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May 23, 2024 31 mins

Anna McEvoy imposes strict wedding rules on Tammy Hembrow and Matt Zukowski. Anna Paul reveals she no longer feels safe in her current rental. Molly Mae is slammed for booking a budget airline for her sister’s hens…AND a micro-influencer’s expose on a restaurant backfires on her. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
news twice a week.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
On today's show, Anna Paul reveals she no longer feels
safe in her current rental, Molly May islam for booking
a budget airline for her sister's hands, and a micro
influences expose on a restaurant backfires on her. But first,
Anna Macavoy's Destination wedding was thrown into chaos when a
sandstorm threatened to ground flights and interrupt her upcoming nuptials

(00:30):
to her fiance, Michael Staples. Anna shared the news with
her TikTok followers while she and Michael were grounded on
the tarmac in Istanbul.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Here's what she said.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
So, we are getting married in that Corfu, Greece in
four days and there is a sand storm over the
island of Corfu. We are currently on the tarmac. We've
been grounded from taking off, So pray for us and
pray for help guests that ever I can get there,

(01:02):
because this was not land and not expected at all.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
This seems to be a bit of a trend at
the moment with influencers and destination weddings. Recently, Rachel Dillon
actually had to move her wedding forward because of rain
in Italy. A bit of a first world problem for influencers,
but this would have been very stressful.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I didn't realize how chaotic a sandstorm actually is. I
googled it and it turns the whole sky orange, So.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It would have completely ruined their day.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Also, it would be really difficult for guests to actually
be able to land safely at the airport. Luckily, a
day later, Anna updated her followers to say that it
was crisis averted and that the storm had passed. She
said the sky was no longer orange, but it was
still a little bit cloudy day. An orange sky actually
sounds quite nice for sunset style. Yeah, but I'm assumed

(01:51):
they're more worried about flights not being able to land.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, Luckily she did confirm that it hadn't affected any
of the guests traveling there, which was such a relief
because I have been hanging out for Tammy and Matt's
content in Greece. They always seem to keep things entertaining
for us whilst they're overseers.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
And you are referring to Tammy Hembro and Anna's co host,
Matt Szakowski. I was wondering how Anna felt about having
to invite Tammy because she has been posting a lot
of content while she's been in corfew, almost overshadowing it
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, I have seen that discussion going on online because
Tammy has been sharing a lot. So she shared a
TikTok at the airport showing that she and Matt were
traveling child free, And it did make me laugh because
Matt brought his Love Island suitcase along with him on
the tree.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Did you bring his drink bottle as well?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Not sure about the drink bottle.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
But when they were at the couple's welcome dinner, because
they had this fancy welcome dinner on the beach, and
there was this weird photo of Tammy and Matt kissing,
Anna and her fiance kissing, so they were both in
the same photo, and she captioned it lover is in
the air. It kind of felt like a bit MEMI me, like,
where getting and get We're getting married next?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
This is all about us.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
It kind of reminded me on Friends when Monica and
Phoebe were competing over who the Hottest Couple was like,
that was the vibe you really got photo she.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Was necessarily doing that.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I think it's more so because they are part of
this podcast that talks about love and relationship. It's kind
of like they're showing off that they've both now got
this successful relationship.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, I don't know about you, but I've never
had friends who say, oh, let's take a photo of
both of us kissing. No, I think the event is
about Anna and her part, not about Tammy and Matt.
And while Tammy probably isn't trying to make it about
herself because she has millions and millions of followers on
social media, people are going to be focusing on her.

(03:42):
But if Tammy didn't share anything while she was over there,
she'd probably gets slammed. Yeah, but she could share visional
photos of Anna and Michael. Yeah, but that's going to
bomb on her own social media accounts, her Instagram store. Yeah,
it's good, but no one cares about them.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
They care about Tammy.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I actually get the vibe that Anna is scared about
what Tammy is going to share to her millions the followers.
Because Matt and Anna on the most recent episode of
their podcast, had a conversation about the etiquette around what
can and can't be shared before the bride puts up
her post.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, that was really interesting.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
So Anna basically said that no one is allowed to
share anything about her wedding until she posts, and that
includes the location, you know, details of the event anything.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I think the.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Reason that everyone is building up this rivalry between the
two couples is because Matt previously said on his podcast
that he was considering proposing to Tammy whilst on Anna's
wedding trip, but he opted instead to do it in
the Maudives last year, and I think that's why everyone
is feeling a bit uncomfortable and thinking, please, don't take
their moment away from them, particularly when Tammy and Matt

