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Article Referenced in the show: Object Permanence
In this episode of 'Organizing an ADHD Brain,' host Megs dives into the emotional journey of letting go and decluttering, specifically tailored for individuals with ADHD. Megs shares personal stories about parting with sentimental items, from baby blankets to old marriage photos, illustrating the challenging yet liberating experience of decluttering. She also discusses the concept of object permanence in ADHD and how it affects decision-making. Throughout the episode, Megs emphasizes the importance of making hard decisions, dealing with emotions tied to belongings, and not fearing regret. She encourages listeners to join her community for body doubling sessions and workshops on creating dopamine menus, aiming to help others organize their lives effectively. Additionally, Megs proposes a six-week dopamine menu challenge to reduce screen time and invites suggestions for suitable podcast sponsors.
01:07 The Emotional Journey of Letting Go
03:19 Personal Stories of Letting Go
10:45 Lessons Learned and Moving Forward
27:36 Community and Support
29:24 Conclusion and Future Plans
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Hey, beautiful people.
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Welcome back to another episodeof organizing an ADHD brain.
I'm your host Megs, and I'mreally excited to be talking to
you again about letting go.
This is a common theme in ourlife when it comes to organizing
and decluttering.
And of course, decluttering isgoing to be the first step.
into letting go and getting moreorganized.
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Some quick announcements foryou.
if you're ready to join myorganizing an ADHD brain
community, we're doing a bodydoubling session on Tuesday
where you're welcome to come anddo whatever tasks you need to
check off your list.
I'm also going to be leading aworkshop on getting our dopamine
menus done.
if you go to my website, you candownload the dopamine menu and a
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video how to that'll walk youthrough it.
but I don't know a lot of peoplethat have actually made their
dopamine menu yet.
So I figured that would be sucha good way to do it in the
community.
If you haven't downloaded ityet, check it out.
Just go to mindfulmegs.
com or organizinganadhdbrain.
com and you will find it underdopamine menu.
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I have the link in the shownotes below.
This week I decided to do thisepisode on letting go and talk
about some of the things Iremember letting go and if I
regret them or not.
I started to think about thismore because often times it's so
hard for us to let go because wethink we might need these items.
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We think it belongs tosomething, or we think we could
come to a point in our lifewhere we might need to use it.
And so we keep it.
And then, there are so manyitems in our house that aren't
necessarily there for our livesright now, they're there for our
potential lives in the future,just in case.
But what if we eliminated thejust in cases?
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What if we decided that we couldlet go of the things that we
might need in the future?
And I'm going to give you someexamples of the decisions that
I've made along the way to helpme get to the position of
letting go in a way that feels alittle bit easier.
But truthfully, I don't knowthat it really does get easier.
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I'm not going to tell you andsugarcoat to you that, yeah,
once you make the decisionenough, you're just, you're able
to make all the decisions andthey're going to feel really
good letting go.
Now, letting go feelsincredible.
It really does.
When you drop something off at adonation center and maybe it's
an entire trunk load of stuffthat you've had in your car, if
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you go through your closet andyou're finally letting go of
clothes, it feels incrediblygood to let that stuff go.
But when you are makingdecisions, one item at a time,
it can feel overwhelming.
In fact, most of my clients,when I was doing a lot more in
person organizing, I felt sooverwhelmed, I could see how
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mentally exhausted they wouldget the longer I was having them
make decisions on the items thatneeded to leave their house.
So I'm going to give you thedetails, and I would love if you
could share some of the thingsthat you've let go of too.
I just want to be really honestwith you.
My ADHD hasn't gone anywherejust because I've let go and
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I've gotten organized in myhome.
It's still here, ready to play,and I'm going to talk to you
about how that manifests in somany different aspects of my
life.
So number one.
When I tell this story, I stillthink about the physical
reaction I had when letting thisitem go.
it was a bunch of stuff that Ihad gone through, including baby
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items of my daughters.
Also side note, my girls have afriend over today and there's
not a big possibility that I canask them to be quiet and they're
going to listen.
they'll respect my wishes, butalso then forget almost
immediately.
I don't actually remember makingthe decision to let this go.
but I do remember this moment.
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There was this pink, soft babyblanket with little elephants
all over.
And I love elephants.
And it was Cora's.
Cora is five.
And so she's getting older.
And, we had all gone to thedonation place together, dropped
off a bunch of stuff, And as wewere driving away, Cora saw this
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baby blanket on the top of thepile of stuff.
and this is a bigger than normaldonation drop off.
we brought pillows and blanketsand baby stuff and clothes.
And there was a lot of stuffthat we dropped off in that pink
blanket was one of them.
And Cora started screaming as wewere driving away, seeing that
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blanket was at the top of thepile.
That was my perspective.
I thought that she had seen thisbaby blanket of hers from her
childhood.
And didn't want to let it gobecause that is the relationship
that I have always had to items.
And so I immediately startedcrying and I started questioning
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my very existence because I'mlike, Oh my gosh, I'm the worst
mom in the world.
How could I ever let go of thisbaby blanket?
I do include my girls in so manyof the decisions that we make,
but because she was crying and Ithought it was about the baby
blanket, I started crying too,because it was genuinely very
hard for me to let it go.
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And I made peace with it becauseThere were no babies at that
point in life that we could havepassed it on to.
There was no reason for us tokeep it because I already have
the sentimental items that Iwant to keep in a box for her.
And it made sense to let theitem go.
Cora had started crying becauseshe thought.
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That I had donated her brand newblanket that we had just bought
from Costco.
it was in that moment that I hadto process some of the emotions
that I was feeling in letting itgo.
And in this moment, I still feelsome of those emotions.
But I also don't regret lettingthat blanket go because knowing
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the amount of space I have in myhome, it's just not something
that I want to keep hereanymore.
