Sarah’s Day’s unsurprising baby announcement. Ruby Tuesday Matthews causes confusion after showing off her second engagement ring…AND Rachel Dillon’s wedding hiccup.
* Trigger warning - We discuss issues surrounding fertility.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's unsurprising baby announcement.
Ruby Tuesday, Matthews causes confusion after showing off her second
engagement ring and Rachel Dylan's wedding hiccup. Hello and welcome
to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and
pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert, and
(00:24):
I have a question for you guys. Would you raw
dog someone's Instagram story?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I would never. That is a cardinal scene.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Why raw dog and Instagram story when you can create
a finster and look at it whenever you want, Like
that is just lazy. I just love the term raw
dog for those who are a little bit confused. It
means going in on your own personal account and not
giving a shit about looking blatantly at someone's story because like,
of course you can go and see who looks at
your story if you're bothered. I would never do this
(00:52):
to an everyday person with a normal following, but I
will raw dog large influencers who I don't follow, I
will look at their story They're.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Never gonna know.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, that's different, because I mean, who is going to
go through if you've got a million followers, it's going
to go through it, but it is very ballsy to
do it with someone who's got like two hundred followers,
and I again I agree, I wouldn't do it. That's
why you set up a finster. Yes, there's a bit
of work involved, but at least you have the freedom
to go and look at whoever store you like that,
and if you accidentally do raw Dog, because sometimes you
(01:23):
can accidentally do it because you don't know, maybe there's
an Instagram story, maybe you thought you were looking at
their profile pick you can actually block the person and
your name will disappear from their following. This is from
an experienced instagrammer. So you block them for a day,
you disappear from that list. Don't you think it's so
funny when you do see someone who has raw Dog
or Instagram story, you're like wow, like what led you
(01:47):
here down this path? And you make up all these
assumptions in your head. I saw someone talking about this
on TikTok and a lot of commenters were saying that
they have actually had an experience where the person whose
Instagram story they looked at then message them and said
who are you and why are you looking at my
Instagram story. My ex's new girlfriend, well not really new girlfriend,
(02:08):
has been raw dogging my Instagram stories for three years
and I want to say why. And the worst bit is,
you guys have been broken up for ten years. It's
not like it's a new thing. But I feel for
that girl. I actually think so for you would be
amazing friends with her. The fact that she is going
out and looking at your profile all the time. You're
quite similar people. I definitely am not saying that I'm
above stalking my partner's xes and that sort of thing,
(02:29):
but I think do it in a fake name, have
a certain level of respect for yourself to not just
pop up in their feet. You do end up creating
this almost roster for yourself that you regularly stalk. And
then you're really thrown one of these people dares to
put their page on private, You're like, hang on, I've
just been cut off.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it's like there is celebrity.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, you've bought into their life. You want to know
when they're seeing Jessica on the weekend, or what they're
puppies up to, or did they break up with that
boyfriend of yours And it's gone so much past the
point of them dating your ex, Like, it's more that
you're just invested in their life and like, oh, what
are they doing now?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
After this weed to pack?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And everyone has been really nice to meet because I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Sarah's Day has announced she's expecting her third child with
her husband, Kurt Tills Now Kate. It is the news
everyone has been waiting for since Sarah shared in December
that she was starting to try. I don't think anyone
was too surprised by this news because she has been
baiting it for quite some time now.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What I was interested to see was how she decided.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
To make the announcement. So she picked at Instagram reel
and also a YouTube video, and the Instagram reel included
a photo shoot. It's quite a grungey photo shoot and
it was very moody. It was reminiscent of m Davies's pregnancy.
Announcing is actually the latest that Sarah has waited to
announce her pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
She is fifteen weeks pregnant and.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It's down to the fact that Kurt has been too
busy to film and take photos of the announcement, and
Sarah said that she wanted to do something really simple
and laid back, but Kurt really wanted to do something
out there and epic, yah, but they didn't end up
having time, so they did go with Sarah's concept, which
I think is quite a rehash one. As we said,
like a lot of influencers are getting into a photo
studio filming their partner, putting their hands on their star
(04:22):
mich like, it's nothing revolutionary.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
There would be so.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Much pressure on Sarah and Kurt to make this a
big announcement though, because remember her first baby announcement with Fox,
that video has been viewed millions of time. Yes, the
difference is though that was a massive surprise, whereas this one,
like Sarah has been very open about the fact that
she is trying to have a baby. I did enjoy
the YouTube video because you did get a real insight
into how desperate she really was to have this third baby.
(04:49):
And I think the most relatable part of the vlog
was the fact that her mum and sisters guessed that
she was pregnant because she was so grumpy. So it
ended up that the night before she took the pregnancy test,
she'd had this this big fight with her sister at
family dinner, and she said normally they don't actually fight, however,
they're very brutal with each other. And this time the
brutal comment really got to her and she stormed out,
(05:10):
and I was like, this is every family dinner at
our house like this?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Literally, are you guys pregnant?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Because well, I mean, I was gonna put it back
on you because I think one of your biggest pregnancy
symptoms has been being grumpy.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So it was quite relatable in saying that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I was shocked how many pregnancy tests that she took,
because aren't those things fairly expensive. I remember being quite
taken about how expensive pregnancy tests were when I bought one,
and I didn't want any confusion, so I did buy
the expensive digital one. But I did notice that Sarah
had a lot of the cheaper ones where they do
the two lines, and then when she thought, okay, I'm
pretty sure I am pregnant, she did confirm it with
(05:44):
the digital she brought out the big boys.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I liked how Sarah said that she's not normally easily
offended and everyone in the comments I was like, wait
a second, you're offended by.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
This, this, this, this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I also found it interesting that she told her sister
that she was pregnant before Kurt. Maybe it's because of
this is a contentious topic with us, Kate, because you
took I think nine or ten weeks to tell us anything. Yeah,
but this is her third pregnancy, so I think with
your first pregnancy, you need to tell your partner first. Also,
did you notice that she inadvertently actually announced her sister's
(06:17):
pregnancy because she's like, oh, you're four weeks behind you now. Yeah,
but her sister might have already done that on her
own Instagram. But her sister is quite private, so I
have noticed that her sister doesn't like to share her
daughter's face on social media.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But it has popped up a few times on Sarah's channel.
