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November 6, 2023 29 mins

Skye Wheatley has revealed she recently underwent a vaginal tightening procedure. The former Big Brother star openly discussed the decision on her Instagram Story to her 625,000 followers. She also didn’t mind talking about it in front of her two young sons, while filming with them in the car. 

Kim Kardashian’s 10-year-old daughter North West has shocked viewers by eating a raw onion like an apple on a recent episode of The Kardashians. 

Former Geordie Shore star, Gary Beadle has announced his shock split from wife Emma McVey just two years after tying the knot. It comes as his former flame and co-star Charlotte Crosby announced her engagement. 

And another week, another TikTok theory that categorizes which generation you hail from. 

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    Speaker 1 (00:03):
    On today's show, Sky Wheatley's vaginal tightening procedure, Northwest chowles
    down on an onion Jeordie Shaw star Gary Beadle announces
    his shock divorce and a TikTok theory about quitting your job. Hello,
    and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest
    influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie

    (00:25):
    Torbert and okay, it's just you and I today because
    it appears Amy is still recovering from a Hen's party. Yeah,
    so it's been what a day and a bit and
    she decided that it was all a bit too much
    for her. She didn't even get drunk or anything. It's
    literally just been days and days of work to get
    ready for this Hens. I am exhausted. You touched on

    (00:45):
    the fact that she didn't get drunk. She had a
    few pims and lemonades, because we did set up a
    pims and lemonade stand. Amy actually did paint the sign herself.
    I have to give her props for that because she
    wanted to be very involved. But her partner Dale did
    give our bride'sman a task bridesman, so he had left
    an eski under his desk with all the ingredients to

    (01:05):
    make skittle bombs, and he really wanted Amy to be
    able to let her hair down. And the reason it
    was skittle bombs is because probably five or eight years ago,
    we had a really fun night out on the towns. Yeah,
    it was our friend's Hens party and she had had
    quite a few skittle bombs and she was ticking along nicely,
    so he wanted her to have some. But I made

    (01:27):
    a quite toxic batch of them, i'd say, and everyone
    either they ended up being thrown into the garden or refused. Well,
    my job was making the jugs of pims and lemonade,
    and I got some great feedback. Mum said it was
    a really good mix. I was blown away by how
    everyone got so into the theme. Everyone's outfits looked incredible.

    (01:48):
    A few of us were saying, God, we should wear
    this tennis stuff all the time because it's quite a vibe.
    It really was a vibe. It was very stressful on
    Saturday afternoon because we had flagged it with Amy that
    it was going to be a lot of work to
    transform her outdoor entertaining area into Wimbledon. Look, I'm actually
    quite relieved that her party is finally over because it's

    (02:08):
    been exhausting. And the reason I never wanted Amy to
    have it at her house is because the poor thing,
    she ended up having to do a lot of the
    work herself as well, so she was getting up trying
    to serve people, giving people drinks, and I just wanted
    her to sit down and enjoy it, because it's the
    one day when I think that you should be waited on.
    Maybe we should have got topless waiters. It might have
    been easy. Oh, that would have been a much better idea. Yeah,

    (02:30):
    because we did have a pizza van, but they were
    kind of parked in the corner and we wanted to
    do a sit down mill as well. In hindsight, it
    would have been better if it was kind of more
    mingled and people could go up. But we were slaves
    to everyone, so if you and I were serving pizza,
    serving drinks with the hostesses the most asses. I want
    to give a tip for anyone who's planning a Hen's party.
    You might have seen on TikTok or on Instagram the

    (02:52):
    people are printing off really colorful place mats, kind of
    that wavy desire. So I ordered the template off Etsy
    and then custom made it to suit Amy's theme and
    they were a hit. So I included the games on there.
    I had the menu on there. You only then have
    to print one thing off and they looked really good. Yeah.
    Can that be manipulated for yours? Or do I need

    (03:13):
    to get another template? I might be a bit of
    a henzilla. I might want a different template. I don't know.

    Speaker 2 (03:19):
    Oh, you guys a bit about it later.

