Kyree Harvey sparks debate after revealing she rehomed her family dog, Socks. Tammy Hembrow’s wholesome holiday with Matt Zukowski and her ex Reece Hawkins. Mikaela Testa’s declares she’s in love… AND the latest on Aspyn Ovard’s alleged divorce.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Coming up. On today's show, Kyrie Harvey sparks debate after
revealing she rehomed her family dog, Tammy Hambro's Wholesome Holiday
with Matt Sakowski and her ex Breez hawkiins, Mikayla Testa
declares she's in love and the latest on Aspen Ovard's
alleged divorce. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose
(00:22):
of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.
I'm Kate Torba and there is currently debate raging on
TikTok over how often you wash your pajamas. There is
a section of the internet who insists that pajamas should
be washed every day, and these people believe it's unhygienic
due to sweating overnight and also wearing them for eight
hours plasses gross. On the other hand, there were people saying,
(00:45):
you know, a couple of times a week, maybe once
a week max is normal. So if I need to
ask how often do you wash your pajamas? Well, I
don't wear pajamas every night. Usually I go to bed
with a big T shirt on and just my undies.
But on the nights I do my tan I like
to marinate in it. So I wear long pajamas and
I will wash them after every use, but that is
only because there is tan all over them. So the
(01:07):
big T shirt that you wear, is that just what
you've been wearing that day, so it's fresh every day? No, Well,
I actually do get a fresh T shirt out the
drawer probably every night, but it's more because usually I've
chucked I have a shower at night at time, I've
chucked it somewhere in the bathroom. So yes, I probably
do follow this and wear something fresh every night. See
when I saw this TikTok, I actually felt quite ashamed
because I thought washing your pajamas once a week was
(01:29):
quite frequent, because I don't really know how often I
wash mine. I usually wear winter pajama pants and it
could be a month or so before I wash those.
To make you feel better, I'm going to admit this
on the podcast. I am currently wearing underpants that I
purchase from the shop and have not washed, and that
is out of pure laziness. And I think it was
last year we did a segment about whether you should
(01:51):
wash your sheets or clothes before you wear them, and
I just think that's bullshit. Because who has the time
for that. I honestly think it's phobes that are washing
them every day because I cannot imagine the laundry. So
you're having to do laundry every day, or you have
so many pairs of pajamas, like where do you store them?
Particularly in winter when it's cold and you're having to
(02:13):
hang them on the line or put them on the
clothes horse. How are these pajamas drying in time? Yeah? Well,
some of the people that admitted to washing their pajamas
every day also said they wash their towel every day.
So look, I want to be better at it because
I feel like I've got a reputations being a bit
of a slob on this podcast. I have been really
good with my pillowcases because I feel like you do
(02:34):
need to have a consistent turnover of your pillowcase because
I have been suffering with my skin a little bit,
and I think it's down to my pillowcase. Yeah. Well,
I have to admit that when I saw this TikTok,
I actually did watch my pajamas and I probably will
be doing it more frequently. So this is everything I
did today. I started my day at about four point
thirty in the morning. I wanted to get some movement
in before the kids woke up. The Internet went into
(02:56):
meltdown when fitness influenced Tammy Hembro revealed his holidaying in
Balley with her fiance Matt Sakowski and also her baby
daddy and ex Reese Hawkins. I have to admit I
had to do a double take when I saw this
vision because Reese's in the background. They're at a beach club,
They're all with the kids. It looks very happy family. Yeah,
(03:16):
it was very wholesome. Everyone was saying that they just
felt so happy seeing this vision, and I think it's
because a lot of people know that Wolf and Saskia
their kids don't often get to see Reese because he
does live overseas, so it was special to see them
having family time. Now, Reese and Tammy were together for
four years and they called off their engagement in twenty eighteen,
(03:38):
so there has been some time that's passed for them
to co parent together and become better friends and on
better terms. I think that Tammy really has to be
commended in this situation because it does seem like she
is trying really hard to have a good relationship not
only with Reese Hawkins, but her other fiance and baby daddy,
Matt Paul or ex fiance. Yeah, I mean maybe Matt
was wondering where his invitation was. Do you think he
(04:00):
would go and join it? I just think that would
generate too many headlines if all three of them were there.
But it would be very handy because clearly Tammy and
Matt Sakowski they need some time away to sort out
what has been going on. And what better to have
your other kid's dads there to babysit. It's perfect, I
mean I don't know if it's perfect. I feel like
it could also generate some problems. A lot of people
(04:22):
were commenting that Reese looked really toned and in good
nick and he did look good. I mean, some followers
were making a few unfair comparisons between the two men's
body which was rather gross. I don't think that's right
to body shame people. I mean, I think that it's
coming off the back of people being annoyed with Matt Szakowski.
But that is so wrong. What does make it a
(04:43):
little less awkward is Reese is dating someone news, so
he is seeing an only fans star called Ruby Bisaga,
So I mean, I think it would be more awkward
if he was single and on this trip and sort
of milling around. It has been interesting to watch this
trip on fold online because Matt did take Tammy out
for her thirtieth birthday the other night, and they did
(05:04):
look very loved up, maybe a bit. They had a
few wines. I think in the bathroom at this Barley restaurant,
Tammy looked like she was about to fall over. She
didn't look in a good way. It just one thing
that didn't sit well with me was this post that
Matt put up, so Tammy was lying on a sun
bed and it was literally a photo of him grabbing
her ass cheek, and it was hopefully deleted. It seemed
(05:26):
a bit possessive. It is hard to watch on and
buy into this trip being such a good time for everyone,
because it's clear that they've gone away to work on
their relationship, but to also to celebrate Tammy's birthday. I
just feel awkward. This trip does seem like a bit
of a branding exercise for the couple. It's almost like
(05:47):
they're trying to prove something to their followers. They've been
posting a lot of very loved up Instagram reels and
a lot of declarations of love for one another. It
also seems like Matt is trying to prove his dedication
to Tammy by getting a tattoo on the trip. So
if you cast your minds back at the start of
their relationship, when Tammy was on a White Fox trip,
(06:08):
she got Matt's name tattooed on her hip. Yeah, And
it was so early on in their relationship that a
lot of people actually assumed that the tattoo had been
for her former fiance Matt Paul Yeah, and that it
was just convenient that they were both called Matt. Yeah.
So Matt has got Tammy's name now on his hip
with that little love heart. That seems fair. I think
that's a right decision for him to make. They also
(06:30):
have matching love heart tattoos that they got a couple
of months ago. I wonder if Tammy was on his
back saying, look, are you gonna get my name or what?
Because there is a rumor that he has a tattoo
on his ass of his other ex's name. It is
not Kira Maguire, it is another X. It's Genevieva believe Genevieve.
