Sophie Guidolin has returned to YouTube in a bid to rebrand herself. The controversial influencer appears keen to wipe the slate clean after what she calls the toughest year of her life. *TW: We do touch on issues related to child loss
Three high-profile Australian feminists are being accused of betraying their community after taking part in an elaborate prank with comedy duo the Inspired Unemployed.
Entrepreneur and former boyfriend of Instagram, Mitch Third, has received backlash after urging women to step into their feminine energy.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Coming up on today's show, Mitch Third urges women to
step into their feminine energy. Sophie Guidolin TEASER's mystery man
as she opens up about her health struggles and the
inspired Unemployed's feminist prank. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's
your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news
twice a week. I'm Kate Tama, and we had to
(00:27):
pause recording Amy because you've got a very important email. Yes,
my wedding photos just arrived in my inbox. I got
a text message from my photographer saying, oh, what did
you think of the photos?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm like, I.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Haven't seen them. They must have got to jump. I
just love how I can see them on your screen
at the moment, we promise that we will actually turn
that off so that this episode isn't all over the
place and we're just looking at photos. I feel like
it's a bit of a flex. But your photographer actually
also took photos at Kayla Itsinas's wedding. That shows just
how small Adelaide is. And further too that we did
(00:58):
a deep dive on Bardo a couple of months ago,
and my mind was absolutely blown when we found out
This photographer is actually the niece of Sally Polaranus. Yeah.
I didn't know all of this before booking her. I
just saw some of her work and I was like,
I need to have this photographer. Her name is by
Christina if anyone's interested. It just shows how small Adelaide
is now, Sophy, it's officially the end of wedding season
(01:19):
because you had your sister in law's wedding over the weekend. Subsequently,
now ill in bed. Yeah, as you can probably tell
from my voice, I don't know if I've come down
with the VID.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I actually haven't done a.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
COVID test yet, but all symptoms are pointing to yes.
But I am wanting to do the podcast today. I'm
very excited to actually be doing something. And I think
that this croaky voice is testament to the fact that
we have had a massive start to the year with
three weddings, so many family events. It was such a
beautiful wedding on the weekend, there were two hundred people.
(01:50):
It's also gather around in Adelaide. Well, it was gathered
around in Adelaide, so I.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Think there will be a bit of sickness going around.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Now. I have some good news for the listeners. I
do not have gestational diabetes, so I where you're going
with that. I was so worried because I mentioned last
week that I had the glucose test the day after
the Easter long weekend, and I was like, what is
my luck? But it all came back clear, so I
can continue feasting on the massive amount of Easter exit.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I have good morning, guys. That's an amazing quote I
read about four years ago that inspired me to go
all in on my business to help me sell millions
of dollars worth of my product and eventually exit for
a healthy amount.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Entrepreneur and former boyfriend of Instagram Mitch Third has received
backlash after urging women to step into their feminine energy
before we dove into it Kate, who is Mitch Third Well.
Mitch founded a reusable drink bottle company called third Fix,
and he ended up selling that company for a reported
nine hundred thousand dollars. His latest adventure is an energy
(02:58):
drink company called Let's Go Energy, which he says he'll
sell in a few years for one hundred million plus.
That's very confident of him. Mitch recently made the move
from the Gold Coast to Dubai and he shares a
lot of that business bro content that we have been
talking about on this podcast. So he currently has fifty
eight thousand followers on TikTok and his content is a
(03:20):
mix of business Flex's motivational talking and morning routines. And
when I say morning routines, it's what you think, it's
going to the gym, cold plunges, Sauna's breath work and meditation.
So last month he also joined the trend of influencers
who have refound God. So in one video he spoke
about his enlightening visit to church and said that the
(03:42):
world we live in is currently satanic. And back in
June last year, he made headlines when he posted a
video of him speeding in a luxury car in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So Mitch's name will also.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Be familiar with longtime listeners of the show because he
formerly was a boyfriend of Instagram. He originally cultivated a
following on Instagram from dating influencer Talia Scains and she
was a big part of why his drink bottle company
was so successful. So the couple were together for nearly
nine years before they broke up in twenty twenty one,
(04:14):
which blows my mind. That was three years ago now.
In twenty twenty two, Talia filed a lawsuit against Mitch,
alleging that he owes her hundreds and thousands of dollars
from their joint e commerce clothing venture third Fixed Collection
and in court documents filed in the Federal Court of Australia,
Talia alleged that the division of their business assets had
(04:35):
allegedly triggered verbal threats of violence from Mitch, which made
Talia fear for her safety. She also alleged Mitch threatened
to publish online private images of her, as well as
images and material online that would degrade her character. Now
it's important to note that Mitch denied the allegations, and
since then it's unclear whether the case was settled out
(04:55):
of court, as it's all gone very quiet. Now that
we are all up to speed, let's get into why
Mitch is in hot water again. So it all started
when Mitch answered an anonymous question on his Instagram story
that said, do you think your messaging comes across to egocentric?
I'm a female and I think half the stuff you
say is amazing and the other half is And then
(05:16):
she added an eye roll emoji now, Mitch replied, saying,
my messaging is to help men. I can't speak on
behalf of women. Do all the spiritual things I say,
but when it comes to no days off making money
being masculine, do the complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Haha.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
More females need to step into their feminine energy. We
need more stable households, not boss bitches. So, following this post,
Mitch claimed he was flooded with messages from women praising
him on his stance and asking more about his opinion
on feminine energy and his perspective on women's roles. So
Mitch responded, seems like I've sparked interest in this. I'll
(05:54):
do my best to cover this. He then went on
to write this, which I'm going to read in full
because I want to give you the full context. Yes,
I believe a female can be driven and disciplined whilst
being in their feminine energy. However, the reasoning behind why
you are driven and disciplined is the question you need
to ask yourself. Money is also a masculine energy, so
any female's drive to make money is actually masculine. You
(06:17):
need to embrace your innate feminine energy by prioritizing self care,
nurturing relationships, and trying your best to be loving and caring.
Female's superpower is at intuition and power in the spiritual realm.
I look after my partner in the physical realm, while
she looks after me in the spiritual realm. Ask yourself
what you're posting on Instagram? Is it thirst trap so
(06:38):
you're attracting little cucks? Or are you posting morning walks,
self care, cooking a clean space, your passion, etc. There
can be a harmonious blend that allows you to maintain
your drive and ambition whilst radiating a feminine confidence and
grace in.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
All aspects of your life.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The more females embody this, the more men will up
their value now. Mitch also went onto answer a question
about whether he wanted kids, and he replied that this
time last year he didn't want any, but now he
wants four to six children, and he explained that his
whole perspective on the topic had changed, writing how are
we supposed to fight against these left wing psychos when
(07:16):
there's hardly any of us? Get strong, get rich, know
your purpose, become emotionally intelligent, spiritually aligned, connected to God,
and have a family. Now The backlash was immediate, with
influencer watchdog accounts sharing screenshots of Mitch's responses. Abby Chatfield
weighed in on the conversation, writing on one page, is
this real? She then added, I don't know who he is.
(07:40):
Can someone explain now? Other influences chimed in with Brooke
Hogan adding a vomiting face emoji, while Kira Rumble wrote
is this a late April fool or question mark? Someone
also summarized it really well. They said, to paraphrase, to
be feminine is to work for free. To be masculine
is to work for money. Seems fair. Now, there is
a lot to discuss, and Mitch's commentary is really just
(08:03):
the tip of the iceberg on the conservative agenda that
is currently being pushed on TikTok because feminine energy has
been trending on the app since late last year and
it's already got over five billion views, and as to
be expected with TikTok trends, the concept that originally stemmed
from Chinese philosophy involving yin and yang has been completely
(08:25):
lost in the algorithm. And I feel like you only
have to look at this growing obsession with tradwives and
Nara Smith and the soft life trend to recognize that
there is currently a real push for women to revert
back to the nineteen fifties gender norms.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, all of.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
These trends seem to romanticize traditional values and focus on
women getting back into the home and embracing the female
gender stereotypes. And of course guys who want to take
over the business world are the ones trying to push this.