    Speaker 1 (03:22):
    Sky Wheatley has revealed she recently underwent a vaginal tightening procedure. Now.
    The former Big Brother star openly discussed her decision on
    her Instagram story to her six hundred and twenty five
    thousand followers. She also didn't mind talking about it in
    front of her two young sons, who were sitting in
    the cart while she was filming the stories. I did

    (03:42):
    notice that she avoided using the term vaginal tightening, so
    she wrote that term on the screen instead. She didn't mind, though,
    talking out loud about her boyfriend Lockie Ware's opinion on
    her vagina, so she said that he didn't have any
    complaints about it. I feel like I need to throw
    to a clip to give this justice. Not that luck
    you had any complaints that I always ask him. I'm

    (04:04):
    like babe, what's a feeling like? You feel good? And
    he's like, yeah, babe, nothing to worry about.

    Speaker 2 (04:12):
    But I'm just I just really wanted to try the treatment,
    and I I would highly recommend.

    Speaker 1 (04:18):
    This is why Sky Wheatley remains uncancellable. These types of
    conversations that you never expect to hear out loud from
    other people is why people keep tuning in to her content.
    I think it's a conversation that a lot of women
    who have had children could relate to, saying, oh, is
    everything the same? Does it feel the same for you?
    It does concern me a little bit that we're having

    (04:40):
    this conversation in the sense that it puts a lot
    of pressure on women. And there is all this discussion
    about bouncing back and the way you look, and now
    we're putting pressure on people to feel as tight as
    they did before having kids. That's the thing. I didn't
    even know that this was a thing. I've always heard
    people speaking about keegel exercises, but but I didn't know

    (05:00):
    that people were genuinely going out there and getting vaginal
    tightening procedures. Like, absolutely, no shame if that's what someone
    wants to do to feel better and more confident about themselves.
    But as you said, Kate, I just feel uncomfortable if
    this becomes some sort of default thing that women feel
    like they need to do after having a child, and
    particularly to impress a male partner as well. It reminds
    me of those guys who give a bit of a

    (05:22):
    wink to the nurse and say, oh, yeah, add a
    few more stitches in there after their wife's just given birth.
    It's so gross, Yeah, it really is. The whole thing
    with the kids in the car added an extra element
    of awkwardness because while they didn't seem to understand what
    Sky was talking about, a lot of publications picked up
    on this story. So in front of her kids, Sky

    (05:43):
    was talking about how the treatment can help with vaginal
    dryness and also sexual pleasure, and it was pretty funny
    because Forrest kept interrupting her and screaming at the camera,
    and She's like, Oh, this is probably a little bit
    inappropriate to talk about in front of them. I'll go
    film another update later on. The optics went great because,
    as you said, Kate, the media had a screenshot of
    her in the car with the kids with that sort

    (06:03):
    of headline. Yeah, and all I can think about is
    when they're older and they go google their mum and
    dad's name, this story pops up. It's probably a bit
    too much information for them, lough, it's probably not the
    worst story that they're going to see about their parents'
    pop I am very intrigued to know more about this
    procedure because it was the first time I've ever heard
    about it, and I noticed that Sky did tag the

    (06:24):
    clinic that she got the procedure done at, so I
    was wondering if there was some sort of partnership between
    the two. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. It reminds me
    of when she was promoting the Calarium at the start
    of the year and there was a lot of backlash
    over her promoting sun beds. I think she sometimes misses
    the mark, even though this is something that maybe she
    thinks is helpful to other women. Some of these procedures

    (06:45):
    don't seem to have much scientific basis behind well, this
    one appears to be a little bit different. So A
    study published in the International Journal of Women's Dermatology in
    twenty sixteen stated that sixty seven percent of women who
    underwent this proceed you just saw improvement in vaginal tightness
    after a month, while it increased to eighty seven percent
    after six months, so she might be onto something. And

    (07:08):
    for those who might be wondering about the treatment, it
    is called former V and essentially what happens is a
    probe is applied to the vaginal area and it delivers
    a radio frequency that stimulates tissue regeneration and boost collagen production.
    So this basically enhances the skin firmness and strength. That
    sounds really painful and unpleasant. Yeah. I know it's not

    (07:30):
    an actual laser, but so if you and I have
    both had our face lasered, and I can't imagine having
    that type of pain in a private area. Sky did
    liken the procedure to the feeling of getting a perhaps
    mean She said, while it was uncomfortable, it wasn't painful.
    But you know when people say that and then you
    go in and get this thing done and it ends
    up being excruciating. Yeah, I feel like everyone has a

