2024 Week Eleven Review: Deflating Loss at Rutgers, Missed Opportunities, CFP Talk

Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard return to discuss a deflating Gophers loss at Rutgers. The micro missed opportunities in the game in all three phases lead to a loss and potentially a missed opportunity to get into the rankings and a trip to Florida for a bowl game. Parity has been a theme in college football season and the guys examine just how unique and crazy it can be on a weekly basis before talking about the excitement the new playoff format has brought to the regular season.    

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota, you need a Pair and a Spare.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thank you, PJ. Welcome into another edition of the Pair
and a Spare podcast. We are presented by Jack's Cafe.
I'm justin guard from the fan. We've got Chip Schoggins
still from football across Minnesota, the Rockinburns from Gopher Illustrated
dot Com. We're taping this a little bit early because
of some scheduling stuff, which is good. Let's get this
bye week edition into the can and what a morning.
It's already been Pair and a Spare listeners to just

(00:26):
get Chip Scoggin's technical difficulties and issues that we had
a week ago all ironed out. I just wish everybody
could have been behind the curtain there. Burnsey on what
we did to get this thing going, to try to
give the listeners who we love and appreciate so much
that they're there like clockwork every single week, to try
to give them a good experience. I hope people understand

(00:46):
what we just went through to get our guy, Anthony
Scoggins up to speed here for a week whatever this
is of the twenty twenty fourth season.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
We apologized for last week's technical difficulties with the echo
and some different other different audio, different different things there.
But let me tell you, we've were trying to get
Chip all squared away. My favorite part of the last
few minutes is Chip moving away from his laptop, so
that that's because he thought that's where the speakers were

(01:15):
coming from as he's wearing a headset. So Chip, we
hope that this is the redemption arc that you get
to write about in football across Minnesota, you versus technology.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I can't hear a damn thing. This is coming through
fine for for the listeners that badgered me all week
because my audio was terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I could tell it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm like, shit, huh, speak.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Up, We'll speak up. We'll speak up, and I I
take I'm gonna do my PJ fluck here. Everything that
happened last week fault on me. It's my responsibility to
make sure that the audio was good. I knew something
was amiss. We figured it out immediately after we said
by to Chip a week ago, because he was running
off to a project. Burnsy and I stayed and talked
for like another hour Chip, just the two of us.

(02:02):
I bet and it was it was interesting, But I
take full responsibility for what happened. I'm in charge of
the technology, and we're just going to keep our ore
in the water and we're going to keep moving forward.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Well, you can't help that my hearing's gone bad. Like
when I'm I'm at the stage now, I'm not going
to do hear in a's no way. But like if
we go out to dinner and we're like, we're friends,
if you're on the other side of the table, we're
we're in a restaurant's loud. I'm reading lips. You know. Yeah,
I'm probably smiling and nodding as you're talking, but I

(02:34):
just want to cool you in. I can't. I can't
understand the damn word you're saying. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, it's all those mornings you spent in the duck
blind with shotguns blasting right next ten years, for so
many years. I only can assume that it's responsible for
the tonight as you now have. But what's wrong with
hearing aids? They make them very compact, very sleek, very
not noticeable at this stage.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
And very expensive. I think I remember my mom bless
her when she was uh, she couldn't hear we'd think
about getting her one. Those things are expensive, so I
think I'd rather be deaf than spend money on that.
I'm I'm tight with the money, right, I don't spend well.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
We're looking, always looking for new sponsors. Maybe Miracle or
we'll bring us the parent of Spare podcast is Chip
Ages gracefully into his you know, six decade anyway, that's great.
I think we're good. I think we're okay and hopefully this,
hopefully this works. Appreciate everybody hanging in to just get
I live my life as you guys know nothing to me.

(03:31):
I wake up every day figuring out how can we
just make a bit out of this and enjoy this
and drive this into the ground. Life is hard. We've
all got issues. Everybody's got something if you can't have
fun with it and make fun of it and make
it part of your being copyright Ryan Burns, Hollyween Halloween, Baby,
you know what are we even doing here? So I'm

(03:51):
fine when things go wrong because it just gives us
something else to make fun of. And again everything falls
back on me. I was a bad audio producer last week,
and hopefully we'll move forward with all of this. All
right now that we got that out of the way.
What a disappointment at Rutgers. I'm trying to take a
step back with the Vikings too, because the Vikings had
a dreadful game on Sunday and I didn't get to

(04:13):
watch that live. I actually just watched it before I
jumped on with you guys, and yeah, it was pretty bad,
but they found a way to win. And I'm looking
at it and it's okay. They're seven and two. Everybody
would have signed up for that. Everybody would have taken that.
I look at this Gophers thing that they're I think,
what sixth in the Big Ten right now, Burnsy, technically
tied with Iowa. They're in the top third of the
Big Ten. With two weeks to go, They're six and four.

