Perth influencer, Em Davies, has set tongues wagging after listing her filthy couch on Facebook Marketplace for $900.
Gold Coast influencer, Olivia Mathers, has been reunited with her bengal cat, more than two months after it mysteriously disappeared.
Taylor Swift has stunned fans on the London leg of her Era’s Tour with a surprise performance by her NFL star boyfriend, Travis Kelce.
And KIC's divisive TikTok strategy.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
news twice a week. I'm Amy Torber and coming up
on today's show, m Davy's Filthy White Couch.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Taylor Swift puts on a show for.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Her London boys, Olivia Mathers is reunited with her Bengal
cat and keep It Clean as divisive TikTok strategy. But
first officially, Sophie, we are very excited Aunties.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We have been holding onto the news that Kate gave
birth for a week.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It was extremely hard to record this podcast without spilling
the tea. I feel like some listeners could have picked
up on a few things we.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Said last week that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
They feel like there are a few comments about babies,
like we had some sort of knowledge, well more knowledge
than you had the other week when you didn't realize
that baby's drunk meal.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yes, it's been an eye opening experience. I have learned
a lot so far.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But yes, Kate decided on the name Jack Edward, and
I don't think that pop cast listeners will be surprised
by that because she is one for a traditional name. Yeah,
so first name Jack, middle name Edward, last name Turner.
He does have the initials Jet, which is pretty cool.
That is literally why her husband agreed to the name,
because he's like, what cool initials like? Imagine if he's
(01:18):
a fantastic basketball player and he's speedy across the court
with the nickname Jet. Well, we want to allow Kate
to actually feel listeners in on the blow by blow,
probably in one of our subscriber episodes, potentially on Wednesday,
if she feels up to it. But I feel like
we need to feel listeners in from our point of view,
because yeah, she's taken like a duck to water to motherhood.
(01:39):
She is loving us. I said to her, Oh, is
it as bad as everyone makes it out to be?
And I mean, putting into perspective, it is weak one.
A lot of people say it takes two weeks for
the child to actually wake up and be.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Aware of where they are.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But she said that she's loving it so far, and
she's just loving getting to know her baby. He is
I know we're biased. He is the most or just
baby I have ever seen. Oh he's so cute, he
is adorable. Well, everyone says that when you're a first
time mom or dad, when you see the child, you
just instantly fall in love with the baby.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And I wondered what it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Would be like for you and I being aunties, not
officially the mother, but as soon officially well as in
Kate keeps saying that genetically we're actually very close to Jack.
But when I walked in and I saw him lying there,
I just felt this instant surge of love.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
My heart like it is. Yeah, my heart felt like
it burst when I saw him. He's just adorable.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was a little bit worried about how Kate's Golden
Retrievers would take to Jack.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
The other night we were over there and Kate and
Reese were changing Jack and he started to cry. And
the look on the dog's faces like they were shocked.
Your husband, Brandon, his face was even more shocked seeing
one Jack being changed and like the pool explosion and
then seeing him cry. It was actually so funny. I've
got a video of it. I almost wanted to put
(03:00):
on TikTok and entitle it. When two sets of.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Dinks see the reality of having a baby.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, that's because Jack is so placid and quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's just this perfect baby.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
He's happy, to be passed from person to person, like
he's so quiet, So it was the first time that
we saw.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Him really cry.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is quite funny because Kate did have a cesarean, so
we all knew when she was going to give birth.
So literally there were like eleven people in the waiting
room for Kate.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You could tell it was the first baby.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I think a lot of the the nurses there
were sort of like, what the hell is going on?
Because we consequently found out that not many people do this.
So we were waiting for her to be wheeled out
from into the recovery waiting.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They just told us to wait in this area, and
then we cottoned on quite quickly that they were wheeling
out a lot of the.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
People who had had caesareans.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So we managed to be in the right spot at
the right time when they were wheeling Kate and Jack
and Reese back through for observations, and oh my god,
it was the cutest thing I've ever seen. He was
just propped up on her just gave us the funniest
expression and Paul, Kate, though she just come out of surgery,
What the fuck is going on? Why are all of
these people looking at me. It was like she was
(04:15):
some celebrity who had been wheeled through. She wouldn't have
expected any less, like she knew how excited all of
the families were. This is the first grandchild for both
Reese's side and also her side, so I think he's
going to be a very spoiled little boy. Let us
know if you do want to hear her on an
episode of The Subs, because I think that she's really
keen to tell her birth story. Maybe put up a
(04:37):
question box that people can send in what they want
to know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Igat Perfect Perfect.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Purbat Perth influencer m Davies has set tongues wagging after
listing her filthy couch on Facebook marketplace for nine hundred dollars.
Super Sleeves uncovered the ad, which pictured a white linen
sofa covered with black stains. Now so some followers.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Were shocked by the state of the couch.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Look the couch wasn't looking its best, but em was
very honest in the ad about it. She didn't try
to conceal the marks, she did have them on full display.
In the description, she explained that the marks would come
out with professional cleaning. She is just months away from
giving birth. So you'd assume that she's getting rid of
this couch because she wants something that's a bit more
(05:22):
kid friendly. And this couch is already in a state
after adults sitting on it. I can't imagine what it
would look like after a kid got its sticky fingers
or vomit all over it. When I was looking for
a new couch, my husband was like, no, we can't
get white.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's just going to get ruined. And I'm always like, no, no,
it will look fine.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But I think this is the reality of actually having
a white couch. Well, my husband and I have a
white couch, but it sort of has flex of that
sandy color in it as well. But we just put
blankets over the top of it when we sit down
so that our dog doesn't get footprints on there, which
I suppose defeats the purpose of having a white couch.
She just looks so much chicer than gray couches. Yeah,
(06:02):
but this one is not looking very chic at the moment.
Do you think anyone will actually buy this? I mean,
could it be that there's an M. Davies follower out
there that wants the grimy couch? I don't think she's
that well enough known to have fans want to purchase
this couch just because it belonged to her. I'm guessing
that because she's pregnant, she probably couldn't be bothered to
(06:23):
go and get it cleaned herself, to just try and
get a couple of extra hundred dollars on Facebook marketplace.
Nine hundred dollars though for a second hand couch is
very expensive. It's the same with everything at the moment.
Everything is costing a fortune, yeah, but not on Facebook Marketplace.