    (07:52):
    different pain threshold. The thing that I just sort of
    laugh about when I think about this is I can't
    really see men being like, oh, I'm going to do
    this to make sure my partner likes I'm gonna spend
    all this money and do something incredibly uncomfortable and all,
    which just so my wife likes it. What about the
    guys that get penis enlargements. I wouldn't think that would
    be incredibly painful. Yeah, but I don't think that there's
    tons of guys getting penis enlargement. No, true. I mean

    (08:14):
    some guys do get vaseectomes after they've had children. I
    think that's a little bit different because it's not cosmetic
    or aimed at the other person's pleasure. With a vasectomy,
    that's a decision that the couple has made together because
    they don't want to have any more children. It does
    benefit women who have been given the mental load of
    thinking about contraception though. Yeah, that's true. I suppose they're

    (08:35):
    doing something all right, then I.

    Speaker 2 (08:37):
    Just love that.

    Speaker 1 (08:39):
    Another week, another TikTok theory that categorizes which generation you
    hail from. So last week it was all about whether
    you wear invisible socks or longer socks pulled up to
    your calf. Sophie, what are you? I'm, of course team
    invisible socks. I'm a millennial. I have grown up wearing
    invisible socks and thinking that it's embarrassing if you see
    your socks poking out from your shoes. We did used

    (09:00):
    to wear knee high socks at school, so I don't
    know if that's just put you off the whole socks
    being visible.

    Speaker 2 (09:05):
    Well.

    Speaker 1 (09:05):
    Amy actually bought me a pair of the cool higher
    socks for her hen's party, and I was gonna put
    them on, but then I remembered someone saying that when
    you wear the higher socks, it makes your legs look
    stumpier because it cuts you off at a certain angle,
    and as somebody has quite large carbs, I didn't want
    to take the risk for something as important as a
    hen's party. I'll see I wore them. I was like,

    (09:27):
    fuck this, I'm gonna look like a gen Zea with
    my higher socks. UF. I actually quite liked the look. Yeah. Now,
    what is this new TikTok theory? Though? Well, this week
    it's all about your response to someone quitting their job.
    So a TikToker called Samantha She who has sixty thousand followers.
    She came up with a theory that your reaction to
    someone resigning reveals a difference in your generation. So, before

    (09:49):
    we get into the theory, how would you react if
    your friend told you they were quitting their job. I
    think I would react with positivity because generally I'm finding
    that my friends acquitting their job to go on and
    do their own thing, whether it's their own business or
    become a freelancer. And I think a lot of us
    millennials and Gen Zettas don't want to be weighed down

    (10:10):
    by working for someone else. So often it's because someone's
    going off to do their own thing. So I'm always like,
    that's fantastic, that's great, I mean, very encouraging of that. Well, Sophie,
    I'm happy to say you pass the test for your generation.
    So the theory is that Gen x's and boomers react
    with concern and trepidation, whereas millennials and Gen Zettas respond positively.

    (10:31):
    Let's throw to what Samantha said.

    Speaker 2 (10:34):
    The difference between the generations is like every time that
    I tell someone who's over I don't know forty, that
    I left my job, they're.

    Speaker 1 (10:44):
    Like, oh my god, what are you going to do?

    Speaker 2 (10:46):
    Like you don't have a giant job lined up? Like
    aren't you nervous? Like don't you have to pay? And
    then whenever I tells someone that is like I don't know,
    twenties or early thirties, they're like sleep clean, congratulations less
    go celebrate. You're the best, You're the barm You're an icon.

    Speaker 1 (11:06):
    I think social media plays a big part in this,
    because you see influences online earning big bucks for going
    against the nine to five trend. And I think a
    lot of young people dream about working for themselves and
    having that work life balance of flexibility. I think a
    lot of young people become disillusioned when they do finally
    get a nine to five job because they're like, is

    (11:27):
    this it? Like this is shit. You're just gonna eat
    an onion like an apple. This is what she does people.
    She eats veggies like apple. Kim Kardashian's ten year old
    daughter at Northwest has shocked viewers by eating a raw
    onion like an apple on a recent episode of The Kardashians.
    When I saw this, all I could think about was

    (11:47):
    that scene in Sign Fell when George Gastanza mistakens an
    onion for an apple and just quiets into it all.
    The difference here is that north didn't make a mistake.
    According to Kim, she eats a lot of different vegetables
    like apple. I love that Kim said that with such conviction,
    and she didn't acknowledge the fact that eating a vegetable
    like an onion is very strange because most people can't

