Sophie Cachia has revealed she's selling her gender neutral makeup brand AISURU. Karina Irby is kicked out of a cafe mid photoshoot. It’s full steam ahead for Tammy Hembrow and Matt Zukowski’s wedding… AND would you give up your wedding venue for David Beckham?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Kate Torba and coming up on today's show, Sophi Keasha
puts her makeup business on the market. Kaarina Irby is
kicked out of a cafe mid photo shoot, and would
you give up your wedding venue for David Beckham? But first,
Olivia Rodgers has split her audience down the middle when
(00:24):
she asks them to help her settle a debate, so
she put up a pole asking whether peanut butter is
sweet or savory. The pole proved not to help all,
with the votes being split fifty to fifty. So I
want to know what do you guys think? Is it
sweet or savory? I'd say it's savory. I always have
peanut butter on toast.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
To me that savory.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I think when you look at your toppings you kind
of group together peanut butter and veggiemite. Those two are savory,
while your jams and your honeys those are your sweet options.
It is interesting, though, because peanut butter is an ingredient
in a lot of healthy desserts and also in smoothie bowls,
which would be considered sweet, but I look at it
(01:05):
as a that kind of clash between sweet and savory.
You know, if you have a pizza with the tailer
and add some salt. I think it's one of those
flavor combinations.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, but peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Doesn't have sugar in it, so to me, it's savory.
Well yeah, I mean nuts are a savory snack. So
that's why I think as a standalone, peanut butter is
one hundred percent a savory item.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What did Olivia think?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
She didn't actually say what she thought, but I feel
like she was trying to sway her audience because she
shared a photo of squirty peanut butter on top of
a smoothie bowel. I think she's actually just only discovered
squirty peanut butter. I discovered it over a year ago,
and I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
To ye squirty veggimi as well. Does it come into squirt? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh no, I don't think squirt veggiemite would be good
because the saying squirt. I think the squirty vegimi would
be good because veggimite you have to apply like a
tiny bit, You've got to scrape off. I think the
use of control of it would not be great. Squirting
aitella'd be dangerous. That'd be dangerous in my household. For
my first Valentine's Day with my partner, he bought me
(02:08):
a five kilogram tub of Natella, and I thought it'd
be great because I always get the shit paid out
of me for eating a tella with a spoon, Like
I'd go and get a little snack of Natella.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But this thing, because of so much of it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It went moldy so quickly, and all the oil would
form like around it, and anyway, it was an absolute nightmare.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
How's this for a change of events.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We just got kicked out of a local cafe.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Influencer and bikini mogul Karina Irby was recently kicked out
of a cafe for using the venue as a backdrop
for her brand's latest active wear shoot. When I heard
Karina say that she was taking some photos for Instagram,
it gave me the impression that maybe one of her
friends was snapping some casual.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Shots of her on her phone.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
However, this was a full blown shoot for her active
wear brand, which is called Moana Smile Club, so Karina
had two other models posing alongside, and she had employed
a professional photographer for the campaign. Now. After Karina got
asked to leave the cafe, she and her team proceeded
to take photos on the street in front of some
very esthetically pleasing houses when a neighbor across the road
(03:14):
offered them to use their courtyard and pull as a set.
Karina said she was shocked by the active kindness, particularly
after they were kicked out of the cafe.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I just think it's so crazy how kindness is just
so shocking.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
People that are kind truly just shocked me. But when
people are nasty olig just want things from you and
stuff like that, you're like, you're not shocked. But then
when people are kind, you're like Now. The kind acts
continued when an ice cream van spotted the girl's shooting
and stopped to give them free ice creams, and as
a thank you and a subtle dig at the cafe,
Karina and the models posed in front of the ice
(03:51):
cream van, and Karina even gave them a shout out
to her one point one million followers. So she tagged
the ice cream van socials and wrote, we capture this
because of your kindness and generosity. Thank you for spotting
us and letting us strike a pose with your business.
The ice cream and chocolates were so delicious. They then
wrapped up the sheet with some final snaps at a
cafe who allowed them to be there with the drink
(04:13):
of the moment, which is, of course a strawberry matcher.
I don't understand the shade that Karina is throwing to
this cafe, because firstly, it's not just a casual Instagram shoot,
as you said, Sophie, this was for her active wear
campaign where she is profiting from. Surely the most respectful
thing to do is to ring the cafe beforehand and
ask if it's okay to take photos, because normally a
(04:34):
venue would charge for this type of activity. Normally you
have to rent out a studio or maybe a house.
I'm in two minds though, because I can see we
are coming from Kate, but also, on the other hand,
I think that this is a missed opportunity for promotion
because she does have one point one million followers, So
if the cafe owners had been kind and accommodating to
her like the ice cream van was, she could have
(04:54):
given them a shout out. Yeah, but just because you
have one point one million followers, doesn't mean you can
just walk into small cafe with a photographer and flash
and interrupt all of the other people dining.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
If she'd actually approach the cafe ahead of time or
the photographer had, they could have said, okay, we'll work
out a time when we're a little bit quieter so
we can accommodate what you need and charged her potentially. Also,
that is just the way that the influencer world works.
She may have a million followers, but not everyone is
going to know who she is, particularly if she hasn't
communicated what's going on. Also, I think she only gave
(05:28):
the ice cream van a shout out as a bit
of a.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Spiteful move towards the cafe.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I can see how this would be really disruptive for
the cafe because if you're already a diner there and
you see this shoot unfolding, you're probably gonna want to
wrap up your conversation with a friend and go somewhere else.