I have noticed I have been looking for secondhand furniture
for my mother in law to do up because she's
(06:44):
amazing at upcycling furniture. And it is ridiculous how much
people are wanting at the moment. At least Emma's being
honest though, because I remember a few years ago, Sarah's
Day got heavily criticized when she advertised a rug which
retailed for eight hundred and forty nine dollars. So she
posted the item to her Instagram account and described it
as being basically brand new, And this was despite the
(07:07):
fact that most of her followers knew she had had
it for three years. Yeah, and she said it had
only briefly been used in her son's Foxes bedroom. It
was quite funny at the time because the media called
Sarah a cheapskate influencer and questioned why someone worth millions
of dollars was trying to get as much as she
could for a secondhand rug. So I do think that
(07:28):
em did the right thing in pointing out the marks
on this couch and also having those marks front and
center in the PHOTOO gold Co's influencer, Olivia Mathers, has
been reunited with her Bengal cat, more than two months
after it mysteriously disappeared. Sophie, can you bring listeners up
(07:51):
to speed?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Back in May, Olivia issued a desperate plea to anyone
with information about her Bengal cat, Hawky, who she said
had been stolen. Olivia believed that her neighbors had something
to do with the disappearance because they were the first
ones to raise the alarm. They told her that Hawky
had been dropped at the pound, So her neighbour's dad
(08:12):
allegedly found Hawky wandering and decided to drop the pedigree
cat at the pound, which doesn't make any sense now.
It was all very odd at the time, it was
very suspicious. Now, Olivia and her mum rushed down to
the pound to be told that no Bengal cat had
ever been there, and this led Olivia to confront her
neighbors via text. And this is where their story suddenly changed,
(08:35):
because the neighbor alleged that her dad actually went to
get the cat out of the car and it freaked
out and escaped. I think what made the disappearance so
suspicious was the fact that this is a pure bred
Bengal cat that went missing, and they are in such
high demand at the moment and can fetch upwards of
two thousand dollars. This was a story that really scared
(08:56):
a lot of pet owners because the thought that someone
could steal your cat and essentially we get away with
it is terrifying. Now Olivia ended up offering a cash
reward for anyone with verified information about the cat, and
she also enlisted a private investigator. Now on Friday, Olivia
shared the heartwarming news that Hawky was finally home. She wrote,
(09:18):
She's home after two helpless months. A beautiful couple not
far from home posted about a Bengal cat visiting frequently.
The photo was undeniably Hawky. We hit the ground running
over the last three days, walking the streets, staking out
the houses, clinging to New Hope. Tonight she followed our
voices and ran back to me. Turns out the lady
(09:38):
that spotted her was our KINDI teacher and the kind
of soul you can imagine, a heartwarming coincidence that made
the reunion so much more surreal. She then shared a
video of Hawky running into her arms and crying out
for her. Oh, this was really heartwarming because Hawky has
been weighing.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Heavily on my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I am a cat lover, and I just thought, Wow,
there's no that she's getting this cat back.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So what do you think actually happened.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do you think that the neighbors, if they did actually
take the cat, they've just let him loose.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It did lead to a lot of questions as to
whether Hawky was taken by the neighbors and then dumped nearby,
or did the cat run away. There is no cold
heart evidence to actually suggest the neighbors did anything, apart
from the bizarre text messages that Olivia was showing. I
just want to preface it, we don't actually have evidence
to say that they stole Hawky. Olivia hasn't shed any
(10:31):
more light on what she thinks happened. But Bengals are
known for having a bit of a wild side to them.
They are quite different to your average cat. So once
a Bengal gets a taste of the outdoors, they.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Are known for roaming. So it is unclear what has happened.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
He hasn't roamed for two months and not come home,
especially because he ran into her arms. There's obviously something
that's happened, and I think that Olivia doesn't want to
say any more. She's got her cat back. She doesn't
want to create any further fuss, and that's I suppose
the best outcome that could have happened.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
At Kick, We've got over one hundred and ten pilates
classes to kicks. TikTok strategy has been a hot topic
of conversation in our Facebook community. While some have praised
the fitness app founded by Steph Claire Smith and Laura
Henshaw for producing engaging content aimed at gen zetters, others
have labeled the strategy as a train wreck and the
videos as cringe. So for those who don't follow kicks
(11:29):
TikTok accounts. So what kind of videos are they posting. Look,
I'm not a gen Zetter, so maybe this isn't aimed
at me. But they're posting a lot of those trending
sound videos where they and their work colleagues mime to
a whole bunch of cringey sounds. And then they're doing
a lot of those transitional videos, and it's just really
finding a trend and then copying it or redoing the trend.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They're not really videos that are specific to them.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, it's clear that they're wanting to garner as many
views and new eyeballs as they can. Yeah, they're jumping
on a lot of trends and some people have said
it's cringe.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Do you think it's cringe?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The general vibe I get from these videos that it's
millennials who are trying to fit in with gen Zetters
and they're trying to jump on board these viral trends.
But I actually think a lot of gen Zetters would
roll their eyes at these videos. Yeah, but a lot
of their marketing team are gen Zetters, and that's where
the ideas are coming from. I actually think they're doing
a good job. They're obviously trying to target that market. Yeah,
(12:25):
but are they ostracizing their other audience because I did
read enough Facebook community that some people are rage viewing
these videos and that they're they're not saying that they're
rage baiting by sharage baiting, sorry, and it's probably leading
some people to unfollow the account. Stefan Laura have said
in previous interviews that ninety percent of their app downloads
(12:47):
are from organic channels, while their competitors rely heavily on
paid marketing. I mean, that's not particularly surprising considering that
Steph kles Smith has over one million followers, so it's
interesting to see if that is coming from their own
accounts or whether that is coming from Kick social media channels.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, I mean, if you look at Stephan Laura's followers,
the majority would be millennials. So it's clear they're trying
to push for this new wave of Kick subscribers with
this style of content. My fear though, is what these
kind of videos do for overall brandings. So while I
can see they're trying to appeal to the gen zs,
it does come across like they're chasing trends just to
get quick likes and views, and you don't get a
(13:26):
real sense of Laura and Steph's personalities, which I think
is a huge selling point for them. It's a hard
one because as a publicist, we do give advice on
social media and I have said to my clients in
the past that you have to have a completely different
content strategy for TikTok as you have to do for
Instagram or Facebook. However, in this case, I don't think
(13:46):
that these videos are meeting up with their overall brand
messaging and brand voice. I actually think it's doing the
more damage than good because, as we touched on, they
think that people think there's a lot of rage baiting
going on, which will lead people to unfollow. And I
understand that you're wanting to reach out to a new demographic,
(14:08):
but I actually don't think that these videos are successful
in doing that because I also think gen zs are
probably getting the ick from them. See I disagree with
you because I think if you look at a lot
of their new strategies, for instance, TikTok and even their
podcast come down to the fact that Kickers set its
sites on expanding globally, so they currently have a lot
of eyeballs on what they're doing, and there's would be
(14:29):
a lot of interest in how many followers they have
on TikTok, how many podcasts subscribers they have, So I
don't think they really care how they're getting people to
listen to them, whether it be on TikTok or on
their podcasts. I mean, they've copped flak in the past
before for sharing way too much information on their podcast,
but it's clearly working for them because Laura spoke to
(14:49):
The Financial Review last year about how they were testing
the UK market for capital raising, and she was open
about how she and Steph had traveled to the UK
to get a better feel for the market, and interestingly,
she said that their podcast, The Kickpod, had played a
major role in their UK expansion plans. So she said
the plan was to grow their UK listenership substantially, and
(15:12):
they were able to do this by interviewing well known
UK identities who then shared to their followers that they
were on the podcast, and in February they reported that
their subscriptions on their kickapp had gone up by nineteen percent.
