2023 Week Four Review: Gophers Meltdown at Northwestern, Coaches Gone Wild!

The guys try to make sense of what happened to the Gophers during the 4th quarter of their loss at Northwestern, examining all 3 phases and the mistakes they made giving up a 21 point lead. They also run through the Big Ten West and play a few examples of how college coaches went wild in the media this weekend and some wanted ALL THE SMOKE!

Episode Transcript

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Glenn Mason sent a long time agoat the University of Minnesota, Need a
Pair and a Spare. Thank you, PJ. It is time for another
edition of The Pair and a Sparepodcast. Justin Guard from the Fan,
Chips Scoggins from the Star Tribune,Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot com.
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it, guys. Where do westart reviewing Gophers and Northwestern? An electric
atmosphere in that night game, Burns, E, I know you were excited
to be there. Dozens of peopleended up storming the field after. I

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never felt like I was in anydanger. You were the chemistry students flying
by me or journalism students. ButI've been on some field storms before,
never won quite like that. Howare we doing? What do we think
we got some anger in this town? Still? Yeah, it's just a
depocle, is what the entire fourthquarter was, And just gives you vibes

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that no one wants. We'll saythat. But you had dozens and dozens
of students. Yeah, we youthought the atmosphere was going to be electric,
Just like, what do you thinkI'm terrible at this game? How
many fans do you think? Therewere? Actually at the end, not
very many, more than I thoughtfor the balance of the first you take
out the freshman class. Who whyyou got to take them out just because

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they got a free ticket. It'snot there. They've never seen I've never
seen somebody sprint across the field.They were like doing forties. Yeah,
there was plenty of I would sayempty. It was empty with dirty game.
But I was surprised, honestly therewere that many people anyway, but
like, well, no, atthe beginning, like ten to ten,

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it was actually pretty full on eachside stopping. It was just because the
ends weren't full. I mean,there was more than I thought there would
be. At the end there wasn'tthat many. But they were celebrating a
third thirty four Northwestern victory. Wementioned the golfers were up thirty one ten.
Still not quite sure how everything thatneeded to go wrong did go wrong
on all three phases. We've gota lot to unpack. But Chipper,

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you haven't gotten to speak yet becauseBurns. He's just complaining about the crowd
and the students and the fact thatit was ten o'clock at night. Yeah,
that's we've seen a lot in ourday, seeing a lart in our
day. That's one of the worstI've seen. You can't lose again.
I mean that that's the kind ofloss that damages credibility. It's a kind
of loss that makes the people onthe fence about your program jump off the

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fence and say it makes the peoplethat don't like the head coach's personality,
gives them ammunition to fire shots,which we've seen ad nauseum, which anyway,
exactly, I don't really worry aboutthose people, but but it just
contributes to the whole perception of theprogram. And we you hear PJ talking

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all camp about this team has testedstronger than any team they've had. They've
done this more than any team they'veever had. They're the most connected they've
ever had. It builds this uhperception that this he and he you know,
in fairness, he does says itdoesn't guarantee you anything, but he
says, it's worked harder, They'vedone this, they've done that, and

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then you have a performance like that. You know, it just it rings
hollow, It does. I meanthat the defense is a mess right now.
The conservative nature of PJ came backout the special teams. You know,
I don't want to pick on theone kid because I'm sure he's embarrassed
by what happened is getting played everywherenationally. That's you know, that's you

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don't want to pick on one guy. But that's the kind of loss that
you know, like I said,just it makes people look at your program
differently. Do you agree Burnsey worstloss? I think it's I think it's
worse than Bowling Green reminds me ofbecause you're up thirty one ten. Yeah,
it's supposed to be an easy nightat the park, and for three
quarters they pretty much handled what theywere supposed to and then just completely crumbled.

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It's Maryland twenty twenty if people rememberthat game, You're up three scores
in the fourth quarter on the road, in the big ten and losing overtime.
Yeah, that one felt more chaoticthe entire time, though, because
wasn't it like forty five forty twoor forty. I'll look up the score.
I think they're up. I knowthey were up at least seventeen and
the fourth ye but the point remains. I mean, I guess we start
with offense. But I'm tired ofblaming the offensive coordinator for this because we've

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seen now we're in year seven,whether it was Kirk Sharaka, then Mike
Sandford, then Kirk Sharrok and nelGreg Harbow. What the more things change,
the more things stay the same.And I truly believe it is just
the head coach in the second half, overriding whatever offensive game plan that they
had coming into the day and sayingin the second half, we're gonna run

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left, run, ride pass onthird down short of sticks, which he
was living about yesterday, which hewas living about it the first one with
Daniel Jackson and Ethan. I meanthey got talked to immediately basically going what
are we doing here? Guys?I getting to your point justin I mean,
everything that could go wrong did gowrong, and that's obviously not ideal,
but offensively, how many more timesare we going to have to have

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a game like this until the headcoach finally sees something like what the Miami
Dolphins are doing and well, andto me is you can coach that way
if you have a typical Joe ROSSIdefense. This is not a typical Joe
ross doesn't appear to be. Andthat's what we'll see if he changes,
if he realizes that, because hesaid to me post game, I'm playing

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it thinking we're gonna get some stopsbecause that's what we usually do. And
they you know, in the firsthalf they did until the adr touchdown,
that was almost half of their production. Second half not as much. It
was a little sloppy, they weren'tin the same spots all of that,
and then obviously the wheels came off. That's going to be my question for
him today. It's like, doyou like you have a defense at the
moment that you can play like youwant to play, which is due the

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trustle of deference will get to him, you know, the way that Big
ten teams have historically won, becausehe doesn't at the moment, they don't
have that ability to just choke agame out like they've done in the past.
I'm sure he's going to tell youthat they do, because that's what
he has to say. Publicly.Yeah, that's probably true, but Chip,
I mean they don't. They've givenup eight hundred and ten passing yards
in the last two weeks, andthey just gave up four hundred passing yards

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to a kid who had thrown forfour hundred and eight passing yards in his
first three games combined. Yeah,and I look back at it because I
was looking at a stat yesterday,because why else would I look at stats?
Last year that defense gave up fourplays over forty yards total for the
season. That's you've given up threein the last two weeks, right,
So it's it's and that's been JoeROSSI'SMO. We don't give up explosive plays,

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right, that's their whole he says, that's the number one U Staton
football. So but go back tothe office. You do wonder because of
calleg Mans's inaccuracy, because of thedrops that we continue to see, and
now because they have a stud runningback that they're gonna run thirty whatever times

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the game, whose status is nowwho's now injured? But are we gonna
go back to the MO offense?You don't have Darius Taylor. Peason loved
Debryce Williams. He ain't it.Yeah, And if you don't have Darius
Taylor this weekend, I wish SeanTyler did he imagine if Alexander Madison and

