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A Sydney woman has been charged after pretending to be a doctor on TikTok. Dayla Karezi was fined $13,300 by a magistrates court for the offence.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Coming up on today's show, a Sydney woman is charged
after pretending.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
To be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
On TikTok has Olivia Rodgers reunited with her old flame
Sarah's Day's holiday Blunder, and is book talk turning reading
into a competitive sport. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's
your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news
twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert, and I always love
hearing what people's weird food combos are. Usually they've grown
(00:32):
up eating it so they don't even realize it's weird
until someone points it out. Yeah, people's parents have a
lot to answer for with this one. Well, this week,
Anna Paul has shared her interesting breakfast combo.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Let's throw to what she said.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Okay, so I go straight to the bread section. I
skip the chocolate fountain as tempting as it looks, and
I toast that shit. Okay. Then I get Apricot jam, which,
by the way, it is the best jam ever. When
you're young, like the Bury ones are the best, and
then when you mature you realize you're wrong and Apricott
is the best gem flavor. And then you put egg
yolk on there trust me, I made everybody taste my
(01:05):
favorite combination, and they were all jealous, even though they
got steak and they got that good breakfast. Trust me.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Egg yolk on apricot jem hit.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
This made me feel so ill because I'm not a
big egg person, particularly runny egg yolks. I think the
egg yolk is the best part, but I don't know
how well it goes with apricot jam. A friend of
mine swears by toes with apricot jam and a piece
of pineapple on top.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
In regards to egg, I feel like I really have
to psych myself up to eat egg, because once I
get a whiff of cooked egg on a plate, it
just sends me over there. We apparently have very sensitive noses,
because if an egg has been anywhere near any of
like the washing up, I can smell it on glasses
and plates. Yeah, Ole Dale, he loves having egg on pizza.
(01:51):
So if we go out to a rest and he'll say, yeah,
can you have an egg yolk on the pizza, Yeah,
that grosses me out. I do agree with Anna on
the terms of apricot jam being the number one jam
I have loved it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think we should try it and Apoul's weird food Combo.
I think we should.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Also put a thread in the group asking for people
to share their family food combos, because I feel like
every family has an unusual one, and if you want
to see us testing them out, make sure you are
following out spoken on TikTok and on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Double two is like you can maybe go somewhere that's
a little bit more established.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We're at least not embarrassed about how we look. There's
something going viral in Korea that I want to talk
to you guys about. So it's a rating scale of
the different levels of getting ready for an event. So
it's the perfect way that you can ensure with your
friends that you've got to meet up and there's not
a huge discrepancy about what you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because we do this.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Quite often when we're catching up with friends. I'll put
the message in the group and say, what's the vibe tonight?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Is it active where?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Which that might sound shocking to people living in Sydney
and Melbourne, but quite often, if you're going out to
just a sort of takeaway store or you know, kind
of a crummy restaurant, dumpy restaurant, restaurant you can get.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Away with wearing active work.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah. Well, this rating scale has four different levels. So
the first level is a completely bare face with no
makeup and trackies. And with this level you literally have
put no effort in. Essentially you could have rolled out
of bed and the TikToker advised that this is usually
a sort of catch up when you're just getting a
quick coffee, but you're not staying around for a while.
(03:23):
You're literally heading home as soon as you finish your coffee.
I think this level is only really for very close friends,
like your best friend. For me personally, I would never
wear this level if I was going and meeting with
someone new or someone i'd only hung out with a
few times. I feel like sunglasses are a necessity for
this level as well.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh you say this.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
We put up with a friend over the weekend and
you'd had a late night and you rocked up. Literally
it looked like you're wearing a disguise. You're wearing one
of those two black puffy jackets with I don't rate
your glasses no offense, but these like dark glasses and
a black hat.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I was like, are you going to take them off inside?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, I had huge bags onto my eye I think.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Anyway, before you guys break out into a fight.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The second level is that you add concealer and you
put on a pair of nicer trackies, maybe even activewear,
and in this instance, you are allowed to go somewhere
more established because it's not completely.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Embarrassing how you look. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Level three is putting enough makeup on and picking a
decent outfit that you would actually be happy to appear
in an Instagram story. So let me stress you wouldn't
share the picture on your feed, but it's okay to'll
be on the story for twenty four hours. I love
that different classification for me. I feel like our level
three is messaging a friend saying, are you putting on
jeans and a nice top? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Really?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Level four is your top level and this is where
your makeup and outfit are on point. It is described
as you are going to slay, and this is a
time when you are going out purposely to take photos
for your Instagram feed. Side note, I hate the use
of the word sleigh. I think it is becoming so
overused and I think it is easy to identify if
(05:02):
someone is a gen Zetter or a millennial by the
use of.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The word sligh.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, that's why I chose to quote it rather than
putting it in my own words, because if I said, oh,
this is when your outfit as a sligh, I think
people would know that's not really me. I can't remember
the last time I've been at a Level four, if
I'm being honest, I think since COVID.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
For COVID, yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Since COVID, not many people are going to the level
four unless you're actually going to, say a wedding or
a birthday party.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
For me, a level four would only be a very
formal event. And I feel like a lot of people's
posting habits on social media have changed since the pandemic,
because really, I'm only posting now if I've got full makeup,
I've got hair extensions in, and I'm wearing something nice, which.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You're terrible on my feet, do you know what's terrible?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Though? Sometimes I feel worse when i'm a Level four
because I'm like, this is the best I can look,
and then you get the photos back and you're still
not happy with it. Yeah, or when you're a level
four and You've gone to all of this effort and
you go out somewhere and you don't even get a photo. Yeah,
oh that kills me because I'm like, I actually nice,
I put some effort in.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I generally go.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
About my day to day business as a level two,
so I'm not someone that likes to be seen without
makeup on. So I could never go out as a
level one. That's just my own personal insecurity. But these
days I can't get out of my active wear, Like
I will literally wear leggings to a restaurant and try
and dress it up with a coat or a woolen.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Think your theory is that no one when you're sitting
down can see your legs, which is getting terrible. It's
i mean, the zoom theory. Okay, even I put jeans.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Onto, but I like wearing jeans at a restaurant because
you're eating. I don't like to have, you know, tightness around.