And also, if I'm walking along selecting a cafe to
go to, I would be very put off because I
wouldn't want to be in the background of this. I
just want to sit down and enjoy myself with people
(05:52):
watching though well, yeah, maybe just sit at the other
cafe across from them so you don't have to hear it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Also, what's the protocol for Caarina in terms of ordering food?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Like, was she just nursing a coffee and then thinking
that she could do this whole photo shoot or was
the food a part of.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
The photo shoot? Is this giving me flashbacks to your
baby sprinkle Cake?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Because I brought my camera along to take some photos
and it was quite a dark venue and I did
have the flash on it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I felt a little bit judged by the people sitting here.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, but there's a difference between taking some social photos
and taking some pictures for a full blown campaign where
you're selling an active wear brand.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I do like the fact that she didn't actually name.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The cafe though, because you know, we touched on last
week how it can be very detrimental for a small
business to be named in shame like this. I'm just
having secondhand embarrassment at the thought of the cafe, you know,
waitress coming up and being like, I'm sorry, you actually
can't take these photos. It does remind me of the
Calisle hotels stance on influences because they do have a
(06:47):
contract that all guests have to sign saying that they're
not allowed to use the very esthetically pleasing hotel as
a backdrop for any paid promotions or product shoots. I
think it's fair enough considering our conversation earlier in the
week about that cafe that charged a dollar to heat
up a muffin, and we did have some cafe owners
come out on social media and explain that they are
(07:07):
really feeling the pressure of the cost of living crisis
just like everyone else is. And I do think it's
unfair to expect this cafe to provide a free background
for your photo shoot. Surely Careina would have had some
money in the budget to actually pay them.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Azuru announcement. Like I said, we have taken the Instagram
and the website down.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Currently, Sophie Keisha has revealed she's selling her gender neutral
makeap brand Atzuru. Speculation was rife that the business was
under liquidation after its website and Instagram account vanished in
recent months. The brand has also been putting bundled products
on sale now. In an interview with The Herald Son,
Sophie confirmed the news saying myself and my business partners
(07:50):
simply cannot give it the love it deserves, as we
both own other companies occupy most of our time, so
we wanted to go to someone who can help it thrive.
Really did use this interview as an opportunity to try
and spook the business, saying it was a brilliant ready
to go start up with stock, direct manufacturing, relationships, operations,
(08:11):
and equipment.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
However, she said that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They'll be selective of who they sell it to as
it's one of her babies.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
She also revealed that she'll be sending the.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Brand off in style with a sale, which seems to
contradict how she's trying to say this is such an
wonderful opportunity for someone. If anything, it sounds like you're
trying to get rid of old stock because no one
wants it. And also to say that you're going to
be selective of who you sell it to, I think
you'd be lucky for anyone to buy it, so maybe
that's just an excuse if.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No one actually does end up buying it.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It is interesting that Sophie didn't refer to her business
partner by name, so Sophie originally launched a Zuru over
two years ago with controversial influencer and Slick Hair founder
Mia Plasic, and things turned south very quickly in August
twenty twenty two when it became obvious that the pair
were so. It all started when Sophie announced Azuru was
(09:03):
a one woman show after Miya Plastic received backlash for
publicly equating vaccine mandate.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Laws to abortion laws.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Now, at this point, it was believed that Miya was
no longer involved with the beauty brand, so she removed
a Zuru from her Instagram bio and also unfollowed the
Instagram account. Someone also ended up leaking a DM where
they asked the brand if Miya was still involved, and
the account replied confirming that Mia was no longer connected
to a Zuru. She did contradict these claims, though, because
(09:35):
she released a statement to The Daily Mail Australia saying
she was still a director of the company and an
equal shareholder to Sophie.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So she said, I just took a step.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Back as Slick Hair company is going through huge international
growth and I need to focus on the brand that
is growing.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
A bit of a humble brag there, but it's.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Also putting down a zuru because it's implying that that's
not grow exactly, I mean the downfall of this business.
It it doesn't really come as a big surprise because
two years ago it did launch under controversial circumstances. So
firstly there was the issue of a video of Sophie
wiping her nose whilst handling the products that did go viral.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It also ended up in a bit.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Of a stoush between ourselves and Sophie Keisha, which was
quite a memorable time for the podcast. I feel like
we've been with this business from the start, so it
is ironic that we are talking about its closure now.
It does appear that Meha must still be a part
owner of this business, because Sophie did reference that both
of the owners were focusing on their own businesses. Sophie
did want to make it quite clear also that her
(10:37):
pajama brand, Kasha, was going from strength to strength, and
it's also just celebrated its seventh birthday this weekend. However,
in bad timing, on Tuesday, she took to her Instagram
story to complain about interest rates. So she revealed that
she was on the phone to her bank and had
spoken to two people who couldn't help her. She wrote,
I'm so proud of myself being a single mamma with
(10:59):
a one salary more which, but holy fuck, these interest
rates are starting to take a toll. She then went
on to ask her followers if they had switched from
her bank and who they went to. Now this is
off the back of a couple of weeks ago, Sophie
also sharing that she had done this bulk meat order
and was cooking up a whole bunch of food to
try and minimize costs. Now, obviously there's absolutely nothing wrong
(11:21):
with that, because I think we've got this image of
influencers not having to struggle, and they don't. They're not
having to be in the real world like the rest
of us and compete with interest rates. I think what
happens is a lot of them do start these businesses
where there's products involved, and they quickly realize that a
lot of the money they make from the product then
goes back into.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Buying more of it to sell.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Because we've heard Lily Brown talk about the struggles of
her pajama business as well, having to keep up with
demand and also having to reinvest the money back into style, well,
I think it's just showing that the cost of living
is taking a toll on everyone, because we do have
to remember, as Sophie pointed out, she is a single
mother with two children, and you know, owning your own
(12:01):
business it does go on ebbs and flows. So when
Sophie purchased or built her new house, she had a
partner at the time in Maddie, so they had a
dual income that was paying that mortgage. And now that
Sophie finds herself on her own, she might be at
a different point in her business. She's finding it very difficult,
I assume being on a variable rate, and I actually
think it's I take my hat off to her for
(12:23):
actually speaking about it, because it's a situation that so
many Australians will be finding themselves in at the moment. Yeah,
I think it's very relatable that Sophie is opening up
about this on her Instagram. I do wonder if she
was a little bit annoyed that the Herald Son ran
with that story. She obviously provided a comment, but I
think that they were going to run with it anyway,
so she felt like she had to say something about
(12:43):
Azuru going on sale. It's not really the best look,
because I think she's trying really hard to promote it
as this decision that was forced upon them because her business,
Casha and also meoplastics business Slick Hair Company, is doing
so well that they just don't have time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, particularly because you're trying to sell this business.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're trying to make this business look profitable that someone
actually wants to purchase it from you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But I don't think that's actually the reality. I just't.