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t J. Hockenson got this treatment, they'd be out of the league.
What happened? I mean, hefumbled twice and over we have seen.
I think that's it's really well.I'm guessing they'll mix him back in at
some point, especially Zach Evans traveled. Yeah, but it's it's clear that
and Darres Taylor's really nice player,but it's it's it'd be good to get
him a break. Yeah, it'dbe good to get him a couple of

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series off and let somebody else runfor a minute and develop some other people
in case that's where again, ifhe can't, just great podcast. It's
a way of football life. It'sa way of football lights right. Well,
offensively, I don't the first halfI think was exactly what we were
looking for. They were moving theball around. You know, the numbers
got a little skewed because they didwhat you're supposed to. When they get

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a turnover, they get a greatplay by the defense. They scored the
next play, Yeah, touchdown.Lamecki Brockington, like, that's exactly what
you're supposed to do. So theeight for eight, he's perfect. The
second touchdown to Daniel Jackson, right, it was a good one, like
you were running like everything we hadasked. And then even three in the
red zone with touchdowns. It's amazing. And then they start the second half
throwing the ball and we're all sayinghallelujh and everybody. We're working on it,

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modern offense. We're trying to dothis, And so that's where I'm
sure Pj's also kicking himself. He'slike, man, things were pretty good
there for a minute and then theyjust they just went it went wrong way.
It went run, run, short, throw, short of sticks.
I mean, I think it waslike two or three possessions in the fourth.
Well, you talk about the waythat they came out to start the
second half. Fleck has mentioned iton Saturday with US, mentioned it yesterday

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with US about how they complete thefirst pass and then they throw a three
straight and complete. She's like,I looked up, there was forty two
seconds off the clock. Yeah,it's just like I feel the nineteen eighties
aren't here anymore. PJ. Ifyou want to work on it. You
gotta work on it, because onebad thing happens, you can't pull the
plug, especially when your defense continuesto implode. And I don't know what's

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going on with span Forward. Iknow you've got to get him going.
I mean, you just have tothe drops. I don't know if they're
in his head, if it's somethingwhat's going on. But he's too good
a player and too much of atarget, yeah for him to play this
way. And then they've got toget him going because I think the offense

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could be a lot different if heis more trustworthy than he is right now.
Runs a three yard route and thirdand five that can't happen as a
third down and overtime. Yeah,the throws a little late, Yeah,
the throws a little high, butyou're still bring it in six seven tight
and got no, you gotta catchit. But it was high but his
but you gotta catch. That's whatif I hear PJ. Fleck with Rerevin

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span Ford said the word catch radiusone more time. Yeah, he's got
a big catch radius, but it'sjust a radius right now, and they
got to figure out how to turnit back into a catch radius because that
it was late a little bit becausepressure, ething got pressure and had because
he was open a long time.Yeah, yeah, you gotta catch it.

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Yeah. I mean the only solacewith the offense outside of Darius Taylor
looking incredible again, is Ethan finallyfinally rebounded. He Yeah. I mean,
if you think he ate everything onhis plate, I thought he played
pretty well. You love the eighton the plate thing, you say multiple
times here, this is ate everythingon his place. This is a football
guy football, this is Jack's cafe. Eat everything on your play hashtag watch

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a tape, you know, I'mone of the football guys grinding. So
what what was on his plate?What did he eat? A lot less
than what maybe they had anticipated thefirst few games of the year, what
they had seen in spring and infall camp, and so they lessen the
load. I think he then respondedthe way he did. Yeah, he
missed him throws, but I thinkhe would played a lot better lessen to
load in terms of what they're askingto do. I think so, I

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think simplify things for him. ButI mean, especially if Darius Taylor is
going to be out, which,what do we think about that? I
think it's hilarious seems like he waswalking around okay after but who knows what
the injury is? Correct? Imean I think I got the TV copy.
I mean they didn't even well.That was one of the things that

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I had to answer about until weget everything all the time. But come
on, guys, he's only thebest player. Like I've had to answer
that question about forty times, whetherit's Goph Illustrated or Twitter. They were
like, is Darius Taylor hurt?Because they didn't say anything on the TV
broadcast? Wow, how do youmiss that one? Probably the best player
on the field gets rolled up onthat third down. But that's where I'm

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so it's looking forward to Louisian withthis offense. What does it look like
if Darius Taylor can't go? Imean, are they just gonna chuck and
a rounding? You just got fiftytimes? Yeah? Yeah? Really get
do the reverse Eastern Michigan. Ohyeah, fifty six passes. It's gonna
take four hours, but let's go. But you do I mean I would
probably do that. But if you'rea coach, you have to develop someone

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other than Darius Taylor. I mean, you can't go down the stretch here
thinking it's one running back and afreshman at that who hasn't been through a
grind like this before, especially Burnsley. Like you said, it's not like
Sean Tyler has just started playing runningback. He's been a productive Mid American
conference running back who clearly has sometype of value. Yeah, it's almost
like running for over a thousand yardsand back to back here and just sorry

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and just because he wasn't on theinjury report, right, No, no,
which if he was banged up andhe's not on the injury report all
public Reck liked. He was fine. He was there. I mean he
was talking to the running backs,he was hanging out, and Zach Evans
was there, same thing. ButI think we just keep I think we
have to stress the listeners as this. It's not the offensive coordinator with the

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second half, if you want yourvery upset about it. Looked squarely at
Philip John Fleck for continuing to dothings like that. The head coach controls
everything the way he wants it run, especially on an offensive coordinator, on
a PJ. Flecker, probably underany head coach, it's not good to
just dictate how the game flow goes. That's a head coach thing. Give

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Brian Ferrets that same Grace Burnsey.That's what I've been saying for three years.
I've been saying that for three years, and now all of a sudden,
Hey, it's the head coach's fault. Brian Ferrets wants to talk,
all right, because he's got apretty powerful head coach too. The drive
for was it three twenty five tooka little took it a little bit of
a day in that fourth quarter Becausewe've heard the word poise. If I

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hear one more time this year,I think my heads going explode. Yeah.
Was there poison that sideline when thatthing was unraveling in the fourth quarter?
Or is it hard to judge that? What I'll say is defensively early
there was not early in the fourthyes, okay? Or in the in
the tight half they play seventy fiveyard touchdown drive. Yeah, they weren't
happy about that. Yeah, rightaround there they were all mad, and

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the one before they were mad.But then after it might have been after
the three play one, I thinkthey did just say, hey, we
got to just relax here because we'reand I think I said that on the
radio. Were they were frantic,Well not frantic, but just people are
mad, people are missing assignments,they're not doing what they're supposed to do,
just all the little things that annoysguys. And it wasn't anything like