(04:34):
They've gone over the Vegas over under. All of that
is good, all of that is appreciated. But I can't
forget that they just won four games in a rown
and put themselves in a really good spot to really
solidify a great Bowl game and a good spot and
just really came up short in all areas against Rutgers.
And so forty eight hours after that game, Burnsy, I'm
still pretty deflated. If I'm a Gopher fan from a

(04:58):
really difficult and unexplainable in some ways loss on Saturday
in Piscataway, you just got back. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, I think the more I've been able to separate
away from it, I just think that team looked worn
down for whatever the reason, whether it was just the
physicality of that game against Illinois their third game in
a row, their tenth game of the season, they just
came out flat and they paid the price for it
defensively in the first half.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
And then I.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Would argue that fourth quarter was probably one of the
worst performances from the offensive line in the Fleck era.
I mean, they ran ten plays on their first four
drives in the fourth quarter, negative ten yards, turnover in
his safety and essentially Max Brosmor the entire length of
those ten plays was immediately under Durest. But Chip, I

(05:47):
just thought they were They looked tired. They looked in
Rutgers coming off the bye week, backed into a corner
at home without Manungai, they knew they had to come
out hungry, and I just thought they were the hungri
your team back.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, I don't know if it was tired as much
as they just did not have the edge that we've seen,
the competitive edge that we've seen during that during that
winters streak when he turned their season a round. I
thought the the defensive line lost big time in the
first half. Yeah, matchup, I didn't understand.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
The whole Uh, we'll get out a pressure.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
And then the defensive bass were playing ten years off.
I mean, I know klik Mans is an erratic passer,
but if you're not getting pressure and you're playing off,
he's going to complete passes.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
The offensive line, that was one of the poorest performances
I've seen from a Gopher offensive line in a long
long time. That was I mean there was no and
Darius Taylor's not healthy, but there was nowhere to run.
I mean he was getting hit at the line or
behind the line.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Brosemer as we've seen at other times during the season.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
North Carolina, Iowa. I thought was impacted by the rush.
It got to him. It sped him up in ways
that he doesn't typically show that he's he just didn't
look steady at all to me. Special teams you know, Uh,
there's a critical error there that that showed up. They've

(07:13):
been taking care of the ball. They had to fumble
at the worst possible place that you can do it.
It was just a when you think about they had
won four in a row, all the things that was
on the line in terms of, hey, this could be
a Florida Bowl game here. For them to put that
on on the field, I'm I understand why why people

(07:34):
are disappointed and we hear the same old typical Gophers.
This is what they do, this is what happens under PJ.
They have these inexplainable losses. I don't know if it's
inexplainable I explainab I just think that they're not good
enough as a program to play sloppy and think that
you're just gonna come out even if you're playing a
team that's lost four. In a way, you're just not

(07:54):
They're just not at that level where you can do that.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
They I've seen some people try to compare this to
the Northwestern loss last year or the Bowling Green one
from a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
To me, that's an emotional reaction. Correct, that's an emotional
Saturday reaction.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
But anyway, Yeah, I just it doesn't make a lot
of sense to me. With some of the different things
that happened. I mean, do you mentioned that first half
game plan? Defensively, I have no idea why Minnesota sat
in as many base situations as they were. I mean,
you think about Corey Heathman's defense and their helter skelter.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
They're chaotic, They changed the picture. They make it difficult.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
And we all know the splits on Athan calliac mannis
we all know first half versus second half that came true. Again,
we all know under pressure versus kept clean. He's got
all the arm talent in the world. Yet they were
content with rushing for I think tempo really screwed with them,
especially in a couple of Keith or downs. They were

(08:54):
not ready for tempo. It just felt like Shiraka had
Heatherman's had where he wanted him in the first half.
Now heather been adjusted in the second half and Athan
goes three of thirteen, but the damage had already been
done when eighth and throws for two hundred and fourteen
yards in the first half.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Chip well, and also think, and I know fans, you know, say, oh,
their receivers are pushing off and all that they did,
but their receivers were more physical than the Gophers corners.
I just thought they out battled them for some one
on one and if they're not gonna call it, you've
got to figure out a way to, you know, to
be better there. And I just thought Rutgers receivers were

(09:31):
better than their corners there in the first half in
terms of just going up and fighting for a ball
or pushing off or just being more physical.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, what were the numbers, Burnsy, I mean, they've been there,
you know, close to the top, and interceptions in the country,
they're close to the top, and passes defended in the country. Right,
they've been good all season long. And yeah, I didn't
think anybody defensively had a good half from the top
on down, you know, from the way they tried to
run it. Like Burnsy said, a defensive line wasn't there.
This defense has feasted on negative play. They feasted on

(10:01):
a big sack or a tackle for loss, and all
of a sudden it's second and fourteen or third and
you know, third and sixteen, And in the second half
they finally got those. The second half was I mean,
if you even got anywhere near that defensive performance in
the first half, you're probably talking about a different game.
But Rutgers and Eighthan just got to sit back there
and chill, and you know, it was a third down
pass on the Ethan Robinson deep shot right like he's

(10:23):
he's right, that's a third down. You get a breakup,
you get off the field. I mean, I thought that
could have been an interception, Wally. It looked like I mean,
if you've stopped the freeze frame, it looked like a
seventy five percent chance it was going to be intercepted.
And then he just vanished. He just got pushed out
of the screen.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
He literally got pushed out of the way.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And he was gone. And sure you can call that,
that's fine, but there were just too many of those.
And on the flip side, the Gopher receivers, you know,
I know Daniel Jackson, you know, had his issues all
day with the shoulder pads being popped out of his jersey,
like you said, Burnsey, and he's usually good for one
or two of those a game, you know, a pass
interference called for whatever the reason, they weren't getting the calls,
they didn't get to Maybe they didn't earn the calls.