I don't think it's been successful from the get go.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's weird, like some wedding invitation.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh well, congratulations, thank you, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
When's the wedding June?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It appears it's all steam ahead for Tammy Hembro and
Matt Zakowski's wedding. Tammy reshared a friend's Instagram story revealing
Tammy had sent her what appeared to be a wedding invite. Now,
the envelope looked elegant with a black boat tied on
the back, and this ties into the theme that I
have been suspecting for quite a while. Now. I think
(13:38):
the whole thing will be a black and white affair.
It's very heels because when Tammy went to try on
wedding dresses. Her bride'smaids were in black, and she also
they were in little black little robes, which I think
that they'll be wearing black bride'smaid dresses, and I think
that all of the flowers be white and will be
that contrast. I was just surprised to see that the
(13:59):
wedding invite were out, particularly after all the shit that's
gone down recently.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I thought they might have put the brakes.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
On it a little bit away because they want to
prove to everyone just how solid they are. And they
have also previously said on Matt's podcast that the wedding
will be happening this year, so I mean we are
six months into this year already, so we'll be seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
This wedding very soon.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And it was now that Anna's wedding is over, I
feel like that's given them the green light to actually
start inviting people. Surely this wedding must be soon, because
normally you get your wedding invites out. I think it's
like four months before the big date. I mean, these
possibly could be a save the date if it is
a destination wedding. I said mine out six months in advance,
(14:40):
and I think it was almost too early because I
had to follow up a few people being like are
you coming? But ours was a long weekend, so I
was very paranoid that people would make plans. Yeah. Well,
on the topic of Tammy, it was really great to
see her attend the Gold Coast Sons MND Big Freeze event.
So she was a really good sport and allowed herself
to be dunked in to the ice bath and she
(15:01):
actually shared that a close friend's step dad sadly passed
away from MND. And my favorite part of this event
was seeing Tammy kick a football, so she was actually
quite good, but then she absolutely sprayed one and it
went into the crowd. Even though Tammy is really athletic,
I'm not surprised that she's not great at kicking a
football because she said that the game on the weekend
(15:22):
was the first football game she's ever been to because
the Gold Coast Sons versus Matt's team, which is Essendon,
and it was.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Really cute because Wolf looked like he had the best time.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So Tammy put up a photo and said he actually
asked me to take this photo of him, and look
how happy he is, so I think he's enjoying having
that male father figure in his life to take him.
Talking about Wolf, Tammy actually shared this TikTok video the
other day where he featured in it, and she was
saying for all of the kids and her to say
something that was true about themselves. However, she kept saying
(15:54):
things that weren't true that she knew the kids would
react to. Anyway, everyone picked up on the fact that
Wolf has a very English accent.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Have you guys noticed it?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He does?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I have noticed it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He talks very proper. Yeah, Everyone's like, where has his
accent come from? Because he doesn't sound like any member
of the family. Hasn't Everyone been saying that in the
US and in the UK that all the kids are
getting Ossie accents because of Bluey. Is it? Maybe? Isn't
Isn't it the reverse with Pepper Pig where some of
the Ossie kids are getting UK accents.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I wouldn't put him down as a Pepper Pig fan,
to be honest.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Does anyone use this kitchen? It looks like the Weben
news I was cooking here last night. Dude. It's like,
I know it's pretty clean because I clean it so well.
Would you guys give up your wedding venue for David
Beckham because this is one dilemma a couple in the
UK is facing. So David is set to celebrate his
fiftieth birthday next year and he has fallen in love
(16:45):
with iconic Scottish venue, Glen Eagles. The snag is a
couple have their dream wedding booked in for that day.
He has a thing about castles, doesn't he, Because he
and Victoria Beckham got married in a castle. Is he
trying to recreate that because that was a very iconic celebration.
Surely there's lots of castles available in the UK that
he could be using. What's so special about this one?
(17:07):
I think it has something to do with the venue
being a golfing destination. So it has won various awards
including Ultra Travel Magazine's Best Golf Resort in the World,
and David Beckham loves playing golf, It's a hobby of his. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
The rumor is that he.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Has made a huge offer to this couple. So one
of the couple's friends took to Twitter and said a
friend of a friend is getting married at Glen Eagles
next year, but David Beckham wants the date for his
fiftieth so to get the friend to move it so
he can have the hotel. Glen Eagles are paying for
their new wedding date, honeymoon and paying off the mortgage
the power of beck So a lot of people have
come to the assumption that it's not actually Glenn Eagles
(17:46):
that are paying off this couple's mortgage and for their honeymoon,
it's David Beckham. So, Sophie, if you were a year
out from your wedding and David Beckham wanted to steal
the venue from you, what would you do.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I think it would really depend on the next available date.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So if your date has been put out by a
couple of weeks, yeah, of course, of course you would
take up this opportunity. Whereas if this meant that your
wedding wasn't going to be for another year or two years,
I think that that would then become more of an issue.