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controversy whatever, but guys are comingover going what what are we doing?
What's happening? Why weren't you there? Why was I hear those things?
The after one of the touchdowns,it was just everybody take a breath,
like we're fine, Like let's figureout what we need to do. But
and offensively, I don't know.I don't think I was around the offense
much because they were back. Theywere back out there because the defense gave

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up the gave up the bass soquickly, like there was a long drive
which I was watching, then therewas the short drive by the go for
So offensively, I'm not exactly sure, yeah, I'm not exactly. But
defensively there was there were people going, what's going on out here? It
was like to pivot a defensively whenyou watched that second half, it was

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it was just kind of misplays thatthey were in there, bad tackling,
wrong spot, obviously, double movesthey're biting on. It was just all
the little things that they never getwrong. They got wrong on all of
them. It seemed like guys thatwere going for a tackle and you think
they're going to get it, thenthe guy gets six extra yards and like
in the first down, right,what right? You just don't see that
from a rossy defense. That's whereyou look at the first three quarters.
And I know the scoreboard says youonly allowed ten points, but think about

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on the amount of explosive plays theyeither just missed Northwestern they went deep a
couple of times, or that we'recalled back because of self inflicted wounds by
a Northwestern getting a holding penalty ora personal file penalty. They were a
ton of penalties. They weren't playingwell, but it didn't show up on
the scoreboard until the fourth quarter.And that's the issue is for all the
offensive issues. If you score thirtyone points in a big ten game,

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you should win it correct, especiallyagainst Western and the way PJ wants to
play this thing, which is thething, the number one thing we're all
going to see you going into thisLouisiana game is if you can't trust your
defense, you can't play the waythat you played that second half on offense,
right, you gotta keep pouring itup. I think it was probably
the most jarring is justin Wally gettingbeat on the double move. Yeah,

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Newban had a couple of tough sequences, your best players. It was it
was everybody. Yeah, I meanit was total. It was complete.
And while he can't catch a break, I mean he's out for multiple series
with some type of bicep thing.It looked like, well least it wasn't
cramps. I know, And Isay this, what's annoying is I had
a great hit all lined up forthe fourth quarter when they're up thirty one
ten. The Gophers set a recordfor number of times they use the injury

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tent as a bathroom on Saturday night. That was the most hydrated team in
the country. There's like fifteen guysthat when the tent was up every eight
seconds, I'm like, oh God, who is okay? Because that's what
they use it for. That's whatevery team uses it for. And it's
gross. I mean, the bags, it's not like it's just field turf
and you know you're on the woods. But I mean I was already I
had it dialed up, like hey, cramping things over. Every guy's going

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in there, no big deal,And so the parent of Spare gets that
exclusive scoop. Yeah, but that'swhere we started. I was sitting next
to Daniel House up in the pressbox and we didn't know that because right
before that final drive, Athan runsinto the injury tent. Yeah. Then
he comes out twenty seconds later.I'm like, oh, no, okay,
so he went in. What alwaysbothers me is when someone at a

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home game, I'll be waiting theother side and the spot or David Leatherman
will tell grim like, hey,the tent's up. I gotta go all
the way down there. And thenit's like, you know, waiting game,
Kade Conzemius going to the bathroom.You know, Justin's sun Like,
we couldn't you go why why arewe putting the tent up? Kade?
Now he hasn't done. That wasjust the first name that I thought.
But that's that's what happens. Ihad to go all the way back and

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turning up someone's just going to thebathroom. Man, That's just how it
was. But man, they werehydrated. I guess I never paid that
close attention to them. We paywhen a guy limps off. Yes,
yeah, the tent flies up andI'm like bathroom or injury bathroom or what
am I thinking? Where are thedoctors? I see like four doctors just
bathroom. Yeah, I'm not goingdown. I'm not going down there.

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What are we talking about against defense? Defense? But even he gets hurt
like again, like the guy hasn'thad a clean game, like injury cramping.
It's just they had so many opportunitieson that final Northwestern drive of regulation
to end it crazy, whether it'sKyler Ball getting a free shot at Ben
Bryant zooming past him and then BenBryan running horror first down as a couple

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of linebackers stop their feet and concretewhich can't happen. There's so many Ever,
there's so many times offense defense orspecial teams where I think schematic wise
it's fine, but a player needsto make a play and they were incapable
of making a play on offense defenseor special teams in that fourth Yeah.
I mean if you go out toNorth Carolina game, okay, you're facing

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a big time you know quarterback likethe players you saw this week, or
just so uncharacteristic what we're used tosee him from this defense is like now
you're one is that is is thepersonnel not capable of running what ROSSI wants
him to run. I think theyreally miss Lennenberger linebacker. Yeah, yeah,

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what's going on there? Yeah,well science seems like he had a
setback because Blake won't talk about it. Yeah, I'll tell you this.
He warmed up before North Carolina,didn't war him up before Northwestern, Yeah,
which is unfortunate. Now it's startingto look like a last season for
him, which you can argue.He's probably the second best player on that
defense. I would say he istheir second best. So Gophers are two

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and two. It doesn't get anyeasier. Michigan's coming up in a few
weeks. We're just gonna skip overspecial teams. They are young man.
No, just hold on, wellwe did we talked about it. I
mean the Quintin writing thing, Well, it's even the punt was six minutes
left. He punted into the theend zone. Yeah yeah, I was
giving you a little bit of areprieve. If people can't tell, I
mean, the energy is just wegot no energy, we got no vibe.

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We're gonna need some coaches to pumpus up here in a minute.
But mostly because there's so much youcan say, but there's also nothing to
say when everybody just had a handin this, Like there's not one thing
that you can just be mad aboutbecause it's just all of it was so
bad for fifteen minutes. Correct defensea little bit more because the offense came
out and you know, they getto touchdown that should be even though you

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know, as I mentioned on theradio, Brian Callahan was absolutely bitter about
the offensive line on that fourth andone because it should have been a loss
of two when Taylor housed it tomake it through. Everybody's going crazy and
Brian Callahan's going Jay saw Vel withhis headset just chucking it because his Yeah,
I mean that was all the runningback, yes, which is why
he's important. But you want totalk. But yeah, so we're scattered,

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We're all over the place because youcould pick any scenario in the last
fifteen to twenty minutes of game timeand go, if that goes differently,
the Gophers may probably win. Butit didn't. They well, they melted
down in all of the phases andeven go back before the punt. I
mean, yep, no one,what's your defense is? You know how
poorly they played and even if youthought that they weren't playing. You know

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you have to go for that.Why are you? Why are you punning
inside of the opponent's forty yard line. I guess let's go back to what
the head coach said yesterday, becausethat that that whole thing was even more
dead. That jumped out big timeto me. So you were there sitting
next to me. I was talkingit out. I might have been writing
some stuff, so talk it outbecause I saw the transcript text. So

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it's third and two. He's madat Darius Taylor describes how Darius Taylor shouldn't
have bounced it. You should havestayed inside the tackles and just grinded because
if they get positive yardage that goes, we would have went for it.
Yeah, he bounces it. It'sa tackle for loss. He goes,
I get on the headset with theoffense and I say what should I do
during the time out? Yep?During the time out, he goes,
what should I do? And theysay punt it? Pin him deep.