I just find what is Mitch's motivation to push this
because he wants to dominate the business world and there
(09:00):
are so many successful young women who are dominating that
space at the moment, particularly the influencer space, because that
is one area where we have seen women trump men
in every aspect, and I think that's why the space
often gets mocked. And it was interesting how we spoke
about posting first traps because, as we mentioned, he used
to date Talia Skeins and a lot of her content
(09:22):
is bikini photos and you would say first traps, and
it seems like he was trying really hard to denegrate
what she does and also tell women that they shouldn't
be posting like that. And I feel like saying, mate,
you made a lot of money off it when you
utilize her to set up your initial drink pos posting
pictures of himself topless all the time as well, what's
(09:42):
the difference. I also hate the way that it's, oh,
you'll get a nice guy if you do all of
these things that I say. And I think the most
disturbing part about this whole trend on TikTok is it's
actually women who are getting behind it. So women are
being told that if they embrace their feminine energy, they'll
attract a man. And you often see dating coaches on
(10:03):
TikTok telling women that in order to be more appealing
to men, that they actually need to tone down their
success and their goals to seem more feminine. So one
creator called earth Angel Ariana shared a video titled how
to Get Men to take care of You, and in
this video, she told women to regress to a childlike
helpless state to get a man to give them what
(10:24):
they desire, and she advised women to shift their mindset
when asking a man to do something, and instead of
feeling like they could complete the task themselves, she told
them to feel like they were the man's daughter in question.
I feel like we're at this point in society where
there is this false sense of security the feminism has
reached its end goal, when in reality, sexism has just
(10:47):
changed from avert messaging to subtle messaging, which I think
is way more dangerous because it becomes deceptive. And the
fact that spirituality is now being used as a vessel
for sexism is really scary. Yeah. I think content creators
who are buying into this trend really do need to
consider the damage that they are doing to young and
impressionable people because they are essentially twisting the concept of
(11:11):
female empowerment and reinforcing values that have historically oppressed women.
And there is a massive flow and effect to these
regressive TikTok trends, and there is no denying that this
is part of a deliberate effort from Republicans and right
wing conservatives to control women at e road their rights.
I could not agree more, particularly because in Western countries
(11:32):
women are not having enough children to replace the population,
so this is very unsubtle messaging to get women to
go home and have babies and look after them and
stay out of men's way.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
The worst rag in history. I've just lived through fifty
minutes of famine to tell for a social experiment.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Three high profile Australian feminists are being accused of betraying
their community after taking part in an elaborate prank with
comedy duo The Inspired Unemployed Kate. Before we get into
the story, who are the key players? So you've got
The Inspired Unemployed, who are an ossie comedy duo with
over two million followers on Instagram. So that duo is
(12:11):
made up of former trades and friends Jack Steele and
Matt Ford who is best known as Falcon and they
rose to fame after posting comedy skits on Instagram during
the pandemic. So they are currently recording the second series
of their TV show for Paramount Plus called The Inspired
Unemployed Impractical Jokers. Now, as for the three high profile
feminists involved, it was Clementine Ford, Antoinette Letoufe and Humi
(12:35):
Steins So. Antoinette is an Australian journalist, author and a
diversity advocate, while Umi is a feminist podcaster and author.
Now we have spoken quite a lot about Clematine Ford
on this podcast before. She is an iconic feminist, writer,
columnist and social commentator. Now things all started last week
when Clementine Ford advertised an upcoming event on her Instagram account.
(12:59):
The event, ESSI, was a free event called Love Unboxed
and was tauted as a thought provoking discussion on love
and marriage. So Clementine wrote, come see me, Antoinette and
Umi breakdown love and stuff and generally have a good
time being smart cookies Now. Antoinette responded underneath, writing looking
forward to this. So the high profile feminists were set
(13:20):
to appear on the panel with a special guest who
would give the perspective of a young male.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That young male in question was one half of the
Inspired Unemployed Jack Still. The catch was Jack didn't know
he was going to appear on the panel. It was
all part of an elaborate prank set up by producers
on his television show. Now, Sophie, you are a big
fan of this TV show. You and your partner always
told me to watch it. I haven't actually watched it.
(13:46):
It gives me Haymish and Andy prank.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Vibes, though. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The whole premise of the show is that Jack and
Falcon are placed in these really awkward situations, and they
all have ear pieces in and they've been given these
commands by their friends so if if they don't obey
a command, they get punished. And of course there's hidden
cameras set up to capture everyone's responses to their weird behavior,
and it is being reported that Jack's face dropped when
(14:10):
he realized where he was and what he was.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Being asked to do.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I do think it's important to note that Clementine, Antoinette,
and Yumi were all in on the joke. However the
audience were not. So you may be wondering how this
works in regards to getting consent to be filmed. So
when guests arrived at the event, there were signs around
the venue saying filming will be in progress. However, many
didn't really think twice about it because generally events are
(14:37):
film to make promotional videos. There were also signs saying
that people weren't allowed to film the event on their phones. However,
one audience member called maybe Lene sand Yuen has gone
viral after sharing her experience at the event, so she
decided to be sneaky and voice recorded the whole event
because she was getting so many dms from her friends
(14:57):
back in Adelaide saying they were so jealous that they
could come along, and they even described the event as
a feminist Christmas, so she thought, oh, voice record it
so that they can listen and take some things away
from this important discussion. And the event was free, so
it's not like she was doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now, she says that the event began with Antoinette introducing
what they described as a last minute guest. Now, as
we touched on, that guest was Jack. So Antoinette didn't
say where he was from, but just said he really
wanted to be there and be part of the discussion. Now,
the panel started firing really tough questions at Jack, and
Jack of course had an earpiece in and was being
(15:34):
fed really uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Lines to repeat back.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Now, whilst The Inspired Unemployed do have over two million followers,
it was clear that the majority of this audience were
unaware of who Jack was and they were in shock
at his responses. Let's throw to what maybe Lene said.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
If you could think of the most misogynistic answers and
dumb answers to these questions, that was what was being.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Said by Jack.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Some highlights that stuck in my brain include talking about consent,
which is an important topic to have, and Umi had
some great and that's the thing. All these women had
fantastic points about this, but then Jack would interject and
be like, yeah, I think chicks did consent, and it's like, okay,
not us saying chicks. And when I pointed out that
(16:18):
like everyone there, like all the women were authors, and
he's like, yeah, I really like girl writers, and I
was like, audible gasp from the audience, audible grown from
the audience, and it just continued. Another highlight was talking
about the glass ceiling and what his comment and I
was like, can we stop throwing the questions to him
because I actually I don't want to hear him speak,
which sucked because you know, at times these women had
really great contributions to the conversation, but then they kept
(16:40):
throwing like him aligned to talk more.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I was like, no, literally shut up.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And he was saying like, oh, I have a trade background,
and so I just know that like bamboo is not
a good material to use when building houses, but neither
is glass, and I was like hmm. That is when
it started to get really personally offensive to me, because
I was like, oh, I actually wanted to hear his
perspectives on this as an Asian woman facing the very
but but no, we got Jack's opinion on it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It was at this point that someone stood up and
asked if they were being punked, and this is when
the panel finally confess and explained that Jack was from
the Inspired Unemployed. They then went on to explain to
the audience that he had lost a bet and his
punishment was appearing on the panel with three strong feminists
and not being able to defend himself or have anything
(17:24):
worthwhile to say.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is being.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Reported that Jack was unaware of what the event would
be and apologize to the venue's audience after saying I'm
very sorry, guys, I look like a fuck with and
you all hate me. From the bottom of my heart,
I'm sorry. So what happened after this point? Did the
event roll on as promoted?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well maybe?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Lane said that Jack and the producers quickly got out
of there, and the rest of the panel were left
to explain to the audience what had gone on and
sort of why they were involved in this prank, and
they allegedly said that they took part so that their
message could get out there and they could get a
chance to add value to a conversation about feminism. But
Mabeline argued that they're preaching to an audience who wouldn't care,
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and their audience other people in the room who they
have now offended. She also added that they're platforming this
man and collecting their checks. I agree with her because
it was making fun of the audience, but it was
also making fun of the feminists as well by having
Jack in there making these ridiculous claims, as if it's
such a big punishment to have to go to this event.
