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Nicole Tuxbury (00:02):
Hello and
welcome back to the next episode
of Overcome Yourself, thepodcast.
As you know, my name is Nicoleand I'm so excited to be here
today across the world.
I'm in Miami, she's near Sydney, australia.
We've got Catherine.
Welcome, catherine, and pleasetake it away and tell us a
little bit about yourself andwhat you do in Australia.
Catherine Crestani (00:24):
Yeah,
beautiful, thank you.
So in Australia, yeah,beautiful.
Thank you so much for having me, nicole.
So, as Nicole said, my name isCatherine, my little business is
called Willow Healing and I'man intuitive healer, a
leadership coach, an author anda speaker, and my big passion is
empowering people, and this hascome through my own journey of
learning how to empower myselfin all aspects of my life.
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And my true passion, which iskeeps evolving, is helping
mothers to find their voice andbusiness in their life so that
they can actually create a lifethat they want and they love,
and they just want to jump outof bed and start every day.
Nicole Tuxbury (01:01):
That makes such
a difference, right Like, versus
dragging yourself through everyday.
That makes such a difference,right Like, versus dragging
yourself through every day.
That was one of my goals.
I was like I, if I'm going tolive, I'm going to live and I
want it to be fun and I want itto be happy, I want it to be
exciting.
I don't want to be draggingmyself through every day just to
make it through, just for a job, drug, sex and rock and roll
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like that can't be, that can'tbe it, that can't be like the
epitome of life, right?
I wrote that in my book.
So so, yeah, so tell me alittle bit more.
Catherine Crestani (01:32):
Yeah.
So I guess my journey has beenevolving over oh gosh many years
, probably at least the last twodecades.
So I've always been a quite ahigh achiever.
You know, I always wanted to dothe best in school, but then I
would always self-sabotagemyself.
So I would study and study andstudy, and I have quite a good
memory, you know so.
But I would get to the finalyear of school and go into those
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final exams and everything Ihad studied kind of blanked out
completely.
And it wasn't that I hadn'tdone the work, it wasn't that I
hadn't put the effort in, and itwasn't that I hadn't done the
work, it wasn't that I hadn'tput the effort in, it was that
that little voice inside me wassaying you're not enough, you
can't do this, you know.
And all the doubt would creepin.
And I still remember thisparticular exam.
So in Australia we have trialexams before our big final one,
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at least in Sydney anyway.
And there was a certain paperthat was renowned for being
incredibly hard and I did likethe top maths we could do in.
This paper was in front of meand I just saw it and absolutely
shut down.
And I remember the moment andmy teacher said to me he goes,
how did what happened?
He goes.
You got the hard questions andyou didn't get any of the easy
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ones right.
He goes.
What happened in there?
I was like I don't know, hegoes.
What happened in there?
I was like I don't know, Idon't know, I just I don't know.
You know, and this kind ofshadowed me throughout life, you
know, and it kept getting youknow more and more prominent, to
the point where you know, evenin my marriage I was in my first
marriage I was at this pointwhere I didn't even know myself
anymore because I'd given awayso much of myself that I wasn't
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good enough or I wasn't worthy,just as I was, to the point that
there was nothing left of me.
And it took one friend justsaying to me I don't know who
you are anymore for me to go.
Oh, I don't know who I amanymore either.
And that started like it was acatalyst and it started me
actually reflecting on actually,no, maybe we're not thriving in
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this relationship together,because I am a believer that you
know you either grow togetheror you grow apart, and that's
okay.
That's just part of being humanand that's part of life, and if
you grow apart, it's aboutbeing, you know, doing so in
such a way that you just wisheach other happiness and accept
that maybe together you weren't,weren't meant to be.
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And then, once, then I had mypersonal life sorted and I was
so happy in myself.
I managed to attract my husbandnow, accidentally, was not
looking for another relationship.
I was really excited to besingle for a while, you know,
because I got married quiteyoung and you know.
And then all of a sudden, oh,this part of my life is amazing
and everyone's like, wow, youwere just in this happy love
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bubble.
It's like, yeah, we are, we'regenuinely in this happy bubble,
you know.
And then we started buildingour life together and then that
made me realize how unhappy Iwas in my work life.