And it still makes me sad alittle bit, but I don't regret
it.
And it's important to realizethat other people's emotions
could trigger something in me,even though she wasn't crying
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about the blanket.
She's crying about her newblanket that we still have, by
the way.
we've also acquired at least sixmore blankets since that
incident, so I think we're good.
Number two.
we've been decluttering ourbasement for some time now.
We don't have a ton of stuffdown there, but we are getting
prepared to move across thecountry.
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My husband and I decided that wewant a little bit more land, and
we want a garden where we don'thave to spend a ton of money to
water, because rain naturallyhappens on the east coast a
little bit more than it does inColorado.
So one of the things I wasdecluttering and I was going
through some old wall hangingsthat I had sitting in the
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basement and I hadn't made afull decision on them making a
full decision as to say, this issomething that I definitely want
to hang up in the future, orthis is something that I
definitely don't want to hang upin the future.
And what am I going to do withit?
Does it sit here untilinevitably I'll make a decision
in the future, but I have tomake a decision on it every
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single time I see it to say,does it stay or does it go?
Or do I make a full decision?
So as I'm going through andchallenging myself to make a
full decision on these items inmy home, I had these canvas
prints made.
With my daughter's baby pictureson them and we also had a couple
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prints of Maternity photos thatwe had hanging on the wall at a
certain time and as I am lookingat them I realize you know,
these aren't something that Iwant to display anymore I love
that I have those maternityphotos to look at But it's not
something that I'm going to hangon the wall anymore.
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I then was trying to figure out,I talked to my husband about
this, because it's very good forme to talk some of these things
out, especially as I supportpeople with ADHD letting go in
their own homes.
So I'm talking to my husbandabout it.
And I'm like, maybe I could justcut it out.
I'll cut off the wood frame soit's not as big and bulky and I
can keep it that way.
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And he asked me, do we stillhave the picture somewhere?
And I said, yeah, I do have thepicture.
I'm not letting go of thepicture.
I'm just letting go of thecanvas, but for some reason,
because the canvas is a canvas,right?
Like it was printed andstretched and stapled and I paid
money for it.
It feels wrong to let it go andto throw it in the garbage.
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Plus, part of me is like, Ican't throw my baby in the
garbage, right?
this is my beautiful, preciousangel.
And I realized that she doesn'tgo away and her childhood does
not go away because I'm puttingthis in the garbage.
It's just that it's notsomething that belongs in our
home anymore.
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This is also something that mayprevent me from buying certain
canvases in the future.
If it's something that's onlygoing to hang on our wall for a
couple months or even a year, DoI spend more money investing on
these wall hangings or do Ispend money on something that
might last a little bit longer?
I get to start making thosedecisions instead, regardless of
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what you decide, you're incontrol of that, but I don't
need to store something that'sno longer going to belong in our
lives.
When I tell that story, I stillfeel a little emotional about
it.
So it hasn't gone away justbecause I made the decision.
But it's also not something thatI think about a lot, and
honestly, I probably think aboutit more just because I literally
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am a professional organizer forpeople with ADHD and I have to
tell the story.
I'm proud of myself for lettingit go because it's something
that I don't have to spend timemaking decisions about anymore.
And my girl's memories are stillalive and well.
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In the event that you arelistening to this and you're
like, I don't know who thiswoman is, but she is evil for
throwing away the canvas of herdaughter.
I want you to sit with thatbecause if you think that about
me, it could mean that you thinkthat about yourself.
You have these underlyingbeliefs of what it means to let
go and to keep things and whatit means to you.
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Part of me letting go was I hadto understand that I want to
have less in my home.
And in order for me to haveless, I do have to make some
harder decisions.
And I might be sad to letsomething go, but it's
bittersweet.
It's not just sad.
It's also growth in that I canappreciate the memory.
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I can appreciate that at onepoint in our lives.
We were able to hang that sweetphoto up on the wall, and now
we're not there anymore.
And that's okay.
One of my clients asked me, whatif she wanted that?
What if your daughter wantedthat to hang on her wall one
day?
And that's a great point.
If she would ever like to getthat photo put on canvas to hang
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up in her home, she absolutelycan because she will have access
to that photo.
And I'll make sure that, that'ssomething that she has an option
to do.
Just because I get rid of itdoesn't mean that it's not
attainable anymore.
I'm still giving her autonomy todecide what makes sense in her
life.
I've made a rule for myself thatI'm keeping the amount of items
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that I give to her when she getsolder Consolidated to one or two
boxes so that she can decidewhat makes sense for her to keep
and what to throw away in thefuture.
Number three, threw away an oldphoto album that was from my
first marriage and this was aweird one because That's
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something that you don't throwaway, but then it was from a
time that I don't know that I'mfully proud of.
I don't know that I'm fully,excited to say that I was
married before or that it wasfailed, right?
So when I looked at the album, Irealized that it brought up a
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lot of negative emotions in me.
And so When I decided to let itgo, it's a part of me, but it's
not necessarily a part of mypast that I want to relive, so
when I think about keepingthings like that, do I want to
sit down And show my kids thisalbum or, talk about some of the
things that happened on thatday.
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I don't.
and it's not that I'm erasinghistory, it's just that's not
who I am anymore.
And when I look at that album,it brought up negative emotions.
It didn't bring up things that Iwanted to relive joyfully.
I'm not erasing the bad.
I learned so much from All ofthe experiences that I've had,
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I've failed a ton, and I'velearned from those failures so
that I can build upon them.
And my husband?
The best man you could ever meetin your entire life.
He's pretty cool.
So did I learn?
Yeah.
And do I need that lying aroundanymore?
No.
So what I did is I went throughand took out some pictures of me
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and my best friends so that Icould look back and maybe some
family pictures too so that Icould truly enjoy some of the
positive aspects of the day, butI don't have to also look at the
negative things.