(18:26):
I know they were there trying to make him say
controversial things that would have been extremely uncomfortable in that environment,
and I am very interested to see how this relays
onto the TV show, particularly because of the backlash. Despite
them saying that they felt there was an opportunity to
add some value to the conversation. I just think that
this skit played into the stereotypical tropes of mocking so
(18:47):
called angry feminists and all for the entertainment of men.
It also played into this view that feminists don't have
a sense of humor, and it just undermined what they
stand for. It felt like a really strange betray of
their audience because many people felt like this was their
safe place and they were really excited to actually hear
a genuine conversation, and maybe Lene said the most disappointing
(19:09):
bit is that the show just ended there. Perhaps if
they then decided, Okay, we are going to give you
a free, proper show afterwards, but many of the women
felt like their time was wasted, so they went there
just to be mocked. I'm just surprised that Clementine, Antoineae,
and Yumi would be involved in something like this, especially Clementine,
because she's the sort of person who'd probably produce some
(19:29):
kind of video response about an event like this if
she hadn't been a part of it. I assume that
maybe these women thought, well, it is with the Inspired Unemployed,
they are very well liked. People will see the fun
in this prank, but it seems to have backfired.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What I find most.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Interesting is that we recently covered how Clementine Ford called
me a freedman out for backing the so called cool group,
and I would say that the Inspired Unemployed are very
much part of that cool group. Now, so is this
an attempt for a rebrand for Clementine Ford. She can
reach a new audience and she can be seen as
being in on the joke, and maybe she becomes more
(20:06):
appealing to a broader audience. See, I just think it's
made her lose credibility with the audience that she has,
because there are a lot of people that are very
unhappy with her, particularly because she is the one that
actually promoted this event to her audience. In saying that, though,
it is hard to comment when we don't know how
this skit is going to be portrayed on the show,
and also everything that happened at the event, Like I
(20:27):
understand that Mayberlene recorded it, but again when we actually
haven't seen it presented in its official format, then it
is hard to comment on. It's interesting we haven't heard
from Clementine as well, because she's obviously facing a bit
of backlash, but I assume she's probably signed a confidentiality
agreement with Paramount pluss Well, the prank was discussed on
the project on Friday, and it's interesting to note that
(20:50):
the project is owned by Paramount Plus and they did
point that out at the start of the segment, and
Wileie presented the argument that the event was free, so
weren't losing out. However, Maybelene rejects that theory and she
said that time is money, and she can't believe that
they wasted theirs to pay the paychecks of these people.
That's a pretty poor argument to be like, oh, it's
(21:12):
a free event, so we can do whatever we want. Like,
it's actually ridiculous because, as she said, their time isn't free,
and also people would have had to pay to get
public transport there. They may have given time off work
to go, like, you don't know what everyone else's circumstances are.
The other thing was that this event took place at nighttime,
and many of the audience made the point that they
(21:32):
thought they were going to an event that would help
make the women feel more powerful and give them ways
to deal with the fear of walking home alone for instant. However,
they go to this event, they're mocked, and then they
have to walk home alone scared. I just thought that
was a really interesting concept. And maybe Lene also pointed
out on TikTok, why couldn't it be that the audience
(21:52):
were also in on the joke with Clem and everyone,
and because it would still be funny the fact that
Jack thinks that he's been suer offensive to this audience,
and maybe some of them also could have berated him
from the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Why was the joke just on the women in the.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Crowd because it was meant to be on Jack. But
really it's not like Jack at all. He is benefiting
from it. He's getting content for his TV show. The
joke was on the audience, who got nothing out of it.
We haven't seen the full skit play out, But what
do you say to those people who say, oh, well,
this is just a bit of fun. It's a preak
because as someone who enjoys the show a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Of the time, these skits are funny.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, that's why I've said the whole time. It's going
to be very interesting to see how this translates onto
the TV show. The fact that the producers managed to
persuade Clementine, Yumi and Antoinette to be on it is
also a big sticking point for me because it doesn't
make sense that they would all agree to do it
and this be something very negative. So again, I think
this is a little bit of a wait and see
(22:48):
how this is all going to go.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
The most recent lump has been very prominent on my
social media and has caused a lot of questions that
I'm constantly having to deflect, and I don't like that
feeling of deflecting or having to know our aunts or
not tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Sophie Gwiedlin has returned to YouTube in a bid to
rebrand herself. The controversial influencer appears keen to wipe the
slate clean after what she calls the toughest year of
her life, and she has well and truly done that
figuratively speaking by deleting all her old YouTube videos. So
her channel now only has five videos on it and
they've all been uploaded in the last two months. And
(23:31):
it is interesting that she's chosen YouTube as her rebranding
platform because it's actually not her biggest channel. She only
has seventeen thousand subscribers on YouTube, but from what she says,
she actually wants to reduce the size of her audience.
So she said that she's trying to create more of
an intimate platform for those who actually want to support her,
(23:51):
and those who don't can just scroll on. So, in
terms of what to expect from Sophie's YouTube channel, she
says it will be unfiltered, unapologetic, and unmistakably real and
it's a place where fitness, motherhood, wellness and business collide.
She was also promising a new vlog each week. Let's
thrown a more of what she said in her intro video.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
On this channel. You will feel like you were a
part of my life, my best in my companion. I
am going to show you and document and take you
with me on every single step of every single part
of my journey. Give me sixty six days, let me
show you how it's done. Join me hit subscribe now.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's an interesting approach from Sophie, and I can see
why she's done it because she has copped so much
criticism over the last twelve months. And these videos are
not your typical influence of logs. They've been filmed in
a documentary style, so they've got master interviews from Sophie
and her kids, and I noticed that it was actually
Sophie that was throwing the interview questions to her children.
I actually didn't pick that up. I was more impressed
(24:54):
with the high quality nature of the videos. I mean,
they're not particularly long, they only go for around five
to ten minutes, but I actually really liked the style
of the way that they're being filmed, and I wonder
if other influencers are going to go down this route.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But that's an.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Interesting strategy in itself, and I wonder if it is
something that we will see more influences implementing, because a
lot of the feedback is that people like content that
is organic and not overly produced in this way see Sophie.
I actually think the opposite. I think TikTok have really
changed the game in terms of content creation. They've come
out and said that Netflix is their biggest competitor, not
(25:28):
Instagram or Facebook, and they are really pushing high quality
long form content on their platform. So I actually think
that this may be a trend we'll be seeing more
and more of. It had a very cut, ashy and
esque vibe to it, Didn't it the way it was shot? Okay,
I know you said that long form content is now
going to be favored, but I actually liked how short
(25:49):
and concise this content was because I find myself getting
bored sometimes when I watch a forty five minute log
when people have just let it run and run. But
you could tell she was very clever in which parts
she acted aired, and I think that is where the
difference lies with high quality content verse influences just filming
themselves unstacking the dishwasher or doing book reviews. I wonder
if she is moving towards this sort of content because
(26:11):
it puts a barrier up between her and her audience.
