know, I. I typically liketo start the show is like where you
guys grow up.
Kind of all over.
So I was born in Florida and Iwas one of the 10 natives that was
still there until about 10years ago.

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My mother's from South America.
My dad, I can trace hisheritage back to Ireland in the 1700s.
But mostly I grew up inFlorida, moved around a lot, lived
in South America for a littlewhile, lived in South Carolina, and
now we're in Virginia and Will.
So I was born a little islandin the Caribbean called Puerto Rico.

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My parents are Cuban.
They escaped Cuba when Castrotook over and landed in Puerto Rico.
And out I came, but then veryshortly thereafter moved to.
From Puerto Rico to the secondrichest county in the country, second
only to Beverly Hills, littletown in Richfield called Ridgefield,
Connecticut, where talk aboutculture shock, coming from Cuban

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parents and living in PuertoRico to that space.
From there, moved to New Yorkfor a while.
From New York, then I made myway back south to Miami and then
Tampa and then Orlando, whereI met the beautiful Karen.
Well, that's an amazingjourney for both of you.
I mean, like such exoticplaces that you guys have come from.

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I guess I don't think of.
You don't think about it thatway when you're from there.
But I guess it does sound kindof cool.
You know, it's kind of like.
It's kind of like when you,you know.
I grew up in Colorado Springsin Colorado.
I live in the Phoenix, Arizonaarea now.
Completely different.
One is full of green trees andmountains, and this one's full of
brown and desert and, youknow, things like that.

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But it is the area that Ilived in.
Colorado Springs.
We had the Air Force Academy.
We had pikes.
We lived up behind Pikes Peak.
Actually, the pikes pe.
Backside of Pikes Peak was ourfront yard.
So, you know, it was amazingfrom that, from a nature perspective
and understanding nature andlooking at that, we'd wake up to
a herd of elk in the lot nextto us.

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Wow.
Kind of a thing.
So we woke up to little frogscalled cookies.
They make a little noise thatyou only find in the.
On the island.
It's.
It's very.
It's a unique sound, but youknow it.
And it's something that Imissed very much when I first moved
out of the off the island, butnow I don't really remember it.
So I need to go back and re.

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Experience it because therewas magic.
Yeah, yeah, magic.
And, and that it's interestingbecause, you know, when you look
at where we come from, therewere so many things I didn't visit
growing up there.
Now that we're out of there,people say, hey, did you go to Sarah
here?
No.
Did you go to the cliff dwellings?
No.
Did you go to Cave of the Winds?
No.
Yeah, I don't think we ever do that.

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Yeah, I think it was the samewhen I was in New York.
Everybody, all the touristswould say, oh, did you go to the
Statue of Liberty?
No.
How about at the time with theEmpire Strike State Building?
No.
What do you do in New York?
Just work, work, work.
But we've all evolved fromthat and we've been able to create
an environment for ourselves,not only to work, but to share that

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work with other people.
Wilk, if I can ask you, whatwas the moment that in essence cracked
you open and set you on aspiritual path?
There were two very distinct moments.
The first one was in 2020.
Like very most other when wewere going to lockdown for Covid.
I had an existential crisis,look myself in the mirror and suddenly

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realized that I didn't likewho I was.
Very judgmental, very selfentitled, angry, Very angry.
And I was about to lose everything.
I was about to lose my life,my, my, my family, my career, everything.
And so I went into therapy.
Incredibly lucky to find atherapist that turned me on to meditation

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right away.
And that actually deepened myquestioning inst.
Why am I the way that I am?
I started questioning why wasI made this way and why am I reacting
this way and why are we evenhere in the first place?
So I started doing those deepdives and then that turned into the

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podcast the Skeptic Metaphysicians.
After a little while, Karencame on and joined me on that.
But then the really the bigdefining moment that actually helped
us to launch in my mind newreality TV was as you mentioned,
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer.
And there's nothing quite likewhen the doctor says to you that

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you have cancer, that to rockyour world.
Just that those words alonechanged everything for me.
And anyone that has heardthose unfortunate words knows how
difficult it is to take that,that bit of news when it's given
to you.

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So I spiraled for a little bit.
But through it all we had the show.
We started interviewingpeople, talking people about different
healing modalities and wedidn't really open up too much about
my cancer diagnosis becausewe're somewhat Private to a certain
extent, not so much anymore.
But after the converse, the,the interviews that we would have
with these people, we wouldstand around for a little while and

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talk to him afterwards just toget known a little bit better more
personally.
And inevitably my cancerdiagnosis would come up and every
single person to a fault.
I don't think there was anyonewho we talked to that didn't actually
offer to work on me.
They would say, please let mework on you.
Who am I saying?
Who am I to say no?
Right.

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So of course I went, underwentall different types of healing modalities
and it.
Was like I would say, besidesthe egg 99 remote.
Yes.
And no one ever asked for a penny.
That's amazing.
It was, it was incredible.
It was a gift of love.
And I think that was reallypart of the effect.
Right.
I should mention that the,this cancer diagnosis with had been

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confirmed by a second doctoras well.
And we had decided to dowhat's called active surveillance
where we just watch it, let'ssee if it grows or what if.
How, how imminently do we haveto take some corrective action?
And so it was a year betweenthe time that was diagnosed to the
time that I had my secondbiopsy to take a look and see where,

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where it was going.
And throughout the course ofthat year, that's when all the healing
modalities were being used onme, for lack of a better word.
But when I went back for my second.
Well, first you got the mri.
Got the MRI before.
So they were going to do atargeted biopsy, which means it's
do an MRI first and take that,the results of the MRI and they put
it.
Over the affected area andthey match up where the spots on

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the MRI are and that's wherethey biopsy.
Right.
So unfortunately, when we didthe mri, it looked like there were
even more trouble spots.
So it, it was a little bit,even more nerve wracking to go into
the biopsy.
So I go into the biopsy and asmodern medicine is want to do, they
release your lab resultsbefore the doctor so you get to learn

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the news before they get achance to tell you.
So when I got the results, wewere actually at work and I promised
myself I wouldn't open the results.
The lab results, I knew theywere coming early, but I couldn't
help myself.
So of course I opened it.
Couldn't understand what I was seeing.
So I took my computer to theother room where Karen was and I
asked her, can you please read this?