Number four.
I laugh about this one because Ithink I feel more regret.
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Then my husband ever has becauseI threw away a fermented shark
in a jar that my husband hadgotten from his best friend
growing up and we've had it ourentire marriage.
And one day, as I wasdecluttering and making some
decisions, I looked at myhusband, I said, Hey, is it okay
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if I let this go?
And without hesitation, he saidyes.
And, I felt awful for it.
he told me a story about itonce, about how his best friend
had gone to Hawaii and gottenhim a fermented shark in a jar.
and then I threw it away.
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In the lead up to this episode,I brought this up to my husband
and I'm like, do you have anyemotional feelings when it comes
to me letting this go for you?
And he goes, no.
And he goes, honestly, I neverremember that it ever exists
until you bring it up.
And I was like, when I bring itup, is it emotional for you?
And he goes, no.
but I'm making it a bigger dealthan it needs to be because I
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remember the story that wasattached to it.
That story never went away.
And in the event that my husbandforgets that his best friend got
him a fermented shark in a jarfrom Hawaii, will he be okay?
He will be.
Will I be okay?
Also, yes.
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But because I'm talking about itso much, I don't think we're
ever going to forget about theshark in the jar.
For the longest time underneathmy bed, I had this tupperware of
old t shirts.
I had a bunch of old t shirtsfrom high school and college.
They were old college t shirtswith my alma mater on it.
They were old band t shirts.
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If you're something corporatefan, that was my favorite band
growing up and I had all oftheir t shirts.
One of them was even signed bythe band.
I loved them so much and I hadheard from someone once that you
could have a quilt made out ofyour old t shirts and you could
turn them into somethingdifferent because I knew that
none of the t shirts or oldshirts in this container were
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something that I ever wanted towear again.
I had made that decision, right?
But I just thought I should keepthem partly because everyone
That I've ever known has alwayskept them.
I never heard about peopletalking about letting things
like this go and I remember thisone time that a friend of mine
had a daughter going to my almamater to visit and she wanted to
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see if I had a t shirt.
And I was like, Oh my God, yeah,I do.
And I got so excited.
I put it aside.
I was like, I have this! Meghanto the rescue! I felt so good
about having something thatcould be used by someone else.
And then, she didn't need it.
She never used it.
And it was okay.
I put it back away.
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And in the end, I let all ofthese t shirts go.
Because they were taking up roomunderneath my bed.
And I didn't necessarily want tokeep them there anymore.
I really just didn't want tokeep them in general.
And when I thought about makinga quilt for all of these t
shirts, I thought about, wherewould I keep a quilt like that?
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Would I ever use it?
And I was like, no.
I probably would fold it up andstick it in a closet somewhere.
And maybe pull out if I had aguest over, but probably not.
So instead, I have pictures ofall the concerts I used to go
to.
And those are there.
Me wearing the t shirts.
And guess what?
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They just started touring again,and they have one of the same t
shirts that I had in highschool.
But I didn't end up buying itit's not something that I need
It's not something that I feeldrawn to and now that I have so
much less in my closet It's justnot something that I feel like I
need to collect So I let go ofthe band t shirts and every once
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in a while Especially when I sawthem in concert back in
September.
I was like, oh should I havekept that?
I'm like, no.
It takes up too much room andhonestly, when I put on those t
shirts, they fit awfully.
like they shrunk in weird anddifferent ways.
They didn't feel good.
I had gotten the band t shirtsigned, but I didn't keep it
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preserved.
I kept using it and washing it.
And I have a hat that saysroadie on it and it's signed by
the band.
And I have, other things that Igot from being a street team
member at one point.
So look, I'm a dedicated fan,and if I don't have a t shirt,
it doesn't mean that I'm less ofa dedicated fan.
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I can still move on with mylife.
I told this story in our groupcoaching in the community this
week, So this would be examplenumber six, and I'm sure I have
more of them, but I got rid of abunch of Halloween costumes and
I used to live in Salem.
I love Halloween.
I love dressing up We justalways have a really good time
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on Halloween.
Plus, our neighborhood onHalloween is so legit.
I've seen some social mediaposts about how Halloween has
changed.
Not in this neighborhood.
It is hopping.
Let me tell you, people drivehere from other places just so
that they can trick or treat Butthis past year, I didn't have a
Halloween costume and I didn'twant to spend money on one.
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And in that moment, felt awfulabout it.
I'm like, ugh, if only I had aHalloween costume space that I
could go back to and pull out anold costume that I wouldn't have
had to spend more money on.
But I let them go.
Some of them I sold, some ofthem I decided to donate, and
here I was, costumeless.
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So, in my resourceful brain,because our ADHD brains are
incredible, I went and created acostume from scratch.
And I did a little research,too.
I looked on Pinterest, I lookedat different things.
I was a lumberjack one day, andI drew myself a mustache and a
beard, and I wore one of myhusband's flannel shirts.
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I also did a makeshift TaylorSwift costume because I have
sparkly boots and those aren'tgoing anywhere because I made
space for those, but I foundcostumes.
I was able to dress up becauseI'm resourceful and I already
had things in my home that wereable to be used for this
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costume.
what's really interesting aboutthis is that we like to be
prepared for everything.
So we keep everything.
just in case.
So now in the event thatsomething happens, we can be
like, I have that because ofcourse I do, right?
I keep everything.
You need a wire.
Let me go to my box of wires.
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I am bound to have thatsomewhere.
It's just going to take me about30 minutes to look for it
because there's a lot of wiresin there and they are not
organized.
But what if we weren't preparedfor everything?
What if?
You didn't have the wire thatwas needed.
What would happen?
You'd have to go and replace it,right?
But how often does that actuallycome up?