Oh god, that would be a long name on your ass. Well,
maybe it just says Jen, but I mean I'm hoping
(06:51):
maybe if he's getting it removed, it only says Jen,
because that would be quite painful. I found it quite
surprising because I had a look at Tammy Hembro's social blade,
and you would think, because she is promoting her book
at the moment, and also because all of this drama
is happening, that more and more people would be following
her and wanting to buy into her life and see
what's going on. But in the past month, she has
(07:13):
actually lost twenty five thousand followers. She seems to be
hemorrhaging followers by the day. Wow, she does have seventeen millions,
so she's not really going to miss the twenty five thousand,
but that does speak volumes that people are over the drama. Yeah,
And I think that's also why she's reframing to share
a lot of content with Matt on her Instagram, because
(07:34):
it does seem to be him who is trying to
tag her in a lot of things. And when she
does a photo dumb, the first photo will be her,
but it won't be him. Yeah, whereas it's the reverse
on his Instagram. Well, we all know why that would be.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You gotta pet.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You got a responsibility. If your dog is lost, you
don't look for an hour, then call it quits.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You get your ass out there and you find that
fucking dog.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Kyrie Harvey has sparked debate after revealing she rehomed her
family dog Socks. The influencer was forced to make the
announcement after she was bombarded with messages from her followers
after the dog disappeared from her account. Before we get
into it, Kate, who is Kyrie Harvey, Well, she is
better known by her Instagram handle Miss Kyrie Loves and
(08:21):
she's a Perth based influencer who has been sharing her
very aesthetically pleasing life on social media for over a decade.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
She is a photographer, children's author and mum of three.
Alongside her children's books, she also sells affirmation cards online
and she has over two hundred and thirty five thousand
followers on her Instagram account and has clocked up forty
six thousand on her home account. Now, she has stepped
back a little bit from her main account and mainly
posts about styling and home renovation projects on her home account.
(08:51):
As for her family dog, Socks, she adopted him back
in August twenty twenty three, and he is an adorable
Aussie doodle. Oh this dog is so cute, Like if
you wanted to buy a dog that was perfect to
fit into this esthetically pleasing social media life that Kyrie
has set up. This is the dog. Yeah, and she
did announce the exciting news with her followers by sharing
(09:11):
the moment her kids first saw Socks as a puppy,
and that video has two hundred and twenty eight thousand views.
It was a very touching moment because her daughter starts crying.
The family just looked picture perfect in it. It's like
they're in a Hallmark movie essentially. Yeah, and Socks was
a very big part of her content until he suddenly
disappeared from her feet, and this did prompt followers to
(09:32):
message Kyrie asking her about the dog. Some were concerned,
but I think it's clear that others felt as though
they were entitled to know what was going on and
where he was. It did feel like Kyrie was forced
to come out and reveal the news that she had
rehome Socks, and in a lengthy statement she shared on
her Instagram story. She admitted that she felt extremely anxious, uneasy,
(09:53):
and frightened about how people were going to react to
the news. Now, it turns out that Socks is now
living with the family who adopted one of his brothers,
so it seems like a good outcome now. Before she
went into the details about why she made the decision,
she did preface that she has become more of a
private person online over the years, and she has set
boundaries around her personal life and has been showing her
(10:15):
kids less online. She did, however, say that she felt
like she owed it to her audience to explain what
had happened, because so many of them had been really
gracious and given her good advice over the time. Kyrie
then went into detail about some of the reasons why
they did rehome Socks, and the main reason appeared to
be his size. So Kyrie wrote, even after all the
(10:35):
endless research, we thought we were so prepared, yet we
still got it wrong. We never anticipated or comprehended how
big he would get. He was thirty five kilos with
super long standard poodle legs and growing. Even with private
training at our home, his size became unmanageable for me
on my own when I also have three children. She
then also detailed how the dog's safety was becoming a
(10:58):
concern as they could couldn't stop him from climbing over
their fence and getting onto the road. She continued, there
were lots of reasons for our decision, and it was
a very depressing and gut wrenching decision to make. I
understand there will be lots of you who disagree, don't understand,
or who will be disappointed. We got a dog as
a lifelong commitment. We never intended this to be the
(11:19):
decision we'd make. My parents' dog is sixteen years old,
and I envisioned that's what we'd also have. We plan
to adopt a much smaller breed that will fit into
our family's lifestyle. I hope that you respect that as
a family, we did what's right for us and also
insured Socks was safe and love too now. She did
follow up with another post on an Instagram story that read,
(11:39):
I've seen the threads, I've seen the nasty comments. I
really hope those involved in adding to the conspiracy rumors
can put it to rest. She then appeared to get
some good feedback from her followers because she shared another
post that said, thank you for your kind words. I
was expecting it to go differently, so I really appreciate
how kind my community is. Thank you for being here.
(12:00):
Do you think it's fair to expect Kyrie to share
what happened to Socks with her audience. It's a tough
one because while it may not seem fair, I think
it's just a byproduct of the parasocial relationship the audiences
have with the influences that they follow. It's a two
way relationship, and audiences expect transparency in exchange to be
(12:20):
sold to And while it may seem like her audience
are extremely entitled, I do think it's only human, particularly
because the audience has also formed a parasocial relationship with
Socks the dog, and I think the fact that Kyrie
has used Socks in brand deals also adds an interesting
element into it all. What doesn't sit well with me, though,
is this gotcha moment that some followers seem to be
(12:42):
trying to have because there is a conspiracy that the
family has already adopted a Cocker Spaniel puppy, and some
people have spotted that Kyrie is following certain breeders pages,
and people are putting two and two together. And I
think when it's got to the level where people are
abusing you for making a decision and that's right for
your family and right for the dog, the things have
(13:03):
just gone way too far and gotten so ridiculous. I mean,
we've had friends who have had to rehome their dogs,
and it's one of the toughest decisions you can make,
and sometimes it's just a lot kinder to the dog.
As you've touched on Kate, they've rehomed it with the
dog's brother, like the family of the dog, like this
dog is it's going to be with a family who
understand that breed. I think where she went wrong was
(13:26):
actually referencing that they want to adopt another dog, because
I think it was too soon to even mention another dog.
And it does appear like the family may have another dog.
Someone has spotted a dog crate in a corner of
a photo. I got to remember that there's three young
kids involved, who I assume are distraught that their dog
has been rehomed. The parents have made the decision for
(13:48):
the family because the dog is too difficult for them.
They don't understand the complexities of it, so they know
that they still want a dog, but this dog is
the wrong breed for them. I think it just gives
off the impression that the dog is an object and
can be replaced, and while I'm not suggesting that is
the case in this situation, it just doesn't come across
right online. And I think the backlash is also coming
(14:09):
from a place of envy because Kyrie presents this very
perfect family aesthetic on Instagram and the dog really played
into this. And as we know, life isn't always aesthetically pleasing,
and there's nothing less aesthetically pleasing than rehoming your dog.
