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October 20, 2025 28 mins

End of the Road 4 miler finished 1st Overall. Also new course record. Me and 2nd smashed previous record.


Was a mixed bag. Felt super good when race actually started took off right away lead from start to finish. But it was alot closer in the end then id like to admit. It be easier to explain in video recap. I didnt look back the whole way out had no idea what was happening g behind. Though hoped for a minute or more lead at turn that was not the case maybe had 10-15 at most so hard to tell. Cause things happened so quick. So yea couldn't play around. Tried to keep hammering way back. Thought the very slight downhill would help me run faster. But no, it did not.


Think I was fatigued from Fridays high miles then racing yesterday plus overeating. It finally was setting in on the way back. But I couldn't relax since I didnt have that big of a lead. Kept pushing. Both ways occasionally I felt myself slowing down so had force myself lean forward and get going. Around the 3 mile marker in tunnel was starting feel that gag feeling creeping up. Also tried control breathing was breathing too much thru mouth and not nose. Need to calm down breathing and try slow heart rate. Was not working.


When popped out tunnel id say had 10 seconds maybe 15 which would have been a streych again to hard tell because i didnt look at watch when popped out likeninshould have so i could get a estimate like normally would. But was gagging. Didn't think id hang on. Gave it all in had for short period. Not sure when heart hit 194 id have dive in morebgarmin said hit 202. But that's insane for me. That's death level for me. Anyway kept going knowing 2nd was right behind me. Started gag more and knew was gonna puke. Did like 3 times from coming out tunnel to finsih.


I looked back once as I was puking and said fuck it. No stopping if want to win. So got some puke on shorts and shirt cause I couldnt even adjust form to stay ahead. Somehow recovered just enough to pull it out with 2nd like 5ish seconds behind me. He even said that when he saw look back and puke he thought I was done. But I got it and the record and win.


Def listen to video recap.


But had to go walk back out few tenths to get photo puke spots.



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(00:01):
End of the road 4 Miller finished first overall in
244225, which is a new course record by like a minute, 7
minute 8, which I actually had from a couple years ago, I think

(00:21):
2023. So that was pretty cool that I
lowered the bar a little bit today.
Well, I don't want to say a little bit minute minute 7
minute 8. It's pretty damn good way to
lower it. I mean, 15 seconds a mile.
So I'll take that any day of theweek.

(00:44):
They did something really cool this year.
I guess it's going to stay therepermanently because they painted
it on the the road itself by like the registration tent slash
the award area, the winning times for the half slash 4.
Miller for the races over the years told him I was like,
where's the marathon that I won?Because they only did that like

(01:04):
twice, but they didn't put thosedown.
But they got the half and the four mile time's down for each
year for male and female. So I got some pictures from that
as well. But so that was pretty cool.
So I could see my name a couple of times on the on on the
ground. She actually painted my name in
before I left. She's like because she saw me

(01:27):
taking a picture of like the previous times and be pointing
at the blank spot and she's like, oh, how long you going to
stick around? I'll do it now.
So she did that. So that was that was awesome.
So suck her off for another like15 minutes.
But anyway, I wasn't sure how today was going to go.
Obviously I wanted to win. I was hoping to win.

(01:51):
If you didn't read my yesterday's race recap.
Friday I did some long miles or a long day.
I did 20 miles total running andthen 20 biking.
I didn't finish up till 9:15 PM and I was racing Saturday at
9:00 AM and I felt really fatigued beginning of

(02:13):
yesterday's race because I did. I think I ran 16 point,
something like 16 1/2 of 1 clip and then I had to go do the
treadmill and the rest. Then I biked Friday.
So when I woke up yesterday, it started to run a little bit.
I was a little bit heavy, so I wasn't sure how I was going to
respond today after that Friday 2020 day, yesterday's 5K.