Because she's not taking her own vlog camera inside her house.
It doesn't have that person next door feel to it.
It almost as though she's positioning herself above all the
drama and above all the crap, and she is allowing
you into certain aspects of her life. It's also a
format a lot of celebrities have used recently in a
(26:33):
way to redeem themselves and also sway audiences perceptions of them,
and I think it's clear that's what Sophie's trying to achieve.
She is really trying to reinstate herself also as a
fitness professional, because in her first episode, it's just her
going to the gym with her son Kai, and she
speaks a lot about techniques, and it's almost like she's
(26:53):
trying to reintroduce herself and set this new narrative. And
I found the way she used her kids in these
vlogs interesting because, as we touched on, they do master
interviews and Amy, as you said, she actually is interviewing
her kids, and it's so clever because they basically talk
for her and build her reputation up. So one of
(27:13):
her son's writer was actually talking about how his mom
needs to go back to her original community who were
actually supportive of her. And to me, that spoke volumes
because you can see that her kids have been with
her every step of the way when she's been trolled
and all these horrible things have happened to her in
the past twelve months, and it was just a little
insight into how it actually affects the whole family. Yeah,
(27:34):
it's a clever PR strategy, and I mean Sophie. We
often talk about it with some of our clients. What
better way to promote yourself positively than have somebody else
give you a glowing testimonial, and that's exactly what her
kids have done. Do we think that a PR agency
or a marketing team has approached Sophie, because obviously she's
got some sort of videography team working with her. Do
you or do you think that she's gone to them
(27:55):
and said, I need to work and change my reputation
at the moment, because she has had a tough couple
of years in social media where she has found herself
at the center of a lot of controversies. I mean,
it is clear that she is working with a third party,
and I'm not sure who seeked out who, but for me,
it's actually working. I actually think that this is a
really good strategy. The second episode was interesting because again
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she did use the same techniquehere she let her kids
talk somewhat on her behalf and it was really sad
because her son Writer spoke about what a hard year
it had been not only for his mum but their
whole family, and he touched on the passing of his
late sister Pixie, who Sophie sadly lost to steelbirth last year.
Let's throw to some of what Writers said about his mum.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
My mom is nothing like whatever you would read. She
does not do anything that would be like negative in anyway.
She just chose to inspire and help young ladies and
to be their better selves. And she's perfect. I guess
very proud of Mom. She's done a what a good.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Amy. You obviously touched on it just a second ago,
But this is a very powerful storytelling technique that really
makes you change your perception of Sophie. It is really
clever because I think people are sick of seeing influencers
talking directly to the camera. We've got a bit of
fatigue about it. Sometimes if an influencer is talking about
their problems, it can come across as a little bit insincere.
(29:23):
But this style of talking to somebody off camera, it's
used a lot in documentaries, it's used a lot in
news productions, and it seems they're being asked about something
and they're providing their response and it's cut up into
a grap Well, it seems more genuine they're talking to
another person. That's interesting though, because most of the time
people suggest that people should talk down the barrel of
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the camera because it's a better way to connect with
the audience who's watching at home. I suppose maybe because
it's a technique that we've been seeing influencers use too much.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So yeah, it's an interesting theory.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, I also think it's because of this concise nature
of the vlogs that someone has helped sit down and
actually produce it and say this is the best grab.
Because an influencer can say, down the barrel a really
good grab, but then they'll have about ten more minutes
of absolute crap that wasn't needed to be included, and
it kind of just sounds like they're trying to make excuses.
(30:15):
I think also because she's touching on such a sad topic,
the still birth of her daughter, it seems more genuine
that she is talking off to somebody, do you know
what I mean? Like is in if an influence is
talking about what they're doing today, it makes sense to
say that down the barrel of the camera, But this
seems like such a sensitive issue to talk about that
the way it's been produced, it just seems a little
(30:37):
bit more sincere. I do love that Sophie is really
addressing things head on in these vlogs because in the
third episode that dropped recently, she provided a health update,
and for many months, Sophie's followers have been speculating about
her health after spotting this visible lump on her breast,
and the speculation led to further concern last Tuesday when
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Sophie shared on Instagram she was in hospital for an
undisclosed illness. So she ended up posting a photo of
her in a hospital bed wearing a mask connected to
a drip, and she captured the photo. I'm not ignoring anyone,
I'm just having a quick little retreat. Laugh or you
will cry. So it turns out Sophie is still suffering
from the ill effects of her PIP breast implants that
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ruptured more than ten years ago. So she explained that
she originally got breast implants because she had to have
a medical grade breast reduction. I wasn't aware of this
because I haven't been following her for over ten years.
So she said she had such large breasts at the
age of fourteen that this medical grade reduction was needed,
and despite going to the best plastic surgeon in Adelaide
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and paying forty thousand dollars of her own money for
the procedure, she was one of the very unlucky women
who actually got the pp implants. So, for those who
can't remember, these implants were made with industrial silicone and
there was this big call out globally that you had
to have them removed. However, her right implant act actually
ended up rupturing and spreading industrial silicone throughout her body,
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which is so scary. I think it's worth pointing out
that most people who have a breast reduction don't necessarily
go on to get breast implants. That was her choice
to then go and do that. This is where you
can tell that she's working with a very talented team
because this vision was incredible. So she got these two
containers out, and in one container there was a breast
implant fully intact, and in the other there was a
(32:27):
ruptured one, and she pulled out the breast implant with
tongs to show how much of the silicone would have
seeped through her body. It was a very powerful image.
So Sophie ended up having surgery to replace these pp
breast implants. However, unfortunately, this time, her left implant ruptured
and this implant seeped more silicone into her body and
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the surgeons were forced to remove muscle tissue and her nipples. Now,
Sophie has now undergone over twenty surgeries and has industrial
silicone in her body that cannot be removed, and this
silicone causes inflammation markers inside her body because her body
is always trying to fight off a foreign object. So
essentially the cells then react in this way, which causes
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what they classify as a tumor. So Sophie has had
many biopsies to test these tumors and they've all come
back benign, thankfully, but she says the latest lump is
a part of the issue.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
She did reiterate that she would never ever get breast
implants again and explain that she wanted to be transparent
and that's why she's always back and forth from hospital.
At the moment, I think it'd be really difficult to
watch this and not have empathy for what she's gone through.
It sounds like it's been an absolute nightmare. And I
liked the way in that episode she said that most
people have this stereotypical view of her, that she's blonde,
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has fake boobs, and that basically that all of the
issues to do with her breasts are her fault. But
I love the fact that she explored that the reason
she initially got breast implants was because she had to
have a breast reduction, and also the fact that she
got VIP implants. I mean, that is so unlucky. Now,
this serious conversation was interrupted by a flower delivery from
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a semi mystery man. So in the video he passes
her a bunch of flowers, and then later on there
is a zoom out where you can see him sitting
on the couch, so people did get quite a good
look at him, and there are reports that his name
is Nicholas White, and he's a Gold Coast personal trainer
and also a coach, and his Instagram account is private,
but Sophie follows him, so it's all good science. I
(34:29):
am surprised that she chose to share about this mystery
man in this way, because any time she mentions she's
in a new relationship, this is when a lot of
her trolls and people who don't like her become even
more obsessed with her life and start to speculate and
create rumors. It reminded me of how the Kardashians often
just drop throughout their show that they're dating someone. It
was the same kind of koy way. I suppose she's
(34:51):
more in control in this way, and maybe she's at
a point where she's happy to include him. That is
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Thank you again for listening to another episode of Outspoken.