So at that point I had my ownbusiness, but also I was in a
business partnership and it wasquite toxic, the business
partnership.
And it was only once I realizedand started taking value in
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myself and empower myself that Icould say, all right, this
isn't right, I need to actuallynow, you know, move away from
that.
And and I say that was mysecond divorce.
So I went through a marriagedivorce and then I went through
a business partner divorce andthen, from there I had my own
company, which grew and it grewand it grew.
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But unfortunately, nicole, I'dmade the culture dependent on me
.
Everything came back to me.
I was the center, I was theanswer for everything, I was IT,
I was the person checkingreports, I was, everything was
about me and I was working sevendays a week.
I was waking it was almost 24hours because even I would go to
bed and wake up in the middleof the night and go oh my gosh,
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I have to send this email, thisemail, this email.
And I started sending theemails on a delay send because
writing the list wasn't enoughanymore and I had adrenal
fatigue.
I had chronic you know stress,I had burnout, I had panic
attacks.
I can't tell you how many timesI felt like I couldn't breathe.
You know, I had anxiety.
I had all these things becauseI created this culture that
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wasn't serving me.
And it was only when I startedmy spiritual journey and
unpacking my spiritual gifts andmy spiritual mentor said you
need to sit down and write alist of everything you like
doing in your company andeverything you don't, and the
list of what I liked when I wastruly honest with myself was
maybe four or five things, andthe list of what I didn't was
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everything else.
And I went, oh you know, thisneeds to change.
Like this isn't right.
So then, you know, I made thisprocess of selling and all of a
sudden I had this space to be meand find myself again.
But subconsciously, because Istill had that worth and that
doubt issue, I decided to pushall that wealth away and I still
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to this day.
I'm not sure what happened toit all, and it's not like we're
big spenders or anything likethat, but it's just how the
universe works, right?
If you don't think you'reworthy of it and deserving of
receiving it, then it getspushed away.
And all of a sudden, we wentfrom I'm like, oh great, I can
have some time off, I canactually breathe, and we went
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back to living from week to weekand I was like, how did this
happen, you know?
And it was then that I startedto work through my wealth story
and my worth story.
More than the wealth, it was myworth and learning that I am
enough.
And you know, something I dowith my clients is, you know, we
actually look and write downall the things that we do to
contribute to others, andespecially as a mom.
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We forget that our value comesfrom actually being the mom.
You know, like washing anddoing laundry, and you know
cooking and doing the schoolruns and all these amazing
things.
We forget that has value.
This because we're not gettingpaid for it doesn't mean that it
doesn't have value.
And when you realize that andif you, I often say, if you
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don't look after yourself,what's going to happen to the
rest of your family?
If you can't get out of bed inthe morning because you're so
unwell, because you've neglectedyour health, you've neglected
yourself what's going to happento your family?
And that really puts things inperspective.
You know it's only once we stepback and go yeah, you know,
that's kind of what happens.
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Then you can go all right, thisisn't working, I need to build
a life that's for me, and theneveryone else gets that overflow
once my cup is full.
Nicole Tuxbury (07:56):
Yeah, yes, yes,
yes, yes.
Talk about overcoming yourself,talking about being able to
have hard talks with yourself,right, and sometimes it's hard
to have honest talks, like youhave to sit down with yourself
and you have to be really,really honest and be like no
mask, no, like no expectation,like what is it that you want?
Like get away from everybody,clear it out.
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But that is so important.
And I want you to talk to me alittle bit about gratitude.
Has gratitude played a part inthis journey for you?
Catherine Crestani (08:28):
So much so.
So you know, even when I didn'tunderstand what was happening,
the most powerful thing I heardwas thank you for the good.
I cannot see and just sayingthat you know, because,
especially when you're in thoselow moments and I fully
understand anyone listening howthose low moments can feel and
how they just you know, I'vebeen on a ball in the floor
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rocking and crying because youknow I had a whole heap of staff
leave and the you know, in theindustry I'm in or was in, it
was really hard to find staff.
So you know, for me that waslike oh my goodness.
You know I'm trying to workless and all of a sudden I've
got a bigger workload again andjust rocking and being in that
point where, you know, becausethe vibration and the energy
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that we're in actually moves itup, and then your, your brain
goes oh, actually we don't haveto put as much focus on that now
.
