March 14, 2022 • 32 mins
On today's show... we discuss influencer run ins, our most awkward interview & discuss the secret world of podcasts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You're dose of the hottest influencer in pop culture news
twice a week. I'm Amy Torbert and I'm joined by
my sisters and journalists Kate and Sophie. Now on today's show,
in celebration of our birthday, we're answering all your juicy
questions from rude influencer dms, to legal threats and behind
the scenes of the podcast world. Now, we are recording
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this late on a Saturday night, so I feel like
this is going to be extra juicy because we are in.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
A bit of a silly mood now.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
People usually struggle to tell our voices apart, and I've
got to put it out there. I am losing my
voice at the moment. I have had a COVID test.
I am COVID free. I think this is from stress
and overwork. Yeah. Well, I think we need to get
into the questions because thank you to everyone who's sent
them in. There are so many good ones, and the
first one is when do we see the rebrand now?
For those who missed it on Instagram. On Wednesday, we
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had a photoshoot for our new album cover work and
we were inspired by a rival podcast, Jack.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm just joking.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
He is the host of Unpopular, and he gave us
a little bit of a roasting on an episode about
it artwork. It was so funny though he is hilarious.
It actually made my day listening to it because even
though it was a roasting, everything he said was so
spot on and we've actually taken it on board. So
thank you for inspiring the new rebrand. And can we
give people a bit of a hint. I mean, I
(01:15):
must say I was dreading this photo shoot because I
work as a videographer and I much prefer being behind
the camera to in front of it. And it was
like the photographer we had was absolutely amazing. He was
so lovely, but how bloody awkward was it?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I actually have so much respect for models because I
cannot post. He kept asking us to do blue steel
or once a she said, oh, can you guys give
me a sexy look? And we just burst out laughing.
I'm sorry, we cannot. This is all you're gonna get,
like us smiling or us laughing, but a nonchalant laughing.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The only thing we could do properly. We worked out.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Now, this was near the end of the shoot. Was
we can all walk and smile at the same time.
That was like, really the only photo that seemed to
go okay, So who knows what the cover is gonna be.
I feel like we should actually put the photos like
the final little photos in our podcast group and get
people to vote on the album cover work, because I
would love to hear, you know, when other people have
a different opinion. When Sophie takes selfies, she always chooses
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such strange ones to put on her feet selfies all
the time. No, but like I'm always surprised which photos
you read of yourself and which you don't. Yeah, Daoa
said that before me because I told him how you're
really fussy when it comes to photos, and he's like, oh,
I'm really surprised by the ones she likes because you're
always like pulling the same expression and.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
All of them well because they're bad. No, not because they're.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Bad, but like, I think we need to move on.
We've got quite a few questions to get through. So
the next one is the most awkward interview. Now I
was absent for this one, but it was with Jonathan
Sour because when we started out doing podcasting, we thought
it would be cool to actually interview some influencers before
we were on their hit lists, and we did get
Jonathan on the show, and while he was lovely, you
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guys have got to feel in the listeners about what
happened after the interview. It was actually really awkward because,
as you say, we were new to the whole podcast
world and we had only interviewed a couple of influencers
on the podcast. I think it was actually our first
influenced Yeah. Well, he said like probably about a thousand
times on there to begin with. You had to cut
it out. It was nice, seemed to be on the show.
(03:15):
To be honest, he was really lovely, but we had
sat down to record the interview and he just was
a no show Via the phone, he just didn't answer,
and so then we had to reschedule it for another day.
And he wrung us as he was driving in his
car and you could audibly hear the car.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
In the background. But he was lovely.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He shared it to his Instagram, which was really really sweet.
Which kind of shit went down after that because we
cut it up as a little promo and we included
there was I think he answered one question about his
relationship breakdown with Shaney Grimman, and we kind of used
that as a bit of a teaser, and it seemed
like his new girlfriend at the time, Madison Woolly, was
not pleased to be seeing his ex girlfriend promoted everywhere. Yeah,
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she cracked the shits basically, and he asked us to
remove the promo and gave us a lecture about how
we should no better working in pr which was really
odd because he'd said how much he enjoyed it previously,
so that was a little bit awkward. I think that
was probably the most awkward interview. Well, that's pretty ironic
when you think that Madison Willey now uses her breakup
as a hook for her own podcast, so it's just
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gone all full circle. Actually, I can remember another awkward
interview that didn't actually go ahead. So when we started out,
we thought it might be interesting to have Sky Wheatley
on the show, and I remember I teed it up
with her manager and her manager I think asked for
either five hundred or one thousand dollars for Sky to
be on the show, which we flatly refused. Anyway, we
explained whether it might be a good opportunity for her
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to be on the podcast, and her manager finally got
a yes from Sky. Then I remember we sat down
to do the interview. We waited for about an hour
and then we get a message saying sorry, I'm not free,
a text message from her, and it was just never
ever followed up. What about her manager? You followed the manager?
He said, Look to be honest, I don't think she's
going to do it. I'm so hopeless, I really hopeless.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
The next question is tips on growing a podcast, and
my number one tip is consistency and making sure your
audience knows what day you were going to be releasing
an episode, because it does bring about a sort of
ritual and a routine, so you get really excited on
the day that you know your favorite podcast is going
to be I also have a theory that if you
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release something consistently for say one or two years, people
are going to pick up on it. Well. That's because
people are always looking for content, and if someone has
put the effort in and you can sit and just
listen to a whole bunch of their stuff. I do
think another one is when you're starting out, trying to
get guests on that will help you reach other people
that you might not reach otherwise, and that's a strategy
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that we used at the start of our podcast Allah
getting Jonathan Soouer on plus other influencers, so I would
suggest doing that as well. The next question is about
wedding planning and where everyone's up to our k your
wedding is in January. Yes, so I have booked the venue.
I've booked the photographer, videographers have their date. I do
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pause that are going to be taking them to the wedding.
I recently booked a gelato cart with Jella Tissimo, so
I'm very excited to pick the flavors there. I've also
picked my flowers, so I need to pay the deposit
actually probably today, and I think the only thing that
I need to do is well, I'm actually looking at
wedding dresses when this podcast goes live, so that's really exciting.
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So it's really about now getting all the clothing and
then the stationary so save the dates and all the signage.
So if anyone's got any tips on that, that would
be really helpful. It's actually stressing me out, Kate that
you don't have your dress yet, because from looking into
the whole wedding world, the rule of thumb is that
you should get your dress more than a year out
and your wedding is weickly approaching. I'm also paranot about
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the Hen's party because I'm feeling like we should start
booking somewhere in to go. No, so I've heard it's
like you can do it like nine to six months
before the wedding because if you get the dress too early,
you might not like it by the time the wedding
rolls around. And what about you, Sophie, were are you
up to because you've been pretty passionate about it all. Well, Well,
(07:07):
my boyfriend's been working every weekend for about the past
six weeks, so he is finally going to be off
weekends next week. So we're going to start checking out
some venues. So I have about a top five list
of venues. Actually, tomorrow we are going to go and
look at Coriel, which is a beautiful winery in South Australia.
The only thing I'm concerned about is that their ceremonies
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start at five point thirty and it's cutting out a
bit byelan. So I really that's probably most of the
planning I've got done. We've been a bit slack with it,
haven't we Amy.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, we've just been so busy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm just waiting to sit down with Dale and come
up with a guest list because I feel like that's
the first thing you need to get down is how
many numbers, because then you can work out how much
money everything is going to cost and what you can do.
