On today’s show… A war has broken out on TikTok over Easter baskets. A group of influencer mums sparked the debate after showing off the extravagant Easter baskets they created for their children.
They say ‘what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas’… but that’s not the case for a group of Brisbane Lions players thanks to an iCloud mishap.
In what can only be described as a crushing blow, Saffron Barker’s ex, Louis Reese-Zammit has officially been signed by an NFL club.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Coming up on today's show, the WhatsApp footage chat that
didn't stay In Vegas, a Chinese restaurant has been forced
to apologize to a group of food bloggers and the
TikTok war over Easter baskets. Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and we are
joining you on a Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Which feels a bit weird.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
The week has been thrown all out of whack because
of the East a long weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But we had a great time. It might seem a bit.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Unconventional, but on Easter Sunday we got all of our
in laws together from massive barbecue at a national park
and our parents and our parents our parents were that too.
It wasn't just in laws, but it was such a
fun day. Like my partner and I were saying that
it just exemplified happiness, Like we were just saying, just
to see everyone getting along so well. Yeah, and your
sister in law brought along some of her friends from
(00:52):
the UK and I was just looking at the barbecue
through their eyes and I just thought, how Australian does
this actually look like there were kangaro everywhere at the
National Park. The fact that we were putting our Easter
eggs for our annual hunt and they were just melting
because it was I think it was like thirty four
point five degrees. Yeah, it was the hottest easter on
record in like seventy three years or something. It's crazy
(01:12):
now because it has turned so wintery since it's ticked
over to April, but I'm actually loving the relief from
the whole weather.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's so nice.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It took it out of me. It was the first
time where I felt really heavily pregnant.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We went on a little walk to a waterfall which
actually turned into be a damn and you couldn't come
with us. And I think that was because you've been
so good during your pregnancy. You've just been doing everything.
You've just been working. I kind of forget that you
are pregnant. Well, it was a four k walk in
thirty four degrees and I really wanted to go, but
I was like, no, I've got to sit this one out.
We actually thought you guys had gone missing. We're like, oh,
(01:44):
wouldn't that be the case UK tourists missing in the
Land National Park. Yeah, I can just imagine the headlines
I write themselves.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How much chocolate did everyone eat over the long weekend? Oh,
I have eaten so much, which I think I mentioned
on the subs episode wasn't great because I actually did
the gluecoat tests today for my pregnancy and it didn't
stop me because on the sheet it's said to eat
your normal diet, and my normal diet at Easter time
would be a lot of Easter eggs.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I have to Outdale.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So on Friday, I was bragging about how organized I
was because I'd bought these speckled eggs that have gone
viral on TikTok and they've sold out everywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I went to use them in a recipe and I found.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That he had eaten every single one of them. I
got a very upset call from you, being like, can
you fucking believe this? Because you were meant to be
bringing a chocolate cake to my house with said speckled
eggs on top. Well, Dale didn't even realize that speckled
eggs are an Easter thing.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm like, there's literally a bunny on the front packet.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
How could you not realize their actual eggs?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like it doesn't make I think he thought they.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Were em and m's I really comment on the publicity
of about players personal lives and relationships.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They say, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, but
that is not the case for a group of Brisbane
lines players. Thanks to an iCloud mishap amy, this footy
trip is making headlines in the mainstream media and the
rumor mill is rife on TikTok. What is going on? Well,
it all started in October when the Brisbane Lions went
on their end of season trip to the US. So
(03:09):
while the team was away, they set up a WhatsApp
group to communicate, which is quite ironic because generally people
set up WhatsApp groups because it's encrypted and they think
that people can't gain access to it. In saying that, though, Sophie,
it is a common way that sports teams actually communicate
with each other. Because when I was working at the
thirty six is we only ever communicated with players on WhatsApp.
(03:30):
I know a lot of people in politics use this too,
because they think that there's less chance of their messages
being read. Well, that wasn't the case though, because unknowingly
one of the players accidentally linked his WhatsApp to his
iCloud account, which led to his partner accessing the group
chat back home. So the shit absolutely hit the fan
when the partner uncovered alleged incriminating photos and messages, and
(03:53):
as you would do, the partner then shared the content
with other players, wives and girlfriends. Now it's believed some
players ended up leaving the group trip early, and there
was even one relationship that ended because of these messes.
That would have been me if I had got my
hands and some incriminating evidence. Here you go like a
what is a carrier pigeon? Just it was the worst send,
(04:16):
sending out all of the details to everyone on me
and girls when Rodrinior just prints everything and throws it
all that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm guessing that the said.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Girlfriend that uncovered all of these messages probably was a
little bit suspicious of what was going on the fact
that she managed to find the WhatsApp account that was
linked to the eye cloud like there is a bigger story.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
There, Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Can you imagine what went down when these guys found
out that this WhatsApp group had been made public? Is
it's the worse when you do go looking for something like, y'ah,
just check it, just in case you're almost hoping to
be like, oh fuck, I feel bad for having me Look,
I want to know what was in it, because debate
is currently raging whether this story is in the public interest.
I would say yes.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, it only.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Became public on Good Friday, and that's when AFO reporter
Sam McClure broke the news on three A w which
was then later picked up by The Herald Sun.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Let's have a listen to what Sam said.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
A few headaches since the trip to America late last
year between ten players at the fair, chunk of which
were Brisbane players, ended in Las Vegas, and certain information
got home to loved ones that didn't go down too well.
It's caused rift in some relationships. It's caused other relationships
to end between players and partners, and there's even suggestions
(05:31):
put to me today that it's caused some tough conversations
to be had between teammates as to what went on.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Now, this story was deemed newsworthy by the journalists because
Brisbane has lost the first three games of the season
and there is speculation that this wattsapp incident has caused
a rift amongst the.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Playing group of course.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, and they're now saying, well, this has affected their
on field performance, so this is why the media are
reporting about it. It's interesting to think about how this
story already actually got out to the media in the
first place. Well, I've worked in sports media before, so
I would presume it was probably a leak from one
of the disgruntled girlfriends. I also think TikTok has a
big part to play in this because more recently we've
(06:14):
been saying not only AFL players, but also their partners
jumping on the platform, trying to build profiles for themselves,
and it's in a completely different way than we're used to.
Of Course, we've seen players girlfriends and wives becoming super
popular because of something that they may wear to a
club event like the Brownlow. However, this time around with TikTok,
(06:34):
they're sharing behind the scenes of their life all throughout
the season, so they're getting heaps of us. I think
there's a girlfriend on TikTok who has nearly five hundred
thousand followers just by sharing her life as an AFL
player's girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, and there's that Demon's player.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
He's always making his wife dinners.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm making dinner for my lawyer wife.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, and if you think about it, bet jadd Nadia Battel,
they have huge profiles. The profiles now eclipse their famous
AFL sporting husbands and ex husbands. However, there was a
time when people were like, I actually don't know what
Nadia Bartel's voice sounds like. However, now the player's partners
are actually gaining traction because of their personalities and what
(07:15):
they put out there on TikTok. Well, surprisingly this story
didn't break on TikTok until the three awpiece. So the
journalist Sam McClure, he actually said it was senior club
officials that let him know the details about this group trip.