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So AKA, the offense doesn't feelconfident they got to play on fourth to
three at the thirty seven that theycan get this thing done. Even more
damning switches as the defense and hegoes, ROSSI, can you get a
stop? And ROSSI more or lesssays, we haven't stopped anybody all half.
According to the head coach, thisis what he said. The defensive
coordinator said, but you know what, we'll give it a try, and

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so flex like, you know what, I least he's honest. I want
to how the coordinators felt about that. Yeah, I can, but he's
like, you know what I chosethere? I chose neither. I just
decided to punt it because neither ofthem felt confident. So that's almost like
the head coach trying to cover forhimself to an extent there, which maybe
that is the actual conversation. Idon't doubt that that's what happened. But

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why are you airing that laundry?Well, if you're the offense, I
wish people can see. How canthe face the chips making? Man?
If everything is predicated on an eighteenyear old freshman running back, Yeah,
if you have no other options toget it first down, what are we
doing? It's true, That's what'sscary moving forward is there should be more

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there. I would think, Imean, you look at you look at
those guys. I mean Crooms isa nice player. I mean, he
helped him. Rights is nice.Daniel Jackson's nice. I think le Macki's
turning into a pretty good player.Macky's should be getting, not Michigan's defense.
You're going to get right is Northwestern. You can't get three yards.
You've already You've already scored thirty onepoints in this game, right, Like,

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I think the big Yeah, thebiggest problem was if if they were
getting any kind of defensive if theyhad any kind of defensive acumen, like
I had no problem punting, butthey just weren't. I mean, and
with the goal for special teams,you what, You're gonna pin them deep
at the one, That's what you'regonna do. He said, get at
the one. When you ever done, We've seen that once in five years.

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I think we did it in Nebraska, right, didn't something like but
that was because Crawford kicked it.It went thirty enrolled thirty five, Yeah,
and then just came to a gentlerest like like the two. Nobody
had to do anything except follow it. I think Writing did catch one within
the twenty in the first half,which is what he should have done on
that play. Yeah, but I'venever seen a kid so confidently I do
something and then Brady Weeks to longSnapper looking in and palms to this guy,

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my brother, it was Lebron toJr. I mean it was That's
exactly the vibe I got. Andyou just feel horrible for him because you're
like, man, you really thoughtyou were the hero there. Just couldn't
have and just four kid face balls. I guess I'm in the end zone.

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But it was one of those kindof nights. But if if Pj's
telling the truth, nobody feels itwas a fascinating discussion and a fascinating admission
by both coordinators that yeah, don'ttrust us, don't trust us hand it
off to we don't want the responsibilityhere. You got to make the call.
Yeah, well again, that's whereI think this game this weekend.

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It is so fascinating. By theway, So this is a three and
one Sun Belt team who I thinkis better than Northwestern. You want to
guess what the point spread is?If you guys haven't looked already, I
think I heard it this morning.Chip, the Gophers even favorite Chip,
What are you doing? What areyou trying to set him up here?
At fifteen, I don't know,twelve and a half, oh yeah,

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which is about what it was thislast week, right, so it didn't
move much. It was like elevenor didn't move much. But I mean
the Northwestern line, wasn't it elevenor twelve? It was eleven? Yeah,
something like that, and they werewell on their way to covering I
mean, thirty one ten, it'slike, all right, justintaneous, can
bust get a little throw? Imean, think if you get like if
if you get a stop or youknow whatever. Or the three place sixty
nine yard drive that took forty sevens. I mean that's like a pick six.

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I mean that's essentially eighth and throwinga pick six. Man, they
were just on their way. Howdifferent would the conversation have been, Oh,
thirty one seventeen? Did what youhad to do? Offense? Looks
good in the first half, eighthand spread it around a little bit.
It was great. Dari's Taylor's great. He's not hurt because he didn't need
thirty first game. He didn't needto give him thirty one carries. Defense,
They've got some cleaning up to do, Like, there's definitely a bizarro

(26:07):
world of this game. But unfortunatelythe fourth quarter happened, and as PJ
said to the team, and hesaid to me, that's the pill.
You got a swallow. So they'vegot Louisiana. They're starting a quarterback who
replaced a injured starter right a coupleof weeks ago. He made his first
start last week. Louisiana is prettygood and I think very much a running
team, more or less, verybig running quarterback, a couple of running

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backs who are running for over sevenyards of carry. Now Louisiana hasn't played
anyone more or less their one lossesto your favorite team old dominion. They
think they beating Northwestern State moln QuistBuffalo team, which is now oh and
four. Yeah, not going wellfor our guy mode there. No not
good, but I mean they're veryI mean they're undersized, but boy are

(26:51):
they athletic. So it's gonna again. I think this game this weekend is
fascinating to see what does the Goferoffense look like if Darius Taylor can't go,
or even if he can go.This is a very explosive Louisiana offense
that's going against a Minnesota defense that'sreeling and then palms to the sky outside
of Drag and Cassage on special teams. That was an absolute bomb by fifty

(27:17):
yarder, Like I go, yeah, I was standing behind PJ and like
that thing was like if you goto top golf and just let it a
rip into the into the night.I'm sitting there like that was an absolute
bomb, which why the fifty fiveyarder wouldn't have offended me all that much
in that moment. We didn't talkabout that. Yeah, I set you
guys the picture of Rob Wenger andpjf like getting into it. Yeah,

(27:41):
that was right before that play,was it. I think Wanger was trying
to get him yard kicking it.I mean I would have gone for it.
PJ, if I read the transcript, basically said that wasn't even in
a discussion, said the wind waspicking up a fifty five yarder and that
to me just too far. Ithink he had twenty twenty one Iowa flashbacks

(28:03):
maybe too when if you remember DragonCassage comes into that game, tries a
fifty three yard or I would justgets blocked. I would just really trust
my office making a fifty five yardfield goal exactly. There's more upside to
going for it than Now, Iguess you could say, well, either
way, you connect either one ofthem, but that's a lot. That's
a long way, and a lotcan go wrong in fifty five yards,

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especially when you put go for specialteams in the spot. That was an
absolute rocket though, Like I mean, just watching it just kept like I
don't think it ever stopped the sendinguntil it like just kids got a man
and the wall. I looked over. I think Mark Coyle's over by me.
I'm like, oh my god.Like that wasn't like, oh,
let's see, does it sneak overthe crossbar? Nope. That was like