It is a little bit stressful all getting married at
the same time, because I know that I'm really mindful
not to pick the same things as you guys, and
I kind of think, oh, what's something that I can
(08:04):
do that's a.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Little bit different or will stand out.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, that's I feel like you and I. So we're
probably going to have our weddings around the same time
as well, and so I'm kind of mindful of what
you guys are doing too, and I'm thinking, Oh, do
I do the whole food cart thing, or do I
do a sit down thing? Or you're apparently your theme
is fun? Yeah, what's your theme? So I don't really
have a theme fancy, that's not my exquisite.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
We kind of want to have like a country vibe
because Brandon is a country boy. But then all the
dresses I look out are really lux and sparkly and stuff,
so my vibe might not quite match up with his
country chic. Maybe my florist did ask me what my
theme was and I just had to google it, like
I had to google what. You know, there's like fairy
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tale and whimsical and all this stuff. I was like,
I don't know. I think I went with modern romantic,
modern romance sound that sounds like a Taylor Swift song.
One thing I really want to have at my wedding
is I want to have an ice cream van, but
have specialized ice.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Creams, like on theme.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know, you can get the dale or ice cream
and maybe it's his favorite ice cream flavor.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I don't know if people do that, but I thought
that would.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
People did that with cocktails. I think, yeah, that would
be cool.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, something more curse.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Because I'm not a big drinker. But I want to
have Singapore slings at my wedding because it holds a
special place in my heart. On Singapore slings when she
never normally drinks at a memorable occasion with Reese, so
basically impressed rec in Singapore anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It never again, I should move on.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, let's move on to the latest on Sophie cation. Now,
this question popped up quite a bit, and I have
to say, following our episode where we cleared things up,
we actually haven't heard from Sophie Kesia. Someone did also
ask us about why we deleted all the topics in
our Facebook community about her, and that was purely because
she originally asked us too, so we did that out
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of respect for her. Someone also asked how we felt
about all of the drama, and to be completely honest,
it was a really stressful and draining week. Those sort
of situations do kind of take a toll on you,
because we were just inundated with really abusive, vile messages
that we just thought were so out of line and
also completely unfair because in our opinion, the whole situation
(10:19):
had been taken out of context and what we'd said
had been painted a completely different life exactly. I mean,
the thing is, we all have full time jobs, and
I think some people who maybe new listen to the
podcast think that this is our full time job, but
it's not. So it is often really draining because Sof
and I run a pr business together, so you know,
you're trying to deal with all your work and then
you're copying dms, and it's is honestly quite hard to
(10:41):
concentrate sometimes when to switch off, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, when there's something.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Big like that happening, and I know when stuff like
this happens, I just find myself on my phone at
night time and it's so high. It's kind of very
addictive because you kind of got this awful feeling in
the pit of your stomach about it. I think it's
also really lucky that we do work in PR because
I think when huge dramas like that happen, there's a
lot of crisis management involved, and that's why you do
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have to switch your attention to what is going on online,
because it's so easy for a narrative to be created
about you that is just so untrue.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Anytime these things happen, it makes me realize just how
silly the online world is, because you know, when you
have to take yourself out of that environment, sometimes it
is just best to turn your phone off and just
go for a walk or like even just go and
you know, hang out with soaps dog Archie or my
cat stud and Bentley and realize how fickle and silly
it all is. It's funny when you guys were talking
(11:38):
about your job, because I work at a digital marketing
company that is very separate to the podcast world. And
my boss was actually scrolling on news dot com and
he's like, he saw our podcast mentioned with the Jade
Tucci story, and he sent it to me and was like,
what's this about, because he had a joke saying that,
oh yeah, Like I don't think he thinks many people
(11:58):
listen to the podcast. I mean, it's really not up
his ally. So it's quite funny when your two worlds collide.
And someone did actually have a question about what we
did before we started podcasting, and as Amy said before,
this isn't our full time job. Amy, can you run
through your qualifications and also what you've done before the podcast. Yes,
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so we all have a Bachelor of Journalism and we
also have a Master's of Journalism. So I worked at
seven for about five years. I first worked as a
researcher at Today Tonight, and then I did some reporting
shifts at Today Tonight, and then I became a reporter
at seven News here in Adelaide, and then after seven
I worked at Mix one O two point three, which
(12:40):
is a radio station here in Adelaide, and I was
a content producer, so I wrote about shows like Married
at First Sight, The Bachelor, and it was quite funny
because Meghan Pissetto, who runs so dramatic, she was the
content producer in Sydney, so I recognized her name and
when I heard her podcast came out, I was like,
oh my god, that's Megan from ARN. What about you, Sophie. Yeah. Well,
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I started out at ten News and basically I was
an absolute shit kicker there probably for about three or
four years. I did auto q organize people's Friday night drinks.
This was all when I had a journalism degree and
it was forgot about writing the weather, so I also
wrote the weather.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And it was all to get my foot in the door,
and that is really important. You should never feel like
you're too important or too great to do any job
in the field that you're really interested in working at.
And from there I ended up getting some reporting shifts
at ten News. I then went on to Channel seven,
where I worked with you for a bit Amy. It
was really exciting because we got told that we'd never
work in the same newsroom.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I finished up there actually at Today Tonight, which was.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Pretty random because Amy had worked there for about four
years and then finally a reporting gig open up there,
and yeah, it was really interesting working at Today Tonight.
It did get a little bit more ethical when I
started working there because Amy, when you were there, there
were so many secret missions going on where there were
hidden cameras. It was actually so much fun though, all
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that hidden camera stuff. But yeah, then the law then
the law's changed and it made it illegal to have
hidden cameras. So now Sophie and I actually work together
and we run a public relations business and I am
head of content and your head of PR because we
often clashed about who had the final say over different projects,
and we did have a few questions where people were
asking does the podcast affect our PR business? But to
(14:24):
be completely honest, we work with a lot of corporate
clients or product based clients, and I think PR is
really different in Adelaide to what it might be in
Sydney and Melbourne because unlike other agencies who they're pure
focus is on using influences to promote products, we very
much use mainstream media attention. So our strength is really
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in TV news, newspapers, radio, organic attention, isn't it. Yeah,
you're not actually paying for that marketing. It's all organic,
which is fantastic. We do have a really funny story though,
and I'm going to leave some names out of it
just to protect the potential client that we met with,
But we had a really funny meeting and we basically
(15:06):
had this big love fest with this potential client. They
were saying how they've always wanted to work with us,
and they've been following us on LinkedIn and they love
what we're doing, and we had always wanted to work
with them too, so we were saying we loved their work,
they loved our ideas, like, yeah, this sounds great. And
then and then they said, oh, we're really excited because
we're about to launch this event and we're having these
(15:28):
particular influences be the face of the event. And at
this time, these influencers were just facing so much backlash online,
very problemat very problematic. And I said to them, oh,
so have you locked these influences in, because I would
highly advise against using them because they are copying it
online and you probably don't want to be associated with
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them because it's going to make your brand look bad.
