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July 31, 2024 28 mins

Popular TikTok couple Isabelle Petzl and Mitch O'Leary have been forced to flee their new home, after just three nights. The couple were targeted by thieves who broke into their home whilst they were at an influencer event in Sydney. 

Sarah’s Day is livid with her husband Kurt for his night owl antics. The self-confessed early bird says she’s been led astray by his late night routine. 

Zoe Hague has hit out at media reports that she spent $200k on her wedding to long-term partner, Danny Rae. 

Skye Wheatley reveals she's the queen of compliments. 

And our new 'Agony Sister's' segment.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, the TikTok
couple forced to flee their new home, Why Sky Wheatley
can't stop complimenting strangers, and Zoe Haig's surprise wedding budget.
But first, Sarah's Day is livid with her husband Kurt

(00:27):
for his night our antics. A pregnant Sarah, who is
a self confessed early bird, says she's been led astray
by his late night routine. I let it happen again
my best friend aka night Our husband infiltrated my night
and has effectively ruined my day.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yep, room him. He has ruined my day. I know
I'm in charge of my own bedtime. Like I am
thirty one years old, I'm twenty seven weeks pregnant.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
But like I just I have fomo if he's awake
at midnight.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't want to be awake at midnight, but like
I want to chat.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sarah went on to say how terrible she was feeling
with the lack of quality sleep, and it made her
reflect on the fact that she is going to be
feeling shit like this all the time when baby number
three is here and she's doing overnight feeds. I'm always
curious to find out what different couples do when it
comes to their sleeping habits, because my partner, he tends

(01:21):
to go to bed a lot earlier than me. I'm
kurt in this situation. I am the night out, but it.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Seems to work for us.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
When I first moved in with Brandon, I thought I'd
be like you and be staying up late and he'd
be going to bed early. But we have this routine
where we go to bed at the same time. And
I think that's because we watch the same shows. We'll
give each other shows a go so you don't feel
like you have to be staying up late to get
finally a turn to watch your show.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
But it's more so.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Sometimes he starts as early as four point thirty in
the morning, or I mean most mornings he'll get to
work at about six am, so he goes to bed
super early, and I'm just I'm not about that.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, I couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think you can suddenly become a morning person. No,
I don't think so. I think you were either born
a night hour or a morning person, and it's very,
very difficult to change me.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
After realizing that everything I own is being stolen.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Popular TikTok couple Isabel Peltz and Mitch O'Leary have been
forced to flee their new home after just three nights.
The couple were targeted by thieves who broke into their
home whilst they were at an influencer event in Sydney
now Amy. For those who haven't heard of the couple,
what are they best known for? Well, they went viral
on TikTok last year after they shared a video each

(02:37):
morning of them dancing to wake up via the vamps
and this song is all about seizing the day and
being grateful for what you have. They now boast over
six hundred thousand followers on TikTok and are known for
their fun, positive content.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Isabelle is just nineteen and she works as an influencer,
so she's done collaborations with brands like Beginning Boutique and
pepper Mao Whilse. Mitch is twenty two and he owns
Popular Street where brand outdated Now. They used to live
in Queensland, but they recently moved to Adelaide. That's a
weird decision as an Adelaide person, Why when you're building

(03:13):
an influencer career would you move from Brisbane to Adelaide
Because there are not that many pr opportunities here.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
We don't have.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Big influencer events. It's a very small influencer community. Arguably
a lot of the influencers in Adelaide don't have many
genuine folds. I think Mitch is originally from Adelaide, so
that was part of their decision. So just last week,
isabel shared a series of tiktoks which she dubbed her
Moving Diaries, and she took followers along the journey of

(03:42):
moving into their new rental. And isabel not only showed
shots of the interior of the house, but also the exterior,
including vision of.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Their house number.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Now I won't say what suburb it is in Adelaide,
just in case they choose to live around there again.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
But if you know the.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Area, you would have been able to instantly identify where
it was. Now thieves took their chance when Isabelle shared
that she and Mitch were heading to Sydney for an
influencer event, and when the couple returned home, they found
their bedroom window had been smashed, and bizarrely, only Mitch's
belongings had been stolen.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Let's have a listen to what went down.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
If you did this, I don't know what Mitch did
to you, but thanks to.

