2023 Week One Preview: Nebraska Week, Jax Cafe Party Recap

The guys are back and ready to go weekly! Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard deep dive both sides of the ball for the Gophers/Nebraska matchup, give their predictions on season record for the Gophers and review their night at Jax Cafe...spoiler alert: there were IPA's, Rum Runners and QR Codes!

Episode Transcript

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Glenn Mason sent a long time agoat the University of Minnesota. Need a
Pair and a Spare Yes, thankyou. PJ. Here we are just
a couple of days away on thePair and a Spare podcast. I'm justin
guard from the fan. We've gotChipskoggins from the Star Tribune and Ryan Burns
from Gopher Illustrated dot Com. We'represented by Jack's Cafe Boys. We're gonna
talk a little bit later about theParent of Spare Podcast party that we had

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in the bar area there and theparty crasher Mike Grimm on Saturday night.
But it was fun to see youguys at Jack's. It was fun to
have a little night out. Imet some great college football fans, some
great pair and of Spare fans,and we've got some stories to share from
that night. Is that fair tosay? Yes? I mean, I'm
still a little bit bitter about Ihad to finish the bitter beer. Yet

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you can't power your way through afruity rum drink. Hold that thought.
We'll get to that a little bitlater. That's a tease. There's my
experience with a rum runner. There'sBurnsy's experience with an ipa there's chips experience
with a QR code, there isa lot to get who had a worse
experience. That's coming up a littlebit later. But to start the regular

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season, because it is game weekweek zero's in the rearview mirror. We
watched some games there at Jack's.The Gophers opened the season just a couple
of days from now, a coupleof nights from basically forty eight hours.
As we sit, guys, thekickoff at Huntington Bank Stadium, Let's how
do you want to start this?You want to just start straight up preview?
What do we think you want?You want to start with Nebraska?
You want to start with Minnesota.I'll let I'll let you guys dictate,

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Chipper, where do you want tostart? Let's start. Let's start,
golphers. The weight is over.We're finally going to see what if any
fundamental changes PG has a store withhis offense. We're gonna see a lot
of new faces on defense and inthe Joe rossi h scheme. So obviously
Nebraska has a lot of newness tothem and question marks and unknowns that we

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were gonna find out too. ButI'm just excited, you know, there's
so much feeling up always, youknow, for the for the opener,
and I think they're just even moreanticipation this year, not only for the
Golphers, but just in the Bigten West in general, with so many
new coaches and so many new quarterbacksand the final year of the West and
who's going to rise to the top. We might talk about that as the
episode goes along. The uncertainty.Burnsy, right, there's this is an

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intriguing game. I know the Golfersare about a touchdown favorite, but this
is a very intriguing Week one game. When I say intriguing, I mean
nerve racking. I think if you'rea Golpher fan, because this isn't Scott
Frost Nebraska. Who knows what MattRules got, but we know he's better
than Scott Frost, and we knowthey're probably going to be a little bit
more well organized. And this isone where we'll talk about season expectations as

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we go. But you don't wantto drop this one. And so to
me, it's kind of a trickyopener in that way, Burnsy, It's
not like Nebraska is just completely uptivetalent. I don't think any of us
have watched a Nebraska football game andlooked out on the field and thought those
aren't Big ten athletes. Over thecourse in the last few years, they've
just had in up coaching, andthat's where Matt roll coming in is gonna

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actually provide some of that. ButI think the thing from Minnesota to just
not get in their own way onThursday night is I want to see what
the offense looks like when we're goingto see it evolved from Moe ivor him
in the running game was the strawthat stirred the drink last year, So
now it has to be Ethan callichmannis in this deep core of pass catchers

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because that's where the question marks liewith this offense. To me is who's
actually playing up front? And Flecktalked about when all three of us were
there on Friday that they might berotating offensive lineman, which I absolutely hate.
Really, I just feel like thatnever goes well. And then outside
of Sean Tyler at running back,who's not going to be a workhorse running
back, what else do you havethere? Who else do you trust?

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So it's going to be in gameone. How does PJ continue to battle
his inner demons of wanting to siton the ball, not pass the ball,
and when something goes wrong, whenyou're talented young signal caller makes a
mistake. He's got to learn thisseason, of all seasons, that you
can't just bury the passing game.You have to continue to move forward with
Athan Hey Burnsy, we only gotto see what war practices. Don't make

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him mad, do not bury,don't make him marry, don't make him
mad already I'm not better. Doyou see how I did that? But
but s so we I don't know. We hitn't know the answer of this,
uh specifically, but when PJ didn'tdrill down on talk about we may
rotate lineman all that, you thinkit's because they haven't found their best five

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yet or do you think they arestill trying to figure that out? Or
he said they feel like they havemore than five starters. Whenever a coach
says that, I'm always like that, really, I mean, there's got
to be a best five. SoI'm curious to see if that really is
the plan, because I agree withyou. We hear so much from coaches

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players continuity. You gotta have continuityon the line, You gotta you know,
you gotta be together and learn.Like so when you start talking about
shuffling guys in and out and movingguys around it that always I always wonder
how that's gonna work well, especiallywith to kind of get a little into
the weeds. A three three fivedefense from Nebraska involves a lot of movement
up front. There's gonna be alot of different stunts and twists We've seen

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going even back to that twenty nineteenseason where the last time that was the
last time I think that Minnesota rotatedon their offensive line. You saw Georgia
Southern and South Dakota State and FresnoState really give Minnesota issues up front.
Because Minnesota's rotating six linemen, youdon't have the communication that you need to
have in between series. You gota brand new guy next to you.

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And so I'm hoping that they doknow what their best five is. I'm
hoping that the least give it acouple of quarters. And if they don't
think that whoever the potential rotable guyis isn't performing up to the standard,
then yeah, okay, fine,you can rotate a little bit, but
I think giving themselves a little bitof continuity at least in the first twenty

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thirty minutes of the game is somethingI would do. Now, I think
P J. Fleck does that.I think he rotates, and I'll just
be sitting there rubbing my temples inthe Huntington Bank Stadium press box as I
watched and tweeting about it. Aboutit, I certainly will. You'll you'll
see me tweet throw all my emotionsthroat. It's at Ryan Burns MN on

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Twitter if anybody wants to jump inand follow him along. So let's go
through the offensive line quickly, becauseursery are onto yoursery. That's a lock
right at left right, Quinn Carroll, we think is a lock at right
guard correct, Burnsy, we thinkNathan bow is your starting center. Well,
you're already shaking your head on QuinnCarroll. Want you want to you
want to stop me? There?Did I get Bow? At least?

