E61: What is "clean meat?" (with Paul Shapiro)

Paul Shapiro wants you to know we can revolutionize the way we eat meat. Be it eating less meat, cleaner meat, or plant-based meat, we can still get the nutrients we need — and more — if we take a step back from the practices that are harmful to animals, humans and the climate.

Paul Shapiro is the author of "Clean Meat: How Growing Meat Without Animals Will Revolutionize Dinner and the World." He's also a long-time leader in food sustainability and the CEO of The Better Meat Co., which creates plant protein formulations that can enhance — or even replace — your meat.