Doesn't she have some podcast? Because isn't she? She was?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
She did have a midwife podcast, But I think that's
fallen to the ways i'd actually tried to find that recently.
One thing that did shock me the most was when
Sarah announced the news to her parents. They panned across
to the dinner table. They're writing takeaway Pizza, I really died.
Didn't Dad make some joke and say, oh, is it yours? Kurt?
That is just Dad slowed down to a t because
(06:56):
when we shared your announcement to us Kate, when you
reveal all of the men were just shaking hands. Yeah,
I feel like that's the dad thing to shake hands
and then making.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Joke and the question of the paternity.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I think that's just like the Aussie way to kind
of make light of the situation. It is very clear
that this type of content really does work for Sarah.
We've spoken a lot on this podcast how big milestones
like having a baby or getting married is content gold
for influencers, and the baby Real announcement has had two
point five million views so far at the time of recording.
(07:28):
She also followed it up with two more pregnancy related
real so. She filmed this video and Get Ready with
Me for her baby announcement photo shoot that has had
one point four million views. The second was actually a
real promoting her maternity workout program Body and Bump. So
she said that she's been consistently doing this program since
she fell pregnant. That reel has one point two million views,
(07:50):
So it's pretty clear that this is a very good
content strategy for it. I'm not saying she's had the
baby for content, no, but it's something that draws a
lot of interest around her, and I did have a
look at Social Blade and last month she actually lost
over fifteen hundred followers. However, in the last couple of
days since she made this announcement, she's attracted at three
(08:11):
point one thousand new followers, and I feel like that
number is only going.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
To go up.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I do feel like often Sarah will use her baby
announcements as a little bit of a redemption arc. We
have spoken a lot about how she has been hemorrhaging followers.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Do you guys think that this.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Pregnancy announcement will be enough for Sarah to gain relevance
in twenty twenty four. Look, I definitely don't think that
she's just having a baby because she's had a laalin
followers and she's trying to think of a way to
get them back. I think it's saying that, but I
think her strategy has been very different than it has
been the last pregnancies because we've never seen her be
so open about her conception journey. She has really been
(08:49):
sharing the details, and I think it's also, you know,
put a few people off because people have actually questioned
how sensitive she's been because she is someone that clearly
finds it quite easy to fall pregnant, and she spoke
a lot about how it was hard on her because
it took four months this time, whereas last time it only.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Took one try.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean, I did find it a little bit uncomfortable
to put out there, you know, the amount of times
that you're trying and going into those sorts of details.
I think that the reason she's sharing differently about this
pregnancy is because her pregnancy with Malachi was high risk
and he had a lot of medical problems, and she
probably shut down and didn't want to share about it,
and she received a lot of criticism when she did
(09:30):
share about it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I also think it's.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Due to the changing nature of social media and TikTok.
I think that there are more creators on TikTok who
are falling into these niches where they are sharing about
their pregnancy journey ahead of time. And I think that
she really relates to that content and wants to share it,
and she's seen other people do so I'm a little
bit surprised she hasn't used the tactic we've seen Aspenovi
I'd use, which is actually pre filming the content and
(09:54):
then putting it out there because I think she really
did put herself in a vulnerable position to be sharing
live updates about how long it was going to take
her to conceive. Yeah, it's interesting though, So if you
mentioned Malachi's health problems, I'm surprised she's being so open
now because of that experience. I'm almost surprised she didn't
pull back completely. Well, I suppose maybe because she's fifteen
(10:17):
weeks pregnant, so she has waited a little bit longer.
So maybe she's already had a ton of those tests
done and she's got they okay. I also think it
has to do with the fact that Sarah shared that
her sister Emily was struggling with her fertility when Sarah
felt pregnant with Malachi so quickly, so I think she
was trying to protect her sister as well. It is
really difficult when you do make a pregnancy announcement to
(10:37):
make sure that you don't upset anyone because obviously fertility
is one of those touchy topics where you are going
to trigger people. How do you think she's navigated this process.
I think you do have to be mindful, But at
the same time, I think a lot of influencers feel
like everything they do is wrong. So it's a very
sensitive topic and one little thing that you say can
trigger someone. I think that she be an unpopular opinion,
(11:01):
but I think that she has actually tried really hard
not to offend anyone and to do a lot of
trigger warnings and preface things that She's very lucky. I
wish we haven't seen her do before. See, I actually disagree.
I think that it can come across as quite disingenuous
when you put a disclaim in but then still say
something that is going to trigger someone. So she has
(11:22):
very openly spoken in the last couple of months about
how her first baby, Fox was a love child, and
then she said she fell pregnant with Malachi straight away,
and that you know, she detailed how many times she
had sex with Kurt and order for that to happen.
And now she's almost trying to get sympathy for it
taking a couple of months longer than she thought with
her third child, even though four months is a very
(11:44):
quick time around.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
If I was struggling to conceive, I would definitely unfollow
Sarah's day. And I think the tricky thing with Sarah
is that she built her brand originally on talking about
fertility issues that she was having. PCOS was such a
big part of her channel, and it's so fantastic that
she is able to feel pregnant so easily. However, I
think because she would know that she has a fan
(12:08):
base that probably followed her from the start because they
may have potentially had the same fertility issues, it would
be difficult to be following this journey along and not
be triggered. I actually think the pregnancy would be a
happy time for her, but also a stressful time for
her because she does know that she has the added
scrutiny on everything that she does, particularly being a fitness influencer,
(12:29):
whether she gets back into it too quickly, whether she's
promoting on ahealthy lifestyle. But she's invited that scrutiny by
literally before she's even conceived inviting people along the journey. Yeah,
and the whole thing is regardless of what she posts,
I think anyone sharing baby news when you're struggling to
conceive is going to be upsetting. But I think what
you're trying to say, Kate is that she almost shares
too many details about.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It eighties Frost Yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Ruby Tuesday Matthews has showed off a second engagement ring,
almost three years after being proposed to by her fiance,
Shannon Dodd now on a surprise romantic getaway. Ruby shared
two separate Instagram stories showing off the new ring. So
this ring is almost identical to her original engagement ring.