And I think a lot of people are getting pleasure
from the fact that influencers may not be as perfect
(14:30):
as they portray themselves online. I do think at the
end of the day, though, people are losing sight of
what really matters, and that is the dog's welfare. And
it is very clear they made the right decision when
it comes to socks. Would people have preferred them to
neglect the dog. That's why I feel a bit uncomfortable,
because people are making these sweeping judgments about this family
or and acting like they did neglect this dog simply
(14:51):
for rehoming it, like they haven't just dumped it at
some pound, They've actually found a nice, safe home for
it to live in. I do think it comes down
also to transparency. So I can see why some of
her followers were annoyed because they said that they would
reach out and ask how Socks was going on, what
was happening with him, and they would be allegedly blocked.
(15:12):
So I can see how that wouldn't really sit well
with people. Again, though, we do need to remember this
is a real family who were going through real emotions
and it would have been absolutely heartbreaking for them to
make this decision. So maybe they weren't at a point
where they felt like they could publicly talk about it emotionally. Yeah,
I definitely think that if you're in a really bad
(15:33):
space and someone is continuously bringing up in your DMS,
where's the dog? Where's the dog? Like, you might think
that your tone isn't aggressive, but maybe it's coming in
that way and you don't know how many messages that
they're getting are asking the same thing. Just gonna snap
be like I can't take this anymore. Hey, my besty
girl is out of town this week. So instead of
a best of girl, dat we have.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
A Fanny Day.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Aspen Overard is still keeping her millions of followers guessing
over the status of her marriage. A month ago so
she allegedly filed for divorce from her husband, Parker Ferris.
The same day the couple announced the birth of their
third child. Very strange timing. The latest update, according to People,
is the couple have paused their divorce proceedings to focus
(16:13):
on negotiating a settlement. Now the court documents have been
cited by People and were dated April seventeen. Now neither
Aspen or Parker have actually publicly commented on the divorce,
and they've been posting as normal, which is so odd. Yeah,
it's really strange because on April the twenty second, Aspen
shared a video of her and Parker out with their
(16:35):
kids on what she called a family date to a
soda shop, and then the following day, she posted a
TikTok showing Parker filming content at a house, and she
joked that he was coming out of retirement to film
a morning routine. I mean, we have to point out
that these videos are shot weeks in advance, and it's
an interesting way to actually conduct your social media, because
(16:56):
it's almost like putting out a TV show because you
get a bit of ave you a bit of a
trailer of what we might see. Yeah, but she mean
she's still scheduling it in for it to go live
at the moment when everyone is speculating on the status
of their relationship. It's so weird because every time she
posts a video, I go check out the comments, and
she must be keeping up to date with the moderation
(17:17):
to the minute, because I never see anyone actually asking
her about She probably has the word marriage, divorce or
Parker just filtered out of her comments section. Yeah, so
it just automatically blops it. It's rather an interesting PR
strategy to investigate because normally an influencer at this point
would have come out and said something. They would have
acknowledged that something was going on, or they would have
(17:37):
denied it. However, it's been a month and they've both
been quiet and acting normal. Is this a clever PR strategy?
I think it is, and I think it's a clever
way to also share content, because if you're sharing something
that's happened months ago, you're giving yourself a bit of
distance and time to get over those things, So you're
not going to be as hurt if someone is commenting
(18:00):
on something that happened a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, a lot of people are also talking about the
fact that Aspen hasn't actually said much about her third
child other than the fact that she was born at
thirty four weeks. I don't believe we know the name yet.
I think it's actually a refreshing move that she's not
sharing too many intimate private details about her new baby,
because she did say a year ago that she didn't
(18:22):
intend on sharing much about her other children and she
wanted to take a step back and not invade their privacy.
So I think that it's good she's actually sticking to
her word and she's not using her baby to click bait.
I mean, we've already got the potential divorce to sort
of buy into and get interested in. Yeah, but do
you think the reason that she started to pull back
(18:42):
from sharing her family was because things weren't going right
with her husband. I think it's probably a bit of both.
I think with her kids getting older and maybe the
constant speculation and the constant comments and I assume trolling,
she probably thought, I don't want to be sharing every
detail about my kids, and I think when kids get
to school age as well, you have to be so
(19:04):
careful with sharing their locations. I'm so interested to see
how this unfolds and how they actually eventually come out
and acknowledge the divorce, because surely there will be a
point where they have to. I think it's quite perfect
for them because they have got weeks and weeks to
make sure that they put out the perfect divorce video,
one that hits all of the right notes, one that
(19:25):
makes both of them look good.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Forty five seconds. I talked about it, right, and in
the video, I said, didn't check the price. It was
one hundred and twenty five dollars, right, That's all I said.
Didn't say it wasn't worth that, didn't say didn't deserve
that present. The record literally just was trying to be
like relatable because sometimes, like my sister, who's like really
socially anxious, she'll like get a bag of cherries whatever,
and she'll buy it and then it'll be like thirty
bucks and she'll like fuck.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's kind of trying to be relatable, right. I'd just
like to shot my mouth on every platform because the
mean you say something like I'm just gonna start doing
dancing videos, hones you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I think janty video will be easier. Three months on
from Muggate, TikTok is Sofa Dover has attempted to set
the record straight on Lily Brown's podcast Sophie for those
who need a quick refresher what went down Well, This
controversy dominated for you pages for weeks and people were
being asked if they were Team Sophie or Team Shelby.
And things blew up when Sophia was slammed by a
(20:16):
potter called Shelby Share It and she has been dubbed
the Taylor Swift of the pottery world. She has over
two million followers on TikTok and the drama went down
when Shelby called out an old video that Sophia created
which mentioned a strawberry mug from her collection, and in
the video, Sophia said she didn't realize the mug had
two handles when she bought it. She also said she
(20:38):
didn't know the price of the mug before being presented
with the FPOs machine and was shocked to find out
the small mug cost one hundred and twenty five dollars. Now,
Sophia didn't name the business in question, but many argued
that it was obvious who she was talking about, as
that strawberry pattern is one of Shelby's signature designs. This
is where Shelby and the chat. She accused Sophia of
(21:02):
lying about her experience at her stall and then got
emotional about the hours of work that goes into each
of her pieces, and she also explained that the two
handed mug was part of a Dignity range to help
people with disabilities. Now, this does seem pretty insignificant a
couple of months or now that we're talking about it,
but this was a big deal at the time. There
were think pieces written about this. We wrote one for
(21:24):
Mamma Beha. And you may be wondering why would she
bring this up again, But it is because Lily Brown
asked her directly about it. Yeah, because Lily asked her
followers what are their burning questions for Sophia. And it
seems like everyone still wants to know about Muggate. And
it's quite funny because Sophia said that mug Gate continues
to follow her around and when she attends influencer events,
(21:47):
everyone asks her about it and she's so sick of it.
She also said that she attended a recent festival and
there were doof sticks with the infamous mug on it.