And they said, we don't care. Let's just say we
never worked with that client. We see after that meeting,
we never heard from them again. And I did think
it was a very interesting marketing technique to want to
align yourself with very controversial people, because I personally don't
think that that's the best move for a brand. But
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that's probably been the only time because we have discussed
these particular influences on the podcast, and that's the only
time the podcast has really collided without professional.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Lives Now what about UK?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So I also did a bit of shitkicking at Channel
ten as well, writing the weather script and doing the AUTOQ.
I also did auto Q and library at Channel seven,
which is like basically a journalist will ask you to
go find some footage. So it was all very important
things there. I then took a little bit of a
different turn. I did copywriting at a company called zib
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Media for three years. In that time, I moved to Melbourne,
which was really cool, and then I moved back to
Adelaide and started working at the Adelaide Thunderbirds as a
communication manager. And then I moved across to Basketball and
worked as a media manager for the thirty six is
I really love that job. It was amazing. I got
to travel with the team to Utah, I got to
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go to Singapore.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It was a really good gig.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
But unfortunately, due to COVID, I got made redundant. So
now I work in digital marketing, so I look after
a lot of high profile social media accounts and head
up the marketing and rebranding that we're currently doing. So
it's quite interesting going. I feel like I've had quite
a different career path to you, Amy and sof but
we've kind of all ended up. Like at the moment,
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Amy and Sophie are helping me with the company rebrand.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So it's quite cool to be able to work with.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You guys in a different area other than the podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Now we have received a few questions about dating, and
one person wrote, what is the worst date you've ever
been on? I feel like I can answer that one.
So I was dating this guy and I invited him
over for dinner. So I cooked him spaghetti bolonnaise and
he basically I think you forgot that he was meant
(18:00):
to be coming over, And it was really embarrassing because
Amy and Sophie used to live with me, so I
kind of kicked them out of the house. I think
we still had our Christmas tree up and it was like,
oh my god, I cut those We had two Christmas
trees in our house, that's what I mean, and I
cut them up because we knew this guy was coming
over and it was probably like March or February or something,
and we're like, oh my god, he would judge us
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for having these trees still up. We were the best
sisters when we, Sophie, because you called us. I think
it was like at three o'clock and he was coming
over at six or something and we're like, oh my god,
we were cleaning up the house for you. Then I
remember I cleared out of the house for hours.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So we weren't around it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, it didn't actually end up being hours, because he
begrudgingly came over and then he literally told me that
he was meeting his friends in like half an hour
at the movies, did not invite me. I ate the
dinner and then left. But it's so rude, pissed off.
It was so rude. I actually just feel mortified even
thinking about it now, because I had to call you guys, like, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
They've left.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And then I remember watching Housewives of Sydney, so it
wasn't all anyway. Do you guys have any stories to share? Oh?
I mean, the only worst date story I can think
of is when I went out on a date with
this guy that I didn't even want to go out with.
You guys pushed me to go on this date, and
then you decided to drive a past where we were
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having dinner. So we were sitting outside having dinner in
the city and you guys went by in a car
with our cousins and decided to take snapchat photos of me.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Which you then sent to me. That was pretty awkward.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think my worst date was with a prison guard,
which sounds really random, but set me up with him anyway,
and it was It's not that he was awful.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He was actually really lovely, but.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
We just had nothing in common. And you know those
dates like five years ago where you just used to
go to a coffee shop and we're just sitting there
and just thinking, I have nothing to ask about you
know what You've just He was pretty hot, though, was.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm being tall?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's about it and boring. Anyway, I think let's let's
let's get on.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I like these questions.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Someone said what is the podcast world really like?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And we've got to admit.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I mean we're in Adelaide, so I don't actually know
any other podcast. It's a podcast here, Yeah she does,
but we don't know her unfortunately. But I feel like
the podcast world is very tight knit, Like I feel
like there's lots of dramas going on behind the scenes.
Everyone's in Melbourne that has a big podcast. I actually
think somebody should do a reality show about what really
(20:38):
goes on in the podcast well, because some of the
stories I have heard are super juicy. I'm not going
to divulge any secrets, but there's a lot going on. Sometimes.
I thank God, Like, if you spoke about the stuff
that's going on behind the scenes in the podcast, you're
that podcast, We're going number one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, it would be so good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Anyway, moving on quick fire question, who are your dream
guests have on the show? I have an answer and
I feel like yours might match up. I wrote down
Taylor Swift, anyone from Money Heist, Rafael Nadale, and then
in terms of influencers, I said Anastasia kings North, Molly
may Or, Saffron Barker. Because I feel like the UK
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influencers see more famous. To me, I don't think we'd
have an Aussie influencer other than Britt Saunders and maybe
Michael Finch that would agree to become on.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Kate, I don't would agree to come.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
To our show.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay, I don't think we'd have Rafael nadal on.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I love him, but I don't really think he's in
the pop culture space and he probably couldn't understand us
that well. I just thinking who I'd want to talk to.
I'd want to talk to, I'd want to have on,
Stacy Dooley, I'd want to have on.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I love Julian.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Michaels, if Princess Diana, if it was somebody that you
could hire, let's not here anymore and Ursa the carverro
from Money Heist? Is it wrong that all I can
think of is Molly May As you say, Kay, I
would love to have Molly may on the show. Maybe
she could drop one of those not so popular summaries
about having you know, the same twenty four hours in
(22:03):
the day, So then that would shoot your podcast up
the charts. Man, Yeah, maybe it will coerce into saying
something controversial. Oh this is else I really really want
to have Chappelle Corby on the podcast one day. Yes,
that's that's a big one for us. On a similar
vein which three famous people would you invite to a
dinner party, alive or dead? I had Taylor Swift, Hillary
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Duff and Ursula Carbero.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Oh they're good ones.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Don't you think that'd be a great girls night.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
All those three?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yes, because you have to think about if the other
guests would get along as well. Okay, mine are Molly
may Well.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You're gonna have Molly May out of.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Everybody in the world, moll May Wait, is this dead
or alive? Or just your life? Molly May, Princess Diana
and Michael Jackson. So you're choosing Molly May over Taylor Swift? Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, are you? I was trying to keep it different.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Everyone doesn't want to hear us say the same thing. Actually,
I I'm maybe on a backtrack. I won the professor
as well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh, yes, all right, I think.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
We can't stick to three. What's one of our next questions, Kate?
So the next question is tell me about influences you
have met in person. Now, I have a very funny
story that I have shared on the podcast before, but
for new listeners, I met Shany Grimmand and Chloe Zepp
at the airport. Now this was I think in twenty
seventeen when they were in there. Well, Shany was definitely
in her peak. I think Chloe was still up and coming,
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and I was so excited. I was on a work
trip and I saw her and I made another girl
come over and I asked for a photo with Shanny
and Chloe Zepp actually took the photo, and I felt
really rude because I didn't realize it was Chloe and
she was actually so lovely. She was like, yeah, no worries,
let me take the photo. And Shanny was just so quiet,
which I had heard before, but it was kind of
(23:48):
weird because she's usually larger than life on her channel.
So yeah, it was a bizarre experience. ALSOF and I
have mentioned before for og listeners that we have met
Sarah's Day and Kert and that was through work.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So basic.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We had a client, a national client, who we were
doing a news story for them, and we needed talent
in the story and we needed a first homeowner who
had an interesting job, like an influence or a content creator.