So it's a large rectangular diamond. It is around three
(13:18):
point eight carrots, so it's a little bit larger than
her original ring. And in the photo, the new ring
was stacked on top of the original engagement ring. And
in the post she wrote saying yes again and tagged
her fiance. And in the second post she did another
close up shot of the ring and said yes again
and tagged a jewelry brand.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This really confused me.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Is this a new thing where if you don't get
married in a certain amount of years that you then
get a second engagement ring, Because if that was the case,
I might have put out my wedding vewe well, my
engagement was over two years. I think I'm owed as
secondary engagement ring. It definitely did lead to a lot
of confusion and many people thought, well, maybe Shannon and
Ruby had split and this is a second proposal. Surely
(14:01):
you wouldn't want to promote the fact that we've actually
broken up since being engaged the first time.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
No, but well you wouldn't. But there has been a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Speculation that they broke up last year because Shannon hadn't
appeared on any of Ruby's Instagram posts since February, and
they also weren't liking one another's post, which is a
telltale sign. But she put the rumors to bed back
in June, saying, I love my kids and I'm not separated.
I'm very much committed and engaged in my relationship. There
are things I sometimes like to keep private. This was
(14:29):
also around the time that Ruby had checked into a
facility to get help for a nervous breakdown, so there
were a lot of rumors around that time. So that
is what is leading everyone to think, well, maybe there's
a second proposal because of a break up. It's a
strange one because I have seen influencers share when their
engagement ring has been upgraded. So remember Georgie Stevens got
(14:50):
a new engagement ring, but that was after they got married.
I think even Beck Judd has had a improved engagement ring.
But the fact that she has stacked the new and
the old one on t top of each other.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's very ruby, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I wonder if this is some kind of marketing ploy.
I have seen a lot of people advertising dupes of
their rings. Maybe this is some kind of jupe copy.
I mean, it's a bit bigger. I don't think as
a jupe, but I do think that she is trying
to drum up engagement for this new jewelry business, because
I had a look at the brand. So it's called
two Jaws and the account was launched on the twenty
(15:25):
seventh of March. It only has one hundred and ninety
three followers and six posts, and two of the posts
feature Ruby's new engagement ring. So I wonder if this
is a friend's business, she's trying to create some engagement
around it. I did love in our Facebook group that
a lot of people were commenting on the photo because
it was Ruby's hand with so much jewelry on it,
and someone's like, how much does that hand cost?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Because she had.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Several Cartier rings, two Cartier bracelets, two engagement rings, Like
really going to have to bump up your household insurance
with that? It does come at a weird time to
do this lavish display of wealth because she recently complained
that she and her fiance were feeling the mortgage pinch,
so it kind of comes at odds with that now
(16:07):
since the speculation around these rings, she actually did delete
the two Instagram stories. But it gets even more confusing
because then on Monday, she followed up with a feed
post about the ring, writing double whammy. Yesterday, I was
beyond spoiled by Shannon with a spa day, massages and
Margi's and a night away, a Blackbird Byron and a
beautiful dinner. We are so lucky to have a daddy
(16:29):
like you, and I'm lucky to have you as my
best friend. Life isn't simple or easy, especially with me,
but I'm grateful for your commitment to our family and
by always sticking it out. This is a big statement because,
as you said, a lot of people have been questioning
whether the pair have broken up or their status of
relationship always seems to be up.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
In the air.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So while there is a part of me that does
think this is a part of a partnership, I also
think it's a declaration of their love, and I do
wonder if we will see Ruby now getting into some
wedding planning. There were a lot of followers who were
excited for Ruby about the second engagement ring, but there
were also.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Others who question why the need for a second engagement ring?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, a lot of people said it was actually very greedy,
and Ruby responded to one of these comments and said,
I actually agree with a lot of what you've said,
But in saying that, I think the biggest message here
is the assumption that I got another diamond that would
be absolutely gluttonous. There are many other sustainable options to
add a little sparkle to your life without costing the
planet or your pocket.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It sounds like an ad.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So is she talking about mozernite rings or lab diamonds?
Is she trying to obviously say, well, this jeweler does
amazing lab diamonds that everyone will believe is a real diamond.
The more I hear about this, the more I think
that this is a big ad.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, one's rocking those two huge rings.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Finger No, Because Emily Radikowski recently revealed her divorce ring.
So she had a princess cut diamond and also a
pear shaped diamond on one band, but then after her divorce,
she had it reworked into two separate rings, and she
said that it's part of her personal evolution. And I
don't think a woman should be stripped of her diamonds
(18:08):
just because she's losing a man, which I think is
a great message. So when I first saw Ruby's two
rings together, I thought, are they separated or what is
going on.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To break up engagement with?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Has she refashioned it?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Because there's a huge relationship announcement coming, but a negative one.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We are fourteen weeks out from the wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
We are upping the Auntie Finnis influencer Rachel Dylan married
entrepreneur Toby Pierce in Italy late last week. The pinterest
worthy wedding didn't go off without a hitch though.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, this really surprised me.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So a couple of days out from the wedding, Rachel
revealed on TikTok that she actually had to reschedule the
date because of the weather. So the couple jetted off
to Italy early last week and they've been living it
up in Capri as all brides do so for you
know this, they were keeping a keen eye on the
weather report and according to the weather report, it was
set to rain on their wedding day. So it's currently
(19:01):
spring in Italy, and while Rachel and Toby had expected
it to be a little bit cooler, they were hoping
for a nice sunny day for their outdoor wedding. Now,
five days out from the big day, Rachel's wedding planner
organized an emergency meeting and she proposed rescheduling the wedding.
