Are you feeling stuck in your life, even after trying therapy, medication, and every solution under the sun?
In this inspiring episode, Michelle chats with group coaching client Jessie—a once-skeptical working woman who was buried in overwhelm and doubt. Despite being unsure that group coaching could help, Jessie took a chance, and what unfolded changed everything in just 12 weeks.
In this episode, you will:
- Discover the moment Jessie’s mindset shifted from hopeless to empowered.
- Learn why realizing what’s out of your control could be the key to lasting peace.
- Hear how Jessie manifested her dream home, kept her job, and built habits that support her emotionally—without hustle or burnout.
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Jessie Weiss (00:00):
I thought, this is just not going to work.
This is silly.
Michelle Gauthier (00:09):
You're listening to Overwhelmed Working
Woman, the podcast that helpsyou be more calm and more
productive by doing less.
I'm your host, MichelleGauthier, a former Overwhelmed
Working Woman and current lifecoach.
On this show, we unpack thestress and pressure that today's
working woman experiences andin each episode you'll get a
strategy to bring more calm,ease and relaxation to your life
(00:33):
.
Hi, friend, you might havenoticed from that intro sentence
that today I'm interviewingJessie, who just finished my
last round of group coaching,who was a skeptic, to say the
least, about what we were goingto do in group coaching and what
she was actually going to learn.
She went from feeling reallyskeptical and hopeless to
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completing a total life upgrade.
She'll talk about a powerfulmindset reframe that was
focusing on what's in versus outof her control, and how that
helped her get started on herjourney of changing her outlook.
Why vision boards work eventhough she rolled her eyes at
them and even says in theinterview that she thinks I'm
crazy and how the vision boardled her to a dream life in
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Florida - such a great story.
And then how changing the wayyou talk to yourself can lift
the weight of overwhelm andreally build lasting changes and
confidence.
So listen to Jessie's story andsee if you feel inspired.
If you are interested in groupcoaching, I would love to talk
to you.
Because it's such a small, hightouch group.
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I would like to connect witheveryone individually before
they join.
So if you are interested,registration opens today and the
first step is to book thatquick 15 minute call with me and
on that we'll make sure that itfeels like a good fit and you
can ask any questions so thatyou can feel really confident
about saying yes, or, like Jesse, saying maybe, but I'm going to
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give it a try.
All right, let's dive in andhear what Jessie has to say.
Hi, Jessie, Thanks for being on.
Jessie Weiss (02:09):
Thank you for having me.
Michelle Gauthier (02:10):
Yeah, I'm so excited to have you.
So Jessie has just finished thelatest round of group coaching
that we did and I asked her tocome on and talk about some of
the things that she learned andsome of the changes that
happened in her life throughoutthe program.
So will you start by telling ushad you ever worked with a life
coach before, either in groupor one-on-one?
Jessie Weiss (02:32):
I had never worked with a life coach before group
or one-on-one, so this is a newexperience for me.
Michelle Gauthier (02:39):
Okay, and how did you feel before?
Jessie Weiss (02:43):
You know before, I'm still shocked that you even
asked me to be on the podcastbecause I thought that you might
hate me after our first meeting, because I still remember you
being like Jessie, hat made youwant to join and I remember
being so skeptical about joining.
I'm actually shocked that Ieven joined the group because I
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thought this is just not goingto work.
This is silly.
But I ended up joining it and Itried to think back like why
did I join it?
And I think it was.
I was just in a really funkyplace in my life and mindset
that time and, if I could useone word to describe it, I felt
overwhelmed.
And with your podcast being theOverwhelmed Working Woman, I
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was like, well, maybe she mightget it and I thought I'll give
it a try.
If it works, awesome.
If not, then yay.
I was right that it was goingto be bad.
Michelle Gauthier (03:37):
I knew it.
I knew this was going to suck.
Exactly.
So funny and I absolutely lovethat you went in thinking this
isn't going to work, but therehad to be some part of you that
was like you know, maybe it'sworth me, I'm going to try it
and do it, okay.
So you said you were kind of ina funk at that time and feeling
really overwhelmed.
(03:57):
How did that feel to you inparticular in your life?
Were you overwhelmed with workor personal, or what did your
overwhelm feel?
Jessie Weiss (04:06):
I felt overwhelmed , both personally and
professionally.
I thought I had problems thatwere unsolvable and too big to
even get started and so I feltat an impasse, like I guess this
is my life now I'm just goingto be stuck.
And in the past I even didcognitive behavioral therapy.
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I did regular therapy.
I'm on anxiety and depressionmedicine.
Like I was like what else couldI try?
So I was almost at my wits endon what could I do to try
something else and I was like,well, I'll give this a try.
I tried all these other thingsand haven't really had fast
improvement.
So the feeling was I hatesaying the feeling was
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overwhelmed, but it was a lossof hope.
I just didn't think that.
I thought this is where I amright now and wouldn't have any
improvement.
Michelle Gauthier (05:01):
Yes, okay.
So thank you so much for sharingthat, and I think that's really
going to resonate with peoplewho are listening, because when
the feeling is overwhelmed, it'sto me that just means it's too
big.
Everything is too big, theproblem feels too big and you
can't just say, okay, I'm goingto go solve overwhelm today.
It's just, it doesn't work thatway because it's too big, and
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you know now from going throughthe program.
But if people are listening andare like I don't even know how
to begin to solve this, thefirst thing is calling what it
is it's overwhelm and thennoticing that when you think
about solving it, it just feelstoo big.
And when it feels too big, youdo nothing, you start to just
accept and feel hopeless aboutit, which is such a sad place to
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be.
I know I felt super stuck whenit was me thinking okay, I chose
this, I chose this life formyself, I chose this career, I
really wanted to have kids andthis is just how it has to feel.
But it's not true, is it?
It's not true at all.
Yes, yes, okay.
So you were really skeptical inthe first meeting.
So we have 12 sessions foreverybody listening.
We have 12 sessions foreverybody listening.
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We have 12 sessions.
So on the first one, you werelike I don't know about this,
this seems weird.
When did you have a moment thatyou're like, oh, I actually
feel kind of better.
Jessie Weiss (06:12):
I think it was.
You know, I had my book infront of me and I think it was
lesson four.
Well, yeah, because before thatwe did some meditating and
vision boards and I was likethis lady is crazy, but I will
do everything she says Because Iwanted to have the backup.
Like I did everything you saidand it didn't work.
(06:33):
So that was like I'm going tofollow what she said and have
this as proof.
But it happened in lesson four,which was what is in and out of
your control, and I don't knowwhat happened.
It like clicked something in mybrain and I just started
thinking about so many of thethings that were maybe upsetting
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me in my life were out of mycontrol and I was starting like
I could just feel those thingsfalling away from me and weights
falling off of me, and thatreally started kind of the
turnaround.
So it did take till the fourthlesson for a glimmer of hope to
happen.
Yes, and and when we started, Ithink after that we started
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focusing on our feelings and notour thoughts, and that was also
very eye-opening because Iremember we had to share what
are your thoughts about?