So we asked Kurt Tills to be in the story.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
We ended up going to their apartment. Kurt was lovely.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Sarah wasn't there during the interview, but she did arrive
later and we had a bit of a chat with her.
I have to say, it was so bizarre to be
in their apartment because it literally felt like you'd walked
inside their YouTube channel. And yeah, the two of them
were super lovely. Some listeners may remember that Kurt did
share a series of Instagram stories about our podcast after
(24:39):
we did a segment on his and Sarah's wedding, and
basically he almost referred that we were clout chasers, because when.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We think he called us cloud chasers, didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Oh, I'm not sure if the complete wording, but perhaps
I'm pretty sway. And he said we were lovely girls
we have met, but that we had asked them to
be involved in a Netflix documentary that we were working on,
and I feel like we've never really cleared this up.
So basically, since I think twenty seventeen, we have been
working with some production companies on a documentary about Fitzpo.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So basically we.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Were wanting to look into a couple of different diets
as triplets we wanted to try those diets out and
we were working with Tarren Brunfit, who some of you
might know. Basically, when we did meet up with them,
we did want to involve them in some area of
the podcast, seeing as they are you know, to the
stocko the doco, sorry, seeing as they are to you know,
Sarah is a huge health and fitness blog. It. So
(25:34):
what happened was we told Sarah and Kurd about the doco.
They said they loved it, and we said we'd love
to send them some more information and if they were interested,
it would be great to get them on camera if
the documentary did get picked up, because we were talking
to a number of producers at the time. Anyway, we
ended up emailing them information and we never ever heard
from them. We followed up a few times and there
(25:54):
was no reply. So it was quite ironic because Kurt
mentioned in the Insta story that they had politely declined.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And he implied that perhaps that is why we were.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Then discussing them on the podcast, because he was under
the impression that we were talking about them negatively when
we actually weren't.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So was it a few cross there.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It was a few cross wires, but I have to
say they were lovely in person.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Subsequently, you know, we've had little run ins here and there.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But another influencer I have met is Kayla. I don't
even want to say her last name because every time
we've seen this thank you, I'm not going to even
bother because everyone says I say it wrong.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And she was extremely lovely.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So I interviewed her once for Today tonight. There was
a story about up and coming influences, ironically, and then
I did another story on her at seven News and
it was so funny because it turned out that she
actually went to the same high school as us, and
I was her peer support leader and I had completely
forgotten so we bonded a lot on people at school
who weren't so nice.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And she's just so down to earth.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, someone who's worth that much money and has been
so successful at a young age, he's incredibly down to earth. Yeah,
this is how small Adelaide is. Our mum actually was
teaching TRT teaching with her mum. So that was just
Adelaide in a bloody nutshell for you. I think we
need to wrap this up and go into the last question,
and we have got a lot more questions that we
haven't answered. So if you are interested in us doing
(27:13):
a follow up episode, who knows. You might have found
this very boring, but if you did enjoy it, let
us know and we will do a part two. But
let's finish on a good one. What were your first
impressions of each other's part? Oh? Wow, so of Reese?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So yeah, Which is that it's difficult because I have heard
I had heard so much about Reese before I actually
met him, because Kate and Reese worked together and he
actually had a girlfriend at the time when Kate scandalous. Yeah,
when Kate and Reese met, So i'd kind of heard
that Kate liked this guy to work, but he had
a girlfriend, So it was so weird when you guys
(27:52):
finally got together. I'd heard so much about him, but
I just thought he was really nice and sweet.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
He's very quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's kind of like, I don't know, you know, when
someone's quiet and you kind of want to impress them
and you want them to like you. They kind of
demand some power when they're quiet, and you think what
they're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Is really very polite and lovely.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
My first impression was that he was a bit fancy
because he was always wearing a suit around the basketball stadium.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Really, I did think he was.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Very cute as well, because you had showed me some
photos and yeah, I just was wanting him to dump
the girlfriend and for you guys to get together. But Kate,
what about Brandon because he was your intern, As the
podcast listeners will know, you met.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Him before I did.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, for those newbies. So his partner, well fiance, was
my intern when I was working at the Adelaide Thunderbirds
and he came in to be interviewed and I was
at the scene. I was extremely desperate to have a
videographer working for us because we didn't have one. So
an email popped up in my inbox saying that this
person was very keen. It was a very great email.
(28:54):
I found out later that his sister had written, so.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I was really impressed. I say to my boss, Oh
my god, there's this guy called Brandon. Let's get him in.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Anyway, he came in, and my dealings with videographers in
the past had been that they were very nerdy, and
he came in and I thought he was a lot
cooler than the other the other people that had come in,
So I was like, oh, yeah, this guy seems pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So we got him go.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Entrition was that he was cool, I have to tell
Brann And yeah, well I think he was wearing like
a loose beanie and he kind of like strutted in
and I just thought, and I just thought, I'll probably
get on well with this guy, like he just seems
like a bit more normal than some of the really
nerdy camera guys. Nice when I met him, because I
met him through the Thunderbirds too, because at I, oh,
(29:40):
you guys roped me into dressing up as tory T.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You were unemployed at the time. I wasn't unemployed. I
was going through a legal.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Battle against the large networks, so yes, I had some
time in my hands, and so yeah, I was dressing
up as tory T Bird and we were filming videos
and it was actually lots of fun. I do remember
thinking that Brownon was a lot of fun. And I
also remember thinking, I don't even know if this is
a term people use, but a bit of a.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Jack the lad, I jack the la.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I thought he was out drinking and he was always
telling us how he's at the woolshed and all this stuff.
And it turns out he does not drink alcohol at all,
so my first impression was wrong. Yeah. He also was
like a very country boy, so used to tell us
about insects he's killed and stuff, which really did not
impress me. Anyway. Let's get onto Amy's partner, Dale's, so.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
We all thought he was a bit of a dream boat.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I remember he walked into our white party and I
was like, wow, he's really good looking.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So yeah, he does make a good first impression.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I remember I was shocked, shocked to my core.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That he came to our party because every other dickhead
guy that we've dated seems to just not give a fuck.
And he turned up with a box of chocolates, which
I was like, oh my god, that's so kind. So yeah,
I remember I kind of got like a popular boy
really like I was kind of like, why is a year?
But now that I know him, it's just so not
(31:01):
what I thought, like not saying, he's just obviously like
really yeah, very down to earth and got particular interests
in like camping and I don't know, fire safety, Like
it's just not what I was expecting. I do remember
there were a few girls who were there and their
heads turned.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I saw them look at Dale and I was kind
of like, back off his mind.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, we did say that was our last question, but
I do remember in the intro we did preview that
we'd be answering the question about some legal stuff because
we have had a few threats. Have you threats thrown around?
And let's be honest, we have had threats, but having
studied media law, there's no there's no validity to any
(31:43):
there's no bases to any of these threats. But that
being said, there's never been a legal letter. It's just
some people kind of referencing in DMS. Yeah, so all
of the threats have been baseless and we haven't taken
any of them seriously. But I think that's all we've
got time for today. We do hope you did enjoy
this Q and A episode. If you did enjoy it,
(32:03):
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Speaker 1 (32:06):
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Welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You're dose of the hottest influencer in pop culture news
twice a week. I'm Amy Torbert and I'm joined by
my sisters and journalists Kate and Sophie. Now on today's show,
in celebration of our birthday, we're answering all your juicy
questions from rude influencer dms, to legal threats and behind
the scenes of the podcast world. Now, we are recording
(00:22):
this late on a Saturday night, so I feel like
this is going to be extra juicy because we are in.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
A bit of a silly mood now.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
People usually struggle to tell our voices apart, and I've
got to put it out there. I am losing my
voice at the moment. I have had a COVID test.