This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the
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Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to
elders past and present
Coming up on today's show, Mitch Third urges women to
step into their feminine energy. Sophie Guidolin TEASER's mystery man
as she opens up about her health struggles and the
inspired Unemployed's feminist prank. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's
your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news
twice a week. I'm Kate Tama, and we had to
(00:27):
pause recording Amy because you've got a very important email. Yes,
my wedding photos just arrived in my inbox. I got
a text message from my photographer saying, oh, what did
you think of the photos?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm like, I.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Haven't seen them. They must have got to jump. I
just love how I can see them on your screen
at the moment, we promise that we will actually turn
that off so that this episode isn't all over the
place and we're just looking at photos. I feel like
it's a bit of a flex. But your photographer actually
also took photos at Kayla Itsinas's wedding. That shows just
how small Adelaide is. And further too that we did
(00:58):
a deep dive on Bardo a couple of months ago,
and my mind was absolutely blown when we found out
This photographer is actually the niece of Sally Polaranus. Yeah.
I didn't know all of this before booking her. I
just saw some of her work and I was like,
I need to have this photographer. Her name is by
Christina if anyone's interested. It just shows how small Adelaide
is now, Sophy, it's officially the end of wedding season
(01:19):
because you had your sister in law's wedding over the weekend. Subsequently,
now ill in bed. Yeah, as you can probably tell
from my voice, I don't know if I've come down
with the VID.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I actually haven't done a.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
COVID test yet, but all symptoms are pointing to yes.
But I am wanting to do the podcast today. I'm
very excited to actually be doing something. And I think
that this croaky voice is testament to the fact that
we have had a massive start to the year with
three weddings, so many family events. It was such a
beautiful wedding on the weekend, there were two hundred people.
(01:50):
It's also gather around in Adelaide. Well, it was gathered
around in Adelaide, so I.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Think there will be a bit of sickness going around.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Now. I have some good news for the listeners. I
do not have gestational diabetes, so I where you're going
with that. I was so worried because I mentioned last
week that I had the glucose test the day after
the Easter long weekend, and I was like, what is
my luck? But it all came back clear, so I
can continue feasting on the massive amount of Easter exit.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I have good morning, guys. That's an amazing quote I
read about four years ago that inspired me to go
all in on my business to help me sell millions
of dollars worth of my product and eventually exit for
a healthy amount.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Entrepreneur and former boyfriend of Instagram Mitch Third has received
backlash after urging women to step into their feminine energy
before we dove into it Kate, who is Mitch Third Well.
Mitch founded a reusable drink bottle company called third Fix,
and he ended up selling that company for a reported
nine hundred thousand dollars. His latest adventure is an energy
(02:58):
drink company called Let's Go Energy, which he says he'll
sell in a few years for one hundred million plus.
That's very confident of him. Mitch recently made the move
from the Gold Coast to Dubai and he shares a
lot of that business bro content that we have been
talking about on this podcast. So he currently has fifty
eight thousand followers on TikTok and his content is a
(03:20):
mix of business Flex's motivational talking and morning routines. And
when I say morning routines, it's what you think, it's
going to the gym, cold plunges, Sauna's breath work and meditation.
So last month he also joined the trend of influencers
who have refound God. So in one video he spoke
about his enlightening visit to church and said that the
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world we live in is currently satanic. And back in
June last year, he made headlines when he posted a
video of him speeding in a luxury car in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So Mitch's name will also.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Be familiar with longtime listeners of the show because he
formerly was a boyfriend of Instagram. He originally cultivated a
following on Instagram from dating influencer Talia Scains and she
was a big part of why his drink bottle company
was so successful. So the couple were together for nearly
nine years before they broke up in twenty twenty one,
(04:14):
which blows my mind. That was three years ago now.
In twenty twenty two, Talia filed a lawsuit against Mitch,
alleging that he owes her hundreds and thousands of dollars
from their joint e commerce clothing venture third Fixed Collection
and in court documents filed in the Federal Court of Australia,
Talia alleged that the division of their business assets had
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allegedly triggered verbal threats of violence from Mitch, which made
Talia fear for her safety. She also alleged Mitch threatened
to publish online private images of her, as well as
images and material online that would degrade her character. Now
it's important to note that Mitch denied the allegations, and
since then it's unclear whether the case was settled out
(04:55):
of court, as it's all gone very quiet. Now that
we are all up to speed, let's get into why
Mitch is in hot water again. So it all started
when Mitch answered an anonymous question on his Instagram story
that said, do you think your messaging comes across to egocentric?
I'm a female and I think half the stuff you
say is amazing and the other half is And then
(05:16):
she added an eye roll emoji now, Mitch replied, saying,
my messaging is to help men. I can't speak on
behalf of women. Do all the spiritual things I say,
but when it comes to no days off making money
being masculine, do the complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Haha.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
More females need to step into their feminine energy. We
need more stable households, not boss bitches. So, following this post,
Mitch claimed he was flooded with messages from women praising
him on his stance and asking more about his opinion
on feminine energy and his perspective on women's roles. So
Mitch responded, seems like I've sparked interest in this. I'll
(05:54):
do my best to cover this. He then went on
to write this, which I'm going to read in full
because I want to give you the full context. Yes,
I believe a female can be driven and disciplined whilst
being in their feminine energy. However, the reasoning behind why
you are driven and disciplined is the question you need
to ask yourself. Money is also a masculine energy, so
any female's drive to make money is actually masculine. You
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need to embrace your innate feminine energy by prioritizing self care,
nurturing relationships, and trying your best to be loving and caring.
Female's superpower is at intuition and power in the spiritual realm.
I look after my partner in the physical realm, while
she looks after me in the spiritual realm. Ask yourself
what you're posting on Instagram? Is it thirst trap so
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you're attracting little cucks? Or are you posting morning walks,
self care, cooking a clean space, your passion, etc. There
can be a harmonious blend that allows you to maintain
your drive and ambition whilst radiating a feminine confidence and
grace in.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
All aspects of your life.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The more females embody this, the more men will up
their value now. Mitch also went onto answer a question
about whether he wanted kids, and he replied that this
time last year he didn't want any, but now he
wants four to six children, and he explained that his
whole perspective on the topic had changed, writing how are
we supposed to fight against these left wing psychos when
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there's hardly any of us? Get strong, get rich, know
your purpose, become emotionally intelligent, spiritually aligned, connected to God,
and have a family. Now The backlash was immediate, with
influencer watchdog accounts sharing screenshots of Mitch's responses. Abby Chatfield
weighed in on the conversation, writing on one page, is
this real? She then added, I don't know who he is.
(07:40):
Can someone explain now? Other influences chimed in with Brooke
Hogan adding a vomiting face emoji, while Kira Rumble wrote
is this a late April fool or question mark? Someone
also summarized it really well. They said, to paraphrase, to
be feminine is to work for free. To be masculine
is to work for money. Seems fair. Now, there is
a lot to discuss, and Mitch's commentary is really just
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the tip of the iceberg on the conservative agenda that
is currently being pushed on TikTok because feminine energy has
been trending on the app since late last year and
it's already got over five billion views, and as to
be expected with TikTok trends, the concept that originally stemmed
from Chinese philosophy involving yin and yang has been completely
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lost in the algorithm. And I feel like you only
have to look at this growing obsession with tradwives and
Nara Smith and the soft life trend to recognize that
there is currently a real push for women to revert
back to the nineteen fifties gender norms.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, all of.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
These trends seem to romanticize traditional values and focus on
women getting back into the home and embracing the female
gender stereotypes. And of course guys who want to take
over the business world are the ones trying to push this.