It sounds worse than it is, though. They actually ended
up moving the wedding celebrations one day forward, which meant
(19:23):
that they would get sunshine on all of the wedding
day events, so it was a multi day wedding. I
was watching this eagerly because I really felt for Rachel,
because a week out from my wedding I found that
it was going to be thirty five degrees and it
started to grow to forty degrees and a little bit
of me was envious, thinking, gee, I wish I had
the ability and the money to move everything a day
(19:44):
forward or a day back, But unfortunately for me, we
had a heat wave the whole weekend, so that was
not a possibility. Well, I don't think it would have
been easy logistically because it turned out that bringing the
date forward meant that some of the guests who were
traveling across from overseas ended up missing the welcome dinner.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh sorry, thought you're gonna say the wedding. Can you
imagine that? It's like, oh, yeah, fuck you guys.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
We care more about You've flown all the way over
there and you miss it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well it was.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It was actually a very intimate wedding, So she and
Toby invited fifty guests, so there was only a handful
that actually missed out on this welcome dinner. What I
couldn't believe about this dinner was the fact that everyone
has been focusing on what one of her bridesmaids Isabelle
Mathers war So Isabelle, she is an influencer and model.
She's fucking stunning, But so was Rachel Dillon. The whole
(20:32):
wedding party were beautiful. I just couldn't get over how
stunning they all looked together. So the Daily Mail have
gone out and done this story about how Isabelle tried
to outshine the bride at this welcome dinner. So when
you do look at the dress, it was very revealing.
It is a sheer cream dress, sort of a bit
like a ball gown, and it's got this diamond cutout
(20:53):
where it shows off Isabelle's apps. She looks stunning, but
so did Rachel Dillon.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
She was wearing a.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Short, cue white dress, looked perfect for the event.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
They all looked good.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I don't like it because in this situation, it's actually
the media who was pitting these two women against each other.
Because it would be a different scenario if Rachel came
out after the wedding and said, Hey, I was a little upset.
My friend actually purposely tried to outshine me. Just say
if she did that and something that question never happened,
but some people might. Some people do share stories and say, oh,
I've had a falling out with this friend over extraanzettes.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Later or years later.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But I think that in this situation where everything seemed
to be planned to the absolute tea, Isabelle would have
got permission to wear that gown and she actually did
come out and say that. Because so the Daily Mail
have picked up on this story because a couple of
people in the comments said, oh, this was an inappropriate
dress for you to wear, and you tried to outshine
the bride, and she came out and said, the bride
(21:49):
is my best friend. You don't think I've discussed every
single one of my outfits with her.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't like the whole outshining the bride thing because
I personally have the theory that if you get really
dressed up for a friend's wedding, it's actually quite a
compliment because you've made a big effort. I find it
more offensive when people don't make an effort at someone's wedding. Well,
the thing is, it wasn't even at her wedding, was
at her bloody welcome dinner. I have to disagree with you, guys.
(22:14):
I can see why people are up in arms about this.
She has come along to this wedding dinner. Rachel is
wearing white because she is the bride to be. This
dress is like a sheer white dress. It's showing off
her amazing abs. It kind of does like it does
take the focus off.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
What Rachel is wearing.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But Rachel wouldn't have included Isabelle in her wedding if
she was concerned about that. I mean, the girl is
absolutely stunning. They're all stunning, as I said before, and
they were getting ready together. So if they're best friends.
Surely there would have been a point where she could
have said, do you mind, not worry.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think it's a really.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Sad concept that anyone is out shining anyone, because, as
you said, Kate, Rachel is absolutely stunning in her own right.
All of the women are stunning. Why does anyone out
shine anyone. I think people get confused when brides allow
their bridesmaids to actually look nice at these events, because
there is that old trope of a bride trying to
(23:09):
dress their bridesmaids in some hideous dress that they never
want to wear again and making.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Them look bad in order for them to look better.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah. I just think it's clear that Rachel is very
confident in herself and was like, I want everyone to
look good. I think it just reeks of insecurity to
try and purposely make your bridesmaids look bad. They're your
friends and they're there for a reason. You want them
to feel confident and comfortable as well.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now I want to.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Get into the wedding day because I could not get
over the place where they got ready. It looked straight
from a Pinterest board, with that breakfast overlooking the mountains.
That was incredible. I do love how Rachel's mum was
keeping it real though, because they showed her steaming the
dresses and it just reminded me of our mum doing
the same thing. I'm surprised they could have just paid
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someone to be there to yeah, but that's the way.
It was nice because it was clearly a very expensive wedding,
a lavish wedding, but then they had touches of oh,
that's so normal for them to do that. One thing
that really stood out to me was how different this
was to Kayla at Senas's wedding. So Kayla and Toby
were of course engaged and they have a daughter, Anna together,
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and Kayla was very open about the fact that she
was happy to go to a registry office. She didn't
care about having a big ceremony. She just wanted it
to be her and Jay. Her pa actually talked it
into having a wedding in her backyard. I mean, it
wasn't your typical backyard wedding. It was beautiful, but this
wedding between Toby and Rachel, this was a pinterest wedding.
This is one of the most beautiful weddings of an
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Australian influencer. I have seen for a very long time.
It just shows you how different Rachel and Kayla are,
even though they have both been compared the whole time,
and everyone's like, oh, well, he's just dating another I
mean fitness influence, And of course.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Neither is right or wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Ye like, whichever way they want to get married. But
it was quite interesting having the wedding so close and
being able to compare the aesthetic and how they went
about it. Do you think Toby had much to do
with the wedding. I actually do think it has to
do with Toby as well, because if you do cast
your mind back, I think they had quite an elaborate
engagement party him and Kayla back in the day. I
get the vibe he's more flash than you. Yeah, I
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think that this wedding is going to dictate a lot
of wedding trends moving forward. She did have light yellow
bridesmaid dresses, and I'm kicking myself because for the past
two years I've been talking about wanting to do yellow
bridesmaid dresses. I didn't have the nerve to do it,
and now I'm seeing them pop up everywhere. Even Margo
Robbie was in a wedding recently for her friend and
was wearing a light yellow fucking brides maid dress?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
What did I do?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
My advice would be just to get over it because
over no, I know, by the time you get the
wedding video, no one cares. I know you guys are
getting your soon.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But I came no.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I mean, I think I've just got to unfollow a
lot of these wedding pages. I think that's what you
got to do. Well, that's so they're going to leave
things for today. Thank you so much for listening to
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land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
We pay respect to elders past and present.
Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's unsurprising baby announcement.
Ruby Tuesday, Matthews causes confusion after showing off her second
engagement ring and Rachel Dylan's wedding hiccup. Hello and welcome
to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and
pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert, and
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I have a question for you guys. Would you raw
dog someone's Instagram story?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I would never. That is a cardinal scene.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Why raw dog and Instagram story when you can create
a finster and look at it whenever you want, Like
that is just lazy. I just love the term raw
dog for those who are a little bit confused. It
means going in on your own personal account and not
giving a shit about looking blatantly at someone's story because like,
of course you can go and see who looks at
your story if you're bothered. I would never do this
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to an everyday person with a normal following, but I
will raw dog large influencers who I don't follow, I
will look at their story They're.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Never gonna know.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, that's different, because I mean, who is going to
go through if you've got a million followers, it's going
to go through it, but it is very ballsy to
do it with someone who's got like two hundred followers,
and I again I agree, I wouldn't do it. That's
why you set up a finster. Yes, there's a bit
of work involved, but at least you have the freedom
to go and look at whoever store you like that,
and if you accidentally do raw Dog, because sometimes you
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can accidentally do it because you don't know, maybe there's
an Instagram story, maybe you thought you were looking at
their profile pick you can actually block the person and
your name will disappear from their following. This is from
an experienced instagrammer. So you block them for a day,
you disappear from that list. Don't you think it's so
funny when you do see someone who has raw Dog
or Instagram story, you're like wow, like what led you
(01:47):
here down this path? And you make up all these
assumptions in your head. I saw someone talking about this
on TikTok and a lot of commenters were saying that
they have actually had an experience where the person whose
Instagram story they looked at then message them and said
who are you and why are you looking at my
Instagram story. My ex's new girlfriend, well not really new girlfriend,
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has been raw dogging my Instagram stories for three years
and I want to say why. And the worst bit is,
you guys have been broken up for ten years. It's
not like it's a new thing. But I feel for
that girl. I actually think so for you would be
amazing friends with her. The fact that she is going
out and looking at your profile all the time. You're
quite similar people. I definitely am not saying that I'm
above stalking my partner's xes and that sort of thing,
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but I think do it in a fake name, have
a certain level of respect for yourself to not just
pop up in their feet. You do end up creating
this almost roster for yourself that you regularly stalk. And
then you're really thrown one of these people dares to
put their page on private, You're like, hang on, I've
just been cut off.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it's like there is celebrity.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, you've bought into their life. You want to know
when they're seeing Jessica on the weekend, or what they're
puppies up to, or did they break up with that
boyfriend of yours And it's gone so much past the
point of them dating your ex, Like, it's more that
you're just invested in their life and like, oh, what
are they doing now?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
After this weed to pack?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And everyone has been really nice to meet because I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Sarah's Day has announced she's expecting her third child with
her husband, Kurt Tills Now Kate. It is the news
everyone has been waiting for since Sarah shared in December
that she was starting to try. I don't think anyone
was too surprised by this news because she has been
baiting it for quite some time now.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What I was interested to see was how she decided.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
To make the announcement. So she picked at Instagram reel
and also a YouTube video, and the Instagram reel included
a photo shoot. It's quite a grungey photo shoot and
it was very moody. It was reminiscent of m Davies's pregnancy.
Announcing is actually the latest that Sarah has waited to
announce her pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
She is fifteen weeks pregnant and.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
It's down to the fact that Kurt has been too
busy to film and take photos of the announcement, and
Sarah said that she wanted to do something really simple
and laid back, but Kurt really wanted to do something
out there and epic, yah, but they didn't end up
having time, so they did go with Sarah's concept, which
I think is quite a rehash one. As we said,
like a lot of influencers are getting into a photo
studio filming their partner, putting their hands on their star
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mich like, it's nothing revolutionary.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
There would be so.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Much pressure on Sarah and Kurt to make this a
big announcement though, because remember her first baby announcement with Fox,
that video has been viewed millions of time. Yes, the
difference is though that was a massive surprise, whereas this one,
like Sarah has been very open about the fact that
she is trying to have a baby. I did enjoy
the YouTube video because you did get a real insight
into how desperate she really was to have this third baby.
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And I think the most relatable part of the vlog
was the fact that her mum and sisters guessed that
she was pregnant because she was so grumpy. So it
ended up that the night before she took the pregnancy test,
she'd had this this big fight with her sister at
family dinner, and she said normally they don't actually fight, however,
they're very brutal with each other. And this time the
brutal comment really got to her and she stormed out,
(05:10):
and I was like, this is every family dinner at
our house like this?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Literally, are you guys pregnant?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Because well, I mean, I was gonna put it back
on you because I think one of your biggest pregnancy
symptoms has been being grumpy.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So it was quite relatable in saying that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I was shocked how many pregnancy tests that she took,
because aren't those things fairly expensive. I remember being quite
taken about how expensive pregnancy tests were when I bought one,
and I didn't want any confusion, so I did buy
the expensive digital one. But I did notice that Sarah
had a lot of the cheaper ones where they do
the two lines, and then when she thought, okay, I'm
pretty sure I am pregnant, she did confirm it with
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the digital she brought out the big boys.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I liked how Sarah said that she's not normally easily
offended and everyone in the comments I was like, wait
a second, you're offended by.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
This, this, this, this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I also found it interesting that she told her sister
that she was pregnant before Kurt. Maybe it's because of
this is a contentious topic with us, Kate, because you
took I think nine or ten weeks to tell us anything. Yeah,
but this is her third pregnancy, so I think with
your first pregnancy, you need to tell your partner first. Also,
did you notice that she inadvertently actually announced her sister's
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pregnancy because she's like, oh, you're four weeks behind you now. Yeah,
but her sister might have already done that on her
own Instagram. But her sister is quite private, so I
have noticed that her sister doesn't like to share her
daughter's face on social media.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But it has popped up a few times on Sarah's channel.