Speaker 7 (04:25):
Leaving my staff for someone obviously, but anyway, enjoy everything
that you stole of mine in the house. So yeah,
Mitch pretty much doesn't really have much to his name
at the minute.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
One thing they didn't steal my humor, I didn't take
that on now.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Thieves also took Mitch's spare key to his you and
whilst they didn't steal the car, they did access it
and they took coins and the sunglasses he'd left in there.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
They did leave one pair.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
They were joking that maybe they weren't the robbers type.
This is reminding me of when Shiny Grimman got robbed
because the thieves had her car keys, so in this
instance it meant they could come back and use her
car whenever they wanted. But they also left random things
that weren't to their liking. It makes me feel like

(05:10):
these it's a gang of very young people.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I wonder if it has.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Something to do with Mitch's business success because I see
those outdated hoodies everywhere, so people would be jealous of it.
I don't think they're necessarily doing it and targeting him
because they're jealous of him. I think they just saw
an opportunity and thought, well, if he's running this successful brand,
he probably has a lot of cash.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
And it was pretty easy for.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Them because they've been brazen enough to put where they live.
They you know, you just go to real estate dot
com you can figure out where most rentals are. You
would stem from jealousy, though, people would see that a
lot of these influencers have a lot of flashy things,
and then they're jealous, so people want to break in.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
And steal it.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think that it's either the jealousy or it's maybe
the thieves got disturbed and they had just started taking
Mitch's stuff, because you can see in the vision that
there's a few socks and different items that are just
strewn all over their driveways, so it's clear the thieves
left in a hurry.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
My favorite part of this story.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Though, is the fact that Mitch and Isabelle decided to
set up their own sting, so they put up a
series of fake posts saying that they were heading back
into state following the robbery to see if the thieves
would return. It's clever, but it's also dangerous because they
were almost sitting ducks waiting for thieves thieves to return
and potentially I mean, stats show that most home invasions

(06:29):
do turn vile. Well, they shared a TikTok days later
and it showed them giggling in bed as they armed
themselves with household items to protect themselves.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
So Mitchell's weapon of choice is hammer, so we've gotten
this podcast or everything else? Mine mine is two screen
and enough that was used to cut up your state.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
And now they were clearly joking, but this gives me
so much anxiety. Because the thieves had the keys to
Mitch's car, it was likely they were going to return.
I know it's supposed to be a joke, but generally
with home invasions, the people in the home generally get
the weapons turned back on them and things escalate from there. Well,
the scariest thing is the robbers actually did return, So

(07:19):
poor Mitch and Isabel were woken in the middle of
the night by the sound of multiple people trying to
break into the house. However, once the robbers realized the
couple were inside, they fled and there hasn't been any
update yet from Essay Police about whether any arrests have
been made, did they set up any security cameras or
anything like that. Don't understand why you would antagonize someone

(07:41):
but then not have a proper plan of attack, because
in this situation, they haven't caught anyone on camera robbing
from them. They've just put themselves in a dangerous situation.
There's no police action taking place, and subsequently it sounds
like they've been forced to move out of this rental
and go and find safety else.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, we've spoken in the past about influencers like Molly
May and Chloe Zett being robbed, and I'm just so
surprised that influencers continue to share so many identifiable features
about their houses online.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's a double edged sword.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Though, because I can see from the perspective of an influencer,
it's great to take your followers on a journey with you,
and it's relatable to be moving into a new rental
into state.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
However, just think you need to be careful.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Don't ever show the outside of your house don't ever
show your house number, don't ever identify which suburb you
live in. Those things are crucial because people will take
advantage of you. Well, they clearly were foolish for doing that,
but we've got to remember they're nineteen and twenty two.
And I have to say I hadn't heard of them
until I saw this story pop up, and I actually