I just find what is Mitch's motivation to push this
because he wants to dominate the business world and there
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are so many successful young women who are dominating that
space at the moment, particularly the influencer space, because that
is one area where we have seen women trump men
in every aspect, and I think that's why the space
often gets mocked. And it was interesting how we spoke
about posting first traps because, as we mentioned, he used
to date Talia Skeins and a lot of her content
(09:22):
is bikini photos and you would say first traps, and
it seems like he was trying really hard to denegrate
what she does and also tell women that they shouldn't
be posting like that. And I feel like saying, mate,
you made a lot of money off it when you
utilize her to set up your initial drink pos posting
pictures of himself topless all the time as well, what's
(09:42):
the difference. I also hate the way that it's, oh,
you'll get a nice guy if you do all of
these things that I say. And I think the most
disturbing part about this whole trend on TikTok is it's
actually women who are getting behind it. So women are
being told that if they embrace their feminine energy, they'll
attract a man. And you often see dating coaches on
(10:03):
TikTok telling women that in order to be more appealing
to men, that they actually need to tone down their
success and their goals to seem more feminine. So one
creator called earth Angel Ariana shared a video titled how
to Get Men to take care of You, and in
this video, she told women to regress to a childlike
helpless state to get a man to give them what
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they desire, and she advised women to shift their mindset
when asking a man to do something, and instead of
feeling like they could complete the task themselves, she told
them to feel like they were the man's daughter in question.
I feel like we're at this point in society where
there is this false sense of security the feminism has
reached its end goal, when in reality, sexism has just
(10:47):
changed from avert messaging to subtle messaging, which I think
is way more dangerous because it becomes deceptive. And the
fact that spirituality is now being used as a vessel
for sexism is really scary. Yeah. I think content creators
who are buying into this trend really do need to
consider the damage that they are doing to young and
impressionable people because they are essentially twisting the concept of
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female empowerment and reinforcing values that have historically oppressed women.
And there is a massive flow and effect to these
regressive TikTok trends, and there is no denying that this
is part of a deliberate effort from Republicans and right
wing conservatives to control women at e road their rights.
I could not agree more, particularly because in Western countries
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women are not having enough children to replace the population,
so this is very unsubtle messaging to get women to
go home and have babies and look after them and
stay out of men's way.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
The worst rag in history. I've just lived through fifty
minutes of famine to tell for a social experiment.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Three high profile Australian feminists are being accused of betraying
their community after taking part in an elaborate prank with
comedy duo The Inspired Unemployed Kate. Before we get into
the story, who are the key players? So you've got
The Inspired Unemployed, who are an ossie comedy duo with
over two million followers on Instagram. So that duo is
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made up of former trades and friends Jack Steele and
Matt Ford who is best known as Falcon and they
rose to fame after posting comedy skits on Instagram during
the pandemic. So they are currently recording the second series
of their TV show for Paramount Plus called The Inspired
Unemployed Impractical Jokers. Now, as for the three high profile
feminists involved, it was Clementine Ford, Antoinette Letoufe and Humi
(12:35):
Steins So. Antoinette is an Australian journalist, author and a
diversity advocate, while Umi is a feminist podcaster and author.
Now we have spoken quite a lot about Clematine Ford
on this podcast before. She is an iconic feminist, writer,
columnist and social commentator. Now things all started last week
when Clementine Ford advertised an upcoming event on her Instagram account.
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The event, ESSI, was a free event called Love Unboxed
and was tauted as a thought provoking discussion on love
and marriage. So Clementine wrote, come see me, Antoinette and
Umi breakdown love and stuff and generally have a good
time being smart cookies Now. Antoinette responded underneath, writing looking
forward to this. So the high profile feminists were set
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to appear on the panel with a special guest who
would give the perspective of a young male.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That young male in question was one half of the
Inspired Unemployed Jack Still. The catch was Jack didn't know
he was going to appear on the panel. It was
all part of an elaborate prank set up by producers
on his television show. Now, Sophie, you are a big
fan of this TV show. You and your partner always
told me to watch it. I haven't actually watched it.
(13:46):
It gives me Haymish and Andy prank.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Vibes, though. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The whole premise of the show is that Jack and
Falcon are placed in these really awkward situations, and they
all have ear pieces in and they've been given these
commands by their friends so if if they don't obey
a command, they get punished. And of course there's hidden
cameras set up to capture everyone's responses to their weird behavior,
and it is being reported that Jack's face dropped when
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he realized where he was and what he was.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Being asked to do.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I do think it's important to note that Clementine, Antoinette,
and Yumi were all in on the joke. However the
audience were not. So you may be wondering how this
works in regards to getting consent to be filmed. So
when guests arrived at the event, there were signs around
the venue saying filming will be in progress. However, many
didn't really think twice about it because generally events are
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film to make promotional videos. There were also signs saying
that people weren't allowed to film the event on their phones. However,
one audience member called maybe Lene sand Yuen has gone
viral after sharing her experience at the event, so she
decided to be sneaky and voice recorded the whole event
because she was getting so many dms from her friends
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back in Adelaide saying they were so jealous that they
could come along, and they even described the event as
a feminist Christmas, so she thought, oh, voice record it
so that they can listen and take some things away
from this important discussion. And the event was free, so
it's not like she was doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now, she says that the event began with Antoinette introducing
what they described as a last minute guest. Now, as
we touched on, that guest was Jack. So Antoinette didn't
say where he was from, but just said he really
wanted to be there and be part of the discussion. Now,
the panel started firing really tough questions at Jack, and
Jack of course had an earpiece in and was being
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fed really uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Lines to repeat back.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Now, whilst The Inspired Unemployed do have over two million followers,
it was clear that the majority of this audience were
unaware of who Jack was and they were in shock
at his responses. Let's throw to what maybe Lene said.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
If you could think of the most misogynistic answers and
dumb answers to these questions, that was what was being.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Said by Jack.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Some highlights that stuck in my brain include talking about consent,
which is an important topic to have, and Umi had
some great and that's the thing. All these women had
fantastic points about this, but then Jack would interject and
be like, yeah, I think chicks did consent, and it's like, okay,
not us saying chicks. And when I pointed out that
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like everyone there, like all the women were authors, and
he's like, yeah, I really like girl writers, and I
was like, audible gasp from the audience, audible grown from
the audience, and it just continued. Another highlight was talking
about the glass ceiling and what his comment and I
was like, can we stop throwing the questions to him
because I actually I don't want to hear him speak,
which sucked because you know, at times these women had
really great contributions to the conversation, but then they kept
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throwing like him aligned to talk more.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
I was like, no, literally shut up.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And he was saying like, oh, I have a trade background,
and so I just know that like bamboo is not
a good material to use when building houses, but neither
is glass, and I was like hmm. That is when
it started to get really personally offensive to me, because
I was like, oh, I actually wanted to hear his
perspectives on this as an Asian woman facing the very
but but no, we got Jack's opinion on it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It was at this point that someone stood up and
asked if they were being punked, and this is when
the panel finally confess and explained that Jack was from
the Inspired Unemployed. They then went on to explain to
the audience that he had lost a bet and his
punishment was appearing on the panel with three strong feminists
and not being able to defend himself or have anything
(17:24):
worthwhile to say.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is being.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Reported that Jack was unaware of what the event would
be and apologize to the venue's audience after saying I'm
very sorry, guys, I look like a fuck with and
you all hate me. From the bottom of my heart,
I'm sorry. So what happened after this point? Did the
event roll on as promoted?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well maybe?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Lane said that Jack and the producers quickly got out
of there, and the rest of the panel were left
to explain to the audience what had gone on and
sort of why they were involved in this prank, and
they allegedly said that they took part so that their
message could get out there and they could get a
chance to add value to a conversation about feminism. But
Mabeline argued that they're preaching to an audience who wouldn't care,
(18:05):
and their audience other people in the room who they
have now offended. She also added that they're platforming this
man and collecting their checks. I agree with her because
it was making fun of the audience, but it was
also making fun of the feminists as well by having
Jack in there making these ridiculous claims, as if it's
such a big punishment to have to go to this event.