Doesn't she have some podcast? Because isn't she? She was?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
She did have a midwife podcast, But I think that's
fallen to the ways i'd actually tried to find that recently.
One thing that did shock me the most was when
Sarah announced the news to her parents. They panned across
to the dinner table. They're writing takeaway Pizza, I really died.
Didn't Dad make some joke and say, oh, is it yours? Kurt?
That is just Dad slowed down to a t because
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when we shared your announcement to us Kate, when you
reveal all of the men were just shaking hands. Yeah,
I feel like that's the dad thing to shake hands
and then making.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Joke and the question of the paternity.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I think that's just like the Aussie way to kind
of make light of the situation. It is very clear
that this type of content really does work for Sarah.
We've spoken a lot on this podcast how big milestones
like having a baby or getting married is content gold
for influencers, and the baby Real announcement has had two
point five million views so far at the time of recording.
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She also followed it up with two more pregnancy related
real so. She filmed this video and Get Ready with
Me for her baby announcement photo shoot that has had
one point four million views. The second was actually a
real promoting her maternity workout program Body and Bump. So
she said that she's been consistently doing this program since
she fell pregnant. That reel has one point two million views,
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So it's pretty clear that this is a very good
content strategy for it. I'm not saying she's had the
baby for content, no, but it's something that draws a
lot of interest around her, and I did have a
look at Social Blade and last month she actually lost
over fifteen hundred followers. However, in the last couple of
days since she made this announcement, she's attracted at three
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point one thousand new followers, and I feel like that
number is only going.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
To go up.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I do feel like often Sarah will use her baby
announcements as a little bit of a redemption arc. We
have spoken a lot about how she has been hemorrhaging followers.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Do you guys think that this.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Pregnancy announcement will be enough for Sarah to gain relevance
in twenty twenty four. Look, I definitely don't think that
she's just having a baby because she's had a laalin
followers and she's trying to think of a way to
get them back. I think it's saying that, but I
think her strategy has been very different than it has
been the last pregnancies because we've never seen her be
so open about her conception journey. She has really been
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sharing the details, and I think it's also, you know,
put a few people off because people have actually questioned
how sensitive she's been because she is someone that clearly
finds it quite easy to fall pregnant, and she spoke
a lot about how it was hard on her because
it took four months this time, whereas last time it only.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Took one try.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean, I did find it a little bit uncomfortable
to put out there, you know, the amount of times
that you're trying and going into those sorts of details.
I think that the reason she's sharing differently about this
pregnancy is because her pregnancy with Malachi was high risk
and he had a lot of medical problems, and she
probably shut down and didn't want to share about it,
and she received a lot of criticism when she did
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share about it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I also think it's.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Due to the changing nature of social media and TikTok.
I think that there are more creators on TikTok who
are falling into these niches where they are sharing about
their pregnancy journey ahead of time. And I think that
she really relates to that content and wants to share it,
and she's seen other people do so I'm a little
bit surprised she hasn't used the tactic we've seen Aspenovi
I'd use, which is actually pre filming the content and
(09:54):
then putting it out there because I think she really
did put herself in a vulnerable position to be sharing
live updates about how long it was going to take
her to conceive. Yeah, it's interesting though, So if you
mentioned Malachi's health problems, I'm surprised she's being so open
now because of that experience. I'm almost surprised she didn't
pull back completely. Well, I suppose maybe because she's fifteen
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weeks pregnant, so she has waited a little bit longer.
So maybe she's already had a ton of those tests
done and she's got they okay. I also think it
has to do with the fact that Sarah shared that
her sister Emily was struggling with her fertility when Sarah
felt pregnant with Malachi so quickly, so I think she
was trying to protect her sister as well. It is
really difficult when you do make a pregnancy announcement to
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make sure that you don't upset anyone because obviously fertility
is one of those touchy topics where you are going
to trigger people. How do you think she's navigated this process.
I think you do have to be mindful, But at
the same time, I think a lot of influencers feel
like everything they do is wrong. So it's a very
sensitive topic and one little thing that you say can
trigger someone. I think that she be an unpopular opinion,
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but I think that she has actually tried really hard
not to offend anyone and to do a lot of
trigger warnings and preface things that She's very lucky. I
wish we haven't seen her do before. See, I actually disagree.
I think that it can come across as quite disingenuous
when you put a disclaim in but then still say
something that is going to trigger someone. So she has
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very openly spoken in the last couple of months about
how her first baby, Fox was a love child, and
then she said she fell pregnant with Malachi straight away,
and that you know, she detailed how many times she
had sex with Kurt and order for that to happen.
And now she's almost trying to get sympathy for it
taking a couple of months longer than she thought with
her third child, even though four months is a very
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quick time around.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
If I was struggling to conceive, I would definitely unfollow
Sarah's day. And I think the tricky thing with Sarah
is that she built her brand originally on talking about
fertility issues that she was having. PCOS was such a
big part of her channel, and it's so fantastic that
she is able to feel pregnant so easily. However, I
think because she would know that she has a fan
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base that probably followed her from the start because they
may have potentially had the same fertility issues, it would
be difficult to be following this journey along and not
be triggered. I actually think the pregnancy would be a
happy time for her, but also a stressful time for
her because she does know that she has the added
scrutiny on everything that she does, particularly being a fitness influencer,
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whether she gets back into it too quickly, whether she's
promoting on ahealthy lifestyle. But she's invited that scrutiny by
literally before she's even conceived inviting people along the journey. Yeah,
and the whole thing is regardless of what she posts,
I think anyone sharing baby news when you're struggling to
conceive is going to be upsetting. But I think what
you're trying to say, Kate is that she almost shares
too many details about.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It eighties Frost Yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Ruby Tuesday Matthews has showed off a second engagement ring,
almost three years after being proposed to by her fiance,
Shannon Dodd now on a surprise romantic getaway. Ruby shared
two separate Instagram stories showing off the new ring. So
this ring is almost identical to her original engagement ring.