(04:43):
have only been together for such a short period of time.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Now, Anna did drop a bit of a bomb on
the most recent episode of her and Matt's podcast. She
revealed that she actually got married before she left for
Corfu in a registry office, and the reason she did
that was because she has an uneven amount of bridesmaids
and groomsmen, so she has an extra groomsman and she
was worried that the feng sway of the ceremony was

(05:07):
going to be thrown off, so she has asked one
of the groomsmen to be a celebrant. However, they're not
actually officiated, so that's why she had to get married
in Australia before.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, it's all very odd though, I mean, wouldn't you
just think maybe I'll add an extra bridesmaid instead of
making them the celebrates. So does it really matter, Like,
does it really matter that much that it's.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
An odd It's a personal decision. I felt so uncomfortable
listening to this podcast though, because Matt asked Anna about
what it was like consummating the registry office marriage. Yeah,
and he seemed very interested in the lingerie that Anna
had purchased for her honeymoon. And I'm just thinking, Oh,
I just got a really slimy vibe off the whole conversation, like.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
His mouth was drooling when he asked her that question.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Maybe he thinks he's asking what everyone wants to know
that's listening.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Nah, it was beyond that. Was it just me or
was it really frustrating that he couldn't seem to understand
the difference between a registry wedding and an elopeman yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
He kept calling it a runaway wedding, and she's like, no,
it's not a runaway.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
It's just that we had to do.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
It at a registry office so that it would be
legally buying.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
He also came across as really immature talking about weddings
because Anna was saying, how, oh, I feel so old
because a lot of my friends aren't married, and he
was like, oh, yeah, look, and it's like, you're engaged, buddy.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
You know what you're not doing.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
You're not treating yourself like a baby when you should be.
When you're sad, when you're going through something, you need
to treat yourself like the five year.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
Old version of you.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Anna Paul has revealed she's moving house at the end
of the month because she no longer feels safe in
her current rental. Despite living in a gated community, the
Only Fans creator still experiences people within the community taking
photos of her house, knocking on her door and asking
for pictures in the driveway. So a follower actually messaged
Anna suggesting that she moved to an acreage, but Anna

(06:59):
replied again, I followed on my way home. Though people
only turn around at the community gate when they can't
get in. I'd be scared on an acreage that they
can just drive up into my driveway.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's crazy to think that some influencers have this level
of fame where they're being followed to their houses and
people are knocking on their doors asking for photos. I'm
not particularly surprised in the case of Anna poul though,
that people are easily able to find her, because she
does post her white car online all of the time.
She also encourages people to use whiteboard markers and ride

(07:30):
on her car. Yeah, but it doesn't give people the
right to then go and follow her to her.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
House, so definitely not.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think what's scary in this instance is that a
lot of people would view Anna as their friend because
they keep up with what she's doing every single day
with her vlogs, and it obviously is creating this really
weird parasocial relationship with her and her fans. I have
noticed her daily vlogs have dropped off quite a bit,
so I'm wondering if this is a contributor. Because we

(07:56):
saw back what in twenty sixteen, when Kim Kardashian was
robbed in Paris, how that completely changed the way she
posted online. She no longer wanted to post live updates,
and influencers probably do need to consider what they're posting
live and what they choose to then air later on
for their own safety. It'd be particularly tough for Anna

(08:16):
because her persona online is that she's very kind, she's
friendly to fans, she's bubbly all the time. But you
don't want to have to act like that every time
someone knocks on your door and invades your privacy.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
A lot, particularly in a gated community. Another big motivator
for this move is the need for more space. So
currently Anna's iconic green BMW doesn't actually fit in the
garage at the rental and it's in storage. So Anna
said her new house will have a big garage and
she'll be able to store her cars all there. I've
also seen on her tiktop that her clothes don't fit