Do you know what's really important to me having my
mortgage paid off and having financial freedom. So I'd be
happy to downsize my wedding in order to have my
(18:20):
mortgage and also my wedding and honeymoon paid for.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, I mean I would probably take this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But I'm saying for some people, if they've got a
special association with the venue, or if there's other reasons
for them wanting to get married straight away, it might
be an issue.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But there's so many other wedding venues around.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The place, like, yeah, but it's hard to get into them.
There's not just dates available. Look, I would make it work.
I feel sorry for the couple who were a week
before or a week after, because I wonder if they're like,
for fuck's sake, we would have given it up. I'd
be reaching out to Becks and being like, look, I
know it's not the exact date that you want, but
it's pretty close. I wonder how this couple have responded,
because he could find himself in a situation where there's
(19:02):
an absolute bride zilla who was not willing to budge
for anyone like that is a genuine possibility, And I
wonder if they have just asked them nicely, hey, do
you mind changing because we've got this big event coming
up and they are playing hard ball and they've heard
that David Beckham is involved and they're trying to take
him for all his worth.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, what else could they get out of old becks.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I think I would play Yeah, I think I'd be like,
what else?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
What else can I have?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The mortgage is pretty good. I mean if you look
at it from a pr perspective. For David Beckham, this
story could have gone one or two ways. He had
to offer them a lot in order to get this
because if he had just said, oh, look, I'll cover
the cost of your wedding and that's it, people would
have been like, how dare this big celebrity come in
and ruin this couple's wedding day. But because he's also
(19:48):
saying pay for your honeymoon, I'll pay for your mortgage.
I'll basically set you up for life, Everyone's like, wow,
look at this robin hood who's stealing the venue.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But then he's giving back to the poor.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm not sure of his brotherhood. Let's get into our
highs and lows of the week. I will kick us
off first. I'll start with my low.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Last week.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I wasn't on the podcast, and that was because I
was intending to record with you guys. But I had
a bit of a scare at my midwife appointment. So
everything is all good, but essentially I had my midwife appointment,
and every appointment they take your blood pressure, and they
flagged that mine was a little bit high. So they
checked it a couple more times and we're like, hang on, no,
(20:28):
I'm sorry, You're going to have to go up to
the observation ward. They ended up doing a urine test
and also a blood test, and they flagged with me
that the protein in my urine was really high and
that is a sign of pre clamps here. So I
was absolutely freaking out. I'm sitting on a hospital bed,
clipped up to this machine that's checking the baby's heart,
(20:50):
and I was trying not to freak out, but I
am the biggest hypochondriac.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm very health anxious.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
My partner was sitting next to me, cool as a cucumber,
and I've just convinced my that I've got preclamps here.
I've called you guys, you're all freaking out. And also,
because I at the time was thirty six and a
half weeks, I thought that they might make me deliver
the baby that day if I did have.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And in the meantime, Sophie was freaking out because, as
some of the listeners might have seen, we held a
surprise baby sprinkle for Cain.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm hoping that day.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I'm hoping that this is Kate's high that she's about
to lead into. Because I was distraught, I had everything
ready to pick up. On the Friday, I was at
the shop getting a balloon blown up for you, and
I thought, well, if the party doesn't go ahead, you'll
still need this balloon, which I literally got ship thing
because I couldn't get this Poohbair balloon anywhere. I had
to get it online and I was like, well, I
can bring it down to the hospital. We could bring
(21:43):
the cake down to the hospital as more of a
celebration of the baby being here.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So fortunately, after waiting three hours, I got the news
that in fact I did not have preclamps here, which
I am so thankful for. It turned out that the
dipstick that they put in my urine, I don't know
I had flagged it incorrectly. Anyway, So as you already
touched on my high for the week, was the surprise
baby sprinkle that you help me? Now. We did have
(22:09):
a few people asked because I posted a reel of
this event and someone's like, what is a baby sprinkle?
So it's a celebration that's not as big as a shower,
because I did have my own shower. Well, I thought
sprinkle differentiated it between the event that you already had
to say I was surprised, as a complete understatement, because
you guys got rees involved.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I think it was a week ago.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He said to me, Oh, I'd really like to take
you out Saturday night, so the least I can do
for the nine months that you've been through.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And I was like, that is so sweet, and he
really played the part.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He was putting on alf the shaves, holding my hand
in the car like being a romantic. So I get
to the restaurant and I walked up to the counter.
And it's funny because he said that the restaurant was
a surprise, and when we pulled up, it was a
restaurant soview that you really liked, called Whole And I go, oh,
this is funny. This is the place so Fhew loves.
She's going to be jealous that we're here. Anyway, I
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walked in, I completely didn't see you guys sitting in
the corner with big poob air balloon, all of these
beautiful decorations. We'd gone to the effort of even parking
our cars around the corner, because we thought if you
pull up and you see our cars out the front,
it's going to be pretty obvious what's going on. I
was just in absolute shock, like I don't think it's
sunk in the whole night, and you guys did such
(23:21):
a good job. It just looked so beautiful. The cake
was gorgeous, the cookies were gorgeous. I was like, this
is better than my own baby shower. My favorite thing
also was that Amy. Then we all went back to
her house and you'd thought of everything. You even got
me a tracksuit. So you got me men's medium pants
and this oversized hoodie and I've been living in it
ever since. I've actually been sleeping in those pants. You
(23:42):
can't pry them from my body. Good old Kama men's hoodies.
So officially, thank you so much for holding that for me.