So this incidental marketing through the Kickpod has actually resulted
in greater.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Revenue numbers for them on their app.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
One thing I think they do do very well is
the small reels and tiktoks that they produce from clips
of the podcast, because they're edited in such a way
that you're left wanting to find out more and you're
intrigued by the statement or question that they've put out there.
So I actually think that sort of content is great
for their brand, great for their key messaging, and it
(15:56):
positions Steph and Laura as fun businesssiness women, not necessarily
these cringe influences.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Who are jumping on every track.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yet. I think it's about having a mix of videos.
So they can have some of these cringe gen zetta
aimed videos, but they need to mix it, as you said,
with other kind of content. I mean a lot of
their businesses revolved around food. They share a lot of recipes,
they sell a lot of food in supermarkets. I would
be pushing for some more recipe videos. They're huge on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I think what's evident is that step and Laura are
smart and they know that they were able to launch
Kickback in twenty fifteen because of how popular they both
were on social media, so obviously TikTok is incredibly important
to them, and they will be looking at their numbers
very closely. I also wonder whether they're gearing up to
sell Kick, because it sounds like step and Laura are
(16:49):
making a conscious effort to step back from being one
hundred percent front facing when it comes to the Kick app.
So even in some of Kicks TikTok videos you'll see
stuff half members who are the focus, and Steph told
Forbes magazine in March this year that they are now
only in about twenty five percent of Kicks current content
on the app and it has not affected the completion
(17:10):
of workouts or engagement. I know when Kayla was gearing
up to sell the Sweat app, which she did subsequently
by back, there was a big push to bring in
other trainers to make it more appealing to potential buyers.
I know there is a view that it's risky to
buy a business that relies so heavily on the sole
branding of the founders. We saw Sam would sell his
(17:32):
app for seventy one million dollars a few years ago,
so they would be huge demand for an app like Kick.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, Laura told The Financial Review in January of twenty
twenty three that they know in order to build a
sustainable business that could scale globally, they need to diversify
the product away from them. So it's going to be
very interesting to see what the future holds for Kick
over the next couple of years. He kind of pointed
to Prince William and said something like, I hear you
(17:59):
like to do this at karaoke night. Karaoke Boy Taylor
Swift has stun fans on the London leg of her
Ears tour with a surprise performance by her NFL star
boyfriend Travis Kelce. Swifty's are dubbing the singer the Queen
of Revenge, with the move taking place on her ex's
home soil. This moment caught so many Swifties off guard.
(18:20):
No one was expecting Travis to make an appearance on stage,
and he has been known to take on the role
of the supportive boyfriend, being heavily praised for singing and
dancing in the crowd, which is in direct contrast to
her ex, Joe Olwen, who rarely came to any of
her shows and kept a very low profile. However, I
don't think that anyone was prepared to have him appear
(18:42):
on stage dressed in a top hat and tails as
a backup danswer, it just.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Didn't seem real. I saw it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Kate forward it to me because she has been up
in the early hours of the morning feeding little baby Jack,
and like, my jaw just hit the floor when I
opened it, I was like, no way.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
For those who haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
In the clip, Travis joins Taylor on stage for the
transition into her new hit.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Song I Can Do It with a Broken.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Heart, and this song is all about her being heartbroken
whilst on tour, so this was after her situationship Matt
Healey just ghosted her and the song coincidentally follows The
Smallest Man Who Ever Lived, which is also about Matt Healey.
By the end of the song, Taylor has collapsed on
the floor and her backup dancers have to scoop her
(19:28):
up and carry her onto a couch and they prop
her up like a puppet to get her change into
her next outfit, and she looks really terrified while they
have to encourage her to go on stage. So basically
Travis took on the role of one of these backup
dancers and it's so symbolic to have Travis there because
many fans say that he brought her back to life
(19:49):
and helped mend her broken heart. I saw a meme
on Instagram and it was one of those ones how
it started and how it's going now, and it was
comparing the fact that Travis less than a year ago
was making friendship bracelets to go to Taylor Swifts concert
and now he's literally performing in one of her biggest
songs and he has songs written about him.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Many fans actually thought that he was going up on
stage to propose to her. Sadly this didn't happen, but
many are thinking that this kind of stunt means that
a proposal isn't far away, because I mean, this is
soulmate sort of shit, Like you don't just bring up
some guy you're casually dating and putting on stage for
the rest of the world to see. I think that
(20:32):
an engagement is happening. Maybe it will happen on their
one year anniversary, which I mean, I don't think Travis
is ever going to propose in public or on stage.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It would be a private affair.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
But it's a huge move, as you said, for Taylor
to have Travis come up on stage. We haven't seen
something like this before with any of her other past boyfriends.