(02:40):
So in an hour, 40 minute drive to get here this morning.
So I was like hoping for the best, expecting the worst a
little bit, maybe not expecting the worst.
That recovered pretty good, so wasn't too necessarily
concerned. I just knew I wasn't going to
have that top end Sprint juice, you know, like Sprint at the

(03:03):
finish line if somebody was going to challenge me.
So I had to be careful with that.
And I wasn't necessarily really awake before the race started.
I was kind of dragging a little bit, kind of in a crabby mood.
Not pissy mood, but just crabby in general because the drive was

(03:25):
boring. The drive's boring to get here
and I don't know, I slept the good enough, but it was just
dark and uneventful. I mean a lot.
It was an uneventful drive, but it's just such a boring drive in
general. I'm not a big fan of the route I

(03:46):
took. Like basically took 30 the whole
way. A little windy as well.
I even had a stomp at sheets on the way to clean my windshield
off because it was too buggy. So either way, I got to the
race, went to the team 10, got my bag because being the team
10, only I athletics had the biggest, well, not the biggest

(04:06):
team. Well, I guess we did have the
biggest team, but we're the onlyteam that qualified to get like
the extra perks some the team 10some extra food and stuff in in
our bags there so we didn't haveto wait in line.
We didn't get the port of Johns though, or the banner.
I was hoping for the banner. Either way, whatever got to the

(04:28):
race still really wasn't woken up.
It was like 60° when I left the house.
It was maybe 4045 when I got there.
So it was definitely chillier. So I threw out some jogging
pants and extra hoodie as I first went over because I got
there a little bit early today, probably an hour early.

(04:50):
So like 720, I think 725 is whenI rolled in.
Race started at 8:20 for the four Miller.
The half started at 8:00 becausethey do the half today and the
four Miller. But now they staggered the
starts a little bit. They had a half yesterday as
well. So yeah, I wasn't going to fully

(05:16):
get ready right away when I got there, went over to the teen
tent, looked around. I was going to listen to the pre
race meeting, but I said the heck with that.
Jumped in line for the pooper, took a little poop, a couple of

(05:38):
people cut in line, some women weren't paying attention to the
line. I was like, what the hell,
anyway, just to complain about some women a little bit.
Yeah, I did that. Finally went over, got my shoes
on, took my pants off, started to get ready a little bit.

(06:03):
I wore my calf sleeves, my ISO chill black under armours, heavy
three player. I wore that new black mesh top
that I have the racer top or a black generic hat that I had and
I brought my good headlamp with me today because I wanted to see

(06:25):
pretty good in the tunnel. I don't want to trip over
anything. So I brought my new, my new
Phoenix Light 65-R or whatever it is.
So I played with that a little bit because I don't get to use
it much. So I wasn't really sure how to
remember how to turn it on for the bright, bright setting.
Jogged around a little bit, got loosened up.

(06:47):
I was like, I actually feel pretty decent, actually.
Then some stretches, Yeah, I peed again.
I think I peed twice before the race started after pooping, just
to clear some things out. Yeah, I for some reason I felt

(07:11):
sort of locked in and I don't want to jinx it, but when I was
warming up, listening to music and stuff like that, things just
started clicking today a little bit.
I was like, all right, maybe we will have a good day.
I was just, it just seemed like once I put my MP3 player on
today, it started warming up like there was almost like a

(07:33):
switch click clicking today. It's just like, all right, it's
go time, you know what to do type deal.
So that was pretty cool. I don't get that very often, but
that light little flicker or whatever you want to call it,
that switch got flicked on and Ijust felt confident for some
reason. Not cocky, but confident.

(07:55):
I was like, you know what you can do?
You know what you need to do, get it done type of thing.
So then a couple minutes before the yeah, like 4 minutes before
the race started, peed again, splashed a bunch of water on
myself. Get myself cooled down for the
race on my hat and on my body just so I didn't overheat that

(08:20):
much. It works.
Keep telling people it works. I know people don't like to be
wet before race, but it definitely works.
Got up to the start line, lookedaround.
I was like, all right, couple people look like they were going
to give me some trouble, but I just felt confident like that

(08:43):
cool, calm confidence that you know, if you have your, you
know, if you have your type of race, you can do it.
So but being locked in, I was, Ijust said confident.
So when they counted us down, for some reason, I just took
off. I just was like gone, didn't pay

(09:07):
attention to what was going on around me, what was going on
behind me. I didn't look back at all the
whole way out. I was just focusing on myself
and until somebody would have passed me, I wasn't going to
worry about it. Or if I saw like a light right
on my ass in the tunnels, I wasn't going to worry about
anything. I just wanted to run hard and
just keep going and plugging away and not worry about anybody

(09:29):
else zoned into my music and just run hard and that's what I
did. There was actually a few other
people in the tunnel, some half still, and just some random like
tourists in the tunnel itself. Tunnel you got maybe 1/2 mile

(09:49):
maybe before you actually hit the tunnels and then the tunnels
about a mile and 1/2. So in the tunnel itself, well, I
actually fumble with my light a little bit before getting into

(10:12):
the tunnel. I made sure I had the the
correct light I wanted because the Phoenix that I have has has
like a yellowish light and then like a a white light.
I wanted the white light and then click it on the highest
setting. So I did lose maybe a second
fumbling with that because I hadto actually take it off my head.