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is it worth keeping everythingso that you can be the hero once
or twice during the year becauseyou have exactly what someone's
looking for?
And now do they depend on youfor having everything because
you're always coming to therescue?
What if you didn't haveeverything?
And what if that was okaybecause We were never supposed
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to have this much.
In a world of Amazons andWalmart Plus and Target Circle,
we have everything at the clickof a button.
And in that, we keep buyingmore, because now we feel like
we need to be prepared foranything.
Which is fascinating, here'swhat I have discovered about
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ADHD and letting go.
I'm gonna post an article in theshow notes below about ADHD and
object permanence.
It's very interesting, and I'mgoing to talk about my own
experiences with clients thatproved this to be something
that's very important toconsider.
According to this theory, objectpermanence problems make people
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with ADHD more likely to forgetimportant tasks, objects, and
people When they are notpresent.
But object permanence is only atheory of ADHD and not an
accepted symptom or diagnosis.
I talk about object permanencebecause when the item is in your
hands and you now have to make adecision on that item, we have
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so much connection to that item.
We're like, Oh, I coulddefinitely use this in the
future.
I'm going to keep it just incase.
Oh, if it's a piece of art, Oh,I'm definitely going to keep
this because it's so important.
My child drew this.
If it's an article of clothingthat used to fit us, it might
fit us again.
I'm going to keep this just incase.
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Most of the time we're keepingall of these things just in case
until we get to the point andyou're listening to this podcast
for a reason, right?
Because you have too much stuffor you're disorganized and
things don't have a place tolive.
But in most cases, we have somuch stuff just in case.
that we can't find the stuffthat we actually need to live
our lives.
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And so then what happens is allthe just in case stuff, all
these delayed decisions and allthe decisions waiting to be made
are in the way of us making adecision on the things that we
need right here in this moment.
And they're in the way of usactually finding The tape that
we need.
So instead of being able to findthe tape, we go out and buy
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more.
They're in the way of buyingthat book of stamps that we
bought last month, but now wecan't find it, so we just go out
and buy more.
And it's in the way of thatreally cute shirt that we know
looks really adorable on us.
But we have no idea where it isbecause we have too many other
clothes standing in our way.
I talk about object permanencebecause the decision you're
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making in the moment feelsexcruciating, and as soon as you
make the decision, it's done.
And I share with you theexperiences of some of the
things that I remember becausethey did cause an emotional
reaction in me, and it was hard.
And to this day, I still feelsome hard emotions as I am
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making decisions, and as I thinkback on those other things that
I let go.
But in not one instance have Ifelt regret.
I'm not regretful of letting goor making those hard decisions
because it has truly allowed meto live a life.
That doesn't feel sooverwhelming anymore.
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I'm literally getting emotionalright now, and I think it's just
because I've put so much effort,not only in this podcast, but in
letting go the way I'm living mylife now is totally different
than the way that I've everlived my life before.
I actually canceled Amazon lastmonth and I'm fine because.
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I now think a little bit morebefore I'm making a purchase.
I have a lot more to say on thethings that we impulsively buy
because I think that they'remade so cheaply nowadays and I
feel like we just, it's so easyto get things that even if it
has a four and a half starreview, we're going to buy it,
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but most of the time thosereviews are being left within
the first two weeks of havingsomething.
And then things are breakingwithin eight months of us
having, but then we keep itbecause we feel like we're going
to fix it, but in turn we justgo out and buy a new one to
replace it.
So now we have two, one works,one doesn't, but nothing leaves
our house.
The only constant in life ischange.
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I say this all of the time.
The only constant in life ischange and you get to make a
choice as you're moving forwardin life.
Do you let go of the stuff sothat you could make room for the
life that you want to live?
Because you have goals, you havethings you want to achieve, or
do you hold on to all of thatwhile you're also welcoming in
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this new life that you'reliving?
If you hold on to everything,you're going to drown in
physical stuff.
And if you're listening to thispodcast, it's likely because you
are, and you don't know where tostart, and that's okay.
I'm just here to say that thispodcast today, the reason why I
put this together is that yourdecisions aren't going to be
easy.
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And I think we hesitate frommaking those decisions because
we're waiting for it to be easy.
what if it never gets easier?
Are you never going to let go?
No, you are.
You start with the easy stuff.
What's the easy stuff?
Office supplies.
I know we love office supplies,okay?
Don't come at me.
I love me some sticky notes.
And you know what?
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You might make a mistake.
You might let something go thatyou didn't actually want to.
And, are you going to be okay?
Abso darn lutely.
Because you will find a way tolive without that item.
Because you will be so proud ofeverything else you let go along
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the way that you don't regret.
that all of the items thatyou've let go makes up for the
one that you regret.
And like I said, I don't haveany regrets because I see this
incredible way of living on theother side, having less.
And I don't mean minimalism, butjust allowing yourself to live
with the stuff you need and notwith the stuff you think you
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need.
something that I'm working onthat I wanted to share with you
is putting down my phone more.
I've noticed that my scrollingtime has increased quite a bit.
And I mentioned in the beginningthat I'm going to be working on
my own dopamine menu and usingthat as a way to fill up my
world with a little bit morethan what social media is doing
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and maybe anything else that'sdistracting me on my phone, like
emails or things just pulling mein different directions.
I am going to lead you on achallenge.
Over the next six weeks to seeif you can do the same so in
order to participate in thischallenge It's totally free go
to my website and download thedopamine menu There's a video
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how to follow along if you wantsome additional support go to my
community.
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Hey, beautiful people.
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Welcome back to another episodeof organizing an ADHD brain.
I'm your host Megs, and I'mreally excited to be talking to
you again about letting go.
This is a common theme in ourlife when it comes to organizing
and decluttering.