What I really love about this stunt is that it
cements that Taylor is the Queen of revenge. Even though
she is so famous and so popular, she's petty like
the rest of us because she has such a long
(21:03):
history with London. The city has been a huge part
of her life. Not only has she lived there and
recorded music there, but she's had several serious relationships with
London boys.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
So that's been Harry Styles, Tom.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Hitdleson, Joe Olwen and also Matt Heay, so it's quite
clear that she loves an English accent.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
She loves a London boy.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yes that song that we probably would never ever hear
live again. On her most recent album, she had a
song seemingly saying goodbye to London, But to me, it
seems like she is trying to reclaim this city and
make new memories there with Travis. And what a master
move is it to break up with Joe Olwen. Then
(21:41):
the next time you're in London you bring your new
golden retriever boyfriend that everyone's obsessed with up on stage
to prove that you can be Taylor Swist's boyfriend and
proudly support her. You might also have something to do
with the fact that Joe Olwen was recently interviewed by
The Sunday Times and it was the first time he's
actually out since his breakup with Taylor Swift. He didn't
(22:03):
say anything too juicy, but some people have been reading
into the timelines he discussed. Yeah, because people were reading
into it that the breakup happened only a week before
it was made public. So that was around June or
July last year, and Taylor's people were kind of trying
to put it out there saying that the breakup happened
(22:25):
months before, in February. Yeah, so there's some rumors going
around and people are saying, well, maybe there was potentially
a crossover with Matt Healey.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We don't know. All I know is whatever Taylor says.
I'm taking that on face value. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, Also, whilst in London, Taylor has gone Instagram official
with Travis.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean, everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Knows that they're official and that they're together, but this
is the first time she has posted about him, and
also the first time that she's posted about a boyfriend
in quite some time. I think the last boyfriend she
posted about was Calvin Harris.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
What does she post?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, this isn't your regular hard launch because it included
none other than two future Kings of England are the
Princess So Prince William celebrated his forty second birthday by
bringing Charlotte and George to the opening night of.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Taylor's Eras tour.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So it is quite clear that the Royal family are
big fans of Taylor Swift because on their official ex
account they posted a video of the British Army performing
a rendition of Taylor Swift shake it Off during the
changing of guards at Buckingham Palace.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Let's throw to a clip.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They captured the post Can't stop Won't Stop Grooving? This
is iconic from their social media team.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, their social media team does a really good job.
I've often thought, what must it be like to be
their videographer? Be pretty cool gig.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Not so surprisingly, Prince William and the kids didn't sit
in the VIP tent. They had their own private box,
but the IP tent has seen some action over the
past few days, with Sir Paul McCartney being spotted in there,
as well as Tom Cruise Ashen Kutcher, Millericunis, and Hugh Grant. Yeah,
and while Taylor doesn't always have time to do meet
(24:13):
and greets with famous fans before or after the shows,
as Travis Kelsey learned the hard way, she did make
an exception for the royal family, and many fans felt
like they'd stepped into some bizarre alternate universe. When William
posted a photo to his official Instagram account of him
and the kids with Taylor, he captured the photo thank
you Taylor Swift for a great evening, hashtag London ts
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the eras tour now. Shortly after, Taylor backed it up,
sharing a selfie with William, Charlotte George and also Travis
Kelcey and wrote happy b day mate. I must preface
that Taylor spelt mate in a very old school millennial
way with an M and eight, and she continued writing
London shows off to a splendid start and did an
(24:59):
English and American flag with a shaking hand emoji after it. Well,
when I saw the photo, at first, I thought, is
that a wax figure of Taylor Swift like?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It was very confused.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It was very Madame Tussard's looking in the photo. Taylor
was dressed in her black, sparkly blazer dress that she
wears during her performance of The Man, which is in
contrast to what she usually wears behind the scenes. She's
usually in her sparkly leotard. But I'm guessing that the
royal aides requested a more conservative outfit for her to
be around the royals in It reminds me of that
(25:32):
time the Princess Diana went to a Michael Jackson concert
and he's got a song Dirty Diana, and they specifically
removed it from the concert because they thought, oh, this
might be a bit awkward, And apparently Diana told Michael
Jackson after the show that she was really disappointed because
it was her favorite song. Prince William seemed to steal
the viral moment because he made a bit of a
spectacle of himself during.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Shake It Off.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
A fan panned up to capture William in the stands
and he was doing the daggiest day dance to Shake
it Off. He was dancing like nobody was watching him,
and it looked like he was having the time of
his life.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I was very happy for him. Yeah, I did enjoy
seeing that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I mean, he's been caught out a couple of times
dancing in a daggy fashion.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It is very Prince William. I just kept thinking the
whole time.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I wonder if Harry is really jealous, because in his
tell Or interview with Meghan Markele, he spoke about how
much he loved the Reputation album, especially Look What You
Made Me Do? And I just thought, oh, I would
have loved to have seen Harry backstage meeting her well.
Some fans have speculated that Taylor and William's posts were
throwing shade at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. So Meghan
(26:38):
has previously attended one of Taylor's LA shows, but she
didn't appear to be sitting in the VIP section and
there were no photos of her with Taylor after the performance. Now.
Taylor also allegedly declined to appear on Meghan's Archetypes podcast,
which led many to believe that she was taking sides
with the Royal family. I don't even think there's been
(26:59):
one podcast that Taylor Swift's been oh no, but I
think it's clear that Taylor would want to keep the
British Royal family happy. One Royal fan wrote on x
oh Man the shade to not only Meghan and Harry,
but also her ex London Boy Bravo, Taylor Swift and
Prince William, whilst another said you never saw Harry and
Meghan get that close to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Thank you for choosing the right side, Taylor.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
This is such a huge win for the royal family
because last year it was widely publicized that King Charles
struggled to get any homegrown acts to perform at the concert,
so he had reached out to Harry Styles and Dale,
Robbie Williams, Elton John and even the Spy Skirls and
they all reportedly refuse to be part of the ceremony.
So what you're saying is that when we finally have
(27:44):
a King William, there's going to be a pretty good concert.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Taylor Stiff would definitely be in attendance. I wonder if.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This is a new pr strategy from Prince William's team,
because since Kate Middleton made her first public appearance last
week amid her cancer battle, they appear to be sharing
more more behind the scenes styff photos which make the
family look more relatable and normal. So on the couple's
official Instagram account, they shared a very cute photo of
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William and the kids at the beach and William and
the kids mid air jumping over sand dunes. I mean
you even commented to me saying, I can't believe they're
allowed to share this photo.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, I was really surprised when I saw it. I
just kept thinking where did they land? Like on the sand?
Was that a heavy fall? I suppose because Kate is now.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
The official photographer for them, and it just makes him
look like a fun, hands on dad. I think it's
also been very clever because everyone is forgetting the narrative
that Prince Harry has built on William being this aggressive guy.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Who had a punch up with him. He's a Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, he's just loving daggy dad that's dancing in the crowd,
that loves jumping on sand dunes with his kids. That
is the recent pr push with Prince William, and with
Taylor Swift now seen to be endorsing him, it is
a major win for the British royal family.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Well, I think that's all we've got time for today.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
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There's a lot of baby spam going on at the moment,
and there is. This episode was recorded on the traditional
land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
We pay respect to elders past and present.