(10:36):
Not that that was a big deal, but then in the tunnel I tried
to go as hard as I could and there were sometimes I felt
myself slowing up. So then I had to get my lean
forward again and just start pushing.
I was like, people are coming. Like trying to get in that
mindset. People are coming at you, people
are coming, they're coming, they're coming, they're
catching. You got to get going.

(10:58):
I think that helped me tremendously in the tunnels
because sometimes you get into those tunnels because it's dark,
you sort of relax, you pull backa little bit.
But I wanted to keep myself going hard.
So I had to get in that mindset.You got to keep pushing you, you
know, you can't let off at all because again, I didn't know
what was happening behind me andI felt pretty good.

(11:21):
I was getting a little hot in the tunnel, not overheated or
anything, but I just knew I was pushing pretty good for what I
had on my legs at the time. Let me see.
Yeah. So you got that like mile and a
half tunnel on, you know the wayout.

(11:43):
Didn't know what was going on behind me.
I was hoping for a minute. I'm walking a lot.
I even told the guy I was like, man, I was hoping for a minute
or more at the turn around so I could take it easy and pull back
some. I was like, I was really hoping
for it because I didn't know what I was going to be able to
do the rest of the race, but I might have had, I don't know,

(12:07):
maybe 15 seconds, maybe 20 at the most, if that.
Somewhere between 10 and 20. It's hard to judge because I
didn't get to look at my watch too much because when I pumped
out the tunnel, I wanted water real quick just to splash on
myself. The one guy wasn't paying
attention. So I did that and then I went

(12:29):
around the turn around point, which I actually think I went
around a little bit farther instead of like the actual code
that you're supposed to turn around that.
I think I went around the backside of the sign.
So I lost like a second or two there by going around the bigger
sign instead of the code. I caught that mistake as I was
doing it, but I was like whatever, Hopefully it's not

(12:51):
that big of a deal. It just slowed me down, just the
hair as well. But then I saw that second place
guy and I was like, man, you really don't have much of A
lead. I was like, if you blew up or at
all, pretty much fucked. So I was pretty worried.
I was like, well, got to go hard, got to go hard.

(13:11):
So I went through the tunnels and I'm like, that sucks.
I was like, why couldn't I have a minute?
I got that mindset. It was like, man, I really wish
I had a whole minute or more so I can just like pull back and
take it easy instead of redlining.
But no, didn't have that luxury.And then the whole way through

(13:34):
the tunnel on the way back, people were cheering for me.
A lot of people were screaming my name.
And then just, you know, like, you know, I don't know whatever
they're saying. Like I know there's something
like go, go, go or, you know, cheer, just cheering in general.
I'm trying to think of what all they said because I know some of

(13:55):
it like caught my attention, butwhatever, A lot of clapping.
I didn't acknowledge any of it because I was just trying to
stay focused and keep my form undeviated today.
So yeah, sorry to people that I didn't acknowledge or, you know,

(14:18):
do anything that I normally would do, you know, give it a
little like hand wave or whatever because I think if I
would have broke my form, I would have been screwed.
Who knows, I just kept pushing. I was trying to listen at the
same time, you know, people to cheer the 2nd place guy behind

(14:40):
me. But it was so hard to
differentiate if he was getting closer, if he was, you know,
fading back or what was going onbehind me.
So I didn't even pay attention on the way back through the
tunnel. So the only time I really
noticed him for like the first 3miles I was at the turn around.