(28:45):
Lake Michigan almost. That was unbeliever. The field goal and overtime, remember
that one he hit a little alittle tight right. Yeah. I'm not
a big golfer, but I knowthe term he like scolded, Yeah,
oh oh boy, got it throughthough, got through Yeah, kicking there
and versus going for that. Iwas fine with it. And over time,

(29:06):
I think you need to points.Yeah if Taylor, if you don't
then the kick a field going,You're you're done. It's a flex point.
If you're gonna nitpick one thing thatDarius Taylor did that night, the
way flex described it. He's likethat, you Darius ran that as a
third and two in the second quarter, not as a third and two with
the game on the line. Well, you gotta just bury your nose as
a six ft two and twenty runningback between the tackles there and try to

(29:29):
grind for and just push the pile. Can't bounce it there? All right?
So where did they go from here? I mean, what's the ceiling
on this season now now that they'vedropped one that no one had them dropping.
Yeah, you know, I thinkwhen we did our kickoff pod,
we went through and say what wethought the record be, and we said,
as long as they don't have oneof those games, yeah, where

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you just they have a performance thatyou don't see coming in, they lose
and this is it. So andthese games follow you as we know good,
like the the Illinois game a yearago, the Purdue game a year
ago, the Illinois game the yearbefore that. Like if you write this
thing even with the Michigan and OhioState on the schedule, given that the
West is just West terrible whatever.I even think back to the Bowling Green

(30:14):
game, remember how down we were. And then they go into October and
they went four straight Big Ten games. Yeah yeah, but like and that
obviously didn't hurt him in the BigTen. Now, like those other Big
Ten games, like those quizzical losses, like there's a world where you beat
in Iowa, you beat at Wisconsin, well be Illinois and you're on the
outside looking in because you also haveMichigan Ohio State, but in Iowa or

(30:36):
Wisconsin didn't drop a game to NorthwesternAnd then it's now, am I picking
that at the moment given everything wejust laid out the last thirty minutes.
No, but bad losses like thiscan really follow you around in division play
when all the tiebreakers come to cometo end. And we've seen that.
Yeah, I mean, if youplay at this floor for the next day

(30:56):
games, you're not play But yeah, right, but the defense is a
problem right now. It just is. That's the biggest problem is flex offensive
philosophy is what it is at thispoint. But if the defense can't stop
anyone, none of it matters.None of it matters. If the head
coach isn't willing to change his philosophyon offense to match that, you can't
just trust your defense to do everything, and you have to have your offense.

(31:19):
We continue to be explosive, allright, Should we move on?
Certainly we will after the break.You know what's stuck in the past,
but in a good way. Jack'sCafe Jackscafe dot Com ninety years somebody,
I say, stuck in the past. Obviously not. They've evolved, modern
offense, Chip brand new website.But they I'll say this, they've connected

(31:41):
the past and they've bridged to thefuture, like we've always said we're trying
to do. That's why we loveJack's Cafe. You walk in, you
can see a menu from years andyears and years ago. You can see
what it looked like years and yearsand years ago, and the food is
tremendous. It's one of our favoriteplaces ago. They've been great partners here
on the Parent of Spare podcast acouple of years now. Whatever the occasion,
Chip Jack's Cafe is a good spot. I'm going Thursday night, Well

(32:07):
is this like the delayed birthday?But my older sister, who I love
dearly, is flying in from NewYork to run the ten mile There we
go this weekend with my wife andso she lands, Uh, she's coming
in and we're gonna have a littleJack's cafe. Where where else would I
mean, family comes out of town, you want to take on one of
the best places in the Twin Cities. That's Jack's Cafe, burnsy, date

(32:30):
night, business, lunch, brunch, whatever. It may be. One
of the best spots in Northeast ohcomplaints on my in ninety years in Northeast
Minneapolis. Go check it out.Go check out their website, Jack's Cafe
dot com, Jaxcafe dot com.They've got a great new website that will
tell you their story. You canshare their story. You can see our
guy Bill, who I think islike seven in one of these pictures,

(32:51):
and you get an outstanding look atall the different foods that they have,
whether it is the brunch, thelunch, the dinner, the holiday dining.
It's all good. We love itand support Jack's Cafe because they support
us. Jax Cafe dot com.Bernsie and I talked about this on Go
for Football Sunday. Chipper that,yeah, I've defended a lot of the

(33:13):
PJ approach because it's worked for himfor a really long time. Obviously,
he has a theory of how hewants to win games. He is a
Jim Tressel vibe of this is whatyou do, and we've talked about how
it's more difficult if you don't havea great defense and blah blah blah blah
blah. My worry is that itbecomes a Ferrens situation where Iowa got into

(33:35):
the same trap. This is howwe win games, this is what we
do well, We've won a lotof games. You take a look at
the record, a lot of alot of ball trophies and some big ten
titles and all that, and youneglect it for so long and then all
of a sudden, it's thirty onenothing and a Penn State whiteout and you
can't do anything about it, whichis what happened to Brian Ferrens and Kirk
Ferrens in the Iowa offense. Theyran thirty some plays. I think Penn

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State ran ninety four first downs andI think seventy three yards or something total,
four first downs and four turnovers likethat is Yeah, even by Iah
was offensive standards. And that's whatI would worry about, is if you
don't kind of tweak and address asyou're going. I'm not saying Pj's on
that track, yeah, but likeyou could see like pulling up to that

(34:20):
station of you know, Stubbornville andnot getting onto you know, the Progressive
Highway. And I've said this whenI was critical of it the last few
years. There's a ceiling with thatapproach. And the West has been so
pedestrian and so mediocre that you canwin the West. Yeah, but when
you're going up a level and competitionagainst great teams or they have probably better

(34:49):
athletes than you, Well, that'swhere I'll say, is that is there
a ceiling? Are all the teamsin the West doing it this way because
that's the way you can win theWest, and that's the only way you
can win a lot of games inthe West. Like there's a ceiling to
all the West teams no matter whatby definition in my opinion, when you
look at the when you look atthe teams that are in the East,
when you look at the big tenteams that are coming in, I don't

(35:09):
know if it's a purposeful thing sayingnow we're in the West and there's not
you know, we don't have toface Penn State up. We're not going
to get up against them, andin our subdivision we can we can do
it this way. And I don'tknow if it's that conscious or is it's
just how these coaches were, Well, it's just how they came up.
Complimentary football. They all love complimentaryfootball. Yeah, you never hear James
Franklin talk about complimentary football. He'sjust putting it on you. Yeah,

(35:32):
because he can. And the restof these teams have to do it.
And here's the thing that's going away, the divisions. Divisions, but going
away. Now they may come back, but they may come back in a
different format or different you know,groupings. But you you could just watch
those offenses and watch the way they'rerun and just say, there's a limitation