What are doof sticks? So I'm trying to pretend to
be cool, like I just knew what they were. I
had to look up what they are. So they had
DIY signs made from cardboard with a wooden pole holding
(22:07):
them up. So literally, it's so someone drew a picture
of the mug. Yeah, apparently there were several ones of
the mug around. That's pretty funny. Yeah. I also just
really enjoyed getting an insight into what actually went down
when this controversy broke, because it's always fun to feel
like you're a fly on the wall. Let's throw to
what Sophia said.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm sitting at my desk one day in the office
and I'm just checking my recent fitcheck that I posted,
and all the comments are like, kys, like you're a
horrible person. Obviously not going to say the words, but
like you're a horrible person. How dare you? Like you're
a slot like all this stuff, And I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like this is that feeling broy So I'm.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Like, I checked my mentions straight away. I've been tagged
in like a million times on this one video and
it was this lady obviously now, but I realized the
owner of for Sure saying that I lied and I
knew the price, and she talked to me about the price,
and we talked through the whole Strawby collection. Didn't happen, right.
You want me fat, you can call me ugly, you
can call me a slight. I don't really care, but
don't want me to lie, Like, don't lie, that's so annoying,
(23:10):
crossing the line, don't. I don't care if people like
your eyebrows, sock.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's pretty interesting because Sophia admitted that she does usually
run things past her mum before she responds to any drama.
Seems like a smart idea considering her mother is a lawyer.
But in this instance, she told her mum that she
didn't care what she had to say and she was
sick of people making up fake narratives about her. It
was awful to hear the comments that she received, because
you've got to remember, Sophia is only twenty years old.
(23:36):
It's a young girl who's getting this volume of hate
directed at her, and you would be so confused thinking
what have I done? What is this even about? Yeah,
I mean a big part of the debate was the
fact that this mug was a part of the inclusivity
range that the brand was selling, and Sophia and Lily
did fail to touch upon this important fat which I
(23:57):
think it would have been nice to hear Sophia actually
speak about it. Yeah, let's throw to what Lily and
Sophia said about it.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I said, I bought this mugg, and I was like,
I don't know who I'm going to give it to you, right,
Because when I left the market, I went home, pulled
the mug out of the bloody bag. I saw it
two handles, mark had two handles.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So is it a pot? What an actual mug that
you drink at it?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's actually a mug, So when you so when I
bought it, I didn't see it because they're all like
stacked on top of each other, like going, a bunch
of handles going yes.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It was like, well, maybe like the other one was
facing the back, right. I found these remarks a bit awkward.
It seemed like Lily was very clueless about the mug,
and it almost felt as though they were throwing shade
at the mug for a second time and smirking about
the fact that it had two handles, And I felt
like it wasn't a full picture of what the actual
(24:45):
controversy was about, because a lot of people were offended
that Sophia seemed to be making fun of the fact
that it had two handles when it is actually to
help people with disabilities. Yeah. I don't think it's the
best look to then reiterate the negative comments about the
cup m It doesn't really make sense. Yeah, it doesn't
really make sense. I know. Lily Brown has been criticized
for her interviewing style. There was a thread in our
(25:07):
Facebook group where people are saying, is anyone sick of
the way Lily talks over all of her guests. Yeah,
she makes all of the interviews about herself because she
does get some good guests on there. And I was
interested to hear what Sophia had to say, but Sophia
was having to fight to get a word in. Lily
kept interrupting her and bringing it back to all of
(25:27):
the controversies that she'd had, and I felt like saying,
we've already heard about this, we want to hear about Sophia. Yeah,
but I'm also not a big fan of listening to
influencers interview other influencers. It just ends up being an
echo chamber, Whereas I would like to hear some of
these people speak, but to be interviewed by someone that's
a bit more partial, Yeah, someone who will actually hold
their comments to account or question them or dig a
(25:49):
little bit deeper.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He's so handsome, gorgeous, ripped and amazing that one of
these days soon one of these girls of the gym
muscle Mummies, whatever the fuck, is going to.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Steal him from me. Only Fans. Creator Mikayla Tester is
finally over her ex Adams Paul, declaring she's in love
after hard launching her new boyfriend on TikTok. I need
to know how long ago was this breakup because I
feel like all the years have been merging together ever
since COVID. So they broke up, if you'll believe it,
(26:19):
almost two years ago. So it was June twenty twenty
two when news broke that they'd split. That blows my mind.
It freaks me out how quickly time is flying. I
suppose it makes sense that it would take two years
to get over a serious relationship like that. It is
nice to see her happy with someone else. So, Sophie,
can you tell us more about who this guy is?
So his name is Max Kraus and he is also
(26:42):
an influencer. So on both TikTok and Instagram, he has
over three hundred and ninety thousand followers. He is a
gym Shark ambassador. He's ultra ripped. He almost looks like
an anime character, which is quite funny because Mikayla loves
anime and she said that she allways falls in love
with the anime characters, so he is definitely her type.
(27:04):
Let's throw to what Mikayla said about him.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I woke up this morning and I looked at the
man that was asleep next to me, and I sighed.
I sighed because he's so handsome, gorgeous, ripped and amazing guys.
I'm in love like I'm in love for real.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It is really nice to hear Mikayla sounds so genuinely happy.
You can just hear it in her voice that she's
beaming about this guy. It is really nice and I
can see why because he is her absolute type. Tuite.
It's quite cute because they've actually known each other for
two years. They've just been following each other on socials,
but they first met up in Japan only recently and
really hit things off. I do wonder what the longevity
(27:41):
of this relationship is though, because Max is American and
they are going to face some serious issues actually spending
time together. Because Mikayla can't enter the US. She has
been detained and deported twice from America.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
The most recent time she was to ported was due
to an accidental violation of her esther and that was
because she listed her employment as self employed rather than
lifting her job as an OnlyFans creator. And she did
end up being questioned by officers and she was asked
about who she was visiting in the US, about their businesses,
their money, and if they do anything illegal yeah, And
(28:15):
she was also asked if she had collaborated with anyone
in the US before, and she confirmed that she hadn't
and then moments later, the officer pulled up a Twitter
photo of Mikayla topless with a number of girls from
the US and then accused her of lying. And this
is where things really escalated because she was then strip
searched and brought into another holding room where she was
(28:36):
kept for forty two hours. And at this point Mikayla
assumed that she was going to be deported and banned
from the US, and she'd heard stories about other sex
workers being banned for twenty years, so she was terrified.
And this is such a serious story, but I did
have to laugh because at the time, Mikayla admitted that
she started spiraling at the thought of no more American boys.
(28:56):
So she clearly has a type which is American guys.
Can you imagine flying all the way over from Australia
to the US and then just being denied entry. It
would be the absolute worst feeling. Well, particularly because it
was this time last year and she was supposed to
be going to Coachella and her pa ended up taking
her place and going along instead. Good for the pa. Yeah,
(29:18):
well that is where we're going to end things today.
But if you do want to hear more content from us,
we did drop a special subscriber episode yesterday, and there's
just been so much to talk about on the influencer front.