(15:03):
I didn't look back at all on theway out and then the whole time
the way back in the tunnel. Now getting out of the tunnel is
a different story. So I don't know what was going
on behind me because I figured if I got looking behind me, you
know, he would get that blood inthe watertight filling and I

(15:27):
didn't want that. And I also didn't want to see
him closing the gap on me eitherand then get that adrenaline
rush or that anxiety going in mybody.
So I couldn't look back. But around the three mile mark
inside the tunnel, I noticed I was starting to like choke or

(15:47):
gag a little bit. I think it was just because of
the still air inside the tunnel.I'm not sure exactly what it
was. Probably also redlining because
that's about the time my heart rate really spiked.
Looking at the data, I wasn't paying attention to my heart
rate on my watch, but it definitely spiked very high.

(16:10):
I don't know if it was just because we were in the tunnels,
but I don't think it was becausethe heart rate's going off my
wrist and not like tunnels or anything like that.
So it shouldn't have interfered at all, but in spite the like
2O2, which is unheard of for me even in like the one 80s, one
90s, which it was for a good bit.

(16:34):
Yeah, that's super high for me. Like it almost looks like 2 1/2
three miles. In the rest of the race my heart
rate was above 180, which is danger zone to me.
Like that's like pure death for me.
It my heart rate should never ever be that high.

(16:55):
So I don't know what was up withthat.
Maybe because I was just runningtoo hard, pushing too hard.
Maybe that's why I was gagging. I don't know.
I was trying to control my breathing because I knew I was
breathing a lot harder than I should have been.
Of course, I was also going harder than I should have.
Well, I don't want to say shouldhave been, but normally do, I

(17:16):
guess is what the way to say that.
And I was also breathing throughmy mouth more than my nose and I
think I was helping me gag as well.
So I was trying to calm myself because I knew my heart rate was
high even though I wasn't looking at my watch.
So I was trying to calm myself mentally and physically by, you

(17:39):
know, settling my breathing down, breathing through my nose
and out through my mouth type ofdeal.
I don't know if it really helpedat all because I think I ended
up having to go back to just breathing through my mouth in
and out just to get more oxygen into my body and fuel it more.
It also seemed like I was switching from whatever was in

(18:02):
my stomach to like the reserves.Sometimes when I do that switch,
I start to get sick a little bitbecause your stomach's empty, so
it's has nothing to go off of and it needs fuel.
So it's I'm doing a weird switch.
At least it does for me. At least I think that's what it
is anyway. Popped out the tunnel and I was

(18:25):
just dying. I was like, I gagged a few
times. I'm like, fuck.
I was like, you're going to get sick and then you're going to
lose the race because you're going to have to fully stop for
like 30 seconds and you're goingto be pissed off at yourself the
rest of the race, the rest of the day, the rest of the week
because you're going to get sickand you're not going to be able

(18:45):
to control it. Got it under control a little
bit, but by the time I clocked out of the tunnel, the time I
finished, I puked like 3 little times.
I wasn't like a full blown like bucket, full puke, but it was
more like spit up and stuff. The one, well, I think the last

(19:07):
time it might have been a handful, a liquid, nothing
really like food or anything. So yeah, but what I popped down
into the tunnel and waited a fewseconds and I only saw I had
like that 10 second ish lead. I'm like, shit, he's right on

(19:31):
me. I was like, fuck, I was like, we
got a half mile to go. It might have been 15.
I don't know. It's hard to, like I said, it's
hard to judge when you look backlike that running so hard, how
much time you actually have. Because I should have looked
back once I popped out the tunnel instead of waiting a

(19:53):
little bit. Then I would have got a better
reading but whatever. But that got me going.
So as soon as I saw I only had like that 10 second ish made, I
was like well time to give it all you have right now and push.

(20:13):
She closed the gap, or not closed the gap but increased the
gap. So that's what I did for a
couple of tenths. Then I got sick again, picked
that up, but I couldn't stop. That's The thing is I knew I
couldn't stop the recover like Iusually do because there wasn't
enough race left and he was too close to me.

(20:36):
Or if I would have stopped, he just would have overtaken me and
I would have felt caught, confident in saying that, yeah,
I don't think I could have caught him in the end if I fully
stopped and lost all momentum. So I just had to like puke on
the run, which I normally don't do if ever.

(21:03):
And then I don't know if I looked back then or the last
time I puked, but I think it wasfor the second time because he
said I looked back dead at him and he got that feeling that I
was done. He even said that to me.
He's like, when you look back atme, I thought you were done.
So never heard any other podcastor anything.