(35:54):
to what these these teams are gonnabe able to do. Because when you
face a team that's gonna put youin a track meet, you can't keep
up. I mean that's where youlook at the Minnesota perspective. You got
Michigan in two weeks, you gotOhio, stayed on the schedule, yet
like those teams are going to generateexplosive plays against you up the Wahoo.
Rutgers hung with Michigan for a longtime on Saturday. I don't know how

(36:15):
much you watched to that one.I just started scored but it might have
been just I'm sure Joe Rossi's gonnacall his favorite friend in the world,
Joe Harris Semiac, the Rutgers defensivecoordinator, long for a minute and say
what did you do? And whatwhat would you have done differently? I
mean, the same thing that I'msure Greg harbow is gonna do to Kirks
Rock But even though they scored ona slant to start the game for seventy

(36:35):
five and then didn't do anything right. But that's the thing is, when
you play Michigan in two weeks,you can't do that approach. You have
to truly throw everything in the kitchencupboard if you're ever gonna win a game
like that, because why wouldn't youbecause you're not gonna have to lose.
Yeah, you're gonna be a threetouchdown underdog. And both of those games
yep. And Michigan has scored thirtyagainst East Carolina, thirty five against UNOV,

(36:55):
thirty one against Bowling Green, andthirty one against Russie. Well that's
why I mean, you hear atall time from MYA fans. They're just
frustrated because yes, that formula hasworked, Yes it's gotten you to big
time bowls you've been to, you'vewon the West, you've gone to these
fun bowls, but you've also seenthat when it when it goes poorly,

(37:17):
it's just I think since they beatPenn State at home, they're like fifteen
and ten a couple of years ago, some some number. I may be
mangling that somehow, but they hada big top five win at knock at
Night and since that point they're fifteenand ten, which is not ideal for
them. No, which is notideal for them, and why and also
just the way I mean thirty onerip. Yeah, it's wide out and
Penn State's difficult. We saw thatlast year. But even the Gopher scored

(37:40):
sixteen points correct the freshman quarter likehis first career start it was, and
they didn't really have him throw theball the first they didn't let him do
it any half. And you havea kid McNamara who's an experienced guy,
and you get four first downs.Not great bobs about the West. We've

(38:01):
I don't know how many years we'vebeen doing this podcast at this point.
This is the third year. Thisis the westiest of all the West?
Is this the worst of the Westthat we've had it's the most pedestrian I
think. I don't think any teamlooks good. No where you can't see
a team like in the top fifteenat the end of the year. It
feels like the Atlantic coast Coastal.Yeah, what I mean like it feels
like I think it's the coastal becausewhat's the other one that has Clemson in

(38:22):
it. It feels like the onethat Virginia Tech can win and then get
in like that, That's what itfeels like. Wisconsin. Tanner Mordekai has
got some wheels, a couple oftuddies, as the kids say. On
Friday night, I was listening tothat game driving to the airport. There
was some there was a little juicethere. They have a terrible injury with
ch Year that was rough. Well, that's the thing to watch now is

(38:43):
chess MALUSI was the perfect fit forthat Philngo offense. The way he's kind
of a I shouldn't say a scatback because it kind of diminishes it,
but a more explosive running back thanBraylan Allen. Now, they got to
rely on Braylan Allen the last eightgames of the year, and as a
Gopher fan, many of the peoplelistening to this. I don't know that
I've ever covered Braylon Allen when he'sbeen healthy. Yeah, And I have

(39:05):
a strong suspicion that seven games fromnow or eight games from now, when
the Badgers have to come into HuntingtonBank Stadium, he's probably not going to
be in one hundred percent game,right, I mean, he's gonna have
two hundred carries on him, Yeah, an additional two hundred carries to what
he already has. Because it soundslike Wisconsin is kind of in the same
I don't know that running back purgatoryis the right way to say it,

(39:28):
but they don't have another running backoutside of Braylon that they trust, Like
RB three was a big issue forthem in fall camp because they didn't really
trust anyone. Are you really goingto now do them Mohammad Ibrahim approach where
you put thirty carries a game onhim for the next seven games before the
Gophers? Yeah, I mean,and they're passing is I don't know where
they're at, but they're they justokay, They're they're just average there.

(39:52):
I mean Purdue is yeah, Purdue'snot good. Illinois is not good.
Crazy, I mean, no,Minnesota's not good, Northwestern's not good,
and I was again big life Stage, Big ten. Yeah, that's where
we talk about. You look atthe last eight games of the of the
season from Minnesota, you're saying,run the table after Michigan and Ohio State

(40:14):
is which is possible? Believe itor not? Is it likely? Absolutely
not? But it's like every gameit's like what version or even like Minnesota's
got Michigan State on the schedule,like Michigan State's a team. I am
incredibly interested to see what happens withinthe next couple of weeks because how many
players for Michigan State, now thatthey've played four games, just refuse to
play. It's possible because when melTucker does eventually officially get fired, even

(40:38):
though he's been told he was firedthis week, that's gonna be what next
week, maybe fourth? Then there'llbe a transfer window that opens for those
players. So if they want tomaintain their year of eligibility, how many
play this weekend? I mean thatteam doesn't look good at all, looks
I mean that was their last standwith Maryland. This team, I think
that's that number of guys will justsay yeah to preserve the red shirt.

(41:01):
Yeah, they got to look upfor themselves. I mean that's where that
team comes in in late October.What does that game look like? Again?
I know that the sky is falling, and if Minnesota plays like that
for the next eight games, they'renot gonna make a Think if they had
just won thirty one to twenty toonly melt down for half the fourth quarter.
Yeah, like how different the conversationwould be, or even think if

(41:23):
if Kyler Bau gets the sack withlike twenty seconds left and no time outs.
Yeah, they probably win that gameand we're sitting here. Yeah,
they imploded, but they didn't fullyspontaneously. They built a big enough cushion
where it didn't matter and the firstthree quarters were good, but here they
all count. Yeah. Can wedo coaches gone wild? Yes, this
we've been wanting to get to this. Well he came in early. Yeah,

(41:45):
yeah, I did a little production. Yeah, I worked out today.
I wouldn't even say one one.Okay, good because I was I
got didn't get into like three thirtyafter that game. That was fun.
Yeah. Well, Hare's a hellof an airport to fly out of,
even when you're on the charter Let'sstart with the Oregon Coach because that was
my favorite from Saturday where they've gotCoach Prime. Dan Lanning had some thoughts.