So it's a large rectangular diamond. It is around three
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point eight carrots, so it's a little bit larger than
her original ring. And in the photo, the new ring
was stacked on top of the original engagement ring. And
in the post she wrote saying yes again and tagged
her fiance. And in the second post she did another
close up shot of the ring and said yes again
and tagged a jewelry brand.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This really confused me.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Is this a new thing where if you don't get
married in a certain amount of years that you then
get a second engagement ring, Because if that was the case,
I might have put out my wedding vewe well, my
engagement was over two years. I think I'm owed as
secondary engagement ring. It definitely did lead to a lot
of confusion and many people thought, well, maybe Shannon and
Ruby had split and this is a second proposal. Surely
(14:01):
you wouldn't want to promote the fact that we've actually
broken up since being engaged the first time.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
No, but well you wouldn't. But there has been a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Speculation that they broke up last year because Shannon hadn't
appeared on any of Ruby's Instagram posts since February, and
they also weren't liking one another's post, which is a
telltale sign. But she put the rumors to bed back
in June, saying, I love my kids and I'm not separated.
I'm very much committed and engaged in my relationship. There
are things I sometimes like to keep private. This was
(14:29):
also around the time that Ruby had checked into a
facility to get help for a nervous breakdown, so there
were a lot of rumors around that time. So that
is what is leading everyone to think, well, maybe there's
a second proposal because of a break up. It's a
strange one because I have seen influencers share when their
engagement ring has been upgraded. So remember Georgie Stevens got
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a new engagement ring, but that was after they got married.
I think even Beck Judd has had a improved engagement ring.
But the fact that she has stacked the new and
the old one on t top of each other.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's very ruby, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I wonder if this is some kind of marketing ploy.
I have seen a lot of people advertising dupes of
their rings. Maybe this is some kind of jupe copy.
I mean, it's a bit bigger. I don't think as
a jupe, but I do think that she is trying
to drum up engagement for this new jewelry business, because
I had a look at the brand. So it's called
two Jaws and the account was launched on the twenty
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seventh of March. It only has one hundred and ninety
three followers and six posts, and two of the posts
feature Ruby's new engagement ring. So I wonder if this
is a friend's business, she's trying to create some engagement
around it. I did love in our Facebook group that
a lot of people were commenting on the photo because
it was Ruby's hand with so much jewelry on it,
and someone's like, how much does that hand cost?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Because she had.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Several Cartier rings, two Cartier bracelets, two engagement rings, Like
really going to have to bump up your household insurance
with that? It does come at a weird time to
do this lavish display of wealth because she recently complained
that she and her fiance were feeling the mortgage pinch,
so it kind of comes at odds with that now
(16:07):
since the speculation around these rings, she actually did delete
the two Instagram stories. But it gets even more confusing
because then on Monday, she followed up with a feed
post about the ring, writing double whammy. Yesterday, I was
beyond spoiled by Shannon with a spa day, massages and
Margi's and a night away, a Blackbird Byron and a
beautiful dinner. We are so lucky to have a daddy
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like you, and I'm lucky to have you as my
best friend. Life isn't simple or easy, especially with me,
but I'm grateful for your commitment to our family and
by always sticking it out. This is a big statement because,
as you said, a lot of people have been questioning
whether the pair have broken up or their status of
relationship always seems to be up.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
In the air.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So while there is a part of me that does
think this is a part of a partnership, I also
think it's a declaration of their love, and I do
wonder if we will see Ruby now getting into some
wedding planning. There were a lot of followers who were
excited for Ruby about the second engagement ring, but there
were also.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Others who question why the need for a second engagement ring?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, a lot of people said it was actually very greedy,
and Ruby responded to one of these comments and said,
I actually agree with a lot of what you've said,
But in saying that, I think the biggest message here
is the assumption that I got another diamond that would
be absolutely gluttonous. There are many other sustainable options to
add a little sparkle to your life without costing the
planet or your pocket.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It sounds like an ad.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So is she talking about mozernite rings or lab diamonds?
Is she trying to obviously say, well, this jeweler does
amazing lab diamonds that everyone will believe is a real diamond.
The more I hear about this, the more I think
that this is a big ad.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, one's rocking those two huge rings.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Finger No, Because Emily Radikowski recently revealed her divorce ring.
So she had a princess cut diamond and also a
pear shaped diamond on one band, but then after her divorce,
she had it reworked into two separate rings, and she
said that it's part of her personal evolution. And I
don't think a woman should be stripped of her diamonds
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just because she's losing a man, which I think is
a great message. So when I first saw Ruby's two
rings together, I thought, are they separated or what is
going on.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To break up engagement with?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Has she refashioned it?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Because there's a huge relationship announcement coming, but a negative one.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We are fourteen weeks out from the wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
We are upping the Auntie Finnis influencer Rachel Dylan married
entrepreneur Toby Pierce in Italy late last week. The pinterest
worthy wedding didn't go off without a hitch though.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, this really surprised me.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So a couple of days out from the wedding, Rachel
revealed on TikTok that she actually had to reschedule the
date because of the weather. So the couple jetted off
to Italy early last week and they've been living it
up in Capri as all brides do so for you
know this, they were keeping a keen eye on the
weather report and according to the weather report, it was
set to rain on their wedding day. So it's currently
(19:01):
spring in Italy, and while Rachel and Toby had expected
it to be a little bit cooler, they were hoping
for a nice sunny day for their outdoor wedding. Now,
five days out from the big day, Rachel's wedding planner
organized an emergency meeting and she proposed rescheduling the wedding.
