How to Gain New Perspectives Through Self-Reflection?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Brothers and sisters.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the Only One Mic Podcast called your Rob
Brooklyn Trey.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
J-rob is off tonight, but listen y'all, we got a very
, very special, special guest inthe house.
His brother.
Here is an award winner,cinematographer, a life coach, a
motivational speaker and somuch more.
Mr Brian, how you doing,brother yo?
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Much more, mr Brian.
How you doing, brother, yo,thank you for having me.
I'm doing great.
I'm doing great.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, we was talking behind the scenes, y'all you
know he was talking aboutbalance, man.
Like you know, the energy justcame off.
The brother, like you know, goteverything lined up the right
way, man.
So I just wanted to say, onceagain, thank you for coming on.
Talk to La Chris.
Big shout out to La Chris.
Good people Love La Chris, yeah, man.

(01:14):
And so when she reached out tome and said I got this brother
here, real positive, might begood to be on the show, or
whatever, I'm like, alright,absolutely.
I looked at you by y'all.
I said, yeah, get the brotheron.
We're going to slide them onhere and let them talk to our
people.
You know what I mean.
You know.
Hopefully we learn somethingfrom one another.
So, listen, you got so much onyour plate, man, on your resume

(01:37):
here with the cinematographyaward-winning cinematographer
producer.
Can you name some of the showsthat you did?
I know you did a lot of thecourtroom shows.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I started off in Hollywood when I left the
military.
I left Iraq and I manifestedgoing to Hollywood.
I was in Alabama I'm an Alabamanative and some of the shows
that I did the first show I didcome home from Iraq was we, the
People, with Gloria Allred.
I was a bailiff, so to comehome as a soldier and then it's

(02:08):
like yo.
I got a security job on TV, myfirst acting gig.
It was a blessing.
And then from there that wasunder the production of Byron
Allen, and Byron is Allen MediaEntertainment Studios is what
it's called.
And Byron, lovely brother, oh,I love Byron.

(02:31):
Byron said he knew I had justcame back from Iraq.
He says, young man, he sayswhat else can I do for you?
I see you're doing good things,how else can I serve you?
I said whoa.
I said for me.
I said, man, I want to do somemore camera and more acting.
He said consider it done.
And it was done.
And then from there he allowedme to be the only I was the only

(02:53):
Black camera operator onsitcoms that he did.
Oh, wow, wow.
So I got to work with VivicaFox, rick Fox, bill Bellamy,
essence Atkins, john WitherspoonOoh, wow, that was the homie.
I've never met anybody soauthentic.

(03:14):
You know he's a comedian, butto be around an individual that
was so himself, like I was athis house, it was just me and
him and he was just the same wayas he would be on TV.
I'll tell you a quick story.
He had a neck brace on and Isaid he had came to set.
It was a sitcom.

(03:34):
And I said, john, what happenedto that?
I said you had a neck brace onwhen you came to set.
I said what was up with that?
He said Ron.
He said what was up with that?
He said Ron.
He said I was talking to myagent and I was trying to put my
pants leg on and he said Ididn't want to let the phone go
and I almost fucked up.
I was like yo and it was justme and him at the table just

(03:56):
talking and he was just soauthentic and it was just a
breath of fresh air to just bearound an authentic individual.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, especially in that space of being in Hollywood
, I reckon you know you don'tmeet too many authentic people.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Plus, he's naturally funny, man.
You know, he's naturally funnyman, anything he does is just a
regular conversation.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's just hilarious.
You know, I was a student justwatching him read the script and
I was a camera just watchinghim read the script and I was a
camera operator and I would belike watching him read and I'm
like, hey, he's doing his lineswrong.
No, he was doing the linesright, he was doing them his way
.
But I was trying to keep up.
I was like, oh, I didn't knowyou could, you could say a line
like that.
And I was like, wow, you know,and so to see him at work in his

(04:43):
mastery and Jackie Harry, youknow, to see her and her, you
know, just perform.
I was like wow, I was watchingand what I was doing?
I was collecting data just totake back home to Alabama to do
my own things.
You've worked on like six ofByron Allen's court shows, stage

(05:08):
managing judges, from JudgeRoss, judge Karen, judge
Christina Perez, judgeMaybelline.
I was behind the scenes stagemanaging.
I never said no to anythingthat was asked of me because I
knew I was learning and I wantedthat knowledge to learn as much
as I could.

(05:29):
So I could, you know, take itback home to the South and build
another empire, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, that's good that he was influential in your
career.
Did you have like prior camerawork experience, or he just put
you out there and said yo golearn it oh.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I was going to film school at the same time.
It was a blessing, okay, at thesame time.
Getting on the job.
He allowed me my firstexperience, my first camera job
to be on a sitcom.
He trusted me.
I was the only Black and sosome of the actors rarely see
Black camera guys, I would thinkbehind the camera, especially

(06:03):
young like I was, and they wouldall come over to the camera and
tease me.
But I was in film school whileI was working for Byron on those
sitcoms Didn't have to startfrom the ground up as a camera
boy, camera assistant, and itwas like it was gifted to me and
I took it as a gift and I saidI'm going to run with this.
It to me and I took it as agift and I said I'm going to run

(06:24):
with this.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's kind of awesome, you know.
Do you think that the militaryhad anything to do with, like
you know, the opportunities thatwere presented to you?
I mean, because you know I wasin the service too, so I don't
know if you've experienced it,but it's almost like some sort
of a glow that you have off ofyou when you come out of the
military.
You know, I don't know if maybeI had it before I went to the

(06:46):
military, but you know what Imean when people just seem like
it just opens up a world ofthings for you.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
You know what the military it does.
I think we already havesomething, but the military
enhances who we already are.
It heightens it and theleadership that when you're in
the military and you're risingthrough the ranks you have to go
to leadership school right.
So in that leadership school,having to do public speaking,

(07:10):
give courses and be in front ofpeople and be heard, I think
that prepped me for that momentwhen I worked with Byron Allen,
because they saw leadershipskills within me.
I went from a camera positionto like a stage manager
overnight, because they saw, andI never said no, I was like

(07:31):
it's a new role.
I know I wanted to do camerabecause that's what I was going
to film school for, forcinematography, and so I was
like I will turn nothing down.
I will graciously andgratefully accept everything.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I will graciously and gratefully accept everything.
So, yes, the military played apivotal, pivotal role in my
success working on televisionsets, because of the discipline
and the leadership that the Armyprovided, plus, I think, the
one thing they instilled in metoo.
I may have had it before I wentthere, but I think you know
definitely after I got out ofthere, it's like the job is
going to get done, no matterwhat happens.
I'm going to you know thereain't going to be no complaining
, we're going to get it doneExactly.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Exactly as the NCO.
It's like we the backbone, sowe do us.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like okay, I'm a problemsolver, Right, Right, yeah, so
you did 17 years and you alsosaid you were 17?
I want to clarify no, no, itwas 17.
But it was 17.
I know people listening.

(08:32):
They're probably, you know,other other Army service members
.
Was he active or was he parttime?
Because he was?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
part time.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Ain't no such thing.
You know what I'm saying?
The weekend warrior.
I was a weekend.
Now I have no shame.
I was a weekend warrior, rightright, right.
But I was still a gangster ofthe army.
I was still a killer.
You know what I'm saying.
You know, I was still trainedto kill at the end of the day.
So what was the question aboutIraq?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well, yeah, I was going to say 17,.
You know 17 years and youclarified that, and you served
in Iraq.
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
2009,.
2010 was my time to go to Iraq.
When I say it was my time, Ivolunteered, I could have not
had, I could not have went, andI chose to go for my own ego
purposes.
There were soldiers who wereyounger than me who came back
from Iraq with war stories andthey were telling other soldiers
, giving them, you know, in casethey go.
They would say, hey, this ishow it is.

(09:39):
And I felt, as an NCO and aspart of the leadership, felt a
little, you know, slight,handedhanded.
I was like, wow.
I was like, well, how come Ieven went?
I don't have any stories, Ican't even talk to younger
soldiers and and tell them hey,be careful when you go over
there, blah, blah, blah.
Whatever the case, give themsome good guidance and so and so
I raised my hand and says youknow what?
I'll go.

(10:00):
It was an opportunity to go.
I would say I want to see whatthis war is about.
Let me see firsthand instead ofhearing it, uh, secondhand from
other people.
You know, and, um, you know,and, and then, when I went, you
know, it was a life, lifechanging experience.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
What are the things that you saw, what are the
things that you experienced thatyou can say like wow, this was
just eyeopening to me this wasjust eye-opening to me.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
It was an interesting landscape.
When you first get there it'salmost like textbook, like
donkey kid, dirty face and ababy on the back.
It was like that.
I was like whoa, this is likepictures I've seen in my history
books.
Right, that was that was.
I was taken back at thatlifestyle.

(10:49):
They didn't have noinfrastructure.
Where we were.
It was basically, it was barren, it was.
There was no plumbing, therewas no, so there was feces,
smell in the air.
So everybody got.
All the soldiers got sick, weall.
For two weeks we had, you know,running bowel movements, you
know loose bowel movements, butit was, that was part of the

(11:09):
infrastructure.
But my job was basically to helprebuild the Iraqi
infrastructure and so I didn'tgo over there to kill most
people.
When I tell I went direct, Ijust think, well, you're on the
front line, was you killing?
Did you have to?
You know, shoot and duck?
Was you on the front line?
Was you killing?
Did you have to shoot and thenduck?

(11:31):
And I have to remind people,everybody, no matter if you're a
nurse, police officer, whetheryou're an engineer, whether you.
They was like it's 150 degrees.
I thought it was the heat fromthe plane because we had landed
in Kuwait and got off the planeand on the tarmac I'm thinking

(11:52):
to myself okay, we've been inthe air for so long, it's the
jet's heat that's putting out,that's making us feel this
extreme temperature.
So the further we walked awayfrom the plane, it remained hot
and the thermometer said 150.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I thought it was broke.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
And I saw it and the NCO came over there and said
what you're looking at at thatthermometer is 150.
It's not broke.
And I was like whoa.
And so by the time I got toIraq it was like 120 every day.
So to adjust to that extremeheat woke me up.
You know, I thought in thebiblical days.