(11:01):
I don't know, But if you wanted to just break
it down to those two. Like Rutgers wide receivers went
up and made Gopher defenders pay, Gopher wide receivers didn't
necessarily do the same thing. And it was a tail
of two halves really for both because I thought the
offense did some okay things in the first half, and
then in the second half, after that first drive, which
was a great drive to kind of resettle things, and

(11:22):
it reminded me of UCLA a little bit, they did
absolutely nothing. They had multiple opportunities to just put that
game away in the second half, and despite all the
things that we just talked about, and they just weren't
able to do it. And then a bad fumble you
put Tea in the meat grinder, and then before you
know it, you're six and four instead of seven and three.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Burn Sea, Well, that's where you're only two touchdown drives.
It's the opening one of the game and then the
opening one of the second half, and then it just
seemingly once they got off the script, their offensive line
just couldn't do anything. Now, I'd also note one of
the things I looked at on Pro Football Focus was
Rutgers defense missed one tackle all day one. I've never
seen a number that LOWPI. Minnesota missed fifteen tackles. I'd

(12:03):
also even get a little bit further where Gopher ball
carriers the running backs missed forced one misstackle all day.
Rutgers forced eleven miss tackles. It just when your players
aren't playing well and their players are too. I think
that's a big part of it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, I mean I thought even though they had their
stud running back out, I thought they actually ran the
ball sort of effectively there at times. And they were
just more physical in the trenches I thought than the
Gophers were. And mean, Taylor is clearly not healthy. He
wasn't he wasn't gonna right.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
What do you mean he wasn't an availability report?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, I don't care what the veltability report says. That
didn't look like Darius Taylor running. But it didn't help
that he was getting hit at the line and there
was no place to go. I mean, as talented as
he is, there's a limitation to it. You mean, you
gotta have a little help up front, and I just
don't think he got it. I don't.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
We've talked about the defensive line since Week one here,
just the inconsistency and how they'll play well for stretches
and not well for stretches. And you know last week
they you know, against Illinois they did I mean I
thought they maybe turned a corner, you know, figure something out.
But I mean that's the whole one. It's hard to
reconcile the way they played. I mean, just how how

(13:24):
much their inability to hold the line and at least
draw an edge or and you know, be even in
that matchup, it impacted that game. I just thought it
was everything started there.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
It's I just don't understand what games they will play
well and which ones they won't. Because you look at
the four and one stretch that Minnesota's on. They played
well against USC arguably their best game of the year.
Great they won next week against UCLA one of the
worst first halfs offensively of the year. They figured it
out in the second half. They were able to pass
protect against Maryland, they couldn't really run the football. Last

(13:58):
week against Illinois one of their best performances of the season.
And then you have a game like they did on Saturday,
where just a collective systems failure, especially in that fourth
quarter that I'll keep pointing to it. Or Minnesota goes
into that fourth quarter leading by two, and why can't
Minnesota put it away like they had in these previous games. Defensively,

(14:20):
we can can get into it with some missed opportunities there,
especially late in the third quarter two, but their offensive
line couldn't pass protect to save their life. And the
thing that I struggle with is they were only rushing
four for most of these times. I mean, there was
one play chip if you remember, Max Brosberg takes a
shotgun snap, turns his shoulders and he gets obliterated and
fumbles the football because he's thinking, no one's gonna get

(14:43):
on me instantaneously like this.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Was that the one right up the middle where yes,
there's miscommunicat ye, I don't know with the center. Yeah, yeah,
and Brozemer was I do wonder because I felt like
this at the Carolina game where he his accuracy, which
is a lot of quarterbacks is not just Brozmer, but
his accuracy was impacted by that rush, and I felt

(15:06):
like he got he started getting antsy because he understood
that his protection's not there, and he I have to
think that contributed to some of his wildness throwing the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, in that second half, you miss a pick six
you miss a strip sack, you miss pinning them back
at the one. Yeah, like I'm going for football Sunday.
I just basically made it a missed opportunities deal because
with the loss, you miss an opportunity to be seven
and three, five and two in the Big Ten. You're
probably ranked in two weeks when Penn State comes back, right,
I mean, you're probably sneaking into the rankings or at

(15:39):
least a receiving votes team, and we finally get to go.
You know that bar that Burnsy thinks he hung out
with me at in Tampa in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,
what's it called, Whiskey Joe's or whatever? Yeap, Whiskey Joe's,
the bar that Burnsy's convinced we hung out at. We
actually could have done it, or we could have almost

(16:00):
put it in pen and started to make some make
some accommodations and chip. We would have been able to
ask if you were coming, which we know you're probably not.
But those are all the those are all the missed
opportunities in the game, the micro part of it and
then the macro of it. I mean, just to think
to have the four playoff teams in the Big ten

(16:20):
right now Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana, and Penn State and
then the go for fifth ye below all of those
right now, and I'm with two weeks to go, like
and again, they can win the next two and they
can be eight and four and they're probably gonna end
up in there. I think the betting money is they
split them and it's seven and five and in the
new Big ten. You know, we're gonna have to define