That actually really surprises me because I used to deal
with a lot of dramas when I was working in
sports media and it would be my job to brief everyone,
(07:38):
you know, how to keep this story locked down? How
do we respond to it? And you would think in
a professional sporting club like the Brisbane Lions, that senior
staff members would not be leaking detrimental stories like this.
I don't actually think that some of the Brisbane Lines
officials thought that this would ever make the news because
a lot of the sports journalists, they're very much in
cahoots with the club. And if you think it, like
(08:00):
for example, Channel seven News reporters, seven owns the rights
to the football, so they never want to do anything
that brings the AFL into disrepute. And it's the same
with some of these sports journals that are connected with
the clubs. They don't want to not be given access
to players, they don't want to ruin their relationship with
the club. And so I think there were whispers going around,
but no one really had the nerve to actually say anything,
(08:23):
like people have known about this since October. Yeah, but
one of the sports journalists did pull the pin on it.
And I actually wrote my thesis about this type of
celebritization and tabletization of AFL media. And you're correct in
saying that some sports journals are in the pockets.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Of AFL clubs.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
However, it does get to a point where these stories
do need to be broken, and usually you will see
an entertainment journalists potentially breaking this story because it does
involve the personal lives of the players. That's what would
happen often when I was working in the media, if
there was a juicy story to break about the AFL
law about a certain sports sporting club. They would often
(08:58):
put the general news reporter on the story because they
don't want to sever the ties between these sports journal
Now Brisbane's chief executive Greg Swan, he has been forced
to comment on the claims, and he has told reporters
he didn't know if the WhatsApp group chat had been
accidentally uploaded to the iCloud, but he shut down suggestions
that the trip was affecting the club's on field performance,
(09:19):
labeling the claims as bullshit.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Let's throw to what he said.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
As a football club, we were initially reluctant to speak
on this because a club, we don't really comment on
the publicity of our players personal lives and relationships. But
now I feel they need to speak on behalf of
the club and in support of our players when their
partners and families were brought into this following some poor,
insensitive and factually incorrect meat and reporting.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I find it interesting that he's taking this moral high
ground and saying, oh, we don't comment on the players'
personal lives and their partners. Look at the NFL and
how they have used Taylor Swift and her connection to
the Kansas City Chiefs to actually bolster the whole league.
Look at how the Brownlow utilizes the women to portray
(10:07):
such a glamorous event.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It is a cop out. They clearly didn't want this
getting out to the media because it has affected their
player's ability. Yeah, and Brisbane, they were in the Grand
Final last year, so the fact that they have lost
three games on the trot, people are going to start
asking questions why are they performing so badly. The only
thing I don't like about this story is that a
(10:29):
lot of publications have been posting photos which have been
taken from some of the players' social media accounts on
the trip.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So they've been putting up.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Certain players photos and they have put this little disclaimer saying, oh,
it doesn't necessarily mean these players were involved, you know, in.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The WhatsApp drama.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But I'd be pretty pissed off if I was the
partner of one of the players and his photo was
being plasted everywhere and then everyone was.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Questioning my relationship.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But surely it would be easy for journalists to work
out Okay, hang on, which of the players have split
with their partners?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, people is in the photo?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
People are saying who are split on TikTok, and we're
choosing not to name any of those people.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The media has.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Chosen to leave names out of it, which I actually
think is really responsible reporting. Now, Kate, we spoke about
the relationship between sports journalists and sporting clubs and there
are fresh reports today that the Brisbane lines are considering
boycotting the Herald Sun and the radio station three AW
who broke the story. Does this surprise you? It doesn't
surprise me that an AFL club is doing this. It
(11:29):
would surprise me if it was a basketball club or
an Apple club who I've worked with before, because my
relationship with media when I was working at those clubs
is we need to suck up to everyone. We need
to make begging for Salis lives as easy as possible.
Here's the package. Let me write the story for you.
But when it comes to the AFL, that's a whole
new kettle of fish, and they do have a lot
of power. I mean in saying that though AFL isn't
(11:52):
the biggest sport in Queensland, so in that sense it
does surprise me because they're not a calling with They're
not a Carlton a lot of people don't really care
as much about the Brisbane lines, and also it creates
a vendetta with those publications and they're probably more likely
to report negatively on that club. Well, what Brisbane are
doing is they're throwing their weight around and they're basically
issuing a warning to other media outlets that we're going
(12:15):
to boycott you if you print anything we don't like.
And I think this is really dangerous. I feel for
Sambaclure because he's just doing his job and this could
ruin his career. Now he's basically being blacklisted by the
Brisbane Lions. Yeah, we're very interesting to see how this
plays out, particularly if Brisbane continue to lose, because I
don't think they're doing themselves any favors by doing this.
(12:37):
It just looks really petty and surely they should just
let this all blow over and just get on with things.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Very child guy. So I like to listen to Beyonce,
probably my favorite artists.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
In what can only be described as a crushing blow,
Saffron Baker's ex Lewis Rezamit has officially been signed by
an NFL club, now only month or two into their
well winned relationship. Lewis jetted off to the US to
take part in an intense ten week training camp in
the hopes of getting signed by an NFL team. Now
you can't even write the script for this. Over the weekend,
(13:14):
Lewis has been signed by the Kansas City Chiefs, none
other than Taylor Swift's boyfriend's team.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
God.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I saw this and my heart sunk because this guy
appears to have treated Saffron very badly. She mentioned on
her podcast this week that he gas lit her. It
appears that he allegedly cheated on her, and we were
hoping that karma was real, But unfortunately this guy has
(13:43):
been signed up to the Super Bowl winning team. Plus
he gets access to Taylor Swifts. So I would die.
Not only do you have to put up with the
knowledge that there's going to be even more women throwing
themselves at your ex because we all know how crazy
women go for NFL players, you have also missed your
opportunity of sitting in the box with Taylor Swift and
potentially becoming her best I mean, that is the worst
(14:05):
thing to come from all of it, exactly. And I
saw that he's gained about one hundred and fifty thousand
extra followers on Instagram. What's also fucked is that this
deal would have been huge for Saffron's career too, because
there's so much interest in NFL players partners, and it's
no secret that she's been wanting to crack the US
market and pursue an acting career. I just think that
(14:25):
this would have been huge for her to be seen
rubbing shoulders with celebrities, obviously like Taylor Swift, but even
just the other NFL players wives and Brittany Homes. Yeah,
you can see why she was potentially willing to accept
some of the negative behavior turn a blind eye to it. Unfortunately,
it seems like it just got all too much for
her though. Well, the UK press have been very happy
to rub salt in the wound for poor Saffron. They've
(14:46):
been running headlines like Saffron Baker won't be joining Miss
Swift as an NFL wag after all, And I just
think like, when you're going through a breakup, all you
want to do is sit in the car, pump up
your breakup songs and get that healing process starting. But
can you imagine her playing Karma. She's got the line
Karma is the guy on the Chiefs that would really
(15:07):
hit different. We do say that, Well, I mean yeah,
but I mean if you're listening to the live versions
from the concert. Well, what about his contract as well?