Your problem and my problem wasabout you know I can't lose
weight and I remember sayingsome of my thoughts out loud and
(07:39):
you said back Jessie, would youtalk to your best friend like
that?
Would you say those things toyour best friend?
Like no, I wouldn't.
Why am I saying these to myself?
And like fireworks went off, itwas just why am I doing this?
Michelle Gauthier (07:56):
Yes, yes, and so I think those two things you
said right there focusing onwhat's in versus out of your
control, and realizing, wow,these things that are out of my
control are having a lot ofpower over me right now.
They're really making me feeloverwhelmed, and I think it's
important to point out that,like, let's just say, you were
really stressed out about workand something was out of your
control.
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Nothing changed about youractual work.
So it's not like the worldaround you has to change or you
have to change all these hugethings in your life.
It was a shift in your thinkingthat really made you feel so
much better, and same with theshift in your thinking about why
am I talking to myself likethis?
And it's not like we wake up inthe morning and think you know
what?
I'm going to be really crappyto myself today, I'm going to
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really shame myself.
But it just becomes a pattern,an unconscious pattern, and
until we take the time toinvestigate it and work on it,
it just stays with us and itmakes me so sad to think about
how women talk to themselves.
Jessie Weiss (08:58):
It made me sad to look back on it because I even I
wrote down in there like wouldI say this to my best friend,
and I remember like I physicallywrote down you're a lazy POS.
It's like, yeah, I was tellingmyself that all the time.
No wonder I wasn't feeling good.
Michelle Gauthier (09:09):
Yes, exactly, and like is that the thing
that's going to motivate you?
No, but I do think sometimesthat that's our intention, Like
I have to really be mean tomyself in order to motivate
myself, but it doesn't work.
Jessie Weiss (09:24):
No definitely not.
No, it definitely does not.
Michelle Gauthier (09:26):
Okay, let's pause on the vision board part,
where you were like this lady iscrazy.
I'm just going to do this sothat I can say I did everything.
At the end I do have to say,just as a side note, I have an
actual guarantee on the program,like if you go through the
program and you do everythingevery lesson and you're like I
didn't get any change, Iliterally will give people their
money back.
(09:47):
I'm like just come and try itand do the thing and if it
doesn't work, I'll give you yourmoney back.
I've never had to give anybodytheir money back, but I
appreciate you telling us thetruth about how you thought that
was really weird and wereskeptical of the whole thing.
Can you tell us a little bitabout what was on your vision
board and kind of how you feltwhen you were making that,
because you'd never made onebefore?
Jessie Weiss (10:07):
Right, I've never made a vision board before and I
carry it around in my officebag with me or my work bag all
this time now because I likelooking at it.
Michelle Gauthier (10:18):
Which I love it.
She didn't help it up, you guysaren't on video, but I just got
to see a peek of it again, Ilove it.
Jessie Weiss (10:25):
And the biggest problem.
I decided not to focus on itbecause you had us radar
problems one, two and three andI said number one is basically
impossible, and that was Iwanted to move to Florida and
keep my job and work remotely.
I said that's not even going tohappen, so I'm not even going
to focus on, focus on and Idecided to focus on being a
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healthier version of myself.
And then, lo and behold, I onmy vision board.
I put all of the Florida thingsthat I wanted to have happen
and said you know, this is thearea I want to live, this is my
favorite restaurant there, so Iwant my backyard to look like.
And on a trip to Florida, wefound our dream house and we
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found out that we got it at therestaurant that I had on my
vision board.
Michelle Gauthier (11:14):
It's just beyond amazing and that was
crazy.
The house that you had on thereeven looks similar to the house
that you actually bought.
That was so crazy.
And this is all in a 12 weekperiod.
And then what happened withwork?
Jessie Weiss (11:29):
All of it fell into place.
I came up with a plan, Ipresented it to my manager.
It all got approved withinagain that 12 week time period.
So I'm moving the end of Junedown to Florida and I'll be
coming back quarterly for workwith the same job.
And I literally thought thatwas an impossible task or
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possible problem.
It could not be solved.
And so I said I'm not evengoing to solve it.
And you gave me the tools toreally change my mindset during
the course.
Like this is possible and Ihave goosebumps right now.
I feel so corny saying that,but like I envisioned it and
made it happen and I reallythink it happened because of the
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change in my thoughts andmindset on it.
Michelle Gauthier (12:18):
Yes, absolutely.
I think that's definitely true,and it's so cool that, even
though that was kind of a side,you put that as a side thing to
work on the tools that you werelearning, and just the way you
started looking at and thinkingabout your life, like, for
example, it was in your controlto ask if you could work
remotely.
It wasn't in your control todecide if that was going to
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happen or not.
So I just think that's soawesome that you know, as an
added side bonus, you've got thehouse in Florida and you get to
keep your job.
That's just amazing.
so, even though you wereskeptical, you stuck with it
Jessie Weiss (12:51):
and I even had one more funny thing about the
vision board, another thing Iput on there was a picture of me
and my husband.
We don't have kids.
We have 10 nieces and nephewsand I put a picture of us out to
dinner with our three oldestnephews and niece and that was
like my favorite dinner.
They asked me to dinner toteach them about etiquette,
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which I think I mean it's cuteand I love etiquette, and so I
thought that was a one and donething.
And then at Easter they askedme to do it again.
So we're doing it again in acouple of weeks and I was like
I'm such a believer in thevision board I put, I put that
out there.
I didn't ask them about it,they came to me and I just think
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that I am sending out differentvibes to the world, that I am
like a happier person yes, thatthat is helping me in my work
and personal life.
Michelle Gauthier (13:45):
That is so wonderful, wonderful, like, yeah
, you're sending out the vibesof I'm open, I'm available to do
these things, I'm happy.
And it is funny.
I read this.
This was in a Martha Beck book.
She did this experiment whereshe got herself into a really
bad mood and feeling and energyand went to a coffee shop and
just observed how strangersinteracted with her, versus
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being like what you're talkingabout, where she felt happy and
open and whatever, and withouteven talking to people, just the
way people talk to her andtreated her.
It's like we're giving off asignal and that signal is
something.
And if you're thinking, I don'tknow what my signal is right
now, it's very powerful tointentionally create the type of
signal that you want to have tobe in the type of energy you
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want to have.
That's great.
I love that.
That's such a great story.
So what would you say was thebest thing that you learned?
Jessie Weiss (14:36):
Besides manifesting my life on a vision
board.
Outside of that, yeah yeah, thebest thing I learned, and I
really try to do, is focusing onthe wins.
Even when I have what I thinkmight be considered a bad day, I
usually can find a win in thatbad day and that really lifts my
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spirits and I've tried toincorporate that just into my
daily practice.
On focusing on the win so thatwas the best thing.
On the wind, so that was thebest thing.
I also learned a few mantrasthat I try to say before
responding to things and likewould I volunteer my time and
energy for this?
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If the answer is no, maybe Ishouldn't do that.
Also, you taught us you don'tneed to reply to an email or
text message right away, and ifI do feel the need that I had to
reply right away, I can alwayssay thank you.