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I think Bows your center. Butthe question is is Carol gonna stick at
right guard where they really want toplay him? Where I think that's his
best spot, because I don't knowthat Martes Lewis or JJ G Day have
really run away with that thing atright tackle correct, the right tackle and
then left guard I have. Itwouldn't shock me to see Tyler Cooper,
who's a fifth year Carter Shaw whotransferred in from Utah State a few years

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back. I would be really surprisedto see the prior late kid in game
one, the true freshman, GregJohnson, even though I think he's going
to be starting for them at somepoint next year. But I think I
think you can pencil in or youcan write two guys in withink. That's
gonna be ursyy at left tackle,that's gonna be Quinn Carroll at write something,
and then Nathan bow at center.So what do they do at left

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guard? What do they do atright tackle? My guest Martes lewis at
right tackle, My guest Tyler Cooperfrom Saint Croix falls at left guard.
But I wouldn't be shocked at allto see them rotated left guard, rotate
at right tackle, and kind offigure it out as it goes. And
we did. In the practices wedid get to go to, we saw
them rotate guys. Each guy gotdifferent refs with the first team, so
it was it was a competition andit was hard to really know who was

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ahead because each guy was getting youknow, they're getting first team reps,
so maybe they maybe they got tothe end of camp and nobody seized it
and they really don't know who thebest guy is there. I don't know,
but I don't know if that's Idon't know that's necessarily a good sign.
No one's jumped up and one it, you know. But I will
say this though, and you've talkedabout this before, Burnsy as I was

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kind of writing it out, andI've probably said this story before, but
I always looked it was maybe seveneight years ago before the Gophers had beaten
Wisconsin in the Camp Randle press box, and I was kind of just looking
over the player card again and theentire two deep of offensive linemen, they
were all six six or offensive linemansix six, three fifteen, and they'd
all been in the program at leastthree years. Like they just went down

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the list and at least that whateverwe think of any of these guys that
were not exactly sure about, mostof them are dudes that have been around
a little bit, and if theyhaven't been around here, they're at least
adults from another college, right,And so you feel like you can kind
of piece meal your way together.If you need to at least that's that's
my glass half full thing on that. On certainties, it's guys that have

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been around, They've been waiting behindsome players a couple of different you know,
positions, have gone to the NFL, and now it's their turn to
step up and actually win one ofthese roles. Well, it's not going
to be Blaze Andrews and Connor Rolsonand year one and year two being thrown
in there like they were in twentysixteen twenty seventeen. I feel very confident
in saying that the entire offensive linewill be of the legal drinking age,

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So they're going to be old enough, but they're just going to be inexperienced.
So that's the thing that you kindof want to tow the line on
is, yes, in year sevenof a competent Big ten football program,
you're actually starting guys that are alltwenty one or older. That's what I
want to see, especially obviously upfront, But it's going to be how does
the inexperience kind of comb mingle withthose guys? Just they know they're strong

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enough, they know they're big enough, but can they get out of their
heads on some of these certain things. I'm sure Nebraska will be thrown at
them, and let's talk about onething. Go ahead, Wait, no,
I'm just if you talk about thoseI don't know if they're issues with
the offensive line, but having Ethanhave what four starts now under his belt,

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it just feels like you sort ofI know he's technically still a first
year at quarterback, and he's stilla young quarterback, but I have to
think how valuable that experience was forhim last year, the start at Penn
State, the start at Wisconsin,to play high level against some really good
defenses, particularly Wisconsin, which wasa type top fifteen defense. I think

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we're going to see a different quarterback. Yeah, I think the Penn State
game, I know everybody likes tostay. Oh, it was the white
out, and it was this andhe you know, he came over and
and PJ looked at his dad inthe crowd and said, I got this.
You know I read that the otherone whatever. Yeah, like that
one's a lot. They didn't askanything to do anything that game, and
that's part of the hands that's partof the reason why they got boat raced,
is because offensively, they just didn'thave much to me it's the Wisconsin

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game and really the first couple ofthrows acused before he got injured. I
mean the Wisconsin game to do andreally Nebraska, they're down at halftime,
Tanner Morgan goes back into concussion protocol. The offense is doing nothing in the
first half. In Lincoln, they'retrailing and right out of the gate,
essentially backed up into their own endzone, they throw a bomb. He
throws it into the wind. DanielJackson I think, catches it and it

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jump starts the whole game. Likethose two games, winning on the road
at Nebraska, trailing, getting throwninto a rough situation and making enough plays,
and then obviously Wisconsin. Just thenumber of plays that he made,
both with his legs and his arm, I mean that had to give him
all kinds of confidence, burnsy movingforward into the offseason, like I belong
here, I can do this,and by the way, I just got

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here, so there should be moreto come on all those fronts. It
was such a just a learning yearfor him last year because I think you
guys remember those press conferences when hefirst got his couple of starts, Fleck
was very much you know that admonishingis the right word, but his preparation
at times on the sidelines sure justthat he had to grow up. And
I think he has grown up throughoutthe off season. I still think he's

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got a ways to go, butI think that's certainly a different Ethan mentally
in twenty twenty three heading into gameone than it was heading into twenty twenty
two. I think he knows thisis his team. I think he knows
that this is his offense, andI think he knows that if he's going
to be the one that if thisoffense is going to score points, it's
gonna have to be because of him. And that's where And we've talked all

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offseason about how, I mean,this is the most physically talented kid I
have covered in my twelve years onthis beat. Now, whether that means
a lot of success or not,that's gonna be up to Ethan from Game
one to Game thirteen. There's gonnabe up. There's gonna be downs,
but I think you're gonna see himmake throws that you haven't seen a Gopher
quarterback make in some time. Chip, Hey, Chip, real quick?