We decided to basically run it like our normal shows,
so we discussed Emma Clair's update on whether or not
she's coming back to social media. We also spoke about
how Angry Dad's grandchildren have gone viral after watching him
(29:41):
being pranked. We also had to speak about Alex Cooper
experiencing the wedding effect and why Steph les Smith missed
out on being introduced to Taylor Swift's Gale Gang. And
if you aren't an Outspoken Plus subscriber already and you
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was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people
(30:02):
of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past
and present,
Coming up. On today's show, Kyrie Harvey sparks debate after
revealing she rehomed her family dog, Tammy Hambro's Wholesome Holiday
with Matt Sakowski and her ex Breez hawkiins, Mikayla Testa
declares she's in love and the latest on Aspen Ovard's
alleged divorce. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose
(00:22):
of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.
I'm Kate Torba and there is currently debate raging on
TikTok over how often you wash your pajamas. There is
a section of the internet who insists that pajamas should
be washed every day, and these people believe it's unhygienic
due to sweating overnight and also wearing them for eight
hours plasses gross. On the other hand, there were people saying,
(00:45):
you know, a couple of times a week, maybe once
a week max is normal. So if I need to
ask how often do you wash your pajamas? Well, I
don't wear pajamas every night. Usually I go to bed
with a big T shirt on and just my undies.
But on the nights I do my tan I like
to marinate in it. So I wear long pajamas and
I will wash them after every use, but that is
only because there is tan all over them. So the
(01:07):
big T shirt that you wear, is that just what
you've been wearing that day, so it's fresh every day? No, Well,
I actually do get a fresh T shirt out the
drawer probably every night, but it's more because usually I've
chucked I have a shower at night at time, I've
chucked it somewhere in the bathroom. So yes, I probably
do follow this and wear something fresh every night. See
when I saw this TikTok, I actually felt quite ashamed
because I thought washing your pajamas once a week was
(01:29):
quite frequent, because I don't really know how often I
wash mine. I usually wear winter pajama pants and it
could be a month or so before I wash those.
To make you feel better, I'm going to admit this
on the podcast. I am currently wearing underpants that I
purchase from the shop and have not washed, and that
is out of pure laziness. And I think it was
last year we did a segment about whether you should
(01:51):
wash your sheets or clothes before you wear them, and
I just think that's bullshit. Because who has the time
for that. I honestly think it's phobes that are washing
them every day because I cannot imagine the laundry. So
you're having to do laundry every day, or you have
so many pairs of pajamas, like where do you store them?
Particularly in winter when it's cold and you're having to
(02:13):
hang them on the line or put them on the
clothes horse. How are these pajamas drying in time? Yeah? Well,
some of the people that admitted to washing their pajamas
every day also said they wash their towel every day.
So look, I want to be better at it because
I feel like I've got a reputations being a bit
of a slob on this podcast. I have been really
good with my pillowcases because I feel like you do
(02:34):
need to have a consistent turnover of your pillowcase because
I have been suffering with my skin a little bit,
and I think it's down to my pillowcase. Yeah. Well,
I have to admit that when I saw this TikTok,
I actually did watch my pajamas and I probably will
be doing it more frequently. So this is everything I
did today. I started my day at about four point
thirty in the morning. I wanted to get some movement
in before the kids woke up. The Internet went into
(02:56):
meltdown when fitness influenced Tammy Hembro revealed his holidaying in
Balley with her fiance Matt Sakowski and also her baby
daddy and ex Reese Hawkins. I have to admit I
had to do a double take when I saw this
vision because Reese's in the background. They're at a beach club,
They're all with the kids. It looks very happy family. Yeah,
(03:16):
it was very wholesome. Everyone was saying that they just
felt so happy seeing this vision, and I think it's
because a lot of people know that Wolf and Saskia
their kids don't often get to see Reese because he
does live overseas, so it was special to see them
having family time. Now, Reese and Tammy were together for
four years and they called off their engagement in twenty eighteen,
(03:38):
so there has been some time that's passed for them
to co parent together and become better friends and on
better terms. I think that Tammy really has to be
commended in this situation because it does seem like she
is trying really hard to have a good relationship not
only with Reese Hawkins, but her other fiance and baby daddy,
Matt Paul or ex fiance. Yeah, I mean maybe Matt
was wondering where his invitation was. Do you think he
(04:00):
would go and join it? I just think that would
generate too many headlines if all three of them were there.
But it would be very handy because clearly Tammy and
Matt Sakowski they need some time away to sort out
what has been going on. And what better to have
your other kid's dads there to babysit. It's perfect, I
mean I don't know if it's perfect. I feel like
it could also generate some problems. A lot of people
(04:22):
were commenting that Reese looked really toned and in good
nick and he did look good. I mean, some followers
were making a few unfair comparisons between the two men's
body which was rather gross. I don't think that's right
to body shame people. I mean, I think that it's
coming off the back of people being annoyed with Matt Szakowski.
But that is so wrong. What does make it a
(04:43):
little less awkward is Reese is dating someone news, so
he is seeing an only fans star called Ruby Bisaga,
So I mean, I think it would be more awkward
if he was single and on this trip and sort
of milling around. It has been interesting to watch this
trip on fold online because Matt did take Tammy out
for her thirtieth birthday the other night, and they did
(05:04):
look very loved up, maybe a bit. They had a
few wines. I think in the bathroom at this Barley restaurant,
Tammy looked like she was about to fall over. She
didn't look in a good way. It just one thing
that didn't sit well with me was this post that
Matt put up, so Tammy was lying on a sun
bed and it was literally a photo of him grabbing
her ass cheek, and it was hopefully deleted. It seemed
(05:26):
a bit possessive. It is hard to watch on and
buy into this trip being such a good time for everyone,
because it's clear that they've gone away to work on
their relationship, but to also to celebrate Tammy's birthday. I
just feel awkward. This trip does seem like a bit
of a branding exercise for the couple. It's almost like
(05:47):
they're trying to prove something to their followers. They've been
posting a lot of very loved up Instagram reels and
a lot of declarations of love for one another. It
also seems like Matt is trying to prove his dedication
to Tammy by getting a tattoo on the trip. So
if you cast your minds back at the start of
their relationship, when Tammy was on a White Fox trip,
(06:08):
she got Matt's name tattooed on her hip. Yeah, And
it was so early on in their relationship that a
lot of people actually assumed that the tattoo had been
for her former fiance Matt Paul Yeah, and that it
was just convenient that they were both called Matt. Yeah.
So Matt has got Tammy's name now on his hip
with that little love heart. That seems fair. I think
that's a right decision for him to make. They also
(06:30):
have matching love heart tattoos that they got a couple
of months ago. I wonder if Tammy was on his
back saying, look, are you gonna get my name or what?
Because there is a rumor that he has a tattoo
on his ass of his other ex's name. It is
not Kira Maguire, it is another X. It's Genevieva believe Genevieve.