(08:49):
in the wardrobe, so she and her family have just
been leaving them to pile up in the laundry. I'm
surprised she hasn't actually bought her own house, but I'm
now wondering if she purposely hasn't bought a property because
of this issue of people seemingly finding out where she lives.
I would assume she would own some investment properties, but
because of the lifestyle that she leads, she is overseas
a lot, so maybe rentals just work better for.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Her, especially having Addis back in twenty twenty, he was
one of those finance bros handing out advice. Surely he
would have given her the advice to invest in property well.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Anna has also opened up about her weight loss, so
in a Snapchat Q and A, which I think is
interesting in itself that she's posting on Snapchat, she admitted
that she was struggling and not in a good place
for a while.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
So she said that she lost.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Her period for eight months and was so so so
skinny and so malnourished because of stress and sadness. She wrote,
it happened so fast, I didn't even recognize myself. My
boobs completely deflated and would just loose skin, and none
of my clothes fit me anymore. The internet still comments
o zen pic on my photos and videos, But this
is just what stress can do to you. Fortunately, it

(09:55):
does appear like Anna has turned a corner. She said
that she's eating right and is happy and no longer
longer stressed. She also said that she's getting stronger and
stronger and goes to the gym four to five times.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
A week, and this weight loss coincided with her breakup
with Glenn Thompson. It is something that does happen to
you or a lot of people when they go through
a breakup. I know when I went through a breakup
without even trying to, I lost so much weight because
I was just so upset, so stressed about the situation.
But it is hard as well when you see somebody
that's in the public eye suddenly losing all of this weight.

(10:25):
Because I saw a photo that she recently shared and
I noticed that the comments were often. I assumed it
was because everyone was commenting ozen pic. But it is
where your mind first goes when somebody loses weight so rapidly,
particularly because she and Glenn really pushed this narrative that
the breakup was so amicable that they were both really happy,
but clearly behind the scenes that has not been the case.

(10:47):
Anna also did open up recently about breakup advice. So
one of her followers asked how she got through her
breakup with Glenn, and she said that you need to
treat yourself like an actual baby. So she said, treat
yourself like you're five years old and someone was mean
to you at school. So she suggested talking to yourself
like a child and acting like it's your only job

(11:09):
to make your five year old self feel good. So
she said, you know, maybe you like iced coffee, Go
get yourself a nice coffee.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
And she said, the rationale behind it is that your
five year old stealth. And she said, the rationale behind
it is that your five year old self is still
in you and hurting.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's kind of good advice.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I remember, Kate, back in the day when you were
having issues in your past relationship. When you're upset, you
said that you used to just lie in bed and
pretend you're a phone charging, like recharging your bat So
I suppose maybe that was before all of this meditation stuff.
That was my meditation, because it did really help, because
sometimes you just don't want to face the emotions that
you're feeling, so you're like, I'm currently switched off and

(11:48):
I'm charging at time on aeroplane mode.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
I I am so excited for this thory because, as
you've seen from the title, this is going to be
Zoe's hendy blogs. So you don't know who Zoe Is,
which I think a lot of you probably will zobe.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Is and my sister.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Molly May has thrown an epic Hen's weekend for her
sisters that we hatue in IBEFA. Tongues were wagging as
the former Love Island contestant use the trip as an
opportunity to post a ton of thirst traps as she
dodgers breakup rumors. Now, so this weekend kicked off with
some fans being outraged at Molly's choice of transport. Yeah,
fans seem to think it was a bit cheeky of

(12:27):
Molly to book a budget airline for her sister's Hen's weekend.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
When you say budget, it's not. It was Ryan Air.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
That would be like some influencer in Australia booking a
Tiger Fly. I know that they're defunct now, but that
is the level of transportation. But am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wouldn't the other guests be paying for the airfare so
it wouldn't have been a bit rich of Molly if
she'd booked in a private jet and forced everyone to
pay the fee. The thing is, Molly is the maid
of Honor, so she has planned the whole weekend and
I guess she probably has funded a lot of it
as well, because she earns so much money. She did
share a photo on Instagram showing the group on the
time at getting ready to board the Ryan Air flight,

(13:05):
and this led to followers weighing in. One rote, love you, Molly,
but your friend gets a private jet.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
For her b day but your sister doesn't for her.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Hens, I'd be raging, whilst another said it makes me
giggle that Molly got a jet for her mate's birthday
but Ryan Air for her sister's hen. That is the
thing I thought immediately as well, because I loved watching
the recent vogs where Molly took her friends to this
beautiful ski town and they were on a private jet.
Zoe was there, and I was expecting when Molly started