I am COVID free. I think this is from stress
and overwork. Yeah. Well, I think we need to get
into the questions because thank you to everyone who's sent
them in. There are so many good ones, and the
first one is when do we see the rebrand now?
For those who missed it on Instagram. On Wednesday, we
(00:48):
had a photoshoot for our new album cover work and
we were inspired by a rival podcast, Jack.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm just joking.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
He is the host of Unpopular, and he gave us
a little bit of a roasting on an episode about
it artwork. It was so funny though he is hilarious.
It actually made my day listening to it because even
though it was a roasting, everything he said was so
spot on and we've actually taken it on board. So
thank you for inspiring the new rebrand. And can we
give people a bit of a hint. I mean, I
(01:15):
must say I was dreading this photo shoot because I
work as a videographer and I much prefer being behind
the camera to in front of it. And it was
like the photographer we had was absolutely amazing. He was
so lovely, but how bloody awkward was it?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I actually have so much respect for models because I
cannot post. He kept asking us to do blue steel
or once a she said, oh, can you guys give
me a sexy look? And we just burst out laughing.
I'm sorry, we cannot. This is all you're gonna get,
like us smiling or us laughing, but a nonchalant laughing.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The only thing we could do properly. We worked out.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Now, this was near the end of the shoot. Was
we can all walk and smile at the same time.
That was like, really the only photo that seemed to
go okay, So who knows what the cover is gonna be.
I feel like we should actually put the photos like
the final little photos in our podcast group and get
people to vote on the album cover work, because I
would love to hear, you know, when other people have
a different opinion. When Sophie takes selfies, she always chooses
(02:10):
such strange ones to put on her feet selfies all
the time. No, but like I'm always surprised which photos
you read of yourself and which you don't. Yeah, Daoa
said that before me because I told him how you're
really fussy when it comes to photos, and he's like, oh,
I'm really surprised by the ones she likes because you're
always like pulling the same expression and.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
All of them well because they're bad. No, not because they're.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Bad, but like, I think we need to move on.
We've got quite a few questions to get through. So
the next one is the most awkward interview. Now I
was absent for this one, but it was with Jonathan
Sour because when we started out doing podcasting, we thought
it would be cool to actually interview some influencers before
we were on their hit lists, and we did get
Jonathan on the show, and while he was lovely, you
(02:54):
guys have got to feel in the listeners about what
happened after the interview. It was actually really awkward because,
as you say, we were new to the whole podcast
world and we had only interviewed a couple of influencers
on the podcast. I think it was actually our first
influenced Yeah. Well, he said like probably about a thousand
times on there to begin with. You had to cut
it out. It was nice, seemed to be on the show.
(03:15):
To be honest, he was really lovely, but we had
sat down to record the interview and he just was
a no show Via the phone, he just didn't answer,
and so then we had to reschedule it for another day.
And he wrung us as he was driving in his
car and you could audibly hear the car.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
In the background. But he was lovely.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He shared it to his Instagram, which was really really sweet.
Which kind of shit went down after that because we
cut it up as a little promo and we included
there was I think he answered one question about his
relationship breakdown with Shaney Grimman, and we kind of used
that as a bit of a teaser, and it seemed
like his new girlfriend at the time, Madison Woolly, was
not pleased to be seeing his ex girlfriend promoted everywhere. Yeah,
(03:55):
she cracked the shits basically, and he asked us to
remove the promo and gave us a lecture about how
we should no better working in pr which was really
odd because he'd said how much he enjoyed it previously,
so that was a little bit awkward. I think that
was probably the most awkward interview. Well, that's pretty ironic
when you think that Madison Willey now uses her breakup
as a hook for her own podcast, so it's just
(04:17):
gone all full circle. Actually, I can remember another awkward
interview that didn't actually go ahead. So when we started out,
we thought it might be interesting to have Sky Wheatley
on the show, and I remember I teed it up
with her manager and her manager I think asked for
either five hundred or one thousand dollars for Sky to
be on the show, which we flatly refused. Anyway, we
explained whether it might be a good opportunity for her
(04:38):
to be on the podcast, and her manager finally got
a yes from Sky. Then I remember we sat down
to do the interview. We waited for about an hour
and then we get a message saying sorry, I'm not free,
a text message from her, and it was just never
ever followed up. What about her manager? You followed the manager?
He said, Look to be honest, I don't think she's
going to do it. I'm so hopeless, I really hopeless.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
The next question is tips on growing a podcast, and
my number one tip is consistency and making sure your
audience knows what day you were going to be releasing
an episode, because it does bring about a sort of
ritual and a routine, so you get really excited on
the day that you know your favorite podcast is going
to be I also have a theory that if you
(05:19):
release something consistently for say one or two years, people
are going to pick up on it. Well. That's because
people are always looking for content, and if someone has
put the effort in and you can sit and just
listen to a whole bunch of their stuff. I do
think another one is when you're starting out, trying to
get guests on that will help you reach other people
that you might not reach otherwise, and that's a strategy
(05:40):
that we used at the start of our podcast Allah
getting Jonathan Soouer on plus other influencers, so I would
suggest doing that as well. The next question is about
wedding planning and where everyone's up to our k your
wedding is in January. Yes, so I have booked the venue.
I've booked the photographer, videographers have their date. I do
(06:01):
pause that are going to be taking them to the wedding.
I recently booked a gelato cart with Jella Tissimo, so
I'm very excited to pick the flavors there. I've also
picked my flowers, so I need to pay the deposit
actually probably today, and I think the only thing that
I need to do is well, I'm actually looking at
wedding dresses when this podcast goes live, so that's really exciting.
(06:24):
So it's really about now getting all the clothing and
then the stationary so save the dates and all the signage.
So if anyone's got any tips on that, that would
be really helpful. It's actually stressing me out, Kate that
you don't have your dress yet, because from looking into
the whole wedding world, the rule of thumb is that
you should get your dress more than a year out
and your wedding is weickly approaching. I'm also paranot about
(06:47):
the Hen's party because I'm feeling like we should start
booking somewhere in to go. No, so I've heard it's
like you can do it like nine to six months
before the wedding because if you get the dress too early,
you might not like it by the time the wedding
rolls around. And what about you, Sophie, were are you
up to because you've been pretty passionate about it all. Well, Well,
(07:07):
my boyfriend's been working every weekend for about the past
six weeks, so he is finally going to be off
weekends next week. So we're going to start checking out
some venues. So I have about a top five list
of venues. Actually, tomorrow we are going to go and
look at Coriel, which is a beautiful winery in South Australia.
The only thing I'm concerned about is that their ceremonies
(07:31):
start at five point thirty and it's cutting out a
bit byelan. So I really that's probably most of the
planning I've got done. We've been a bit slack with it,
haven't we Amy.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, we've just been so busy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm just waiting to sit down with Dale and come
up with a guest list because I feel like that's
the first thing you need to get down is how
many numbers, because then you can work out how much
money everything is going to cost and what you can do.