    (12:10):
    even handle cutting up an onion without crying, but actually
    biting into it and having the smell and the scent.
    How could you eat that? Yeah, it's not something that
    you really meant to eat raw. Like I don't know,
    some people have a little bit of raw onion and salad.
    It's a difference between having a red onion though. I
    feel like you can eat a red onion raw, but

    (12:30):
    not a white one. Well, red onion's more of a
    salad onion. It's pretty funny because Reese's dad, everyone gives
    him shit because he eats a lot of strange vegetable.
    So for lunch he'll have like a plate with turnips
    and radishes on it, and he will have a vinegar
    on it. It must be a particular craving for some people.
    Maybe that maybe North is missing something out in her die. Oh.

    (12:51):
    I don't think that this is about her enjoying the
    taste at all. I think that this is purely for
    shock value. I think that she is trying to desperately
    get her parents' attention. I mean, maybe it's because Kim
    and Karnie are going through a divorce and sort of
    acting out like this and doing something strange is a
    way for them to focus on her because I can
    imagine both of them having incredibly busy careers, and you know,

    (13:13):
    I mean, Kim Kardashian does get accused of being quite
    self centered sometime. Maybe it's a cry for help, particularly
    when they do have a private chef that could make
    her anything that she wants to eat, Like why would
    you choose to eat a raw onion? Well, we saw
    in this episode that she was desperate to make her
    own sushi with Kim, and Kim's like, oh, let's maybe
    get the private chef out to help, but she's like, no, Mom,

    (13:34):
    we're doing this ourselves. It's just bizarre because for them,
    they clearly want to do it. Yeah, they also paid
    out Kendall Jenna when because North was cutting up a
    cucumber and she was saying that she's ambidextrous and can
    do it with both hands, and she's like, oh, Kim's like,
    maybe we should FaceTime Auntie Kendall. Well, everyone's saying that
    North deserves her own show, and I think that when
    she's older, they could definitely be onto something. Yeah, well,

    (13:57):
    I remember when she was first born and Cant was
    very protective and he didn't want her appearing on The
    cut Ashian Show. So it's really come full circle where
    the kids are starting to play a bit of a
    main role. I did see Penelope was giving Scott Distick
    advice on his dating and saying that he shouldn't be
    dating teenagers and they're so sassy, like North is literally

    (14:19):
    a mini Kanye. She sounds so much like him it's crazy. Well,
    they're only about around ten, in saying that though they
    have grown up in a very adult environment with cameras
    around them, a lot of older people and influences, so
    you can see why they've grown up a lot faster
    than other children. Yeah, definitely, I did like this episode

    (14:40):
    because Kim actually opened up about the struggles that she
    has with parenting, and she said that North is really
    special and smart and creative and definitely beats to her
    own drum, like her personality is really really silly, and
    then she went on to say that Courtney always says
    that North is Kim's lesson on this planet, and when
    she was asked to elaborate on that, she said that

    (15:00):
    North teaches her patience and a lot about life. And
    Kim was talking about North that had this massive meltdown
    and was refusing to get in the car and wanted
    all this private time with Kim and doesn't talk to
    her little siblings. And I was like, I'm loving this.
    I'm loving seeing this side of the Kardashian family that
    we don't normally get to look in at. You're talking
    about the bullshit details because it's all your egotistical, selfish

    (15:25):
    mind can think about. It's being reported that Courtney Kardashian
    has given birth to a baby boy. It is her
    fourth child and first with her husband Travis Barker. Now,
    can you remember a couple of months ago, back in June,
    she announced her pregnancy in the most iconic way. She
    was holding up a poster at Travis Barker's Blink One
    Night two concert with a sign saying I'm pregnant. Yeah,

    (15:47):
    And this was after a lot of IVF attempts. The
    couple did confirm that they actually naturally conceived this child.
    And it's pretty scary because only in September, Courtney shared
    with her followers that she had undergone am urgency fetal
    surgery and confirmed doctors had saved her baby's life. It
    feels like this is the longest pregnancy ever. It shouldn't

    (16:09):
    feel that way because when they announced it, she was
    like four months pregnant already. Yeah, she was pretty along
    the way. I think it's because a lot has happened
    within the pregnancy. It's not just been smooth sailing, and
    it's pretty unprecedented. Because Travis confirmed his soon to be
    son's name back in July, so in an interview he
    said that they're going to call their son Rocky thirteen