Oh god, that would be a long name on your ass. Well,
maybe it just says Jen, but I mean I'm hoping
(06:51):
maybe if he's getting it removed, it only says Jen,
because that would be quite painful. I found it quite
surprising because I had a look at Tammy Hembro's social blade,
and you would think, because she is promoting her book
at the moment, and also because all of this drama
is happening, that more and more people would be following
her and wanting to buy into her life and see
what's going on. But in the past month, she has
(07:13):
actually lost twenty five thousand followers. She seems to be
hemorrhaging followers by the day. Wow, she does have seventeen millions,
so she's not really going to miss the twenty five thousand,
but that does speak volumes that people are over the drama. Yeah,
And I think that's also why she's reframing to share
a lot of content with Matt on her Instagram, because
(07:34):
it does seem to be him who is trying to
tag her in a lot of things. And when she
does a photo dumb, the first photo will be her,
but it won't be him. Yeah, whereas it's the reverse
on his Instagram. Well, we all know why that would be.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You gotta pet.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You got a responsibility. If your dog is lost, you
don't look for an hour, then call it quits.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You get your ass out there and you find that
fucking dog.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Kyrie Harvey has sparked debate after revealing she rehomed her
family dog Socks. The influencer was forced to make the
announcement after she was bombarded with messages from her followers
after the dog disappeared from her account. Before we get
into it, Kate, who is Kyrie Harvey, Well, she is
better known by her Instagram handle Miss Kyrie Loves and
(08:21):
she's a Perth based influencer who has been sharing her
very aesthetically pleasing life on social media for over a decade.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
She is a photographer, children's author and mum of three.
Alongside her children's books, she also sells affirmation cards online
and she has over two hundred and thirty five thousand
followers on her Instagram account and has clocked up forty
six thousand on her home account. Now, she has stepped
back a little bit from her main account and mainly
posts about styling and home renovation projects on her home account.
(08:51):
As for her family dog, Socks, she adopted him back
in August twenty twenty three, and he is an adorable
Aussie doodle. Oh this dog is so cute, Like if
you wanted to buy a dog that was perfect to
fit into this esthetically pleasing social media life that Kyrie
has set up. This is the dog. Yeah, and she
did announce the exciting news with her followers by sharing
(09:11):
the moment her kids first saw Socks as a puppy,
and that video has two hundred and twenty eight thousand views.
It was a very touching moment because her daughter starts crying.
The family just looked picture perfect in it. It's like
they're in a Hallmark movie essentially. Yeah, and Socks was
a very big part of her content until he suddenly
disappeared from her feet, and this did prompt followers to
(09:32):
message Kyrie asking her about the dog. Some were concerned,
but I think it's clear that others felt as though
they were entitled to know what was going on and
where he was. It did feel like Kyrie was forced
to come out and reveal the news that she had
rehome Socks, and in a lengthy statement she shared on
her Instagram story. She admitted that she felt extremely anxious, uneasy,
(09:53):
and frightened about how people were going to react to
the news. Now, it turns out that Socks is now
living with the family who adopted one of his brothers,
so it seems like a good outcome now. Before she
went into the details about why she made the decision,
she did preface that she has become more of a
private person online over the years, and she has set
boundaries around her personal life and has been showing her
(10:15):
kids less online. She did, however, say that she felt
like she owed it to her audience to explain what
had happened, because so many of them had been really
gracious and given her good advice over the time. Kyrie
then went into detail about some of the reasons why
they did rehome Socks, and the main reason appeared to
be his size. So Kyrie wrote, even after all the
(10:35):
endless research, we thought we were so prepared, yet we
still got it wrong. We never anticipated or comprehended how
big he would get. He was thirty five kilos with
super long standard poodle legs and growing. Even with private
training at our home, his size became unmanageable for me
on my own when I also have three children. She
then also detailed how the dog's safety was becoming a
(10:58):
concern as they could couldn't stop him from climbing over
their fence and getting onto the road. She continued, there
were lots of reasons for our decision, and it was
a very depressing and gut wrenching decision to make. I
understand there will be lots of you who disagree, don't understand,
or who will be disappointed. We got a dog as
a lifelong commitment. We never intended this to be the
(11:19):
decision we'd make. My parents' dog is sixteen years old,
and I envisioned that's what we'd also have. We plan
to adopt a much smaller breed that will fit into
our family's lifestyle. I hope that you respect that as
a family, we did what's right for us and also
insured Socks was safe and love too now. She did
follow up with another post on an Instagram story that read,
(11:39):
I've seen the threads, I've seen the nasty comments. I
really hope those involved in adding to the conspiracy rumors
can put it to rest. She then appeared to get
some good feedback from her followers because she shared another
post that said, thank you for your kind words. I
was expecting it to go differently, so I really appreciate
how kind my community is. Thank you for being here.
(12:00):
Do you think it's fair to expect Kyrie to share
what happened to Socks with her audience. It's a tough
one because while it may not seem fair, I think
it's just a byproduct of the parasocial relationship the audiences
have with the influences that they follow. It's a two
way relationship, and audiences expect transparency in exchange to be
(12:20):
sold to And while it may seem like her audience
are extremely entitled, I do think it's only human, particularly
because the audience has also formed a parasocial relationship with
Socks the dog, and I think the fact that Kyrie
has used Socks in brand deals also adds an interesting
element into it all. What doesn't sit well with me, though,
is this gotcha moment that some followers seem to be
(12:42):
trying to have because there is a conspiracy that the
family has already adopted a Cocker Spaniel puppy, and some
people have spotted that Kyrie is following certain breeders pages,
and people are putting two and two together. And I
think when it's got to the level where people are
abusing you for making a decision and that's right for
your family and right for the dog, the things have
(13:03):
just gone way too far and gotten so ridiculous. I mean,
we've had friends who have had to rehome their dogs,
and it's one of the toughest decisions you can make,
and sometimes it's just a lot kinder to the dog.
As you've touched on Kate, they've rehomed it with the
dog's brother, like the family of the dog, like this
dog is it's going to be with a family who
understand that breed. I think where she went wrong was
(13:26):
actually referencing that they want to adopt another dog, because
I think it was too soon to even mention another dog.
And it does appear like the family may have another dog.
Someone has spotted a dog crate in a corner of
a photo. I got to remember that there's three young
kids involved, who I assume are distraught that their dog
has been rehomed. The parents have made the decision for
(13:48):
the family because the dog is too difficult for them.
They don't understand the complexities of it, so they know
that they still want a dog, but this dog is
the wrong breed for them. I think it just gives
off the impression that the dog is an object and
can be replaced, and while I'm not suggesting that is
the case in this situation, it just doesn't come across
right online. And I think the backlash is also coming
(14:09):
from a place of envy because Kyrie presents this very
perfect family aesthetic on Instagram and the dog really played
into this. And as we know, life isn't always aesthetically pleasing,
and there's nothing less aesthetically pleasing than rehoming your dog.
And I think a lot of people are getting pleasure
from the fact that influencers may not be as perfect
(14:30):
as they portray themselves online. I do think at the
end of the day, though, people are losing sight of
what really matters, and that is the dog's welfare. And
it is very clear they made the right decision when
it comes to socks. Would people have preferred them to
neglect the dog. That's why I feel a bit uncomfortable,
because people are making these sweeping judgments about this family
or and acting like they did neglect this dog simply
(14:51):
for rehoming it, like they haven't just dumped it at
some pound, They've actually found a nice, safe home for
it to live in. I do think it comes down
also to transparency. So I can see why some of
her followers were annoyed because they said that they would
reach out and ask how Socks was going on, what
was happening with him, and they would be allegedly blocked.