Let me think about it, becausethat was something I was over
committing my time to things byalways saying yes, and now I'm
(15:39):
trying to take a pause andreally focusing on does this fit
what I want to accomplish withmy life?
Michelle Gauthier (15:46):
Yes, that's perfect.
And why do you think you usedto say yes right away?
Jessie Weiss (15:52):
People pleaser number one.
Although some other girls inour group also fit that
description.
Yes, yes, we were all peoplepleasing and I just said yes to
everything, and now I really trynot to.
I just said yes to everythingand now I really try not to.
And it's funny that you saythat my manager even commented
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on me and she goes good for youfor saying no to this.
I'm so proud of you here.
I was my thoughts.
She's going to hate me forsaying no and the exact opposite
happened.
Michelle Gauthier (16:42):
Like I'm so proud of you for saying no to
this and you explained that itjust doesn't fit with your time
right now.
They know you know that they'recoming from a place where they
investigate it.
They thought about what theywant their answer to be and then
they tell you and that justfeels good.
As the receiver, too, I thinkwe're all.
We always have this thoughtthat if I say no, they're going
to be upset, mad, think I'm notresponsible enough, not a team
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player.
You know all these thoughtsthat we have about ourselves.
That's great, great.
So before you could, youlearned how to take that pause,
but before you could actuallystart saying no, we had to
investigate the people pleasing,which is, of course, one of our
lessons in there as well.
Yes, okay, great.
And what was your favoritething about the coaching?
Jessie Weiss (17:24):
Well, I really enjoyed the group aspect of the
coaching.
I thought I was the only crazyperson and I thought I was the
only one having these thoughts.
I'm overwhelmed.
I can't get started withanything Like.
Sometimes I would just come towork and sit here.
I couldn't physically getstarted on doing anything.
(17:47):
Well, it turns out thathappened to everyone in our
group.
I didn't realize that I neededthe empathetic emotions coming
towards me as much as going awayfrom me.
I didn't realize how badly Ineeded that, to not feel alone
in my thoughts.
Michelle Gauthier (18:08):
And.
Jessie Weiss (18:09):
I really thought I was the only person struggling
with this, and then to find outeveryone was struggling with
pretty similar issues.
Again, it made I keep talkingabout this weight being lifted
off of me, but it made me feelso much better to not be alone.
Michelle Gauthier (18:25):
Yes.
Jessie Weiss (18:26):
Yes.
Michelle Gauthier (18:27):
Oh, that's so awesome.
And one of the things that atthe end of coaching I do a
survey and I ask people you knowkind of what happened and what
other people they admire in thegroup.
And something that I noticed inall the responses is each
member said, oh, so-and-soreached out to me individually
to encourage me when I washaving a bad day.
So everybody kind of starts tolook out for the other ones as
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well.
So you're getting all thisgreat empathy and feedback and
you're giving it, and there'sjust something about knowing
that you're not alone.
That is so freeing.
Then you can be vulnerable, thenyou can ask for encouragement.
I've seen you do that, whereyou're like okay, guys, I need
you to give me some goodfeedback on this.
I'm having a hard day, orwhatever it is, and I think
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that's so awesome.
Jessie Weiss (19:12):
A safe space was created and I felt safe to share
my personal issues with thatgroup and receive the
encouragement and it was nicethat everyone wasn't just giving
advice, it was we hear you, weknow what you're going through.
It's okay to feel that way.
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It's not okay to have thosenegative thoughts.
It's okay to feel that way andthat was very comforting to me.
Michelle Gauthier (19:39):
Yes, yes, agreed.
So, overall, how would you sayyour life is different from 12
weeks ago?
Jessie Weiss (19:51):
from 12 weeks ago, I would say.
Overall, I'm really trying tofocus on consistency instead of
perfection, and that is veryhelpful to me, I would say.
My negative self-talk hasdrastically decreased, which I
think makes me a lot happier ofa person, and I really try to
look for the wins, even in toughsituations.
Michelle Gauthier (20:11):
Now that the group is over, do you see
yourself being able to continuein those practices?
Jessie Weiss (20:18):
Yes, I do see myself continuing in these
practices even though our 12weeks has ended, because one I
still work with those six otherladies.
So that's super helpful that Ifeel like I have this embedded
support system now and now thatI see how my life and attitude
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has changed, it's motivation tonot go back to the way it was.
Yes, yes.
Michelle Gauthier (20:43):
And just like we have bad habits when we
develop good ones, they justbecome habits too.
One of my clients just said tome this week I was in a really
stressful situation but I justdidn't get stressed out and I
just turned it into a positiveand I handled it.
She said I don't know how thathappened.
I was like, well, because youpracticed a whole bunch, and
then now where it used to bethat you know you'd feel
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overwhelmed and not do your jobor whatever it was, now it just
automatically switches to themore positive path.
So I think that's the greatthing too, that the skills can
keep on going and anytime youneed like a brush up or a touch
up, you can reach out to yourgroup members, you can listen to
the podcast, you can read aself-help book like there's so
much available once you startopening your eyes to this world.
Jessie Weiss (21:27):
Yes, and I love that you gave us a physical
notebook or workbook to gothrough, because I leave it on
my desk and it does help me.
I wrote in the margins allsorts of helpful tips, and so
just re-looking at those hashelped me along the way too.
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Michelle Gauthier (21:44):
Great, ok, I'm going to switch to ask you
the two questions that I alwaysask everyone.
That's awesome, great.
Okay, I'm going to switch toask you the two questions that I
always ask everyone on thepodcast, but before I do, is
there anything else that Ididn't ask you about coaching or
anything you want to say?
Jessie Weiss (21:55):
I would just encourage anyone who is doubtful
about group coaching orcoaching in general, to give it
a chance and actually go throughwith the exercises, even if
they may seem silly to you,because, as Michelle mentioned,
no one has come out of it nothaving a positive experience.
So, even if you go in with abad mindset, I really think that
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Michelle and her program willswitch that mindset for you and
make your life all the betterfor it.
Michelle Gauthier (22:24):
Oh, thank you , I appreciate that and I'm
really appreciative of you beingso honest that you were like
this is crazy, she's crazy, thisis silly.
That's helpful.
It really is helpful, because Ithink we always have a little
bit of doubt about something,especially when it's weird, like
a vision.
Jessie Weiss (22:43):
When you're asking me like what did I smell on my
ideal day of?
Like this is on some other drug.
Michelle Gauthier (22:50):
Maybe I need to be on it Like she seems
suspiciously happy though.
So maybe, but I wrote down thesmell.
Well, when you get to Floridaand you get to your new house
and that smells in there, youcould be like I smell that beach
.
Jessie Weiss (23:02):
I'm happy yeah that's right.
Michelle Gauthier (23:04):
That is a very specific smell, like that
salty.
There's just something.
I can totally conjure it up.
All right, and here are the twoquestions that I ask everyone
who comes on the podcast Numberone what's something that you
can do to make yourself feelless overwhelmed?