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Chip? Is it cute for you? And burns? He says he's covered
this is his twelfth year. Youjust kind of go, oh, that's
cute. Oh, you're in doubledigits, that's real cute. Yeah,
I got notebooks older than you,buddy, I'm using pens older than you.
That's cute. Tell me more aboutyour twelve years, your grizzled veteran.
I would say, yeah, Iwould say the most physically gifted in
my time, Coverence is Webber.Uh. I like his you know,

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obviously the physical skills we see.I think how confident he is. And
and that's what I hope with PJ, because we've seen this in the past
where things go hey wire and hejust shuts it down. I hope they
don't lose confidence in the passing gamebecause I don't think this kid's gonna lose
confidence in himself or the passing gameif he makes it, if he throws
a pick right point, so Ilike, don't lose the confidence for him,

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Like, I don't think it's gonnarattle him. I would love it
to see if they if if ifhe could average thirty passes a game,
yeah, and and run the balleight times, keep the ball eight times.
I just think for the first timeunder Fleck, the offense has to
go through the quarterback now and likeand I've been beating his drum, but

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the strength of the office, Ithink is a quarterback and for the first
time in the fleck are here,so maximize it. And I don't think
burns you bring in. I don'tthink you convince Corey Crum's to come here,
Elijah Spencer to come here, Brevinspan Forward to stay here if that's
not a big part of it.And in the whole PJ shutting it down

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deal, I think their schedule istoo hard to go into a game plan
with that game plan for almost anygame. Like I don't think there's any
team on the schedule, non conferenceincluded, whether it's the Eastern Michigan or
Louisiana that have both been bull teams, whatever you think of their league,
in their pedigree, Like there mayhave been times where you could go into
some games and go, we canjust give it to Mow and Tanner can

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be eight for fourteen for eighty sevenyards and a touchdown. I don't think
there's any teams on the schedule wherethat's a legitimate way to beat them,
in my opinion, And we haven'ttalked about to go for defense. We
don't know what they're going to beyet. I know we all believe in
Joe Rossi, but just given thequality of opponent that they seem to be
playing almost on a weekend a weekout basis, I think they have to

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have all options available and that shouldinclude the passing game. I think the
most important thing we learned a bigten media days this year from PJ.
Fleck was just that is he mentionedhow I'm not going to say robat him,
but how that this has to bethe most explosive team that he's had
because they're going in against obviously theOhio States and the Michigans and the North

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Carolinas of the world where there's gonnabe a lot of points up on the
board, and air raid offenses andthe other teams. Correct, I mean
you start you start with. Imean, it's going to be interesting to
see how those two air raid offensesand Purdue and Wisconsin fair in November when
Minnesota faces them when it's chillier outside. But at least Fleck acknowledges unprompted that

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both offense, defense, EAVE andspecial teams have to become more explosive and
if Minnesota is going to be moreexplosive on offense. It's gonna hap through
through the passing game. It's Brevinspan Ford, it's Dandy Jackson, it's
Corey CRuMs, it's you know,a bunch of different guys. And that's
where I do think that they havearguably their most explosive back running back of

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the fleck, Aaron Sean Tyler.Now I say that, and you're thinking
yourself. Rodney Smith, Shannon Brooks, Moe Ibrahim all really good running backs.
I mean some even great. Theyweren't exactly explosive guys that you knew
once they got past the second levelthey're gonna get caught at some point.
Well, in theory, when SeanTyler hits the open field, he's not
gonna get caught from behind, atleast historically. So Minnesota needs to be

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more explosive. As much as Justinloves to sit on the sidelines there and
watch ten, twelve, fourteen,sixteen, it's easy to play drive.
Yeah, I would need to beable to come up with some of these
five and six play drives to beable to keep pace in some of these
games. What do you think thatrunning back rotation or distribution is going to

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look like I mean, obviously Tyler'sgonna get them most of the carries,
I would say, but how muchdo you think the other guys are going
to get? Well? Assume allright, So say to your earlier point,
the Minnesota throws the ball thirty timesin a game at say, on
average, they probably have sixty fiveplays on offense, So you still got
thirty five carries to kind of gothrough. Well, Sean Tyler in his
career back to back one thousand yardseasons, but he's only carried the ball

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over twenty times in a game threetimes. The average is about fifteen,
right, yeah, fifteen seventeen ish, So you're gonna say you count on
him for that, He's still anothertwenty carries or fifteen to twenty carries to
kind of give out. And that'swhere I fully expect to see PJ.
Give Bryce Williams a shot, givethese two freshmen a shot, and Zach
Evans and Darius Taylor and kind ofjust show them all three of you have

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an opportunity here to take this thingand run away with it. Because the
vibey got out of fall camp wasnone of them really did. But now
once the bullets start to fly onThursdays slash Saturdays, you're gonna find out
who's ready for this, who's not. And then I think you kind of
roll with that for the east westof Sean Tyler to the north south of
one of the those three running backs. It's funny to me just thinking about

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it too. And this is kindof an aside, but you look at
Darius Taylor, who was I mean, you can tell me Burns. He
he was probably the highest rated kidthey got in this recruiting class. It
was a big get right to getDarius Taylor out of Michigan had a late
Michigan offer, had other big tenoffers in the transfer portal era, Like
if you have a couple of youknow, young I mean, we saw
this with Kay Thomas and Bucky.I know Bucky had some ni l stuff

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included, but like, these guyswant to play and you gotta find a
way to get them all the ball, and it's never so I wonder if
that factor's in, you know,just to game planning in general, like
hey, let's make sure everybody.Let's make sure everybody's eating a little bit
here, because it's never been easierto leave and we got some pretty talented
running backs. It looks like,so let's get the ball in their hands
exactly. But again, I justwant to see because when we saw Kay

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Thomas and Bucky Irvan get their shotback and that's was it twenty one season?
Yeah, yeah, I mean theytook it and ran with They were
both good, clearly ready for theirtime in the limelight. How did these
three react? I mean, we'veseen Bryce Williams do it at times in
his career. I think back tothat twenty eighteen Wisconsin game where he had
a couple of touchdowns. Zach Evansis finally able to stay healthy throughout an

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entire spring or fall camp, whichwas important for him. And then Darius
I mean you mentioned it and heturned down a lot of different people to
eventually sign with the University of Minnesota. So is he ready just being on
campus here in the first year.I think there's just a lot of questions
that I know you want a definitiveanswer. I just don't think we're going
to know a definitive answer until wesee these guys against Nebraska. Talked a

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little bit about Nebraska's defense in thethree three five. We'll talk about Nebraska's
offense in just a minute, butwe want to thank our great partners again.
Back for season two. Jack's Cafeat Minneapolis Institution ninety years old as
of this year, right, theyturned ninety And Chip, what do you
remember about opening weekend of Jack's Cafe? What was it? What was it
like? What was it like tobe in northeast Minneapolis there? You know

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what was that was the rum runners. We're gonna get to that, but
we had a great time on Saturdaynight, a little parent a spare podcast
party. We talked about it onsocial media for a couple of weeks,
but we always talk about you know, the prime Rib, which is great,
the stakes which are incredible. Chiploves the scallops, the burns.
He loves the patio and the brookand everything that goes with it. Like