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
news twice a week. I'm Amy Torber and coming up
on today's show, m Davy's Filthy White Couch.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Taylor Swift puts on a show for.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Her London boys, Olivia Mathers is reunited with her Bengal
cat and keep It Clean as divisive TikTok strategy. But
first officially, Sophie, we are very excited Aunties.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We have been holding onto the news that Kate gave
birth for a week.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It was extremely hard to record this podcast without spilling
the tea. I feel like some listeners could have picked
up on a few things we.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Said last week that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
They feel like there are a few comments about babies,
like we had some sort of knowledge, well more knowledge
than you had the other week when you didn't realize
that baby's drunk meal.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yes, it's been an eye opening experience. I have learned
a lot so far.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But yes, Kate decided on the name Jack Edward, and
I don't think that pop cast listeners will be surprised
by that because she is one for a traditional name. Yeah,
so first name Jack, middle name Edward, last name Turner.
He does have the initials Jet, which is pretty cool.
That is literally why her husband agreed to the name,
because he's like, what cool initials like? Imagine if he's
(01:18):
a fantastic basketball player and he's speedy across the court
with the nickname Jet. Well, we want to allow Kate
to actually feel listeners in on the blow by blow,
probably in one of our subscriber episodes, potentially on Wednesday,
if she feels up to it. But I feel like
we need to feel listeners in from our point of view,
because yeah, she's taken like a duck to water to motherhood.
(01:39):
She is loving us. I said to her, Oh, is
it as bad as everyone makes it out to be?
And I mean, putting into perspective, it is weak one.
A lot of people say it takes two weeks for
the child to actually wake up and be.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Aware of where they are.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But she said that she's loving it so far, and
she's just loving getting to know her baby. He is
I know we're biased. He is the most or just
baby I have ever seen. Oh he's so cute, he
is adorable. Well, everyone says that when you're a first
time mom or dad, when you see the child, you
just instantly fall in love with the baby.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And I wondered what it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Would be like for you and I being aunties, not
officially the mother, but as soon officially well as in
Kate keeps saying that genetically we're actually very close to Jack.
But when I walked in and I saw him lying there,
I just felt this instant surge of love.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
My heart like it is. Yeah, my heart felt like
it burst when I saw him. He's just adorable.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was a little bit worried about how Kate's Golden
Retrievers would take to Jack.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
The other night we were over there and Kate and
Reese were changing Jack and he started to cry. And
the look on the dog's faces like they were shocked.
Your husband, Brandon, his face was even more shocked seeing
one Jack being changed and like the pool explosion and
then seeing him cry. It was actually so funny. I've
got a video of it. I almost wanted to put
(03:00):
on TikTok and entitle it. When two sets of.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Dinks see the reality of having a baby.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, that's because Jack is so placid and quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's just this perfect baby.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
He's happy, to be passed from person to person, like
he's so quiet, So it was the first time that
we saw.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Him really cry.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Is quite funny because Kate did have a cesarean, so
we all knew when she was going to give birth.
So literally there were like eleven people in the waiting
room for Kate.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You could tell it was the first baby.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I think a lot of the the nurses there
were sort of like, what the hell is going on?
Because we consequently found out that not many people do this.
So we were waiting for her to be wheeled out
from into the recovery waiting.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
They just told us to wait in this area, and
then we cottoned on quite quickly that they were wheeling
out a lot of the.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
People who had had caesareans.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So we managed to be in the right spot at
the right time when they were wheeling Kate and Jack
and Reese back through for observations, and oh my god,
it was the cutest thing I've ever seen. He was
just propped up on her just gave us the funniest
expression and Paul, Kate, though she just come out of surgery,
What the fuck is going on? Why are all of
these people looking at me. It was like she was
(04:15):
some celebrity who had been wheeled through. She wouldn't have
expected any less, like she knew how excited all of
the families were. This is the first grandchild for both
Reese's side and also her side, so I think he's
going to be a very spoiled little boy. Let us
know if you do want to hear her on an
episode of The Subs, because I think that she's really
keen to tell her birth story. Maybe put up a
(04:37):
question box that people can send in what they want
to know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Igat Perfect Perfect.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Purbat Perth influencer m Davies has set tongues wagging after
listing her filthy couch on Facebook marketplace for nine hundred dollars.
Super Sleeves uncovered the ad, which pictured a white linen
sofa covered with black stains. Now so some followers.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Were shocked by the state of the couch.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Look the couch wasn't looking its best, but em was
very honest in the ad about it. She didn't try
to conceal the marks, she did have them on full display.
In the description, she explained that the marks would come
out with professional cleaning. She is just months away from
giving birth. So you'd assume that she's getting rid of
this couch because she wants something that's a bit more
(05:22):
kid friendly. And this couch is already in a state
after adults sitting on it. I can't imagine what it
would look like after a kid got its sticky fingers
or vomit all over it. When I was looking for
a new couch, my husband was like, no, we can't
get white.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's just going to get ruined. And I'm always like, no, no,
it will look fine.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But I think this is the reality of actually having
a white couch. Well, my husband and I have a
white couch, but it sort of has flex of that
sandy color in it as well. But we just put
blankets over the top of it when we sit down
so that our dog doesn't get footprints on there, which
I suppose defeats the purpose of having a white couch.
She just looks so much chicer than gray couches. Yeah,
(06:02):
but this one is not looking very chic at the moment.
Do you think anyone will actually buy this? I mean,
could it be that there's an M. Davies follower out
there that wants the grimy couch? I don't think she's
that well enough known to have fans want to purchase
this couch just because it belonged to her. I'm guessing
that because she's pregnant, she probably couldn't be bothered to
(06:23):
go and get it cleaned herself, to just try and
get a couple of extra hundred dollars on Facebook marketplace.
Nine hundred dollars though for a second hand couch is
very expensive. It's the same with everything at the moment.
Everything is costing a fortune, yeah, but not on Facebook Marketplace.