(12:32):
I said that's why they wearturbans the sun would dry them
out, it would dehydrate them.
Honestly.
Oh, that's why they went,that's why they wear the
clothing to keep from beingdehydrated.
So I was like, oh, it wasmaking sense, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Until this day too, like you still see a lot of
people you know in that region.
They wear like long-sleevedshirts.
Right, even when they're here,you know, they got to cover up.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You think it, you know you think you shouldn't,
but you got to cover up in thatyou know, keep your body from
being burnt and stuff like that.
So I guess that's what it is.
But let me ask you this as amentor would you suggest the
military to a young person.
I mean, I know you said itturned out good for you and the
reason why I ask that questionis because I have a thought
process that you know whenpeople ask me about it.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So I wanted to know what your thought process is.
I share my experience and letthem make the decision for
themselves, so that they don'tsay, man, you told me to go, and
so I learned to take theresponsibility off me and tell
them.
I'll share with them.
If you know how to play yourcards, you can utilize the
military to get things that youwant.
If you know what you want outof life, you can get a job in

(13:41):
the military, get a, you know,get a test score that will meet
the requirements of the type ofjob that you want.
And then from there, if youlisten to somebody who's been in
, they can guide you and teachyou how to take advantage of the
opportunities that the militarycan give you.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, the reason why I said that is because you know
I've had friends over the yearswho had children and they said
well, you know, I'm going tosend them to the military to
straighten them out.
I'm like listen man, you know,if your kid got problems, you
know the military, you know,straighten out your problems.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But if you know, if it's minor, and he got a head on
him.
When I went in in 2003, theywere sending a lot of the you
know the youth who were, youknow all the troublemaker youths

(14:34):
.
They'd be getting in front ofthe judge and the judge would
say you got two choices, youngman go to the military, join the
army, or go to jail.
So when I went in, they wascoming in based off you know,
man, I'm just here to avoid jailtime, you know and so.
But now today's army is morestructured.
You have to be intelligent, youhave to be intellectual.

(14:56):
Now you can't have, you haveall these protocols, you can't
have certain tattoos on yourbody and there's all these
restrictions.
And they want your you know,and they want the smartest
nowadays.
And, like you said, a lot ofpeople just send their kids and
thinking that the military isgoing to fix them.
No, If your kid is notdisciplined, the military is not

(15:20):
going to give you a childdisciplined who doesn't have
discipline Right, Because ifthey hate discipline, they're
really going to hit a a childdisciplined who doesn't have
discipline.
Right, you know Right.
Because if they hate discipline, they're really going to hit a
drill sergeant in the face.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
You know, the funny thing about it is, when I was in
the service, what I noticed isthat you know the people that
joined the army to go to jailguys.
They actually turned out prettygood, but the borderline bad
dudes.
That wasn't really bad, butthey were just stupid or
whatever the case may be.
The gangbangers did pretty goodRight.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
They start getting that check every two weeks.
You're like yo, this army checkis good every two weeks.
Yo, this is more.
What do you make on the street?
More than you make on thestreet?
It was consistent.
I got health benefits, dentalbenefits, what?
Start switching up the language.
After that you start.
It was consistent I got healthbenefits, dental benefits.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
What yeah?
Start switching up the languageafter that you start switching
up.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
You're like this is sweet.
Every two weeks, like clockworkFirst and 15th that chick
dropping, and you be like I knowwhere to drop that baby.
It's like time to go to themall and get some sneakers.
Baby, time to go to the stripclub, all right.
So listen.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I want to.
I want to talk about you knowyour consultant company because,
like I said, your life coach.
And let me ask you a question,because a lot of people use that
term life coach, life coach,their life coaches, um, for our
audience, what does a life coachactually do?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know, like we, we , we, some of us know, but just
for for those that don't know,you know, we, some of us know,
but just for those that don'tknow, well, I think everybody
needs the term.
Life coach is subjective, it'sbased on what you want it to be

(17:05):
and how I, how I, choose to lookat it, is that I provide a
service that helps add to yourlife, brings peace and comfort,
and helps have tools to help youminimize your stress level
forever.
Right, if you practice, if youlisten.
So life coaching to me isproviding a surface that adds to
people's lives in a positiveway.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
OK, and I'm glad that you said that, because a lot of
people define it differentlydepending on who you're talking
to, because anybody that's onsocial media is always a coach
in something, but it's like younever know where the credentials
come from.
What makes you qualified totell me this, this and this?
So it was just something I just, you know, thought I'd throw
out there to you.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
No, you should ask that question because I have no
PhD.
I don't have a doctor in frontof my name.
I didn't go to school.
My school was life and mydesire to want to take my
negative experiences and turnthem into positive.
And when I reached out to theuniverse, I cursed God.

(17:59):
When I was in Iraq, when I wason that bridge, when we got hit
by a bomb, and I was like, ifyou're real, I said I need your
presence, I need to know thatyou're real, because right now
you don't look good.
And so I changed based off.
You know, I was going to beanother statistic.
Coming home from Iraq, I wasgoing to commit suicide.

(18:19):
I was going through it.
I was Rambo when I was overthere.
Bullet through vest, I had aBer it.
I was Rambo.
When I was over there,bulletproof vest, I had a
Beretta.
I had an M4.
I had the machine gun thatRambo had, with the bullets feed
out, and I felt invincible.
And it was like going on thebiggest rollercoaster ride and
then say, okay, thank you foryour service.
Oh, why don't you go to school?

(18:40):
Why don't you get a trade?
And it was like I was stilltrying to process everything
that just happened.
I was like, wait a minute, Iwas programmed, I was.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I was like no, you know, it was hard to come home
to readjust, you know so, likeyou said, you were in that
particular situation where yourlife was on the line.
Yeah, spiritually, that put youin a different space, one space
I was here until that boom thathit.
And then it's like, all right,now I gotta change my
perspective on things.
You know what I mean is it?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
it forced me?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
it forced me, yeah, yeah so it's like you got lined
up correctly exactly thoughts ontrack.
You know what I mean exactlywhat I.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
What I learned was that sometimes, through trauma,
the trauma can either break youor make you and I said I'm uh,
I'm not gonna let it break me,so I'm going to turn this
negative, this perceivednegative, into a positive.
And it was me wanting answersto the solutions.
I wanted answers to theproblems that I was having and I

(19:39):
didn't have the solutions.
So I just asked God, my higherself, whatever you want to call
it, whatever you want to say,jesus, muhammad, whomever I
called out, and that call wasanswered and I didn't deny it.
And one thing that I want topoint out to the listeners in
what I did, I basicallyminimized my distractions.

(20:00):
I stopped watching televisionand minimized my distractions so
that I could hear from sourceor whatever type of voice that
needed to come through, apositive, reinforcing voice, one
that would guide me in thedirection that I needed, because
I was in a dark space, thatdark and light energy.

(20:22):
So I was coming from the lightbut had a dark experience and I
was stuck there trying to getback to the light.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Now you say that, but just to backtrack, you had a
life-threatening experience.
Can you walk the audience?
What exactly?
Happened, I know you mentionedthe bomb, but what exactly
happened?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So 10 months.
My tour was 10 months and thewhole 10 months I was doing
infrastructure rebuilding.
That means creating projectswhich required my time in the
community of like in Iraq in the, in the neighborhoods, creating
projects and, um uh, basicallyrebuilding the infrastructure.

(21:04):
So, after almost 10 months, thetour is almost over and every
day we was missing bomb, wewould miss, you know, a bombing
or we would miss an attack, andI was like yo, I was like yo, if
I could just make it.
You know, you know this 10months, you know, wow, you know,
I'm going to do some, some,some like miraculous things.

(21:25):
When I get out, so close to theend of the tour, the last
mission, it was like ironic, whydid it have to be the last
mission?
And I remember getting into mytruck 30 seconds before somebody
else got into my truck.
It was the last seat.
And then we did our briefingsand meetings and it was about

(21:52):
125 degrees, everybody was hot,the AC wasn't working in the
vehicles and it was in April2010.
And we were driving along,going to pick up some
dignitaries and on our way there, I'm just balancing, going

(22:13):
along with the ride and tryingto keep cool and all of a sudden
we hear a boom.
The back truck gets hit by abomb.
We stopped the truck and in all10 months, nothing has happened
to us and we can't believe thatthis is actually happening on
our last mission, and so westopped.
We all get out, we it?

(22:33):
It threw us all off.
It was three vehicles, so weget out running.
Now I'm a paint a picture to theEast and to the West, there's
nothing but desert.
To the to the horizon, there'snothing but desert.
Now we horizon there's nothingbut desert.
Now we got hit on a bridge andthere's this bumpy road In Iraq.
They don't follow, they have nostructure when it comes to

(22:58):
driving, they just drive.
And so to the east and west isdesert, and on this one stretch
road, cars are coming as we arestopping and trying to, you know
, attack this enemy that justhit us with a bomb, and now we
got to check to see if soldiersare alive.

(23:18):
In training, they told us therewas two bombs.
The first bomb is to stop theconvoy.
The second bomb is to kill asmany people, and that's what
they kept drilling.
We watch videos over and over.
So I'm looking for the secondbomb, and so I'm looking around,
I'm exposed, I feel naked, I'mvulnerable, and I got my weapon
ready to engage and ready to die.
My soul is like OK, this is it,this is it, I'm not going back

(23:43):
home, my soul is like OK, thisis it, this is it, I'm not going
back home In Iraq.
And I remember looking in theback of the truck and there was
lifeless bodies which reallymessed me up, you know, and I
was supposed to been back therein that truck the interpreter
you know, you know it wasdecapitated and the other
soldier had a bomb.