It is a little bit stressful all getting married at
the same time, because I know that I'm really mindful
not to pick the same things as you guys, and
I kind of think, oh, what's something that I can
(08:04):
do that's a.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Little bit different or will stand out.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, that's I feel like you and I. So we're
probably going to have our weddings around the same time
as well, and so I'm kind of mindful of what
you guys are doing too, and I'm thinking, Oh, do
I do the whole food cart thing, or do I
do a sit down thing? Or you're apparently your theme
is fun? Yeah, what's your theme? So I don't really
have a theme fancy, that's not my exquisite.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
We kind of want to have like a country vibe
because Brandon is a country boy. But then all the
dresses I look out are really lux and sparkly and stuff,
so my vibe might not quite match up with his
country chic. Maybe my florist did ask me what my
theme was and I just had to google it, like
I had to google what. You know, there's like fairy
(08:52):
tale and whimsical and all this stuff. I was like,
I don't know. I think I went with modern romantic,
modern romance sound that sounds like a Taylor Swift song.
One thing I really want to have at my wedding
is I want to have an ice cream van, but
have specialized ice.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Creams, like on theme.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know, you can get the dale or ice cream
and maybe it's his favorite ice cream flavor.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I don't know if people do that, but I thought
that would.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
People did that with cocktails. I think, yeah, that would
be cool.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, something more curse.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Because I'm not a big drinker. But I want to
have Singapore slings at my wedding because it holds a
special place in my heart. On Singapore slings when she
never normally drinks at a memorable occasion with Reese, so
basically impressed rec in Singapore anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It never again, I should move on.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, let's move on to the latest on Sophie cation. Now,
this question popped up quite a bit, and I have
to say, following our episode where we cleared things up,
we actually haven't heard from Sophie Kesia. Someone did also
ask us about why we deleted all the topics in
our Facebook community about her, and that was purely because
she originally asked us too, so we did that out
(09:56):
of respect for her. Someone also asked how we felt
about all of the drama, and to be completely honest,
it was a really stressful and draining week. Those sort
of situations do kind of take a toll on you,
because we were just inundated with really abusive, vile messages
that we just thought were so out of line and
also completely unfair because in our opinion, the whole situation
(10:19):
had been taken out of context and what we'd said
had been painted a completely different life exactly. I mean,
the thing is, we all have full time jobs, and
I think some people who maybe new listen to the
podcast think that this is our full time job, but
it's not. So it is often really draining because Sof
and I run a pr business together, so you know,
you're trying to deal with all your work and then
you're copying dms, and it's is honestly quite hard to
(10:41):
concentrate sometimes when to switch off, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, when there's something.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Big like that happening, and I know when stuff like
this happens, I just find myself on my phone at
night time and it's so high. It's kind of very
addictive because you kind of got this awful feeling in
the pit of your stomach about it. I think it's
also really lucky that we do work in PR because
I think when huge dramas like that happen, there's a
lot of crisis management involved, and that's why you do
(11:06):
have to switch your attention to what is going on online,
because it's so easy for a narrative to be created
about you that is just so untrue.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Anytime these things happen, it makes me realize just how
silly the online world is, because you know, when you
have to take yourself out of that environment, sometimes it
is just best to turn your phone off and just
go for a walk or like even just go and
you know, hang out with soaps dog Archie or my
cat stud and Bentley and realize how fickle and silly
it all is. It's funny when you guys were talking
(11:38):
about your job, because I work at a digital marketing
company that is very separate to the podcast world. And
my boss was actually scrolling on news dot com and
he's like, he saw our podcast mentioned with the Jade
Tucci story, and he sent it to me and was like,
what's this about, because he had a joke saying that,
oh yeah, Like I don't think he thinks many people
(11:58):
listen to the podcast. I mean, it's really not up
his ally. So it's quite funny when your two worlds collide.
And someone did actually have a question about what we
did before we started podcasting, and as Amy said before,
this isn't our full time job. Amy, can you run
through your qualifications and also what you've done before the podcast. Yes,
(12:19):
so we all have a Bachelor of Journalism and we
also have a Master's of Journalism. So I worked at
seven for about five years. I first worked as a
researcher at Today Tonight, and then I did some reporting
shifts at Today Tonight, and then I became a reporter
at seven News here in Adelaide, and then after seven
I worked at Mix one O two point three, which
(12:40):
is a radio station here in Adelaide, and I was
a content producer, so I wrote about shows like Married
at First Sight, The Bachelor, and it was quite funny
because Meghan Pissetto, who runs so dramatic, she was the
content producer in Sydney, so I recognized her name and
when I heard her podcast came out, I was like,
oh my god, that's Megan from ARN. What about you, Sophie. Yeah. Well,
(13:01):
I started out at ten News and basically I was
an absolute shit kicker there probably for about three or
four years. I did auto q organize people's Friday night drinks.
This was all when I had a journalism degree and
it was forgot about writing the weather, so I also
wrote the weather.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And it was all to get my foot in the door,
and that is really important. You should never feel like
you're too important or too great to do any job
in the field that you're really interested in working at.
And from there I ended up getting some reporting shifts
at ten News. I then went on to Channel seven,
where I worked with you for a bit Amy. It
was really exciting because we got told that we'd never
work in the same newsroom.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I finished up there actually at Today Tonight, which was.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Pretty random because Amy had worked there for about four
years and then finally a reporting gig open up there,
and yeah, it was really interesting working at Today Tonight.
It did get a little bit more ethical when I
started working there because Amy, when you were there, there
were so many secret missions going on where there were
hidden cameras. It was actually so much fun though, all
(14:00):
that hidden camera stuff. But yeah, then the law then
the law's changed and it made it illegal to have
hidden cameras. So now Sophie and I actually work together
and we run a public relations business and I am
head of content and your head of PR because we
often clashed about who had the final say over different projects,
and we did have a few questions where people were
asking does the podcast affect our PR business? But to
(14:24):
be completely honest, we work with a lot of corporate
clients or product based clients, and I think PR is
really different in Adelaide to what it might be in
Sydney and Melbourne because unlike other agencies who they're pure
focus is on using influences to promote products, we very
much use mainstream media attention. So our strength is really
(14:45):
in TV news, newspapers, radio, organic attention, isn't it. Yeah,
you're not actually paying for that marketing. It's all organic,
which is fantastic. We do have a really funny story though,
and I'm going to leave some names out of it
just to protect the potential client that we met with,
But we had a really funny meeting and we basically
(15:06):
had this big love fest with this potential client. They
were saying how they've always wanted to work with us,
and they've been following us on LinkedIn and they love
what we're doing, and we had always wanted to work
with them too, so we were saying we loved their work,
they loved our ideas, like, yeah, this sounds great. And
then and then they said, oh, we're really excited because
we're about to launch this event and we're having these
(15:28):
particular influences be the face of the event. And at
this time, these influencers were just facing so much backlash online,
very problemat very problematic. And I said to them, oh,
so have you locked these influences in, because I would
highly advise against using them because they are copying it
online and you probably don't want to be associated with
(15:50):
them because it's going to make your brand look bad.