(16:40):
is that a good season or not? But it's just
too bad. It's just too bad because we could have
all burns. He could have gone through his phone today
to look at all those pictures from that bar with
rum Runners to try to find out where I was
when I was nowhere near him. I was in clear
Water for that whole week.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, you talked about the fans emotional reaction, and I
understand it completely because to me, this scar tissue that
goes back to the blown losses and then when you
had the Big ten West an opportunity to win it,
and you had that, they would have that game where
you build up this you know, uh, optimism and excitement
within the fan base and hey, they're gonna have a chance,
y'uring really good during a driver's seat in a couple

(17:16):
of those years, if they just take care of business
to win the Big ten West and they have a
loss that seems inexplainable that they just don't perform well,
they have a kind of a letdown, whether whatever reason,
and so you don't win the Big ten West. So
this is even though the West is gone. When you
have a win like that. In some ways, I think

(17:37):
fans were looking at this as hey, maybe they get
one of those New Year Day games. Yeah, you know,
maybe get one of those fun warm weather things. And
if you just win there, you can split probably the
last two and you and you probably get there. This
I think knocks you out of that, and so it's
more difficult. Yeah, yeah, And so that that's where I
think fans like, really, I mean, they go through this

(18:00):
every year. We went through this when there was a
Big ten West where they just had that one game
where it knocks them off. You know, it knocks this narrative,
It changes the narrative. And so I I understand the frustration,
and I feel like OVERHS are a better team than Rutgers,
but they played poorly. It picked a bad day to
play poorly.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
They did I even have seen people will be like, well,
imagine if they would have beatn North Carolina or pulled
it out and some of their other ones that they
probably should have won.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I all also flip two. Okay, well they could have
lost us.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, you can do it all.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
You can do it all day.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
What they should have would have could it is what
it is?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, you know. I also think of the mister opportunities
that guards he mentioned within that game defensively where it's
Minnesota's leading, I think by two. In that late third quarter,
Ethan Robinson season when drilling in the chest deflex up
into the air, he catches it sixty five yard pick
six easily. Game flips on its head because Ethan was
not playing well in that second half. The next play,

(18:58):
Anthony Smith gets a ripsack, hits Devin Eastern and.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
The knee and can't recover it.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, that would have been your best field position of
the day offensively, And then I think the one that
probably turned the game was the start of the fourth
quarter where it's sixteen and joh Joyner get your chands
to the face. Rutgers would have had to punt from
the back of the end zone. Their punter was dreadful.
Minnesota never had an offensive drive start past their own
thirty five. You're up to it's reasonable to think you

(19:25):
can at least get some points there, let alone a touchdown,
and that game flips. But that's where this had been
a one of the most opportunistic defenses in college football
the entire season, and then when they had their opportunities
in that second half, they just it just didn't go
their way. I mean it's not just the offense, it's
not just the defense. I mean we can talk PJ
and different things too, but yeah, it's a missed opportunity

(19:48):
on all fronts.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, the joh Joder one, I mean, a veteran player
has to be smarter. Now, you got to know that
you just can't make that get your hand up there
and do that. The PJ one, did you this? This
This annoyed me, not like I lost sleep over it,
but into the first half, when they throw that pass
on second down, they did Gophers a favor there, So

(20:10):
now they have to run it on third It is
probably twelve fifteen seconds, I guess, and PJ doesn't call
time out there to make them punt it to you.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, why don't.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Why don't you call time out there because you can
have I know your offense has been you know you're
the first half was a mess and you probably take it.
Let's just get to halftime and regroup. But they could
have a bad snap, they could have a shanked punt.
You could have Coorey Parrits return one and set up
a long field or return it for a touchdown. To
not call a time out there and just let those

(20:42):
last twelve seconds click off with that giving you chance.
I didn't understand that.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Or you're even the one where Rutgers lines up off
sides on a punt.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Oh yeah, I collect the declineate.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Which guards your theory makes me even more angry about
why he declined it.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah. Well, my theory on that is is Crawford was
under duress all day. He had a couple of punts,
his best punts, where he just basically line drives it
off one step just to get it out of his hands.
I think PJ was paranoid about getting a punt blocked
again because they were close a couple of times, and
so he just said, we got one off clean. It's
thirty eight. That's about what our punter gets us anyway, right,
I mean, it's been year after year after year after

(21:19):
year after that. So that's my theory. I'm not saying
I excuse it or understand it necessarily, But I'm.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Almost a special teams coordinator with thirty five years of experience.
I can't adjust a punt coverage to where they're coming from.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
That is my biggest by the way, Chipper Burnsey has
publicly apologized multiple times to Rob Wanger, and but as
Burnsy mentioned, though he knows, given that he's been blocked
by every member of the Wanger family on all forms
of communication, you may you may as well just go
outside right now, Burns. And I'm sorry, Rob Winger. He

(21:55):
has a better chance of hearing it than anything else
I've seen.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
There. Did that annoy you guys at the end the
first safford? Did you not?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm it again. It's just to me, it's it's it
is what it is. I'm always in favor of giving
Coy Parritch another opportunity, even though he hasn't really had
a good return in a while. Right, I'm always in
favor of giving him one last opportunity or an extra
opportunity because, to quote the Great Chips Goggins. You never know,
you never know what he could possibly do there. I