And of course, decluttering isgoing to be the first step.
into letting go and getting moreorganized.
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I have the link in the shownotes below.
This week I decided to do thisepisode on letting go and talk
about some of the things Iremember letting go and if I
regret them or not.
I started to think about thismore because often times it's so
hard for us to let go because wethink we might need these items.
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We think it belongs tosomething, or we think we could
come to a point in our lifewhere we might need to use it.
And so we keep it.
And then, there are so manyitems in our house that aren't
necessarily there for our livesright now, they're there for our
potential lives in the future,just in case.
But what if we eliminated thejust in cases?
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What if we decided that we couldlet go of the things that we
might need in the future?
And I'm going to give you someexamples of the decisions that
I've made along the way to helpme get to the position of
letting go in a way that feels alittle bit easier.
But truthfully, I don't knowthat it really does get easier.
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I'm not going to tell you andsugarcoat to you that, yeah,
once you make the decisionenough, you're just, you're able
to make all the decisions andthey're going to feel really
good letting go.
Now, letting go feelsincredible.
It really does.
When you drop something off at adonation center and maybe it's
an entire trunk load of stuffthat you've had in your car, if
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you go through your closet andyou're finally letting go of
clothes, it feels incrediblygood to let that stuff go.
But when you are makingdecisions, one item at a time,
it can feel overwhelming.
In fact, most of my clients,when I was doing a lot more in
person organizing, I felt sooverwhelmed, I could see how
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mentally exhausted they wouldget the longer I was having them
make decisions on the items thatneeded to leave their house.
So I'm going to give you thedetails, and I would love if you
could share some of the thingsthat you've let go of too.
I just want to be really honestwith you.
My ADHD hasn't gone anywherejust because I've let go and
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I've gotten organized in myhome.
It's still here, ready to play,and I'm going to talk to you
about how that manifests in somany different aspects of my
life.
So number one.
When I tell this story, I stillthink about the physical
reaction I had when letting thisitem go.
it was a bunch of stuff that Ihad gone through, including baby
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items of my daughters.
Also side note, my girls have afriend over today and there's
not a big possibility that I canask them to be quiet and they're
going to listen.
they'll respect my wishes, butalso then forget almost
immediately.
I don't actually remember makingthe decision to let this go.
but I do remember this moment.
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There was this pink, soft babyblanket with little elephants
all over.
And I love elephants.
And it was Cora's.
Cora is five.
And so she's getting older.
And, we had all gone to thedonation place together, dropped
off a bunch of stuff, And as wewere driving away, Cora saw this
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baby blanket on the top of thepile of stuff.
and this is a bigger than normaldonation drop off.
we brought pillows and blanketsand baby stuff and clothes.
And there was a lot of stuffthat we dropped off in that pink
blanket was one of them.
And Cora started screaming as wewere driving away, seeing that
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blanket was at the top of thepile.
That was my perspective.
I thought that she had seen thisbaby blanket of hers from her
childhood.
And didn't want to let it gobecause that is the relationship
that I have always had to items.
And so I immediately startedcrying and I started questioning
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my very existence because I'mlike, Oh my gosh, I'm the worst
mom in the world.
How could I ever let go of thisbaby blanket?
I do include my girls in so manyof the decisions that we make,
but because she was crying and Ithought it was about the baby
blanket, I started crying too,because it was genuinely very
hard for me to let it go.
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And I made peace with it becauseThere were no babies at that
point in life that we could havepassed it on to.
There was no reason for us tokeep it because I already have
the sentimental items that Iwant to keep in a box for her.
And it made sense to let theitem go.
Cora had started crying becauseshe thought.
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That I had donated her brand newblanket that we had just bought
from Costco.
it was in that moment that I hadto process some of the emotions
that I was feeling in letting itgo.
And in this moment, I still feelsome of those emotions.
But I also don't regret lettingthat blanket go because knowing
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the amount of space I have in myhome, it's just not something
that I want to keep hereanymore.
And it still makes me sad alittle bit, but I don't regret
it.
And it's important to realizethat other people's emotions
could trigger something in me,even though she wasn't crying
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about the blanket.
She's crying about her newblanket that we still have, by
the way.
we've also acquired at least sixmore blankets since that
incident, so I think we're good.
Number two.
we've been decluttering ourbasement for some time now.
We don't have a ton of stuffdown there, but we are getting
prepared to move across thecountry.
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My husband and I decided that wewant a little bit more land, and
we want a garden where we don'thave to spend a ton of money to
water, because rain naturallyhappens on the east coast a
little bit more than it does inColorado.
So one of the things I wasdecluttering and I was going
through some old wall hangingsthat I had sitting in the
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basement and I hadn't made afull decision on them making a
full decision as to say, this issomething that I definitely want
to hang up in the future, orthis is something that I
definitely don't want to hang upin the future.
And what am I going to do withit?
Does it sit here untilinevitably I'll make a decision
in the future, but I have tomake a decision on it every
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single time I see it to say,does it stay or does it go?
Or do I make a full decision?
So as I'm going through andchallenging myself to make a
full decision on these items inmy home, I had these canvas
prints made.
With my daughter's baby pictureson them and we also had a couple
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prints of Maternity photos thatwe had hanging on the wall at a
certain time and as I am lookingat them I realize you know,
these aren't something that Iwant to display anymore I love
that I have those maternityphotos to look at But it's not
something that I'm going to hangon the wall anymore.
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I then was trying to figure out,I talked to my husband about
this, because it's very good forme to talk some of these things
out, especially as I supportpeople with ADHD letting go in
their own homes.
So I'm talking to my husbandabout it.
And I'm like, maybe I could justcut it out.
I'll cut off the wood frame soit's not as big and bulky and I
can keep it that way.
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And he asked me, do we stillhave the picture somewhere?