We can actually shift that andwe can be that change now.
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And every morning I wake up andI have a daily practice, so I
wake up an hour before my family, so I'm up at like this morning
it was 4 30, but normally it'saround 5 am and I make it 505
because I'm a number person.
So I'm up at like this morningit was 4.30, but normally it's
around5 AM and I make it 5.05cause I'm a number person.
So I get up at 5.05 andeveryone's like, yep, I get that
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and I will spend that firsthour on me.
And when my coach originallytold me to do that, I said
you're crazy.
You know I need my sleep.
But now I have so much energyit's not that anymore.
It's like I wanna get up and Iwanna honor myself.
So I do.
And you can just start by doingone thing for yourself.
Just pick one thing.
So for me, I started with agratitude practice, right, and
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it was like right, I wake up inthe morning and I think of five
things I'm grateful for.
And if you're really struggling, it can be as simple as I'm
grateful I have a bed to sleepin.
I'm grateful I'm alive.
I'm grateful I have air tobreathe.
I'm grateful I've got water,I've got food.
It can be that simple and thatcan change your whole
perspective and outlook for therest of the day.
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You know, um?
And then the next week you'vegot that gratitude practice.
Then you can add something elsefor yourself.
It might be meditation, itmight be a bit of movement, it
might be making a cup of tea ora coffee and actually drinking
it while it's warm, you know.
So it might be as simple asthat.
Nicole Tuxbury (10:56):
You know, and
even if it's just sitting
somewhere and doing nothing,because maybe you don't get a
chance to do that during the day, and so you want to sit down
and you want to watch sometrashy tv, do it.
If that's what, if that's whatinspires you, why not right?
Catherine Crestani (11:10):
I absolutely
love that Exactly.
And if you start your day withthat, then you've got the gas to
then get yourself through therest of the day.
And because you've started bydoing something you love and by
you honoring yourself and anyonewho's trying to start their own
business, I often tell them,you know, especially if they've
got a nine to five and they whatthey tend to do is they'll
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start their day with their nineto five and then they'll get
home and have no energy left todo what they actually love and
are passionate about.
You need to flip that.
You need to start your daydoing something for your
business, for you, and thenthat's going to make the mundane
and the fuel and give you thefuel to get through the rest of
the day.
Whether it's parenting, whetherit's doing a job you don't want
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to be in, whether it's tryingto create something, whatever it
might be doing, something youlove is going to fuel you to get
through the rest of that.
Nicole Tuxbury (12:03):
And you're doing
that right now, like you're
leading by example, because it'smorning time for you, right,
even though it's nighttime forme.
Catherine Crestani (12:09):
Yeah.
So I'll give you an example ofmy morning.
This morning and I'm notbragging, this is just I got up,
so I was up there.
Um, yeah, I was up at quarterto five.
I had a podcast interview at 530, so before that I was doing,
I did um meditation.
I like a quick meditation, so Icheck in every day with God and
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ask how I can serve.
So that's how I set my tone forthe day, which I found is
really powerful and keeps meconnected and feeling into my
inner wisdom.
And then I did my gratitudepractice and then I do some
movement.
I try and do a bit of yogaevery day to keep my body moving
.
I do pushups against the wall,which is really, really powerful
.
If anyone's wondering, it saysI can't do pushups, just use a
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wall.
It's great and you know.
And then I would go do thethings I always put off, so my
Instagram reel and thenconnecting with people like
meaningful connections, and thenthere I was off.
So I've done my third podcastfor today and it's only 10 to 9
in the morning here.
So you know it's just yeah.
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And then the rest of the day I'mgoing to spend with my child,
because we homeschool, and thenwith my son, because we're doing
a few things today, and thenthis evening will be coaching
for me.
So you know, my day is actuallystructured around building
relationships and creating thatlife that I wanted and how I
want it to look like, ratherthan what other people dictate
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it should look like.
Nicole Tuxbury (13:35):
Yes, I had to
have a talk with myself the
other day about that and reallyI was like, well, you need to
work more.
And then I stopped and I waslike, says who Like work what
you're working, make the best ofit.