The Thing that shit about jeans at the moment is
they're so oversized that it's really difficult to find out
what shoes you're gonna wear, particularly in winter when you're
like I don't want to have bare feet, or I
have a lot of oversized jumpers like the Woolen jumpers,
which are nice, but they don't look good with my
baggy jeans. What level is it that when you're at
(06:54):
a restaurant wearing jeans and it is feeling a bit tight,
so you unbuckle the top button.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What level would you say that?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, I think that's you're giving up on life.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I've seen that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I think people get their hair tied and they extend it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I think that's what people do materially.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's very sad amy because you often do that at
a restaurant. God, these people are probably getting this hideous
view of us at restaurants. I actually do make a
bit of an effort when I go out. I don't
think that's sad at all, because I think that is
just a reflection on women's fashion, because I never see
men having to do that, and I think it's because
women's jeans are so uncomfortable. It's funny I was thinking
about that. Then there really isn't much variation in levels
(07:31):
for what men wear, because they can throw on a
T shirt and a jumper and they can go anywhere.
But then I suppose the leveled up version is wearing
a suit. But don't you think it's weird? Again, just
thinking about men's and women's jeans, men seem to be able.
And I don't want to make this as a sweeping generalization,
but my partner will wear jeans like to relax in.
He'll be on the couch, Like We'll get home from
(07:52):
a restaurant and I'll be straight in the room getting
into my pajamas and he'll be sitting on the couch
for the rest of the night in jeans.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's weird. Dale does that too, does Brandon. No, he
can't stand wearing jeans.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I would say a level one for a man is
wearing gray tracksuit pants. Oh I hate gray tracksuit pants,
particularly if they're wearing a matching gray top as well.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They look like an astronaut. Doesn't leave much the imagination either.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Look, I love being a mom, I love being a wife.
But I will be lying if I said I wasn't
counting down the days till this weekend. Sarah's Day almost
left her family holiday to Fiji a day early. The
Finnest influencer was packed and ready to go. It was
only when she checked her flight status that she realized
it was scheduled to leave the next day. This was
a little bit embarrassing because all week long they thought
(08:36):
they were heading home on the Thursday, but it was
actually on the Friday, and she kept making a big
deal about how it was her last day in Fiji
and she was enjoying the last afternoon on the balcony.
I feel like the post holiday blues really settle in
on the last day of the trip, and I almost
can't enjoy myself on the last day of the trip
because I'm already mentally going through what I've got a pack.
You know, what's the day at the airport going to
(08:58):
be like. So she has said here that the silver
lining out of this situation is that, according to Girl Math,
they have an extra night's accommodation for free and a
day in Fiji for free. I actually disagree. I think
that she's been discounted heavily in Girlmoth, because I think
that's two wasted days, because you've got two days of misery,
because there's nothing worse than having to pack and then
you're spending the night there, so you have to really unpack.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And repack again.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But also when you've got children, it'd be really difficult
to explain to them, hey, actually we do have another
day here, because it would be a real thing of
trying to mentally prepare them for the day ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm weird when I'm on holiday.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I love to actually pack my bags ahead of time,
like just randomly, five days in I'll start packing my
bag to see how all my new purchases fit in.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, that's a shopping holiday though.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So for our first holiday away from our parents, we
went to Malaysia and we were there for three weeks,
which I think was a little bit too long because
we had so many mock packs because we didn't have
our parents there controlling what we were purchasing. So we
ended up with like fifty four handbags and twenty six
pairs of shoes between.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So it was actually essential to do the mock pack.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I don't think it was out of enjoyment. I think
it was out of necessity because we could determine how
many bags or things we could buy that night. And
that's when you have a disposable income and you've got
nothing to pay for a home you're living with your parents.
It didn't work out to be that clever though, because
even though we did so many mock packs. We were
so over and we're going to be charged like five
hundred dollars for excess baggage, but we ended up beating
(10:25):
that by just putting on all the extra clothes on
in the airport and never got charged.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I love that we Back.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
In the day we bought like fifty four handbags and
twenty six pairs of shoes, and now we can't even
be bothered to wear jeans out to the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Today. It is the melb Marathon. I'm having my black coffee.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It is quarterbast six. The run is at eight am,
so get dressed with me. There has been so much
speculation around this romance, but it does appear that Olivia
Rodgers and Morgan water House are back on. So the
former Miss Universe shared a selfie with the model to
her Instagram account after a two month hiatus. Now we
(11:02):
have not seen this couple together since their extravagant month
fog holiday in Bali in August that they extensively documented. Yeah,
I was pretty surprised when this selfie popped up on
Olivia's Instagram. So the selfie in question was taken after
Olivia and Morgan completed a half marathon in Melbourne and
Morgan had been teasing that Olivia was with him. He
(11:23):
shared the back of her running in front of him
towards the finish line on his stories and they also
posted recovering and compression boots, so you could put.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Two and two together.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
One super sleuth did send into Influence updates that they
checked out on the Herald Son's website the times that
the marathon runners finished, and basically Morgan Waterhouse and Olivia
their times were exactly the same, so it showed that
they ran it completely in Unison. It's pretty funny because
someone's also done a stalk of Getty images and they've
(11:53):
come across a photo of Olivia and Morgan side by
side running at the marathon.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I love the investigation that has gone in this. I
think there has been so.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Much speculation because it just seems weird because out of nowhere,
we were seeing all the ins and outs of their relationship,
this very blossoming relationship, so very quick.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, and then for two months we've seen nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And do you think that's the reason why Olivia did
end up sharing a photo of her and Morgan to
her Instagram story because there were so many clues that
they were together. I won day if she was trying
to friend zone him in a way, because it wasn't
just a photo of them together. There was another friend
in the photo. Yeah, I was initially confused by the photo.