(08:49):
quite like them from watching their tiktoks. They seem really positive,
like they weren't winging about it. You know, sometimes when
something terrible happens and you see these big named influencers
who crack the shits.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
They were actually very cool about the whole thing. They
laughed at all.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
We often get people asking in our Facebook community who
can I follow online? Who's someone new? And it sounds
like they're quite a good couple. Yeah, one that's actually
is sharing about their life. Maybe they need to set
up a few more boundaries. But it's always fun following
people when they're starting out their career or.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
They happen quiet. They've got six hundred thousand followers on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Six hundred thousand on TikTok isn't that big? Like some
people have a million followers and they're still not making
a full time living off it.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Something non genuine about two hot girls, but already probably
get a million compliments compliment each.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Other, Sophie, I wantn't know where do you stand on
complimenting strangers in public, because Sky Wheatley and her partner
Lockey have sparked debate about the sincerity behind it. I'm
a big one for giving strangers compliments.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I am known.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
If I go order food or if I buy something
at the shop, I will often generally girls, I don't
give compliments.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I will always give a girl a compliment. Yeah, you're always.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Every time someone serves you, you will notice their nails.
You're like, oh my god, I love your nails. And
it's genuine. They always have really nice names.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Genuine.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
But I also think it's I do it because I
think it's a way to almost make someone's day. Like
I know that set might sound to be over the top,
but if I notice something, I think.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh, that's really cute, I think why not say it?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Because sometimes those comments can really bolster you up if
you're having a shit day. And again, it's also a
good way to strike up a conversation with someone and
be friendly. Yeah, well, Skywheatley is the same as you,
because she was in Kmart when a woman approached her
saying you're so pretty, and she replied you too, babe. Now,
Sky told Locky she genuinely thought the woman was attractive

(10:43):
when she walked past her, so that's why she was
so quick to repay the compliment. However, this is what
Lockie had to say.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I just think that when girls say that to other girls,
it's just like, I feel it's a bit fake.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
I don't think it's quite genuine. I think it's more
like a jealousy.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh oh my gosh. Do you know how many times
I compliment strangers. I've always been like that. I always
compliment strangers.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
I always say you have nice eyes, you have a
beautiful smile, like it's a nice thing to do.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Oh my god, this man, I just can't. I can't
quite put my finger on it.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
I really can't. But I just feel like it'd be
like it'd be like one male going up to another male.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Saying, Oh, you're really hot, bro.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
You're no. It's not completely different.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Why, because females and men are completely different. I don't
understand his point about it being a jealousy. Thing, because
quite often I find if people are jealous, it's human
nature to then not bring forth the great qualities about
that person. If anything, you're trying and drag them down.
I think I think he's getting confused, and I think

(11:53):
he thinks it's a bit like on Mean Girls, the movie,
you know, when they're like, I love your embrace and
they're like, that's the fucking ugliest bracelet I've ever seen.
I think he thinks that they're fake compliments. I don't
know people doing that in the shops though, or just
in public. Maybe it's fake compliments if it's to someone
you don't like in your life friends. I have another
take on Lockey's point about male compliments. While I agree,

(12:16):
I've never heard two men compliment each other at the
shop by telling each other they're hot. I do think
men compliment each other in other ways. So they might
compliment them about their cut or they're bid is a
big one. That's the male equivalent of clothes. They'd be like, oh,
look at it, how lush that guy's beard is, or
that's very nicely I was gonna say, manicureed I don't

(12:37):
know what the corect is, or they'll be like, oh,
you're looking jack like you've been in the gym. That's
what men will say to each other. So it's another
form of basically saying, oh, you look pretty. But it's
it's an interesting one with men too, because men will
absolutely rip into each other and say the most awful things,
and it's all under the guise of it being a
bit of a joke, whereas women would never make those comments.

(12:59):
They'd only do it behind other women's backs. Yeah, which,
I don't know what's worse. So if there's one more
part of the TikTok I have to play you that
cracked me up.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
If both girls are pretty, why do they need to
tell each other they're pretty?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Because they don't.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Though not all pretty girls know that they're pretty, lots
the pretty girls are very insecure, like.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Me, I don't think I think you were pretty.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
You wouldn't be posting yourself twenty four seven hours. I
don't don't.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
I don't think I'm ugly, but I don't look in
the mirror and go, oh, you're so dropped at gorgeous.
I look in the mirror and I pick at myself.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
And that's what most women do. So it's uplifting, it's kind,
it's nice.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I get what Sky is saying, because often you can
assume that someone is up themselves, or that they're overly
confident because they're putting themselves out there, or maybe they
wear a lot of makeup, whatever it may be. But
quite often the person is having to go to that
extent to do themselves up or put themselves out there
because they are in secure and they want the validation.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Well, I think the.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Moral of this story is continue to pay people compliments.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
So you won't let me pay for anything for the
weddings I've gotten to.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
That was another question, who's paid for the wedding?