(24:03):
It went through his vest andjust to see that and I couldn't
react to it.
And I had another guy up ontothe bridge and they saw wires
connecting and they just startedcutting.

(24:26):
Didn't know cutting them woulddetonate the second bomb.
They didn't know if that wasthe first bomb or they didn't
know.
They just started cutting.
Well, that whole incident had ahuge effect on me because I did
die in Iraq.
My soul was there.
Because I did die in Iraq, mysoul was there and it haunted me

(24:49):
when I came home from Iraq togo back into society and go back
to work and start dating andand and I would be a minister,
society, and I went back intosociety because I was so filled
with anger, resentment.
What could I have done to havemaybe prevented this?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
So was it like a survivor's remorse that you was
going.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It was some a survivor's remorse is what I was
dealing with yeah, you don'thear too many people talk about
that you know, I had um kidneytransplant in 2020 and I think
you know, like those kind of uh,what you say, like near-death
experiences and stuff like that,I think it affects people in
different ways.
For me, you know, it was asituation where it's like, you

(25:29):
know, I could have lost my life.
So I'm saying, well, when Iwoke up the next morning, it's
like, oh, but even when I gotthe first bad news, I had kidney
issues, where it was like nowI'm looking at the world
different.
Like you know, I got to do more.
You know I got to enjoy my lifemore.
I got to enjoy my family more.
I got to pray more.
You know, and it's kind of funnythat you should say that you

(25:52):
know, like, you went to a darkplace.
Like you know, I thinkeverybody deals with things like
that differently.
It's kind of it's kind of it'skind of weird to me, cause we,
like I said, when we get intothose kind of situations, I
think it makes people betterpeople.
You know, at the end of the day, even though you had to go
through a dark place to getthere, like I even see right now
in you and talking to you fromeven from the beginning of the

(26:13):
conversation, like you have thatzest for life.
I got to get it done.
I got to do something, you know, to keep it going.
And I think you know, I thinkthat's something that pulls out
of most people that come throughthose situations.
Do you feel the same way?
I?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
do.
And again, trauma sometimeseither makes you or break you,
and I look at it now is that inorder to get where I am now, I
needed to go through that.
People say do you have anyregrets?
I said no, no regrets, becausethey were lessons.
All the experiences are lessonsand if I didn't get the lesson
out of that, then I would bestill searching and going

(26:46):
through a similar experience towake me up, to push me towards
the light, and the light is allthere is.
That means all things, goodness.
I'm aware of the darkness thatI have and I talk about this
thing called the beast that lieswithin.
The beast is like the darkenergy.
The beast is like brush myshoulder, I'm going to let the
beast out, and when theadrenaline starts flowing, we

(27:08):
Superman for about five to 10minutes and it was like learning
how to control that dark sideof me, learning how to control
the beast.
I was a hothead when I came homefrom Iraq.
I wanted blood, I wanted tofight.
I moved to LA.
I was in traffic, I was justspazzing out.
I was like dude, chill out andtrying to balance the dark and
the light that is within me.

(27:29):
I am all things.
I look at myself.
If I'm part of the creator andthe creator is everything, then
I'm all things as well, and so,therefore, I am darkness and I
am light.
I need to control my darknessand operate from the light, and
you know, if somebody break intomy house, I turn the darkness
on.
I match the energy.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
This is a part of you that's not completely gone yet
It'll never leave.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I just have to be a manager, a supervisor, I have to
be an owner of that beast thatsits in a cage that doesn't have
a lock, that at any givenmoment, when it comes out, the
adrenaline flows like IncredibleHulk.
Incredible Hulk is basicallythe story of humans when they're
angry, the adrenaline startsflowing and they can do

(28:18):
superhuman things punch holes ina wall, you know, or just lift
things that they normallycouldn't lift when the
adrenaline is not activated.
And so when the Incredible Hulkis tearing up things and he's
mad and he comes off theadrenaline, as David Banner, he
feels so bad.
And that's every human, everyhuman when they react in that

(28:41):
dark side, that beast that'sready to come out and say say
something smart, say somethingsmart.
And it was like, you know, Ihad to learn how to control the
dark side, because I felt like Ihad reached that dark side in
Iraq and and just dealing withit and just being present you
know, yeah, and even in that, Iguess, when you came back from

(29:03):
iraq and you have, you know,like you say, that that darkness
seeing you, that it affects thepeople around you, you know I
mean and yes people near youpushes them away, you know, I
mean, because they don'tunderstand what's going on with
you and, and to be quite honestwith you, some of us just don't
want to take that negativity onfrom anybody, you know, I mean
you want to incorporate in whatyou have.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
So what was the things that you did to kind of
bring yourself out of that?
What was the goal moment onthat one?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, what I did?
I listened to my inner self.
I had to practice listening tomyself, as long as my intuition
and my thoughts wasn't tellingme to go kill nobody.
It's like go to Hollywood Nowthat you've left Iraq.
Go to Hollywood, that's whatyou should do.
You should go and be an actor,try that out.

(29:50):
You almost died, you almostdidn't make it, so why not?
So it was that push really.
But I was so torn because I'mfrom Alabama my mother just had
I was the second of her sonsthat went to Iraq.
So it was like I had one sonthat survived.
Now another son came home, hesurvived, and now you're going

(30:11):
to California.
My mother had never really beenout of the States.
So it was like like California,what are you doing?
And she was yelling at me andout of anger and out of
frustration and out of confusionand out of her.
Her youngest son is now, youknow, almost lost him in Iraq
and now he's going to California.
But so I was like Pinocchio.

(30:32):
I said I don't have strings onme.
I had no children, not married.
I was like what stopped me fromgoing to LA and pursuing my
passion?
I was like nothing.
And it took a lot of effort andI finally made that move and
never looked back and makingthat Right.
I was like nothing and it tooka lot of effort and I finally
made that move and never lookedback and making that move.
What drove me out there thecarrot that drove me out there

(30:53):
was acting and entertainment andgoing to film school.
What I discovered was I was outthere to do some
self-development, to work onmyself, to push me towards the
light.
I was like, oh, now, when I'msitting in my apartment,
november 2013, I got laid offfrom the entertainment job I was

(31:14):
working at and November 2013,I'm landing floor of my
apartment, no television, justlistening to my inner thoughts,
just really wanting higherknowledge and just really wanted
solutions to my problems.
And I said man I got six to ninemonths to just ride this
unemployment out.
I was like, wow, I could liveoff this, you know.
I was like, ooh, this is sweetman, I'm about to hibernate, you

(31:36):
know.
And as I was laying in myapartment thinking about
hibernating and just doingnothing for six to nine months,
a voice came through.
Now there was no TV on, there'sno distraction.
I minimized all distractions sothat I could think clearly.
And a voice came through and itsaid if you don't take this

(31:56):
time out to do someself-development, shame on you.
And it was loving, it wascompassionate, it was caring,
but it was almost like a sternteacher.
And I opened my eyes.
I was like I heard that and Ididn't question it.
It wasn't no negative stuff.
It just said, if you don't takethis time out, that you have to
yourself to do someself-development, shame on you.

(32:19):
And it almost chastised me.
Why would you sleep when youcould be doing the work?
I put my foot on the gas at thatmoment and never took my foot
off, and what I developed was amethod to live life very simply,
and that method is basicallywhat people already know.
I had to learn how to lovemyself unconditionally over

(32:41):
again and realize that I wasoperating on conditional love.
The polar opposite ofunconditional is conditional.
We put conditions on our love.
Sometimes I learned that frommy environment, whether family,
social environment, at school,church, just being out in the
public.
I learned I watched how peopleconditionally love themselves,

(33:05):
television and movies, and so Irelearned how to unconditionally
love myself over and over,through repetition, repetition,
reposition, like a computerreprogramming my mind,
redownloading new software tooperate on.
The second one was no judgmentof any kind.
I said, dude, stop judgingyourself about Iraq, stop

(33:27):
judging yourself about your past.
You know, like childhood,unresolved issues.
Stop judging yourself.
You know, have no judgment ofany kind.
Third one was forgiveness.
I had to practice forgiveness,repetition over and over.
Forgive yourself, forgiveyourself for the past, forgive
your parents.
They know not what they wasdoing.
They did the best they could.
You have expectations that theydon't even know, they can't

(33:49):
even meet them.
The expectation, unspokenexpectation, that I had of my
parents they didn't know it, butI had this judgment, this anger
towards them, and they had noclue of my expectation.
I was doing it to myself.
So the moment I startpracticing unconditional love to

(34:09):
myself, at every moment, nojudgment of any kind to myself
at every moment, and forgivenessand minimizing negative
expectations that would cause meto have disappointments in life
.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Say that again, brother.
Say that again brother.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
That's it right there , Say it again brother,
minimizing negative expectationsso that I don't experience
extreme disappointments in life.
So what I had to do wasminimize expectations of myself
that I should be.
You know I would.
I would ridicule myself.
I would say, man, you becreating all these projects, but

(34:45):
you don't never finish with me.
I mean, you create a hundredprojects and I would talk down
to myself, man, you ain'tnothing.
And I stopped doing that.
I stopped doing that because Iwas speaking life, I was casting
a spell on myself and didn'tknow it.
And I said if you love you, ifyou love yourself
unconditionally, why would youtreat yourself that way?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, my only thing I would add to that is get rid of
negative people.
Well, as much as you can,because you got some people that
you know, like we got familymembers that we just you tell
the family.
You stuck to them, man, you gotto ride with them.
You know what I mean, and asmuch as well.
Let me change that, because youknow, the older I get now it's
like wait a minute, I'm going toride with you, but I'm going to

(35:26):
put you here for a second.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Exactly.
There's nothing wrong withtaking a break from family
members who can be toxic, whoare not willing to do the work
on themselves, who are notwilling to take responsibility
for their actions.
I grew up blaming the devil inthe South.
Blame the devil.
Tell the truth, Blame the devil.