    (16:32):
    because it'd been in his head recently. So the name
    Rocky comes from musician Rocky George, who played guitar for
    Suicidal Tendencies, and Travis also took inspiration from the Rocky movies,
    which was my first thought when I saw the name. Wow,
    it does suit their vibe because obviously going for that
    very grungy rocker vibe. Yeah, the inclusion of thirteen is

    (16:53):
    because Travis said it is the greatest number of all time.
    Maybe he's a bit of a swifty. Is Courtney any
    saying the name or is it all what Travis wants?
    It does seem like it's all what Travis wants. It's
    pretty funny though, because his daughter Alabama said that she
    wasn't a fan of the name at the time and
    she labeled it so bad. It appears though, it has

    (17:14):
    been growing on her because in a recent interview she
    said it's a cool name. We all have very authentic,
    weird names. The name isn't very Courtney because her other
    children do have quite normal names. So she's got a
    son called Mason and Penelope. Her other son is called Rain,
    so that is a bit more unusual. But I don't
    know if Rocky sort of goes with the flow of

    (17:34):
    these names. Yeah, but back when Mason was born, because
    he's thirteen now, I don't think it was a very
    common name. I think a lot of people have copied
    it from Courtney. Yeah, well, it became a very on
    trend name. Everyone was calling their child Mason. I wonder
    if we're going to see Rocky popping up as one
    of those names, whether there will be any impact out
    of Rockies. I don't think so. I don't think Courtney

    (17:55):
    has as much of a pool anymore. Travis's children are
    called Alabama and Lamb, so I think Rocky fits more
    in with his vibe, and I think he's really pushing it.
    I'll be interested to see if they actually do announce
    this as the name, because Travis has been talking about
    it for so long. But the Kardashians are known for
    changing their mind at the times rate.

    Speaker 2 (18:15):
    I feel like I'm happy.

    Speaker 1 (18:17):
    I've got two kids, swell one kid to one and aware.
    So yeah, we're gonna got Manchester. We're going to buy
    the ring.

    Speaker 2 (18:22):
    I'm much a little bit nervous.

    Speaker 1 (18:24):
    Former Jeordie Shaw star Gary Beadle has announced his shock
    split from wife Emma McVeigh, just two years after tying
    the knot. The news comes as his former flame and
    co star Charlotte Crosby announced her engagement Sophie. I have
    not been across this. What has been going on? Well.
    Gary announced the end of his marriage in a very
    odd way. It was all very casual during an Instagram

    (18:47):
    Q and a. So the follower asked him if the
    couple were still together, and this was after there was
    a bit of speculation because they hadn't been posting about
    one another for a couple of weeks. So Gary said, hey, no,
    we actually separate about three weeks ago. We are still friends.
    There is no bad blood or anything. We have worked
    out the best way of doing it for the kids,

    (19:07):
    which for me and Emma is always going to be
    the most important thing. We both deserve to be happy
    as well as being parents. It's quite premature to announce
    it after a three weeks separation, particularly when you have kids.
    They must know for sure that there is no path
    of reconciliation. Yeah. I was very surprised that he announced
    it in this way because we have been seeing a

    (19:29):
    lot of celebrities and influencers utilizing pr agencies to put
    out these perfectly curated pr statements when they break up,
    and most of the time, you know, they say, oh,
    we're going to be great friends, and you know, this
    is a great decision for the two of us. But
    this feels very weird because Emma hadn't said anything yet.
    It wasn't coming from both of them, it was just

    (19:50):
    coming from Gary. Yeah. It almost seems like he's jumped
    the gun to try and get his point of view
    out there before she says anything. Yeah, And it's not
    as though Emma doesn't have her own platform. So when
    Gary and Emma met, she was a model and she
    has grown her following obviously through her association with him,
    So she has over eight hundred thousand followers, and she
    was allegedly left blindsided by the very casual tone of

    (20:13):
    his breakup announcement. So she finally did break her silence,
    sharing a mirror selfie where you could visibly see she
    was still wearing her wedding pants. Wow, and she wrote,
    it's been really hard for me and the kids to
    be separated. There's been a lot of crying on FaceTime,
    which really breaks my heart. I've been numb and focusing
    on my children while still trying to work. I've honestly