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Because I don't know that thismakes sense to me.
Yeah.
His face, just this look.
It's just like this look of shock.
But I interpreted that as badbecause we were expecting, you know,
not great news after the MRIcame out.
So I'm reading the results,and they did 18 different tests,
and everyone said benign afterit, every single one.

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So we.
I looked at him like, thecancer's gone.
Yeah.
No, it was just incredulousfor both of us.
So the doctor's office calledme and said, in light of your results,
we're going to cancel yourfollow up.
And I said, absolutely not.
You're not.
I need a doctor to look me inthe eye and tell me this cancer is
gone, because I don't believe this.
And so we did just that.
We went to the doctor.
Doctor looked me in the eyeand said, I can't explain it.

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What I can say is, you don'thave to worry about this anymore.
Wow, that's amazing.
That's.
I mean, that's, like,incredibly amazing.
And the fact that you wereable to do it the way you did it
and then generosity of thoseindividuals, that they come on to
help you like that, I thinkthat that just shows that we're all
connected in the universe hereand that they felt that you were.

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Your soul was worth it.
So.
And you mentioned earlier thatwe were skeptics.
I'm a very.
I don't.
I've never been cynical.
I've always wanted to believein this stuff, but I've always been
more pragmatic.
And this showed me.
And even the intro to theshow, I just talk about how I want
to believe, and I need to havesome way to prove it.

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This, without a shadow of adoubt, proved it to me.
And the generosity of thesepeople, the care with which they
insisted on working on me tohelp me without charging me a single
dime.
And it wasn't even like, ifyou'd like, I can do this.
It was like, please let me do this.

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Let me help you.
And it's just incredible.
But if that could happen tome, we've got.
We have an obligation to getthese messages out, because this
is incredibly important forthe world.
I agree with that, and I'mglad that this happened and that
you got here.
Karen, what was it like to youto walk alongside Will during this

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time?
You know, my wife and myfamily, and not from a cancer perspective,
but I was told to be in awheelchair for the rest of my life,
and I had to go through eightdifferent operations.
And I know it was hard on mywife, and it was hard on my kids.
And it's.
I know what I mean.
I know.
I watched how it affected my wife.
I watched how it affected my kids.

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So from your perspective, whatwas it like to walk alongside him
during this time?
I think the hardest thing forme was watching him.
There was.
I kept telling him, you don'thave cancer.
Like the whole time, you don'thave cancer.
And I don't know if maybeintuitively I knew it was going to
end up okay.
I don't know.
Or if I was in denial, likeone of those two, you know, or maybe
combination of both.
But remember, I was alwayslike, you know, and even when we

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got the second opinion, I was.
I work in TV also, and I was producing.
I had just finished producinga series for a hospital and just
interviewed this doctor who isan oncologist who does prostate cancer
and operations.
They actually had flown him into teach all the staff at this hospital
how to do these operationswith this robotic surgery.
So when his doctor said, wehave cancer, I'm like, we're going
to this guy because he willdefinitely let us know.

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And yeah, when he said that,yeah, it just.
It was.
He confirmed the findings.
He confirmed it, but I stilljust didn't.
Well, it.
Maybe it was denial, but itwas really hard to.
To watch him go through it.
And maybe.
I think.
I really think I knew we weregoing to be okay because I probably
wasn't as like.
As you might have wanted me to be.
No.
Maybe so.

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But I think that there's adifference between saying you don't
have cancer and you're goingto be okay, and you kept saying,
you don't have cancer.
So I do think there's a littlebit of denial on there because it
would have affected our familyin a very sever way had something
bad happened.
Maybe I was foreseeing.
Maybe.
Maybe you were foreseeing.
I wouldn't.
I don't know.
Oh, maybe not.
It could have just been denial.
And it was hard.

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It was hard because you startto rethink your life.
You know, how is this going toaffect our daughter?
That was the biggest thing.
How is this going to affect her?
And we actually didn't tellher any of this until after we found
out that the cancer was gone.
Because she does worry a lot.
And so that, I think, wasprobably my first priority, making
sure that she would be okay.

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Because I knew you were goingto be okay.
Well, and that's your ownintuition, I think, that helped shape
your journey with him and yourfamily, actually, because obviously
Your intuition gave you theconfidence to really understand that
he didn't have cancer, whichis, like, amazing because it shows
a connection between theuniverse and you that allowed you

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the strength to be able to gothrough this with him, with that.
So, I mean, kudos to both of you.
It's a journey.
As I told you earlier in thebeginning of the show, I've lost
a lot of people to cancer.
So I am very grateful thatwe're having this conversation at
the moment because you wereable to step through that and not
have the devastation that itcauses around you and your family.

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Absolutely.
We were incredibly lucky,incredibly blessed.
As we talked before the recording.
I feel unbelievably blessed,and I can't put myself in the same
conversation as those peoplethat have really suffered through
diagnosis after diagnosis,surgeries, chemotherapy, these kinds

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of things.
I can't even.
I can't even imagine howdifficult that must be.
I know how difficult it wasjust getting the diagnosis.
But then beyond that, it takesa special strength that I don't know
that I would have had.
I think we all have thatstrength within ourselves, and we

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look upon others around us tohelp pull us up when we need it to
push.
Not just pull us up, but pushus up, hold our hand, walk beside
us, pull us when we need it.
I think that we innately wantto survive.
We want to.
Nobody wants to die.

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You know, we all want to live.
We think we.
We all know we have morethings to do on this earth.
That's one more thing beforeyou go.
It was built upon that conceptalone, is that, you know, their life
can change in an instant.
And we need to value each oneof those moments and value each one
of those seconds so that wecan continue to be a positive impact

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on not only ourselves, but ourfamilies and those around us, which
you guys have turned into.
You took skepticism andintroduced it to soul, and then something
magical happened, right?
We do believe so, yeah.
It's definitely changed ourlives completely.
And we've seen the effectsthat not only our show, but new reality

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TV as a whole has had on other people.
And it's like we mentionedearlier, it's our calling.
It is something that is ourpassion, and we're blessed to be
able to do it.
And we're finding that so manypeople are going through this and
having questions and havingsituations and things come up.
And so we talk about it a lot.