(35:48):
Blame the devil.
Devil made me do it.
Devil made me do it.
Devil keep making me do things.
That takes the responsibilityaway from you.
So it's like I had to reprogrammyself.
I says no, you can't blame nodevil.
You can't blame nobody else.
Take responsibility.
What are you doing to fixwhatever is bothering you?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
It's just certain things that you it was in you to
do it.
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
mean, we're a rare breed man Because there's a lot
of people walking around thisearth, man, and it's just like
man.
You just don't want to fix thesituation that you're in, Like
you're just going to, you'regoing to stay there, you know,
and I don't understand that.
You know what I mean and Idon't think I've ever been like
that.
But even the older I get, I'meven more like you know't want

(36:34):
the knowledge, you don't want tochange.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's fine.
I have family members thatdon't want to change and I try
to help them.
Put the crown on top of theirhead Like I.
Just I feel good about myself.
I have, I have answers to havesolutions to problems that arise
in my life and and I'm notstressed, because I understand
what stress does.

(36:59):
Stress turns into a physicalsickness and that's not my
objective to make myself sick,to get physically sick.
The headache, the migraine, thethought, a thought of anger
about something, holding anexpectation and being extremely
disappointed.
Now I got a headache.
The headache turns to aphysical sickness and now you

(37:20):
know you're calling out for it.
Now your immune system is weak,now it leaves room for any type
of attack, for viruses oranything to come into your life,
and now you're just like woe isme.
And so I know the causes andthe effects of thinking negative
.
I just don't do it.
So I say, hey, you know Idiscovered something.

(37:40):
You know y'all got free will.
I'm never going to force myselfon you.
You know if you listen, youlisten, you don't.
I'm going to keep pushing thismessage.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
As a life coach.
When you see you know peoplecome in, come into you for help,
right?
You ever look at somebody likeI can't help him, man, it's
nothing I can do for him man.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
It's nothing I could do for him.
There are some people.
I basically tell them the truth.
I say basically, the intuitionand the discernment tells me
that they don't want to change.
And I'll verbalize, I'll say,hey, you don't want to change,
but when you're ready to change,they say when a student is
ready, a teacher will come.
So when you're ready, a teacherwill come, whether it's me or
somebody else.
So I don't worry about peoplewho are not ready, who say they

(38:23):
want the help, because I couldsmell and I could tell if they
really desire the help.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It's a real like I said, it's a real group because
I'll give you an example Like Iwork with some young people,
right, I'll give you an example.
Like I work with some youngpeople, right, and you know, as
an older person now I can sayyou know, listen, this is what I
did financially to get myselfon track stocks.
You know, show them how to workthe 401k or whatever like that,
and you could be speaking to agroup of all of them and it's

(38:55):
one person that the light goesoff on and you know she's like
yo, listen, show me how to startthis account, help me or
whatever like that, and you cansee the light on.
So I wonder, like I said,that's why I asked that question
in regards to a life coach,because when people come in, you
can automatically look at aperson and be like, oh, this
person wants to get out of thatsituation, they want to be
better.
So have you ever seen anybodythat you thought were negative

(39:17):
overcome?
You know some of the some ofthe affairs and you know some of
the things that they werecontinuously doing wrong.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
An example of my nephew.
My nephew is 22 years old, oneof my nephews I have like 13, 15
nieces and nephews and one ofmy nephews is 22.
And I didn't think that he hadthe ability to listen.
I thought he was too young toabsorb because he was always on
this video game and he would beheck listening.

(39:45):
And he was one of my firstclients that I worked on since
he was 14.
I wanted this young black kingto have knowledge and I started
with him very young and I wasfrom Los Angeles, calling him to
Alabama, making sure that I wasfeeding him knowledge.
And I started with him veryyoung and I was from Los Angeles
, calling him to Alabama, makingsure that I was feeding him
knowledge but making sure that Iwas not infringing on his free

(40:08):
will to choose.
And so he was one that Ithought that I wasn't, that, I
couldn't, that I didn't think hewould get it, I thought it was
too advanced for him.
I couldn't, I didn't think hewould get it, I thought it was
too advanced for him.
But it was through the power ofrepetition.
It's repeating things over andover.
We said, oh, I said that.
No, it's repeating it becausewhen we first learned how to

(40:31):
drive.
We had to drive 100 timesbefore it became unconscious.
When we just get in the car, wejust drive from point A to point
B and forget how we got there.
So I use a method of repetition.
But he was an example that wasjust in the streets, you know,
real young, you know, wanted tobe part of the gang life, and he

(40:53):
was just, you know, justrunning rampant and just didn't
care.
But I was able to instill, Iknew that, the knowledge that I
was sharing with him.
His spirit knows truth, nomatter how young he was.
So I was speaking to his spirit, not his physical mind, and I
knew that, through repetition,had I just keep talking to him,

(41:17):
that he would go out into theworld and subconsciously it
would be sitting in the back ofhis brain.
And then it and it happened oneday.
He called me one day.
He says oh, you know theknowledge you was getting, he's
like it actually worked.
I was like, oh, he's like man,I want to thank you man, right,
Right, you know.
And um and I here's a quickstory from that Um he called me

(41:38):
one day when I was in LosAngeles and he says oh, he says,
man, my ex-girlfriend justbroke up with me and she left
her coat over here and shecoming over here with her new
guy.
He said, man, she come overhere.
I swear both of them going toget chopped down.
He said I swear.
I was like, oh.
I said okay.
I says, well, you know, takeresponsibility for your actions.

(41:58):
He says, man, you ain't goingto get mad if I go to prison,
like if I go to jail?
I said no, that sounds like aconscious choice for you to hurt
somebody.
And I said if you do do that,just make sure that you're open
to the effects from your cause.
I said you do not own her.
She's not your property.

(42:18):
I said you're young.
There'll be many women that youcome in contact with that
you're going to be learning from.
They don't belong to you.
I said because we come from asociety to where a man looks at
a woman yeah, you, my woman, Iown you.
Like if I spend time with youand you leave me, you taking my

(42:40):
love, the love that I gave toyou all the time and energy and
money that I spent, now we'reready for violence.
So I was teaching him how tolove in a different way.
That was unconditional.
I says give her an opportunityto see what kind of guy she
wants.
You're just a stop along theway.
You guys are young.
She may have 17 different guys.
She may have 17 different guys.

(43:01):
She may have five.
I said but give her anopportunity to be with a guy
that she thinks is good for herand let her lawnmower pass.
That's unconditional love.
And he accepted it.
And he called me two weeks later.
I said, man, you got the wrongfriends.
I said your friend is going tolead you to prison.
And he called me two weekslater.
He said I got rid of thosefriends.

(43:22):
Yeah, I was like you.
You did.
I was.
I was shocked to hear him sayhey, I got rid of those friends.
I thank you for the advice, man.
It saved me he got a.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
He got a blessing all the way around.
He got rid of the friends andthe girl man so you know, I told
him, man, that's the best thingthat ever happened to you,
brother yes, that's the bestthing, your best thing.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
You know, uncle, mentor life coach.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Hey, listen, I mean I actually had another question
in my head, but since you saidthis, we're going to pivot over
to this one.
How do we actually apply thatto our kids out here?
I know you do your mentoringthing and all you have your.
You know people come to you butit's like, do you take that and
you say, let me get these groupof black kids right here, or
these group of kids don'tnecessarily have to be black,

(44:05):
because a lot of them, a lot ofpeople, go through different
things, but our people catch itthe most.
I'm gonna be honest.
So what it is is like how do weget a lot of the youth out of
that dark mind state thatthey're in?
And when I say it's dark, it'sbecause darkness is pushed upon
them constantly, whether it bethrough, you know, music, movies
, things that they see.
Their so-called heroes thesedays have dark mentalities and

(44:28):
it's like this is the stuff thatthey ingest in and this is the
things that's probably moreinfluential to them than you
know.
Unfortunately, their parentswould be, or their uncles would
be, or anything like that.
So what, what would you do inthat situation?
If you're not doing it, do youhave something tailored towards
like gathering these guys up andjust telling them the truth.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Well, everybody needs entertainment, most people need
entertainment, so I provide, Ibring the light.
It's the law of balance, thelaw of polarity.
So if they're in darkness, Ijust add more light and
understanding and educationbecause, again, their spirit
knows the truth when they hearit.
If I'm speaking truth, all Ihave to do is consistently.

(45:09):
It needs to be consistent,having these group meetings to
where they see the consistency,the cycle I have to create a
cycle to where they see thatTuesday at 7 o'clock I'll be
talking about how to live astress-free life, how to
minimize stress in your life,and I think it's through
consistency and throughrepetition and through

(45:32):
entertainment.
You take what they'reentertaining, you find out what
they're.
I like the Jesus parable.
Jesus used parables, right.
Jesus used parables right.
He took parables stories andincorporated the message into
the story, and so that's thetech that I use.
I like to entertain and while Ientertain through my filmmaking,
everybody want to be in frontof the camera, right, everybody.

(45:54):
Everybody want to be.
You know, part of theentertainment movies and
everybody's creative.
They just don't know how toexpress it.
So I help those young men byasking them what do they want to
do?
By not having no judgment,unconditional love and listening
to them about what theirproblem was ailing them, right,

(46:15):
because they can't really learnnew information if they can't,
if I don't give them the toolsto solve the problems at home
and say, hey, the problem thatyou're dealing with at home is
on the temporary.
Here's what I'm going to sharewith you, because sometimes we
as children, we become sometimesguidance for our parents.
You know, sometimes we become,sometimes we become the healers

(46:35):
to heal our parents.
Yeah, definitely.
And so I teach kids basicallyhow to basically take a
situation without infringingagain upon their free will to
choose.
I just share knowledge.
That's truth.
That sounds like truth, right,and it is truth.
That's truth to their spirit,because spirit knows truth.
And I exemplify light.