Jessie Weiss (23:19):
I try my very best to not think about work when
I'm not at work, and if I dothink about work, I email myself
whatever that thought is andlet it go Wow that's great to
think about it after.
Michelle Gauthier (23:35):
That is such a great idea.
So how do you catch yourself inthe moment Like, oh wait, I'm
thinking about work, when Ican't Well it?
Jessie Weiss (23:43):
almost happens to me every day in the shower in
the mornings.
Okay, it's like my to-do listgoes off and right when I get
out of the shower I just emailmyself those things and it's
gone.
And so I really try to say, hey, jessie, things and it's gone.
And so I really try to say, hey, jessie, don't ruminate on what
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your to-do list is, put it outthere so you can work on it
later, but you don't need tothink about it right now when
you're getting ready.
Michelle Gauthier (24:09):
That's such a good tip because if you just
had it in your mind in theshower all the way, getting
ready, driving to work, all thatstuff, you're not doing
anything.
You're just wasting your braintime on something.
Yes, yes, one of my clientsjust told me the other day that
she takes her phone in theshower in case she has to like
answer a text or send herself anemail.
I was like please stop doingthat.
(24:30):
So when you said in the shower,I was like please tell me you
also don't have your phone inthe shower.
I'm glad to hear yours issitting to the side.
Nothing is so urgent that itneeds to be answered in the
shower.
I don't think I agree with you.
Oh my gosh.
And then what's something youconsistently do to save time or
do less?
Jessie Weiss (24:50):
I started this during our group coaching
session.
I started to pay for a mealplanning service and it sends me
a weekly calendar with healthymeals and the recipes, and it
also comes with a pre-formedgrocery list that I can also
edit like if I already havesomething in the fridge.
It literally saves me atminimum four hours every week
(25:16):
and before I was spending somuch time researching recipes
making my grocery list.
Now it's all done for me andI'm much happier.
That's amazing.
Michelle Gauthier (25:26):
Is it a?
Should we share the name?
Is there like a particularservice you would recommend it's
called the Bean Collective?
Okay, the Bean Collective.
I will put that in the shownotes in case anybody wants to
take a look at that.
That's great thing to share.
You know you mentioned thatyour number one goal was to
become a healthier version ofyourself, and we talked a lot
about the mental part ofbecoming a healthier version of
yourself, but we didn't reallytalk about your results on this
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front of like eating healthier.
I remember you did a challengelike a nutrition challenge.
Do you want to talk about thata little bit?
Jessie Weiss (25:56):
Yes, that was through the being Collective.
I did a 28-day challenge wherewe had educational components
and also you follow this eatingprogram.
I'm actually doing a 10-weekchallenge with them coming up
because I found it so helpful.
I need to be on a plan.
I found out to lose weight, andso this has been very helpful
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to me because I don't need totrack anything.
I'm not good at that.
I just follow what they put infront of me and I don't have to
do any other additional mentallegwork for it.
Michelle Gauthier (26:30):
That is great , oh my gosh.
So you get the email, you eat,you don't have to track it, you
just eat what you make and thenthat's it.
Jessie Weiss (26:39):
Yes, how do you feel?
I do feel a lot better becausethere's been a gap between the
two programs and I don't thinkit was made a habit after just
those 28 days.
So I fell off of it and nowthat I'm back on doing the meal
planning, I feel so much better.
A lot more energy, sleepingbetter, and I think that my
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mantra from the goal of gettinghealthier.
I have severe plantar fasciitisso I really love walking, but
it is super painful for me rightnow.
I'm working super hard througha chiropractor, podiatrist,
stretching, to get that better,but I keep reminding myself
you're working towards it.
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Don't be hard on yourself like,hey, you can't exercise right
now.
Focus on healthy eating and anddon't be hard on yourself, your
foot will get better eventuallyand then you can get back on
track with the exercising.
Michelle Gauthier (27:34):
I love that.
That's so great.
It's a perfect example ofwhat's in your control.
You're doing all the thingsthat are in your control.
You're seeing the right people,you're making the healthy foods
, you're trying to move towardsit and your plantar fasciitis
healing is out of your controland hopefully it's happening,
but you're doing everything youcan do to get it that way.
So that's a great example.
I love that and I love that youcame to know about yourself
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that you do better on a programand that you don't really like
to track stuff every day.
And that is so important too.
To be like I don't care whatworked for somebody else.
I have to think about me andknow me and do what feels best
to me.
Jessie Weiss (28:10):
That's right and that made me really close with
another girl in our group.
She also dislikes trackingthings.
In our group she also dislikestracking things.
We were laughing about familymembers who would try to, in
their way, encourage us to trackthings and we talked about that
in the group coaching sayinghey, let them have their advice,
but I don't need to accept it.
Michelle Gauthier (28:32):
Yes, that was also very helpful.
Let them was a big phrase weused a lot in our coaching.
Jessie Weiss (28:39):
Actually my girlfriends, and I say that to
each other now, oh that's sogreat, I love it.
Michelle Gauthier (28:44):
I love it, and your award from group
coaching was the queen of wins,that's right.
Yeah, because Jesse was the onewho we go around and say wins
every time to get ourselves inthe mindset of noticing the good
in our life, and she would belike, just a second, let me get
out my list.
And she'd have this whole giantlist of wins and in doing so,
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inspired everybody else in thegroup to really focus on their
wins and start writing them downduring the week, because a lot
of times people would say I knowI had some, but I can't
remember, and Jessie would belike let me get out my 17 item
list of all the great thingsthat happened to me this week.
So you were very inspiring andit was so great to have you in
the group.
Jessie Weiss (29:24):
It makes a big difference.
Thank you.
I saw a change not only inmyself but also the six other
women in the group andeveryone's change in mindset.
I don't want to say everyonehad a negative mindset, but I do
think that everyone came outmore positive than they were to
begin with.
Yeah, absolutely.
It was easy to see that.
Michelle Gauthier (29:43):
Yes, supposedly I don't remember
where I read this, butsupposedly like 90 something
percent of the thoughts in ourhead are by default negative.
So it's most likely that unlessyou've worked on it, you have
that negative mindset.
But once you've gone through it, then you have your little
tribe, your posse of people whohave done the same thing.
Then you guys can have yoursecret positive club at work, oh
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my gosh.
Well, thank you so much forbeing on.
It was great to see you and itwas so great having you in the
group, and I appreciate yousharing your experience with the
audience.
Thank you.
Jessie Weiss (30:15):
Thank you for having me.
I was honored to be asked.
Michelle Gauthier (30:18):
That's a wrap for today.
I hope you enjoyed hearingJessie's story.
I know I did, and I absolutelylove that she was able to change
her life by changing the waythat she was thinking about
things and taking new actions.
If you're feeling a nudge orthis is appealing to you, the
first step is to set up a callwith me, a quick 15 minute call.
I like to have a call witheveryone before group coaching
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so that we can make sure thatit's a great fit and that you
can ask any questions before youcommit and say yes to joining.
So if you'd like to do that, Iwould love to talk to you.