And I said, yeah, I do have thepicture.
I'm not letting go of thepicture.
I'm just letting go of thecanvas, but for some reason,
because the canvas is a canvas,right?
Like it was printed andstretched and stapled and I paid
money for it.
It feels wrong to let it go andto throw it in the garbage.
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Plus, part of me is like, Ican't throw my baby in the
garbage, right?
this is my beautiful, preciousangel.
And I realized that she doesn'tgo away and her childhood does
not go away because I'm puttingthis in the garbage.
It's just that it's notsomething that belongs in our
home anymore.
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This is also something that mayprevent me from buying certain
canvases in the future.
If it's something that's onlygoing to hang on our wall for a
couple months or even a year, DoI spend more money investing on
these wall hangings or do Ispend money on something that
might last a little bit longer?
I get to start making thosedecisions instead, regardless of
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what you decide, you're incontrol of that, but I don't
need to store something that'sno longer going to belong in our
lives.
When I tell that story, I stillfeel a little emotional about
it.
So it hasn't gone away justbecause I made the decision.
But it's also not something thatI think about a lot, and
honestly, I probably think aboutit more just because I literally
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am a professional organizer forpeople with ADHD and I have to
tell the story.
I'm proud of myself for lettingit go because it's something
that I don't have to spend timemaking decisions about anymore.
And my girl's memories are stillalive and well.
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In the event that you arelistening to this and you're
like, I don't know who thiswoman is, but she is evil for
throwing away the canvas of herdaughter.
I want you to sit with thatbecause if you think that about
me, it could mean that you thinkthat about yourself.
You have these underlyingbeliefs of what it means to let
go and to keep things and whatit means to you.
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Part of me letting go was I hadto understand that I want to
have less in my home.
And in order for me to haveless, I do have to make some
harder decisions.
And I might be sad to letsomething go, but it's
bittersweet.
It's not just sad.
It's also growth in that I canappreciate the memory.
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I can appreciate that at onepoint in our lives.
We were able to hang that sweetphoto up on the wall, and now
we're not there anymore.
And that's okay.
One of my clients asked me, whatif she wanted that?
What if your daughter wantedthat to hang on her wall one
day?
And that's a great point.
If she would ever like to getthat photo put on canvas to hang
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up in her home, she absolutelycan because she will have access
to that photo.
And I'll make sure that, that'ssomething that she has an option
to do.
Just because I get rid of itdoesn't mean that it's not
attainable anymore.
I'm still giving her autonomy todecide what makes sense in her
life.
I've made a rule for myself thatI'm keeping the amount of items
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that I give to her when she getsolder Consolidated to one or two
boxes so that she can decidewhat makes sense for her to keep
and what to throw away in thefuture.
Number three, threw away an oldphoto album that was from my
first marriage and this was aweird one because That's
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something that you don't throwaway, but then it was from a
time that I don't know that I'mfully proud of.
I don't know that I'm fully,excited to say that I was
married before or that it wasfailed, right?
So when I looked at the album, Irealized that it brought up a
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lot of negative emotions in me.
And so When I decided to let itgo, it's a part of me, but it's
not necessarily a part of mypast that I want to relive, so
when I think about keepingthings like that, do I want to
sit down And show my kids thisalbum or, talk about some of the
things that happened on thatday.
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I don't.
and it's not that I'm erasinghistory, it's just that's not
who I am anymore.
And when I look at that album,it brought up negative emotions.
It didn't bring up things that Iwanted to relive joyfully.
I'm not erasing the bad.
I learned so much from All ofthe experiences that I've had,
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I've failed a ton, and I'velearned from those failures so
that I can build upon them.
And my husband?
The best man you could ever meetin your entire life.
He's pretty cool.
So did I learn?
Yeah.
And do I need that lying aroundanymore?
No.
So what I did is I went throughand took out some pictures of me
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and my best friends so that Icould look back and maybe some
family pictures too so that Icould truly enjoy some of the
positive aspects of the day, butI don't have to also look at the
negative things.
Number four.
I laugh about this one because Ithink I feel more regret.
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Then my husband ever has becauseI threw away a fermented shark
in a jar that my husband hadgotten from his best friend
growing up and we've had it ourentire marriage.
And one day, as I wasdecluttering and making some
decisions, I looked at myhusband, I said, Hey, is it okay
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if I let this go?
And without hesitation, he saidyes.
And, I felt awful for it.
he told me a story about itonce, about how his best friend
had gone to Hawaii and gottenhim a fermented shark in a jar.
and then I threw it away.
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In the lead up to this episode,I brought this up to my husband
and I'm like, do you have anyemotional feelings when it comes
to me letting this go for you?
And he goes, no.
And he goes, honestly, I neverremember that it ever exists
until you bring it up.
And I was like, when I bring itup, is it emotional for you?
And he goes, no.
but I'm making it a bigger dealthan it needs to be because I
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remember the story that wasattached to it.
That story never went away.
And in the event that my husbandforgets that his best friend got
him a fermented shark in a jarfrom Hawaii, will he be okay?
He will be.
Will I be okay?
Also, yes.
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But because I'm talking about itso much, I don't think we're
ever going to forget about theshark in the jar.
For the longest time underneathmy bed, I had this tupperware of
old t shirts.
I had a bunch of old t shirtsfrom high school and college.
They were old college t shirtswith my alma mater on it.
They were old band t shirts.
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If you're something corporatefan, that was my favorite band
growing up and I had all oftheir t shirts.
One of them was even signed bythe band.
I loved them so much and I hadheard from someone once that you
could have a quilt made out ofyour old t shirts and you could
turn them into somethingdifferent because I knew that
none of the t shirts or oldshirts in this container were
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something that I ever wanted towear again.
I had made that decision, right?