(46:56):
So great because greatness willget mimicked.
Michael Jordan, everybody's,you know, shooting fadeaways,
tongue out.
You know Right, right, you knowanybody.
Michael Jackson, everybody'sdoing.
If anything, I do great, wehave to do it great and with
intention.
The kids will see that and theywill want to mimic that
greatness that's in front ofthem.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Right, because I look at it and I see like a lot of
the violence and things that yousee that's in front of them.
Right, because I look at it andI see like a lot of the
violence and things that you seethat's going on amongst the
youth is because of lack ofproblem solving skills, lack of
coping skills.
You know things of that natureand it's like you would.
You're not going to get it inschool.
You're not going to learn thesetactics in school because a lot
of your educators are not fromwhere you are and can't meet you

(47:39):
where you are.
So that's what kind of sparkedme to say that it's like you
have this, you know your cousinsalton farm, and it's like you
know I'm quite sure you dothings within the community to
to help these guys.
Because I was.
I was listening to a radio showone time where one of the you
know older, you know elders weresaying the problem with us as
we get older is that kids havebecome, have gotten to the point

(48:01):
where the, the elders areafraid to talk to them, you know
, or are kind of reluctant totalk to them, based upon the
reactions that they will getfrom them.
I mean, we live in a societywhere people are beating up
elders just for saying hey, youknow, pull your pants up, you
know I mean.
So it's like we're kind ofgetting to that point where it's
like you're afraid to kind ofshow them something.

(48:22):
Because of that, I mean, fromnow on you're withholding
knowledge from them.
You understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Also too.
I think the other issue is thatwe become I think these kids
are becoming desensitized man.
You know what I mean, becausetheir entertainment diet is
trash man.
You know, like you was justtalking about entertainment
before and I was going to askyou about, you know, is there
anything that you have plannedin the works in the future?
You know, working with or doyou see going on in Hollywood
now to make a change?
Because when it comes toAfrican Americans man, our

(48:49):
entertainment diet is trash,from the music, from the movies.
You know what I mean and it'ssad to say because you know, I
know there's a um, it's a toughtime because for you guys,
because our people like trash,you know, I hate to say it, you
know a lot of our people liketrash you know I mean so it's
kind of hard to make money andget that balance.

(49:11):
And you know I mean like and beand be cool everybody want to be
cool, right, right.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
So I call myself a spiritual gangster, spiritual
gang star.
So it sounds cool, so it makesme look cool.
It's cool to be in the light,it's cool to have the knowledge.
Hey, I tell people, hey, youcan go to the dark.
And going back to the adults,the adults are afraid to talk to
the kids because theythemselves are not healed.

(49:40):
I have no fear talking to achild that claim he a thug.
You can't be on park time too,park time and live a long life
If you live this long you ain'tthat bad, you ain't that hard.
You ain't out there terrorizingthe neighborhood For real.
But that park energy you're,you gonna get dealt with really

(50:00):
quick yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I think you know the nuts out the gate.
Like you just said, your nephew, when he called you and made
that call, that's really a callfor help.
It ain't really like I'm gonnado it Because people that are
about that are gonna just do ithe wants you to tell him don't
do it Right.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
He wanted me to talk him off the ledge and I read
through it, right, and I didn't.
I was like, hey, if that's whatyou want to do, that's a
decision you want to make, right.
You ain't even get mad at me.
I'm like, no, that's yourdecision.
You want to go to prison?
Hey, go ahead.
I'm not going to stop you.
If that's the decision, you gotfree will.
I'm not going to talk you offthe ledge.
Right, go ahead and jump, goahead and jump and you knew he

(50:40):
didn't want to jump.

Speaker 1 (50:41):

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I knew he didn't want to jump, but it had to be okay
if he did jump.
That's a spiritual and somepeople may be like, wow, that's
cold-blooded, that's anarcissist.
Think only about yourself.
No, well, I say I'm a walkingcontradiction, I'm everything,
I'm all walking contradiction.
I'm everything, I'm all things,I'm all things, I'm who, I, who
I need to be at any givenmoment.
But I knew at that moment in myintuition, my discernment, that

(51:04):
he did not want to, uh, jumpoff the ledge.
He wouldn't be on the phonetalking to me about what he was
going to do, he would have justdone it yeah, and we're coming
from.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know we come from the hood.
So, um, we know, right off theback, you know if you really
mean it or not.
You know, know what I?
Mean Go ahead and jump Give ita shot.
See what?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
happens Exactly.
But he was looking for sympathy.
He went oh nephew, man, don'tdo that.
Man, you're going to go toprison.
I love you, man.
That's what he wanted.
He wanted the sympathy.
I gave him tough love.
I was like if that's what youwant to do, but it saved his
life.
He called me and thanked me.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
I tell kids all the time and sometimes parents, some
people you might need to go tojail you might need to go to
jail.
I've seen it work out forpeople.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
When you came out.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
You're like I don't want to go back there, no more.
You might need to go.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
You can go one of two ways.
But yeah, that's how it works.
Take your route, take yourroute.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, Take your route .
In this life, in this Infiniteroute, there's no limit to what
type of route you can take toget to the light.
Everybody got to get to thelight, the light it's already
said the light wins anyway.
So why even entertain thedarkness?
I know the dark, I know I havedarkness.

(52:29):
I know I could tear up a room.
I know my stature.
You know when I walk into aroom, you know, I know what I'm
capable of.
But I don't have that intention.
I control the beast that iswithin me.
I'm the owner of that beastthat darks out of me.
And I tell that beast hey, I'myour owner, you stay in the cage
.

(52:50):
Here's a quick story with mynephew.
I love talking about my nephewbecause he's very dear, near and
dear to my heart and he'sprobably one of the students
that I have that's really honedin, like a changed young man,
right Going from street to justlike, really being just who he
is today as a respectable youngman that's looking for light.

(53:10):
But also he has a balance ofdark and light within him.
So there was a moment in timeto when I moved from Los Angeles
back to Alabama during COVID,my nephew, I could tell, had not
had the best experiences athome with family members and
friends.
I could tell that I could justdiscern that Me coming in all
nice and loving and yes, nephew,what do you want?

(53:33):
And feeding him knowledge in avery calm way.
I wasn't yelling at him and hewould ask me several questions.
Sometimes he'd be redundant andI would just continue answering
the questions from a place oflove, knowing that the
repetition he needs to hear it.
So in order for it to click,Well, I was showing him

(53:54):
something.
I handed him a piece of paperand when he took that piece of
paper he snatched it out of myhand and the beast said let me
out, Grab him through the window, Break it, Draw blood.
Oh yeah, it's showtime.
And then, for a split second,and I said if I do that, if I
exemplify a violent act, it'sshowing him he's looking up to
me.
He's going to say well, inorder to solve problems, you got

(54:18):
to use violence.
My uncle did it to me and Ilook up to him.
So for a split second I said tomyself nope, we're not going to
use violence, we're going touse intellect.
Take the knowledge away fromthem.
You've already been feeding him.
He's around you because heknows it works.
So just take it, take yourpresence away.
And I was able to call down thatbeast that wanted to just say,

(54:40):
hey, yeah, you want to go at it.
And so what I did was in ananosecond.
It says nope, you teach him anintellect, solve problems
intellectually.
So I says nephew.
I says you jerked that out ofmy hand.
I said that was a form ofdisrespect for my book.
I says now, I said I could beon high and by turn with you in

(55:04):
this city.
I says, and I won't feel notype of way, Trust me, you're
the one need the knowledge and Idrove off.
Five minutes later he's callingback hey, I think I did it on
purpose and I apologize, man.
I said I want you to go in thecity and see who's giving you
the knowledge that I'm sharingwith you.
I'm putting a crown on top ofyour head.

(55:25):
I got this knowledge at 30, inmy 30s, and I said I'm giving it
to you.
You've been, I've been trainingyou since 14.
You're going to be a powerhouse, right?
I didn't tell you that, butthis is how I'm planning to see
into the world.
And he goes out into the worldand he's shining quietly, you
know, and so he's affectingother people.

(55:46):
But when he called andapologized, I accepted his
apology quick, but it was inthat split second.
So the moral of the story isthat I was able to control the
beast, that dark side within me,and use intellect, Because, as
Black men, every time we, youknow, solve problems most of the
time it's with violence andthat beast comes out, that beast
don't have an owner, thatadrenaline is flowing, the beast

(56:10):
want to come out and the beastwant to wreak havoc for about
five, 10 minutes, and after thatadrenaline flow calms down.
We, like I did, what.
I tore that up Like, wow, whatis wrong with?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
me If you get the chance to even say that.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
If you get the chance .
If you get the chance, if youlive through it, if you live
through it, you can say wow.
You always have regrets.
I didn't want to yell like that.
I don't want to be that beast.
That's an ugly beast that comesout Right, right, and so I was
able to exemplify peace andorder within me and bring

(56:46):
balance and says no, don't dothat, because then he's going to
continue solving problems withviolence.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Well, you know, and also too, it's like it's funny
to say that is that he saw yourpower when you didn't react that
way.
Because you know, growing up upyou know violence is just a
natural thing that we understand.
But you know, even in the hood,you know, we knew that.
You know, you know we saw powerwhen somebody said yeah, listen
, I'm gonna let you slide.
You know, I mean, I'm gonnagive you a pass right now.
You know, I mean, and I couldreally hurt you.
It's just like kind of likeeven watch moving the godfather
that portion where he's in theroom and all of the people are
talking about killing his sonand he says I'm just doing this

(57:24):
because of my son right now, butif something happened to my son
I'm going to blame some of thepeople in this room.
And that's not what I'm going toforgive right now.
So when he says that, it's likethe coldest thing in the movie
because he's like I could reactand wild out right now.
But right now, but right nowI'm looking for peace and you
know it's hard.
You know, like you said, Ithink the most power that you