I have lots of spots blockedoff this week.
For that time, as we have groupcoaching open for registration
this week, there is a link inthe show notes and I would
absolutely love to talk to you.
Have a great week.
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Thank you for listening to theOverwhelmed Working Woman
podcast.
If you want to learn more aboutmy work, head over to my
website at michellegothiercom.
See you next week.
I thought, this is just not going to work.
This is silly.
Michelle Gauthier (00:09):
You're listening to Overwhelmed Working
Woman, the podcast that helpsyou be more calm and more
productive by doing less.
I'm your host, MichelleGauthier, a former Overwhelmed
Working Woman and current lifecoach.
On this show, we unpack thestress and pressure that today's
working woman experiences andin each episode you'll get a
strategy to bring more calm,ease and relaxation to your life
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.
Hi, friend, you might havenoticed from that intro sentence
that today I'm interviewingJessie, who just finished my
last round of group coaching,who was a skeptic, to say the
least, about what we were goingto do in group coaching and what
she was actually going to learn.
She went from feeling reallyskeptical and hopeless to
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completing a total life upgrade.
She'll talk about a powerfulmindset reframe that was
focusing on what's in versus outof her control, and how that
helped her get started on herjourney of changing her outlook.
Why vision boards work eventhough she rolled her eyes at
them and even says in theinterview that she thinks I'm
crazy and how the vision boardled her to a dream life in
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Florida - such a great story.
And then how changing the wayyou talk to yourself can lift
the weight of overwhelm andreally build lasting changes and
confidence.
So listen to Jessie's story andsee if you feel inspired.
If you are interested in groupcoaching, I would love to talk
to you.
Because it's such a small, hightouch group.
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I would like to connect witheveryone individually before
they join.
So if you are interested,registration opens today and the
first step is to book thatquick 15 minute call with me and
on that we'll make sure that itfeels like a good fit and you
can ask any questions so thatyou can feel really confident
about saying yes, or, like Jesse, saying maybe, but I'm going to
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give it a try.
All right, let's dive in andhear what Jessie has to say.
Hi, Jessie, Thanks for being on.
Jessie Weiss (02:09):
Thank you for having me.
Michelle Gauthier (02:10):
Yeah, I'm so excited to have you.
So Jessie has just finished thelatest round of group coaching
that we did and I asked her tocome on and talk about some of
the things that she learned andsome of the changes that
happened in her life throughoutthe program.
So will you start by telling ushad you ever worked with a life
coach before, either in groupor one-on-one?
Jessie Weiss (02:32):
I had never worked with a life coach before group
or one-on-one, so this is a newexperience for me.
Michelle Gauthier (02:39):
Okay, and how did you feel before?
Jessie Weiss (02:43):
You know before, I'm still shocked that you even
asked me to be on the podcastbecause I thought that you might
hate me after our first meeting, because I still remember you
being like Jessie, hat made youwant to join and I remember
being so skeptical about joining.
I'm actually shocked that Ieven joined the group because I
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thought this is just not goingto work.
This is silly.
But I ended up joining it and Itried to think back like why
did I join it?
And I think it was.
I was just in a really funkyplace in my life and mindset
that time and, if I could useone word to describe it, I felt
overwhelmed.
And with your podcast being theOverwhelmed Working Woman, I
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was like, well, maybe she mightget it and I thought I'll give
it a try.
If it works, awesome.
If not, then yay.
I was right that it was goingto be bad.
Michelle Gauthier (03:37):
I knew it.
I knew this was going to suck.
Exactly.
So funny and I absolutely lovethat you went in thinking this
isn't going to work, but therehad to be some part of you that
was like you know, maybe it'sworth me, I'm going to try it
and do it, okay.
So you said you were kind of ina funk at that time and feeling
really overwhelmed.
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How did that feel to you inparticular in your life?
Were you overwhelmed with workor personal, or what did your
overwhelm feel?
Jessie Weiss (04:06):
I felt overwhelmed , both personally and
professionally.
I thought I had problems thatwere unsolvable and too big to
even get started and so I feltat an impasse, like I guess this
is my life now I'm just goingto be stuck.
And in the past I even didcognitive behavioral therapy.
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I did regular therapy.
I'm on anxiety and depressionmedicine.
Like I was like what else couldI try?
So I was almost at my wits endon what could I do to try
something else and I was like,well, I'll give this a try.
I tried all these other thingsand haven't really had fast
improvement.
So the feeling was I hatesaying the feeling was
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overwhelmed, but it was a lossof hope.
I just didn't think that.
I thought this is where I amright now and wouldn't have any
improvement.
Michelle Gauthier (05:01):
Yes, okay.
So thank you so much for sharingthat, and I think that's really
going to resonate with peoplewho are listening, because when
the feeling is overwhelmed, it'sto me that just means it's too
big.
Everything is too big, theproblem feels too big and you
can't just say, okay, I'm goingto go solve overwhelm today.
It's just, it doesn't work thatway because it's too big, and
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you know now from going throughthe program.
But if people are listening andare like I don't even know how
to begin to solve this, thefirst thing is calling what it
is it's overwhelm and thennoticing that when you think
about solving it, it just feelstoo big.
And when it feels too big, youdo nothing, you start to just
accept and feel hopeless aboutit, which is such a sad place to
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be.
I know I felt super stuck whenit was me thinking okay, I chose
this, I chose this life formyself, I chose this career, I
really wanted to have kids andthis is just how it has to feel.
But it's not true, is it?
It's not true at all.
Yes, yes, okay.
So you were really skeptical inthe first meeting.
So we have 12 sessions foreverybody listening.
We have 12 sessions foreverybody listening.
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We have 12 sessions.
So on the first one, you werelike I don't know about this,
this seems weird.
When did you have a moment thatyou're like, oh, I actually
feel kind of better.
Jessie Weiss (06:12):
I think it was.
You know, I had my book infront of me and I think it was
lesson four.
Well, yeah, because before thatwe did some meditating and
vision boards and I was likethis lady is crazy, but I will
do everything she says Because Iwanted to have the backup.
Like I did everything you saidand it didn't work.
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So that was like I'm going tofollow what she said and have
this as proof.
But it happened in lesson four,which was what is in and out of
your control, and I don't knowwhat happened.
It like clicked something in mybrain and I just started
thinking about so many of thethings that were maybe upsetting
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me in my life were out of mycontrol and I was starting like
I could just feel those thingsfalling away from me and weights
falling off of me, and thatreally started kind of the
turnaround.
So it did take till the fourthlesson for a glimmer of hope to
happen.
Yes, and and when we started, Ithink after that we started
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focusing on our feelings and notour thoughts, and that was also
very eye-opening because Iremember we had to share what
are your thoughts about?
Your problem and my problem wasabout you know I can't lose
weight and I remember sayingsome of my thoughts out loud and
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you said back Jessie, would youtalk to your best friend like
that?
Would you say those things toyour best friend?
Like no, I wouldn't.
Why am I saying these to myself?
And like fireworks went off, itwas just why am I doing this?