And they said, we don't care. Let's just say we
never worked with that client. We see after that meeting,
we never heard from them again. And I did think
it was a very interesting marketing technique to want to
align yourself with very controversial people, because I personally don't
think that that's the best move for a brand. But
(16:11):
that's probably been the only time because we have discussed
these particular influences on the podcast, and that's the only
time the podcast has really collided without professional.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Lives Now what about UK?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So I also did a bit of shitkicking at Channel
ten as well, writing the weather script and doing the AUTOQ.
I also did auto Q and library at Channel seven,
which is like basically a journalist will ask you to
go find some footage. So it was all very important
things there. I then took a little bit of a
different turn. I did copywriting at a company called zib
(16:43):
Media for three years. In that time, I moved to Melbourne,
which was really cool, and then I moved back to
Adelaide and started working at the Adelaide Thunderbirds as a
communication manager. And then I moved across to Basketball and
worked as a media manager for the thirty six is
I really love that job. It was amazing. I got
to travel with the team to Utah, I got to
(17:05):
go to Singapore.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It was a really good gig.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
But unfortunately, due to COVID, I got made redundant. So
now I work in digital marketing, so I look after
a lot of high profile social media accounts and head
up the marketing and rebranding that we're currently doing. So
it's quite interesting going. I feel like I've had quite
a different career path to you, Amy and sof but
we've kind of all ended up. Like at the moment,
(17:30):
Amy and Sophie are helping me with the company rebrand.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So it's quite cool to be able to work with.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You guys in a different area other than the podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Now we have received a few questions about dating, and
one person wrote, what is the worst date you've ever
been on? I feel like I can answer that one.
So I was dating this guy and I invited him
over for dinner. So I cooked him spaghetti bolonnaise and
he basically I think you forgot that he was meant
(18:00):
to be coming over, And it was really embarrassing because
Amy and Sophie used to live with me, so I
kind of kicked them out of the house. I think
we still had our Christmas tree up and it was like,
oh my god, I cut those We had two Christmas
trees in our house, that's what I mean, and I
cut them up because we knew this guy was coming
over and it was probably like March or February or something,
and we're like, oh my god, he would judge us
(18:21):
for having these trees still up. We were the best
sisters when we, Sophie, because you called us. I think
it was like at three o'clock and he was coming
over at six or something and we're like, oh my god,
we were cleaning up the house for you. Then I
remember I cleared out of the house for hours.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So we weren't around it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, it didn't actually end up being hours, because he
begrudgingly came over and then he literally told me that
he was meeting his friends in like half an hour
at the movies, did not invite me. I ate the
dinner and then left. But it's so rude, pissed off.
It was so rude. I actually just feel mortified even
thinking about it now, because I had to call you guys, like, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
They've left.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And then I remember watching Housewives of Sydney, so it
wasn't all anyway. Do you guys have any stories to share? Oh?
I mean, the only worst date story I can think
of is when I went out on a date with
this guy that I didn't even want to go out with.
You guys pushed me to go on this date, and
then you decided to drive a past where we were
(19:22):
having dinner. So we were sitting outside having dinner in
the city and you guys went by in a car
with our cousins and decided to take snapchat photos of me.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Which you then sent to me. That was pretty awkward.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think my worst date was with a prison guard,
which sounds really random, but set me up with him anyway,
and it was It's not that he was awful.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
He was actually really lovely, but.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
We just had nothing in common. And you know those
dates like five years ago where you just used to
go to a coffee shop and we're just sitting there
and just thinking, I have nothing to ask about you
know what You've just He was pretty hot, though, was.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm being tall?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's about it and boring. Anyway, I think let's let's
let's get on.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I like these questions.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Someone said what is the podcast world really like?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And we've got to admit.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I mean we're in Adelaide, so I don't actually know
any other podcast. It's a podcast here, Yeah she does,
but we don't know her unfortunately. But I feel like
the podcast world is very tight knit, Like I feel
like there's lots of dramas going on behind the scenes.
Everyone's in Melbourne that has a big podcast. I actually
think somebody should do a reality show about what really
(20:38):
goes on in the podcast well, because some of the
stories I have heard are super juicy. I'm not going
to divulge any secrets, but there's a lot going on. Sometimes.
I thank God, Like, if you spoke about the stuff
that's going on behind the scenes in the podcast, you're
that podcast, We're going number one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, it would be so good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Anyway, moving on quick fire question, who are your dream
guests have on the show? I have an answer and
I feel like yours might match up. I wrote down
Taylor Swift, anyone from Money Heist, Rafael Nadale, and then
in terms of influencers, I said Anastasia kings North, Molly
may Or, Saffron Barker. Because I feel like the UK
(21:16):
influencers see more famous. To me, I don't think we'd
have an Aussie influencer other than Britt Saunders and maybe
Michael Finch that would agree to become on.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Kate, I don't would agree to come.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
To our show.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay, I don't think we'd have Rafael nadal on.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I love him, but I don't really think he's in
the pop culture space and he probably couldn't understand us
that well. I just thinking who I'd want to talk to.
I'd want to talk to, I'd want to have on,
Stacy Dooley, I'd want to have on.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I love Julian.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Michaels, if Princess Diana, if it was somebody that you
could hire, let's not here anymore and Ursa the carverro
from Money Heist? Is it wrong that all I can
think of is Molly May As you say, Kay, I
would love to have Molly may on the show. Maybe
she could drop one of those not so popular summaries
about having you know, the same twenty four hours in
(22:03):
the day, So then that would shoot your podcast up
the charts. Man, Yeah, maybe it will coerce into saying
something controversial. Oh this is else I really really want
to have Chappelle Corby on the podcast one day. Yes,
that's that's a big one for us. On a similar
vein which three famous people would you invite to a
dinner party, alive or dead? I had Taylor Swift, Hillary
(22:24):
Duff and Ursula Carbero.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Oh they're good ones.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Don't you think that'd be a great girls night.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
All those three?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yes, because you have to think about if the other
guests would get along as well. Okay, mine are Molly
may Well.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
You're gonna have Molly May out of.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Everybody in the world, moll May Wait, is this dead
or alive? Or just your life? Molly May, Princess Diana
and Michael Jackson. So you're choosing Molly May over Taylor Swift? Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, are you? I was trying to keep it different.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Everyone doesn't want to hear us say the same thing. Actually,
I I'm maybe on a backtrack. I won the professor
as well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh, yes, all right, I think.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
We can't stick to three. What's one of our next questions, Kate?
So the next question is tell me about influences you
have met in person. Now, I have a very funny
story that I have shared on the podcast before, but
for new listeners, I met Shany Grimmand and Chloe Zepp
at the airport. Now this was I think in twenty
seventeen when they were in there. Well, Shany was definitely
in her peak. I think Chloe was still up and coming,
(23:27):
and I was so excited. I was on a work
trip and I saw her and I made another girl
come over and I asked for a photo with Shanny
and Chloe Zepp actually took the photo, and I felt
really rude because I didn't realize it was Chloe and
she was actually so lovely. She was like, yeah, no worries,
let me take the photo. And Shanny was just so quiet,
which I had heard before, but it was kind of
(23:48):
weird because she's usually larger than life on her channel.
So yeah, it was a bizarre experience. ALSOF and I
have mentioned before for og listeners that we have met
Sarah's Day and Kert and that was through work.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
So basic.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We had a client, a national client, who we were
doing a news story for them, and we needed talent
in the story and we needed a first homeowner who
had an interesting job, like an influence or a content creator.