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Speaker 2 (24:01):
This podcast was recorded
Speaker 1 (24:03):
On the traditional land of the Ghana people of the
Adelaide Plains, with pay respect to elders past and present,
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Kate Torba and coming up on today's show, Sophi Keasha
puts her makeup business on the market. Kaarina Irby is
kicked out of a cafe mid photo shoot, and would
you give up your wedding venue for David Beckham? But first,
Olivia Rodgers has split her audience down the middle when
(00:24):
she asks them to help her settle a debate, so
she put up a pole asking whether peanut butter is
sweet or savory. The pole proved not to help all,
with the votes being split fifty to fifty. So I
want to know what do you guys think? Is it
sweet or savory? I'd say it's savory. I always have
peanut butter on toast.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
To me that savory.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I think when you look at your toppings you kind
of group together peanut butter and veggiemite. Those two are savory,
while your jams and your honeys those are your sweet options.
It is interesting, though, because peanut butter is an ingredient
in a lot of healthy desserts and also in smoothie bowls,
which would be considered sweet, but I look at it
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as a that kind of clash between sweet and savory.
You know, if you have a pizza with the tailer
and add some salt. I think it's one of those
flavor combinations.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, but peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Doesn't have sugar in it, so to me, it's savory.
Well yeah, I mean nuts are a savory snack. So
that's why I think as a standalone, peanut butter is
one hundred percent a savory item.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What did Olivia think?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
She didn't actually say what she thought, but I feel
like she was trying to sway her audience because she
shared a photo of squirty peanut butter on top of
a smoothie bowel. I think she's actually just only discovered
squirty peanut butter. I discovered it over a year ago,
and I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
To ye squirty veggimi as well. Does it come into squirt? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh no, I don't think squirt veggiemite would be good
because the saying squirt. I think the squirty vegimi would
be good because veggimite you have to apply like a
tiny bit, You've got to scrape off. I think the
use of control of it would not be great. Squirting
aitella'd be dangerous. That'd be dangerous in my household. For
my first Valentine's Day with my partner, he bought me
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a five kilogram tub of Natella, and I thought it'd
be great because I always get the shit paid out
of me for eating a tella with a spoon, Like
I'd go and get a little snack of Natella.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But this thing, because of so much of it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It went moldy so quickly, and all the oil would
form like around it, and anyway, it was an absolute nightmare.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
How's this for a change of events.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We just got kicked out of a local cafe.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Influencer and bikini mogul Karina Irby was recently kicked out
of a cafe for using the venue as a backdrop
for her brand's latest active wear shoot. When I heard
Karina say that she was taking some photos for Instagram,
it gave me the impression that maybe one of her
friends was snapping some casual.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Shots of her on her phone.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
However, this was a full blown shoot for her active
wear brand, which is called Moana Smile Club, so Karina
had two other models posing alongside, and she had employed
a professional photographer for the campaign. Now. After Karina got
asked to leave the cafe, she and her team proceeded
to take photos on the street in front of some
very esthetically pleasing houses when a neighbor across the road
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offered them to use their courtyard and pull as a set.
Karina said she was shocked by the active kindness, particularly
after they were kicked out of the cafe.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I just think it's so crazy how kindness is just
so shocking.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
People that are kind truly just shocked me. But when
people are nasty olig just want things from you and
stuff like that, you're like, you're not shocked. But then
when people are kind, you're like Now. The kind acts
continued when an ice cream van spotted the girl's shooting
and stopped to give them free ice creams, and as
a thank you and a subtle dig at the cafe,
Karina and the models posed in front of the ice
(03:51):
cream van, and Karina even gave them a shout out
to her one point one million followers. So she tagged
the ice cream van socials and wrote, we capture this
because of your kindness and generosity. Thank you for spotting
us and letting us strike a pose with your business.
The ice cream and chocolates were so delicious. They then
wrapped up the sheet with some final snaps at a
cafe who allowed them to be there with the drink
(04:13):
of the moment, which is, of course a strawberry matcher.
I don't understand the shade that Karina is throwing to
this cafe, because firstly, it's not just a casual Instagram shoot,
as you said, Sophie, this was for her active wear
campaign where she is profiting from. Surely the most respectful
thing to do is to ring the cafe beforehand and
ask if it's okay to take photos, because normally a
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venue would charge for this type of activity. Normally you
have to rent out a studio or maybe a house.
I'm in two minds though, because I can see we
are coming from Kate, but also, on the other hand,
I think that this is a missed opportunity for promotion
because she does have one point one million followers, So
if the cafe owners had been kind and accommodating to
her like the ice cream van was, she could have
(04:54):
given them a shout out. Yeah, but just because you
have one point one million followers, doesn't mean you can
just walk into small cafe with a photographer and flash
and interrupt all of the other people dining.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
If she'd actually approach the cafe ahead of time or
the photographer had, they could have said, okay, we'll work
out a time when we're a little bit quieter so
we can accommodate what you need and charged her potentially. Also,
that is just the way that the influencer world works.
She may have a million followers, but not everyone is
going to know who she is, particularly if she hasn't
communicated what's going on. Also, I think she only gave
(05:28):
the ice cream van a shout out as a bit
of a.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Spiteful move towards the cafe.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I can see how this would be really disruptive for
the cafe because if you're already a diner there and
you see this shoot unfolding, you're probably gonna want to
wrap up your conversation with a friend and go somewhere else.