But I just thought I should keepthem partly because everyone
That I've ever known has alwayskept them.
I never heard about peopletalking about letting things
like this go and I remember thisone time that a friend of mine
had a daughter going to my almamater to visit and she wanted to
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see if I had a t shirt.
And I was like, Oh my God, yeah,I do.
And I got so excited.
I put it aside.
I was like, I have this! Meghanto the rescue! I felt so good
about having something thatcould be used by someone else.
And then, she didn't need it.
She never used it.
And it was okay.
I put it back away.
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And in the end, I let all ofthese t shirts go.
Because they were taking up roomunderneath my bed.
And I didn't necessarily want tokeep them there anymore.
I really just didn't want tokeep them in general.
And when I thought about makinga quilt for all of these t
shirts, I thought about, wherewould I keep a quilt like that?
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Would I ever use it?
And I was like, no.
I probably would fold it up andstick it in a closet somewhere.
And maybe pull out if I had aguest over, but probably not.
So instead, I have pictures ofall the concerts I used to go
to.
And those are there.
Me wearing the t shirts.
And guess what?
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They just started touring again,and they have one of the same t
shirts that I had in highschool.
But I didn't end up buying itit's not something that I need
It's not something that I feeldrawn to and now that I have so
much less in my closet It's justnot something that I feel like I
need to collect So I let go ofthe band t shirts and every once
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in a while Especially when I sawthem in concert back in
September.
I was like, oh should I havekept that?
I'm like, no.
It takes up too much room andhonestly, when I put on those t
shirts, they fit awfully.
like they shrunk in weird anddifferent ways.
They didn't feel good.
I had gotten the band t shirtsigned, but I didn't keep it
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preserved.
I kept using it and washing it.
And I have a hat that saysroadie on it and it's signed by
the band.
And I have, other things that Igot from being a street team
member at one point.
So look, I'm a dedicated fan,and if I don't have a t shirt,
it doesn't mean that I'm less ofa dedicated fan.
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I can still move on with mylife.
I told this story in our groupcoaching in the community this
week, So this would be examplenumber six, and I'm sure I have
more of them, but I got rid of abunch of Halloween costumes and
I used to live in Salem.
I love Halloween.
I love dressing up We justalways have a really good time
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on Halloween.
Plus, our neighborhood onHalloween is so legit.
I've seen some social mediaposts about how Halloween has
changed.
Not in this neighborhood.
It is hopping.
Let me tell you, people drivehere from other places just so
that they can trick or treat Butthis past year, I didn't have a
Halloween costume and I didn'twant to spend money on one.
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And in that moment, felt awfulabout it.
I'm like, ugh, if only I had aHalloween costume space that I
could go back to and pull out anold costume that I wouldn't have
had to spend more money on.
But I let them go.
Some of them I sold, some ofthem I decided to donate, and
here I was, costumeless.
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So, in my resourceful brain,because our ADHD brains are
incredible, I went and created acostume from scratch.
And I did a little research,too.
I looked on Pinterest, I lookedat different things.
I was a lumberjack one day, andI drew myself a mustache and a
beard, and I wore one of myhusband's flannel shirts.
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I also did a makeshift TaylorSwift costume because I have
sparkly boots and those aren'tgoing anywhere because I made
space for those, but I foundcostumes.
I was able to dress up becauseI'm resourceful and I already
had things in my home that wereable to be used for this
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costume.
what's really interesting aboutthis is that we like to be
prepared for everything.
So we keep everything.
just in case.
So now in the event thatsomething happens, we can be
like, I have that because ofcourse I do, right?
I keep everything.
You need a wire.
Let me go to my box of wires.
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I am bound to have thatsomewhere.
It's just going to take me about30 minutes to look for it
because there's a lot of wiresin there and they are not
organized.
But what if we weren't preparedfor everything?
What if?
You didn't have the wire thatwas needed.
What would happen?
You'd have to go and replace it,right?
But how often does that actuallycome up?
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is it worth keeping everythingso that you can be the hero once
or twice during the year becauseyou have exactly what someone's
looking for?
And now do they depend on youfor having everything because
you're always coming to therescue?
What if you didn't haveeverything?
And what if that was okaybecause We were never supposed
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to have this much.
In a world of Amazons andWalmart Plus and Target Circle,
we have everything at the clickof a button.
And in that, we keep buyingmore, because now we feel like
we need to be prepared foranything.
Which is fascinating, here'swhat I have discovered about
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ADHD and letting go.
I'm gonna post an article in theshow notes below about ADHD and
object permanence.
It's very interesting, and I'mgoing to talk about my own
experiences with clients thatproved this to be something
that's very important toconsider.
According to this theory, objectpermanence problems make people
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with ADHD more likely to forgetimportant tasks, objects, and
people When they are notpresent.
But object permanence is only atheory of ADHD and not an
accepted symptom or diagnosis.
I talk about object permanencebecause when the item is in your
hands and you now have to make adecision on that item, we have
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so much connection to that item.
We're like, Oh, I coulddefinitely use this in the
future.
I'm going to keep it just incase.
Oh, if it's a piece of art, Oh,I'm definitely going to keep
this because it's so important.
My child drew this.
If it's an article of clothingthat used to fit us, it might
fit us again.
I'm going to keep this just incase.
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Most of the time we're keepingall of these things just in case
until we get to the point andyou're listening to this podcast
for a reason, right?
Because you have too much stuffor you're disorganized and
things don't have a place tolive.
But in most cases, we have somuch stuff just in case.
that we can't find the stuffthat we actually need to live
our lives.
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And so then what happens is allthe just in case stuff, all
these delayed decisions and allthe decisions waiting to be made
are in the way of us making adecision on the things that we
need right here in this moment.
And they're in the way of usactually finding The tape that
we need.