Michelle Gauthier (07:56):
Yes, yes, and so I think those two things you
said right there focusing onwhat's in versus out of your
control, and realizing, wow,these things that are out of my
control are having a lot ofpower over me right now.
They're really making me feeloverwhelmed, and I think it's
important to point out that,like, let's just say, you were
really stressed out about workand something was out of your
control.
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Nothing changed about youractual work.
So it's not like the worldaround you has to change or you
have to change all these hugethings in your life.
It was a shift in your thinkingthat really made you feel so
much better, and same with theshift in your thinking about why
am I talking to myself likethis?
And it's not like we wake up inthe morning and think you know
what?
I'm going to be really crappyto myself today, I'm going to
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really shame myself.
But it just becomes a pattern,an unconscious pattern, and
until we take the time toinvestigate it and work on it,
it just stays with us and itmakes me so sad to think about
how women talk to themselves.
Jessie Weiss (08:58):
It made me sad to look back on it because I even I
wrote down in there like wouldI say this to my best friend,
and I remember like I physicallywrote down you're a lazy POS.
It's like, yeah, I was tellingmyself that all the time.
No wonder I wasn't feeling good.
Michelle Gauthier (09:09):
Yes, exactly, and like is that the thing
that's going to motivate you?
No, but I do think sometimesthat that's our intention, Like
I have to really be mean tomyself in order to motivate
myself, but it doesn't work.
Jessie Weiss (09:24):
No definitely not.
No, it definitely does not.
Michelle Gauthier (09:26):
Okay, let's pause on the vision board part,
where you were like this lady iscrazy.
I'm just going to do this sothat I can say I did everything.
At the end I do have to say,just as a side note, I have an
actual guarantee on the program,like if you go through the
program and you do everythingevery lesson and you're like I
didn't get any change, Iliterally will give people their
money back.
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I'm like just come and try itand do the thing and if it
doesn't work, I'll give you yourmoney back.
I've never had to give anybodytheir money back, but I
appreciate you telling us thetruth about how you thought that
was really weird and wereskeptical of the whole thing.
Can you tell us a little bitabout what was on your vision
board and kind of how you feltwhen you were making that,
because you'd never made onebefore?
Jessie Weiss (10:07):
Right, I've never made a vision board before and I
carry it around in my officebag with me or my work bag all
this time now because I likelooking at it.
Michelle Gauthier (10:18):
Which I love it.
She didn't help it up, you guysaren't on video, but I just got
to see a peek of it again, Ilove it.
Jessie Weiss (10:25):
And the biggest problem.
I decided not to focus on itbecause you had us radar
problems one, two and three andI said number one is basically
impossible, and that was Iwanted to move to Florida and
keep my job and work remotely.
I said that's not even going tohappen, so I'm not even going
to focus on, focus on and Idecided to focus on being a
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healthier version of myself.
And then, lo and behold, I onmy vision board.
I put all of the Florida thingsthat I wanted to have happen
and said you know, this is thearea I want to live, this is my
favorite restaurant there, so Iwant my backyard to look like.
And on a trip to Florida, wefound our dream house and we
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found out that we got it at therestaurant that I had on my
vision board.
Michelle Gauthier (11:14):
It's just beyond amazing and that was
crazy.
The house that you had on thereeven looks similar to the house
that you actually bought.
That was so crazy.
And this is all in a 12 weekperiod.
And then what happened withwork?
Jessie Weiss (11:29):
All of it fell into place.
I came up with a plan, Ipresented it to my manager.
It all got approved withinagain that 12 week time period.
So I'm moving the end of Junedown to Florida and I'll be
coming back quarterly for workwith the same job.
And I literally thought thatwas an impossible task or
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possible problem.
It could not be solved.
And so I said I'm not evengoing to solve it.
And you gave me the tools toreally change my mindset during
the course.
Like this is possible and Ihave goosebumps right now.
I feel so corny saying that,but like I envisioned it and
made it happen and I reallythink it happened because of the
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change in my thoughts andmindset on it.
Michelle Gauthier (12:18):
Yes, absolutely.
I think that's definitely true,and it's so cool that, even
though that was kind of a side,you put that as a side thing to
work on the tools that you werelearning, and just the way you
started looking at and thinkingabout your life, like, for
example, it was in your controlto ask if you could work
remotely.
It wasn't in your control todecide if that was going to
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happen or not.
So I just think that's soawesome that you know, as an
added side bonus, you've got thehouse in Florida and you get to
keep your job.
That's just amazing.
so, even though you wereskeptical, you stuck with it
Jessie Weiss (12:51):
and I even had one more funny thing about the
vision board, another thing Iput on there was a picture of me
and my husband.
We don't have kids.
We have 10 nieces and nephewsand I put a picture of us out to
dinner with our three oldestnephews and niece and that was
like my favorite dinner.
They asked me to dinner toteach them about etiquette,
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which I think I mean it's cuteand I love etiquette, and so I
thought that was a one and donething.
And then at Easter they askedme to do it again.
So we're doing it again in acouple of weeks and I was like
I'm such a believer in thevision board I put, I put that
out there.
I didn't ask them about it,they came to me and I just think
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that I am sending out differentvibes to the world, that I am
like a happier person yes, thatthat is helping me in my work
and personal life.
Michelle Gauthier (13:45):
That is so wonderful, wonderful, like, yeah
, you're sending out the vibesof I'm open, I'm available to do
these things, I'm happy.
And it is funny.
I read this.
This was in a Martha Beck book.
She did this experiment whereshe got herself into a really
bad mood and feeling and energyand went to a coffee shop and
just observed how strangersinteracted with her, versus
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being like what you're talkingabout, where she felt happy and
open and whatever, and withouteven talking to people, just the
way people talk to her andtreated her.
It's like we're giving off asignal and that signal is
something.
And if you're thinking, I don'tknow what my signal is right
now, it's very powerful tointentionally create the type of
signal that you want to have tobe in the type of energy you
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want to have.
That's great.
I love that.
That's such a great story.
So what would you say was thebest thing that you learned?
Jessie Weiss (14:36):
Besides manifesting my life on a vision
board.
Outside of that, yeah yeah, thebest thing I learned, and I
really try to do, is focusing onthe wins.
Even when I have what I thinkmight be considered a bad day, I
usually can find a win in thatbad day and that really lifts my
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spirits and I've tried toincorporate that just into my
daily practice.
On focusing on the win so thatwas the best thing.
On the wind, so that was thebest thing.
I also learned a few mantrasthat I try to say before
responding to things and likewould I volunteer my time and
energy for this?
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If the answer is no, maybe Ishouldn't do that.
Also, you taught us you don'tneed to reply to an email or
text message right away, and ifI do feel the need that I had to
reply right away, I can alwayssay thank you.
Let me think about it, becausethat was something I was over
committing my time to things byalways saying yes, and now I'm
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trying to take a pause andreally focusing on does this fit
what I want to accomplish withmy life?
Michelle Gauthier (15:46):
Yes, that's perfect.
And why do you think you usedto say yes right away?
Jessie Weiss (15:52):
People pleaser number one.