(22:22):
think he probably does because they were getting the ball
to start the second half right the go ferst. Yeah,
but that I think informs a lot of Pj's decisions
on a lot of this. He's like, let's if we're
getting the ball, it's just his philosophy. Let's just let's
just get there and and get to halftime and we'll
try to figure some stuff out. And they came right
out and scored. It was probably their best drive of
the game, ye know, with the beautiful with a beautiful
pass to Marcus Major for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I just I it annoyed me. I just I.
I think he tried to get as many opportunities to
score as you can, and that felt like you had
an opportunity to call time out and get a punt
and you might block one, the kid might kick one
out of many. I don't know. It just felt like,
why are you not even trying to get something here.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
The only other thing I want to air my grievance
on is the defensive line, because I don't really understand
why they don't play many defensive line and they have
like twenty guys on scholarship, Yet I look at the
snaps after the game. Jalen Logan reading played seventy snaps out.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Of the seventy four to way too many.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
You have twenty guys on scholarship, you travel about thirteen
of them, and I look up at the snaps after
the game, and they only play about five defensive linemen.
So what value do guys some of the older guys
have some of the younger guys have if you don't
trust them to play, I think that's playing into Why
doesn't Minnesota's pass rush show up in the first half, Well,

(23:45):
they probably played a ton of snaps the last few
games because Minnesota refuses to rotate. And we heard all
off season from Flak and the defensive coaches, you know
we love our depth. Well, okay, you're in game ten.
This is where your depth should be playing. Yet you
only play five defensive lineman essentially at this point.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, if you're playing a defensive lineman seventy snatch, you're
setting yourself up for problems. We're gonna get work. I mean,
it's just I remember being out there in fall camp
talking to PJ about the versatility and all the numbers
they have there and guys at the depth that they have,
and so you were thinking that maybe this is the
best depth that they've had in a while along that line.

(24:22):
But if you're only playing five guys over a twelve
game season, they're gonna wear down, They're gonna get beat up.
I mean, it's it's mean. I know you get two buys,
but that's just just way too many snaps for a.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Guy, and your guy, Anthony Smith shows up in a
big way in the second half. I think Cody Linnenberg
has probably played the best month of football of his
career and also coincides with the healthiest that Cody Linnenberg
has been in probably two years. But you just can't
play the way that you did, especially in the fourth
quarter offense, defense, special teams and some interesting coaching decisions

(24:56):
within there, and be able to go beat a four
and four Rutgers team.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
You just you can't play that way.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well you miss you mentioned the mistackles, I mean Perrits.
I think he had two back to backer there on
the on that late touchdown he slipped out of his
arms there and we've seen it a couple of times
here from him last two weeks. I wonder if he's
starting to hit that freshman. This is a lot of
snaps wall type thing.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Which would be his returning hasn't been as explosive either.
You know, he slipped on the one, and I'm all
for it, Like I'll always live with losing four yards
if he gets tackled at the twenty one or whatever. Yeah,
because there's been a couple this year where it feels
like I think even in the Rutger, I think in
that game he was I think one one tackle away
from popping one. So it's still the right play in

(25:39):
my opinion.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yep, Yeah, I just you know it'll lead into the
other discussion of just like where the big ten is.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
At outside of the top four teams.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I honestly think you could pick Team five through Team
sixteen right now and they're all out and on any
of a given.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Saturday, that touchdown spread, just like it was without.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Manungai was only six points, right, Like, this is the
parody that we've all been asking for. Is the floor
of the bottom teams has never been higher. And I
would also say some of these other upper echelon teams,
it's on any given Saturday.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Now you got to play well well, and.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
We've seen it. UCLA very well could be on a
four game win a streak right now.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Are you while I'm coming out Anthony about how the
Gophers lit a fire under U C. L A and
now they're one of the hottest teams in college football?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Well, I remember being up because of the timing and deadline.
You guys went down to the press coffs. I couldn't
do it because of the deadline. But they played the
press conferences in Yeah, they played the press conferences in
the in the they had the sound piped into the
press boxes. De Sean Foster was as frustrating as and

(26:49):
and uh angry with that missed opportunity. I think they
had that one on there because of what they had
played the four games previous. I mean, they had that
four game gauntlet that was just you know, was it LSU, Oregon,
Penn State and someone else I can't remember, but it
was four really, oh Indiana, you know, four teams. But

(27:11):
like when you watch that team that night, you said,
this team has some talent. It's not a town issue.
I mean, they're just undisciplined and if they didn't have
all those penalty they would have won the game. If
they'd got one more yard on that third down after
PG Punnett, the would have won that game. So UCLA
is better than probably their record shows you're right. I mean,
I just think once you get five through eighteen, well,

(27:31):
five through I think produce really bad. But five through
probably sixteen, you can toss them up. I mean, because
there's not a big difference.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
By the way Perdue should have beaten Illinois. I mean,
Purdue had that barn burner of a game with Illinois.
I'm just pulling up the standings here just to kind
of give people that perspective.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Seth ranked team in the Big Ten right now just
by conference record and everything is USC. Yeah, USC liable
to beat any of these teams in the Big Ten,
you know, five eighteen on any given Saturday.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well, I remember earlier in the year we thought, hey,
this could be a playoff team after their first couple
of games, the way they playing defense.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I told you to slow down. Remember that. I A
that nobody. The two things nobody likes to do more
is react to Nebraska, who by the way, is not
yet Bowl eligible they're five and four oh and overreact
to USC's defense, who, by the way four and five.
Nobody likes to do that. Yeah, you look from you
just look from Wisconsin. Who the Gophers having a couple