It's reportedly nine hundred thousand US dollars a year. This
is a huge pay rise for Lewis. He's earning approximately
five hundred thousand dollars more than he was earning when
he was playing rugby. It's also a three year contract
(15:28):
and he is just the thirty seventh player from the
Global Talent Program to sign an NFL contract. Now, out
of those thirty seven players, only six have gone on
to actually be on an active roster because there have
been a lot of questions is he actually going to
be pulling on a jump.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Or is he going to be playing this season?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So at the moment, he will be competing in the
off season squad in the hopes of earning himself a
position on the fifty three man roster for this season.
So a lot of people are saying that it's stacked
against him. It's not likely he will actually make it.
As a chie it's been very good for his profile
as well. It's so awkward because Saffron is currently holidaying
(16:05):
in the US. I wonder when this all got organized,
because suddenly she's like, oh, yeah, I'm off to LA
with my brother's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, it was believed that she was supposed to meet
up with Lewis because his ten week training camp was
coming to an end, so it would be absolutely crushing,
and fans are speculating that she is trying to catch
his attention and entice him to meet up with her
while she's over there, because she posted the location of
the hotel that she's staying at. I noticed that I
didn't think that would be very safe, but I thought
maybe there was a reason for her. Yeah. Some people
(16:34):
thought maybe she had to deal with the hotel, but
it is quite odd. She has also been miming to
break up songs with lines like I just want to rewind.
I haven't seen you in a long time. You got
me feeling so lonely. Hate the way I love you,
but you are so sweet. I wish that you were
laying in the same sheets, but lately you've been acting
like you hate me. Baby, come home. But that's interesting
(16:54):
because on her latest podcast, she was kind of giving
the impression that she was living her best life and
she's happy without him. Yeah, but reading between the lines,
it was very put on because it's clear that she
was probably forced by Spotify to acknowledge her breakup, and
she knows that not only is Lewis probably going to
listen to it, but her haters as well. So you're
(17:14):
hardly going to go on and be like, oh, I
just wanted back. Been crying my fucking eyes.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Also, it was recorded before she went to the US,
and you know, a week is a very long time
he may have reached out to We don't know what
is going on behind the scenes. She's also been sharing
videos of her getting around in a football style top,
which I just found a bit like the PEPSI don't
do it to yourself. It's so funny because before she
jetted off to the US, she actually had a run
in with her neighbor over a box of chocolates. And
(17:42):
I just cringed so hard at this because I feel
like it's something I would do. So to put it
into context, she is one of the UK's biggest influencers
and she would be absolutely inundated with PR packages, So
she ended up opening what she presumed was a PR
package that had been delivered to her house, and she
said that she doesn't really look at who sent it
because she just assumes it's a PR package because she
(18:04):
gets so many. Anyway, it ended up being a couple
of these really fancy boxes of chocolates, and she started
eating them straight away, as you would if you're going
through a breakup, and she ended up littering a whole
bunch of the chocolate wrappers in the window, like you
could see it from the outside of her house. And
then all of a sudden, she hears this banging on
(18:25):
the door, and she puts two and two together and
realizes that it wasn't her package at all. It was
actually the guy down the streets package. Oh, let's throw
to what she said.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I'm not joking. I've actually been hiding in my bedroom
for the last fifty minutes. It's even funny, like, ib
I actually did a really bad thing. Get sent these chocolates,
and they're like the fanciest chocolates I've ever seen in
my life. So bear in mind, these are my favorite.
I need you. I haven't had this since I was
a little child, and yes I did enjoy them, but
what I did was I opened them.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I left all of the rappers.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
On the side. I must have had at least ten
of these chocolates. As I was eating them. I then
thought to myself, this is really weird, Like why have
they not said like Brandy isn't even though we brand
these chocolates are as I'm as, I'm literally like shoving
them down my throat. Anyways, and then realized, oh my god,
this was me meant me.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I love the fact that she was hiding in her bedroom,
like instead of actually going down and dealing with the neighbor,
she ran upstairs to film a TikTok video. But we've
all been there, not making a TikTok video, but I've
hidden from people knocking at the door. Yeah, even when
you know that your car's out in the front and
it's so obviously like what are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They can't get in.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And it's so funny because she said he could clearly
see the chocolates from outside, just spec they have in
between us.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
When they got caught out by the neighbor's like, how
to fucking coming here?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I got to see you. The best bit is she
couldn't work out what brand of chocolates they were, so
she had to put a call out on TikTok, and
then she ended up having to order these chocolates from Amazon,
and then has filled the box of chocolates back up
and she went to drop them off at the guy's house. Well,
a lot of people were wondering whether this was some
sort of elaborate pr stunt for the brand of chocolates,
(19:57):
because this video attracted one point too million views and
one hundred and three thousand likes, and she confirmed that no,
this isn't an ad at all. It's just an unfortunate
event that has happened, and she had to prove it
by showing that her neighbor had sent her all of
these voice messages asking for the chocolate.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I love that she also wanted to share the CCTV
vision of him, because apparently he was quite irate at
the door over. From his point of view, he probably
doesn't know who Safron Barker is and he's just thought,
this neighbor has just taken my chocolates, and they seem
to be.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
In quite a tight knit community.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think that he knows exactly who she is, and
he's probably like this fucking girl who's been gifted everything.
It's eating my chocolates. Imagine seeing her TikTok whilst he's
like banking on the door. I may always wonder that, like,
do the people who the TikTok is about actually end
up seeing what? I mean? The thing is it's Easter time.
Perhaps he ordered these special chocolates because people were saying, well,
how does she not know the brand of them? They
(20:50):
were in a tin box without any sort of label.
It only had the flavor of them. So it's clear
that he wanted these as a present for Easter. But
I can see why people thought that this was an
ad because it's a really clever way to promote the chocolates.
I mean I wanted one after seeing it. Yeah, they
were very specific as well. I'm pretty sure it was
like peppermint swells, like all the whole bottle. Well, if
you want to find them, the brand is Bentley and Ackerman.
(21:14):
Before we get into the next topic, we want to
point out that we will be talking about the magic
of the Easter bunny, So if you have little ears around,
it might be best to pop your headphones in.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Hey'all, happy Easter today. I'm going to be doing a
little Easter basket hole. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
A war has broken out on TikTok over Easter baskets.
A group of influencer mums sparked the debate after showing
off their extravagant Easter baskets they created for their children. Now,
I didn't even know the Easter baskets were a thing.
We never received them as children.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I remember some wealthy friends growing up they would give
their kids money for clothes instead of Easter eggs. And
I do also remember Brandon telling me that one of
his friends, instead of having an Easter egg hunt, they
would have a money hunt. Yeah, but that's a little
bit different because I feel like Easter is turning into
Christmas because instead of a Santa Sack, people have a
basket that they've got to fill with all of these
(22:07):
impressive gifts.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
But is this just all for social media so people
can brag about what a great mom and dad they
are for giving their kids all this stuff. Oh, there's
definitely a big element there to it, and I think
people are trying to outdo each other because of social media.
I also think it's quite an American thing because we
did learn I think it was last Easter or a
couple of Easters ago that instead of putting out chocolate eggs,
Americans actually buy those plastic eggs and fill them with stuff.