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if you want to go and justhave a really good burger too and sit
in the bar and watch college football, Chip, that's what you and I
did and spectacular, right, agreat little cup of full kill or burger.
So they've got dander, they've gotsomething for everybody. They've got a
prime rib sandwich as well. They'vegot brunch on the weekends. We couldn't
be happier to roll with Jack's Cafeagain. And I know, Chipper,

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you're gonna try to get there asoften as we possibly can in this football
season and beyond. I will bethere early and often as much as like
it now. It was great.I mean, Bill does a great job.
And that was the first time Ihad the burger there in their night
and it was outstanding. And thebar areas cool, right, Just come
there and hang out the bar feeif you want to just watch a little

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college football. So it's a goodtime, yeah, before after the games
and for football, for basketball,for volleyball, for hockey. It's all
good, Burns. And when's thenext brunch for mister and missus Burns,
because that's always right around the corner. Well, I just made a reservation
for September to take take my folksthere for a dinner. But we will
be heading to brunch here, Ithink in a couple of weeks to again

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that patio. Man. I'm tellingyou, yeah, we talked about it
all last year. If you're tryingto earn some brownie points with your significant
other, there's this hidden gem thatif you don't know about it in Northeast
Minneapolis, with Chip's favorite part,plenty of free ample parking. Yeah,
go to Jack's Cafe. I promiseyou you won't be disappointed. Chip had
a little bit of a mini meltdownworry when he pulled up. I got

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dropped off, you know, becauseI knew I was doing the rum Runner
challenge, which we'll get to alittle bit later. And I saw a
Chip turn around the corner and itwas jammed. On Saturday. It was
a great at Jack's, great dinnercrowd, and just for a moment you
could tell Chip was worried that therewasn't going to be enough free parking for
him, But he just wasn't lookingfar enough on the horizon because rose like
three, four five all the wayto like Row twenty. There was plenty

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of parking there, right, Chips, So even when you thought it was
packed, you had plenty of room. I had to like a split second
moment of oh no, and butthere was plenty of parking for me.
And I was happy to see postpandemic. I love it when I go
into a restaurant in its field.Yeah, people are having a good time.
And it was a Saray night crowdand I love seeing I love seeing

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the police pack like that. Itwas cool. And to give you the
range, we were there to watchcollege football and do a rum runner and
i PA drinking challenge. There wasanother couple that stopped on the way out.
One of the son of the couplestopped to talk and mentioned that he
was at Jack's Cafe because his parentswere celebrating their fiftieth wedding anniversary. So
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Nebraska offense. They've got a newquarterback. He's talented, but he'll
throw it to the other team.Looking at his Georgia Tech numbers, we're
talking about Jeff Simms, the transfer. Am I simple oversimplifying at burns to

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say it's a guy that can helphis team a lot, but also a
guy historically that has hurt his teamquite a bit as well. Yeah,
historically. I mean you look athis numbers at Georgia Tech in three years,
thirty touchdowns, twenty three picks.The thing I would also know is
he's got seventeen career fumbles. Thereyou go within that, so he has
certainly put the ball in harm's awaya time or two. But the thing

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that has my antenna upper, thething I guess I'm worried about most for
Thursday night, is this kid canrun. When you look at his last
full thirteen games of healthy just whenhe was on the field, he averages
over sixty yards game on the groundwhen you take out the sacks. So
this is a kid that I thinkis averaging three or four first downs with

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his legs. And that's sam samplesize, that thirteen game sample size.
So he's a big kid, sixfoot three. He loves to break the
pocket. He loves to run forfirst downs, and so that's going to
be the thing I'm interested to seeis when Minnesota does get Nebraska to a
third down, they're going to befacing a quarterback that loves to break the
pocket and run. My hope wouldbe that you don't see John Joyner and

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Danny Stregau get too far upfield thatand then of your defensive tackles just keeping
their eye on this kid, becauseif you if Jeff Simms beats Minnesota on
Thursday night with his arm, sobe it. But if he beat you
with his legs, there's no excusefor that. Yeah, you mean,
I looked at his stats from GeorgiaTechan. I don't think he in the
three years, I don't think heaveraged about sixty passing the ball completion percentage.

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But you're right, burns anything,those are backbreakers when you have him
in the third and long in thequarterback breaks and contain it and gets the
first down there. So something theyhave to be mindful of it. I'm
sure Joe Rossie will have somebody accountedfor that. But it's interesting is it's
the offensive coordinator sadder Field that camefrom South Carolina. Correct. I read
a story from the Lincoln Paper whereyou know, he talked about they're gonna

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be a team that huddles and they'regonna run the ball, and they're gonna
be, you know, a moretraditional type offense. So it'll be I'm
curious to see how they use Sims, how much running he does what that
offense, because last year I don'tthink they could run the ball at all,
right, I mean, it wasall just they struggled up front and

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they just try to pass the ball. And yeah, I don't know if
they fixed their offensive line issues.That's the thing he really jumped out the
last couple of years. To me, guys, is I feel like the
Gophers won those games in the trenchesboth sides, right, I mean,
they just they physically beat them upin the trenches. So has Rule fixed
that, either through coaching or throughrecruiting. I'm curious to see how that

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goes tomorrow. Well, I've watchedalmost everything that has come out of some
Nebraska official social media account and everythingthat Matt Rule says. I'm like,
yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, Like the guy knows what the hell
he's doing, you know what Imean. Like, and it's probably Nebraska's

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bad luck that he's not coming infive years ago when there was a big
ten West division. Now there mightstill be a Big ten West. It's
just gonna be Nebraska and the LAschools in Oregon and Washington. But like
everything I watched him, like,damn this guy. And now he's the
son of a preacher, I believe, right, so he obviously knows how
to orate, but just his messagesand he's bringing in Trev Alberts, and

(26:48):
he's saying, when were you picked? And he's like, you know,
top five. He's like, andyou red shirted, right, Trev.
He's like, yeah, I did. He goes bringing in NFL guys.
I mean, just his message.I mean, you can see HYPJ and
Matt Rule and a lot of coachesdo the flowery rhetoric, but you really
you can see a lot of similaritiesand that they're about the same stuff.
And I just I mean, Ithink Nebraska fans should be thrilled that they

(27:10):
got a guy who, in myopinion, clearly knows what he's doing.
Now I'm watching ninety second YouTube videos, but it's pretty good stuff, man,
it's pretty good stuff. Yeah,if you could win at Temple and
Baylor, I mean the jobs hedid there it Temple, I mean Baylor,
obviously he's established. But I don'tknow, you know, I'm sure
there's a million things that went wrongwith him in the NFL. It was

(27:33):
a disaster, but yeah, Ithink it's pretty established as a college coach.
The guy knows what he's doing,is a good coach. So what
do we expect offensively? I mean, I mean, we talked about the
quarterback burnsy, But like, whatwhat are they known for? System wise?
What's Sadderfield gonna do? Like HowardNebraska's skill players. You've obviously you
know the recruiting stuff. You knowwhere where these guys are coming from.