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And, like, my little term thatI use is it's a covert mainstream,
because everybody's doing it,but nobody's talking about it, you
know, it's like we talk topeople that are doctors and lawyers
and accountants and physicistsand computer people that are very
into what normally peoplewould call the woo.
And they're still out theredoing their jobs, but they're, they're
able to incorporate this into life.

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And when you do, it is such somuch more rich your life is.
And I think, you know, we'retalking about that if we want to
live and it's.
We want to live becausethere's things we want to do as opposed
to.
It used to be you want to livebecause you're afraid to die.
And I think the doors, themental and emotional doors that have
been open for us through thisprocess have helped get rid of that

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fear of dying.
I'm not worried about what'sgoing to happen when I'm not gone.
But what more can I do herebefore I go?
Before I go?
What one more thing could I dobefore I go?
There you go.
Thanks for the plug.
I love your show name.
I absolutely.
I think it's amazing when it comes.
From the heart and it comesfrom the soul.

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You know, I, I went when I,when I was.
Part of my healing was to goback to university and Because I
knew I wasn't going to be ableto be a cop anymore.
And you know, at that time Ithought that was my purpose and it,
it allowed me to my daughterand the injuries and we never know
what's going to happen.
A life changing incident for us.

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And I thought that was mypurpose in life.
And I got the opportunity tosee that there was more to that and
I went back to university.
I got a master's degree andinterdisciplinary studies with a
focus on digital media,performance and art, and then did
a documentary called One MoreThing before youe Go that combined
the creative arts, drama,music, drama, art and dance.

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And we got to tell peoplestories and get healing through those
modalities.
And it opened, that was myawakening because it opened me to
the possibility that we have adeeper connection with the universe,
a deeper connection with our soul.
And then combining mind, bodyand soul allows us to have the energies

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that we need, you know, tolive and to grow and to pass that
on to everybody else and.
Well, that's why we're all here.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
How do you balance those kindof energies with your show and in
life?
Because obviously I know whatit takes to do this show.

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You guys do this show and thereality TV show, right?
So, yeah, New Reality isactually an entire network.
So we have 40 some odd.
Different shows on there.
Right.
Growing all the time.
More and more shows are comingon board.
It's entire.
Entire channel of differenttypes of shows.
So, yeah, it's a lot.

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And I think that, in fact, oneof our.
One of our shows is calledPractical Alchemy, and he talks about
alchemizing different things.
And one of the things he talksabout is alchemizing time and how
time is malleable.
That when you are doingsomething that's passionate, that's
a passion of yours, that is important.
Somehow time seems to dilateitself to accommodate your needs.

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And so when we're in serviceto others, suddenly we find we have
all the time that we need.
And that's really what's beenhappening, because skeptic metaphysicians
is a lot of work.
New reality TV's exponentiallya lot more work.
And we still have our day jobs.
So it is.
It is a lot to juggle.
But kid in high school and a.

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Kid who just started high school.
Yes, that.
That in itself, I understandthose challenges.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
And having daughters, from afather's perspective, you know, it
is.
You know, the difference.
The difference is the kidskeep going.
Yeah.
I didn't do this.
I didn't do this.
I do this because I grew upwith a.
With a sergeant is my dad, so.

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Right.
You know.
Right.
Yeah.
I think I.
Maybe we might need tocoordinate a conversation between
you and our daughter just tomake sure, but.
Nah, she's a good kid.
She's amazing kids.
Yeah.
That's a Hispanic mother.
There you go.
That's the other side of it.
So I grew up Italian.

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You got the Italian and thecop, and it's kind of like, okay,
yeah, I'm in trouble.
It's funny because when my.
My oldest daughter, she hadher first date.
Just a quick side note, fatherto father, father to parents, father
to both parents.
We had a conversation with thekid when he picked her up.
And, you know, and then I wasstill on the job, and it was funny

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because Caitlin said they weredriving, driving down away, and Uncle
John drove by in his patrolcar and looked at the guy.
And then they get down.
Down about two or three moremiles, and another cop was driving
on the other side, and he'slooking at them, and he felt that
every cop out there waswatching him.

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And, well, he should.
That's so funny.
Brought her home, like an hour early.
Yeah.
She goes, dad, don't ever havea conversation with the boy I bring
home again, please.
Oh, my gosh.
Well, there are perks to the job.
I was doomed.
So, yeah, there are, there are perks.
There are perks.

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You bring a lot of guests onyour show.
You'd have a.
You have some amazing conversations.
Everybody needs to go to the podcast.
Everybody needs to go to the,to, to your messages and what you
bring, you share with theworld our ability to connect our
mind, our body and our souland what's out there and what's available.
Just off the top of your head,what do you think?
What's one gift orconversation that truly shifted your

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perspective?
Because again, coming from inthe beginning, a skeptic.
We're all skeptic.
I'm still skeptic aboutcertain things.
So did you have something thatreally kind of stuck out that really
emphasized or, or shifted your skepticism.
Well beyond, beyond the cancer thing?

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That, that really did a numberon me.
I don't believe I, I.
In fact, there was a pointwhere we were going to change the
name of the show because nolonger skeptical, however, rebrand
was so difficult, we suddenlyrealized that we can still have the
skeptic beneficiations.
But it's no longer us who areskeptic, but rather our audience.

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Those who are listening to theshow are our skeptic metaphysicians
that we help to wrap theirminds around things.
But we still continue the, thetone of the conversations in the
original skeptic because we.
That's what the audience islooking for.
So we get that.
So, so we do ask pragmatic questions.
We don't just accept thingsoffhand as, as, as true.