(28:28):
of weeks, So what are they? They're in eighth place
right now if I do that correctly, there's four, they're six,
there's eight, yeah, eight, all the way down to seventeen.
That's five and four to four and five. That's three
and three to one in five. Maryland's got a bad
Big Ten record, but a bunch of teams are just
in that two and four, three and four Big Ten record, Washington, Michigan, UCLA,

(28:49):
Like it does make it compelling every week. If you're
a fan, it's probably hard to like, say, where is
this thing actually gonna go? You know where? What are?
What team are? There's just gonna be a lot of
seven and fives in five, five and sevens, I think
for the next couple of years while this whole thing
evens out, which to me, I think is interesting because
any given week you can have a good moment, you
can also be flying back from Piscataway going how did

(29:11):
that happen?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah? Well it definitely. If you're a coach, it's easy
to sell your team on this. You know because you
put those stands in there. It's like the difference between
those teams. And I hate to sound like an NFL
coach or because that's what we always hear, is like,
it really is a player two right, I mean it is.
You go back to UCLA as people say, what if

(29:33):
we won North Carolina, if we won this Ucla, they
get that they can for that third down games over
now we're thinking differently, you know it. So it really is.
I think every team could probably go through and say, man,
if we've done this or that, our season could be flip.
But you con sid here and do that all day
because everybody's doing it and cancel each other out right.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, Burnsy, That's why I always say, it's why in
my opinion, and this is even before this year, I've
always said this college coaches go crazy because it's always
it comes down to three to five plays every game, yep,
between these even teams. I remember Jerry Kill used to say,
when you have two bad teams, it's fifteen plays that
decide the game, and you don't get any of them.

(30:12):
When you're an okay team, it's ten and you get
a few of them. And then when it's two good teams.
It's like four plays. He goes of all the crap
we do, the eighty hour weeks, all the game planning,
the film breakdown, the tricks, the secret seeds, the binoculars,
all of it comes down to like four plays and
you have no idea when they're coming. Yeah, you look

(30:32):
at Michigan, the Gopher Michigan game. It's the Daniel Jackson
fumble and it's the black punt. Like those two plays
change that whole game of all the stuff that happened.
Vice presidential candidates there to wall like Randy Burn is
there from Sports Byline USA. He's chronically it. He doesn't
know when the plays are going to be.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
But what was he chronically it?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Because I will die on the hill of Google Randy
Burn Sports Byline USA, he doesn't exist. I'm putting on
my tinpoil hat. That man was a plant for some organization.
You're right associated with security.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
You were unwittingly part of some type of sting.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Or it's gonna come out in the that it's gonna
come out in the playoffs that some mysterious figure named
Randy Burn, and they're gonna lead you away in handcuffs
they're gonna storm your house.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Where great, and we're gonna get those shirts that somebody
put on Gopher illustrates three Randy burn I'm gonna be
wearing that at the Music City Ball, you know, when
the when the Gopers are taking on an SEC team.
But that is like we we can talk about all
these things, but that's also to get back to the
original point. That's why you can't be sloppy. That's why
you can't. When you have an opportunity to get a

(31:40):
pick six, you gotta take it. When you have a
strip sack, you got to come up with the fumble.
When you have an opportunity to pen theiment the one
on the punt, and you somehow can't do that, you
got it. Like the margins are so small. That's why
college coaches, in my opinion, go crazy because they they
work their whole careers and all off season and all
week during practice to limit those self inflicted wounds, and

(32:03):
they often come up. I mean, think about USC with
the strips of the interception joh Joyner. If they don't
have that, USC probably kicks a field goal. They're up
ten of the game's over, right, And we're never talking
about Koy Parritch's interception, the picture that's now being autographed
for Dickey Town athletes members all across the Upper Midwest.
We're never talking about that, right, So it's just buckle
up and strap in and hope. I mean, even in

(32:25):
two weeks against Penn State, we can do a quick
little look ahead before we break and go around the
Big ten. But would anybody be surprised if the Gophers
beat Penn State in a couple of weeks. They're gonna
have to play well. They can't have all the things
that we that we brought up. But I don't think
Penn State is anas.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's the Oregon and the Ohio State in Indiana's I
think they are a many tier below. Now they're playing well,
but it's gonna be the fifth consecutive game by the
time they come into Hunting to Bank Stadium where Minnesota
gets the bye week. But it's almost like we talked
about coming into the season, boys, this three game stretch
in between the buys, we're all coin flip games. And
guess what the Maryland one turned out not to be.