And also, if I'm walking along selecting a cafe to
go to, I would be very put off because I
wouldn't want to be in the background of this. I
just want to sit down and enjoy myself with people
(05:52):
watching though well, yeah, maybe just sit at the other
cafe across from them so you don't have to hear it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Also, what's the protocol for Caarina in terms of ordering food?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Like, was she just nursing a coffee and then thinking
that she could do this whole photo shoot or was
the food a part of.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
The photo shoot? Is this giving me flashbacks to your
baby sprinkle Cake?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Because I brought my camera along to take some photos
and it was quite a dark venue and I did
have the flash on it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I felt a little bit judged by the people sitting here.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, but there's a difference between taking some social photos
and taking some pictures for a full blown campaign where
you're selling an active wear brand.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I do like the fact that she didn't actually name.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The cafe though, because you know, we touched on last
week how it can be very detrimental for a small
business to be named in shame like this. I'm just
having secondhand embarrassment at the thought of the cafe, you know,
waitress coming up and being like, I'm sorry, you actually
can't take these photos. It does remind me of the
Calisle hotels stance on influences because they do have a
(06:47):
contract that all guests have to sign saying that they're
not allowed to use the very esthetically pleasing hotel as
a backdrop for any paid promotions or product shoots. I
think it's fair enough considering our conversation earlier in the
week about that cafe that charged a dollar to heat
up a muffin, and we did have some cafe owners
come out on social media and explain that they are
(07:07):
really feeling the pressure of the cost of living crisis
just like everyone else is. And I do think it's
unfair to expect this cafe to provide a free background
for your photo shoot. Surely Careina would have had some
money in the budget to actually pay them.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Azuru announcement. Like I said, we have taken the Instagram
and the website down.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Currently, Sophie Keisha has revealed she's selling her gender neutral
makeap brand Atzuru. Speculation was rife that the business was
under liquidation after its website and Instagram account vanished in
recent months. The brand has also been putting bundled products
on sale now. In an interview with The Herald Son,
Sophie confirmed the news saying myself and my business partners
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simply cannot give it the love it deserves, as we
both own other companies occupy most of our time, so
we wanted to go to someone who can help it thrive.
Really did use this interview as an opportunity to try
and spook the business, saying it was a brilliant ready
to go start up with stock, direct manufacturing, relationships, operations,
(08:11):
and equipment.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
However, she said that.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
They'll be selective of who they sell it to as
it's one of her babies.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
She also revealed that she'll be sending the.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Brand off in style with a sale, which seems to
contradict how she's trying to say this is such an
wonderful opportunity for someone. If anything, it sounds like you're
trying to get rid of old stock because no one
wants it. And also to say that you're going to
be selective of who you sell it to, I think
you'd be lucky for anyone to buy it, so maybe
that's just an excuse if.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No one actually does end up buying it.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It is interesting that Sophie didn't refer to her business
partner by name, so Sophie originally launched a Zuru over
two years ago with controversial influencer and Slick Hair founder
Mia Plasic, and things turned south very quickly in August
twenty twenty two when it became obvious that the pair
were so. It all started when Sophie announced Azuru was
(09:03):
a one woman show after Miya Plastic received backlash for
publicly equating vaccine mandate.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Laws to abortion laws.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Now, at this point, it was believed that Miya was
no longer involved with the beauty brand, so she removed
a Zuru from her Instagram bio and also unfollowed the
Instagram account. Someone also ended up leaking a DM where
they asked the brand if Miya was still involved, and
the account replied confirming that Mia was no longer connected
to a Zuru. She did contradict these claims, though, because
(09:35):
she released a statement to The Daily Mail Australia saying
she was still a director of the company and an
equal shareholder to Sophie.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So she said, I just took a step.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Back as Slick Hair company is going through huge international
growth and I need to focus on the brand that
is growing.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
A bit of a humble brag there, but it's.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Also putting down a zuru because it's implying that that's
not grow exactly, I mean the downfall of this business.
It it doesn't really come as a big surprise because
two years ago it did launch under controversial circumstances. So
firstly there was the issue of a video of Sophie
wiping her nose whilst handling the products that did go viral.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It also ended up in a bit.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Of a stoush between ourselves and Sophie Keisha, which was
quite a memorable time for the podcast. I feel like
we've been with this business from the start, so it
is ironic that we are talking about its closure now.
It does appear that Meha must still be a part
owner of this business, because Sophie did reference that both
of the owners were focusing on their own businesses. Sophie
did want to make it quite clear also that her
(10:37):
pajama brand, Kasha, was going from strength to strength, and
it's also just celebrated its seventh birthday this weekend. However,
in bad timing, on Tuesday, she took to her Instagram
story to complain about interest rates. So she revealed that
she was on the phone to her bank and had
spoken to two people who couldn't help her. She wrote,
I'm so proud of myself being a single mamma with
(10:59):
a one salary more which, but holy fuck, these interest
rates are starting to take a toll. She then went
on to ask her followers if they had switched from
her bank and who they went to. Now this is
off the back of a couple of weeks ago, Sophie
also sharing that she had done this bulk meat order
and was cooking up a whole bunch of food to
try and minimize costs. Now, obviously there's absolutely nothing wrong
(11:21):
with that, because I think we've got this image of
influencers not having to struggle, and they don't. They're not
having to be in the real world like the rest
of us and compete with interest rates. I think what
happens is a lot of them do start these businesses
where there's products involved, and they quickly realize that a
lot of the money they make from the product then
goes back into.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Buying more of it to sell.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Because we've heard Lily Brown talk about the struggles of
her pajama business as well, having to keep up with
demand and also having to reinvest the money back into style, well,
I think it's just showing that the cost of living
is taking a toll on everyone, because we do have
to remember, as Sophie pointed out, she is a single
mother with two children, and you know, owning your own
(12:01):
business it does go on ebbs and flows. So when
Sophie purchased or built her new house, she had a
partner at the time in Maddie, so they had a
dual income that was paying that mortgage. And now that
Sophie finds herself on her own, she might be at
a different point in her business. She's finding it very difficult,
I assume being on a variable rate, and I actually
think it's I take my hat off to her for
(12:23):
actually speaking about it, because it's a situation that so
many Australians will be finding themselves in at the moment. Yeah,
I think it's very relatable that Sophie is opening up
about this on her Instagram. I do wonder if she
was a little bit annoyed that the Herald Son ran
with that story. She obviously provided a comment, but I
think that they were going to run with it anyway,
so she felt like she had to say something about
(12:43):
Azuru going on sale. It's not really the best look,
because I think she's trying really hard to promote it
as this decision that was forced upon them because her business,
Casha and also meoplastics business Slick Hair Company, is doing
so well that they just don't have time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, particularly because you're trying to sell this business.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're trying to make this business look profitable that someone
actually wants to purchase it from you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But I don't think that's actually the reality. I just't.