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So it might be chocolate and lollies or even little
like money or treat So what are actually in these baskets? Well,
there's a full spectrums. So one US fashion blogger has
really annoyed a lot of parents out there. Her name
is Britney Xavier and she shocked her followers when she
shared that she spent five hundred and sixty nine dollars
on her seventeen year old daughter's Easter basket, so it
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was packed with really expensive beauty products. There was also
a bikini that was over one hundred dollars in there. Now,
another US content creator called Miranda Harness has also shared
her teen daughter's Easter basket, which included two Stanley cups,
a notepad, skincare, and new clothes including Lulu Lemon active wear,
and a bunch of twenty dollar notes. Can you imagine
the comparison going on at schools, because imagine if your
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parents have just given you a humble egg and then
you're hearing all of these spoilt brats have received you know,
because the Stanley Cup is like the biggest thing for
a teenager to get these.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
She got two.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Now, on a local front, a lot of people have
been talking about Australian instagramer Hannah Pillarti's surprise for her children.
So the Easter Bunny visited her house and set up
a very special picnic. It was this big table that
was presented in a very esthetically pleasing way. I think
a lot of the food was actually fake props, like
soft toy hot cross buns, and then it was also
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full of like edible treats. And then the Easter Bunny
had left these massive baskets, more cutashi in style than anything,
full of presents and an Easter egg hunt. Now, as
you said, so feel sorry for the kids that see
this online and then they're just getting the humble Cabri eggs.
It seems like this year is the most extravagant Easter
celebrations I've seen in a long time, which kind of
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conflicts with the fact that we're going through a cost
of living crisis at the moment. Well, I saw Steph
kles Smith and her husband were at it again because
they were sharing how they were putting out the Easter
Bunnies footprints, and I thought all the crap they got
for putting out Santa's footprints, You think that they wouldn't
have put that up on a roll. They knew it
was good for engagement and views. Maybe yeah, we never
had these flower bunny poor prints before. I was a
(24:31):
little bit jealous. But I think they need to sell
a better footprint stencil because I don't really look like
a rabbit's foot I was thinking about that the other day,
and when I was little and believed in the Easter Bunny,
I never actually thought it was a genuine bunny.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I always just imagine someone in like a mascot suit.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh yeah, so, but the thing is, it doesn't look
like a genuine bunnies poor prince. We used to do
the poor prints for the kids at school when we
were in year seven. We had to set up the
poor prints take.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Some magic await.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Actually that's true, but we never had it at home. Actually,
our primary school is under fire because a pastor at
the school, and it wasn't religious school, actually told kids
at the Easter Bunny isn't real. Well recently, yeah, like
last week.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Indy Clinton also got in on the action. When it
came to the bunny footprints, so she filmed her and
her husband Ben setting up their kids Easter egg hunt.
The best bit was they were chewing bits of carrot
and spitting it out. I've never I know, we usually
put carrots out for the reindeer, but it makes more
sense for the rabbit. Here's some good tips for you
next year, k Well, Molly May and Tommy Fury they
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had another idea, Kate, that you might want to take
on board. So they had a personalized letter from the
Easter Bunny to their daughter Bambi, which is very cute.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
The thing is, I think.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Their parents could get away with over indulging back when
we were kids, because there was, like say, for Christmas,
there was a big break before you returned, and by
the time you got back to school, people weren't really
talking about Christmas presents and what Santa Claus had done
for them. However, Easter it's four days, so people will
remember and they're sharing it on.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So for me, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I was speaking to some of your friends at your
baby show the other week and they were saying how
amazing the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus is for just
getting their kids to do stuff. They're like like, may, yeah,
we just use Santa all the time. Like, you know,
I got one of my friends to call up my
child and tell them off, Like I feel like it's
a real, real tool for parents. But they've got all
the apps now as well, so you can really play.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
On it like that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I can see why kids would behave if they're getting
all of these extravagant kids as well. I mean, if
I had Lululemon tights on the line, I might behave
better as an adult. So you've come to the lobster?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
No, right, right, I see, but the tornados, Yes, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
A court dispute involving three food bloggers, a Chinese restaurant,
and a lobster is back in the headlines.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's pretty sponsifre now.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Listeners will remember we have been following this court case
for quite a while now, and to refresh your memories.
On Christmas date twenty twenty, food blogger Jennifer Doe, her
partner and sisters Julie and Belinda Newan went to They're
at a Chinese restaurant called Silver Pearl Now. They ordered
a bottle of red wine and a live lobster. They
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then went on to claim that the lobster was off
and refused to pay, only leaving money for the bottle
of red wine. Now this is where things really kicked off.
So on the restaurant's official Instagram account, the owners posted
a picture of the women with the words fraudulent diners
over the top. They also alleged that the women faked
having food poisoning to get out of paying the bill,
(27:28):
called them by their names, and also slammed their actions
as dishonest, entitled, and classless. Now this actually resulted in
the food bloggers suing the restaurant for defamation. Belinda claimed
to the media that following the incident, she received aggressive
and threatening messages and also lost her job. Now, somehow
this dispute made its way to the federal court. It's
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really surprising because usually they try and deter you from
taking it this far because defamation cases are extremely time consuming.
They're also very expensive. So obviously the women had their
hearts set on clearing their.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Names yea, and no one was backing down. It seems like.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, even the judge on the case was quite surprised.
He said that the matter could be better dealt with
in a lower court by the way of mediation, and
he said that he would be astonished if the food
bloggers received any substantial amount of damages if they were
successful in their case. Now, in an interesting turn of events,
on Friday, the owners posted a lengthy apology to their
Instagram account, and they also reached out to media outlet Pedestrians,
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saying that the case had been dismissed with no damages
awarded to Jennifer Doe and her relatives. So in this apology,
the restaurant denied any suggestion that their seafood wasn't fresh,
but said, we now acknowledged that none of them ate
any of the lobster, and it was only Jennifer's partner
who did.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
We acknowledged that they paid for the wine.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
We are aware the post gained significant traction and caused Jennifer,
Belinda and Julie hurt and embarrassment. It was never our
intention for the matter to escalate to the extent it did,
and we are empathetic to them for any harm our
post may have caused. Now, the apology finished by saying,
following the dismissal of the case brought against Silver Pearl,
in federal court proceedings, Silver Pearl extended an apology to
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Jennifer Doe and her daughters. This apology, disseminated through official
social media channels, reflects Silver Pearl's commitment to empathy and
understanding without any admission.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Of wrongdoing or liability.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So reading between the lines, it appears that they have
come to an agreement where the restaurant has to make
an official apology and the case will be thrown. Now
it's clear that they've just run out of money because
this was supposed to be heard in October of this year.
Can you imagine how much the lawyers would have been
squeezing them for every penalty. It's such a shame that
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this wasn't the result of mediation and it actually got
to the federal court, because, as you said, they have
wasted so much money on this, they've also wasted a.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Lot of court time.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Like I understand that defamation is a terrible thing to
have to deal with, and maybe these women felt within
their right to do so and that their careers had
been negatively affected. But if anything, I think that it's
just made the story even bigger. Surely a good lawyer
would have told them to stop at this point though.
But to be honest, when I saw this apology, I
just thought, oh shit, well, actually these food bloggers didn't
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do anything wrong. Yeah, but then when you actually read
the apology, it kind of paints a different picture. And also,
I'm sorry, I'm sure after spending thousands and thousands of
dollars on this legal case, they're going to be like, oh,
well we say apologized, like you know, you can tell
that the apology was forced, and it's well, both camps
kind of have come out of it looking pretty bad. Yeah. Well,
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I think we're going to wrap things up there. Thank
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Speaker 2 (30:49):
We pay respect to elders past and present.