I didn't think that it necessarily signified they were back
(12:32):
together because there was a third person in the photo
and that was only shared on an Instagram story. It
wasn't shared in her feed, and she did post about
the marathon on her feed, so it is interesting she
chose to leave that photo out. I feel like Morgan
is trying to make himself known though, because he is
commenting on her feed again. He wrote, proud of you
for pushing through, and earlier in the week he did
(12:55):
comment on Olivia's reel and in the video she was
packing clothes to donate to the Red Cross, he wrote,
that's where my coat went. It is interesting timing, particularly
because her ex husband Justin has been amping up his
relationship with Tarny from The Bachelor. I saw over the
weekend that Tany shared a photo again with their dog
(13:16):
Ziggy cuddling up to him, and again that would just
irritate me so much. I just want to know what
is going on with Olivia and Morgan, and I know
that's very nosey of me, but they did make their
relationships so public so early. Welcome back to books snipping.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's time to snip another book and give it a reading.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, this one's got a really nice It's kind of faint,
but it does have that really nice vanilla smell.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I love it when books smell did.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Books are back in a big way thanks to TikTok,
a subcommunity called book talk is transforming the reading landscape,
with books becoming the hottest accessory for genzettas and millennials.
But is BookTalk sucking the joy out of reading? Some
corners of the internet say that it's pre shuring young
people to treat reading like a competitive sport. I can't
get over how cool reading is at the moment. Always
(14:06):
on my feet. I'm seeing young girls meeting up in
bookshops or basically going there to add to their collection.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I also see people sniffing books a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, it's so weird because now that I think about it,
I do like the smell of a new book. But
I've never thought to go to my bookshelf and just
start sniffing them. What are they meant to be smelling like?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
A book's supposed to smell different.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, one influencer I follow she has to sniff a
book before she purchases it to make.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Sure that it smells right.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's almost as though you get the tick of approval
if it smells like a good book.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean, why you read the blurb instead? That might
be a better way, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
There's this snobbery also around having a physical book as
opposed to a kindle or even goodness of it listening
to a.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Book on Audible.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I love listening to books on Audible because you can
multitask at the same time. I have seen this trend though,
of people listening to a book on Audible or reading
on a kindle and then buying the physical so they
can kind of parade the book around and have it
on their shelf and be like, oh, I read that,
Look at how think it is. I know, I feel
like there's a bit of a dick measuring competition around,
(15:09):
as you said, the thickness of a book. I've seen
a few influences and they'll be talking about the book,
but they can't stop showing it and flicking through the
page and saying how great it is that I've actually
read through this. It kind of cracks me up because
can you imagine if people were like this year, I
actually watched a thousand episodes of Real Housewives, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely think there's a lot of currency
in how many books you've read as well, and also
the genre of books that you're reading. You only have
to think of the start of the year when every
influencer was reading the same Colleen Hoover book, and it
sounds like we're being negative towards it, but I actually
think it's fantastic. I'm glad that books are the new
cool accessory because I loved reading growing up, but being
(15:49):
an adult, I have found it really difficult to get
back into it and find time. And I do like
seeing people reading on my Instagram or TikTok because it
does motivate me to get back into it. Yeah, I mean,
it is fantastic, But there are some critics who are
saying that book talks very wholesome. Online community is now
being fueled by competitiveness, so there's a lot of readers
(16:10):
who are saying that they're feeling pressure to read books
faster and to also splurge on books so that they
can do all these book calls on TikTok, And there
is this really unspoken snobbery when it comes to reading
a book, because if you are known as being someone
who's into books, there's this assumption that you're more knowledgeable
or you're.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Very articulate with things.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And it does have this new currency online, which is
a good thing because people are obviously trying to be
better educated and better read. But when you're feeling a
pressure to read a book that you're quickly flicking through
the pages, you're scanning it, then I don't think it's
you're actually immersing yourself in the book and doing it
as a relaxation. I just got caf day night in
(16:52):
my head from Pathing Kim when she was doing the
speed reading. I saw Sophie Jane Miller's log the other day,
and I have to say, I really do enjoy her content.
And she did this whole vlog about how many books
she'd read that week. But I couldn't help laugh because
it actually seemed like it was almost a full time
job to get through these books. Because she has set
herself the challenge. I think it's a reading one hundred
books this year, and it almost like the pressure I
(17:15):
could see she felt was into reading two books in
a week.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
There is one book toker called Jack Ben Edwards and
he's known as the Internet's resident librarian and last year
he read one hundred and ninety two books, so that's
more than three books a week. And Amy, You touched
on Sophie Jane Miller just yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
She shared a real.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
About the Panic years, about how the twenties are the
Panic years, and she touched on her obsession with reading,
and in the video she said that I feel a
panic to constantly self improve to read more books, until
reading books becomes more of a chort than a hobby
that you do just to tick off your to do list.
I did get that vibe in her vlog that there
was this pressure to keep reading. And it does seem
(18:00):
a little bit competitive because she has got a book
club with another influencer called Georgia Richards and some other friends,
and it just seems like books are now all that
that friendship group talks about so pop in a nice way.
I'm not, but I guess that if you're not reading
the book, then you might not be in on the chat.
But for them, they're clearly trying to move their brand
towards book talk. So for them, because they work as
(18:22):
full time content creators, that is working for them. So
there is that pressure that they must be constantly reviewing
books for.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Their TikTok or for their YouTube.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's funny because when you compare book talk to say,
fitness influencing, it seems so wholesome. But there is an
ugly side to BookTalk where slow readers are being judged
for simply not reading enough. So there was a twenty
three year old content creator called Nicole, and she went
viral recently because she posted a video defending slow readers.