Speaker 4 (14:11):
I've got the DJ?

Speaker 7 (14:13):
All right, look, you lot can go on Google at
Google my wage.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
Yeah no, but if if I'm still on army wage,
we'd have just scheduled everything down.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
No, no, yeah, we would have done it.

Speaker 7 (14:30):
It just means that like all the money I've saved
up would well would be gone on a wedding, which
is what everyone does. Yeah, whereas we're in a nice
fortunate team position where I'm still able to keep them
most of my savings.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
We've kind of done it off, like percentages of earnings.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
That's I think that's probably what most people do.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, like we're not going to go fifty to fifty
on something.

Speaker 7 (14:53):
No, I've got no problem or qualms with the fact
that you know, you earn more money than I do
and we've got to combine.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
And is such a taboo, But it doesn't need to be.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Ye, Like, it doesn't to hide what I am because
you could google it.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Listen to an episode of the Yeah very true.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
I was listening to an episode of the Girl's Barroom
and they were talking loads about money, and one of
the questions was like when you go on dates, how
like how do you split a date? And like the
main thing that people came back with was you sort
of do it on percentage of earnings. Yeah, so like
if someone earns more, that'll get maybe two to like
one dinner dates.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yeah, I've just seen a good question about divorced parents
and stuff and feel intention.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
UK influencer Zoe Haig has broken her YouTube silence after
her much anticipated wedding to partner Danny ray So. Zoe
is the sister of Molly May Haig, and she explained
that her three week radio silence from YouTube was due
to a family member ruining her SD card. So this
SD card contained vision of the lead up to her wedding, which.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
She was going to share.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
What an absolute nightmare, like, not only if you're a YouTuber,
but just in general, if you'd captured these important memories
and the lead up to your wedding and they'd been
destroyed by someone. And this SD card was destroyed in
the most bizarre circumstances because Zoe and her family were
out on a boat and one of the family members
had a drone and they were like, oh, I'd love

(16:19):
to fly the drone, but I don't have an SD card.
And Zoe had a camera with her, so she's like, oh, here,
you can borrow my SD card, and she made a
joke about but do not lose this.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Because it's really really important.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
So as they're going along in the boat, they start
up the drone. The drone falls into the water and
it destroys the SD card.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Oh my god, what an absolute nightmare.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I always get nervous when people fly drones, and it
is for this reason because you can never trust them,
like they get out of your eyesight, they can fall
into water.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Like it's just there's.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
A lot going on when you fly drone. I've flown
them before and it is quite scary. Now a few
people have messaged us saying please talk about Zoe's wedding,
and we are talking about it now because Zoe and
Danny have finally released a few more details about this wedding.
This wedding was getting a lot of press in the
UK when it happened a few weeks ago. It was

(17:12):
all over my TikTok feed and I was dying to
find out more details about the wedding. I found it
quite surprising all of the media coverage because Zoe is
known as being the more down to earth sister, so
she used to work in the army, and it's only
been over the last year or so that she's focused
on her social media career.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
So it was a bit of a.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Shock to a lot of her followers when everyone saw
the paparazzi rock up. I wasn't surprised because my understanding
is they weren't really there for Zoe. They were there
for Molly because Molly will sneeze and the media will
report on it like they are obsessed with her.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
She is the UK's biggest influence.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, you're definitely right, but I think it has also
grown Zoe and Danny's profile. And there are reports that
searchers for Lakes District's weddings, which they had, has skyrocketed
after their big day, with searches up by one thousand, three.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Hundred and fourteen percent.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
As Australians, we're so lucky having our weddings outside because
most of the time people will have an outdoor ceremony
and will be beautiful weather. However, I was talking to
an English couple who flew over for my sister in
law's wedding and it was held in the botanical gardens,
and they were just saying, like, we cannot get over
this wedding, Like no one has their weddings outside.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
We're all stuck in these you know.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Awful little chapels or buildings or whatever weather and everything,
because the weather's always so shit. But but for Zoe,
they had their wedding outside in this beautiful guarding setting,
as you say, at the Lake Districts. Luckily they missed
a sprinkle of rain, like it was perfect weather for them,
and her partner looked like Prince Charming because he was
dressed in some sort of soldier outfit. They would look