(27:55):
What do we expect in terms ofthe skill level and the talent and what
else Minnesota should be concerned about.Well, if you look at Sadderfield and
just Matt Rules history, they dolike to run the quarterback Spencer Rattler,
you remember him from South Carolina.They moved him around the pocket quite a
bit, had some here and theirdesign quarterback runs. Matt Rules got a
long history of doing that as well. But to me, the skill positions

(28:17):
is the thing I want to seemost outside of what is allegedly a revamped
offensive line, is they don't reallyknow what they've got going there. It
sounds like there's some question marks aboutinexperienced guys. Sounds like the running back
is a guy that doesn't have aton of experience. Their pass catchers they're
trying to figure it all out yet. And that's kind of the scary thing.

(28:37):
I guess if you're Joe Rossi isyou're looking at some of the skill
position guys saying, hey, whatdo they do? Well, let's watch
tape on them. There's a tonof tape on some of these guys.
So they do bring back I thinkIsaiah Garcia Castanada, who you remember caught
a touchdown in that opening game inIreland, but who could forget to me,
it's just how does Nebraska look upfront? Because they've spent a lot

(29:02):
of time talking about it. TheChips point why has Minnesota won four consecutive
in this series, and especially ina couple of games in Lincoln that they
probably had no business winning back inthe COVID season and then last year when
Nebraska should have won those football gamesbecause Minnesota was better up front. So
that's what I want to see isdoes Minnesota's revamped defensive line that we've talked
about all offseason, does it cometo play against the Nebraska offensive line that

(29:27):
they have historically here in recent yearsbeen able to do pretty quick work with.
You know. You know, it'sinteresting we were talking about this guards
you with me and Bernsie rut thereand we're watching the defensive line go through
drills with Winston Is and just lookingat him physically. Yeah, like you
cannot say that that was the reasonthat this team didn't rush well or whatever.

(29:52):
Physically, I don't think it's anissue like size, speed power.
It feels like that group should bemore effective rushing the passer and creating havoc
at the line than what they werelast year. Am I I'm wrong?
In at Bersey and just look atthat the guys, the dudes they have
now, because it's not like whatwe've seen in the past where guys might
be a little bit undersized and theyhave to take a couple of years to

(30:15):
uh, you know, get himbigger and stronger. I mean, I
look at Anthony Smith and some ofthese guys that they have, and they
look like legit, big time,big ten evens alignment. Anthony Smith six
six two eighty five, John Joynersix five two sixty five, Jalen Logan
reading six four two eighty five.It's a long way from what we call

(30:36):
him stove Stephen Richardson, Yeah,Cochrane out there and ten pounds yea,
yeah, I mean we call it. Steve Richardson was a great run stopper.
He was like five four two ninetyfive. You know, he looked
like it looked like a soup can. I think that was the other name
that they called him. It wasridiculous. But yeah, Winston, yea,

(30:56):
there was a reason they brought himback, right, He's young,
he's hungry, he loves the program, and that group definitely needed some
type of an upgrade. They werethe most underachieving unit to me in the
Fleck era, because to Chip's point, you look at the bodies across the
room and you look at the productionthat they got pass rush wise, there
was no excuse for it to bethat poor. Like I think Jod Joyner

(31:18):
was their best pass rusher. Ithink Pro Football Focus accredited him with like
thirty three pressures. Kid had asack and a half on thirty three pressures.
I mean, that's just incredibly inefficient. So the question becomes with so
many guys getting their feet wet lastyear now going into year two as significant
players. We talked about them before, Danny Strigou, Jad Joinner, Jalen
Logan, Reading Kyler, bad defensivetackle. And then you add in Anthony

(31:42):
Smith, who I think is goingto have a role in year two.
I think he's too physically talented notto kid like Devin Eastern from Chakopine.
Now in his third year, formerfour star recruit, he certainly looks the
part Ken Winston. Get them playingup to their potential because they were mediocre
at best slash year in pass rush. If they can just be average,
I think that would help out asecondary that's breaking out so many new new

(32:06):
bodies immensely. That was what Iwas where I was going next, because
it's you know, Tyler Newban,justin Wally, and then I just have
to keep looking at the media guidewho yeah, yeah, I'm like,
oh, Terek Watson, Okay,I don't think he if he was at
Jackson Saturday, I couldn't have pickedhim out. Trayvon Jones, No,

(32:27):
Tyler Bride, Coleman Bryson, youknow, he was the MVP of the
Pinstripe ball. But but that thatit's that's the other question, right is
the new guys on the outside andalso the new linebackers really that that we're
going to learn from Outside of CodyLindenberg, I will say the one guy
that jumped out right away and rightaway I pulled Burns you side was like,
who's this guy? Darius Green?Yeah, Like he just flashing maybe

(32:51):
just one play he flashed. Idon't know, but I was like,
wow, that guy can run,and uh Mersey's like, yeah, he'll
hit you. He'll he brings uson at least with that one practice he
jumped out to me. Yeah,Darius is obviously going to be there,
the guys starting for Jordan Howden.And to Chip's point, if you ask
anybody around the go for football team, and or if you even pull up
his high school tape, he's goingto be going into his third year now.

(33:14):
But that kid is incredibly physical.He has no regard for his body
and the slightest in terms of hewill throw his body at you as hard
as he possibly can and not worryabout what it feels like at seven am
the next morning when he has toget up and go. But it's going
to be Ken Trey Jones or TylerBride, the two transfers they took.
Can they help justin Wally on theoutside? How does Jack Henderson look inside?