So instead of being able to findthe tape, we go out and buy
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more.
They're in the way of buyingthat book of stamps that we
bought last month, but now wecan't find it, so we just go out
and buy more.
And it's in the way of thatreally cute shirt that we know
looks really adorable on us.
But we have no idea where it isbecause we have too many other
clothes standing in our way.
I talk about object permanencebecause the decision you're
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making in the moment feelsexcruciating, and as soon as you
make the decision, it's done.
And I share with you theexperiences of some of the
things that I remember becausethey did cause an emotional
reaction in me, and it was hard.
And to this day, I still feelsome hard emotions as I am
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making decisions, and as I thinkback on those other things that
I let go.
But in not one instance have Ifelt regret.
I'm not regretful of letting goor making those hard decisions
because it has truly allowed meto live a life.
That doesn't feel sooverwhelming anymore.
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I'm literally getting emotionalright now, and I think it's just
because I've put so much effort,not only in this podcast, but in
letting go the way I'm living mylife now is totally different
than the way that I've everlived my life before.
I actually canceled Amazon lastmonth and I'm fine because.
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I now think a little bit morebefore I'm making a purchase.
I have a lot more to say on thethings that we impulsively buy
because I think that they'remade so cheaply nowadays and I
feel like we just, it's so easyto get things that even if it
has a four and a half starreview, we're going to buy it,
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but most of the time thosereviews are being left within
the first two weeks of havingsomething.
And then things are breakingwithin eight months of us
having, but then we keep itbecause we feel like we're going
to fix it, but in turn we justgo out and buy a new one to
replace it.
So now we have two, one works,one doesn't, but nothing leaves
our house.
The only constant in life ischange.
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I say this all of the time.
The only constant in life ischange and you get to make a
choice as you're moving forwardin life.
Do you let go of the stuff sothat you could make room for the
life that you want to live?
Because you have goals, you havethings you want to achieve, or
do you hold on to all of thatwhile you're also welcoming in
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this new life that you'reliving?
If you hold on to everything,you're going to drown in
physical stuff.
And if you're listening to thispodcast, it's likely because you
are, and you don't know where tostart, and that's okay.
I'm just here to say that thispodcast today, the reason why I
put this together is that yourdecisions aren't going to be
easy.
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And I think we hesitate frommaking those decisions because
we're waiting for it to be easy.
what if it never gets easier?
Are you never going to let go?
No, you are.
You start with the easy stuff.
What's the easy stuff?
Office supplies.
I know we love office supplies,okay?
Don't come at me.
I love me some sticky notes.
And you know what?
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You might make a mistake.
You might let something go thatyou didn't actually want to.
And, are you going to be okay?
Abso darn lutely.
Because you will find a way tolive without that item.
Because you will be so proud ofeverything else you let go along
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the way that you don't regret.
that all of the items thatyou've let go makes up for the
one that you regret.
And like I said, I don't haveany regrets because I see this
incredible way of living on theother side, having less.
And I don't mean minimalism, butjust allowing yourself to live
with the stuff you need and notwith the stuff you think you
(27:35):
need.
something that I'm working onthat I wanted to share with you
is putting down my phone more.
I've noticed that my scrollingtime has increased quite a bit.
And I mentioned in the beginningthat I'm going to be working on
my own dopamine menu and usingthat as a way to fill up my
world with a little bit morethan what social media is doing
(27:56):
and maybe anything else that'sdistracting me on my phone, like
emails or things just pulling mein different directions.
I am going to lead you on achallenge.
Over the next six weeks to seeif you can do the same so in
order to participate in thischallenge It's totally free go
to my website and download thedopamine menu There's a video
(28:17):
how to follow along if you wantsome additional support go to my
community.
It's 27 a month there's amonthly group coaching session.
We also have two monthly bodydoubling sessions.
Some of them are where we'resilent and just working on tasks
behind the scenes.
Some of them, like I had said,I'm going to be leading a
workshop through different waysyou can get things done.
(28:40):
And on Tuesday, we're going togo through creating our dopamine
menu.
there's also a coupon code for 5off your first month.
And it is podcast.
so go check that out.
If you want to be around likeminded people who are also
interested in letting go.
If you need some morepersonalized one on one support,
I am a coach, and I would be sohappy to support you through
(29:01):
this journey.
And anyone who is coaching withme gets access to the community
for free for three months sinceit's a 90 day program.
I'll keep you in the loop onother ways to participate in
this dopamine menu challengeover the next six weeks, but
it's going to have a lot to dowith our screen time and
measuring it, and There could bea prize in it for you when you
(29:23):
participate.
Lastly, as I continue to moveforward in this podcasting
journey, I'm trying to figureout a way to sponsor the podcast
that makes sense for our ADHDbrains.
I'm not a huge proponent ofrecommending organizing supplies
or bins and you can go back tomy podcast episode on why bins
(29:43):
won't solve your clutter problemand I'll talk more about that.
But I'm trying to figure outwhat's going to make sense.
And so if you have any ideas,I'd love to hear those ideas.
I know that there's certainheadphones that can help us with
distractions, maybe soundmachines at night.
I'm just trying to figure outwhat makes sense and something
(30:04):
that I truly love that couldmake a difference in your life
that I could recommend for you.
it's important to me that I'mnot telling you to buy something
just to buy something.
So let me know if you have anyrecommendations.
You can text message me throughthe show below, but also
remember, I can't text you back,so you won't get a response from
me.
Or you can email me if you go tothe dopamine menu request, you
(30:26):
can actually even put a note inthere after you sign up for the
download, which is awesome.
I'm just really honored to beyour host.
I've only shared a tinypercentage of the things that I
have learned throughdecluttering and organizing with
ADHD.
So stay tuned.
I'm so happy to have you alongfor the ride.
I will see you next week.
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