(18:49):
like he was part of the royal family. Yeah, because
he's still serving in the army. But apparently they've got
a lot of people saying, why is he dressed up
like Prince Charles?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Is he pretending to be royal? I liked it. I
was like, God, I wish Brandon could have worn something
like that. There's something about.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
That uniform, there definitely is. And there has been a
lot of interest into how much they spent on their wedding,
because The Sun in the UK reported that they dropped
two hundred thousand pounds on the day, but Zoe and
Danny were quick to host down these reports, so they
told their YouTube followers that their wedding actually costs between
forty to fifty thousand pounds. Zoe also revealed, and this

(19:26):
really surprised me, that her dress cost two thousand pounds,
so that was her ceremony dress, and she also had
an eight hundred dollars reception dress. Let's throw to what
she said about it.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
But I got it from a shop near us called
the Nutsford Wedding Gallery. It was a designer called Mullinova,
and it was sorry eight hundred pounds, which is quite
expensive for a second dress. But I thought, because my
first dress was only two thousand pounds, two dresses together
being less than three thousand pounds, that's more than that's
less than what people spent for like wonderful dress smashed.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
It didn't you.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
We've got to remember that is pounds. But I was
astoundard that that's all she's spent, particularly when we see
Molly made her sister.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Living quite large.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I mean, I don't think Molly could barely lift her
bloody hand. Her ring is that enormous. And I'm sure
that her wedding dress is going to be some custom
made coature gown that's tens of thousands of pounds. Zoe
said that she got Molly to actually pick out the
bridesmaid's dresses and she opted for some courture gowns. I

(20:30):
think that's almost a bit unfair that the bride'smaids potentially
had more expensive dresses. Well, she didn't say whether they
were more expensive, but she did be tho. Well, she
just basically said, oh, I couldn't be bothered, so I
just left it up to Molly, and I really liked
the dresses that she chose. In the end, do we
think that Molly foot the bill for those then I'm
not sure they didn't touch on that, but they have
been really open, as I said, about talking about their budget,

(20:52):
which I have found really fascinating because before they got married,
Zoe and Danny did a Q and A and they
were asked about how they divided up the costs.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Let's have a listen to what they said.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
So, yeah, you won't let me pay for anything for
the weddings I've gotten to.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
That was another question, who's paid for the wedding?

Speaker 7 (21:11):
I've got the DJ All right, look, you lot can
go on Google at Google my wage.

Speaker 8 (21:22):
Yeah no, but if if I was still on on
army wage, we would have just scheduled everything down.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
No, no, yeah, we would have done it.

Speaker 7 (21:29):
It just means that like all the money I've saved
up would well would be going on a wedding, which
is what everyone does. Yeah, whereas we're in a nice
fortunate team position where I'm still able to keep them
most of my savings part.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
We've kind of done it off like percentages of earnings.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
That's I think that's probably what most people do.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, Like we're not going to go fifty to fifty
on something.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
No, I've got no problem or qualms with the fact
that you know you earn more money than I do.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
And we've got a combined.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Such a taboo, I don't know, but it doesn't need
to be.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, like I need to hide what I am because
you could google it.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
This is why everyone is falling in love with this
couple because they're not shying away from awkward questions about money.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
They're happy to address it.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
And clearly Danny feels secure enough and comfortable enough to say, yeah,
Zoe did pay for the majority of it, but I
really wanted to help as much as I could. And yes,
I don't earn as much money as her, because in
the past a lot of men would hold shame about
the fact.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
That their partner earns more than them. But he seems
to be.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Very proud about that, and they just seem so cute together. Well,
I think the reason that Zoe is becoming so popular
too is she's always going to be the more relatable
one than Molly Matt. Yeah, Like, she's probably the person
that you go to to think, oh, okay, what's her
affordable outfit?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
She looks good, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Going to be within my budget, whereas with Molly May Yeah,
she's great for outfit inspo, but you know you're not
going to be able to afford anything that she's wearing.
I mean, I enjoy following them both. They don't need
to be pitted against each other. They're great, but it'd
be really interesting to look at their demographics, y what
their cell rate is. Well. In a recent vlog, Molly
was saying that Zoe had actually sold more of something