So in the video, Nicole said reading is not a
(18:54):
competitive sport, even though this silly little app makes us
think it is. She continued, I've always felt I couldn't
make bookish videos as I read too slow. And I
feel like I couldn't love reading as much as I
thought I did because I was a slow reader. And
it's pretty sad. Because she was interviewed by an online
publication and she said that book talk was really intimidating
because there is this huge emphasis on the amount of
(19:16):
books you read, own and buy. And she continued saying,
the lifestyle of reading hundreds of books a year and
buying fifty books a month is unattainable for the average person.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Books are expensive, and if you're in your teenage years
or early twenties and you're trying to keep up with
all of the cool new books that are coming out,
you can go through your money pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I have to laugh when you said that, because so
many parents would be like, sure, here's fifty dollars, please
just read something.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
What cracks me up is that it seems like a
very that girl thing to be into books at the moment,
and there must be these really confused boyfriends coming home
finding their girlfriends on their aesthetically pleasing white couch just
suddenly reading all these books. There is a content creator
who is sharing her tips on how to read books quicker,
and she said basically that you need to stop sub vocalizing,
(20:02):
so stop reading the book in your head. I don't
quite understand how that works. She also said to skim
read and to chunk the words together, and to use
your fingers to raise the line of the text a
bit like kath As you were saying earlier, it's so unpleasant.
Isn't the whole point of reading a book to actually
enjoy it and to understand the plot? Because if you're
reading one hundred books a year, aren't you forgetting most
(20:23):
of the ones that you've read? Well? Another tip from
creators has been to make sure that you pick slimmer
books so that you can get your book count up quicker,
which I just found so funny because Spott goes to
the it's just showing that it's about the quantity, not
the quality.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Look, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't like the idea of people being pressed and
feeling bad because they're slow readers, but I think that
the positives outweigh the negatives. This is a fantastic trend.
If girls in their twenties are wanting to read a
lot of books rather than thrashing their bodies at the
gym or promoting unhealthy diets on YouTube, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm terribly so we hadn't been told your adopt how'd
you do? A doctor? Very nice to have you with
the doctor.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Amfield, a Sydney woman, has been charged with impersonating a
health practitioner on TikTok. Dala Krezi was fined thirteen three
hundred dollars by a magistrate's court for the offense, which
can carry a maximum penalty of sixty thousand dollars and
jail time. The thirty year old attracted two hundred and
forty three thousand followers under the handle doctor Kurezi. Between
(21:28):
twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one. She posted fifty six
videos where she shared unqualified medical advice on topics like
ovarian cancer, HIV and fertility issues. Now those videos have
attracted one point five million likes and fifteen point one
million views. Despite having no medical qualifications, Kurezy don scrubs
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and a stethoscope while she handed out the medical advice.
That is so shocking and it just shows that you
shouldn't actually follow everything you see online. It's pretty scary
to think that people just instantly trusted her because she
had a steposcope on TikTok. The most disturbing part is
that Korezi even partner with the New South Wales Cancer
Institute on public health awareness campaigns and also gained employment
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as a project coordinator at New South Wales Health's Multicultural
health Communication Service shows having a large amount of followers
was really enough social proof for those big organizations to
actually trust it. On a smaller level, when I apply
for a job, I don't think anyone has ever asked
me to take a photo or send through a picture
of my degree. I understand it is different in medicine
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with different licenses and stuff, but this is very appalling
that it's gone this far. See, there have been a
few times where I have had to provide my academic
transcript for government jobs, but it isn't a normal thing
that you have to do all the time. Now, Karezi's
defense barrister said his client had an underlying psychological fragility
which made it difficult for her to say no in
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social situations. So the story goes that while Korezy studying
a bachelor's degree in health science, she met someone who
believed that she was studying medicine, so she.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Just went with it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So the defense also claimed that the information Carezy shared
on TikTok was based on facts that she had researched.
Wow Now, the prosecutor refuted these claims and said that
the fifty six posts that Crazy made over a sixteen
month period went far beyond it's simply being unable to
say no, and during the sentencing, the magistrate labeled the
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offenses as extensive, prolific, and pervasive.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's pretty scary.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
When you consider TikTok is the new Google search, and
there would be a lot of young people using the
platform to self diagnose. And you've got people on there
pretending to be doctors and talking about really important issues.
And many of us do seem to trust the internet
with our health. I mean, I am very guilty of
always googling my symptoms. It really shows that you just
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need to go to your own local doctor and not
search these things online.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Are we really surprised about this?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I mean, you see how many fitness and health influences
there are that are just spreading medical misinformation online. And
they might not have a stethoscope. They've just got six
pack abs to sort of prove their relevant. But it's
different to pretend to be a doctor, I think, rather
than pretending to be a qualified personal trainer. I wonder
how she was found out where the people that knew
her that were like, wait a second, she need not
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be easier In that one instance where someone accidentally thought
that you were the doctor and so that you just
said sorry, no, actually i'm studying. This was actually your
connection with New South Wales's health. So they were like,
hang on, she hasn't got any qualification. So a joint
AFRA and Medical Board of Australia investigation was launched.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
How embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The whole thing is really embarrassing, and it just shows
that you've really got to be checking people's qualifications or
also just don't use TikTok to diagnose yourself with medical conditions,
because a new study has revealed just how common unverified
information is on TikTok. So the study looks specifically at
TikTok posts about liver disease and found forty percent of
videos contained medical misinformation. What cracks me up is when
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I was working as a reporter, we used to tell
the doctors that, yeah, can you go on camera in
a white coat and a stethoscope because it just makes
it so much more believable to the viewer. Social proofing, Yeah,
it is social proofing, And obviously we've grown up seeing
doctors look a specific way, so we're just so willing
to believe that anyone in a white coat is a doctor,
yet when I go to my GP, they're just wearing
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casual clothes. Well, I suppose it is encouraging that this
woman has been named and shamed, because hopefully we'll put
other people off from pretending to be doctors on TikTok or.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Give them the idea.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, I think that is all we have time for today.