I have noticed I have been looking for secondhand furniture
for my mother in law to do up because she's
(06:44):
amazing at upcycling furniture. And it is ridiculous how much
people are wanting at the moment. At least Emma's being
honest though, because I remember a few years ago, Sarah's
Day got heavily criticized when she advertised a rug which
retailed for eight hundred and forty nine dollars. So she
posted the item to her Instagram account and described it
as being basically brand new, And this was despite the
(07:07):
fact that most of her followers knew she had had
it for three years. Yeah, and she said it had
only briefly been used in her son's Foxes bedroom. It
was quite funny at the time because the media called
Sarah a cheapskate influencer and questioned why someone worth millions
of dollars was trying to get as much as she
could for a secondhand rug. So I do think that
(07:28):
em did the right thing in pointing out the marks
on this couch and also having those marks front and
center in the PHOTOO gold Co's influencer, Olivia Mathers, has
been reunited with her Bengal cat, more than two months
after it mysteriously disappeared. Sophie, can you bring listeners up
(07:51):
to speed?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Back in May, Olivia issued a desperate plea to anyone
with information about her Bengal cat, Hawky, who she said
had been stolen. Olivia believed that her neighbors had something
to do with the disappearance because they were the first
ones to raise the alarm. They told her that Hawky
had been dropped at the pound, So her neighbour's dad
(08:12):
allegedly found Hawky wandering and decided to drop the pedigree
cat at the pound, which doesn't make any sense now.
It was all very odd at the time, it was
very suspicious. Now, Olivia and her mum rushed down to
the pound to be told that no Bengal cat had
ever been there, and this led Olivia to confront her
neighbors via text. And this is where their story suddenly changed,
(08:35):
because the neighbor alleged that her dad actually went to
get the cat out of the car and it freaked
out and escaped. I think what made the disappearance so
suspicious was the fact that this is a pure bred
Bengal cat that went missing, and they are in such
high demand at the moment and can fetch upwards of
two thousand dollars. This was a story that really scared
(08:56):
a lot of pet owners because the thought that someone
could steal your cat and essentially we get away with
it is terrifying. Now Olivia ended up offering a cash
reward for anyone with verified information about the cat, and
she also enlisted a private investigator. Now on Friday, Olivia
shared the heartwarming news that Hawky was finally home. She wrote,
(09:18):
She's home after two helpless months. A beautiful couple not
far from home posted about a Bengal cat visiting frequently.
The photo was undeniably Hawky. We hit the ground running
over the last three days, walking the streets, staking out
the houses, clinging to New Hope. Tonight she followed our
voices and ran back to me. Turns out the lady
(09:38):
that spotted her was our KINDI teacher and the kind
of soul you can imagine, a heartwarming coincidence that made
the reunion so much more surreal. She then shared a
video of Hawky running into her arms and crying out
for her. Oh, this was really heartwarming because Hawky has
been weighing.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Heavily on my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I am a cat lover, and I just thought, Wow,
there's no that she's getting this cat back.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So what do you think actually happened.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do you think that the neighbors, if they did actually
take the cat, they've just let him loose.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It did lead to a lot of questions as to
whether Hawky was taken by the neighbors and then dumped nearby,
or did the cat run away. There is no cold
heart evidence to actually suggest the neighbors did anything, apart
from the bizarre text messages that Olivia was showing. I
just want to preface it, we don't actually have evidence
to say that they stole Hawky. Olivia hasn't shed any
(10:31):
more light on what she thinks happened. But Bengals are
known for having a bit of a wild side to them.
They are quite different to your average cat. So once
a Bengal gets a taste of the outdoors, they.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Are known for roaming. So it is unclear what has happened.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
He hasn't roamed for two months and not come home,
especially because he ran into her arms. There's obviously something
that's happened, and I think that Olivia doesn't want to
say any more. She's got her cat back. She doesn't
want to create any further fuss, and that's I suppose
the best outcome that could have happened.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
At Kick, We've got over one hundred and ten pilates
classes to kicks. TikTok strategy has been a hot topic
of conversation in our Facebook community. While some have praised
the fitness app founded by Steph Claire Smith and Laura
Henshaw for producing engaging content aimed at gen zetters, others
have labeled the strategy as a train wreck and the
videos as cringe. So for those who don't follow kicks
(11:29):
TikTok accounts. So what kind of videos are they posting. Look,
I'm not a gen Zetter, so maybe this isn't aimed
at me. But they're posting a lot of those trending
sound videos where they and their work colleagues mime to
a whole bunch of cringey sounds. And then they're doing
a lot of those transitional videos, and it's just really
finding a trend and then copying it or redoing the trend.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
They're not really videos that are specific to them.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes, it's clear that they're wanting to garner as many
views and new eyeballs as they can. Yeah, they're jumping
on a lot of trends and some people have said
it's cringe.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Do you think it's cringe?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The general vibe I get from these videos that it's
millennials who are trying to fit in with gen Zetters
and they're trying to jump on board these viral trends.
But I actually think a lot of gen Zetters would
roll their eyes at these videos. Yeah, but a lot
of their marketing team are gen Zetters, and that's where
the ideas are coming from. I actually think they're doing
a good job. They're obviously trying to target that market. Yeah,
(12:25):
but are they ostracizing their other audience because I did
read enough Facebook community that some people are rage viewing
these videos and that they're they're not saying that they're
rage baiting by sharage baiting, sorry, and it's probably leading
some people to unfollow the account. Stefan Laura have said
in previous interviews that ninety percent of their app downloads
(12:47):
are from organic channels, while their competitors rely heavily on
paid marketing. I mean, that's not particularly surprising considering that
Steph kles Smith has over one million followers, so it's
interesting to see if that is coming from their own
accounts or whether that is coming from Kick social media channels.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, I mean, if you look at Stephan Laura's followers,
the majority would be millennials. So it's clear they're trying
to push for this new wave of Kick subscribers with
this style of content. My fear though, is what these
kind of videos do for overall brandings. So while I
can see they're trying to appeal to the gen zs,
it does come across like they're chasing trends just to
get quick likes and views, and you don't get a
(13:26):
real sense of Laura and Steph's personalities, which I think
is a huge selling point for them. It's a hard
one because as a publicist, we do give advice on
social media and I have said to my clients in
the past that you have to have a completely different
content strategy for TikTok as you have to do for
Instagram or Facebook. However, in this case, I don't think
(13:46):
that these videos are meeting up with their overall brand
messaging and brand voice. I actually think it's doing the
more damage than good because, as we touched on, they
think that people think there's a lot of rage baiting
going on, which will lead people to unfollow. And I
understand that you're wanting to reach out to a new demographic,
(14:08):
but I actually don't think that these videos are successful
in doing that because I also think gen zs are
probably getting the ick from them. See I disagree with
you because I think if you look at a lot
of their new strategies, for instance, TikTok and even their
podcast come down to the fact that Kickers set its
sites on expanding globally, so they currently have a lot
of eyeballs on what they're doing, and there's would be
(14:29):
a lot of interest in how many followers they have
on TikTok, how many podcasts subscribers they have, So I
don't think they really care how they're getting people to
listen to them, whether it be on TikTok or on
their podcasts. I mean, they've copped flak in the past
before for sharing way too much information on their podcast,
but it's clearly working for them because Laura spoke to
(14:49):
The Financial Review last year about how they were testing
the UK market for capital raising, and she was open
about how she and Steph had traveled to the UK
to get a better feel for the market, and interestingly,
she said that their podcast, The Kickpod, had played a
major role in their UK expansion plans. So she said
the plan was to grow their UK listenership substantially, and
(15:12):
they were able to do this by interviewing well known
UK identities who then shared to their followers that they
were on the podcast, and in February they reported that
their subscriptions on their kickapp had gone up by nineteen percent.