(33:03):
But the Illinois game could have gone very differently. The
Rutgers game went the way that it did. I also
think even zooming out thirty thousand foot view going two
and one in that stretch to be now Bowl eligible
and not have to worry about that. We'll talk about
it when we get to some of these other Big
Ten teams like Wisconsin and Nebraska specifically, and so many
of these teams are going to be fighting for their

(33:23):
lives just to get to a bowl game, and they're
all going to be facing one another. It's just it
is missed opportunities. I just think even if say you
were to have pulled out the North Carolina game and
Cassidge hits that kick, well, say you you don't get
the bounce in the Rose Bowl, it all would have
just evened out at that point to.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Me, right right, all right? Anything else from this game
we want to talk about before we pause? Did you
air all your grievances? Burns, You've been looking out your
window a lot, like listfully, It's like, I've never seen
you look out your window this much.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Deer out there.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I wish there was a deer out there now.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
It's let me tell you, it is whimdy out there today,
boys watching things blow past.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I guess I won't go outside today I was really
planning on getting some good mother.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Age forty degrees with a strong north wind. You need
to have the kids and some coats.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, trust me. We had that argument today about seven
thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I love. We just don't want to wear coats.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
They don't want to wear they don't want to wear pants.
They want to wear shorts. And I remember that I
was in Minnesota that only elementary school was shorts under
my pants because if I got a little hot out
there while we were playing you know, five hundred or
Killed the Carrier. You know, with what a smart game
that is on the black top of Conquered Elementary Kill
the Carrier? What could possibly go wrong with a bunch
of fourth graders tackling each other on the cement. I

(34:40):
wanted to wear shorts too, So that's what I always say.
I understand, I understand.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
So we had a different name for that game back
in my day. I definitely can't say it. You can't
say anymore, even at that age. But they have changed
the name for that.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yep, we've made some progress. I don't think we're all
the way there, but we've made still progress. What a
great time to break, What a great time to go
to break and talk about our friends at Jack's Cafe.
They've made progress because they've been around for ninety plus years.
Jack's Cafe has stood the test of time, generation after
generation after generation. And that's because you know exactly what
you're gonna get when you go to Jack's Cafe. You're
gonna get free parking, which Chip loves. The logistics are

(35:15):
all out of the way, you're gonna get a great food,
you're gonna get impeccable service, The vibe is undefeated. And
how about the tweet we got over the weekend. Guys,
there was a Wisconsin Badger fan and his family that
they said, where else where should we go for an
eighty year old birthday party other than Jack's Cafe and
shout out that young that young man was. You know,
Jax was ten years old when that young man came

(35:37):
into the world and they've both lasted this long. So
congratulations for both of them. And what a great I mean,
that's a perfect spot for just a great, classy, awesome
time for everybody to celebrate a life well lived that's
continuing to go on. Hopefully the Badger fan celebrates ninety
at Jack's Cafe. We love those, so please keep those coming.
We love that you guys. Check out Jack's make your

(35:58):
reservation Burnsy at Jackson.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, that's where I just made a reservation this past
week for after the season. I like to take my
wife to a nice dinner just to be able to relax,
kind of get something in before Christmas before everything gets hectic.
And I've said it before, I'll say it again. For
my money, it's the best steak in town. It's easy
to get to chip. And what's that type of assert
you love to.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
H cram brewlay baby best Cranberrey Lake crim Brewlay that
I've ever had. And that's no exaggeration. I'm not just
saying it. I loved it, and send us those photos
that nothing makes my day more, It's true. Then we
get a cool photo like that. Do you see that
big table, There's what eight to ten people there all time.
So we said one a week, let's up it. Let's

(36:43):
get a couple a week of people sending this those
photos from their visits to Jack because that that makes
Bill happy, it makes us happy. It's a great partnership
and we love seeing those.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well, and it's that time of year where you are
getting together with old friends. You're getting together with family.
So if you want to do it, you know, a
family dinner, Jackscafe dot com. If you want to do
a family party or an office party, holiday party, they've
got rooms for fifteen, They've got rooms for four hundred.
You can even be hanging out in a room where
the little Brown jug has been if you're a big
Gopher fan. After the Gophers won and I think in

(37:14):
nineteen seventy seven, I think that's what burned upstairs Jenner
or what Bill said. He said, Yeah, cal Stall had
it up here. They brought it in after the Gophers
meat Michigan. So you're a part of living history when
you go to Jack's Cafe. So make your reservations at
Jack's Cafe. It's Jaxcafe dot com. What else do we
want to talk about, guys, Chipper, you sent me an

(37:35):
interesting tweet?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, college just tweet, Yeah about college football and just
this has been a one my most enjoyable years of
watching just as a fan, because I'm on record at
I started out early on as a traditionalist who said
let's keep it at for the playoff because you know,

(38:00):
I thought it. I thought it would impact the drama
of the regular season and the weekly build up. But
that was totally wrong. It's enhanced it, it's added more
to it. And I think the portal, as much as
we complain about it, only when you lose a player,
not when you gain player.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
But we don't like the portal. Golfer fans don't like
the portal except their quarterback, the best one they had.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's right. But without a doubt, it has impacted college
football in a way that's brought more parody than we've seen.
We're seeing teams that remaking themselves on the fly. We're
seeing all these pop up great seasons from you know,
programs that you weren't expecting. And I don't know how
much Indiana is related to the portal, but I just

(38:49):
think in general, the portal has allowed teams to plug
critical areas, whether you need a quarterback or you know,
defensive back, what have you. But I just think this
this football season has been so good in terms of
giving us storylines, more storylines, and more teams haven't unexpected