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called the Underscore Podcast because we will be sharing those
food combo videos. This episode was recorded on the traditional
land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We
pay respect to elders past and present.
Coming up on today's show, a Sydney woman is charged
after pretending.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
To be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
On TikTok has Olivia Rodgers reunited with her old flame
Sarah's Day's holiday Blunder, and is book talk turning reading
into a competitive sport. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's
your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news
twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert, and I always love
hearing what people's weird food combos are. Usually they've grown
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up eating it so they don't even realize it's weird
until someone points it out. Yeah, people's parents have a
lot to answer for with this one. Well, this week,
Anna Paul has shared her interesting breakfast combo.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Let's throw to what she said.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Okay, so I go straight to the bread section. I
skip the chocolate fountain as tempting as it looks, and
I toast that shit. Okay. Then I get Apricot jam, which,
by the way, it is the best jam ever. When
you're young, like the Bury ones are the best, and
then when you mature you realize you're wrong and Apricott
is the best gem flavor. And then you put egg
yolk on there trust me, I made everybody taste my
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favorite combination, and they were all jealous, even though they
got steak and they got that good breakfast. Trust me.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Egg yolk on apricot jem hit.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
This made me feel so ill because I'm not a
big egg person, particularly runny egg yolks. I think the
egg yolk is the best part, but I don't know
how well it goes with apricot jam. A friend of
mine swears by toes with apricot jam and a piece
of pineapple on top.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
In regards to egg, I feel like I really have
to psych myself up to eat egg, because once I
get a whiff of cooked egg on a plate, it
just sends me over there. We apparently have very sensitive noses,
because if an egg has been anywhere near any of
like the washing up, I can smell it on glasses
and plates. Yeah, Ole Dale, he loves having egg on pizza.
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So if we go out to a rest and he'll say, yeah,
can you have an egg yolk on the pizza, Yeah,
that grosses me out. I do agree with Anna on
the terms of apricot jam being the number one jam
I have loved it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think we should try it and Apoul's weird food Combo.
I think we should.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Also put a thread in the group asking for people
to share their family food combos, because I feel like
every family has an unusual one, and if you want
to see us testing them out, make sure you are
following out spoken on TikTok and on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Double two is like you can maybe go somewhere that's
a little bit more established.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We're at least not embarrassed about how we look. There's
something going viral in Korea that I want to talk
to you guys about. So it's a rating scale of
the different levels of getting ready for an event. So
it's the perfect way that you can ensure with your
friends that you've got to meet up and there's not
a huge discrepancy about what you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because we do this.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Quite often when we're catching up with friends. I'll put
the message in the group and say, what's the vibe tonight?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Is it active where?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Which that might sound shocking to people living in Sydney
and Melbourne, but quite often, if you're going out to
just a sort of takeaway store or you know, kind
of a crummy restaurant, dumpy restaurant, restaurant you can get.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Away with wearing active work.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah. Well, this rating scale has four different levels. So
the first level is a completely bare face with no
makeup and trackies. And with this level you literally have
put no effort in. Essentially you could have rolled out
of bed and the TikToker advised that this is usually
a sort of catch up when you're just getting a
quick coffee, but you're not staying around for a while.
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You're literally heading home as soon as you finish your coffee.
I think this level is only really for very close friends,
like your best friend. For me personally, I would never
wear this level if I was going and meeting with
someone new or someone i'd only hung out with a
few times. I feel like sunglasses are a necessity for
this level as well.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh you say this.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
We put up with a friend over the weekend and
you'd had a late night and you rocked up. Literally
it looked like you're wearing a disguise. You're wearing one
of those two black puffy jackets with I don't rate
your glasses no offense, but these like dark glasses and
a black hat.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I was like, are you going to take them off inside?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, I had huge bags onto my eye I think.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Anyway, before you guys break out into a fight.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The second level is that you add concealer and you
put on a pair of nicer trackies, maybe even activewear,
and in this instance, you are allowed to go somewhere
more established because it's not completely.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Embarrassing how you look. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Level three is putting enough makeup on and picking a
decent outfit that you would actually be happy to appear
in an Instagram story. So let me stress you wouldn't
share the picture on your feed, but it's okay to'll
be on the story for twenty four hours. I love
that different classification for me. I feel like our level
three is messaging a friend saying, are you putting on
jeans and a nice top? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Really?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Level four is your top level and this is where
your makeup and outfit are on point. It is described
as you are going to slay, and this is a
time when you are going out purposely to take photos
for your Instagram feed. Side note, I hate the use
of the word sleigh. I think it is becoming so
overused and I think it is easy to identify if
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someone is a gen Zetter or a millennial by the
use of.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The word sligh.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, that's why I chose to quote it rather than
putting it in my own words, because if I said, oh,
this is when your outfit as a sligh, I think
people would know that's not really me. I can't remember
the last time I've been at a Level four, if
I'm being honest, I think since COVID.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
For COVID, yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Since COVID, not many people are going to the level
four unless you're actually going to, say a wedding or
a birthday party.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
For me, a level four would only be a very
formal event. And I feel like a lot of people's
posting habits on social media have changed since the pandemic,
because really, I'm only posting now if I've got full makeup,
I've got hair extensions in, and I'm wearing something nice, which.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You're terrible on my feet, do you know what's terrible?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Though? Sometimes I feel worse when i'm a Level four
because I'm like, this is the best I can look,
and then you get the photos back and you're still
not happy with it. Yeah, or when you're a level
four and You've gone to all of this effort and
you go out somewhere and you don't even get a photo. Yeah,
oh that kills me because I'm like, I actually nice,
I put some effort in.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I generally go.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
About my day to day business as a level two,
so I'm not someone that likes to be seen without
makeup on. So I could never go out as a
level one. That's just my own personal insecurity. But these
days I can't get out of my active wear, Like
I will literally wear leggings to a restaurant and try
and dress it up with a coat or a woolen.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Think your theory is that no one when you're sitting
down can see your legs, which is getting terrible. It's
i mean, the zoom theory. Okay, even I put jeans.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Onto, but I like wearing jeans at a restaurant because
you're eating. I don't like to have, you know, tightness around.