So this incidental marketing through the Kickpod has actually resulted
in greater.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Revenue numbers for them on their app.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
One thing I think they do do very well is
the small reels and tiktoks that they produce from clips
of the podcast, because they're edited in such a way
that you're left wanting to find out more and you're
intrigued by the statement or question that they've put out there.
So I actually think that sort of content is great
for their brand, great for their key messaging, and it
(15:56):
positions Steph and Laura as fun businesssiness women, not necessarily
these cringe influences.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Who are jumping on every track.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yet. I think it's about having a mix of videos.
So they can have some of these cringe gen zetta
aimed videos, but they need to mix it, as you said,
with other kind of content. I mean a lot of
their businesses revolved around food. They share a lot of recipes,
they sell a lot of food in supermarkets. I would
be pushing for some more recipe videos. They're huge on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
At the moment.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I think what's evident is that step and Laura are
smart and they know that they were able to launch
Kickback in twenty fifteen because of how popular they both
were on social media, so obviously TikTok is incredibly important
to them, and they will be looking at their numbers
very closely. I also wonder whether they're gearing up to
sell Kick, because it sounds like step and Laura are
(16:49):
making a conscious effort to step back from being one
hundred percent front facing when it comes to the Kick app.
So even in some of Kicks TikTok videos you'll see
stuff half members who are the focus, and Steph told
Forbes magazine in March this year that they are now
only in about twenty five percent of Kicks current content
on the app and it has not affected the completion
(17:10):
of workouts or engagement. I know when Kayla was gearing
up to sell the Sweat app, which she did subsequently
by back, there was a big push to bring in
other trainers to make it more appealing to potential buyers.
I know there is a view that it's risky to
buy a business that relies so heavily on the sole
branding of the founders. We saw Sam would sell his
(17:32):
app for seventy one million dollars a few years ago,
so they would be huge demand for an app like Kick.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, Laura told The Financial Review in January of twenty
twenty three that they know in order to build a
sustainable business that could scale globally, they need to diversify
the product away from them. So it's going to be
very interesting to see what the future holds for Kick
over the next couple of years. He kind of pointed
to Prince William and said something like, I hear you
(17:59):
like to do this at karaoke night. Karaoke Boy Taylor
Swift has stun fans on the London leg of her
Ears tour with a surprise performance by her NFL star
boyfriend Travis Kelce. Swifty's are dubbing the singer the Queen
of Revenge, with the move taking place on her ex's
home soil. This moment caught so many Swifties off guard.
(18:20):
No one was expecting Travis to make an appearance on stage,
and he has been known to take on the role
of the supportive boyfriend, being heavily praised for singing and
dancing in the crowd, which is in direct contrast to
her ex, Joe Olwen, who rarely came to any of
her shows and kept a very low profile. However, I
don't think that anyone was prepared to have him appear
(18:42):
on stage dressed in a top hat and tails as
a backup danswer, it just.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Didn't seem real. I saw it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Kate forward it to me because she has been up
in the early hours of the morning feeding little baby Jack,
and like, my jaw just hit the floor when I
opened it, I was like, no way.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
For those who haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
In the clip, Travis joins Taylor on stage for the
transition into her new hit.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Song I Can Do It with a Broken.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Heart, and this song is all about her being heartbroken
whilst on tour, so this was after her situationship Matt
Healey just ghosted her and the song coincidentally follows The
Smallest Man Who Ever Lived, which is also about Matt Healey.
By the end of the song, Taylor has collapsed on
the floor and her backup dancers have to scoop her
(19:28):
up and carry her onto a couch and they prop
her up like a puppet to get her change into
her next outfit, and she looks really terrified while they
have to encourage her to go on stage. So basically
Travis took on the role of one of these backup
dancers and it's so symbolic to have Travis there because
many fans say that he brought her back to life
(19:49):
and helped mend her broken heart. I saw a meme
on Instagram and it was one of those ones how
it started and how it's going now, and it was
comparing the fact that Travis less than a year ago
was making friendship bracelets to go to Taylor Swifts concert
and now he's literally performing in one of her biggest
songs and he has songs written about him.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, it's just crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Many fans actually thought that he was going up on
stage to propose to her. Sadly this didn't happen, but
many are thinking that this kind of stunt means that
a proposal isn't far away, because I mean, this is
soulmate sort of shit, Like you don't just bring up
some guy you're casually dating and putting on stage for
the rest of the world to see. I think that
(20:32):
an engagement is happening. Maybe it will happen on their
one year anniversary, which I mean, I don't think Travis
is ever going to propose in public or on stage.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It would be a private affair.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
But it's a huge move, as you said, for Taylor
to have Travis come up on stage. We haven't seen
something like this before with any of her other past boyfriends.
What I really love about this stunt is that it
cements that Taylor is the Queen of revenge. Even though
she is so famous and so popular, she's petty like
the rest of us because she has such a long
(21:03):
history with London. The city has been a huge part
of her life. Not only has she lived there and
recorded music there, but she's had several serious relationships with
London boys.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
So that's been Harry Styles, Tom.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Hitdleson, Joe Olwen and also Matt Heay, so it's quite
clear that she loves an English accent.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
She loves a London boy.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yes that song that we probably would never ever hear
live again. On her most recent album, she had a
song seemingly saying goodbye to London, But to me, it
seems like she is trying to reclaim this city and
make new memories there with Travis. And what a master
move is it to break up with Joe Olwen. Then
(21:41):
the next time you're in London you bring your new
golden retriever boyfriend that everyone's obsessed with up on stage
to prove that you can be Taylor Swist's boyfriend and
proudly support her. You might also have something to do
with the fact that Joe Olwen was recently interviewed by
The Sunday Times and it was the first time he's
actually out since his breakup with Taylor Swift. He didn't
(22:03):
say anything too juicy, but some people have been reading
into the timelines he discussed. Yeah, because people were reading
into it that the breakup happened only a week before
it was made public. So that was around June or
July last year, and Taylor's people were kind of trying
to put it out there saying that the breakup happened
(22:25):
months before, in February. Yeah, so there's some rumors going
around and people are saying, well, maybe there was potentially
a crossover with Matt Healey.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We don't know. All I know is whatever Taylor says.