So we asked Kurt Tills to be in the story.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
We ended up going to their apartment. Kurt was lovely.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Sarah wasn't there during the interview, but she did arrive
later and we had a bit of a chat with her.
I have to say, it was so bizarre to be
in their apartment because it literally felt like you'd walked
inside their YouTube channel. And yeah, the two of them
were super lovely. Some listeners may remember that Kurt did
share a series of Instagram stories about our podcast after
(24:39):
we did a segment on his and Sarah's wedding, and
basically he almost referred that we were clout chasers, because when.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We think he called us cloud chasers, didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Oh, I'm not sure if the complete wording, but perhaps
I'm pretty sway. And he said we were lovely girls
we have met, but that we had asked them to
be involved in a Netflix documentary that we were working on,
and I feel like we've never really cleared this up.
So basically, since I think twenty seventeen, we have been
working with some production companies on a documentary about Fitzpo.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So basically we.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Were wanting to look into a couple of different diets
as triplets we wanted to try those diets out and
we were working with Tarren Brunfit, who some of you
might know. Basically, when we did meet up with them,
we did want to involve them in some area of
the podcast, seeing as they are you know, to the
stocko the doco, sorry, seeing as they are to you know,
Sarah is a huge health and fitness blog. It. So
(25:34):
what happened was we told Sarah and Kurd about the doco.
They said they loved it, and we said we'd love
to send them some more information and if they were interested,
it would be great to get them on camera if
the documentary did get picked up, because we were talking
to a number of producers at the time. Anyway, we
ended up emailing them information and we never ever heard
from them. We followed up a few times and there
(25:54):
was no reply. So it was quite ironic because Kurt
mentioned in the Insta story that they had politely declined.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And he implied that perhaps that is why we were.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Then discussing them on the podcast, because he was under
the impression that we were talking about them negatively when
we actually weren't.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So was it a few cross there.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It was a few cross wires, but I have to
say they were lovely in person.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Subsequently, you know, we've had little run ins here and there.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But another influencer I have met is Kayla. I don't
even want to say her last name because every time
we've seen this thank you, I'm not going to even
bother because everyone says I say it wrong.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And she was extremely lovely.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So I interviewed her once for Today tonight. There was
a story about up and coming influences, ironically, and then
I did another story on her at seven News and
it was so funny because it turned out that she
actually went to the same high school as us, and
I was her peer support leader and I had completely
forgotten so we bonded a lot on people at school
who weren't so nice.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And she's just so down to earth.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, someone who's worth that much money and has been
so successful at a young age, he's incredibly down to earth. Yeah,
this is how small Adelaide is. Our mum actually was
teaching TRT teaching with her mum. So that was just
Adelaide in a bloody nutshell for you. I think we
need to wrap this up and go into the last question,
and we have got a lot more questions that we
haven't answered. So if you are interested in us doing
(27:13):
a follow up episode, who knows. You might have found
this very boring, but if you did enjoy it, let
us know and we will do a part two. But
let's finish on a good one. What were your first
impressions of each other's part? Oh? Wow, so of Reese?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So yeah, Which is that it's difficult because I have heard
I had heard so much about Reese before I actually
met him, because Kate and Reese worked together and he
actually had a girlfriend at the time when Kate scandalous. Yeah,
when Kate and Reese met, So i'd kind of heard
that Kate liked this guy to work, but he had
a girlfriend, So it was so weird when you guys
(27:52):
finally got together. I'd heard so much about him, but
I just thought he was really nice and sweet.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
He's very quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's kind of like, I don't know, you know, when
someone's quiet and you kind of want to impress them
and you want them to like you. They kind of
demand some power when they're quiet, and you think what
they're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Is really very polite and lovely.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
My first impression was that he was a bit fancy
because he was always wearing a suit around the basketball stadium.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Really, I did think he was.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Very cute as well, because you had showed me some
photos and yeah, I just was wanting him to dump
the girlfriend and for you guys to get together. But Kate,
what about Brandon because he was your intern, As the
podcast listeners will know, you met.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Him before I did.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, for those newbies. So his partner, well fiance, was
my intern when I was working at the Adelaide Thunderbirds
and he came in to be interviewed and I was
at the scene. I was extremely desperate to have a
videographer working for us because we didn't have one. So
an email popped up in my inbox saying that this
person was very keen. It was a very great email.
(28:54):
I found out later that his sister had written, so.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I was really impressed. I say to my boss, Oh
my god, there's this guy called Brandon. Let's get him in.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Anyway, he came in, and my dealings with videographers in
the past had been that they were very nerdy, and
he came in and I thought he was a lot
cooler than the other the other people that had come in,
So I was like, oh, yeah, this guy seems pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So we got him go.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Entrition was that he was cool, I have to tell
Brann And yeah, well I think he was wearing like
a loose beanie and he kind of like strutted in
and I just thought, and I just thought, I'll probably
get on well with this guy, like he just seems
like a bit more normal than some of the really
nerdy camera guys. Nice when I met him, because I
met him through the Thunderbirds too, because at I, oh,
(29:40):
you guys roped me into dressing up as tory T.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You were unemployed at the time. I wasn't unemployed. I
was going through a legal.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Battle against the large networks, so yes, I had some
time in my hands, and so yeah, I was dressing
up as tory T Bird and we were filming videos
and it was actually lots of fun. I do remember
thinking that Brownon was a lot of fun. And I
also remember thinking, I don't even know if this is
a term people use, but a bit of a.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Jack the lad, I jack the la.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I thought he was out drinking and he was always
telling us how he's at the woolshed and all this stuff.
And it turns out he does not drink alcohol at all,
so my first impression was wrong. Yeah. He also was
like a very country boy, so used to tell us
about insects he's killed and stuff, which really did not
impress me. Anyway. Let's get onto Amy's partner, Dale's, so.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
We all thought he was a bit of a dream boat.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I remember he walked into our white party and I
was like, wow, he's really good looking.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So yeah, he does make a good first impression.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I remember I was shocked, shocked to my core.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That he came to our party because every other dickhead
guy that we've dated seems to just not give a fuck.
And he turned up with a box of chocolates, which
I was like, oh my god, that's so kind. So yeah,
I remember I kind of got like a popular boy
really like I was kind of like, why is a year?
But now that I know him, it's just so not
(31:01):
what I thought, like not saying, he's just obviously like
really yeah, very down to earth and got particular interests
in like camping and I don't know, fire safety, Like
it's just not what I was expecting. I do remember
there were a few girls who were there and their
heads turned.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I saw them look at Dale and I was kind
of like, back off his mind.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, we did say that was our last question, but
I do remember in the intro we did preview that
we'd be answering the question about some legal stuff because
we have had a few threats. Have you threats thrown around?
And let's be honest, we have had threats, but having
studied media law, there's no there's no validity to any
(31:43):
there's no bases to any of these threats. But that
being said, there's never been a legal letter. It's just
some people kind of referencing in DMS. Yeah, so all
of the threats have been baseless and we haven't taken
any of them seriously. But I think that's all we've
got time for today. We do hope you did enjoy
this Q and A episode. If you did enjoy it,
(32:03):
please make sure that you're subscribed, and also please.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
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