I don't think it's been successful from the get go.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's weird, like some wedding invitation.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh well, congratulations, thank you, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
When's the wedding June?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It appears it's all steam ahead for Tammy Hembro and
Matt Zakowski's wedding. Tammy reshared a friend's Instagram story revealing
Tammy had sent her what appeared to be a wedding invite. Now,
the envelope looked elegant with a black boat tied on
the back, and this ties into the theme that I
have been suspecting for quite a while. Now. I think
(13:38):
the whole thing will be a black and white affair.
It's very heels because when Tammy went to try on
wedding dresses. Her bride'smaids were in black, and she also
they were in little black little robes, which I think
that they'll be wearing black bride'smaid dresses, and I think
that all of the flowers be white and will be
that contrast. I was just surprised to see that the
(13:59):
wedding invite were out, particularly after all the shit that's
gone down recently.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I thought they might have put the brakes.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
On it a little bit away because they want to
prove to everyone just how solid they are. And they
have also previously said on Matt's podcast that the wedding
will be happening this year, so I mean we are
six months into this year already, so we'll be seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
This wedding very soon.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And it was now that Anna's wedding is over, I
feel like that's given them the green light to actually
start inviting people. Surely this wedding must be soon, because
normally you get your wedding invites out. I think it's
like four months before the big date. I mean, these
possibly could be a save the date if it is
a destination wedding. I said mine out six months in advance,
(14:40):
and I think it was almost too early because I
had to follow up a few people being like are
you coming? But ours was a long weekend, so I
was very paranoid that people would make plans. Yeah. Well,
on the topic of Tammy, it was really great to
see her attend the Gold Coast Sons MND Big Freeze event.
So she was a really good sport and allowed herself
to be dunked in to the ice bath and she
(15:01):
actually shared that a close friend's step dad sadly passed
away from MND. And my favorite part of this event
was seeing Tammy kick a football, so she was actually
quite good, but then she absolutely sprayed one and it
went into the crowd. Even though Tammy is really athletic,
I'm not surprised that she's not great at kicking a
football because she said that the game on the weekend
(15:22):
was the first football game she's ever been to because
the Gold Coast Sons versus Matt's team, which is Essendon,
and it was.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Really cute because Wolf looked like he had the best time.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So Tammy put up a photo and said he actually
asked me to take this photo of him, and look
how happy he is, so I think he's enjoying having
that male father figure in his life to take him.
Talking about Wolf, Tammy actually shared this TikTok video the
other day where he featured in it, and she was
saying for all of the kids and her to say
something that was true about themselves. However, she kept saying
(15:54):
things that weren't true that she knew the kids would
react to. Anyway, everyone picked up on the fact that
Wolf has a very English accent.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Have you guys noticed it?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He does?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I have noticed it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
He talks very proper. Yeah, Everyone's like, where has his
accent come from? Because he doesn't sound like any member
of the family. Hasn't Everyone been saying that in the
US and in the UK that all the kids are
getting Ossie accents because of Bluey. Is it? Maybe? Isn't
Isn't it the reverse with Pepper Pig where some of
the Ossie kids are getting UK accents.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I wouldn't put him down as a Pepper Pig fan,
to be honest.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Does anyone use this kitchen? It looks like the Weben
news I was cooking here last night. Dude. It's like,
I know it's pretty clean because I clean it so well.
Would you guys give up your wedding venue for David
Beckham because this is one dilemma a couple in the
UK is facing. So David is set to celebrate his
fiftieth birthday next year and he has fallen in love
(16:45):
with iconic Scottish venue, Glen Eagles. The snag is a
couple have their dream wedding booked in for that day.
He has a thing about castles, doesn't he, Because he
and Victoria Beckham got married in a castle. Is he
trying to recreate that because that was a very iconic celebration.
Surely there's lots of castles available in the UK that
he could be using. What's so special about this one?
(17:07):
I think it has something to do with the venue
being a golfing destination. So it has won various awards
including Ultra Travel Magazine's Best Golf Resort in the World,
and David Beckham loves playing golf, It's a hobby of his. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
The rumor is that he.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Has made a huge offer to this couple. So one
of the couple's friends took to Twitter and said a
friend of a friend is getting married at Glen Eagles
next year, but David Beckham wants the date for his
fiftieth so to get the friend to move it so
he can have the hotel. Glen Eagles are paying for
their new wedding date, honeymoon and paying off the mortgage
the power of beck So a lot of people have
come to the assumption that it's not actually Glenn Eagles
(17:46):
that are paying off this couple's mortgage and for their honeymoon,
it's David Beckham. So, Sophie, if you were a year
out from your wedding and David Beckham wanted to steal
the venue from you, what would you do.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I think it would really depend on the next available date.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So if your date has been put out by a
couple of weeks, yeah, of course, of course you would
take up this opportunity. Whereas if this meant that your
wedding wasn't going to be for another year or two years,
I think that that would then become more of an issue.