(33:37):
Filling in that Flip Dixon role whereFlip played four hundred four fifty snaps
for them in that big nickel role. Jack Henderson comes from Southeastern Louisiana,
one of Chip's favorite FCS schools andvery prolific down there. But how does
he adjust to Big ten speed?I think there's optimism there. They still
haven't heard on Craig McDonald and we'reless than forty eight hours and that all

(34:00):
fun from game time, which ispeak NC double A among other things there.
But how did these all new pieceskind of work together? Because you'll
have a brand new starter beside bothWally and Newbin, plus a new guy
in that linebacking corps. It soundslike the drumbeat is Devin Williams, a
third year guy from Ohio's probably goingto be the guy to get some of

(34:20):
the buzz on Thursday night. Butagain, we're talking about a lot of
different bodies out there kind of gettingtheir first real Big ten action, and
how does it all fit together ingame one is the question. The man
in charge of that chip is JoeRossi, and very much like the Vikings,
people go, why are the Vikingsgoing to be better defensively? And
the answer almost universally is like,well, Brian Flores is a good defensive

(34:42):
coach. Like Brian Flores. Imean, people said Quazy didn't even need
to sign anybody, apparently because BrianFlores is so highly regarded defensively, and
I'm not disputing that, but allof these questions that we have about the
defense, like you feel, Ithink, a certain sense of calm and
they'll figure it out because Joe Rossiis the is the guy that's in charge
of it all. Yeah, andI think we all three respect him about

(35:07):
as much as you can respect acoach. I mean, I think he's
one of the best coordinators in collegefootball. He says, not only is
he smart, but he has away of getting the most out of guys.
Seems like, yep, now wecould we you know, DEFENSEI lying,
we could say, you know,we say they underperformed, but I
think you look at just how hardguys played for him. And I talked
to himbout It. I was like, man, there's a lot I did

(35:28):
a call him on him early incamp and I was like, there's a
lot of new guys on your defense, and he said, there's a standard,
doesn't change, there's an expectation.The one thing I will say that
would make me pause a little bitis Drake May in week three. Yeah,
you're facing Ohio State, You're facingMichigan. Shoot, look, across

(35:52):
the rest of the West. It'sall transfer quarterbacks were exact former top recruits
or they're proven transfers. So you'regonna face him a much more high profile
quarterbacks or and or offenses this yearthan they haven't a past. And can
they eliminate the explosive plays, whichhas the key to his defense, right,
If he eliminates explosive plays, makethem more, they're gonna win.

(36:14):
They're gonna more times than not,they're gonna win. And he says they
try to keep them to two orfewer. And they've done that the last
two year and been top ten scoringdefenses about times. Can they do that
again this year? It's a lotmore, a lot more challenging because of
the offense and because we just theyhave some players that we don't know about
yet. If you'd like a fullgame by game season preview, please go

(36:37):
to the Goal for Gridiron podcast withRyan Burns and Luke Viewer. It took
me like four nights to get throughit. I was falling asleep a little
early. Burns, I don't rememberwhen he posted it. But we're not
going lot of ringing endorsement. Yeah, well, no, he knows guards
isn't a mood. No, heknows you. He knows that I always
listened to his stuff. That's whyhe always gives me the shout outs,

(36:57):
like within the first three minutes ofthe podcast, because he knows depending on
the day, and tonight's going tobe one of those, by the way,
because I've been at the fair formy whole life where I fall asleep
and then I got to pick upand go Okay. I heard Burnsley say
this, I heard Burnsy mispronounce this, I heard Luke and screw this up.
But they did a great job goinggame by game. We're not going
to do that for sake of brevityand repetition. And even though Burnsley would
have the notes, he could justrefer back to his GGR file. This

(37:21):
is the parent of spare. SoI'm just gonna ask you guys what you
think the Gophers record will be andif that would constitute a successful season in
your mind. Two part question,Chip, starting with you, I'm waffling
between eight and four and seven five. That's not fun. So my yeah,

(37:44):
I just think you know, ifthey if they you know, eight
and four, that would be agood season with this with this record,
we're with this schedule. I mean, when you're playing two best teams for
two top five teams in the countryin Ohio State and Michigan, you're playing

(38:04):
at Iowa, you're facing a NorthCarolina team that's going to have the number
two overall pick in the NFL draftnext spring in Drake May. This is
a hard schedule. So eight andfour I think would be a good season.
Seven and five I'd want to seehow it looks and who you lost
to and those types of things,but it's they got their work cut out

(38:28):
for with this schedule. Burns.If they were eight and four, I
think every fan should be elated justbecause of how difficult this schedule is.
I think I gopher illustrated. Ipick seven and five, which is probably
where I feel most comfortable, ButI'll say this, I feel like this
is the highest variant season that Ican remember here in the Fleck era.

(38:51):
That six and six wouldn't surprise me, nine and three wouldn't surprise me.
But like I talked about in mypreview, it all comes down to what
you guys think. Minnesota in thefour coin flip games is what I'm calling
them. Ye Road at North Carolinaand Iowa you get, and then you
get Illinois and Wisconsin at home.If you think that they go three and
one in those, well they're probablygoing to be nine and three heading to

(39:13):
Indie because that's a it's a lotof head to head wins there. If
you think they're going to go onon four, well, then Chips better,
you better ask your wife to startbooking a Christmas hotel in Detroit because
that's where they're going to be headingat six and six. So it all
comes down to to me, they'rein the same talent tier as all of
those teams. But we all knowthe statistics, like all the listeners do.

(39:34):
They haven't won in Kinnic since nineteenninety nine. They got to travel
to Chapel Hill to take on arguablythe most talented quarterback that Joe Rossi has
gone against in his time as Minnesotadefensive coordinator. You gotta take on Illinois
at home where Brett Bealam is nineand oh in his career against Minnesota,
and then you get Luke Fickle atthe end of the season, and what
Minnesota has been able to do interms of winning back to back games.

(39:57):
That's great, but it all comesdown to those four games for me.
That's why six and six wouldn't shockme. Nine and three wouldn't shock me,
But seven and five is where Ilanded. Yeah, that's probably where
I would land to you guys,all you nailed it. I mean,
there's not much I can add.I think the larger point is I think
people should be happy with eight andfour, elated happy, however you want

(40:20):
to describe it. Understand, ifit's seven and five and six and six,
you're probably you probably dropped one thatyou that you shouldn't have, right,
there's probably a surprise in there,and so it's and I could like
Burns, I could see him jumpingup, and you know, if Athen's
as good as we think Ethan's gonnabe right away and the defense with all
these new names, figure some stuffout and PJ has the right approach and

(40:44):
understands you're not gonna mow Ibraham ateam to death. I'd think they could
go nine and three, but morelikely I'd probably say it's a seven and
five or and eight and four,And I think that's a I think that's
good work when when you're already whenyou just take out North Carolina when you
got All State in Michigan on theschedule, like you're you're up against it
right right away. You're you're justup against it right away. Your margin