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So you communicate with animals.
Was there any drinking ordrugs involved or how do you know
for sure?
We don't.
We're not quite that blunt,but we do.
You are sometimes.
Well, sometimes.
See what, see what happenswhen you're around a cop.
You can't lie.
But, but I would say that the,the healing modalities really helped

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me to wrap my head around.
There's more to this thanmeets the eye.
What I've learned the mostrecently that I think has changed
my life more than anything isthe focus change where we, when we
first started the show, wewere talking to people about different
types of modalities because wewanted to play with all the tools,
all the, all the toys.

(25:28):
Well, one particularconversation that we had with Jonathan
Robinson showed me that ourtools, our toys are actually inside
of us.
And it was just as simple astalking to us about his.
The most powerful mantra inthe world.
And if, if, if you don't mind,I'm happy To tell you the story real

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quick.
You're twisting my arm.
Please.
Well, I don't.
I can't take credit for this.
This story.
This is definitely JonathanRobinson story.
He's an amazing person, superlearned, and he's interviewed just
all these Mother Teresa.
Didn't he learn to meditatewith the Dalai Lama?
He was friends with Ram Dass,like, so he's.

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He's incredible a human being.
But when he was just in aseeking stage, his.
One of his closest friendscame to him and said, oh, my gosh,
Jonathan, I found.
I went to India and I foundthe world's most powerful mantra.
I think Jonathan's office.
Fantastic.
What is it?
I need to know what that is because.
Oh, I can't.
I can't tell you.
You have to experience it for yourself.
Jonathan's like, what do you mean?

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I'm not going to go to Indiato find it.
Just tell me what the mantra is.
He goes, no, I can't.
You have to experience it for yourself.
So off Jonathan goes.
He does what he never thoughthe would do.
He travels all the way to India.
And it's a fiasco.
The amount of difficulties hehad getting to India.
And then once he got to India,how to.
To get to the mountain wherethis guru was at was impossible.

(26:54):
How many took tooks he took.
And it was, it was just.
It was a journey in and of itself.
It was the most difficultthing he's ever had to do.
So he finally gets to the guruand he.
He waits in line for his timeto have an audience with the guru.
And finally he's in front ofthe guru and then he says, master,
I have been waiting for so long.

(27:15):
I have traveled across so many miles.
I had.
This has been such a difficult journey.
All because I must know whatthe world's most powerful mantra
is.
And the guru looks at him andgoes, oh, yes, the world's most powerful
mantra.
It's a very powerful mantra.
Are you sure you're ready for it?
Yes, yes, yes, master, I'mready for it.

(27:37):
Please, please tell me what,what that one is.
It's okay.
Since you asked, here it is.
The world's most powerfulmantra in the world is simply thank
you.
And Jonathan cannot believewhat he has just heard and just completely

(27:57):
bursts out, thank you.
That's the world's most powerful.
I traveled thousands of milesacross all this stuff to get to and
it's thank you.
Well, thanks for nothing.
And the guru says, no, no,thank you.
Not thanks for nothing.
Thank you.
And he walks away.
Only to find that over time,he learned how powerful that mantra

(28:23):
actually is.
When you live your life ingratitude, it opens up everything
for you, and.
You realize how much more youhave to be grateful for.
He said he started right offthe bat.
He's like, all right.
Drove out, you know, flew outthere, spent all this money.
He's in the airport.
He's like, well, they have air conditioning.
Thank you.
And then he has to Skype withhis wife to tell her about the flight.
He's like, well, I can connectwith my wife across the world.

(28:44):
Thank you.
You know, and he, like, themore he did it, the more it just
became part of who he was.
A habit, you know, and it justchanged everything for him.
An expensive lesson, but avaluable lesson.
But he had to experience it for.
Himself, to really makehimself do it, you know?
You know, that.
That.
I think if we all should.

(29:04):
Just a second, please.
Sorry.
We all should take thatopportunity to say thank you.
I mean, gratitude is.
I didn't have to travel toIndia to understand the value of
thank you.
I appreciate your story.
That's.
I made me laugh.
I had to hold the microphoneaway from me so you guys didn't hear
me laughing.

(29:27):
But in going through thejourneys that we've gone through
and going through my journey,I learned the value of being grateful
for everybody that was aroundme, everybody that helped me through
my journey as well, andeverybody that helped me to walk
and had the belt around me andheld the back of it to hold me up
while I was learning how tobalance myself again and getting
me up off the.
Up out of the bed and doingthe same thing every time my wife

(29:49):
had to take me to the bathroom.
Not to be blunt, but you knowwhat I mean?
It's for simple things, forbeing there, for.
For just being there, for supporting.
Sometimes words weren't.
Weren't said or didn't need tobe said, but being grateful for that,
kind of.
So, yeah, it's a brilliant lesson.
Amazing lesson.

(30:10):
And it didn't.
It didn't cost us any.
Anything.
So thank you.
No, thank you.
No.
But it was so true.
And it's so easy for us totake things for granted.
We.
We live a blessed life, andespecially in this country, we are
unbelievably blessed.
And.
And it's always.
It's easy to complain.

(30:31):
It's easy to fall into ego andsay, I'm.
It's unfair.
Right?
And that word, unfair isactually unfair, because when you
think about it, how many things.
When you wake up in themorning, can you Say thank you for.
Yeah, just say it's a myriadof of them.

(30:52):
A bed.
Exactly.
Yes, a bed.
The food, the air we breathe,the water we drink, the, the, the
opportunities that arise to us.
That physicist, StephenHawking, you know, he is immobile.
He can barely move his eyes.
He is in this wheelchair.

(31:13):
His body is racked.
He cannot, he cannot move.
He.
It's such a.
Difficult for him just to breathe.
I must say, he Even a victim.
Of domestic abuse, I can'tspeak to.
That, but I think he was.
Well, yeah, he was nominatedfor an award and when he went and
he.
To accept the award, he cameout on stage to accept the award

(31:34):
and they asked him, do youhave any words when they gave him
the award?
And he said, only thing I cansay is thank you.
What more could anyone ask for?
How about the use of your legsor your arms or the ability for you

(31:54):
to hug your wife or to be ableto feed yourself or.
Right.
This gentleman, who hadnothing other than a brilliant mind
was saying, what else could heask for but this, the honor of receiving
this award.
That's.
That in and of itself is mindblowing to me.
And, and how much are we goingaround complaining about my coffee's

(32:17):
too cold?
Yeah, it's so simple, it's profound.
Yes.
It's so simple, it's profound.
But, you know, I, as a cop, asa law enforcement officer for those
many years, we see, we seepeople at their worst.
We see the best people attheir worst.
We see, you know, the.