Do you know what's really important to me having my
mortgage paid off and having financial freedom. So I'd be
happy to downsize my wedding in order to have my
(18:20):
mortgage and also my wedding and honeymoon paid for.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, I mean I would probably take this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But I'm saying for some people, if they've got a
special association with the venue, or if there's other reasons
for them wanting to get married straight away, it might
be an issue.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But there's so many other wedding venues around.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The place, like, yeah, but it's hard to get into them.
There's not just dates available. Look, I would make it work.
I feel sorry for the couple who were a week
before or a week after, because I wonder if they're like,
for fuck's sake, we would have given it up. I'd
be reaching out to Becks and being like, look, I
know it's not the exact date that you want, but
it's pretty close. I wonder how this couple have responded,
because he could find himself in a situation where there's
(19:02):
an absolute bride zilla who was not willing to budge
for anyone like that is a genuine possibility, And I
wonder if they have just asked them nicely, hey, do
you mind changing because we've got this big event coming
up and they are playing hard ball and they've heard
that David Beckham is involved and they're trying to take
him for all his worth.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, what else could they get out of old becks.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I think I would play Yeah, I think I'd be like,
what else?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
What else can I have?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The mortgage is pretty good. I mean if you look
at it from a pr perspective. For David Beckham, this
story could have gone one or two ways. He had
to offer them a lot in order to get this
because if he had just said, oh, look, I'll cover
the cost of your wedding and that's it, people would
have been like, how dare this big celebrity come in
and ruin this couple's wedding day. But because he's also
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saying pay for your honeymoon, I'll pay for your mortgage.
I'll basically set you up for life, Everyone's like, wow,
look at this robin hood who's stealing the venue.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But then he's giving back to the poor.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm not sure of his brotherhood. Let's get into our
highs and lows of the week. I will kick us
off first. I'll start with my low.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Last week.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I wasn't on the podcast, and that was because I
was intending to record with you guys. But I had
a bit of a scare at my midwife appointment. So
everything is all good, but essentially I had my midwife appointment,
and every appointment they take your blood pressure, and they
flagged that mine was a little bit high. So they
checked it a couple more times and we're like, hang on, no,
(20:28):
I'm sorry, You're going to have to go up to
the observation ward. They ended up doing a urine test
and also a blood test, and they flagged with me
that the protein in my urine was really high and
that is a sign of pre clamps here. So I
was absolutely freaking out. I'm sitting on a hospital bed,
clipped up to this machine that's checking the baby's heart,
(20:50):
and I was trying not to freak out, but I
am the biggest hypochondriac.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm very health anxious.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
My partner was sitting next to me, cool as a cucumber,
and I've just convinced my that I've got preclamps here.
I've called you guys, you're all freaking out. And also,
because I at the time was thirty six and a
half weeks, I thought that they might make me deliver
the baby that day if I did have.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And in the meantime, Sophie was freaking out because, as
some of the listeners might have seen, we held a
surprise baby sprinkle for Cain.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm hoping that day.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I'm hoping that this is Kate's high that she's about
to lead into. Because I was distraught, I had everything
ready to pick up. On the Friday, I was at
the shop getting a balloon blown up for you, and
I thought, well, if the party doesn't go ahead, you'll
still need this balloon, which I literally got ship thing
because I couldn't get this Poohbair balloon anywhere. I had
to get it online and I was like, well, I
can bring it down to the hospital. We could bring
(21:43):
the cake down to the hospital as more of a
celebration of the baby being here.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So fortunately, after waiting three hours, I got the news
that in fact I did not have preclamps here, which
I am so thankful for. It turned out that the
dipstick that they put in my urine, I don't know
I had flagged it incorrectly. Anyway, So as you already
touched on my high for the week, was the surprise
baby sprinkle that you help me? Now. We did have
(22:09):
a few people asked because I posted a reel of
this event and someone's like, what is a baby sprinkle?
So it's a celebration that's not as big as a shower,
because I did have my own shower. Well, I thought
sprinkle differentiated it between the event that you already had
to say I was surprised, as a complete understatement, because
you guys got rees involved.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I think it was a week ago.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
He said to me, Oh, I'd really like to take
you out Saturday night, so the least I can do
for the nine months that you've been through.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And I was like, that is so sweet, and he
really played the part.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He was putting on alf the shaves, holding my hand
in the car like being a romantic. So I get
to the restaurant and I walked up to the counter.
And it's funny because he said that the restaurant was
a surprise, and when we pulled up, it was a
restaurant soview that you really liked, called Whole And I go, oh,
this is funny. This is the place so Fhew loves.
She's going to be jealous that we're here. Anyway, I
(23:00):
walked in, I completely didn't see you guys sitting in
the corner with big poob air balloon, all of these
beautiful decorations. We'd gone to the effort of even parking
our cars around the corner, because we thought if you
pull up and you see our cars out the front,
it's going to be pretty obvious what's going on. I
was just in absolute shock, like I don't think it's
sunk in the whole night, and you guys did such
(23:21):
a good job. It just looked so beautiful. The cake
was gorgeous, the cookies were gorgeous. I was like, this
is better than my own baby shower. My favorite thing
also was that Amy. Then we all went back to
her house and you'd thought of everything. You even got
me a tracksuit. So you got me men's medium pants
and this oversized hoodie and I've been living in it
ever since. I've actually been sleeping in those pants. You
(23:42):
can't pry them from my body. Good old Kama men's hoodies.
So officially, thank you so much for holding that for me.
That is where ever going to leave things today. If
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Speaker 2 (24:01):
This podcast was recorded
Speaker 1 (24:03):
On the traditional land of the Ghana people of the
Adelaide Plains, with pay respect to elders past and present,
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