Coming up on today's show, the WhatsApp footage chat that
didn't stay In Vegas, a Chinese restaurant has been forced
to apologize to a group of food bloggers and the
TikTok war over Easter baskets. Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and we are
joining you on a Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Which feels a bit weird.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
The week has been thrown all out of whack because
of the East a long weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But we had a great time. It might seem a bit.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Unconventional, but on Easter Sunday we got all of our
in laws together from massive barbecue at a national park
and our parents and our parents our parents were that too.
It wasn't just in laws, but it was such a
fun day. Like my partner and I were saying that
it just exemplified happiness, Like we were just saying, just
to see everyone getting along so well. Yeah, and your
sister in law brought along some of her friends from
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the UK and I was just looking at the barbecue
through their eyes and I just thought, how Australian does
this actually look like there were kangaro everywhere at the
National Park. The fact that we were putting our Easter
eggs for our annual hunt and they were just melting
because it was I think it was like thirty four
point five degrees. Yeah, it was the hottest easter on
record in like seventy three years or something. It's crazy
(01:12):
now because it has turned so wintery since it's ticked
over to April, but I'm actually loving the relief from
the whole weather.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's so nice.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It took it out of me. It was the first
time where I felt really heavily pregnant.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We went on a little walk to a waterfall which
actually turned into be a damn and you couldn't come
with us. And I think that was because you've been
so good during your pregnancy. You've just been doing everything.
You've just been working. I kind of forget that you
are pregnant. Well, it was a four k walk in
thirty four degrees and I really wanted to go, but
I was like, no, I've got to sit this one out.
We actually thought you guys had gone missing. We're like, oh,
(01:44):
wouldn't that be the case UK tourists missing in the
Land National Park. Yeah, I can just imagine the headlines
I write themselves.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How much chocolate did everyone eat over the long weekend? Oh,
I have eaten so much, which I think I mentioned
on the subs episode wasn't great because I actually did
the gluecoat tests today for my pregnancy and it didn't
stop me because on the sheet it's said to eat
your normal diet, and my normal diet at Easter time
would be a lot of Easter eggs.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I have to Outdale.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So on Friday, I was bragging about how organized I
was because I'd bought these speckled eggs that have gone
viral on TikTok and they've sold out everywhere.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I went to use them in a recipe and I found.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That he had eaten every single one of them. I
got a very upset call from you, being like, can
you fucking believe this? Because you were meant to be
bringing a chocolate cake to my house with said speckled
eggs on top. Well, Dale didn't even realize that speckled
eggs are an Easter thing.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm like, there's literally a bunny on the front packet.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
How could you not realize their actual eggs?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like it doesn't make I think he thought they.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Were em and m's I really comment on the publicity
of about players personal lives and relationships.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They say, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, but
that is not the case for a group of Brisbane
lines players. Thanks to an iCloud mishap amy, this footy
trip is making headlines in the mainstream media and the
rumor mill is rife on TikTok. What is going on? Well,
it all started in October when the Brisbane Lions went
on their end of season trip to the US. So
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while the team was away, they set up a WhatsApp
group to communicate, which is quite ironic because generally people
set up WhatsApp groups because it's encrypted and they think
that people can't gain access to it. In saying that, though, Sophie,
it is a common way that sports teams actually communicate
with each other. Because when I was working at the
thirty six is we only ever communicated with players on WhatsApp.
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I know a lot of people in politics use this too,
because they think that there's less chance of their messages
being read. Well, that wasn't the case though, because unknowingly
one of the players accidentally linked his WhatsApp to his
iCloud account, which led to his partner accessing the group
chat back home. So the shit absolutely hit the fan
when the partner uncovered alleged incriminating photos and messages, and
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as you would do, the partner then shared the content
with other players, wives and girlfriends. Now it's believed some
players ended up leaving the group trip early, and there
was even one relationship that ended because of these messes.
That would have been me if I had got my
hands and some incriminating evidence. Here you go like a
what is a carrier pigeon? Just it was the worst send,
(04:16):
sending out all of the details to everyone on me
and girls when Rodrinior just prints everything and throws it
all that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm guessing that the said.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Girlfriend that uncovered all of these messages probably was a
little bit suspicious of what was going on the fact
that she managed to find the WhatsApp account that was
linked to the eye cloud like there is a bigger story.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
There, Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Can you imagine what went down when these guys found
out that this WhatsApp group had been made public? Is
it's the worse when you do go looking for something like, y'ah,
just check it, just in case you're almost hoping to
be like, oh fuck, I feel bad for having me Look,
I want to know what was in it, because debate
is currently raging whether this story is in the public interest.
I would say yes.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, it only.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Became public on Good Friday, and that's when AFO reporter
Sam McClure broke the news on three A w which
was then later picked up by The Herald Sun.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Let's have a listen to what Sam said.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
A few headaches since the trip to America late last
year between ten players at the fair, chunk of which
were Brisbane players, ended in Las Vegas, and certain information
got home to loved ones that didn't go down too well.
It's caused rift in some relationships. It's caused other relationships
to end between players and partners, and there's even suggestions
(05:31):
put to me today that it's caused some tough conversations
to be had between teammates as to what went on.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Now, this story was deemed newsworthy by the journalists because
Brisbane has lost the first three games of the season
and there is speculation that this wattsapp incident has caused
a rift amongst the.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Playing group of course.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, and they're now saying, well, this has affected their
on field performance, so this is why the media are
reporting about it. It's interesting to think about how this
story already actually got out to the media in the
first place. Well, I've worked in sports media before, so
I would presume it was probably a leak from one
of the disgruntled girlfriends. I also think TikTok has a
big part to play in this because more recently we've
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been saying not only AFL players, but also their partners
jumping on the platform, trying to build profiles for themselves,
and it's in a completely different way than we're used to.
Of Course, we've seen players girlfriends and wives becoming super
popular because of something that they may wear to a
club event like the Brownlow. However, this time around with TikTok,
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they're sharing behind the scenes of their life all throughout
the season, so they're getting heaps of us. I think
there's a girlfriend on TikTok who has nearly five hundred
thousand followers just by sharing her life as an AFL
player's girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, and there's that Demon's player.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
He's always making his wife dinners.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm making dinner for my lawyer wife.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, and if you think about it, bet jadd Nadia Battel,
they have huge profiles. The profiles now eclipse their famous
AFL sporting husbands and ex husbands. However, there was a
time when people were like, I actually don't know what
Nadia Bartel's voice sounds like. However, now the player's partners
are actually gaining traction because of their personalities and what
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they put out there on TikTok. Well, surprisingly this story
didn't break on TikTok until the three awpiece. So the
journalist Sam McClure, he actually said it was senior club
officials that let him know the details about this group trip.
That actually really surprises me because I used to deal
with a lot of dramas when I was working in
sports media and it would be my job to brief everyone,
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you know, how to keep this story locked down? How
do we respond to it? And you would think in
a professional sporting club like the Brisbane Lions, that senior
staff members would not be leaking detrimental stories like this.