Although some other girls inour group also fit that
description.
Yes, yes, we were all peoplepleasing and I just said yes to
everything, and now I really trynot to.
I just said yes to everythingand now I really try not to.
And it's funny that you saythat my manager even commented
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on me and she goes good for youfor saying no to this.
I'm so proud of you here.
I was my thoughts.
She's going to hate me forsaying no and the exact opposite
happened.
Michelle Gauthier (16:42):
Like I'm so proud of you for saying no to
this and you explained that itjust doesn't fit with your time
right now.
They know you know that they'recoming from a place where they
investigate it.
They thought about what theywant their answer to be and then
they tell you and that justfeels good.
As the receiver, too, I thinkwe're all.
We always have this thoughtthat if I say no, they're going
to be upset, mad, think I'm notresponsible enough, not a team
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player.
You know all these thoughtsthat we have about ourselves.
That's great, great.
So before you could, youlearned how to take that pause,
but before you could actuallystart saying no, we had to
investigate the people pleasing,which is, of course, one of our
lessons in there as well.
Yes, okay, great.
And what was your favoritething about the coaching?
Jessie Weiss (17:24):
Well, I really enjoyed the group aspect of the
coaching.
I thought I was the only crazyperson and I thought I was the
only one having these thoughts.
I'm overwhelmed.
I can't get started withanything Like.
Sometimes I would just come towork and sit here.
I couldn't physically getstarted on doing anything.
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Well, it turns out thathappened to everyone in our
group.
I didn't realize that I neededthe empathetic emotions coming
towards me as much as going awayfrom me.
I didn't realize how badly Ineeded that, to not feel alone
in my thoughts.
Michelle Gauthier (18:08):
And.
Jessie Weiss (18:09):
I really thought I was the only person struggling
with this, and then to find outeveryone was struggling with
pretty similar issues.
Again, it made I keep talkingabout this weight being lifted
off of me, but it made me feelso much better to not be alone.
Michelle Gauthier (18:25):
Yes.
Jessie Weiss (18:26):
Yes.
Michelle Gauthier (18:27):
Oh, that's so awesome.
And one of the things that atthe end of coaching I do a
survey and I ask people you knowkind of what happened and what
other people they admire in thegroup.
And something that I noticed inall the responses is each
member said, oh, so-and-soreached out to me individually
to encourage me when I washaving a bad day.
So everybody kind of starts tolook out for the other ones as
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well.
So you're getting all thisgreat empathy and feedback and
you're giving it, and there'sjust something about knowing
that you're not alone.
That is so freeing.
Then you can be vulnerable, thenyou can ask for encouragement.
I've seen you do that, whereyou're like okay, guys, I need
you to give me some goodfeedback on this.
I'm having a hard day, orwhatever it is, and I think
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that's so awesome.
Jessie Weiss (19:12):
A safe space was created and I felt safe to share
my personal issues with thatgroup and receive the
encouragement and it was nicethat everyone wasn't just giving
advice, it was we hear you, weknow what you're going through.
It's okay to feel that way.
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It's not okay to have thosenegative thoughts.
It's okay to feel that way andthat was very comforting to me.
Michelle Gauthier (19:39):
Yes, yes, agreed.
So, overall, how would you sayyour life is different from 12
weeks ago?
Jessie Weiss (19:51):
from 12 weeks ago, I would say.
Overall, I'm really trying tofocus on consistency instead of
perfection, and that is veryhelpful to me, I would say.
My negative self-talk hasdrastically decreased, which I
think makes me a lot happier ofa person, and I really try to
look for the wins, even in toughsituations.
Michelle Gauthier (20:11):
Now that the group is over, do you see
yourself being able to continuein those practices?
Jessie Weiss (20:18):
Yes, I do see myself continuing in these
practices even though our 12weeks has ended, because one I
still work with those six otherladies.
So that's super helpful that Ifeel like I have this embedded
support system now and now thatI see how my life and attitude
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has changed, it's motivation tonot go back to the way it was.
Yes, yes.
Michelle Gauthier (20:43):
And just like we have bad habits when we
develop good ones, they justbecome habits too.
One of my clients just said tome this week I was in a really
stressful situation but I justdidn't get stressed out and I
just turned it into a positiveand I handled it.
She said I don't know how thathappened.
I was like, well, because youpracticed a whole bunch, and
then now where it used to bethat you know you'd feel
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overwhelmed and not do your jobor whatever it was, now it just
automatically switches to themore positive path.
So I think that's the greatthing too, that the skills can
keep on going and anytime youneed like a brush up or a touch
up, you can reach out to yourgroup members, you can listen to
the podcast, you can read aself-help book like there's so
much available once you startopening your eyes to this world.
Jessie Weiss (21:27):
Yes, and I love that you gave us a physical
notebook or workbook to gothrough, because I leave it on
my desk and it does help me.
I wrote in the margins allsorts of helpful tips, and so
just re-looking at those hashelped me along the way too.
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
Michelle Gauthier (21:44):
Great, ok, I'm going to switch to ask you
the two questions that I alwaysask everyone.
That's awesome, great.
Okay, I'm going to switch toask you the two questions that I
always ask everyone on thepodcast, but before I do, is
there anything else that Ididn't ask you about coaching or
anything you want to say?
Jessie Weiss (21:55):
I would just encourage anyone who is doubtful
about group coaching orcoaching in general, to give it
a chance and actually go throughwith the exercises, even if
they may seem silly to you,because, as Michelle mentioned,
no one has come out of it nothaving a positive experience.
So, even if you go in with abad mindset, I really think that
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Michelle and her program willswitch that mindset for you and
make your life all the betterfor it.
Michelle Gauthier (22:24):
Oh, thank you , I appreciate that and I'm
really appreciative of you beingso honest that you were like
this is crazy, she's crazy, thisis silly.
That's helpful.
It really is helpful, because Ithink we always have a little
bit of doubt about something,especially when it's weird, like
a vision.
Jessie Weiss (22:43):
When you're asking me like what did I smell on my
ideal day of?
Like this is on some other drug.
Michelle Gauthier (22:50):
Maybe I need to be on it Like she seems
suspiciously happy though.
So maybe, but I wrote down thesmell.
Well, when you get to Floridaand you get to your new house
and that smells in there, youcould be like I smell that beach
.
Jessie Weiss (23:02):
I'm happy yeah that's right.
Michelle Gauthier (23:04):
That is a very specific smell, like that
salty.
There's just something.
I can totally conjure it up.
All right, and here are the twoquestions that I ask everyone
who comes on the podcast Numberone what's something that you
can do to make yourself feelless overwhelmed?
Jessie Weiss (23:19):
I try my very best to not think about work when
I'm not at work, and if I dothink about work, I email myself
whatever that thought is andlet it go Wow that's great to
think about it after.
Michelle Gauthier (23:35):
That is such a great idea.
So how do you catch yourself inthe moment Like, oh wait, I'm
thinking about work, when Ican't Well it?
Jessie Weiss (23:43):
almost happens to me every day in the shower in
the mornings.