(13:34):
sharing behind the scenes of this HENS that they would
be walking onto a private jet. So I was flabbergasted
when it was rubber Ryanair. But she probably copped so
much criticism for taking her friends on that private jet
that they thought, Fuck, we don't really want to be
dealing with all this backlash when it's Zoe's Hens. Let's
just go Ryan Air exactly, not just for the most
recent time on the jet, but in the past she

(13:55):
has copped so much criticism with fans asking her to
think about her carbon foot print or saying that she
is flaunting her wealth, so it wouldn't have been a
good look to back it up again. It is interesting though,
that this strategy of oh, let's just go on a
normal budget airline seems to have backfighted.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's like you can't win.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah no, But I do think it has something to
do with the fact that a lot of Molly's followers
also folly follow Zoe, and I think that people have
a soft spot for Zoe because she seems sort.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Of like the more normal Molly may like.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
She doesn't live in this huge mansion and she's a
bit more of a normal person, so I think they
feel like she's been shortchanged.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, the funny thing about this hens is.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
It was the furthest from a budget.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
HENS that you can get.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
She pulled out all of the stops to ensure that
her sister was absolutely spoiled. So the group checked into
a luxurious villa where Molly had arranged for the pool
to be filled with heart shaped inflatable rings, and she
also organized these really cute hangover packs so they had
rehydration sachets in them as well as a beauty bag,
and they also went on a very lavish boat tree

(15:00):
as well as partied in the VIP section of a
number of different nightclubs.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So Molly really.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Did go above and beyond to make this a special weekend.
Her sister Mollie must have spent a fortune on this
trip because she did have her security team fly over with.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Her as well.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, it's clear that she didn't want anything to ruin
this trip. She has had to have security follow her
around ever since her and Tommy's apartment got robbed a
couple of years ago. Maybe she was also scared to
be away on this girl's trip without Tommy.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Then, especially if they're drinking and partying. Now, this trip
has come off the back of persistent rumors for weeks
now that Tommy and Molly have split up. So Tommy
and Molly they have been together since twenty nineteen when
they came second on Love Island, and they got engaged
last year and also share a daughter together. So the
breakup rumors were sparked on May fifth when Molly posted

(15:51):
a selfie without her six hundred thousand dollars diamond engagement
ring on and following that her ring was also missing
in subsequent stories. It wasn't as though she was trying
to hide her hand, though, because she shared a close
up of her hand wearing two other rings, so a
ring on her index finger and a middle finger ring
to show.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Off her fresh nails.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, but everyone's always trying to spot if she's wearing
this ring. I actually think it comes down to the
fact that the ring is obnoxiously big and would be
so uncomfortable to wear and perhaps probably not safe for
her to wear out in public, considering it costs so
much money and she could be robbed.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, people found it weird because Tommy was three thousand
miles away in Dubai. He was there because his brother
Tyson is fighting in a boxing match. I love how
you're like, oh, just some boxing match. Tyson Fury was
competing for the title of heavyweight world Champion.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
He did lose it as well.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, we don't care about that. We just want to
hear the gossip. There are other reasons though, that people
think a breakup has happened. One is because it was
recently Tommy's twenty fifth birthday, and usually Molly would post
a very gushing post on Instagram and she'd share some
elaborate balloon installation that she'd pay people to set up.
But this year didn't post anything.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
How was the only twenty five mins?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, she also didn't publicly congratulate Tommy for landing a
role in an upcoming comedy movie. So this is what
haspikes a lot of speculation, and what has pushed it
further is the fact that Molly May was posting a
ton of thirst traps at this Hens party.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
She looked incredible.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
She has spoken about before that she doesn't usually feel
comfortable wearing bikinis, but on this trip she lived in
bikini There's a shot of her in a cowboy hat
with a black bikini on Oh my God, she looked insane.
Don't you think this is a part of brand deals though,
Like she's obviously been dressed to go on this trip
and has to take furs of what she's wearing. I
also think it might coincide with the fact that she