(23:13):
than her that's how strong her audience is. Let's kick
off our new segment called Agony Sisters.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's a play on Agony Aunts.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Maybe we should have been the Agony Aunties because when
new Aunties, but we thought Sisters was more fun.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
We thought a lot of our followers might not have
sisters that they want to ask for advice from. So
I always get honest advice from sisters, even sometimes you
don't want it to be so honest.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
We do have a mailbox you put up her Q
and A.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
But if this is something we're hopefully going to be
doing every Friday, so send us in a DM what
your issue is. It can be about anything, but the
dms are a good space because they're a bit longer,
so you can give us more detail and we will
keep you one hundred percent anonymous.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So one of our listeners.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Has asked what to do when your best friend doesn't
make time for you slash only when she wants something.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
The difference with.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Best friends and sisters is you often have to be
more thoughtful when approaching an issue with a best friend
because they're not a family member. You have to really
think about what you're going to say. You don't want
to offend anyone. I know there are some best friends
who can say anything to one another.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
So it's a really difficult one because you've got to.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Think about does my best friend have something big going
on in her life? So is she busy because she's
got a new partner, Is she busy because she's got
a lot of pressures at work, or is it because
she is trying to freeze me out. I think you've
got to talk to her about it and approach it
in a non confrontational, non aggressive way, because she might

(24:46):
get her back up about it. If she's your best friend,
you should be in a position where you can tell
her that you feel like she's not making time for you.
It's difficult because when people get older and maybe they
get a long term partner or work gets really busy.
Sometimes it's hard fitting everyone see. I think it would
be difficult to say to your best friend, oh, you're

(25:08):
not making time for me, because I feel like that
could spark an argument. I would almost do some little
tests to see if they were genuinely busy, Like there
might be genuine reasons why your best friend can't see
maybe you need to start making a big effort, Like
it sounds like you're already making an effort, but maybe
you just need to go, hey, let's go out for dinner,

(25:29):
like we really need to catch up. I feel like
I haven't seen you. I really miss you. I think
it's really important to set regular catch ups with people
in your life that are important to see, like a
best friend, for instance, we see our best friend at
least once a week, so we will make time.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
We know that there's going to.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Be some sort of lunch, dinner or house catch up.
Same with our cousins who I classify as my best friends,
we see them every week. It's just with a best friend,
it's just should be implied that there's going to be
regular catch ups. And that's really why you're feeling a
bit up because maybe these catch ups are starting to
dwindle and you're not seeing each other as much and
you're becoming disconnected in one another's lives, and she might

(26:08):
want to see you. It might be that she's so
genuinely busy, or maybe she's bogged down in this new
relationship and she feels like she doesn't have the time
to see you, which is shit.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
As a friend.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Receiving end of that, I've always got to make time
for your friends. It's one thing that's really important, even
if you're in a new relationship, because those relationships can
end and then you're left potentially with no friends. My
suggestion would be to reach out to her again, try
and see if you can catch up for dinner or
something that's face to face, and get a feel for

(26:40):
what's going on in her life, if there are some
big events or moments going on that are keeping her
really busy, and just say something like I really miss you.
Can we catch up more. I feel a bit sad
that we haven't been catching up regularly. Because if you're
saying you're sad and you miss someone, they can't really
get mad. I have heard of this happening quite a
bit when people get into their thirties. Sometimes their best

(27:02):
friend goes hay Wi like, they just act a different way,
and sometimes they almost need to be called out. All
the friendship needs to end because they're not healthy. There's
some people who outgrow certain friends.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, or you just becomes toxic.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, it does become toxic, and you need to decide
if you're willing to put up with that behavior. Because
a good friend will reach out, a good friend will
make time to see you. It's not that difficult to
pick up your phone in this day and age and
have a conversation. So yeah, you've got a weigh up.
Obviously it's very difficult because we're only reading a small
message here, but you have to weigh up whether the

(27:39):
way they're treating you, whether you're happy for that to continue,
or if you just need to broach the topic maybe
firstly in a sensitive way and see how it goes
from there.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Well, good luck with it all. We hope it does
work out.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
If you have a question for the Agony Sisters to
send it in, well, thank you so much for listening
to another episode. Don't forget to follow Outspoken on TikTok and.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Also on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
We're at outspe so you can underscore the Underscore podcast.
You can also find Sophie and I on TikTok and Instagram.
This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the
Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
We pay respect to elders past and present.
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