(18:26):
I know they were there trying to make him say
controversial things that would have been extremely uncomfortable in that environment,
and I am very interested to see how this relays
onto the TV show, particularly because of the backlash. Despite
them saying that they felt there was an opportunity to
add some value to the conversation. I just think that
this skit played into the stereotypical tropes of mocking so
(18:47):
called angry feminists and all for the entertainment of men.
It also played into this view that feminists don't have
a sense of humor, and it just undermined what they
stand for. It felt like a really strange betray of
their audience because many people felt like this was their
safe place and they were really excited to actually hear
a genuine conversation, and maybe Lene said the most disappointing
(19:09):
bit is that the show just ended there. Perhaps if
they then decided, Okay, we are going to give you
a free, proper show afterwards, but many of the women
felt like their time was wasted, so they went there
just to be mocked. I'm just surprised that Clementine, Antoineae,
and Yumi would be involved in something like this, especially Clementine,
because she's the sort of person who'd probably produce some
(19:29):
kind of video response about an event like this if
she hadn't been a part of it. I assume that
maybe these women thought, well, it is with the Inspired Unemployed,
they are very well liked. People will see the fun
in this prank, but it seems to have backfired.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What I find most.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Interesting is that we recently covered how Clementine Ford called
me a freedman out for backing the so called cool group,
and I would say that the Inspired Unemployed are very
much part of that cool group. Now, so is this
an attempt for a rebrand for Clementine Ford. She can
reach a new audience and she can be seen as
being in on the joke, and maybe she becomes more
(20:06):
appealing to a broader audience. See, I just think it's
made her lose credibility with the audience that she has,
because there are a lot of people that are very
unhappy with her, particularly because she is the one that
actually promoted this event to her audience. In saying that, though,
it is hard to comment when we don't know how
this skit is going to be portrayed on the show,
and also everything that happened at the event, Like I
(20:27):
understand that Mayberlene recorded it, but again when we actually
haven't seen it presented in its official format, then it
is hard to comment on. It's interesting we haven't heard
from Clementine as well, because she's obviously facing a bit
of backlash, but I assume she's probably signed a confidentiality
agreement with Paramount pluss Well, the prank was discussed on
the project on Friday, and it's interesting to note that
(20:50):
the project is owned by Paramount Plus and they did
point that out at the start of the segment, and
Wileie presented the argument that the event was free, so
weren't losing out. However, Maybelene rejects that theory and she
said that time is money, and she can't believe that
they wasted theirs to pay the paychecks of these people.
That's a pretty poor argument to be like, oh, it's
(21:12):
a free event, so we can do whatever we want. Like,
it's actually ridiculous because, as she said, their time isn't free,
and also people would have had to pay to get
public transport there. They may have given time off work
to go, like, you don't know what everyone else's circumstances are.
The other thing was that this event took place at nighttime,
and many of the audience made the point that they
(21:32):
thought they were going to an event that would help
make the women feel more powerful and give them ways
to deal with the fear of walking home alone for instant. However,
they go to this event, they're mocked, and then they
have to walk home alone scared. I just thought that
was a really interesting concept. And maybe Lene also pointed
out on TikTok, why couldn't it be that the audience
(21:52):
were also in on the joke with Clem and everyone,
and because it would still be funny the fact that
Jack thinks that he's been suer offensive to this audience,
and maybe some of them also could have berated him
from the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Why was the joke just on the women in the.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Crowd because it was meant to be on Jack. But
really it's not like Jack at all. He is benefiting
from it. He's getting content for his TV show. The
joke was on the audience, who got nothing out of it.
We haven't seen the full skit play out, But what
do you say to those people who say, oh, well,
this is just a bit of fun. It's a preak
because as someone who enjoys the show a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Of the time, these skits are funny.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, that's why I've said the whole time. It's going
to be very interesting to see how this translates onto
the TV show. The fact that the producers managed to
persuade Clementine, Yumi and Antoinette to be on it is
also a big sticking point for me because it doesn't
make sense that they would all agree to do it
and this be something very negative. So again, I think
this is a little bit of a wait and see
(22:48):
how this is all going to go.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
The most recent lump has been very prominent on my
social media and has caused a lot of questions that
I'm constantly having to deflect, and I don't like that
feeling of deflecting or having to know our aunts or
not tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Sophie Gwiedlin has returned to YouTube in a bid to
rebrand herself. The controversial influencer appears keen to wipe the
slate clean after what she calls the toughest year of
her life, and she has well and truly done that
figuratively speaking by deleting all her old YouTube videos. So
her channel now only has five videos on it and
they've all been uploaded in the last two months. And
(23:31):
it is interesting that she's chosen YouTube as her rebranding
platform because it's actually not her biggest channel. She only
has seventeen thousand subscribers on YouTube, but from what she says,
she actually wants to reduce the size of her audience.
So she said that she's trying to create more of
an intimate platform for those who actually want to support her,
(23:51):
and those who don't can just scroll on. So, in
terms of what to expect from Sophie's YouTube channel, she
says it will be unfiltered, unapologetic, and unmistakably real and
it's a place where fitness, motherhood, wellness and business collide.
She was also promising a new vlog each week. Let's
thrown a more of what she said in her intro video.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
On this channel. You will feel like you were a
part of my life, my best in my companion. I
am going to show you and document and take you
with me on every single step of every single part
of my journey. Give me sixty six days, let me
show you how it's done. Join me hit subscribe now.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's an interesting approach from Sophie, and I can see
why she's done it because she has copped so much
criticism over the last twelve months. And these videos are
not your typical influence of logs. They've been filmed in
a documentary style, so they've got master interviews from Sophie
and her kids, and I noticed that it was actually
Sophie that was throwing the interview questions to her children.
I actually didn't pick that up. I was more impressed
(24:54):
with the high quality nature of the videos. I mean,
they're not particularly long, they only go for around five
to ten minutes, but I actually really liked the style
of the way that they're being filmed, and I wonder
if other influencers are going to go down this route.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But that's an.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Interesting strategy in itself, and I wonder if it is
something that we will see more influences implementing, because a
lot of the feedback is that people like content that
is organic and not overly produced in this way see Sophie.
I actually think the opposite. I think TikTok have really
changed the game in terms of content creation. They've come
out and said that Netflix is their biggest competitor, not
(25:28):
Instagram or Facebook, and they are really pushing high quality
long form content on their platform. So I actually think
that this may be a trend we'll be seeing more
and more of. It had a very cut, ashy and
esque vibe to it, Didn't it the way it was shot? Okay,
I know you said that long form content is now
going to be favored, but I actually liked how short
(25:49):
and concise this content was because I find myself getting
bored sometimes when I watch a forty five minute log
when people have just let it run and run. But
you could tell she was very clever in which parts
she acted aired, and I think that is where the
difference lies with high quality content verse influences just filming
themselves unstacking the dishwasher or doing book reviews. I wonder
if she is moving towards this sort of content because
(26:11):
it puts a barrier up between her and her audience.