(32:37):
Well, death, dying, suicide,homicide, assaults, anger, depression,
resentment, you name it.
There's a gamut that goesthrough that.
The world needs a lot more, alot more opportunity to be grateful
for where we're at in life andwhat we do have in life.

(33:00):
And that message that yougave, even with the simple words,
both stories that you gavewith thank you is an important start
because no matter where you'reat, you have to be grateful for something.
That you woke up, that youhave a coat, that you have shoes
on your feet, that you havefood in your stomach.
It's so simple, it's profound.
It's just simple, profound.

(33:21):
Absolutely.
I know that new reality tv.
Can we talk about that a bit?
I think it's kind of aconscious media for a new era is
how I think I read it described.
You're building a platform for awakening.
It's not just an app.
It's a revolution of frequency.
Right.
You're changing the frequencyof how we interact.

(33:41):
Can you tell me a little bitabout that?
That's the goal to change thefrequency, to raise the vibrations.
We have currently such a toxicculture that we're living in, and
everyone is feeling that, youknow, feeling like a victim or feeling
afraid or feeling angry.
I want to blame someone else, whatever.
It's just permeating everything.
And we need a break.
We need hope, we need love.

(34:02):
We need to feel that positive energy.
And so we.
We had one of the reasons.
So just a little backtracking.
We were actually going to stopthe podcast skeptic metaphysicians
a few years ago because, asyou know, it takes a ton of work.
And I have to say, Will wasdoing all the work.
I kind of just show up and talk.
But there's a little more thanthat behind the scenes.

(34:25):
You were the PA Pretty much.
So.
And it was taking time awayfrom our family time.
And so we're like, all right.
We sat down, we're like, okay,we're gonna sunset this.
And I said, well, let's.
Let's just look and see ifanyone's ever even listened.
And so I kind of was doing aGoogle search on it, and I found
this.
We didn't really know aboutpodcasting much, and I guess it was

(34:48):
Apple podcasts.
I don't know somewhere wherethere's all these reviews that we
had no idea about.
And there were several pagesof reviews, and I'm not trying to,
like, brag or anything, butthey were all five star reviews.
People had taken the time towrite paragraphs about our podcast,
and we're not experts onanything, we're just asking questions.
But what we found was a commonthread, and especially the last one

(35:09):
I remember reading, there'sthis guy, and he was talking about
how, you know, he reallycouldn't talk to anybody about this
stuff.
And, you know, he reallyappreciates the podcast and he ends
it with, thank you for helpingme feel normal.
And, you know, we looked ateach other and it was just like,
well, if we're helping oneperson, we can't stop this.
And then as it does, theuniverse put everything into place.
Will found some really greatsoftware that cut his editing time

(35:31):
down to like a third of whatit was and really freed up time.
So we were able to have thefamily time and this as well.
And we have realized throughour conversations, through Will's
cancer, through ourexperiences, that if all of this,
if one podcast is helping usor one person, what.
How many people could behelped by a big mass grouping of

(35:52):
these shows?
And so really that's why wedecided to build this.
It's a place where it's a safe haven.
You're not going to findanything fear related.
You're not going to findanything political, anything that's
scary or scandalous orsensationalized, divisive.
It's just a group of peoplethat are creating this beautiful
uplifting content.
Just trying to put it outthere to help other people.

(36:13):
People.
Yeah.
So our, our thought process is.
Liken it to that story withthe, the monkeys with the papayas.
I'm not sure if you heard thestory, but across, across an ocean
really on an island was a setof monkeys where one monkey somehow.
A set.
A set of monkeys.

(36:33):
Yes.
A set of monkeys.
That's the, that's theofficial term for there's a dozen.
It's a gaggle of monkeys.
I like how she catches you.
I don't feel alone.
We should mention that's the show.
So our show is very different.
We, we do laugh a lot on the show.
We tend to approach a topicwith levity because the topic can

(36:56):
be heavy sometimes, but weapproach it with, with a smile.
And that actually makes peopleenjoy it more.
At least us.
It makes us enjoy more.
Exactly.
And yeah, there was a set ofmonkeys on one island.
One monkey one day was, wasgetting a papaya and it fell into
the water and he picked it up.
He, he kind of noticed it was,it was like washed.

(37:18):
And he opened it and ate it.
And from that point forward hewould go and wash his papayas every
time before he went to eat it.
And other monkeys startedseeing that and went, wait, he's
going to let me do that too.
And they started washing their papayas.
And before long the entire setof monkeys were washing their papayas.
Well, eventually the hundredthmonkey started washing their papaya.

(37:42):
And across the ocean onanother island, unconnected, completely
disconnected from the otherset of monkeys, those monkeys started
washing their papayas as well.
And the thought process isthat critical mass of monkeys started
washing their papayas and thenit translated across the ocean to

(38:04):
the other set of monkeys.
And so that is what we aretrying to do is bring enough of that
light into the world where wewill finally hit that critical mass
that we need to get thisnonsense out of the ether that we're
dealing with right now.
You go on YouTube and younever know what you're going to be

(38:25):
served.
There's so much fear basedcontent on there that when I go on
there, I never know if I'mgoing to be triggered because I'm
watching something that I like.
And also the next video isjust something that's designed to
make me respond with fear.
We don't really resonate with that.
So new reality TV is meant tohelp change that conversation in

(38:48):
a very distinct way.
And that's why we built it.
And I think it's an amazing opportunity.
I love the word opportunity,so you might hear me say it quite
a bit, because I believeeverything in life is an opportunity
we can choose.
And that choice is to eithermove forward or stay where we're
at or regress in.
Moving forward is the key to everything.
And if you provide a platformand the opportunity in an outlet

(39:12):
where somebody can moveforward in life in a positive way.
There's too much chaos in the world.
I mean, there's chaoseverywhere, and not just local.
It's all over the world.
It is that we need an outletthat allows for us to be able to
get away and get understandingand not necessarily escape, but have
a better understanding and abetter calmness and a better opportunity

(39:36):
for us to be able to kind ofconnect with Mother Nature, connect
with the universe, connect theway we need to.
How is it, if I can ask, howis it different?
Because it sounds to me alittle like Gaia.
We had Gaia for a while, andwe were pretty active on it for a
little while.
How's that different forsomething like Gaia or mainstream

(39:58):
streaming?
It's funny you mentioned that,because we actually use that model
as a.
As a way to explain what the.
What the network is like.
Gaia is a phenomenal platform.
However, I was a subscriberfor a long time as well.
However, Gaia does have.
Has fallen.
It seems to have fallen.