It sounds worse than it is, though. They actually ended
up moving the wedding celebrations one day forward, which meant
(19:23):
that they would get sunshine on all of the wedding
day events, so it was a multi day wedding. I
was watching this eagerly because I really felt for Rachel,
because a week out from my wedding I found that
it was going to be thirty five degrees and it
started to grow to forty degrees and a little bit
of me was envious, thinking, gee, I wish I had
the ability and the money to move everything a day
(19:44):
forward or a day back, But unfortunately for me, we
had a heat wave the whole weekend, so that was
not a possibility. Well, I don't think it would have
been easy logistically because it turned out that bringing the
date forward meant that some of the guests who were
traveling across from overseas ended up missing the welcome dinner.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh sorry, thought you're gonna say the wedding. Can you
imagine that? It's like, oh, yeah, fuck you guys.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
We care more about You've flown all the way over
there and you miss it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well it was.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It was actually a very intimate wedding, So she and
Toby invited fifty guests, so there was only a handful
that actually missed out on this welcome dinner. What I
couldn't believe about this dinner was the fact that everyone
has been focusing on what one of her bridesmaids Isabelle
Mathers war So Isabelle, she is an influencer and model.
She's fucking stunning, But so was Rachel Dillon. The whole
(20:32):
wedding party were beautiful. I just couldn't get over how
stunning they all looked together. So the Daily Mail have
gone out and done this story about how Isabelle tried
to outshine the bride at this welcome dinner. So when
you do look at the dress, it was very revealing.
It is a sheer cream dress, sort of a bit
like a ball gown, and it's got this diamond cutout
(20:53):
where it shows off Isabelle's apps. She looks stunning, but
so did Rachel Dillon.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
She was wearing a.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Short, cue white dress, looked perfect for the event.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
They all looked good.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I don't like it because in this situation, it's actually
the media who was pitting these two women against each other.
Because it would be a different scenario if Rachel came
out after the wedding and said, Hey, I was a little upset.
My friend actually purposely tried to outshine me. Just say
if she did that and something that question never happened,
but some people might. Some people do share stories and say, oh,
I've had a falling out with this friend over extraanzettes.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Later or years later.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But I think that in this situation where everything seemed
to be planned to the absolute tea, Isabelle would have
got permission to wear that gown and she actually did
come out and say that. Because so the Daily Mail
have picked up on this story because a couple of
people in the comments said, oh, this was an inappropriate
dress for you to wear, and you tried to outshine
the bride, and she came out and said, the bride
(21:49):
is my best friend. You don't think I've discussed every
single one of my outfits with her.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't like the whole outshining the bride thing because
I personally have the theory that if you get really
dressed up for a friend's wedding, it's actually quite a
compliment because you've made a big effort. I find it
more offensive when people don't make an effort at someone's wedding. Well,
the thing is, it wasn't even at her wedding, was
at her bloody welcome dinner. I have to disagree with you, guys.
(22:14):
I can see why people are up in arms about this.
She has come along to this wedding dinner. Rachel is
wearing white because she is the bride to be. This
dress is like a sheer white dress. It's showing off
her amazing abs. It kind of does like it does
take the focus off.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
What Rachel is wearing.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But Rachel wouldn't have included Isabelle in her wedding if
she was concerned about that. I mean, the girl is
absolutely stunning. They're all stunning, as I said before, and
they were getting ready together. So if they're best friends.
Surely there would have been a point where she could
have said, do you mind, not worry.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think it's a really.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Sad concept that anyone is out shining anyone, because, as
you said, Kate, Rachel is absolutely stunning in her own right.
All of the women are stunning. Why does anyone out
shine anyone. I think people get confused when brides allow
their bridesmaids to actually look nice at these events, because
there is that old trope of a bride trying to
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dress their bridesmaids in some hideous dress that they never
want to wear again and making.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Them look bad in order for them to look better.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah. I just think it's clear that Rachel is very
confident in herself and was like, I want everyone to
look good. I think it just reeks of insecurity to
try and purposely make your bridesmaids look bad. They're your
friends and they're there for a reason. You want them
to feel confident and comfortable as well.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now I want to.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Get into the wedding day because I could not get
over the place where they got ready. It looked straight
from a Pinterest board, with that breakfast overlooking the mountains.
That was incredible. I do love how Rachel's mum was
keeping it real though, because they showed her steaming the
dresses and it just reminded me of our mum doing
the same thing. I'm surprised they could have just paid
(23:53):
someone to be there to yeah, but that's the way.
It was nice because it was clearly a very expensive wedding,
a lavish wedding, but then they had touches of oh,
that's so normal for them to do that. One thing
that really stood out to me was how different this
was to Kayla at Senas's wedding. So Kayla and Toby
were of course engaged and they have a daughter, Anna together,
(24:13):
and Kayla was very open about the fact that she
was happy to go to a registry office. She didn't
care about having a big ceremony. She just wanted it
to be her and Jay. Her pa actually talked it
into having a wedding in her backyard. I mean, it
wasn't your typical backyard wedding. It was beautiful, but this
wedding between Toby and Rachel, this was a pinterest wedding.
This is one of the most beautiful weddings of an
(24:34):
Australian influencer. I have seen for a very long time.
It just shows you how different Rachel and Kayla are,
even though they have both been compared the whole time,
and everyone's like, oh, well, he's just dating another I
mean fitness influence, And of course.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Neither is right or wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Ye like, whichever way they want to get married. But
it was quite interesting having the wedding so close and
being able to compare the aesthetic and how they went
about it. Do you think Toby had much to do
with the wedding. I actually do think it has to
do with Toby as well, because if you do cast
your mind back, I think they had quite an elaborate
engagement party him and Kayla back in the day. I
get the vibe he's more flash than you. Yeah, I
(25:09):
think that this wedding is going to dictate a lot
of wedding trends moving forward. She did have light yellow
bridesmaid dresses, and I'm kicking myself because for the past
two years I've been talking about wanting to do yellow
bridesmaid dresses. I didn't have the nerve to do it,
and now I'm seeing them pop up everywhere. Even Margo
Robbie was in a wedding recently for her friend and
was wearing a light yellow fucking brides maid dress?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
What did I do?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
My advice would be just to get over it because
over no, I know, by the time you get the
wedding video, no one cares. I know you guys are
getting your soon.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But I came no.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I mean, I think I've just got to unfollow a
lot of these wedding pages. I think that's what you
got to do. Well, that's so they're going to leave
things for today. Thank you so much for listening to
another episode of Outspoken. If you do want to hear
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(26:04):
land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
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