(17:47):
I think she hired a personal trainer about six months ago,
and maybe she's finally feeling confident in her own body.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, the catch is.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
In these photos she is wearing her very large engagement ring,
and once she got back to the UK, she squashed
the rumors completely by sharing a photo of Tommy with
a little white love heart and a house emoji. So
I am relieved they are my favorite influencer couple. Thank
god they are not on the rocks.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah, it's just a trend. Every time she spotted without
her engagement ring on. People are going to write these
rumors because at the end of the day, people actually
don't want them to be together. I think there's quite
a lot of jealousy about this relationship and.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Its clickbait as well.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, people don't want to believe it's as good as
they make out it to be.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
This is a PSA for all creators who work with
food troble lifestyle blah blah blah. I received the most
horrible message yesterday from a restaurant wanting to work with them,
and I need to make you aware so you guys
never work with them and know your standard.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
A micro influencers attempt to expose a restaurant for a parent,
rude and unprofessional behavior has backfired. Jameson May, who promotes
herself as a travel, lifestyle, fashion and food creator, reached
out to Melbourne vegetarian restaurant Pat's regarding a collaboration. She
was left fuming though, when the restaurant replied, saying, you

(19:05):
don't seem to have any followers, maybe you should approach
us when you have over one hundred k.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
How many followers does she have?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
So she has a main Instagram account where she posts
fashion content and on that account she has fifteen thousand. However,
she posts her food and travel content on a separate
account which only has one point one thousand followers.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
That's alarm bells for me.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Why are you having to have two separate Instagram account? Yeah,
well I can see why the restaurant told her to
go get more followers now. Jameson replied, writing, sorry, but
that is extremely rude, and the restaurant hit back with this, perhaps,
but you are pretending to be influential on social media
and that's not true. And rather than me saying that
you are lying and pretending to be beneficial to our business,

(19:49):
I just said, come back when you're actually able to
do what you think we should engage you to do.
Is it rude to question something that's obviously not true?
Now you can tell in the screenshot that Jameson then.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Blocked the restaurant.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
This restaurant owner is one hundred percent correct. If you
are approaching a restaurant and you don't have a large following,
but you're giving it the big end that you've got,
You're going to benefit their restaurant highly by promoting their food.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
That is a flat out lie.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
So why can't they call it out and say, sorry,
you actually don't have the metrics for us to have.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
You in for a free meal or to pay you
to eat here.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
The nerve of her to actually ask as well, with
that kind of follower count.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Well, rather than taking the feedback on board, Jamazon took
to her TikTok to blast the restaurant in an almost
three minute rant. So she framed it as a PSA
to other content creators, but it was quite clear she
was just trying to name and shame the restaurant. So
Jameson explained that she sent her usual template to Patsy's,
but personalized it to tell them what she thinks they're

(20:49):
missing and what she can do for them. Oh she
then said.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
This, and I'm absolutely gobsmacked.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I had no words.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
I was actually like just gusted that someone could say
that to another person like this is clearly someone not
in marketing. They don't understand literally anything.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Now.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Jameson went on to say that fiyons the follow account
does not matter and it's all about your audience, engagement,
and reach. She then said, my engagement and reach, considering
I have a small follow account, is really really good.
She didn't actually cite her engagement and reach stats.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
So I would have thought that if they were so good,
you would say what they are.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
But also when you have a lower follower account, your
engagement is always going to be better. She's probably got
a lot of family and friends that are part of
her following follow account that are liking all of her
posts and engaging with it.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
She also addressed the comment about lying about being influential
and said this and.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Then the second message where they tell me I'm pretaining
to be influential, But that's not the point. The point
is to get people to go through creating fun, loving content.
It's like, yes, it's to influence them to go, but
that could pop up on the for you page and
get over a million views while three hundred followers. That's
really not how it works. But I was just disgusted
in the way that they said it. I think that's

(22:05):
what actually pissed me off more.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
She's clearly got this restaurant offside with her initial email,
because she has said that she outlined them the things
that they.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Were doing wrong in marketing and.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
How they could improve, and it's like, well, they've come
back and said, well, maybe you're not marketing yourself that
well as an influence.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
So considering you've got a thousand, and.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Also they must get so many emails like this. I
did have a look at Jamison's page, and the attention
that she's gotten off the back of this story seems
to have skewed the views on her most recent reel
because it is sitting at eight hundred and ninety five
thousand views. However, the rest of her reels ranged from
five hundred views to a couple of thousand. And I
went a step further and I looked Jameson's account up