(42:10):
Dan Lanning, he might be myfavorite coach. I didn't know much
about him until now. That mferwants all the smoke like that guy wants
all of it. Whatever the kidssay, he is here for all of
it. He is him. Hewants all of it. First of all,
So Oregon, as you know,is hosting Coach Prime and that traveling

(42:31):
road show and everything that comes withthat. The Oregon duck comes out in
a hat like Dion with sunglasses.They tried. He tries to like take
it off. I don't know whathappens. He ends up, the head
falls off. The real mascot guyis shown. He has to run back
up the tunnel because mascots are notallowed to show their face. They're not

(42:52):
even allowed to say they're the mascot. And so it starts there, and
then at like halfway through the firstquarter, we get wind of Dan Landings
pregame speech rooted in substance, notflash rooted in substance. Today we talk
with our pads. You're talking yourhelmet right every moment the Cinderella stories over.

(43:15):
Man. Right, they're fighting forclicks, We're fighting for wins.
There's a difference, right, there'sa difference. Right. This game ain't
gonna be playing in Hollywood. It'sgonna be played on the grass. Right,
It's gonna be playing on the grass, fighting for clicks, fighting for
wins. You guys are fighting forclicks. I'm fighting for wins here.
I'm not looking for clicks in yourwebsite. I'm looking for wins. It's

(43:38):
not gonna be played in Hollywood.It's gonna be played on the grass.
By the way, it's not likethis was surreptitiously videotape. This was sold
as ay all access. Yeah,come on, let's take a look at
the Oregon landing. I think it'stremendous. Yeah, that's the word.
This is what we want, right, tell me you also have what the

(43:59):
what the head coach said it halftime? Oh you know what Burnsy I do?
Oh let's hear. Yeah, thejustin guard of whatever network ESPN said,
not his handsome And what was thescore? Was it thirty five?
Nothing? Yeah? I think so? Yeah, Yeah, I do have
the halftime interview three phases there's alot to be impressed. What impressed you
most, Well, I'm not doneyet. If we were composed, we

(44:19):
executed at a really high level,but not done yet. We're not satisfied.
I hope all those people that havebeen watching every week were watching this
week. I think they are.How good is that? So? Yeah?
And I love that he tries togo high road but they can't help
it. He's got that in hisback pockets. He's trying to do coach
speak. He's trying to go,Hey, a lot to clean up.
You know, we're not done yet. Job's not finished. But I hope

(44:40):
everybody's been watching the last three weeks. I hope they're watching the Ducks go
Tigers. Well that's you know.And and from Dion's perspective, when you
attract that attention, it's gonna comeback when people. People aren't gonna like
it. Some people are gonna loveit, some people aren't gonna like it,
and some people gonna be offended byit. And coaches are going to

(45:01):
get annoyed by it. And whenthey take their shot, they're gonna And
by the way, part of whatannoyed Oregon was this reminds me of Tim
Brewster because I remember he did thisState College. I think, isn't that
when he had the Friday walkthrough jumpingaround and saying our house and all this
stuff. I'm sure the score waslike sixty three doughnut. Yeah, but

(45:22):
apparently some Colorado players did the thingwhere they jumped on the oh and they
did all that. So Oregon thismorning released a video of like their cinematic
that the Gopher does that, likethe Gopher team does this as well after
a win. Yep, they putit was clear that they were told the
Oregon video people to watch them,to watch Colorado and get what they say,
because you have Colorado players just mfin and trash talking in the game,

(45:47):
in the pre game, going onto the oh and like, yep,
stomping on it, which is stupid. Yeah, I'm just that stuff
is so dumb. It's literally likea minute football, these Colorado players just
saying things that they clearly should havesaid when you got boat race like that,
right, and I get it,you want you, but you're all
college kids. So it's like it'slike, even two days after the game,
Oregon still can't help themselves. No, was something like that, No,

(46:10):
they don't care, but I forgetwhere I saw this on Twitter and
I wish I could attribute it.But you know, somebody made the comparison
that Colorado is going to get likethe super Bowl. This is everybody's super
Bowl for sure. The type oftreatment the rest of the season. Yeah,
yeah, that's because when you're whenyou do things differently and you're brash
and you're providing guess what, andyou you're good? I mean, and
you're good? Yeah, or youpeople think you're good because you're three and

(46:32):
one. Now, I mean that'sthat's a compliment. But you know what,
I love this stuff, man,this is what I love pettiness.
I might go to Big ten MediaDay again. If this dude's gonna be
there, I might get him onradio roll because he was the one when
when Colorado left the PAC twelve heessentially said, well, what if they
ever brought to us anyway? Whocares? And I'm paraphrasing, but not

(46:54):
by much, No, not bymuch, not that much. It was
mostly oh were they here and happened? It's like Shooter McGavin, I'm sorry,
how did you play him? That'spretty love that guy says in Colorado,
do they have USC this week ornext week. It's one six and
one half dozen the other because it'sU c l A. I'll look.

(47:14):
I'll look here quickly, because Iwas about to say, for as good
as the organ at the game ofthe season, we didn't under is going
to be like seventy eight because USC'sdefense is just absolute. I watched a
Landing did a presser might have beenhis weekly presser yesterday and got asked about
it again. Yes, he didhe go for two up big? Yes?

(47:37):
Yeah. Did the card tell himto go for two? Yeah?
He had to beat him a card? Yeah, it told him, Yeah
he did, but he defended.I liked all of his answers because he's
obviously getting a lot more attention thanhe ever does because he was going up
against coach Prime, and I likehow he said, Hey, look I
was fired up. I was.My job is to motivate my team.
They were mad about some stuff andI'm paraphrasing and I used it. You

(48:00):
know, they were mad about theOh, they were mad about talking pregame
Like I dug into that and thenwhen we get out there, my job
is to win, and I gofor two every week. And I've gone
for it on fourth down every week, Like, this isn't anything new for
me, this is what I do. I thought it was great. And
the other thing he said, Dad, I thought was good, he said.
He said, listen, we allknow why there's so many more eyeballs

(48:22):
on college football right now. DM. What he's done, he says,
great, He said, I saidthat last week too. Yeah, he
goes that. You can't. You'dbe a fool to not recognize how great
he's been for college football. Yeah, it's true, perfectly handled. Yeah,
I love all of it. Ilove that new favorite coach. Yeah,
oh yeah, this is my guy. But I will say, and
I have seen this otherwise, thefighting for clicks and substance from uniform.