(57:45):
can show is that when you holdback yourself.
You know what I mean and, likeyou said, you didn't show any
weakness to him because you'retelling him also too, like
listen, you know I can'tremember exactly how you said it
, but in your way of talking yousaid like listen, I could, I
could flex on you right now, butI'm going to just leave you

(58:06):
alone right now and also I'mjust letting you know I love you
because I give you thisinformation, you know.
But I don't have to do that.
You know what I mean and Istepped off, you know.
So in his mind he thinking dang, you know I could have went
left with me just now.
You know what I mean and youknow he chose strength.
You know what I mean and that'ssomething that even in my life
has stuck with me over years,that I saw older gentlemen in my

(58:26):
family doing that because Irecognize, you know I could be
objective.
I could fall back and not showweakness and you know stuff.
You know what I mean, so Ithink you did a good thing with
that.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You know what I mean it's exemplifying the light.
If I'm going to talk about thelight, I need to practice what I
preach.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
And he's going to do that to somebody Exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
And then somebody is going to do it to you know, and
it's going to get passed on.
I knew I was planting a seedRight.
I was planting a seed thatwould be inside of him, that he
would remember that action thatI gave him, that I solved it,
learned, teaching her how to use.
He saw it in action, becausemost black people we like to see
it.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Don't tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Show me.
They say actions speak louderthan words.
I showed him my actions of whatit looked like and what it felt
like to have nobody yell at youand to give you the same energy
snatching something out of it.
If you snatch anything out ofsomebody's hand, especially
black, a black male, oh,bloodshed is about to come.
That's the causes and the effect, going straight to zero, right.

(59:34):
And so I teach young black menhow to be more intellectual.
It's expected that we go zeroto 100 with violence, that's a
given.
Grandmama can pull the trigger,but the most powerful thing is
to use your words, use your mind, use light, use love and see

(59:54):
the pain within him and see thegame that he was playing.
Because I looked at that moment, he was my teacher and my
student all in the same breath.
I was like, oh, he's my teachershowing me.
Am I practicing the knowledgethat I'm sharing with him?

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Am I practicing peace , all right.
So listen, man, in our finalmoments together, I want to just
ask you what do you have on thehorizon in terms of you?
Still, you know,cinematographer, award winning
producer, and it's just like mybrother was saying like with all
of the negativity and thingsthat you see our people is being

(01:00:30):
forced upon within Hollywood?
You know what I mean, what,what, what projects are you
working on and is there a waythat you're using, you know,
know, that voice of yours inthat area to kind of combat, you
know, showing us in a negativelight?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
yes, um, yeah, I, I look to do some sitcoms and in
in those sitcoms I am placed inthe food, uh, the nourishment of
unconditional love into eachmessage and no judgment and
forgiveness, so eat.
So implanting the message intomy art is now my life's calling

(01:01:07):
and everything that I do, uh,I'm gonna, I'm doing more
speaking engagements so that I,that I interact with a larger
audience, so that, especiallyour young black men, that we
wake up and to and that that we,like I'm going to show people I
want to share my, my kingshipwith young black men.
So if you're around somebody'senergy, that is energized, you

(01:01:30):
too get energized.
So I've been, so I'm working onbuilding my YouTube channel and
as a filmmaker, like, likegoing to film school, I get, I
get into my perfectionist state.
You know it's gotta be this way.
How, why would they do?
This hit home to me and I waslike now is the time to really

(01:02:02):
get out there and really, uh,make the audience a lot bigger
within the uh, except for the um, with the exception of the
small audience that I've beendealing with.
Uh, but I'm, I'm putting myselfout there more.
I'm a publicist, but chris ishelping me with those plans of
really you know groundbreakingevents that I'm going to be

(01:02:27):
doing in the future conferences,basically teaching people how
to love themselves in a fun waythat really puts the power back
into their hands.
And my objective is to reallyget our Black males really to be
empowered and take thisknowledge and use it for
themselves and see for and justuse it.

(01:02:48):
You know, unconditional love toyourself, practice over and over
no judgment of any kind, overand over Forgiveness, over and
over and over, until it becomesrepetitious.
Do it a hundred times.
It becomes innate.
Do it back to back, do it backto back, do it back to back, do
it back to back and do it backto back.
You speed up the process ofyour learning and just continue

(01:03:11):
doing it forever until youbecome on autopilot.
So a lot of projects that I'mworking on.
I've got puppets.
I got a puppet show that I'mgoing to be doing for kids,
incorporating the message ofunconditional love, no judgment
and forgiveness into the puppetthat I have.
It looks like a Sesame Streetcharacter.

(01:03:32):
I spent a lot of money fromLondon and I was like I'm going
to put seeds into the children.
I'm going to plant seeds intothe children so when they get
older and become adults, theywill remember this unconditional
love.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, man, because
it's funny to say that just thepuppet thing, I mean that's
definitely a good way of going.
But as a kid, even in our world, coming up in Brooklyn, we had
so much entertainment that waspositive and it kept these
certain messages in your head,don't, you know, like watching
Good Times and Fat Albert andyou know stuff like that?

(01:04:06):
These are things you know.
I think they stuck in my head.
You know you can't hurt oldpeople, you can't.
You know certain things thatwas just, you know, just stuck
in our head constantly orpushing our head constantly.
I mean, you got something goodout of it, george Jefferson.
What's happening All of this?

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
stuff.
Knowing it's half the battle.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
We ain't home Break dancing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
I don't see that in our entertainment, no more.
I think that's the thing thatwe're missing.
People talk bad about thesechildren now.
But's the thing that we'remissing?
You know what I mean, and youknow.
People talk bad about thesechildren now, you know.
But the problem is is thatwe're not giving them anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Exactly.
And not only that are weinfluenced by the society, but
we're also influenced by moviemaking, watching movies, right,
right, we watch.
How to?
I didn't know anything aboutturning the gun 45 degree um, at
a 45 degree angle, right?
I think that was from boys inthe hood, right?
Yeah, yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
that's about every movie in the 90s actually
exactly, you can pick it up,yeah, right so so that movie
making seeps into the brains,unconsciously into our
environments?
it's funny you mentioned that,bro, because I was telling my
daughter this I mean you know weall from that era man, and so
you know these kids arerediscovering.
You know these movies that weused to watch and you know she

(01:05:29):
was telling me I think she waswatching like Don't Be a Menace
or whatever, something of thatnature.
And I said, did you ever noticein all of movies in the 90s
that anytime some black man wasmaking it out the hood or going
to college, they ended up dyingviolently?
And it was like what was themessage?

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Psychologically it would makeblack people go.
You know, hey, I ain't gonnamake it.
I may become successful, but Iain't gonna be out of here.
So it's basically taking theblack male out of the home
quickly.
Sometimes you could be doingsubliminal psychology.
When I was in film school Icoined this phrase.
I said man.
I said I'm a movieologist.

(01:06:06):
I got the ability to makesomebody cry in an instant, make
somebody laugh at this cue andif it's good enough, they're
going to laugh.
I can make somebody think I waslike oh, I can manipulate
people's emotions and I couldmake them think I said I'm a
movieologist.
I said, and then, when I becameconscious, I says you can no

(01:06:28):
longer make violent movies.
You can, but the causes and thefacts are huge.
Are you contributing to thedownfall of your community and
so the people that's watchingyour content, or are you going
to be a conscious creator andcreate with love and light and
incorporate beautiful messages?
Now, make it.
Make the content cool andentertaining.

(01:06:49):
But yeah, you can make lovingyourself be cool.
Brain balance to the uncool andto the cool.
Yeah, like that law of polarity.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Yeah, and you can.
You can yourself be cool.
Brain balance to the uncool andto the cool.
Let them all play.
Yeah, and you can.
I think a lot of our filmmakersnow probably need to look
within themselves and say, youknow, I could change this world.
I could change, especially forour people.
I could change this world, andI use Bill Cosby as an example.
I mean, nobody wants to talkabout Bill Cosby or nothing like
that now, but the reality of itall is, the first time I saw a

(01:07:18):
different world, I was like man,that's how black college is
like.
You know what I mean, everybodywanted to go to black college.
Then you know what I mean.
I think even I think there wasa statistic that says, like,
right after a different worldhas showed, like you know the,
what is it the enrollment for?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
you know, enrollment went up crazy for people going
to At HBCUs.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Right, right.
So I mean, I think, a lot ofthe people that just don't do
what the status quo tells you todo, man, Step it to the next
level and try to do somethingthat empower people.
Man, empower people.
And I ain't got no racist bonein my body, man.
I like black, hispanic, white,whatever the case may be, but

(01:07:59):
for our people, man, we just so.
Yes, I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
We're behind, but that's okay, we don't get caught
up, because my mission is toreally catch us up mentally,
because we have that mentalblockage.
We're stuck in the past andwe're stuck in trying to catch
up with white people, with money, and it's like we don't want to
see.
I want to see what having anice house feels like.
I want to see what having amillion dollars feels like.

(01:08:25):
I want to see what owning abusiness and being able to
travel when you want to travelfeels like right.
So until we get that out of oursystem not saying that we'll
ever get it out of our system,but what I'm saying is bringing
balance to everything and really, like Michael Jackson said, we
got to start with the man in themirror.
Are you loving yourself the waythat you need to be loving

(01:08:47):
yourself?
That's positive.
And you know how you treatyourself is how you treat others
.
It's the golden rule Treatothers how you.
You treat yourself is how youtreat others.
It's the golden rule Treatothers how you would treat
yourself.
But the question is how are you,as an individual, treating
yourself?
Because if you're treatingyourself with conditional love,
guess what I'm going to treatyou with conditional love If I'm

(01:09:08):
treating you with judgment.
Guess what If I treat myselfwith judgment?
Guess how I'm going to treatyou.
I'm going to judge you.
I'm going to invalidateeverything that you do.
I'm always having an argument.
I'm always being a headache.
Every time you see me, I'll hitthis guy.
Go right, it's all in themethod.