(40:19):
I don't want to speak forthem, but they seem to have fallen
into the fear trap.
There's a lot of content onthere that I.
We don't really resonate with,with alien invasion or alien abductions
and demonic possessions andthings like that, which.
It speaks to some people, butit seems like it's designed to get
people drawn in.

(40:40):
And that's.
And that's.
And that's not.
That's not who we are.
We.
We really want to make that distinction.
Secondly, Gaia has wonderfulteachers on there.
Joe Dispenza, Greg Braden,Bruce Lipton, all these wonderful
teachers that are so importantto helping us awaken.

(41:01):
However, we felt that ratherthan have Star Power leading the
way, we prefer to be moreabout regular people going through
spiritual awakenings, helpingother regular people going through
spiritual awakenings.
Things changed so much,especially with COVID and people
became very isolated.
And so when you get into thatfeeling of loneliness and isolation.

(41:24):
What you really crave, whetheryou want to admit it or not, is connection.
And it's so much easier toconnect with someone who is like
you, you know, someone who'ssitting in his living room talking
about this stuff than it is toconnect with someone who is, you
know, on a yacht and whatever,which, I mean, we have some beautifully
produced content as well,don't get us wrong.
But we've got the whole spectrum.
You know, we want to provideoptions for everyone.

(41:45):
And you know, I think thatpeople coming to new reality tv,
if they're stuck in that, thatfear and that, that sense of chaos,
grasp we're giving themoptions or opportunities of other
ways to think and look at things.
And if they choose one ofthose options or many of them or
whatever, it will help themfeel better and learn that there
are different, different waysout there.

(42:07):
Yeah, and like she mentioned,there are, there's a gamut of types
of content.
Right.
We have movies, we havedocumentaries, we have TV shows,
we have shorts, we have allkinds of things.
But the most important thingis that we meet you at whatever level
you are, are.
We have some that are verybeginner shows that are very much
like this one where it's justhaving conversations across two box.

(42:28):
Then we have really fullyproduced documentaries about lucid
dreaming, for example, thatreally uses drones and all kinds
of stuff.
So it's really, it's what you prefer.
It's all under one roof.
And even with that, withinthat, we have variety of teachers,
like if you are wanting tolearn about meditation, we have the
people with a very relaxingvoice that'll get you down there.
But we have a woman who is themost spitfire.

(42:50):
She's like literally a rockstar would never think she is a meditation
teacher because she's like,you sit down, you meditate, people
love her.
So there's different types anddifferent styles, even within the
same modalities.
And we're trying to provide asmany different points of view for
everyone.
Yeah, it's, it's a whole onetruth, many paths mentality that
we really fully adhere to.

(43:12):
We believe that our realitiesare created by us.
And my reality is not going tobe the same as hers, it's not gonna
be the same as yours.
And so how, how can wepossibly think that one modality
or one path is actually goingto be a cookie cutter path for everybody?
So by design, and I'm glad youmentioned the fact that it's a global

(43:33):
problem, the chaos that we'reexperiencing, new reality TV is a
global solution.
We have shows, contentpartners from Thailand, from Ireland,
from Scotland, from Canada,from the U.S. from everywhere, Australia,
all over the world.
Because this is not anAmerican problem.
This is not an American solution.

(43:54):
This is a global solution.
And only by all of us comingtogether are we going to be able
to help the world ascend towhere we need to go.
I agree with that and Iappreciate that because you, again,
you open it up to have an audience.
You provide an outlet foraudiences to engage with your content.
And I think that in itself isan opportunity.

(44:18):
I like what you said.
You have documentaries, docuseries, you, you have energy activations,
you have quantum healing and,and meditations and things like this.
And I think we all, Although Idon't know if I could meditate to
like Van Halen rock.
Well, thankfully she doesn'tuse Van Halen.
Rock, but that's good.
She uses a sonic yogi, whichis actually really cool.

(44:39):
Singing bowls and things like that.
But, but before she gets youdown to meditation, she's gonna be,
you're gonna be entertainedbecause she's such a spitfire.
And then, okay, now it's timeto meditate.
Meditate.
It just gets to show you,like, if she can meditate, anybody,
I can meditate.
Anybody can meditate.
And meditation, just for therecord, and I say this over and over
on this channel, meditation isan amazing.

(45:04):
Once you, you experience it,once you learn it, once you master
it, you know, you can startwith a minute and then build the
two minutes and build, buildfrom there and it allows you.
I went through all my operations.
I used meditation to help me.
Instead of Vicodin and thecodeine that they were offering me,
I used meditation, acupuncture.

(45:26):
My wife brought me juicesevery day to the hospital and things
like this.
So meditation played aninteresting perspective with regard
to my healing personally.
And she actually talks aboutthe fact that just start with three
minutes and then stay at threeminutes for a long time and then
just slowly inch your way up, up.

(45:46):
I.
For a while.
I, I couldn't do more than 10.
I'm, I'm too, I'm too active.
I, I need, I can't sit formore than 10 minutes now.
If I do 30 minutes, that'sshort for me because I'm loving the
feeling of being in that void.
Always great, isn't it?
And Karen, you have to go inand wake him up.
Hey, hey, hey.

(46:07):
You've been down too long.
Yeah, yeah, we need to wrotethis up.
What role do you thinkconscious media plays in the collective
awakening that we're kind ofseeing right now.
I think that, you know, in theconversations that I've had, I've
had more and moreconversations like what we're having
here and an awakening acrossthe, across the board.