The Thing that shit about jeans at the moment is
they're so oversized that it's really difficult to find out
what shoes you're gonna wear, particularly in winter when you're
like I don't want to have bare feet, or I
have a lot of oversized jumpers like the Woolen jumpers,
which are nice, but they don't look good with my
baggy jeans. What level is it that when you're at
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a restaurant wearing jeans and it is feeling a bit tight,
so you unbuckle the top button.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What level would you say that?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, I think that's you're giving up on life.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I've seen that's a thing.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I think people get their hair tied and they extend it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I think that's what people do materially.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's very sad amy because you often do that at
a restaurant. God, these people are probably getting this hideous
view of us at restaurants. I actually do make a
bit of an effort when I go out. I don't
think that's sad at all, because I think that is
just a reflection on women's fashion, because I never see
men having to do that, and I think it's because
women's jeans are so uncomfortable. It's funny I was thinking
about that. Then there really isn't much variation in levels
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for what men wear, because they can throw on a
T shirt and a jumper and they can go anywhere.
But then I suppose the leveled up version is wearing
a suit. But don't you think it's weird? Again, just
thinking about men's and women's jeans, men seem to be able.
And I don't want to make this as a sweeping generalization,
but my partner will wear jeans like to relax in.
He'll be on the couch, Like We'll get home from
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a restaurant and I'll be straight in the room getting
into my pajamas and he'll be sitting on the couch
for the rest of the night in jeans.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That's weird. Dale does that too, does Brandon. No, he
can't stand wearing jeans.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I would say a level one for a man is
wearing gray tracksuit pants. Oh I hate gray tracksuit pants,
particularly if they're wearing a matching gray top as well.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They look like an astronaut. Doesn't leave much the imagination either.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Look, I love being a mom, I love being a wife.
But I will be lying if I said I wasn't
counting down the days till this weekend. Sarah's Day almost
left her family holiday to Fiji a day early. The
Finnest influencer was packed and ready to go. It was
only when she checked her flight status that she realized
it was scheduled to leave the next day. This was
a little bit embarrassing because all week long they thought
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they were heading home on the Thursday, but it was
actually on the Friday, and she kept making a big
deal about how it was her last day in Fiji
and she was enjoying the last afternoon on the balcony.
I feel like the post holiday blues really settle in
on the last day of the trip, and I almost
can't enjoy myself on the last day of the trip
because I'm already mentally going through what I've got a pack.
You know, what's the day at the airport going to
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be like. So she has said here that the silver
lining out of this situation is that, according to Girl Math,
they have an extra night's accommodation for free and a
day in Fiji for free. I actually disagree. I think
that she's been discounted heavily in Girlmoth, because I think
that's two wasted days, because you've got two days of misery,
because there's nothing worse than having to pack and then
you're spending the night there, so you have to really unpack.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And repack again.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But also when you've got children, it'd be really difficult
to explain to them, hey, actually we do have another
day here, because it would be a real thing of
trying to mentally prepare them for the day ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm weird when I'm on holiday.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I love to actually pack my bags ahead of time,
like just randomly, five days in I'll start packing my
bag to see how all my new purchases fit in.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, that's a shopping holiday though.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So for our first holiday away from our parents, we
went to Malaysia and we were there for three weeks,
which I think was a little bit too long because
we had so many mock packs because we didn't have
our parents there controlling what we were purchasing. So we
ended up with like fifty four handbags and twenty six
pairs of shoes between.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So it was actually essential to do the mock pack.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I don't think it was out of enjoyment. I think
it was out of necessity because we could determine how
many bags or things we could buy that night. And
that's when you have a disposable income and you've got
nothing to pay for a home you're living with your parents.
It didn't work out to be that clever though, because
even though we did so many mock packs. We were
so over and we're going to be charged like five
hundred dollars for excess baggage, but we ended up beating
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that by just putting on all the extra clothes on
in the airport and never got charged.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I love that we Back.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
In the day we bought like fifty four handbags and
twenty six pairs of shoes, and now we can't even
be bothered to wear jeans out to the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Today. It is the melb Marathon. I'm having my black coffee.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It is quarterbast six. The run is at eight am,
so get dressed with me. There has been so much
speculation around this romance, but it does appear that Olivia
Rodgers and Morgan water House are back on. So the
former Miss Universe shared a selfie with the model to
her Instagram account after a two month hiatus. Now we
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have not seen this couple together since their extravagant month
fog holiday in Bali in August that they extensively documented. Yeah,
I was pretty surprised when this selfie popped up on
Olivia's Instagram. So the selfie in question was taken after
Olivia and Morgan completed a half marathon in Melbourne and
Morgan had been teasing that Olivia was with him. He
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shared the back of her running in front of him
towards the finish line on his stories and they also
posted recovering and compression boots, so you could put.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Two and two together.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
One super sleuth did send into Influence updates that they
checked out on the Herald Son's website the times that
the marathon runners finished, and basically Morgan Waterhouse and Olivia
their times were exactly the same, so it showed that
they ran it completely in Unison. It's pretty funny because
someone's also done a stalk of Getty images and they've
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come across a photo of Olivia and Morgan side by
side running at the marathon.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I love the investigation that has gone in this. I
think there has been so.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Much speculation because it just seems weird because out of nowhere,
we were seeing all the ins and outs of their relationship,
this very blossoming relationship, so very quick.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, and then for two months we've seen nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And do you think that's the reason why Olivia did
end up sharing a photo of her and Morgan to
her Instagram story because there were so many clues that
they were together. I won day if she was trying
to friend zone him in a way, because it wasn't
just a photo of them together. There was another friend
in the photo. Yeah, I was initially confused by the photo.