(15:12):
So I can see how that wouldn't really sit well
with people. Again, though, we do need to remember this
is a real family who were going through real emotions
and it would have been absolutely heartbreaking for them to
make this decision. So maybe they weren't at a point
where they felt like they could publicly talk about it emotionally. Yeah,
I definitely think that if you're in a really bad
(15:33):
space and someone is continuously bringing up in your DMS,
where's the dog? Where's the dog? Like, you might think
that your tone isn't aggressive, but maybe it's coming in
that way and you don't know how many messages that
they're getting are asking the same thing. Just gonna snap
be like I can't take this anymore. Hey, my besty
girl is out of town this week. So instead of
a best of girl, dat we have.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
A Fanny Day.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Aspen Overard is still keeping her millions of followers guessing
over the status of her marriage. A month ago so
she allegedly filed for divorce from her husband, Parker Ferris.
The same day the couple announced the birth of their
third child. Very strange timing. The latest update, according to People,
is the couple have paused their divorce proceedings to focus
(16:13):
on negotiating a settlement. Now the court documents have been
cited by People and were dated April seventeen. Now neither
Aspen or Parker have actually publicly commented on the divorce,
and they've been posting as normal, which is so odd. Yeah,
it's really strange because on April the twenty second, Aspen
shared a video of her and Parker out with their
(16:35):
kids on what she called a family date to a
soda shop, and then the following day, she posted a
TikTok showing Parker filming content at a house, and she
joked that he was coming out of retirement to film
a morning routine. I mean, we have to point out
that these videos are shot weeks in advance, and it's
an interesting way to actually conduct your social media, because
(16:56):
it's almost like putting out a TV show because you
get a bit of ave you a bit of a
trailer of what we might see. Yeah, but she mean
she's still scheduling it in for it to go live
at the moment when everyone is speculating on the status
of their relationship. It's so weird because every time she
posts a video, I go check out the comments, and
she must be keeping up to date with the moderation
(17:17):
to the minute, because I never see anyone actually asking
her about She probably has the word marriage, divorce or
Parker just filtered out of her comments section. Yeah, so
it just automatically blops it. It's rather an interesting PR
strategy to investigate because normally an influencer at this point
would have come out and said something. They would have
acknowledged that something was going on, or they would have
(17:37):
denied it. However, it's been a month and they've both
been quiet and acting normal. Is this a clever PR strategy?
I think it is, and I think it's a clever
way to also share content, because if you're sharing something
that's happened months ago, you're giving yourself a bit of
distance and time to get over those things, So you're
not going to be as hurt if someone is commenting
(18:00):
on something that happened a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, a lot of people are also talking about the
fact that Aspen hasn't actually said much about her third
child other than the fact that she was born at
thirty four weeks. I don't believe we know the name yet.
I think it's actually a refreshing move that she's not
sharing too many intimate private details about her new baby,
because she did say a year ago that she didn't
(18:22):
intend on sharing much about her other children and she
wanted to take a step back and not invade their privacy.
So I think that it's good she's actually sticking to
her word and she's not using her baby to click bait.
I mean, we've already got the potential divorce to sort
of buy into and get interested in. Yeah, but do
you think the reason that she started to pull back
(18:42):
from sharing her family was because things weren't going right
with her husband. I think it's probably a bit of both.
I think with her kids getting older and maybe the
constant speculation and the constant comments and I assume trolling,
she probably thought, I don't want to be sharing every
detail about my kids, and I think when kids get
to school age as well, you have to be so
(19:04):
careful with sharing their locations. I'm so interested to see
how this unfolds and how they actually eventually come out
and acknowledge the divorce, because surely there will be a
point where they have to. I think it's quite perfect
for them because they have got weeks and weeks to
make sure that they put out the perfect divorce video,
one that hits all of the right notes, one that
(19:25):
makes both of them look good.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Forty five seconds. I talked about it, right, and in
the video, I said, didn't check the price. It was
one hundred and twenty five dollars, right, That's all I said.
Didn't say it wasn't worth that, didn't say didn't deserve
that present. The record literally just was trying to be
like relatable because sometimes, like my sister, who's like really
socially anxious, she'll like get a bag of cherries whatever,
and she'll buy it and then it'll be like thirty
bucks and she'll like fuck.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's kind of trying to be relatable, right. I'd just
like to shot my mouth on every platform because the
mean you say something like I'm just gonna start doing
dancing videos, hones you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I think janty video will be easier. Three months on
from Muggate, TikTok is Sofa Dover has attempted to set
the record straight on Lily Brown's podcast Sophie for those
who need a quick refresher what went down Well, This
controversy dominated for you pages for weeks and people were
being asked if they were Team Sophie or Team Shelby.
And things blew up when Sophia was slammed by a
(20:16):
potter called Shelby Share It and she has been dubbed
the Taylor Swift of the pottery world. She has over
two million followers on TikTok and the drama went down
when Shelby called out an old video that Sophia created
which mentioned a strawberry mug from her collection, and in
the video, Sophia said she didn't realize the mug had
two handles when she bought it. She also said she
(20:38):
didn't know the price of the mug before being presented
with the FPOs machine and was shocked to find out
the small mug cost one hundred and twenty five dollars. Now,
Sophia didn't name the business in question, but many argued
that it was obvious who she was talking about, as
that strawberry pattern is one of Shelby's signature designs. This
is where Shelby and the chat. She accused Sophia of
(21:02):
lying about her experience at her stall and then got
emotional about the hours of work that goes into each
of her pieces, and she also explained that the two
handed mug was part of a Dignity range to help
people with disabilities. Now, this does seem pretty insignificant a
couple of months or now that we're talking about it,
but this was a big deal at the time. There
were think pieces written about this. We wrote one for
(21:24):
Mamma Beha. And you may be wondering why would she
bring this up again, But it is because Lily Brown
asked her directly about it. Yeah, because Lily asked her
followers what are their burning questions for Sophia. And it
seems like everyone still wants to know about Muggate. And
it's quite funny because Sophia said that mug Gate continues
to follow her around and when she attends influencer events,
(21:47):
everyone asks her about it and she's so sick of it.
She also said that she attended a recent festival and
there were doof sticks with the infamous mug on it.
What are doof sticks? So I'm trying to pretend to
be cool, like I just knew what they were. I
had to look up what they are. So they had
DIY signs made from cardboard with a wooden pole holding
(22:07):
them up. So literally, it's so someone drew a picture
of the mug. Yeah, apparently there were several ones of
the mug around. That's pretty funny. Yeah. I also just
really enjoyed getting an insight into what actually went down
when this controversy broke, because it's always fun to feel
like you're a fly on the wall. Let's throw to
what Sophia said.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm sitting at my desk one day in the office
and I'm just checking my recent fitcheck that I posted,
and all the comments are like, kys, like you're a
horrible person. Obviously not going to say the words, but
like you're a horrible person. How dare you? Like you're
a slot like all this stuff, And I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like this is that feeling broy So I'm.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Like, I checked my mentions straight away. I've been tagged
in like a million times on this one video and
it was this lady obviously now, but I realized the
owner of for Sure saying that I lied and I
knew the price, and she talked to me about the price,
and we talked through the whole Strawby collection. Didn't happen, right.