(41:06):
for air to have a nine orten win season right there is eliminated.
Yeah, I guess, I meanI would if you said pick a record,
I'd say seven to five. Butthe factors are second hardest schedule in
the country with the first year startingquarterback not exactly the most ideal scenario for

(41:27):
a starting out of a regime fora court for a quarterback, or a
ten year for a quarterback, eventhough you know, I think this kid
has really high ceiling like mannis,but it's it's there's a lot of unknowns
that we don't know about this team. Now you're in year seven, so
this is not like year two orthree were like he's still trying to establish

(41:50):
the depth and that type of thing. But everybody has little mini dips,
you know, I mean, butyeah, programs, Yeah, yeah,
the program it feels like it's stable. Yeah, you're not like you're not
learning systems and still so during amuch better spot than tackle this schedule now.
But but that's why you started thispodcast by saying you really really really

(42:17):
need to beat Nebraska on Thursday night. Yes, you can't afford to lose
that one. That's not if you'retalking about seven to five or eight before,
that's not. Well, yeah,exactly right. I'm not counting on
Nebraska. A lost to Nebraska tomake that happen. Quick promo that the
CAFAN and Gopher Radio Network pregame Showwill start at five o'clock right in front

(42:37):
of three and Marina at Marucci tipOff as we say, starts at seven
and knew this year Chip, Idon't know if you know this new addition
to the Gopher Radio Network pregame showis Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot Com.
Every Burns and we're gonna sneak someParent and Spare plugs in there.
Believe me, we'll get We'll getGopher and Iron will get Parent to Spare,
but Burns he will join me atsome point. I gotta get you

(42:58):
a time on that. Burns willoffline, but excited to get out there.
It's gonna be You wait this wholetime, and then all of a
sudden, the season feels like it'sright here, and you're like, oh,
all right, Thursday night and thenyou go. Then it's Labor Day,
then kids are back in school,then it's the Sprint. So we
look forward to doing these episodes weekly. Let's spend our final couple of minutes,
guys, before we go. Ihad if it feels a little rush
today at the State Fair. Ifyou listen to my Cafan show or Dan

(43:21):
Barrero's Cafan show that I work on, we had Hollywood you have pretty big
star Josh Dumel on the show inthe booth to promote his new show.
He did not have a hard outtime. He did not have a time
where he demanded, I need tobe out of here. Well, we
were told you have from three tothree twenty and I'm looking at my watch
and usually the publicists, I alwayssay it. At Gopher Sid school,

(43:45):
the first thing they sit you down, they give you a notebook and a
couple of polos, and then theyjust teach you how to make the wrap
it up sound sign with your finger. Because every Gopher Sid I've ever worked
with, God bless them, theyall do the wrap it up and I'm
like, not my first show,guys, i know they've got to go.
I know when halftime is we'll getPJ out of here, relax.

(44:05):
But Ryan Burns has a heart outtime tonight. He told us that he
has a heart out time. Sowe're gonna respect the time of our very
busy co host Ryan Burns and getout of here. Can you tell us
what the heart out time is for? I mean, it can't be a
serious You're sitting there in a brotank. You're in a mood tonight,
I am is what I've learned?Yeah night. Yeah. The amount of

(44:27):
time you and I are going tobe spending with one another, both on
the pregame plus go for football Sundays, plus parents spare baby person on Tuesdays.
Yep. I mean you're gonna beseeing a lot of me. And
if this is the way that youwant to treat me, I don't know
how I feel about it. Rightnow. We'll talk about how am I
supposed to feel, Chipper, We'lltalk it out. We'll talk it out,
so you still have you still havean answer the question though, what's

(44:47):
the heart out time? Yeah,it's a little event or I guess with
my lovely wife, I told youit was date night night an event.
Well, I hope it's not tillten, because you got some work to
do to get event ready with whatyou're wearing right now. Man's look at
the beauty of being being a manis uh. I can just like go

(45:08):
downstairs and put on a polo,put on some nice slacks, call in
my hair, and like three minuteslater, I'm ready to go. Especially
when you don't button your shirts allthe way up, you don't even have
to worry about that. Two orthree. We all know that that's just
efficiency. Let's wrap it up.Reviewing a great time on Saturday night at
Jack's Cafe. It was I appreciateeverybody that came by. It was fun

(45:29):
to meet all of you. Itwas fun to talk college football. Appreciate
Bill and his staff. I meanthey put together a Parent of Spare menu.
They put the we got Parent ofSpare matchbooks, which is a great
touch for Jack's Cafe. And itwas fun to watch you. I'll be
honest. I mean I popped inon a couple of games, but we
were mostly just telling stories. Dowe want to do the beer battle first?
Or do we want to do chipsuh competition with the QR Beer Battle.

(45:52):
We went out to the patio,we took a video. It was
a little bit too long to post. I'm having trouble. I got to
find a place for it because itwas we we went deep in. We
went a little along. Burns andI drank each other's drinks. He drove.
He drank a very respectable local brewipa. Looked tremendous, looked delicious.

(46:14):
That's not what you said when Icame over to the table with it.
You thought I got a light beer. By the last I did well
compared to mine. It looked light. It looked a little thin to me.
So I did some research. Imean I checked. I wanted to
make sure this competition was on theup and up and that we were all
doing things authentically. That was abig boy, I mean, that was
a seven point two. What isit abs seven point two that you don't

(46:35):
think a tenth of a percent matters. But once you're above like six point
seven, six point eight, evenfor a dude like me that knows his
way around an ipa like that'll hityou. The percentages go exponentially after that.
But what'd you think, Burnsy?I thought you did a nice job
well, as you saw from myfirst sip together. I still don't understand,

(46:58):
or I guess comprehend how you IPA, people guards E, Chipper
or you the listener, all ofyou. It took me about and I'm
a big guy, six four twoforty like. It took me at forty
five minutes to an hour to finishthat thing because it's so freaking bitter,
Like, I don't enjoy any partof Look, if I'm gonna sit there

(47:21):
and have a beverage, I wantto have a mission with the beverage.
That's why beer and I have neverreally gotten together a mission with the beverage.
Okay, I'm writing that down.That's an interesting take a mission with
the beverage. Yeah, I don'tknow. It was bitter. It took
me a long time. But youknow what, Chipper, I'm proud of
myself because you know what I did. I powered through the entire twelve ounce

(47:43):
or whatever it was. Unlike ourco host who couldn't found his way to
the bottom of a rum runner.You won the challenge. Ridiculous, absolutely
ridiculous that he didn't finish that.But the rum Runner is an absurd drink.
I mean it looked third when itcame out. It was Ryan's rum
runner. They put it on themenu. It was great. It looked