I didn't think that it necessarily signified they were back
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together because there was a third person in the photo
and that was only shared on an Instagram story. It
wasn't shared in her feed, and she did post about
the marathon on her feed, so it is interesting she
chose to leave that photo out. I feel like Morgan
is trying to make himself known though, because he is
commenting on her feed again. He wrote, proud of you
for pushing through, and earlier in the week he did
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comment on Olivia's reel and in the video she was
packing clothes to donate to the Red Cross, he wrote,
that's where my coat went. It is interesting timing, particularly
because her ex husband Justin has been amping up his
relationship with Tarny from The Bachelor. I saw over the
weekend that Tany shared a photo again with their dog
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Ziggy cuddling up to him, and again that would just
irritate me so much. I just want to know what
is going on with Olivia and Morgan, and I know
that's very nosey of me, but they did make their
relationships so public so early. Welcome back to books snipping.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's time to snip another book and give it a reading.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, this one's got a really nice It's kind of faint,
but it does have that really nice vanilla smell.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I love it when books smell did.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Books are back in a big way thanks to TikTok,
a subcommunity called book talk is transforming the reading landscape,
with books becoming the hottest accessory for genzettas and millennials.
But is BookTalk sucking the joy out of reading? Some
corners of the internet say that it's pre shuring young
people to treat reading like a competitive sport. I can't
get over how cool reading is at the moment. Always
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on my feet. I'm seeing young girls meeting up in
bookshops or basically going there to add to their collection.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I also see people sniffing books a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, it's so weird because now that I think about it,
I do like the smell of a new book. But
I've never thought to go to my bookshelf and just
start sniffing them. What are they meant to be smelling like?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
A book's supposed to smell different.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, one influencer I follow she has to sniff a
book before she purchases it to make.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Sure that it smells right.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's almost as though you get the tick of approval
if it smells like a good book.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean, why you read the blurb instead? That might
be a better way, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
There's this snobbery also around having a physical book as
opposed to a kindle or even goodness of it listening
to a.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Book on Audible.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I love listening to books on Audible because you can
multitask at the same time. I have seen this trend though,
of people listening to a book on Audible or reading
on a kindle and then buying the physical so they
can kind of parade the book around and have it
on their shelf and be like, oh, I read that,
Look at how think it is. I know, I feel
like there's a bit of a dick measuring competition around,
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as you said, the thickness of a book. I've seen
a few influences and they'll be talking about the book,
but they can't stop showing it and flicking through the
page and saying how great it is that I've actually
read through this. It kind of cracks me up because
can you imagine if people were like this year, I
actually watched a thousand episodes of Real Housewives, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely think there's a lot of currency
in how many books you've read as well, and also
the genre of books that you're reading. You only have
to think of the start of the year when every
influencer was reading the same Colleen Hoover book, and it
sounds like we're being negative towards it, but I actually
think it's fantastic. I'm glad that books are the new
cool accessory because I loved reading growing up, but being
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an adult, I have found it really difficult to get
back into it and find time. And I do like
seeing people reading on my Instagram or TikTok because it
does motivate me to get back into it. Yeah, I mean,
it is fantastic, But there are some critics who are
saying that book talks very wholesome. Online community is now
being fueled by competitiveness, so there's a lot of readers
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who are saying that they're feeling pressure to read books
faster and to also splurge on books so that they
can do all these book calls on TikTok, And there
is this really unspoken snobbery when it comes to reading
a book, because if you are known as being someone
who's into books, there's this assumption that you're more knowledgeable
or you're.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Very articulate with things.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And it does have this new currency online, which is
a good thing because people are obviously trying to be
better educated and better read. But when you're feeling a
pressure to read a book that you're quickly flicking through
the pages, you're scanning it, then I don't think it's
you're actually immersing yourself in the book and doing it
as a relaxation. I just got caf day night in
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my head from Pathing Kim when she was doing the
speed reading. I saw Sophie Jane Miller's log the other day,
and I have to say, I really do enjoy her content.
And she did this whole vlog about how many books
she'd read that week. But I couldn't help laugh because
it actually seemed like it was almost a full time
job to get through these books. Because she has set
herself the challenge. I think it's a reading one hundred
books this year, and it almost like the pressure I
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could see she felt was into reading two books in
a week.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
There is one book toker called Jack Ben Edwards and
he's known as the Internet's resident librarian and last year
he read one hundred and ninety two books, so that's
more than three books a week. And Amy, You touched
on Sophie Jane Miller just yesterday.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
She shared a real.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
About the Panic years, about how the twenties are the
Panic years, and she touched on her obsession with reading,
and in the video she said that I feel a
panic to constantly self improve to read more books, until
reading books becomes more of a chort than a hobby
that you do just to tick off your to do list.
I did get that vibe in her vlog that there
was this pressure to keep reading. And it does seem
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a little bit competitive because she has got a book
club with another influencer called Georgia Richards and some other friends,
and it just seems like books are now all that
that friendship group talks about so pop in a nice way.
I'm not, but I guess that if you're not reading
the book, then you might not be in on the chat.
But for them, they're clearly trying to move their brand
towards book talk. So for them, because they work as
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full time content creators, that is working for them. So
there is that pressure that they must be constantly reviewing
books for.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Their TikTok or for their YouTube.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's funny because when you compare book talk to say,
fitness influencing, it seems so wholesome. But there is an
ugly side to BookTalk where slow readers are being judged
for simply not reading enough. So there was a twenty
three year old content creator called Nicole, and she went
viral recently because she posted a video defending slow readers.