I don't actually think that some of the Brisbane Lines
officials thought that this would ever make the news because
a lot of the sports journalists, they're very much in
cahoots with the club. And if you think it, like
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for example, Channel seven News reporters, seven owns the rights
to the football, so they never want to do anything
that brings the AFL into disrepute. And it's the same
with some of these sports journals that are connected with
the clubs. They don't want to not be given access
to players, they don't want to ruin their relationship with
the club. And so I think there were whispers going around,
but no one really had the nerve to actually say anything,
(08:23):
like people have known about this since October. Yeah, but
one of the sports journalists did pull the pin on it.
And I actually wrote my thesis about this type of
celebritization and tabletization of AFL media. And you're correct in
saying that some sports journals are in the pockets.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Of AFL clubs.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
However, it does get to a point where these stories
do need to be broken, and usually you will see
an entertainment journalists potentially breaking this story because it does
involve the personal lives of the players. That's what would
happen often when I was working in the media, if
there was a juicy story to break about the AFL
law about a certain sports sporting club. They would often
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put the general news reporter on the story because they
don't want to sever the ties between these sports journal
Now Brisbane's chief executive Greg Swan, he has been forced
to comment on the claims, and he has told reporters
he didn't know if the WhatsApp group chat had been
accidentally uploaded to the iCloud, but he shut down suggestions
that the trip was affecting the club's on field performance,
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labeling the claims as bullshit.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Let's throw to what he said.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
As a football club, we were initially reluctant to speak
on this because a club, we don't really comment on
the publicity of our players personal lives and relationships. But
now I feel they need to speak on behalf of
the club and in support of our players when their
partners and families were brought into this following some poor,
insensitive and factually incorrect meat and reporting.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I find it interesting that he's taking this moral high
ground and saying, oh, we don't comment on the players'
personal lives and their partners. Look at the NFL and
how they have used Taylor Swift and her connection to
the Kansas City Chiefs to actually bolster the whole league.
Look at how the Brownlow utilizes the women to portray
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such a glamorous event.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It is bullshit.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It is a cop out. They clearly didn't want this
getting out to the media because it has affected their
player's ability. Yeah, and Brisbane, they were in the Grand
Final last year, so the fact that they have lost
three games on the trot, people are going to start
asking questions why are they performing so badly. The only
thing I don't like about this story is that a
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lot of publications have been posting photos which have been
taken from some of the players' social media accounts on
the trip.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So they've been putting up.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Certain players photos and they have put this little disclaimer saying, oh,
it doesn't necessarily mean these players were involved, you know, in.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The WhatsApp drama.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But I'd be pretty pissed off if I was the
partner of one of the players and his photo was
being plasted everywhere and then everyone was.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Questioning my relationship.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But surely it would be easy for journalists to work
out Okay, hang on, which of the players have split
with their partners?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, people is in the photo?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
People are saying who are split on TikTok, and we're
choosing not to name any of those people.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The media has.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Chosen to leave names out of it, which I actually
think is really responsible reporting. Now, Kate, we spoke about
the relationship between sports journalists and sporting clubs and there
are fresh reports today that the Brisbane lines are considering
boycotting the Herald Sun and the radio station three AW
who broke the story. Does this surprise you? It doesn't
surprise me that an AFL club is doing this. It
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would surprise me if it was a basketball club or
an Apple club who I've worked with before, because my
relationship with media when I was working at those clubs
is we need to suck up to everyone. We need
to make begging for Salis lives as easy as possible.
Here's the package. Let me write the story for you.
But when it comes to the AFL, that's a whole
new kettle of fish, and they do have a lot
of power. I mean in saying that though AFL isn't
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the biggest sport in Queensland, so in that sense it
does surprise me because they're not a calling with They're
not a Carlton a lot of people don't really care
as much about the Brisbane lines, and also it creates
a vendetta with those publications and they're probably more likely
to report negatively on that club. Well, what Brisbane are
doing is they're throwing their weight around and they're basically
issuing a warning to other media outlets that we're going
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to boycott you if you print anything we don't like.
And I think this is really dangerous. I feel for
Sambaclure because he's just doing his job and this could
ruin his career. Now he's basically being blacklisted by the
Brisbane Lions. Yeah, we're very interesting to see how this
plays out, particularly if Brisbane continue to lose, because I
don't think they're doing themselves any favors by doing this.
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It just looks really petty and surely they should just
let this all blow over and just get on with things.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Very child guy. So I like to listen to Beyonce,
probably my favorite artists.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
In what can only be described as a crushing blow,
Saffron Baker's ex Lewis Rezamit has officially been signed by
an NFL club, now only month or two into their
well winned relationship. Lewis jetted off to the US to
take part in an intense ten week training camp in
the hopes of getting signed by an NFL team. Now
you can't even write the script for this. Over the weekend,
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Lewis has been signed by the Kansas City Chiefs, none
other than Taylor Swift's boyfriend's team.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
God.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I saw this and my heart sunk because this guy
appears to have treated Saffron very badly. She mentioned on
her podcast this week that he gas lit her. It
appears that he allegedly cheated on her, and we were
hoping that karma was real, But unfortunately this guy has
(13:43):
been signed up to the Super Bowl winning team. Plus
he gets access to Taylor Swifts. So I would die.
Not only do you have to put up with the
knowledge that there's going to be even more women throwing
themselves at your ex because we all know how crazy
women go for NFL players, you have also missed your
opportunity of sitting in the box with Taylor Swift and
potentially becoming her best I mean, that is the worst
(14:05):
thing to come from all of it, exactly. And I
saw that he's gained about one hundred and fifty thousand
extra followers on Instagram. What's also fucked is that this
deal would have been huge for Saffron's career too, because
there's so much interest in NFL players partners, and it's
no secret that she's been wanting to crack the US
market and pursue an acting career. I just think that
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this would have been huge for her to be seen
rubbing shoulders with celebrities, obviously like Taylor Swift, but even
just the other NFL players wives and Brittany Homes. Yeah,
you can see why she was potentially willing to accept
some of the negative behavior turn a blind eye to it. Unfortunately,
it seems like it just got all too much for
her though. Well, the UK press have been very happy
to rub salt in the wound for poor Saffron. They've
(14:46):
been running headlines like Saffron Baker won't be joining Miss
Swift as an NFL wag after all, And I just
think like, when you're going through a breakup, all you
want to do is sit in the car, pump up
your breakup songs and get that healing process starting. But
can you imagine her playing Karma. She's got the line
Karma is the guy on the Chiefs that would really
(15:07):
hit different. We do say that, Well, I mean yeah,
but I mean if you're listening to the live versions
from the concert. Well, what about his contract as well?
It's reportedly nine hundred thousand US dollars a year. This
is a huge pay rise for Lewis. He's earning approximately
five hundred thousand dollars more than he was earning when
he was playing rugby. It's also a three year contract
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and he is just the thirty seventh player from the
Global Talent Program to sign an NFL contract. Now, out
of those thirty seven players, only six have gone on
to actually be on an active roster because there have
been a lot of questions is he actually going to
be pulling on a jump.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Or is he going to be playing this season?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So at the moment, he will be competing in the
off season squad in the hopes of earning himself a
position on the fifty three man roster for this season.