Because she's not taking her own vlog camera inside her house.
It doesn't have that person next door feel to it.
It almost as though she's positioning herself above all the
drama and above all the crap, and she is allowing
you into certain aspects of her life. It's also a
format a lot of celebrities have used recently in a
(26:33):
way to redeem themselves and also sway audiences perceptions of them,
and I think it's clear that's what Sophie's trying to achieve.
She is really trying to reinstate herself also as a
fitness professional, because in her first episode, it's just her
going to the gym with her son Kai, and she
speaks a lot about techniques, and it's almost like she's
(26:53):
trying to reintroduce herself and set this new narrative. And
I found the way she used her kids in these
vlogs interesting because, as we touched on, they do master
interviews and Amy, as you said, she actually is interviewing
her kids, and it's so clever because they basically talk
for her and build her reputation up. So one of
(27:13):
her son's writer was actually talking about how his mom
needs to go back to her original community who were
actually supportive of her. And to me, that spoke volumes
because you can see that her kids have been with
her every step of the way when she's been trolled
and all these horrible things have happened to her in
the past twelve months, and it was just a little
insight into how it actually affects the whole family. Yeah,
(27:34):
it's a clever PR strategy, and I mean Sophie. We
often talk about it with some of our clients. What
better way to promote yourself positively than have somebody else
give you a glowing testimonial, and that's exactly what her
kids have done. Do we think that a PR agency
or a marketing team has approached Sophie, because obviously she's
got some sort of videography team working with her. Do
you or do you think that she's gone to them
(27:55):
and said, I need to work and change my reputation
at the moment, because she has had a tough couple
of years in social media where she has found herself
at the center of a lot of controversies. I mean,
it is clear that she is working with a third party,
and I'm not sure who seeked out who, but for me,
it's actually working. I actually think that this is a
really good strategy. The second episode was interesting because again
(28:17):
she did use the same techniquehere she let her kids
talk somewhat on her behalf and it was really sad
because her son Writer spoke about what a hard year
it had been not only for his mum but their
whole family, and he touched on the passing of his
late sister Pixie, who Sophie sadly lost to steelbirth last year.
Let's throw to some of what Writers said about his mum.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
My mom is nothing like whatever you would read. She
does not do anything that would be like negative in anyway.
She just chose to inspire and help young ladies and
to be their better selves. And she's perfect. I guess
very proud of Mom. She's done a what a good.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Amy. You obviously touched on it just a second ago,
But this is a very powerful storytelling technique that really
makes you change your perception of Sophie. It is really
clever because I think people are sick of seeing influencers
talking directly to the camera. We've got a bit of
fatigue about it. Sometimes if an influencer is talking about
their problems, it can come across as a little bit insincere.
(29:23):
But this style of talking to somebody off camera, it's
used a lot in documentaries, it's used a lot in
news productions, and it seems they're being asked about something
and they're providing their response and it's cut up into
a grap Well, it seems more genuine they're talking to
another person. That's interesting though, because most of the time
people suggest that people should talk down the barrel of
(29:44):
the camera because it's a better way to connect with
the audience who's watching at home. I suppose maybe because
it's a technique that we've been seeing influencers use too much.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So yeah, it's an interesting theory.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, I also think it's because of this concise nature
of the vlogs that someone has helped sit down and
actually produce it and say this is the best grab.
Because an influencer can say, down the barrel a really
good grab, but then they'll have about ten more minutes
of absolute crap that wasn't needed to be included, and
it kind of just sounds like they're trying to make excuses.
(30:15):
I think also because she's touching on such a sad topic,
the still birth of her daughter, it seems more genuine
that she is talking off to somebody, do you know
what I mean? Like is in if an influence is
talking about what they're doing today, it makes sense to
say that down the barrel of the camera, But this
seems like such a sensitive issue to talk about that
the way it's been produced, it just seems a little
(30:37):
bit more sincere. I do love that Sophie is really
addressing things head on in these vlogs because in the
third episode that dropped recently, she provided a health update,
and for many months, Sophie's followers have been speculating about
her health after spotting this visible lump on her breast,
and the speculation led to further concern last Tuesday when
(30:58):
Sophie shared on Instagram she was in hospital for an
undisclosed illness. So she ended up posting a photo of
her in a hospital bed wearing a mask connected to
a drip, and she captured the photo. I'm not ignoring anyone,
I'm just having a quick little retreat. Laugh or you
will cry. So it turns out Sophie is still suffering
from the ill effects of her PIP breast implants that
(31:19):
ruptured more than ten years ago. So she explained that
she originally got breast implants because she had to have
a medical grade breast reduction. I wasn't aware of this
because I haven't been following her for over ten years.
So she said she had such large breasts at the
age of fourteen that this medical grade reduction was needed,
and despite going to the best plastic surgeon in Adelaide
(31:41):
and paying forty thousand dollars of her own money for
the procedure, she was one of the very unlucky women
who actually got the pp implants. So, for those who
can't remember, these implants were made with industrial silicone and
there was this big call out globally that you had
to have them removed. However, her right implant act actually
ended up rupturing and spreading industrial silicone throughout her body,
(32:04):
which is so scary. I think it's worth pointing out
that most people who have a breast reduction don't necessarily
go on to get breast implants. That was her choice
to then go and do that. This is where you
can tell that she's working with a very talented team
because this vision was incredible. So she got these two
containers out, and in one container there was a breast
implant fully intact, and in the other there was a
(32:27):
ruptured one, and she pulled out the breast implant with
tongs to show how much of the silicone would have
seeped through her body. It was a very powerful image.
So Sophie ended up having surgery to replace these pp
breast implants. However, unfortunately, this time, her left implant ruptured
and this implant seeped more silicone into her body and
(32:48):
the surgeons were forced to remove muscle tissue and her nipples. Now,
Sophie has now undergone over twenty surgeries and has industrial
silicone in her body that cannot be removed, and this
silicone causes inflammation markers inside her body because her body
is always trying to fight off a foreign object. So
essentially the cells then react in this way, which causes
(33:11):
what they classify as a tumor. So Sophie has had
many biopsies to test these tumors and they've all come
back benign, thankfully, but she says the latest lump is
a part of the issue.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
She did reiterate that she would never ever get breast
implants again and explain that she wanted to be transparent
and that's why she's always back and forth from hospital.
At the moment, I think it'd be really difficult to
watch this and not have empathy for what she's gone through.
It sounds like it's been an absolute nightmare. And I
liked the way in that episode she said that most
people have this stereotypical view of her, that she's blonde,
(33:46):
has fake boobs, and that basically that all of the
issues to do with her breasts are her fault. But
I love the fact that she explored that the reason
she initially got breast implants was because she had to
have a breast reduction, and also the fact that she
got VIP implants. I mean, that is so unlucky. Now,
this serious conversation was interrupted by a flower delivery from
(34:07):
a semi mystery man. So in the video he passes
her a bunch of flowers, and then later on there
is a zoom out where you can see him sitting
on the couch, so people did get quite a good
look at him, and there are reports that his name
is Nicholas White, and he's a Gold Coast personal trainer
and also a coach, and his Instagram account is private,
but Sophie follows him, so it's all good science. I
(34:29):
am surprised that she chose to share about this mystery
man in this way, because any time she mentions she's
in a new relationship, this is when a lot of
her trolls and people who don't like her become even
more obsessed with her life and start to speculate and
create rumors. It reminded me of how the Kardashians often
just drop throughout their show that they're dating someone. It
was the same kind of koy way. I suppose she's
(34:51):
more in control in this way, and maybe she's at
a point where she's happy to include him. That is
where we're going to leave things today. But if you
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