(46:27):
Do you think it's, do youthink it is the chaos or do you think
that people are trying toreach out to kind of heal that chaos?
I want to think it's thelatter, but sadly I believe it's
the former.
I think that it is now.
I think, I think things arestarting to shift in a different
direction.
Unfortunately.

(46:48):
Every, and I wish I the oneinterview, I don't have my phones
with me.
But what, what is it thatwe're always on, right?
No matter who you are acrossthe day, we're always consuming media.
On our phones, on our tabletsand our computers and our TVs, wherever
we are, we're consuming media.
When you look at the shift inmedia over the past 10 years, we

(47:09):
talked about YouTube usingfear based content being served out
as a way for them to grab youright to, to get you down that rabbit
hole.
Fear sells, anger sells,violence sells these things.
Media caught on to.
And I could say that becauseI've worked in media my entire career,

(47:32):
starting with the news, whennews started shifting to where we
are now, that's when Ithought, okay, it's time for me to
go because it wasn'tcomfortable for me.
But now the media, I refuse towatch the news anymore because all
it does is serve you what theythink you want because it draws you
in.

(47:52):
What do you mean there's a conflict?
What do you mean there's this.
So I, I don't, I won't watchthe news anymore.
I will get my news from a,from an app or something that I,
I, I might read the headlinesor something like that.
But, but it's difficult for meto watch the news.
So go to social media and, andthe landscape get, gets even murkier.

(48:13):
The, the algorithms that they,that they have, they serve, they
really serve you.
Stuff that's going to ex.
Absolutely.
So I think we have anobligation as being in the media
ourselves, we have anobligation to utilize the tool that

(48:34):
is causing these problems todrive a solution.
And that's really what newreality TV is for us.
It is a way for us to combatthat, to use media in a conscious
way so that we can thenutilize the power, power of that
constant consumption to helpinstead of to hurt.

(48:56):
You know, I love, you knowwhen I say this, obviously it's a
double Edged sword.
I love my iPhone because itallows me instant connection whenever
we need.
It's the messaging with mykids, with my family, my wife, my
sister, my brother in law, youknow, anybody along that line also
have instant connection to the news.
Like you said, instead of youget news briefs kind of constant

(49:18):
flashing news briefs.
I had to turn them off.
And we don't watch the newsanymore either because it became
such a fear mongering.
Everybody wants to who's gotthe bigger headline enough to get
you to stick to the channel.
And then you go to bed atnight and you can't sleep because
there's so much bouncingaround in your head about what you

(49:40):
just saw.
Based on that, how's NewReality TV creating a hub for seekers,
mystics and conscious creatorsto help us kind of step out of that
mode within ourselves and toconnect the way that we want them
to connect?
Well, we have a very carefulvetting system.
We meet and have longconversations with every person that's

(50:02):
producing content.
So we just don't take stuffand put it out there.
And there are four things andwe kind of hit on them that we specifically
require.
And that is that there isn'tanything that is fear based.
And we understand that that inhealings things can get ugly.
And that's fine.
If that stuff is out there inthe process of showing or teaching

(50:23):
about healing, that'sdifferent than just showing demonic
possessions to see how scaryit is.
Everyone has to go throughshadow work.
It's part of the process.
So we want everything has tobe positive and uplifting to content.
No politics at all whatsoeverat all.
It's a safe zone for politics.
And we do have a lot ofdifferent modalities.
We have a Norse shaman, wehave someone who records plant music.

(50:47):
We have channelers, all kinds.
So even if something doesn'tresonate with you, even if you don't
necessarily believe thatthat's a possibility.
One of the requirements isthat our content partners never disparage
any other modality.
Because though it might not beyour truth, it certainly is to someone
else.
And if the goal from everybodyis to heal and to help raise the
vibrations, then it's not bad content.

(51:10):
One thing also that I likeabout New Reality that is different
than a lot of the networks isour content partners, the people
that create these wonderful shows.
And we call them partnersbecause we're all in this together.
They're accessible.
You know, they, they all puttheir information on there.
This is my email, this is mycontact if you want to talk to me.
Give me a, you know, shoot mea message.
And I love that because whencan you watch a show and see someone

(51:32):
and go, oh, wow, that's reallycool, I'm going to reach out to them
and, and they respond.
Right.
So that's, that's anotherthing that I think makes us a little
bit different.
Yeah, it's a really cool community.
If for content creators, theycome in and they, they find a community
that is very welcoming andthat is very nurturing.
We've had the, we have a, acontent partner that lives in Thailand,

(51:54):
another one that lives in Alaska.
And to show you the, the, theconnections that we make through
this community, the ThaiBuddhist shaman flew across the country
to go to Alaska to try to do ashow with our Norse shaman in Alaska.
So two completely differentmodalities who are collaborating
together because they met like different.

(52:15):
Ages, one's very young onesmuch older, just very different.
Yes.
And so it is, it is a, it is anurturing community.
It is a place where, whetheryou're here to watch the content.
Content or to provide thecontent, it.
Is a safe place and it's very genuine.
We, a couple of months agodecided to do a summit because we're

(52:36):
just, it's a fairly newbusiness or I guess, platform, and
we wanted to do something totry to put a little bit of money
in the back of the pockets ofthese content partners that were
doing all of this wonderfulwork for us.
So someone said, well, let'sdo a summit.
We thought, great, we'll dothe summit for the weekend.
We can, you know, have a, justnot a really big fee, but a fee for
people to come and participateand then that way we can get some

(52:56):
money back to that.
Well, they all were kind oflike, well, hem.
And ha.
And then finally one personsaid, what if we just do it for free?
And they were all like, yeah,yeah, let's just do it for free.
Which was amazing.
So that showed us they're notin it for the money.
Yeah.
They're in it because theywant to help people.
And we had 16 hours worth oflectures or presentations, group

(53:19):
healings, meditations, totally free.
Yeah.
Past life regressions.
And I think that's the biggestdifference between new reality TV
and the other networks.
It's not about the money for us.
For us, it's about gettingthese messages out.
Of course, we have bandwidthissues, we have storage issues, we

(53:39):
have costs associated with itthat we have to cover, but we want
to be.
Karen dropped the wordbusiness on, in the, in the conversation.
And I kind of shuddered alittle bit because we, we want it
to be a new type of business.
We want it to be a consciousbusiness where it's not about how
much money can we make, it'smore about how much can we help.