(48:05):
absolutely preposterous. It had a pineappleand it had some other stuff. And
the reason I learned about midway throughthe reason I couldn't finish it. And
by the way, I had enoughI pas later in the night where I
could finish anything. So I didn'tfinish that on the way out. And
but because it had banana liqueur asyou say, and I can't do anything
with banana, like had I knownthere was I'm glad I didn't know there

(48:29):
was banana in there before because Iwouldn't have even tried it, and I
would have lost before we even gotout to the back patio. That was
the big issue for me. Andit just felt thick and gross and syrupy.
And it took you. It tookyou an drink is the opposite of
something. I think it was thebanana stuff. The banana does not sit
well with me. I don't likeanything banana. And it took you an

(48:52):
hour and a half to finish youripa. It took you nine sec.
Chip looked over me because you seehow see how Quickie finished that? It
was like the whole field, howmany licks of the Tutsie pop commercial.
You know, one, two,then you chew it three like that's what
it looked like. It's just absurd, just absurd. I still can't believe
you couldn't finish. What do youthink there was like an eight ounces drink

(49:15):
with the amount of ice in it? Yeah, probably there was not much
in it. There was not muchin it. No, I finished it.
No, you did not. Idid not do. Not say that
to the listeners. I did notfinish. I did because I did.
I mean, I wasn't happy aboutit, but I did it much later
in the evening. It was disgusting, and I mean, I'm glad we
did it, but now I thinkwe each lost respect for each other,

(49:37):
which is, you know, whichis hard to do. But I will
not be ordering that unless if weend up in Tampa again this year or
in the next year's we'll go tothat place that you like down there,
Whiskey Joe's down in Tampa. Wellwe'll knock it out and we'll do it.
So like Burnsey, when you're onthe beach and you're and you get
the tank top going and the hairflowing, and how many of those things

(50:00):
will you drink in a day.Oh boy, Well they're a little pricey.
I don't have that Chips Coggins moneyfrom the startup viewing there, but
I bet you I could polish off. I would also say it depends upon
if they put a one fifty onefloater on top. You were trying to
explain it to us, and itwas we were lost on that whole thing.

(50:21):
So what they would do is theyput it in a little vial.
It's a shot of one fifty oneproof rum that they put on top of
the drink, and that can obviouslyget you where you need to go pretty
quickly. I would say, soyou haven't set a base for the day,
So if there's no floater, Iwould say probably fourish and I'll be

(50:45):
feeling pretty pretty good. Also fromthe sugar high for the amount of sugar
in that drink, but it isI'm telling you, there's nothing better than
that drink after a long day downin the Florida Keys, a long day,
I can't take a less refreshing,nothing less refreshing than that. It
was just horrific. It was justabsolutely horrific. The night before the wedding

(51:07):
when you headbutted the canoe. I'mtaking it. Those had the floaters on
top of him, right man,plenty of floaters. There was a There
was a lot of rum horsing throughmy veins before I took on the challenge
of winning my first foot race infifteen years. There were no winners.
Quickly forgetting to stop for twenty fiveyards and then face planning directly into a

(51:30):
kayak on the wall, there wereno no winners all right, Burns felt
it. Burns, he's got aheart out, so we'll let him go.
We'll get you out of here onthis. In the most predictable thing
of the evening, Burns he grabbeda sheet that the bits of broken chair
trophy people had that had a QRcode on it, looked at me and
said, do you think Chip knowshow to do this? I said,
there is no chance we did getthat video out on social media. I

(51:52):
think all of us have retweeted it. So Chips in a nice conversation with
Mike Grimm and some other guys athis table. I tap him on the
shoulder. I hand him the QRcode that's say can you handle this QR
cord for me? And Chip?You said, ah, I don't know
what my exact words was, butI don't know how to I don't know
how to do that hard menu.Those were your exact words, I don't

(52:12):
know how to do that. Andthen my favorite part, Bernsey is I
told Chip the other day when hecame out to the fair booth, was
the wave off? He gave methe old man wave off. He said,
I don't know how to do that. I don't even know how to
do that, and then he lookedat me, waved me off, and
just turned around and continued his conversation. There was So if you want Chip
to donate to your charity, you'regonna have to ask him for a check
because he's not going to be ableto navigate the QR code. No.

(52:35):
I my wife either hands me thephone or I asked for the menu at
the restaurant. I just want tohold the menu. I don't want to
I understand scan something. I wantto. I want the menu in my
hand so I can turn it over, flip it back, look at the
whole thing top to bottom without havingto scroll on the phone. I understand.
Let's bring back menus, bring backthere's a new T shirt bringing back

(52:59):
menus. I'm sure our listeners agreewith me. Bring back menus? What
where did they go? That's thepodcast question. Let us know after we
tweet this episode out, should webring back menus or should we all advance
into twenty twenty three? Are yourteam? Scoggins are your team? Everybody
else? Bring back menus? Bringback menus. Chip. I would have

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thought like over covid because of theamount of QR codes that popped up on
things, because everybody was trying tobe That's when it started, was covid.
Yes, yeah, yeah, Iknow that. But if I went
to it figured out that all yougotta do, all you gotta do a
chipperke a picture of it or somethingright getting close. You just click on
the camerap on your phone and youhad and you put it. You just

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hold it right there. Link thattries to put link will come right there
for you. And that's as simpleas it is. It's hit the camera
button and then you put it onthe QR code and then there's a link
that says can I pop up?And you were gonna let that thing pop
I'll try it. And then there'sthe if I if I went to a
restaurant, you the hat at mywife wouldnair or somebody didn't have it.

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Everybody's got a burger. Just giveme a burger, right, Let's just
keep it simple. Just give mea burger. Gacy Chip going table to
table like, hey, do youget the do you get the menu?
Up? I just look at yourphone for a second. I just only
needed for ten seconds. Do theyhave a burger? Okay? Bring with
the modern offense, bringing back menus, bring back menus, brings all right.

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On that note, we gotta go. Burns. He's got a heart
out. I'm tired and cranky.We'll see everybody Thursday night. Come see
us, Come see Burnsy and Ion the pregame show Mary Ucci Arena probably
like five forty five thirty somewhere aroundthere. We'll figure it out. Burnsy,
I'll text you have a good event. Go put your shirt on,
do all the buttons. Chip,Good luck to you doing whatever you're doing
tonight. I have no idea Andthanks again to Jack's Cafe for helping us

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