You want me fat, you can call me ugly, you
can call me a slight. I don't really care, but
don't want me to lie, Like, don't lie, that's so annoying,
(23:10):
crossing the line, don't. I don't care if people like
your eyebrows, sock.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's pretty interesting because Sophia admitted that she does usually
run things past her mum before she responds to any drama.
Seems like a smart idea considering her mother is a lawyer.
But in this instance, she told her mum that she
didn't care what she had to say and she was
sick of people making up fake narratives about her. It
was awful to hear the comments that she received, because
you've got to remember, Sophia is only twenty years old.
(23:36):
It's a young girl who's getting this volume of hate
directed at her, and you would be so confused thinking
what have I done? What is this even about? Yeah,
I mean a big part of the debate was the
fact that this mug was a part of the inclusivity
range that the brand was selling, and Sophia and Lily
did fail to touch upon this important fat which I
(23:57):
think it would have been nice to hear Sophia actually
speak about it. Yeah, let's throw to what Lily and
Sophia said about it.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I said, I bought this mugg, and I was like,
I don't know who I'm going to give it to you, right,
Because when I left the market, I went home, pulled
the mug out of the bloody bag. I saw it
two handles, mark had two handles.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So is it a pot? What an actual mug that
you drink at it?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's actually a mug, So when you so when I
bought it, I didn't see it because they're all like
stacked on top of each other, like going, a bunch
of handles going yes.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It was like, well, maybe like the other one was
facing the back, right. I found these remarks a bit awkward.
It seemed like Lily was very clueless about the mug,
and it almost felt as though they were throwing shade
at the mug for a second time and smirking about
the fact that it had two handles, And I felt
like it wasn't a full picture of what the actual
(24:45):
controversy was about, because a lot of people were offended
that Sophia seemed to be making fun of the fact
that it had two handles when it is actually to
help people with disabilities. Yeah. I don't think it's the
best look to then reiterate the negative comments about the
cup m It doesn't really make sense. Yeah, it doesn't
really make sense. I know. Lily Brown has been criticized
for her interviewing style. There was a thread in our
(25:07):
Facebook group where people are saying, is anyone sick of
the way Lily talks over all of her guests. Yeah,
she makes all of the interviews about herself because she
does get some good guests on there. And I was
interested to hear what Sophia had to say, but Sophia
was having to fight to get a word in. Lily
kept interrupting her and bringing it back to all of
(25:27):
the controversies that she'd had, and I felt like saying,
we've already heard about this, we want to hear about Sophia. Yeah,
but I'm also not a big fan of listening to
influencers interview other influencers. It just ends up being an
echo chamber, Whereas I would like to hear some of
these people speak, but to be interviewed by someone that's
a bit more partial, Yeah, someone who will actually hold
their comments to account or question them or dig a
(25:49):
little bit deeper.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He's so handsome, gorgeous, ripped and amazing that one of
these days soon one of these girls of the gym
muscle Mummies, whatever the fuck, is going to.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Steal him from me. Only Fans. Creator Mikayla Tester is
finally over her ex Adams Paul, declaring she's in love
after hard launching her new boyfriend on TikTok. I need
to know how long ago was this breakup because I
feel like all the years have been merging together ever
since COVID. So they broke up, if you'll believe it,
(26:19):
almost two years ago. So it was June twenty twenty
two when news broke that they'd split. That blows my mind.
It freaks me out how quickly time is flying. I
suppose it makes sense that it would take two years
to get over a serious relationship like that. It is
nice to see her happy with someone else. So, Sophie,
can you tell us more about who this guy is?
So his name is Max Kraus and he is also
(26:42):
an influencer. So on both TikTok and Instagram, he has
over three hundred and ninety thousand followers. He is a
gym Shark ambassador. He's ultra ripped. He almost looks like
an anime character, which is quite funny because Mikayla loves
anime and she said that she allways falls in love
with the anime characters, so he is definitely her type.
(27:04):
Let's throw to what Mikayla said about him.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I woke up this morning and I looked at the
man that was asleep next to me, and I sighed.
I sighed because he's so handsome, gorgeous, ripped and amazing guys.
I'm in love like I'm in love for real.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It is really nice to hear Mikayla sounds so genuinely happy.
You can just hear it in her voice that she's
beaming about this guy. It is really nice and I
can see why because he is her absolute type. Tuite.
It's quite cute because they've actually known each other for
two years. They've just been following each other on socials,
but they first met up in Japan only recently and
really hit things off. I do wonder what the longevity
(27:41):
of this relationship is though, because Max is American and
they are going to face some serious issues actually spending
time together. Because Mikayla can't enter the US. She has
been detained and deported twice from America.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
The most recent time she was to ported was due
to an accidental violation of her esther and that was
because she listed her employment as self employed rather than
lifting her job as an OnlyFans creator. And she did
end up being questioned by officers and she was asked
about who she was visiting in the US, about their businesses,
their money, and if they do anything illegal yeah, And
(28:15):
she was also asked if she had collaborated with anyone
in the US before, and she confirmed that she hadn't
and then moments later, the officer pulled up a Twitter
photo of Mikayla topless with a number of girls from
the US and then accused her of lying. And this
is where things really escalated because she was then strip
searched and brought into another holding room where she was
(28:36):
kept for forty two hours. And at this point Mikayla
assumed that she was going to be deported and banned
from the US, and she'd heard stories about other sex
workers being banned for twenty years, so she was terrified.
And this is such a serious story, but I did
have to laugh because at the time, Mikayla admitted that
she started spiraling at the thought of no more American boys.
(28:56):
So she clearly has a type which is American guys.
Can you imagine flying all the way over from Australia
to the US and then just being denied entry. It
would be the absolute worst feeling. Well, particularly because it
was this time last year and she was supposed to
be going to Coachella and her pa ended up taking
her place and going along instead. Good for the pa. Yeah,
(29:18):
well that is where we're going to end things today.
But if you do want to hear more content from us,
we did drop a special subscriber episode yesterday, and there's
just been so much to talk about on the influencer front.
We decided to basically run it like our normal shows,
so we discussed Emma Clair's update on whether or not
she's coming back to social media. We also spoke about
how Angry Dad's grandchildren have gone viral after watching him
(29:41):
being pranked. We also had to speak about Alex Cooper
experiencing the wedding effect and why Steph les Smith missed
out on being introduced to Taylor Swift's Gale Gang. And
if you aren't an Outspoken Plus subscriber already and you
do want to sign up, all the details are in
the show notes. Thank you again for listening. This podcast
was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people
(30:02):
of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past
and present,
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