(21:31):
Yeah, there's that. But somehow managed to hold on
even though he closed the gap well, because I was puking.
And then the third time I puked,it was just like I just like I

(21:56):
don't even know if I turned my head enough, but it because I
got some on my shirt and on my shorts.
But the finish line was right there.
It might have. It was how far, maybe 60 yards
from the finish. It was right there insight.
I was like, you just got to keepgoing.
I was like, you could be puking the whole way to the finish

(22:17):
line, but you got to keep going because he's just, he was right
there. I think I won by 7 or 8 seconds
in the end. So I just had to like puke and
keep going because the finish line was right there.
So I just had to deal with it atthe time I came in and I just I
didn't even grab my medal right away.

(22:38):
I just walked off to the side just like I needed a minute.
So it was a very close call today.
Don't know how I actually pulledit off.
I mean, I'm glad I did, glad I won, but man, that was that was
a really close call just becauseI got sick and it definitely

(23:04):
almost cost me today the race. It just just looking back then,
I can't believe that how close Icame to losing that just from
getting sick today. But again, I felt good, ran
really good and actually got like 4.15 miles.
So even though my time was 24, what when I say 42, I was right

(23:32):
around that 6 flat. I think my watch when I went to
save, it was like 559, so very happy with that.
I stayed pretty much. Obviously around that 6 minute.
It obviously is going to dip up and down, but yeah, definitely

(23:56):
sweat that one out. But overall, after the race
calmed down, hung around, got myward good time.
Glad I wet. These are the cool medals that
they gave out this year. I think they glow in the dark as

(24:16):
well. That's the finishers medal.
This is the age group slash overall awards.
You know, the metal license plate type thing they've always
done like a like a metal licenseplate slash road sign type of
thing for end of the road. Just stick with the theme.

(24:41):
So yeah, pulled it off somehow today even though I was having,
you know, a slow start to the morning with the drive and pre
race. Kind of tired now and then.
Just the way the weekend developed.
So that was pretty good. I did go back and take pictures

(25:03):
of puke slash, spit up, whateveryou would have caught.
There wasn't really any chunks. It was more just like liquid
coming out of me. But I wanted to get pictures for
documentation, you know, pictures of myself.
It's a peek on me. What else?
Oh, the one thing that well, I guess slowed me down both ways

(25:30):
was before getting into the tunnel, somebody like the broken
asphalt part, I did have to go back and forth to side to side
to find a a good route to stay more on the flat smoother parts
than up on some of the bumps. So that probably did cost me
1015 seconds at least during therace, you know, going to having

(25:51):
to go from side to side instead of like a straight shot.
So that was definitely time consuming.
Not sure if anybody behind me like second or whatever it was
falling the same route that I was.
There was something else. Shit, I don't know.

(26:14):
I'll remember as soon as I quit this.
Yeah, just trying not to trip. I think I tried to take a more
direct route on the way back anddidn't worry as much just
because I knew I couldn't go side to side as much.

(26:35):
Whatever, oh, like I'm I'm glad I took my headlamp in the one
that I did with that white with my Phoenix like and I use that
white bigger beam with like 1600lumens or whatever it is.
Glad I used that one today because it just made things more

(27:00):
clear in the tunnel where if I use like the yellow, it wouldn't
like cast a little different shadow.
It's better for trails the yellow than the white.
But I noticed in the tunnel I probably would have tripped once
or twice just stepping on things.
Now it's pretty smooth in there.But there was a couple of like
batteries, like AAA batteries that I just happened to catch a

(27:23):
glimpse off and adjusted my footbefore I landed on one.
So I probably would have landed on some of these batteries and
tripped if I didn't have such a bright light.
So yeah, that was one of the little tidbits that I wanted to
bring up. So other than that, yeah, I made

(27:45):
it. It was close.
Like that guy said, soon as he looked back, he got that, you
know, blood in the water type feeling that I was done.
And he started hunting me down even more.
He got that adrenaline, so I just got lucky.
If I would, if it would have been a longer race, not sure if
I would have been able to hold it off, maybe the half marathon,

(28:07):
I would have been able to recover.
But if it was like 5 miles, I probably would have been done.
For who who got it done? I think this is wind like seven
or eight in a row now. So you're happy with that as

(28:32):
well?
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