I'm taking that on face value. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, Also, whilst in London, Taylor has gone Instagram official
with Travis.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean, everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Knows that they're official and that they're together, but this
is the first time she has posted about him, and
also the first time that she's posted about a boyfriend
in quite some time. I think the last boyfriend she
posted about was Calvin Harris.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
What does she post?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, this isn't your regular hard launch because it included
none other than two future Kings of England are the
Princess So Prince William celebrated his forty second birthday by
bringing Charlotte and George to the opening night of.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Taylor's Eras tour.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So it is quite clear that the Royal family are
big fans of Taylor Swift because on their official ex
account they posted a video of the British Army performing
a rendition of Taylor Swift shake it Off during the
changing of guards at Buckingham Palace.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Let's throw to a clip.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They captured the post Can't stop Won't Stop Grooving? This
is iconic from their social media team.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, their social media team does a really good job.
I've often thought, what must it be like to be
their videographer? Be pretty cool gig.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Not so surprisingly, Prince William and the kids didn't sit
in the VIP tent. They had their own private box,
but the IP tent has seen some action over the
past few days, with Sir Paul McCartney being spotted in there,
as well as Tom Cruise Ashen Kutcher, Millericunis, and Hugh Grant. Yeah,
and while Taylor doesn't always have time to do meet
(24:13):
and greets with famous fans before or after the shows,
as Travis Kelsey learned the hard way, she did make
an exception for the royal family, and many fans felt
like they'd stepped into some bizarre alternate universe. When William
posted a photo to his official Instagram account of him
and the kids with Taylor, he captured the photo thank
you Taylor Swift for a great evening, hashtag London ts
(24:37):
the eras tour now. Shortly after, Taylor backed it up,
sharing a selfie with William, Charlotte George and also Travis
Kelcey and wrote happy b day mate. I must preface
that Taylor spelt mate in a very old school millennial
way with an M and eight, and she continued writing
London shows off to a splendid start and did an
(24:59):
English and American flag with a shaking hand emoji after it. Well,
when I saw the photo, at first, I thought, is
that a wax figure of Taylor Swift like?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It was very confused.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It was very Madame Tussard's looking in the photo. Taylor
was dressed in her black, sparkly blazer dress that she
wears during her performance of The Man, which is in
contrast to what she usually wears behind the scenes. She's
usually in her sparkly leotard. But I'm guessing that the
royal aides requested a more conservative outfit for her to
be around the royals in It reminds me of that
(25:32):
time the Princess Diana went to a Michael Jackson concert
and he's got a song Dirty Diana, and they specifically
removed it from the concert because they thought, oh, this
might be a bit awkward, And apparently Diana told Michael
Jackson after the show that she was really disappointed because
it was her favorite song. Prince William seemed to steal
the viral moment because he made a bit of a
spectacle of himself during.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Shake It Off.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
A fan panned up to capture William in the stands
and he was doing the daggiest day dance to Shake
it Off. He was dancing like nobody was watching him,
and it looked like he was having the time of
his life.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I was very happy for him. Yeah, I did enjoy
seeing that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I mean, he's been caught out a couple of times
dancing in a daggy fashion.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It is very Prince William. I just kept thinking the
whole time.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I wonder if Harry is really jealous, because in his
tell Or interview with Meghan Markele, he spoke about how
much he loved the Reputation album, especially Look What You
Made Me Do? And I just thought, oh, I would
have loved to have seen Harry backstage meeting her well.
Some fans have speculated that Taylor and William's posts were
throwing shade at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. So Meghan
(26:38):
has previously attended one of Taylor's LA shows, but she
didn't appear to be sitting in the VIP section and
there were no photos of her with Taylor after the performance. Now.
Taylor also allegedly declined to appear on Meghan's Archetypes podcast,
which led many to believe that she was taking sides
with the Royal family. I don't even think there's been
(26:59):
one podcast that Taylor Swift's been oh no, but I
think it's clear that Taylor would want to keep the
British Royal family happy. One Royal fan wrote on x
oh Man the shade to not only Meghan and Harry,
but also her ex London Boy Bravo, Taylor Swift and
Prince William, whilst another said you never saw Harry and
Meghan get that close to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Thank you for choosing the right side, Taylor.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
This is such a huge win for the royal family
because last year it was widely publicized that King Charles
struggled to get any homegrown acts to perform at the concert,
so he had reached out to Harry Styles and Dale,
Robbie Williams, Elton John and even the Spy Skirls and
they all reportedly refuse to be part of the ceremony.
So what you're saying is that when we finally have
(27:44):
a King William, there's going to be a pretty good concert.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Taylor Stiff would definitely be in attendance. I wonder if.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This is a new pr strategy from Prince William's team,
because since Kate Middleton made her first public appearance last
week amid her cancer battle, they appear to be sharing
more more behind the scenes styff photos which make the
family look more relatable and normal. So on the couple's
official Instagram account, they shared a very cute photo of
(28:10):
William and the kids at the beach and William and
the kids mid air jumping over sand dunes. I mean
you even commented to me saying, I can't believe they're
allowed to share this photo.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, I was really surprised when I saw it. I
just kept thinking where did they land? Like on the sand?
Was that a heavy fall? I suppose because Kate is now.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
The official photographer for them, and it just makes him
look like a fun, hands on dad. I think it's
also been very clever because everyone is forgetting the narrative
that Prince Harry has built on William being this aggressive guy.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Who had a punch up with him. He's a Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, he's just loving daggy dad that's dancing in the crowd,
that loves jumping on sand dunes with his kids. That
is the recent pr push with Prince William, and with
Taylor Swift now seen to be endorsing him, it is
a major win for the British royal family.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Well, I think that's all we've got time for today.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
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and there is. This episode was recorded on the traditional
land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
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