(01:09:30):
Forgiveness, it's all in themethod.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
You put it all into your work.
Let me ask you, brother, areyou still in contact with Byron
Allen?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yes, I am Indirectly.
Yeah, I am, but I have thereason why I'm back in the South
, because I'm a king.
I feel like I want to do itmyself.
Now I'm not.
I am in contact with him andhe's still a person that I can

(01:10:00):
reach out uh to uh to help, um,uh, bring this vision into
fruition.
Uh, but it's taken.
I'm using my intuition and youknow, and um when I'll reach out
to him.
I had an intuition to reach outto him today.
I don't know why, but I'm gonnafollow on.
I'm gonna follow up on that um,intuitive, intuitive thoughts,
um, but I'm good at networkingand I've been offered $2 million

(01:10:22):
to build a studio here inAlabama, but I'm not depending
on that money.
The money hasn't come in yet,but I'm still working on
developing the money, raisingthe funds myself.
So when I have this studio, Iknow how to build it, I know
what I'm looking for, I know howI want it to look.
So I'm going to have an empireto where I'm putting out

(01:10:44):
television shows thatincorporate messages of love,
learning how to love yourself,you know, like the show Rock.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Ice and Love it all.
Sucks, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, I love it all shucks
.
Yeah, yeah, I love watchingrock.
He was a man.
Men we want to see women.
They want to see strong,dominant men that really take
care of the house and we likethat.
And I'm with you, uh, dre, aboutyou know, bill cosby, how, um,
I'm not gonna look at the darkside, I'm gonna look at the

(01:11:13):
positive.
It I'm going to look at thepositive.
It's dark and light toeverybody.
I have no judgment.
His choices in life does notaffect me.
Now, if I, if I, if I don'tallow them to Right, so I could
only look at the positive if Iwant to.
That's free will.
I can look at his line of work,his portfolio of television
shows and seeing what he's doneof television shows and seeing

(01:11:36):
what he's done, and I can use itas a template to incorporate my
own shows and the cartoons,from the Fat Alberts to the it's
a Different World, to the Cosbyshow, and showing that family
life and showing that stabilityand balance.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
It's kind of sad that , you know, I guess we put the
flag on him.
You know what society puts aflag on him?
Because Bill Cosby man, Ibelieve single-handedly changed
the perception of Black Americathrough television.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
He's too powerful.
He's too powerful for them tosee.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
I mean just to see doctors and lawyers on TV.
That was us, the house.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
That was definitely one thing.
But then when you're looking athim back in the 70s doing black
history, stolen, telling youPicasso took this picture from
black people, you know what Imean.
Things like that, Putting outinformation like that, and even
in his latter years and I'll behonest with you when he was
having his speeches and whatnot,and everybody's like, oh, Bill
Trippin, Back in the day, youknow when he's telling you you

(01:12:33):
know, your kid's got $300sneakers but don't have a
computer or don't have books,and things like that.
And it's like people would sayah, Bill tripping, you know he
always getting crazy, but no, hewas actually right, because now
you're seeing this today,that's right.
You're seeing it today.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
When I was younger, I disagreed with him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
You know was it was on to something.
You know, I mean, it was on tosomething and that's the thing
is.
Like, when you talk about billcosby the reason why I mentioned
byron allen and all thisbecause, like, when you see, you
know these guys, at one point,you know bill cosby trying to
buy nbc, you know what type ofprogramming was going on.
There was gonna be somethingpositive.
You know, I'm quite sure byronallen's thinking the same way
and even when he has his issueswhere they're trying to like
block him from buying certainnetworks and things like that,
you know, I mean, I always lookat it in a sense of like there's

(01:13:21):
a reason why these things arehappening, because it's
something that they're bringingto the table, that you know what
we see now.
You know the people that theso-called powers that be don't
want that.
You know they're trying toprevent that.
I should should say you knowfrom business.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Because they know the power of filmmaking.
They know the power oftelevision.
People are glued to thetelevision.
People are glued to theirphones.
I can create a movie right nowand if it's good enough, people
are going to be watching itright.
And there is a cause andthere's an effect of everything
that we do in life.
Everything that we do, I cancause something to happen.

(01:13:57):
Well, guess what that cause?
It comes with an effect.
If I have a positive cause,it's going to come with a
positive effect.
So the powers that be know thepower of television.
They know how powerful it is.
It's hard to get away from it.
It's entertaining this God mindthat we're operating the God
mind.
Everybody has a God mind, butnobody knows how to use the God

(01:14:18):
mind until it's full ofpotential.
We're learning how to use theGod mind until it's full of
potential.
The brain balance everythingthat we do.
If you don't watch TV,understand that you're
overwatching.
Understand that we're on ourphones too much.
Understand.
But the people on television,they don't care about that, they

(01:14:41):
just want your money.
It's all about the money, money, money, money, money and money,
money.
And to control you so that youdon't wake up.
So if I keep you busy on yourphone.
You're not talking about, youknow, revolution.
That's what happens to theblack panthers right right, it's
a different type of drug how dowe stop the movement of the
black panthers?
We incorporate drugs That'llslow them down.
They'll be more lethargic, theywon't move as fast, they won't
even think about you know,they'll just be chilling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Even now, in our own society, right now.
I think that's another thingthat's over-marketed to us, man,
you know, we come, like I said,come from New York and New York
, man, it's so much weed that'sbeing sold in New York right now
, Like you know, it's crazy,like you know, on every block
and everything like that, but tome personally I feel like it's

(01:15:24):
personally pushed towards.
You know black and black andbrown people like crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Oh, I'm glad you mentioned that because on my
journey to just higherenlightenment, I use, I utilize.
I didn't start, didn't startexperimenting with weed until I
was like mid-30s, 35, because Iwas in the military I used to
get drug tested.
I didn't want to lose mybenefits.
I was like, no, I'm not doingthat.
What I discovered?

(01:15:49):
I was already on my spiritualjourney, I was already at a
certain level, but I discoveredthat the THC I did my study to
educate yourself the THC awakenswho you are.
It heightens your senses of whoyou are at that moment in time
that you're taking the THC.
So when a THC reacts, it'sbasically so.

(01:16:11):
When I first took a gummy in LAand.
I was like yo.
I said I'm going to go to the,you know, to the weed store and
I'm going to try these edibles.
And what it did.
I went home I made sure Iwasn't going to be crazy.
I was like I did my researchbecause I didn't know a lot of
people my family, a lot offriends that I knew who were
messed up in the head based off,you know, bad weed or whatever.

(01:16:33):
Yeah right.
And so I wanted to do myresearch and make sure that I
was, you know, going at it witheducation.
So what I discovered was theTAT just enhances where you
already are.
So if you're nervous, you'refearful and you're violent, it's
just going to make you moreviolent.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
More fearful.
You know the funny thing?
I mean, we haven't taken thisconversation forever, man, but
what happens is-.
Yeah, good man, you got the time.
What I'm noticing now you knowwhat I mean from dealing with
these children.
I mean going in the drive-thru.
Wherever you see these kids atman, they is so wasted.

(01:17:11):
You're looking at them.
You're like bro, you ain't evenright for work.
Man Like you know what I mean.
The drive-thru was going slowbecause he can't get it right.
Like we living in a and I'll saythis, and I'm not promoting no
drug or whatever the case may beI can say honestly, during my

(01:17:33):
era with the guys I grew up, Inever was a drug person.
I did alcohol.
Everybody got something.
God please forgive me for doingthat.
But the people that I grew upwith, they were at least able to
operate.
Like you said, I thinkpromoting that to us is making a
generation of lethargic people.
I kind of get what you'resaying, because it's kind of
almost like saying if you'relethargic, it's only going to

(01:17:53):
make you more lethargic.
If you're sharp, then maybe itmight enhance you.
Is that what you're, lethargic?
It's only gonna make you morelethargic if you, you know, um,
if you're sharp, then you know,maybe it might enhance.
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
yeah, exactly what I'm saying.
That's exactly so.
When I took the gummy I wasalready enlightened with like
knowledge, and so when I tookthe gummy I was like whoa, it
brought clarity to the knowledge.
I was like whoa and it mademore sense and it just came like
that and I was like, oh,because I had did it at an
intention.

(01:18:22):
Most people, when they do THCand they're smoking it,
ingesting it, eating it gummies,brownies, cookies, whatever the
case may be they do it.
They don't have an intention ofwhy they're doing it.
I made an intention that when Itake this gummy I practice
spirituality my stuff every day.
So I had no choice.

(01:18:43):
When I take the gummy, mythoughts are now getting
amplified, based off theknowledge that I'm learning,
that I'm pulling in Now I'm notadvocating doing what I do, I'm
just sharing knowledge.
This is what I did and this iswhat I discovered.
But I also did my research whenI went and took these THC

(01:19:03):
supplements.
I understood that with theright knowledge and the right
intention.
It should, because when I tookthe gummy I was paranoid a
little bit, but the paranoiawent away because I was aware of
it.
But most people that take THCor all the drugs, these
hallucinogens, are not expectingto be paranoid, they're not

(01:19:26):
expecting the paranoia to comefrom it, and then they lose
their mind because they can'tmake sense of the reality now
that they're in that.
The THC has now opened them upto a new reality, another
reality that they're not readyto deal with consciously and
make sense of it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I think that's another issue that we have too,
man, is that again, we're at nowaveform.
Am I promoting doing no drugsat all?
But on the same token, it'slike when I look at it now from
what it was.
You know, again, I wasn't adrug person in the street, I
never liked it or anything likethat, but I have friends that

(01:20:04):
did it and I think what thesekids are doing now is is a is a
high, high THC level.
That's.
You know, out of this roof man,and they're doing something
different.
You know, like you know, when Icame up, you know, out of this
roof man, and they're doingsomething different.
You know, like you know, when Icame up, you know the dreads
and you know the people in NewYork.
They made sure that every theywas about the earth, they wanted
it straight out the earth.