(22:47):
on social Blade, which is a social media analysis website,
and I can't view her engagement rate because her likes
are set to private. So if she has such a
good engagement rate, then why is she hiding her likes?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Outrage culture is so rife at the moment, and it's
actually making a lot of micro influences more popular. So
they are seizing the opportunity to be outraged about something.
As you said, Kate, it is sewing her engagement rate
at the moment. In actual fact, it's the restaurant who
should be outraged. Well, maybe they should have shared a
TikTok of their response to receiving her exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Their TikTok would have blown out. I would have loved
to see that.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, well their response was pretty epic back and I
think that's why the backlash has been so swift against Jamison,
because she went out to name and shame them. But
it's her as actually ended up being criticized on TikTok. So.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
She was labeled entitled and accused of trying to get
free stuff, so much so that she was actually forced
to turn the comments off on her original post. Now,
rather than taking again that feedback on board, she claimed
that it was just because her content reached the wrong
audience on TikTok So. She said it was served to
non creators and influencers who didn't understand what was happening. Now,

(23:57):
in augue respect, we live in a social media world,
people understand the relationship between content creators and brands, So
I think that she is really trying to make a
lot of excuses here. Do you think in this instance, though,
it will actually help her social media career Because a
video blowing up like that, she's obviously got some attention.
It's ricocheted into people then watching her most recent TikTok

(24:21):
video as well.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I did go.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Over to her Instagram account and she was excitedly sharing
how a lot of traditional media outlets had reached out
for her for an interview, and at first I think
she thought it was going to be really positive, but
once the story started coming out and it was skewed
negatively towards her, she's actually gone on a break from
social media now. The owners of Patsy's have come out

(24:44):
and said it was an obvious decision for them not
to work with Jameson given her follower profile. They said,
her followers are not really people that we have in
the venue often, and probably not the market that we
are looking to engage with. I think she was just
hoping to increase her visibility with these outrage posts.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
It sort of has worked.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Already, but I'm not sure how it will be able
to be monetized As marketing, I tend to agree with them.
I also think that the pr is better for Patsy's because.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I look at them and go, oh, I really liked
that clap back.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, maybe I'll go there when I'm in Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, and you assume that anyone posting about the restaurant
actually genuinely likes it in the future, And then I'm
just being like going in for a free Mealay.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Run a weeks from here and get out of here
and show you guys her room, horas and shine.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Let's get into the highs and lows of the week.
I will kick us off. My high is finding a
dupe for Mac's studio Fixed Foundation.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I love that foundation.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
It is top tier. I've been using it ever since
I was eighteen. However, it is quite pricey, and when
I am just bumming around the house, maybe popping to
coals and going for a dog walk, I want a foundation.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
That isn't going to cost me a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
So I did some googling and I found that the
Mabeling fit Me Foundation is apparently a good jupe.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
But I'm always a little bit suspicious mark my words.
It is a great jupe. So I got the Matt
and Paulus version of the Fit Me Foundation. It's only
thirteen dollars on sale at the moment.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
It is so good.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
I would say Max Studio Fix is better in terms
of durability. You can wear it for longer, but it is.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
A great jupe for it.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, I got some and I was really impressed with it. Now,
my loaf of the week is pregnancy sleep. I am
thirty five weeks pregnant at the moment, and sleep is
not easy. I need to get up and go to
the toilet all the time. When you are pregnant, you
can't lie on your back or obviously your stomach, and
I love lying on my stomach, so I'm happy to
lie on my side. And I saw this hilarious TikTok