(54:03):
And if we are of in service,then the universe won't help but
to provide us with what weneed to carry the network across.
And so everyone, all of ourcontent partners would love to do
this for a living.
We would love to do this fulltime for a living is what our calling
is.
So we, we, we feel that doingthis in service will do that.

(54:23):
But you shouldn't shudder atthe term business because part of
our goal is to change the waybusinesses run.
Yes.
So we have to be able toattach that to what we're doing so
people can see that model and go.
Oh, you're, you're absolutely right.
This is a conscious business,a different way.
This is the way of the future.
This is the way businessesshould, should work.
Rather than how much moneycould I possibly make?

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How much good can we do in the world?
And the universe will give uswhat we need to meet that force.
The universe provides.
The universe provides whatit's supposed to and what we need
and how we need it.
And I think that once we startexperiencing that, it's a better
understanding of how thatcomes to us.
And I think you have the rightmindset for that.
What's next?
What's next for the movement?
What's next for all of, all ofthis Global domination.

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You forgot the pinky finger.
Finger.
Next.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
Right.
I'm not sure.
Brain.
So what's next?
The.
The network is brand new.
We just launched in January.
We are going to be doingretreats, we're going to be doing
workshops and classes.
We want to be more than just amedia channel.

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We want to be a, a place foreveryone to learn and to grow together.
And I mean, I'll be like a.
Tool for your life.
Yeah.
Very honest.
We created the network becauseI'm selfish, because I want this.
I want it for me.
And so if, if no one was doingit, I have to do it because I need
it.

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That's a lot of work.
You shouldn't have to do it alone.
Right.
So.
And that's why when Karen saidwe, we call them counter content
partners because we are all init together.
So together we'll buildsomething that will be super special
special, including retreatsand workshops and classes and a place
for people to go and grow andlearn together.
Because we're learning just asmuch as the content partners in the

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audience is as well.
That I think is a veryvaluable opportunity.
You know, that's one thing I'mgrateful for in my podcast because
over the last six years I'vebeen able to learn, you know, along
the way as myself and it'sallowed me to grow and learn from
each conversation that I'vehad and move forward.
And you know, I've workedthrough so many things, including
my own pt, ptsd, selfishly, ifyou want to, we talk about a little

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selfish through these kind ofconversations and so forth.
So, you know, I'm, I'm, I'mwilling to, and I'm, I'm happy that
you guys are here.
And where can we find you andhow can we this audience and how
can we help you support you?
Well, the very, very easiestplace to go [e-mail]

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We love, love to hear from people.
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So you'll find thatinformation in the newsletter.
Yep.
And then there's even a linkto new reality tv.
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But if you just want to accessnew reality TV, you just go to newrealitytv.com
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And if you don't know reallywhat you want to watch beyond the
streaming platform, we do havea 24.7international broadcast, so
there's always something playing.
So you can kind of check itout and go from there.

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Yep.
And then if you fall in lovewith the show, you can then go into
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But skepticmetaphysician.comthat's probably the best place to
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Start.
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get where they need to go.

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We could talk for anotherhour, two hours.
Easily.
Easily.
But as always, at the end ofevery journey, there's a truth to
be waiting to be spoken.
And can I ask, what's onetruth you've each discovered on this
journey that you Wish everyone knew.
The powers inside each one of us.

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It's.
There's no need to lookoutside of us for the answers.
It's all inside.
All you need to do is gowithin and you can find your answer.
It is all hidden right here aslong as you're able to let go.
Growth is at the edge of ourcomfort zones.
And when we're uncomfortable,that's when we're growing.

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And so it's difficultsometimes to look inside and find
things that you maybe aren'thappy with.
Those are the things we needto find in order to grow.
Brilliant.
I would say that that powerthat he's talking about is love.
Because love has so manydifferent forms.
It's not just your mother, daughter.
It's not just a couple.
It's so many different forms,and it is so easy to spread.

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Just a little kindness tosomeone, just a random compliment
to someone who, you know, didtheir nails fancy that day, that
that's all it takes to changesomeone's day.
And if everyone does that justa little bit, we'll get just this
massive wave and the worldwill be a better place.
That's brilliant.
In fact, I just had aconversation this morning that we
expressed that, so.

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See how the universe kind ofcarried that over to this conversation?
That's pretty darn cool.
Yep.
Yeah.
That's funny how that works.
It is.
This is one more thing beforeyou go.
So before we go, words of wisdom.
If you.
You could leave one messagefor future generations of seekers,
what would it be?
Oh, pay attention to the unexpected.

(59:55):
I like that one.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
See?
Some good clues.
Yeah.
For me, as a former skeptic, Iwould say along the same lines, allow
yourself to open to the possibilities.
Because we go through lifealways assuming.
Yeah.
That can't happen.

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But if you allow yourself justthat one little step, allow yourself
to believe that it could bepossible, suddenly anything and everything
is possible.
Brilliant.
All of it's brilliant words of wisdom.
So thank you, guys.
Thank you very much for comingon the show.
Thank you for connecting.
I know it took us a little bitto get here, but we are here and

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I value everything that youjust shared with us.
So I appreciate your journey.
I appreciate your wisdom.
Well, we're very grateful thatyou were patient with us and we're
very grateful to be on yourshow altogether.
So thank you for providing the platform.
Absolutely.
And I'll make sure thateverything's in the show.
Notes to make sure it's easyfor somebody to connect by clicking
the link.
Just a reminder for everyoneelse out there.

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Thank you.
Will and Karen, thank you verymuch again for joining me.
I really appreciate youconnecting with what you're giving
back to the world in suchpositive ways.
That's a wrap for today's episode.
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That healing isn't always linear.
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