(01:20:25):
It's like now they're wrappingit in hash.
You know what I mean theydipping it in this and they, you
know they're doing all that.
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I mean they're running from themselves because
they can't make sense of thereality that they're currently
in, and the person that drinksis just running from problems
that they can't make sense of.
You're right about that.
So I have compassion for theseyoung men and women who are just
lost.
I was once lost, but now I'mfound.
Isn't that amazing Grace?
I once was lost, but now I'mfound.

(01:21:12):
Is that amazing Grace?
I once was lost, but now I.
I don't want to do nothing, Idon't want to be lazy, I want to
drink Sunday.
You got to do it all over again.
So when is there time to reallydo the self-development work?
Otherwise, now you're just in aworld filled with entertainment
and distractions and now yourmind can't think because
everything's in your faceconstantly and you never have

(01:21:33):
peace, right, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
That's why I said, that's why I can't promote
Spiritually.
I couldn't promote it because Inever believe in doing anything
that's going to take overcontrol of your body.
Again, I'm not talking like nohigh and mighty holy roller.
We did things coming up too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
It's your experience.
It's your experience, it's yourperspective.
Everybody either can respectyour perspective or not respect,
and you know everybody eithercould respect your perspective
or not respected.
I had to learn how to be OKwith nobody respecting my
perspective.
I had to stand in my truth andmy perspective and what I've
been learning you know andrespect everybody else's

(01:22:11):
perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
You see, I think the thing that bothers me is just, I
just see the destruction of ourpeople.
Man, like I'm looking at, youknow, you know it's sad to say I
mean cause I could, you know Ihave to have hope, but on the
other side I'm like yo, likethese kids, is not operating
right, man, you know what I mean.
Like, I just see, like it'sjust like the, the entertainment
, the drugs, the, you know, soon and so forth.

(01:22:35):
Man, it's hard to even raise achild.
I sympathize with anybody gotto raise a child in this, this
day and age.
You got to send them to school,your morals and religious
principles of being, you know,forced out.
You know, I mean it's just alot of stuff that's going on and
I mean we could talk about thatforever.
But you know, again, it's justlike I couldn't promote anything

(01:22:55):
that's going to that I think isgoing to hurt our people.
Or any people, for that matter.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
I mean but again.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
It's a tough time we live in now, you know, because
I'm just.
I'm just seeing the things thatI'm seeing in life, walking
around, driving and stuff likethat.
My passion now is like come on,man, I can't do this.
I remember rap music.
I love rap music growing up.
Now I listen to it Dropbox.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I still have it in my system.

(01:23:25):
You know what?
I mean I still have that lovefor it in my system.
But on the same token, now Ican look back conversation.
I remember years ago, man,listening to MOP, and I was with
a bunch of guys and I'm tellingyou, mop I don't know if you

(01:23:48):
know from your area MOP is likereal hardcore hip hop music.
And I was thinking to myselflike you know, when you get in
the car and you got that kind ofenergy behind you, that
negative, hardcore energy behindyou, you can't tell me it
doesn't put you in the mentalstate of doing something the
wrong way.
You know what I mean and itdoes, man, you know what I mean.
So then I had to come as anadult.
Now, when I deal with talkingto children and the sexy reds

(01:24:11):
and these different kind ofartists in the music, I'm like
yo man, y'all we're drivingthese kids the wrong way.
And I think what you saidearlier the Trap Call Quest and
whatever in some ways there wasa balance in it.
You know what I mean, becauseTrap Call Quest made you want to
read something.
You know Lauryn Hill and themmade you want to go pick up a
book and you know I heardMiseducation of Sonny Carson.

(01:24:33):
It makes you go want toinvestigate things.
This stuff right now is sostupid and Candy Apple is
ridiculous.
Man, this is my soapbox man, Idon't want to go too crazy man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speak from your heart.
I hear you and I sympathizewith you, but I just know we
just have to keep on pushingthrough repetition and
consistency Right, right, right,right, and.
But I just know we just have tokeep on pushing through
repetition and consistency Right, right, right, right, and be in
the light.
I know I'm a light worker and Iknow I got a lot of work to do.
I'm dedicating my life to this.
I will be doing this until Ihave no more breath, until I
choose to leave or a tragicaccident takes me out, or

(01:25:09):
whatever the case.
But this is my calling, and soI know that I'm going to do
great.
I'm going to do great.
I'm going to do great in what Ido, because I'm not giving
myself room for failure in thisprocess.
So I see the light.
At one point in time I didn'tsee the light in hope for
humanity, and our culture isBlack men and Black women.

(01:25:33):
But I do see it and I'm happy.
That's why I keep smiling,because the pendulum must swing
to the dark for a little bit andit must go to the right.
So now it's time for the lightto take over, and we're in the
year of Aquarius.
I don't know if you believe inastrology, but I'm an Aquarius
and so I feel a great service.

(01:25:54):
And we are humanitarians and soI feel a great service.
And we are humanitarians and soI feel a great service.
And there are otherlightworkers like you, like
yourselves, who are helping putout the message.
And in having guests likemyself, we have a positive
message to reach not just ourculture, but the entire world,

(01:26:17):
because you know one thing thatit is the black culture that's
going to take this whole entireworld to new heights, because
everything that we do here inAmerica, the world is watching.
Everything, from our music, howwe dance, whatever we talk
about reality TV, we set the barmajority for the world.
Everybody wants to be like thisblack male.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
The one positive thing I want to say about our
children.
Now, man, is one thing that youcan't say about them they're
about getting to the bag,they're about getting to that
money.
The only problem I have issometimes is that they don't
care how to get to the money,but they're about getting to the
money.
And as far as the informationman, they will Google something

(01:27:01):
in a minute and you can't bullcrap them.
They can get in history andthey could come back at you and
fire back at you immediatelywith certain things.
So I wanted to give a positivein the sense that they got some
good things going on.
I'm not saying that it's all bador anything like that, but I'm

(01:27:24):
just giving what I see so far,man, maybe I'm an old man, maybe
I'm looking at thingsdifferently.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
It's your perspective .
You're living in New York andyou're looking at the society of
where you live.
I can talk about the societywhere I'm at right now,
currently in Alabama.
I could talk about the societywhere I was in Los Angeles.
So, and what I see in thelandscape, and you know, in
thinking, and you know, soyou're just speaking.

(01:27:51):
Your perspective is neitherright nor wrong.
It's right for you, it's yourlens that you're seeing the
world out of, right, and Irespect it, and I respect it
100%, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Definitely.
Well, brother, we thank you forbeing on and, before you know,
we let you go for real becausewe can carry this conversation
on.
You know, save some of it forwhen we have you back.
How about that?
We have you back on.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
I mean, it's like sitting on a stoop.
Yeah, it's like this is stooptalk.
Sitting on a stoop.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Yeah, we're in Brooklyn, we just chilling, you
know what I'm saying, b-boystyle.
You know what I'm saying JustSpike Lee joint.
That's what it is Like, thiscamera action.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
We just sitting there chilling your handles, like
where they can reach you, at howthey can support this work that
you're doing and all Go aheadand speak to the audience At
this moment in time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
You could reach me at my website.
It's brianisomconsultingcom andthat's spelled B-R-I-A-N.
Brian Isom, i-s-o-m, as in Maryconsultingcom, and there is
where I have my TV projects.
You can book a session with me,and my IG handle is Black

(01:29:12):
Buddha.
Now I only have one pictureBuddha.
Now I only have one picture.
I'm getting back into the swingof things because I had to
reinvent myself and be moremethodic about how I present
myself to the world, becauseobviously, people want to check
out your social and they willjudge you based on what your
social.
They'll validate you orinvalidate you based off what

(01:29:35):
you put on there.
I have to be mindful and so, asI'm building my Instagram page,
it's Black Buddha B-L-A-K.
Buddha.
B-u-d-d-h-a the number nine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Okay, and I wanted to mention this too, because I
know you was talking about yourprojects and I hear you working
on the photography photographyfor uh shoes Russell yes, good
brother yes, yes yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
La Chris um brought us together.
La Chris is a is a.
She's you know, he's the gluethat's bringing a lot of things
together, and I want to wish hernothing but love, because
without her, I wouldn't besitting here talking to you guys
If it wasn't for her puttingthis together.

(01:30:28):
So Chris Jordan is a powerhouseand a wonderful person in my
life, so that's how me andRussell Andrews became connected
a powerhouse and a wonderfulperson in my life.
So that's how me and RussellAndrews became connected.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
I would like to have you and Russell on here together
, man.
I don't even want to cut youoff straight, but I would like
to have you and Russell on heretogether, man.
We sit down and chop it up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
That's a good brother , I can see how you guys get
along, man, because you look youseem like a younger version of
him, man.
And then the conversation theconversation, too, is very
similar.
You know what I mean, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
And he's a good brother man, Very good brother,
Very good brother man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Thank you for that compliment.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
So again, don't be a stranger, you know what I mean.
You definitely, definitely,have a spot on the show man.
I'm going to come back and youknow, just chop it up like this
man.
Just chop it up like this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
So listen, I'm going to give our handles too.
So we really appreciate yourtime, Brian.
So just hang on for a minute asyou can.
All right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
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We thank you all once again foryour time, the audience.
Thank you for making space,brian, thank you for making
space, and we encourage you,please, to speak the truth
quietly and clearly and listento others, even the dull and the
ignorant, because they too havetheir story to tell.

(01:32:16):
So until next time, please keepin mind that if you each one
teach one, and if you can't findone, you talk to the little
ones and you'll see that they'llfeel the missing piece to rise
and shine.
Thank you, brothers and sisters, for tuning in.
Brian, thank you once again.
That's right, and to that wesay peace.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Peace.

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