So a lot of people are saying that it's stacked
against him. It's not likely he will actually make it.
As a chie it's been very good for his profile
as well. It's so awkward because Saffron is currently holidaying
(16:05):
in the US. I wonder when this all got organized,
because suddenly she's like, oh, yeah, I'm off to LA
with my brother's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, it was believed that she was supposed to meet
up with Lewis because his ten week training camp was
coming to an end, so it would be absolutely crushing,
and fans are speculating that she is trying to catch
his attention and entice him to meet up with her
while she's over there, because she posted the location of
the hotel that she's staying at. I noticed that I
didn't think that would be very safe, but I thought
maybe there was a reason for her. Yeah. Some people
(16:34):
thought maybe she had to deal with the hotel, but
it is quite odd. She has also been miming to
break up songs with lines like I just want to rewind.
I haven't seen you in a long time. You got
me feeling so lonely. Hate the way I love you,
but you are so sweet. I wish that you were
laying in the same sheets, but lately you've been acting
like you hate me. Baby, come home. But that's interesting
(16:54):
because on her latest podcast, she was kind of giving
the impression that she was living her best life and
she's happy without him. Yeah, but reading between the lines,
it was very put on because it's clear that she
was probably forced by Spotify to acknowledge her breakup, and
she knows that not only is Lewis probably going to
listen to it, but her haters as well. So you're
(17:14):
hardly going to go on and be like, oh, I
just wanted back. Been crying my fucking eyes.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Also, it was recorded before she went to the US,
and you know, a week is a very long time
he may have reached out to We don't know what
is going on behind the scenes. She's also been sharing
videos of her getting around in a football style top,
which I just found a bit like the PEPSI don't
do it to yourself. It's so funny because before she
jetted off to the US, she actually had a run
in with her neighbor over a box of chocolates. And
(17:42):
I just cringed so hard at this because I feel
like it's something I would do. So to put it
into context, she is one of the UK's biggest influencers
and she would be absolutely inundated with PR packages, So
she ended up opening what she presumed was a PR
package that had been delivered to her house, and she
said that she doesn't really look at who sent it
because she just assumes it's a PR package because she
(18:04):
gets so many. Anyway, it ended up being a couple
of these really fancy boxes of chocolates, and she started
eating them straight away, as you would if you're going
through a breakup, and she ended up littering a whole
bunch of the chocolate wrappers in the window, like you
could see it from the outside of her house. And
then all of a sudden, she hears this banging on
(18:25):
the door, and she puts two and two together and
realizes that it wasn't her package at all. It was
actually the guy down the streets package. Oh, let's throw
to what she said.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I'm not joking. I've actually been hiding in my bedroom
for the last fifty minutes. It's even funny, like, ib
I actually did a really bad thing. Get sent these chocolates,
and they're like the fanciest chocolates I've ever seen in
my life. So bear in mind, these are my favorite.
I need you. I haven't had this since I was
a little child, and yes I did enjoy them, but
what I did was I opened them.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I left all of the rappers.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
On the side. I must have had at least ten
of these chocolates. As I was eating them. I then
thought to myself, this is really weird, Like why have
they not said like Brandy isn't even though we brand
these chocolates are as I'm as, I'm literally like shoving
them down my throat. Anyways, and then realized, oh my god,
this was me meant me.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I love the fact that she was hiding in her bedroom,
like instead of actually going down and dealing with the neighbor,
she ran upstairs to film a TikTok video. But we've
all been there, not making a TikTok video, but I've
hidden from people knocking at the door. Yeah, even when
you know that your car's out in the front and
it's so obviously like what are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They can't get in.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And it's so funny because she said he could clearly
see the chocolates from outside, just spec they have in
between us.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
When they got caught out by the neighbor's like, how
to fucking coming here?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I got to see you. The best bit is she
couldn't work out what brand of chocolates they were, so
she had to put a call out on TikTok, and
then she ended up having to order these chocolates from Amazon,
and then has filled the box of chocolates back up
and she went to drop them off at the guy's house. Well,
a lot of people were wondering whether this was some
sort of elaborate pr stunt for the brand of chocolates,
(19:57):
because this video attracted one point too million views and
one hundred and three thousand likes, and she confirmed that no,
this isn't an ad at all. It's just an unfortunate
event that has happened, and she had to prove it
by showing that her neighbor had sent her all of
these voice messages asking for the chocolate.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I love that she also wanted to share the CCTV
vision of him, because apparently he was quite irate at
the door over. From his point of view, he probably
doesn't know who Safron Barker is and he's just thought,
this neighbor has just taken my chocolates, and they seem
to be.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
In quite a tight knit community.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think that he knows exactly who she is, and
he's probably like this fucking girl who's been gifted everything.
It's eating my chocolates. Imagine seeing her TikTok whilst he's
like banking on the door. I may always wonder that, like,
do the people who the TikTok is about actually end
up seeing what? I mean? The thing is it's Easter time.
Perhaps he ordered these special chocolates because people were saying, well,
how does she not know the brand of them? They
(20:50):
were in a tin box without any sort of label.
It only had the flavor of them. So it's clear
that he wanted these as a present for Easter. But
I can see why people thought that this was an
ad because it's a really clever way to promote the chocolates.
I mean I wanted one after seeing it. Yeah, they
were very specific as well. I'm pretty sure it was
like peppermint swells, like all the whole bottle. Well, if
you want to find them, the brand is Bentley and Ackerman.
(21:14):
Before we get into the next topic, we want to
point out that we will be talking about the magic
of the Easter bunny, So if you have little ears around,
it might be best to pop your headphones in.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Hey'all, happy Easter today. I'm going to be doing a
little Easter basket hole. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
A war has broken out on TikTok over Easter baskets.
A group of influencer mums sparked the debate after showing
off their extravagant Easter baskets they created for their children. Now,
I didn't even know the Easter baskets were a thing.
We never received them as children.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I remember some wealthy friends growing up they would give
their kids money for clothes instead of Easter eggs. And
I do also remember Brandon telling me that one of
his friends, instead of having an Easter egg hunt, they
would have a money hunt. Yeah, but that's a little
bit different because I feel like Easter is turning into
Christmas because instead of a Santa Sack, people have a
basket that they've got to fill with all of these
(22:07):
impressive gifts.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
But is this just all for social media so people
can brag about what a great mom and dad they
are for giving their kids all this stuff. Oh, there's
definitely a big element there to it, and I think
people are trying to outdo each other because of social media.
I also think it's quite an American thing because we
did learn I think it was last Easter or a
couple of Easters ago that instead of putting out chocolate eggs,
Americans actually buy those plastic eggs and fill them with stuff.
(22:31):
So it might be chocolate and lollies or even little
like money or treat So what are actually in these baskets? Well,
there's a full spectrums. So one US fashion blogger has
really annoyed a lot of parents out there. Her name
is Britney Xavier and she shocked her followers when she
shared that she spent five hundred and sixty nine dollars
on her seventeen year old daughter's Easter basket, so it
(22:53):
was packed with really expensive beauty products. There was also
a bikini that was over one hundred dollars in there. Now,
another US content creator called Miranda Harness has also shared
her teen daughter's Easter basket, which included two Stanley cups,
a notepad, skincare, and new clothes including Lulu Lemon active wear,
and a bunch of twenty dollar notes. Can you imagine
the comparison going on at schools, because imagine if your
(23:16):
parents have just given you a humble egg and then
you're hearing all of these spoilt brats have received you know,
because the Stanley Cup is like the biggest thing for
a teenager to get these.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
She got two.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Now, on a local front, a lot of people have
been talking about Australian instagramer Hannah Pillarti's surprise for her children.