(48:45):
You who started this controversy like pot, I mean, come on, I
mean they literally have different socks everyquarter. It feels like like, okay,
you mean you're after a little attentionto Yeah, you're looking for a
little it's fine, but just don'tact like you know your salt of the
earth, little yeah, little uslike you started all this uniform craziness that

(49:07):
has old people in Minnesota mad.Can we get to the next coach gone
wild? Oh, let's hear it. We only got a couple of minutes
because Chip has a heart out thistime. I'm the only flexible one here.
Yeah, Ohio State Notre Dame endswith ten Notre Dame players on the
on the deal. Wish I couldhave watched it. Not good? Yeah,
were you busy? That was alittle busy. This is a great
game. Yeah, thanks. Chipdoesn't even know what to go over a

(49:30):
game of them. I'm surprised youwere up. That's true. It was
that kind of football. So Ryanday, So Ohio State wins. We'll
just skip. What do you sayt l d R? What does that
mean? Too long? Didn't read? Too long? Didn't read? So
you know what all if you want, all the smoke means, but you
don't know what tl DR means.I just assume Chip has no idea what

(49:51):
you're talking about. But all thesmoke is better. It sounds better.
All the smokes cool. TLD that'sstupid. Do you know what redd it
is? Read it? Yeah?It's a website where you read things and
there's threads and people pose questions andthen it's uh, they'll pose questions and
then you answer the questions or gophersread it. I say this with the
utmost. I have no expectations foryou with this, and that's okay,

(50:15):
But with guards when you're saying,you know, the kids want all the
smoke and then you describe Reddit thoughI can't be on everything. Okay,
I can't be hip on it.You're not that and all the smoke.
I am pretty old, all right? So all right, so Ryan dat
smoke? Because Lou Holtz, who'sone hundred and six years old, on

(50:37):
whatever show he was on, andI'm playing these back to back, lou
Holtz talking about highest State, thebuck Eyes maybe not being tough, and
Ryan Day wanting World War four orthree, which is Ohio versus everybody,
and everybody bates him, does sobecause they're more physical than Ohio State,

(50:58):
and I think do to Day,Well take that same approach. If you
know where lou Holtz is right now, what he said about our team,
what do he said about our team? I cannot believe this is a tough
team right here. We're proud tobe from Ohio. It's always been Ohio
against the world, and it'll continueto be Ohio against the world. But
I'll tell you what, I lovethose kids who we got a tough team.

(51:22):
No one can take something and runlike a college football coach. By
the way, Ryan Day was bornin Manchester, New Hampshire, about as
far from Ohio and tough as youcan get. I'll see if he maybe
grew up in somewhere. No,he went to the University of New Hampshire.
So, mister Ohio, did yousee the rest of the interview?
So she asked him like a footballquestion like something, and he's like,

(51:43):
let me take a breath here.Yeah, he was gone, he was
gone. It was over. Imean, lou Holtz again, what's he
supposed He's fired up the Notre Damecrowd. He's the last coach to win
a national title. There the wholeit's Lou Holtz, like, come on,
but Ryan Day And then he doubleddown in the rest conference too,
And I can't believe you would saythat about us, like another coach.
All right, well, you've lostthe Michigan tears in a row, and

(52:06):
the rumor is it's because they're betterthan you in the trenches, like this
didn't just come out of nowhere.And when you've lost these other high level
games, it's because you've got outphysical like unbelievable how often? I mean,
this is like two that we've seen. I bet this goes on every
week at a hundred schools. Thebolletin board material, yeah stuff. The

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coaches find one little thing, yes, and just lose their mind over it
in a free game speech. Yes, because they're all insane. Insane,
but you know why, because youcan build a thirty one ten lead against
the bad Northwestern team and still losesomehow. That's why coaches go insane because
you don't know what it's gonna be. You don't know why it's gonna happen.

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You just know that it might,and that's why they're all crazy people.
Yeah, Blue Holtz is how oldis blue Holes? For real?
Eighty something? I'm gonna say likeeighty five. I'll look up. So
these coaches have a staff right thatjust scours and looks for this stuff?
Right now? Where they getting thelou holes from? Was that a PEPPROI?
It was on ESPN? I thinkhe's eighty six. I don't know
if it was game day or ifit was like the SEC Show or what

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who knows, who knows and whocares? But like, how many people,
like how many Ohio State. Buckguys, do youse think could correctly
identify lou Holtz not being serious likewe all could? Yeah? No,
no, buck eyes, Yeah,probably not. I don't millionaires. He
was at Notre Dame last in thenineties when these players weren't born. They

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probably think that guy's from Rudy.I mean, is this the guy that
was with Miss Vaughan for Rudy?Like, these guys don't know who who
holds this? Come on, RyanDay. We got one more to get
to this one. We got onemore and this is from Washington State Oregon
State, which was also a greatgame, and the Cougs came to play.
And as you'll find out, alot of people watch the Cougs,

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speaking of ninety year olds that saythings despite what you hear, Lead Corso
say, this is Jake dickerd theCougar's head coach. We're building something special,
you know. I think nationally there'sa you know, there's a lot
of noise out there. I mean, I caught something this morning and I
was just watching Game Day, youknow, and Corso comes on and he
says, you know, the noone watches Bull, you know, and

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I don't really understand that what's themerit once again, because the facts say
people watch the Cougs, and thepeople watch the Cougs more than every team
that's left over in the Big twelve. Okay, So I you know,
Coach Corso, he's at the pointnow where they just they give him the
sheet and he you know, hereads off of it and they try to
make a joke, but it didn'teven didn't even makes It's well documented what

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ESPN has done to try to youknow, get this, get to get
our league into where it's at.And I would love to have a conversation
with coach Corso about the you know, the value that he sees and breaking
up the Premier West Coast Conference.Okay, and I also love to have
a conversation with Coach Corso about howhe thinks, you know, athletes and
mental health and flying them all overthe country is a positive thing. All

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Right, I think we get enough, But just remember this guy's people want
watch. If you're wondering later tolater this weekend when there you see a
Washington State on is anybody watching thisgame? Coach Dickert wants you to know
that people are watching the Coogs pickingon lead course, Hey, the no
one's watch what I just I'm prettysure I said that. I said that

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we use that game for picks becausethey're both in the top fifteen. Yeah,
gameh and those games are good topac ten is unbelievable. Right now,
dam Ward is tremendous. Washington.Yeah, yeah, he's underrated.
They got to that too in thein the pregame, right now, in
the post game. It's ridiculous.That's that's the thing about it is like
you know they're gonna have this awesomeyear as a conference, and then there
it goes, and there it goes, and here comes Oregon and Washington to

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the Big ten Conference, big life, big stage, Big ten. All
right, that's all I got.You guys, got anything else? Chips
got a heart out? He's gotto go. We pounce correctly. What's
that heart out? Yeah? Youknow five min I'm not even going to
finish that sentence. Remember people watchthe Coogs six games next Yeah, we'll

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get to that, and then we'llget to that next week. You'll be
bitter again. And that's all Igot. Anything else. I'm good?
All right, thanks everybody for listening. Sorry we had no energy early,
but when you blow thirty one tenlead. You're just meandering, We're just
wandering around. It's an a bussytype feeling. Gophers and Louisiana This Saturday,
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