(26:49):
that I could not relate to more. It's said that
when you're pregnant, it feels like you're a hot dog
on one of those rotation heaters in America where you're
just going back and forth.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
It is so true.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
However, what is making me feel slightly better is TikTok
is telling me that apparently pregnancy sleep is worse than
sleep with a newborn. Oh wow, that might sound delusional.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Revisit this in a few weeks. I'm a little bit worried,
but I'm hoping that is true. Do you regret not
buying the pregnancy pillow? Now?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
No, I've been pushing through with my squish mellow simon.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Do you also regret not buying maternity clothes?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I actually purchased two NBA jumpers from cotton On that
I will be wearing, no doubt a lot in our
video is coming up. But yes, Amy, you did tell
me how terrible I looked the other day in my
jumper that I have been thrashing because it's literally more
your tites that look uncomfortable at this day.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Fine, I just couldn't stand it.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I'd need some sort of I'd need maternity jeans and
a maternity pair of tracksuit pants or pajamas.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Mark my words.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
You do not want to be wearing jeans when you're
thirty five weeks pure. Yeah, but if you're going out
to a rest on or something, yeah, you like you
just leg suck it up and just put the big uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Once you're pregnant, will see how you feel. My Love
of the Week is also sleep related.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
But it's that I'm such a night owl and I
just can't switch off at nighttime like a hop into
bed and I'm just on my phone scrolling.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's the worst.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I should put my phone down, and then it just
makes me not feel motivated in the morning and it's
so cold at the moment.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
It might be a better routine.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I think you need to put your phone away, maybe
an hour before you go. I need to lock it away,
like do people. Some people have like a cabinet that
they actually physically lock. See the other day, we were
talking about eating in the shower and my mother in
law listen to the.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Episode and she goes to me, how do you actually
go on your phone in the shower? And I'm like, fuck,
I forget people.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I know you listen to it and I'm like, oh,
I don't stand under the water.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, it's very easy. Well, my high of the week.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's a bit of a mundane one, but basically touching
on in laws. My in laws have been renovating our
house at the moment with my partner.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I need to hire them out, like.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
You guys wanted me to hire them out. They're doing
the most incredible job. They built a little shelf.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
The other day. They put shelving, well, they put Yeah,
they put shelving in.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And I'm so excited because i got my wedding photos
back this week and my high of the week is
that I'm going to get them printed and feel like
I'm in a real adult house.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Because I've been a shelf.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well, yes, I'm gonna put them on shelf, and i
just feel like I've been in rentals for so many
years that don't have that personal touch, and now that
I've lucky enough to have bought my own home, I'm
just excited to actually put those personal bits in there.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, that is really exciting.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
My high of the week would be discovering the Osborne's podcast.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean, if you're easily offended, maybe don't listen to it,
but far out It just took me back to watching
their show back in two thousand and one, and it's
made me want to go and seek it out on YouTube.
Apparently they are recording at the moment sort of like
a goggle Box style show where they do watch it
back and if you subscribe I think it's called Osborne
Media House, then you were able to see the episodes,

(30:04):
but oh my god, they are hilarious together. What sort
of It's touted as a comedy podcast. Yeah, Jack Osborne
has really grown up, and he and Kelly so their
brother and sister. They like even though they've grown up.
I love the fact that their sense of humor hasn't changed. Well,
I just love how petty they are. Like, remember there
was an iconic episode where they had this argument with

(30:25):
the neighbors and they threw ham over the phock We're.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Gonna say when they were debating whether it was he
said stick or dick.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
No no, because they had Sharon on and she was
telling a story about how they had she had this
disagreement with this movie company who were coming to film
in the Street, and they just sounded exactly the same
as they were in two thousand and one, just having
these like petty issues with everybody. My low would be
just how cold and dark it's now getting And I

(30:53):
love to go for a walk after work, but seems
to be getting so dark so quickly, and it's really
pissing me off because women can't feel safe to walk
around in the dark. And I've been having this discussion
with my partner and I'm just saying, like, you know,
for instance, he can go and jog around the block
when it's pitch black, but for me, I would feel
so unsafe, and actually where you would be on safety,

(31:14):
I would And a friend of ours, Sarah, she put
it so well. She said she was trying to explain
to her partner how you feel as a woman walking
in the dark, and she said, it's like you've taken
out all of your all the money in the bank
that you own and you're literally out in public walking
around with it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I don't think men will ever fully comprehend what it
is like.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Now.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
That is where we're going to leave things today. If
you do want to hear more content from us, we
did drop a subscriber episode yesterday with extra influencer topics.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
This podcast was recorded.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
On the traditional land of the Ghana people of the
Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present,
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