    (20:33):
    not known what to say. I'm hoping this will get
    easier in time. Sending so much love to anyone going
    through something similar, and thank you so much to everyone
    who has been checking in on me. That, to me
    makes it clear that it wasn't Emma who made this decision,
    and it seems like she's pretty shocked that Gary has
    even touched on it, because, as I said earlier, three

    (20:55):
    weeks isn't very long too make an announcement like this
    when children are involved. Well, for those who haven't actually
    seen Jordie Shaw before, what are you doing with your life?
    You need to rectify this immediately. But for those who
    don't know who Gary is. He was on the show
    and he was touted as being this huge player. Yeah.
    He was known for his big parsnip as well. Yeah,
    and he would practically be bringing a new go home

    (21:17):
    every night. And a big part of the show was
    his on again, off again relationship with his co star
    Charlotte Crosby, and she was a fan favorite. Everyone really
    wanted to see them sort their shit out and get
    together properly. Yeah, because while Gary was a player, there
    was a side to him that was likable. And even
    though he treated Charlotte like shit for so many seasons,

    (21:39):
    there was a point where they got together for a
    little bit and it was really good. And then of
    course he ended up breaking her heart. She had an
    ep topic pregnancy with him.

    Speaker 2 (21:47):
    Ye.

    Speaker 1 (21:47):
    Yeah. The saddest bit about that story is that when
    Charlotte was rushed to hospital and she almost lost her life,
    like this was a serious thing. So Gary was off
    filming X on the Beach and known to Charlotte, Gary
    slept with his ex on the show, So she was
    going through the heartbreak of losing a child and then
    also losing her partner, and he just wasn't there for

    (22:10):
    her through any of this. Yeah, Charlotte has spoken a
    lot about this traumatic experience on her podcast in interviews,
    and it's clear just how painful this whole thing was
    for her because it seemed like Gary wasn't really there
    for her at all. Yeah. Well, particularly because very shortly
    after Charlotte and Gary parted ways, Gary started dating Emma

    (22:31):
    and everyone thought it was a bit too soon. I
    didn't realize this, but Gary was on Hell's Kitchen, which
    was being filmed in Australia, so he brought Emma out
    to be with him whilst he was filming for this show,
    and apparently she was pretty upset because he was filming
    for fifteen hours a day and they really didn't spend
    any time together. And once they returned home from Australia,

    (22:54):
    Gary went straight back to filming Jordie Show and he
    allegedly broke up with Emma over text message wilst he
    was in the house. God, it seems like such a
    nice guy, no, And at the time, Emma slammed Gary
    on Twitter saying that he cheated on her, and she
    told the media that she was contacted by multiple people
    on Twitter who accused Gary of flirting with other women

    (23:14):
    whilst he was filming on Jordie Show. Now, apparently she'd
    never watched the show before, so she hadn't seen him
    in action. So I don't believe that. I don't believe
    that you start dating someone that's famous from a TV
    show and you don't do a sneaky little look into
    what they've been acting like on the show. Yeah, it
    was quite embarrassing because they ended up getting back together
    and she spoke to the media about it and she

    (23:36):
    said that she blamed her hormones as she had discovered
    that she was pregnant whilst Gary was filming on the show.
    So they did reconcile shortly after filming wrapped in August
    twenty seventeen, and then announced the baby news publicly. Well
    that's just awkward because it seems like they only got
    back together for this baby. Yeah. Well, a lot of

    (23:57):
    Jordi Shaw fans weren't happy about the news. They were
    quite shocked because they did appear on a lot of
    front pages, all these pregnancy spreads. But in saying that
    becoming a dad for Gary, he really did turn his
    life around because he stopped partying and he really seemed
    to mature and even watching his social media of recent years,
    he comes across as a really devoted dad. Yeah, well

    (24:19):
    he might have something to do with him turning thirty
    and actually growing. Well, he's thirty five now. Yeah, it's
    crazy to think that his son Chester is now six
    and his daughter Primrose is four. I actually really like
    those names. Yeah, they are cute names. Now. I only
    want to bring this up because I think it's quite
    interesting now that they've separated, because they did get engaged
    in twenty nineteen and they tied the knot in twenty

    (24:40):
    twenty one, but they did postpone their wedding. Now, they
    claimed it was because their daughter was hospitalized and there
    was a lot of stress around that. But I wonder
    if Gary got cold feet. Yeah, that's definitely not a
    good sign at the time. Gary said, the last three
    or four months, it's been so hard to even think
    about the wedding. I think it's important to have kids
    before you get married, because getting married is easy. It's