Okay, it's like my to-do listgoes off and right when I get
out of the shower I just emailmyself those things and it's
gone.
And so I really try to say, hey, jessie, things and it's gone.
And so I really try to say, hey, jessie, don't ruminate on what
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your to-do list is, put it outthere so you can work on it
later, but you don't need tothink about it right now when
you're getting ready.
Michelle Gauthier (24:09):
That's such a good tip because if you just
had it in your mind in theshower all the way, getting
ready, driving to work, all thatstuff, you're not doing
anything.
You're just wasting your braintime on something.
Yes, yes, one of my clientsjust told me the other day that
she takes her phone in theshower in case she has to like
answer a text or send herself anemail.
I was like please stop doingthat.
(24:30):
So when you said in the shower,I was like please tell me you
also don't have your phone inthe shower.
I'm glad to hear yours issitting to the side.
Nothing is so urgent that itneeds to be answered in the
shower.
I don't think I agree with you.
Oh my gosh.
And then what's something youconsistently do to save time or
do less?
Jessie Weiss (24:50):
I started this during our group coaching
session.
I started to pay for a mealplanning service and it sends me
a weekly calendar with healthymeals and the recipes, and it
also comes with a pre-formedgrocery list that I can also
edit like if I already havesomething in the fridge.
It literally saves me atminimum four hours every week
(25:16):
and before I was spending somuch time researching recipes
making my grocery list.
Now it's all done for me andI'm much happier.
That's amazing.
Michelle Gauthier (25:26):
Is it a?
Should we share the name?
Is there like a particularservice you would recommend it's
called the Bean Collective?
Okay, the Bean Collective.
I will put that in the shownotes in case anybody wants to
take a look at that.
That's great thing to share.
You know you mentioned thatyour number one goal was to
become a healthier version ofyourself, and we talked a lot
about the mental part ofbecoming a healthier version of
yourself, but we didn't reallytalk about your results on this
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front of like eating healthier.
I remember you did a challengelike a nutrition challenge.
Do you want to talk about thata little bit?
Jessie Weiss (25:56):
Yes, that was through the being Collective.
I did a 28-day challenge wherewe had educational components
and also you follow this eatingprogram.
I'm actually doing a 10-weekchallenge with them coming up
because I found it so helpful.
I need to be on a plan.
I found out to lose weight, andso this has been very helpful
(26:21):
to me because I don't need totrack anything.
I'm not good at that.
I just follow what they put infront of me and I don't have to
do any other additional mentallegwork for it.
Michelle Gauthier (26:30):
That is great , oh my gosh.
So you get the email, you eat,you don't have to track it, you
just eat what you make and thenthat's it.
Jessie Weiss (26:39):
Yes, how do you feel?
I do feel a lot better becausethere's been a gap between the
two programs and I don't thinkit was made a habit after just
those 28 days.
So I fell off of it and nowthat I'm back on doing the meal
planning, I feel so much better.
A lot more energy, sleepingbetter, and I think that my
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mantra from the goal of gettinghealthier.
I have severe plantar fasciitisso I really love walking, but
it is super painful for me rightnow.
I'm working super hard througha chiropractor, podiatrist,
stretching, to get that better,but I keep reminding myself
you're working towards it.
(27:21):
Don't be hard on yourself like,hey, you can't exercise right
now.
Focus on healthy eating and anddon't be hard on yourself, your
foot will get better eventuallyand then you can get back on
track with the exercising.
Michelle Gauthier (27:34):
I love that.
That's so great.
It's a perfect example ofwhat's in your control.
You're doing all the thingsthat are in your control.
You're seeing the right people,you're making the healthy foods
, you're trying to move towardsit and your plantar fasciitis
healing is out of your controland hopefully it's happening,
but you're doing everything youcan do to get it that way.
So that's a great example.
I love that and I love that youcame to know about yourself
(27:57):
that you do better on a programand that you don't really like
to track stuff every day.
And that is so important too.
To be like I don't care whatworked for somebody else.
I have to think about me andknow me and do what feels best
to me.
Jessie Weiss (28:10):
That's right and that made me really close with
another girl in our group.
She also dislikes trackingthings.
In our group she also dislikestracking things.
We were laughing about familymembers who would try to, in
their way, encourage us to trackthings and we talked about that
in the group coaching sayinghey, let them have their advice,
but I don't need to accept it.
Michelle Gauthier (28:32):
Yes, that was also very helpful.
Let them was a big phrase weused a lot in our coaching.
Jessie Weiss (28:39):
Actually my girlfriends, and I say that to
each other now, oh that's sogreat, I love it.
Michelle Gauthier (28:44):
I love it, and your award from group
coaching was the queen of wins,that's right.
Yeah, because Jesse was the onewho we go around and say wins
every time to get ourselves inthe mindset of noticing the good
in our life, and she would belike, just a second, let me get
out my list.
And she'd have this whole giantlist of wins and in doing so,
(29:05):
inspired everybody else in thegroup to really focus on their
wins and start writing them downduring the week, because a lot
of times people would say I knowI had some, but I can't
remember, and Jessie would belike let me get out my 17 item
list of all the great thingsthat happened to me this week.
So you were very inspiring andit was so great to have you in
the group.
Jessie Weiss (29:24):
It makes a big difference.
Thank you.
I saw a change not only inmyself but also the six other
women in the group andeveryone's change in mindset.
I don't want to say everyonehad a negative mindset, but I do
think that everyone came outmore positive than they were to
begin with.
Yeah, absolutely.
It was easy to see that.
Michelle Gauthier (29:43):
Yes, supposedly I don't remember
where I read this, butsupposedly like 90 something
percent of the thoughts in ourhead are by default negative.
So it's most likely that unlessyou've worked on it, you have
that negative mindset.
But once you've gone through it, then you have your little
tribe, your posse of people whohave done the same thing.
Then you guys can have yoursecret positive club at work, oh
(30:06):
my gosh.
Well, thank you so much forbeing on.
It was great to see you and itwas so great having you in the
group, and I appreciate yousharing your experience with the
audience.
Thank you.
Jessie Weiss (30:15):
Thank you for having me.
I was honored to be asked.
Michelle Gauthier (30:18):
That's a wrap for today.
I hope you enjoyed hearingJessie's story.
I know I did, and I absolutelylove that she was able to change
her life by changing the waythat she was thinking about
things and taking new actions.
If you're feeling a nudge orthis is appealing to you, the
first step is to set up a callwith me, a quick 15 minute call.
I like to have a call witheveryone before group coaching
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so that we can make sure thatit's a great fit and that you
can ask any questions before youcommit and say yes to joining.
So if you'd like to do that, Iwould love to talk to you.
I have lots of spots blockedoff this week.
For that time, as we have groupcoaching open for registration
this week, there is a link inthe show notes and I would
absolutely love to talk to you.
Have a great week.
(31:01):
Thank you for listening to theOverwhelmed Working Woman
podcast.
If you want to learn more aboutmy work, head over to my
website at michellegothiercom.
See you next week.
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