But like nobody, there's noneed for you to work more, like
you clearly don't want to,because if you did want to, you
would have done it already.
So, you know, like working morehours, um, and it's funny how
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we beat ourselves up about thatbecause, like, I'm always doing
something if it's not like awork thing, if you know a
podcast episode, working on somecopy, doing something on social
media we're doing stuff aroundthe house, you know, right, like
you said, like we're doinglaundry or we're cleaning the
floor or we're giving you know,dogs baths and we're washing the
you know the stuff theys andwe're washing the you know the
stuff they threw up on andcleaning the windows and running
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to the grocery store, and thenwe don't give ourselves credit
for those things, right, and soI think that's that's so
powerful.
And, you know, gratitude helpsus, helps us see that Something
that you mentioned beinggrateful for the air that's
something I talked about in apodcast earlier today we were
recording.
If you can't find anything to begrateful for, be grateful for
the fact that the oxygen has theexact, right percentages of
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what you need just to be able tobreathe.
Because I remember being at apoint where I couldn't even be
grateful to be alive because itdidn't fit in my head, it didn't
make sense to me.
I was like this is notsomething to be grateful for,
and that's sad, but that waswhere I was right, and so I had
to learn how to find things thatI was like well, at least I can
breathe.
Well, at least, like you said,like it, you know my back hurts,
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but at least I can feel it.
At least I have a a fightingchance to make something, um,
make something good out of thisright and to overcome this.
So, um, I love that, um, so Iwould love to know know if you
have a free gift for theaudience, like please definitely
tell us about that and let usknow how we can stay in touch
with you, catherine.
Catherine Crestani (15:25):
Yeah,
definitely Thanks, nicole.
So I just want to add too whenyou were saying about the
gratitude, I had a mentor andshe said that she hated going to
work but her boss treated herquite poorly, so she had to find
gratitude in that.
So her gratitude was like I'mgrateful her shoes match her
outfit and I'm grateful she'snice to her child, you know, and
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things like that.
So you can find, you know, andbe humorous about it.
That humor can lift you up andget you out of that as well, and
having that joy and thatlaughter it very, very powerful.
So, um, thank you for forsharing your experience too,
where you know it's just yeah,um, so how to get in contact
with me?
So I've got a website whichwill take you to my app.
(16:07):
If you want to download it.
You don't have to download it,but it it's just has a lot more
features.
So it's willowhealingorg, soo-r-g and um.
On there you can find there's afree community.
There's lots of free gifts aswell, and the gift I'm leaving
to your listeners is a month ofsubscription where you can
actually listen to ourmeditations and activations for
(16:27):
free.
So if you're looking for aguided meditation and I try and
keep them short.
Some are longer, but there'salso short ones as well.
Because I'm a mom, I get it.
I listen to everything ondouble time, so I fully
understand, you know what's that?
like you can also follow me onInstagram.
So it's Willow Healing and thenSH at the end of it, and every
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Monday morning I do a live allSydney time where you can tune
in and I do a free Oraclereading where it just gives the
energy for the week and if youlike it, you can get a free
Oracle reading as well, whereyou can tune in and I do a free
oracle reading where it justgives the energy for the week
and, if you like it, you can geta free oracle reading as well,
so you can interact that way.
And you can also find me onsubstack, so
willowhealingsubstackcom awesome.
Nicole Tuxbury (17:08):
All those links
will be available down in the
show notes.
Catherine Crestani (17:11):
Yes, and
yeah, and we'll give you that
discount code as well in theshow notes, and Nicole will make
it available for you too, justbecause I have to set it up and
make sure it works first,because I'm human.
Nicole Tuxbury (17:22):
Absolutely.
Oh my gosh.
Thank you so much, Catherine.
So if you were going to signoff and leave us with a few
words of wisdom, what would theybe?
Catherine Crestani (17:34):
I would say
to trust yourself and that you
can be the change you want to bein the world and your life can
look exactly how you want it tobe.
You just have to believe yeah,I love that.
Nicole Tuxbury (17:45):
Oh my gosh.
Thank you so much, catherine.
This has just been absolutelyamazing um and um.
We will see you online.
So thanks for joining us andwe'll see you next time on
overcome yourself the podcastthanks, nicole, thank you.