    (25:02):
    just a label. Now, they haven't been any cheating rumors
    as of yet. I'm waiting for those. Yeah, I'm definitely
    waiting for them. I do wonder if it has something
    to do with the fact that the couple has had
    an incredibly stressful year, so Emma has been navigating some
    really serious health conditions. So right before the couple's wedding,
    Emma found out that she had three holes in her
    heart and doctors told her that she couldn't have any

    (25:25):
    more children unless she had the surgery. And then following
    the surgery, she suffered a collapsed lung, and then months
    later she was also diagnosed with inflammatory bow disease. So
    there's been a lot of serious things going on in
    this family's life, and I can't help but feel really
    sorry for her now going through a divorce having two
    young kids. That's just dreadful. There is speculation that Gary

    (25:47):
    and Emma are preparing to sell their mansion at the moment.
    So they have this incredible three story mansion which they've
    been renovating for a number of years now in Leeds,
    and they both want to move out so that they
    can have fresh starts now. Sources told UK tabloids that
    the house is going on the market even though they've
    spent years perfecting it and you know, building everything customs

    (26:08):
    so it's suited to what they wanted. You do hear
    that a lot these couples spending so much time and
    money to make the house exactly what they want, and
    then they end up breaking up or even recently with
    Leah asenas she built her dream house in Adelaide and
    they get the bug for it and want to go
    do it again. Yeah, it's quite interesting because in a
    now deleted Instagram story, Gary said that he is on

    (26:31):
    the hunt for somewhere within an hour's drive of Leeds,
    but he admitted that his home city of Newcastle was
    too far for him to travel back and forwards to
    see his children. I just found it interesting that it
    was deleted because, as you said, Kate, they've only been
    separated for three weeks, and then you know, adding in
    actually having to take the next step and lock in

    (26:51):
    a house, it all seems very permanent. Yeah, it makes
    me think this has been brewing for quite a long
    time and they've made the official move to actually move
    away from each other. It's really awkward timing because Charlotte
    Crosby has just announced her engagement to her boyfriend and
    baby daddy Jake. Look, I don't think it's awkward. They
    haven't been an item for years and years. There's no

    (27:12):
    way Charlotte would consider getting back with him now that
    he is single. Either. That's not why I'm saying it's awkward.
    I just think it's awkward timing that they're both coming
    out with these huge life announcements. And for Charlotte, she
    probably feels somewhat vindicated in that she's been watching Gary
    have this seemingly perfect life. He's building this mansion with

    (27:34):
    his model girlfriend, and they've got these cute kids together,
    and he turned his life all around for her. But
    clearly there's been other things brewing in the background, and
    Charlotte did speak about how watching Gary go on and
    have kids with someone else was really tough for her.
    So I guess I'm just happy that she's been able
    to move on and create her own family with someone
    else who seems to actually really value her.

    Speaker 2 (27:56):
    Yeah.

    Speaker 1 (27:57):
    See, when I saw this announcement, I was really happy
    for Charlotte, but I thought they were already engaged. Now
    they've only been together for two years. They did meet though,
    in twenty fifteen through mutual friends. The engagement was very cute.
    He had set up these red roses that were in
    a heart shape, and Charlotte wrote on her Instagram that
    she's the happiest woman in the world and said yes, yes, yes,
    you are my best friend and you are my life.

    (28:18):
    I was surprised to learn that their daughter is already
    one year's old. Time is absolutely flying. The ring is
    very unique. It has five diamonds that make her Marquez shape.
    It was nice to see a ring that's not just
    your typical oval shaped diamond out there. I am very
    intrigued to see if more details about this divorce emerge.

    (28:39):
    Surely someone's going to start speaking to the media. Well,
    we're gonna leave things there, but we do have an
    exciting subs episode ready to go on Wednesday.

    Speaker 2 (28:47):
    Yeah.

    Speaker 1 (28:47):
    It's called Spill Your Guts or Fill Your Guts, So
    we're gonna be answering some juicy questions that listeners have
    sent in and having a look at them. I'm already
    feeling a bit nervous about how this is going to
    go down. Yeah, we did set up at NGL think
    it seemed like a bit of a throwback, but I
    thought some people might like to be anonymous. This podcast
    was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people
    of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past

    (29:09):
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