So the Easter Bunny visited her house and set up
a very special picnic. It was this big table that
was presented in a very esthetically pleasing way. I think
a lot of the food was actually fake props, like
soft toy hot cross buns, and then it was also
(23:48):
full of like edible treats. And then the Easter Bunny
had left these massive baskets, more cutashi in style than anything,
full of presents and an Easter egg hunt. Now, as
you said, so feel sorry for the kids that see
this online and then they're just getting the humble Cabri eggs.
It seems like this year is the most extravagant Easter
celebrations I've seen in a long time, which kind of
(24:10):
conflicts with the fact that we're going through a cost
of living crisis at the moment. Well, I saw Steph
kles Smith and her husband were at it again because
they were sharing how they were putting out the Easter
Bunnies footprints, and I thought all the crap they got
for putting out Santa's footprints, You think that they wouldn't
have put that up on a roll. They knew it
was good for engagement and views. Maybe yeah, we never
had these flower bunny poor prints before. I was a
(24:31):
little bit jealous. But I think they need to sell
a better footprint stencil because I don't really look like
a rabbit's foot I was thinking about that the other day,
and when I was little and believed in the Easter Bunny,
I never actually thought it was a genuine bunny.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I always just imagine someone in like a mascot suit.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh yeah, so, but the thing is, it doesn't look
like a genuine bunnies poor prince. We used to do
the poor prints for the kids at school when we
were in year seven. We had to set up the
poor prints take.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Some magic await.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Actually that's true, but we never had it at home. Actually,
our primary school is under fire because a pastor at
the school, and it wasn't religious school, actually told kids
at the Easter Bunny isn't real. Well recently, yeah, like
last week.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Indy Clinton also got in on the action. When it
came to the bunny footprints, so she filmed her and
her husband Ben setting up their kids Easter egg hunt.
The best bit was they were chewing bits of carrot
and spitting it out. I've never I know, we usually
put carrots out for the reindeer, but it makes more
sense for the rabbit. Here's some good tips for you
next year, k Well, Molly May and Tommy Fury they
(25:29):
had another idea, Kate, that you might want to take
on board. So they had a personalized letter from the
Easter Bunny to their daughter Bambi, which is very cute.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
The thing is, I think.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Their parents could get away with over indulging back when
we were kids, because there was, like say, for Christmas,
there was a big break before you returned, and by
the time you got back to school, people weren't really
talking about Christmas presents and what Santa Claus had done
for them. However, Easter it's four days, so people will
remember and they're sharing it on.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So for me, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I was speaking to some of your friends at your
baby show the other week and they were saying how
amazing the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus is for just
getting their kids to do stuff. They're like like, may, yeah,
we just use Santa all the time. Like, you know,
I got one of my friends to call up my
child and tell them off, Like I feel like it's
a real, real tool for parents. But they've got all
the apps now as well, so you can really play.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
On it like that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I can see why kids would behave if they're getting
all of these extravagant kids as well. I mean, if
I had Lululemon tights on the line, I might behave
better as an adult. So you've come to the lobster?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
No, right, right, I see, but the tornados, Yes, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
A court dispute involving three food bloggers, a Chinese restaurant,
and a lobster is back in the headlines.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's pretty sponsifre now.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Listeners will remember we have been following this court case
for quite a while now, and to refresh your memories.
On Christmas date twenty twenty, food blogger Jennifer Doe, her
partner and sisters Julie and Belinda Newan went to They're
at a Chinese restaurant called Silver Pearl Now. They ordered
a bottle of red wine and a live lobster. They
(27:06):
then went on to claim that the lobster was off
and refused to pay, only leaving money for the bottle
of red wine. Now this is where things really kicked off.
So on the restaurant's official Instagram account, the owners posted
a picture of the women with the words fraudulent diners
over the top. They also alleged that the women faked
having food poisoning to get out of paying the bill,
(27:28):
called them by their names, and also slammed their actions
as dishonest, entitled, and classless. Now this actually resulted in
the food bloggers suing the restaurant for defamation. Belinda claimed
to the media that following the incident, she received aggressive
and threatening messages and also lost her job. Now, somehow
this dispute made its way to the federal court. It's
(27:49):
really surprising because usually they try and deter you from
taking it this far because defamation cases are extremely time consuming.
They're also very expensive. So obviously the women had their
hearts set on clearing their.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Names yea, and no one was backing down. It seems like.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, even the judge on the case was quite surprised.
He said that the matter could be better dealt with
in a lower court by the way of mediation, and
he said that he would be astonished if the food
bloggers received any substantial amount of damages if they were
successful in their case. Now, in an interesting turn of events,
on Friday, the owners posted a lengthy apology to their
Instagram account, and they also reached out to media outlet Pedestrians,
(28:28):
saying that the case had been dismissed with no damages
awarded to Jennifer Doe and her relatives. So in this apology,
the restaurant denied any suggestion that their seafood wasn't fresh,
but said, we now acknowledged that none of them ate
any of the lobster, and it was only Jennifer's partner
who did.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
We acknowledged that they paid for the wine.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
We are aware the post gained significant traction and caused Jennifer,
Belinda and Julie hurt and embarrassment. It was never our
intention for the matter to escalate to the extent it did,
and we are empathetic to them for any harm our
post may have caused. Now, the apology finished by saying,
following the dismissal of the case brought against Silver Pearl,
in federal court proceedings, Silver Pearl extended an apology to
(29:10):
Jennifer Doe and her daughters. This apology, disseminated through official
social media channels, reflects Silver Pearl's commitment to empathy and
understanding without any admission.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Of wrongdoing or liability.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So reading between the lines, it appears that they have
come to an agreement where the restaurant has to make
an official apology and the case will be thrown. Now
it's clear that they've just run out of money because
this was supposed to be heard in October of this year.
Can you imagine how much the lawyers would have been
squeezing them for every penalty. It's such a shame that
(29:42):
this wasn't the result of mediation and it actually got
to the federal court, because, as you said, they have
wasted so much money on this, they've also wasted a.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Lot of court time.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Like I understand that defamation is a terrible thing to
have to deal with, and maybe these women felt within
their right to do so and that their careers had
been negatively affected. But if anything, I think that it's
just made the story even bigger. Surely a good lawyer
would have told them to stop at this point though.
But to be honest, when I saw this apology, I
just thought, oh shit, well, actually these food bloggers didn't
(30:14):
do anything wrong. Yeah, but then when you actually read
the apology, it kind of paints a different picture. And also,
I'm sorry, I'm sure after spending thousands and thousands of
dollars on this legal case, they're going to be like, oh,
well we say apologized, like you know, you can tell
that the apology was forced, and it's well, both camps
kind of have come out of it looking pretty bad. Yeah. Well,
(30:35):
I think we're going to wrap things up there. Thank
you for listening to another episode of Outspoken. If you
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Speaker 2 (30:49):
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