So in the video, Nicole said reading is not a
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competitive sport, even though this silly little app makes us
think it is. She continued, I've always felt I couldn't
make bookish videos as I read too slow. And I
feel like I couldn't love reading as much as I
thought I did because I was a slow reader. And
it's pretty sad. Because she was interviewed by an online
publication and she said that book talk was really intimidating
because there is this huge emphasis on the amount of
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books you read, own and buy. And she continued saying,
the lifestyle of reading hundreds of books a year and
buying fifty books a month is unattainable for the average person.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Books are expensive, and if you're in your teenage years
or early twenties and you're trying to keep up with
all of the cool new books that are coming out,
you can go through your money pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I have to laugh when you said that, because so
many parents would be like, sure, here's fifty dollars, please
just read something.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
What cracks me up is that it seems like a
very that girl thing to be into books at the moment,
and there must be these really confused boyfriends coming home
finding their girlfriends on their aesthetically pleasing white couch just
suddenly reading all these books. There is a content creator
who is sharing her tips on how to read books quicker,
and she said basically that you need to stop sub vocalizing,
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so stop reading the book in your head. I don't
quite understand how that works. She also said to skim
read and to chunk the words together, and to use
your fingers to raise the line of the text a
bit like kath As you were saying earlier, it's so unpleasant.
Isn't the whole point of reading a book to actually
enjoy it and to understand the plot? Because if you're
reading one hundred books a year, aren't you forgetting most
(20:23):
of the ones that you've read? Well? Another tip from
creators has been to make sure that you pick slimmer
books so that you can get your book count up quicker,
which I just found so funny because Spott goes to
the it's just showing that it's about the quantity, not
the quality.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Look, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't like the idea of people being pressed and
feeling bad because they're slow readers, but I think that
the positives outweigh the negatives. This is a fantastic trend.
If girls in their twenties are wanting to read a
lot of books rather than thrashing their bodies at the
gym or promoting unhealthy diets on YouTube, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm terribly so we hadn't been told your adopt how'd
you do? A doctor? Very nice to have you with
the doctor.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Amfield, a Sydney woman, has been charged with impersonating a
health practitioner on TikTok. Dala Krezi was fined thirteen three
hundred dollars by a magistrate's court for the offense, which
can carry a maximum penalty of sixty thousand dollars and
jail time. The thirty year old attracted two hundred and
forty three thousand followers under the handle doctor Kurezi. Between
(21:28):
twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one. She posted fifty six
videos where she shared unqualified medical advice on topics like
ovarian cancer, HIV and fertility issues. Now those videos have
attracted one point five million likes and fifteen point one
million views. Despite having no medical qualifications, Kurezy don scrubs
(21:51):
and a stethoscope while she handed out the medical advice.
That is so shocking and it just shows that you
shouldn't actually follow everything you see online. It's pretty scary
to think that people just instantly trusted her because she
had a steposcope on TikTok. The most disturbing part is
that Korezi even partner with the New South Wales Cancer
Institute on public health awareness campaigns and also gained employment
(22:13):
as a project coordinator at New South Wales Health's Multicultural
health Communication Service shows having a large amount of followers
was really enough social proof for those big organizations to
actually trust it. On a smaller level, when I apply
for a job, I don't think anyone has ever asked
me to take a photo or send through a picture
of my degree. I understand it is different in medicine
(22:34):
with different licenses and stuff, but this is very appalling
that it's gone this far. See, there have been a
few times where I have had to provide my academic
transcript for government jobs, but it isn't a normal thing
that you have to do all the time. Now, Karezi's
defense barrister said his client had an underlying psychological fragility
which made it difficult for her to say no in
(22:56):
social situations. So the story goes that while Korezy studying
a bachelor's degree in health science, she met someone who
believed that she was studying medicine, so she.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Just went with it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So the defense also claimed that the information Carezy shared
on TikTok was based on facts that she had researched.
Wow Now, the prosecutor refuted these claims and said that
the fifty six posts that Crazy made over a sixteen
month period went far beyond it's simply being unable to
say no, and during the sentencing, the magistrate labeled the
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offenses as extensive, prolific, and pervasive.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's pretty scary.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
When you consider TikTok is the new Google search, and
there would be a lot of young people using the
platform to self diagnose. And you've got people on there
pretending to be doctors and talking about really important issues.
And many of us do seem to trust the internet
with our health. I mean, I am very guilty of
always googling my symptoms. It really shows that you just
(23:54):
need to go to your own local doctor and not
search these things online.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Are we really surprised about this?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I mean, you see how many fitness and health influences
there are that are just spreading medical misinformation online. And
they might not have a stethoscope. They've just got six
pack abs to sort of prove their relevant. But it's
different to pretend to be a doctor, I think, rather
than pretending to be a qualified personal trainer. I wonder
how she was found out where the people that knew
her that were like, wait a second, she need not
(24:24):
be easier In that one instance where someone accidentally thought
that you were the doctor and so that you just
said sorry, no, actually i'm studying. This was actually your
connection with New South Wales's health. So they were like,
hang on, she hasn't got any qualification. So a joint
AFRA and Medical Board of Australia investigation was launched.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
How embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The whole thing is really embarrassing, and it just shows
that you've really got to be checking people's qualifications or
also just don't use TikTok to diagnose yourself with medical conditions,
because a new study has revealed just how common unverified
information is on TikTok. So the study looks specifically at
TikTok posts about liver disease and found forty percent of
videos contained medical misinformation. What cracks me up is when
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I was working as a reporter, we used to tell
the doctors that, yeah, can you go on camera in
a white coat and a stethoscope because it just makes
it so much more believable to the viewer. Social proofing, Yeah,
it is social proofing, And obviously we've grown up seeing
doctors look a specific way, so we're just so willing
to believe that anyone in a white coat is a doctor,
yet when I go to my GP, they're just wearing
(25:26):
casual clothes. Well, I suppose it is encouraging that this
woman has been named and shamed, because hopefully we'll put
other people off from pretending to be doctors on TikTok or.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Give them the idea.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, I think that is all we have time for today.
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