(39:09):
success than what we've seen in recent years, well years.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, I'll even read the tweet you sent. It's from
I believe you nuncee it the last name here is
it Cubulic.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
From ESPN.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I mean, You've got BYU with their fifth ever nine
and o start. You've got Indiana with a ten win
season for the first time ever. Oregon is the third
Big Ten team to win ten games in their first
season in the conference. You have Colorado which is now
seven and two. In my thought is, they went from
being overtalked about for how bad they were last year

(39:42):
right now everybody got that out of the system and
nobody wants to talk about Colorado this year now that
they're seven and two, potentially in line to get into
the College Football Playoff if they can beat BYU, if
that shapes up here in a few weeks. You've got
Army with their best start ever thirteen wins in a row,
nine to zero. That's what the portal has done. And
that's where I even look at it. From the Minnesota

(40:04):
perspective of their million dollar match campaign ended.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
I think over the just yesterday for a.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Lot of good things about how that went, which is
hopefully going to be advantageous for Minnesota here in the
next month as they try to sar it through different things.
But it's different teams that we're talking about, there's still
going to be those same teams at the top of
the Alabama's, the Ohio States.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
But look at that playoff.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Picture right now, or even the teams trying to get
into that playoff picture. That is the type of thing
where you get to engage more fan bases and that's
the exciting part.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
About well and you look at Florida State. We all,
many of us picked them to be in the playoff.
What a disaster that season has been.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Just fired both of their coordinators and the receiver coach.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I think Utah was a popular pick for us to
be in the playoffs. They've lost five in a row.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Now, which did you see that uh weekend where the
athletic director comes out guards you. I cannot imagine going
down to a PG press conference afterwards and there's Mark Coyle.
He's always in the room, but he gets up in
front of the mic and just lights up into the
ref saying they stole it from us. I believe he
got fined forty thousand dollars for that.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yep. And by the way, it was a holding call
that he was mad about. Yeah defensive yeah, okay, yeah,
I can't imagine Mark Coyle doing that. I'm not gonna lie.
I can't imagine Coyle saying, by the way before roll
the boat, Scottie Mago Gophers, I Mark Coyle have some
firebomb things to say here, I can't now. I know

(41:35):
he was quick to call the big ten after Michigan
after the on side kick thing, like he he jumped
right in on that and that.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Got changed but instantaneously afterwards, which is very interesting. So anyway, yeah,
it's again we've been all asking for parody, and now
that we're almost to the middle part of November, I
think there's a lot of teams and a lot of
different fan bases that might have rejuvenated interest for the
first time in a long time. And I think Indiana

(42:01):
is the prime example of that where they get tested
once again against Michigan, where I thought that Michigan defensive
line kind of showed that they're still really good. Now
they ultimately were able to pull it off. But I'm
even looking ahead to two weeks from now when Indiana
and Ohio State play. I mean, Ohio State is about
as crazy of a runout at the end now with

(42:23):
Indiana the week before they play Michigan, now I understand
Michigan is not what they were. Did even look at
where Michigan goes from chip winning the national championship to now, yeah,
we're just fighting to become bole eligible.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yet well so much of like you look at Florida
State and them comes down to the quarterback and that
that Indiana Ohio State's at Ohio State, I believe correct? Yeah, yes,
And what was do you guys remember the quote from
Signetti when he got when he took over Indiana.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Which was the one that we're going to be in
the Big Ten Championship game or google me I win?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, not to Google. Yeah, that's the versse one. We're
going to be in the Big Ten Championship And we
all kind of laughed, is like, well they very much
they very well might be you know what I mean?
Just what a I mean, guys, a National Coach of
the Year obviously, Yeah, they're ran down shift.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Did you mess with my camera? Did you move your
laptop all the way so that nobody can see me?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Now?

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah, I'm enjoying looking at the dark screen.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
And I don't know what I thought you left us. Yeah, no,
I'm glad you're walking around. I'm glad you can hear me,
because my computer just melted down out of nowhere. I
don't know what happened. It's a Randy Burn, it's an
espionage again, it's a Randy Burn type deal. So unfortunately
nobody can see me. But I'm just glad that you
can hear me. I'm glad that there's no echo and

(43:37):
that you can hear me. And now I'm just gonna
make faces at you guys for the last ten minutes
or so.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah. I uh well, if you know, you need to
get my technological skills and this would happen.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Clearly many people.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Give me come over there and help you fix that.
Uh I get I'll get it straightened out. So no,
I just I mean, I think it's been a fun year.
I mean it's been and I really love you. I
can't imagine what these last two three weeks in terms
of because now you're getting to now you're getting to

(44:12):
the true elimination games for playoffs, right, I mean, now
you're gonna see some teams get eliminated that have one
or two losses and you're like, Okay, this is gonna
knock him out. So this is that's going to add
to it, and the playoffs are going to be so
much fun having those on campus. Uh, you know those
first ones, it's gonna be cool.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Well, I even think about some of the random Big
Ten teams, and when we spent time talking about teams
five through sixteen, and you've got teams like Wisconsin sitting
there five and four, Well, guess what they get to
host the number one team in the country this weekend
when Oregon comes home town. Then it's going to be
essentially an elimination game between them in Nebraska for who's able.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
To get to a bowl game.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
And jeez, Wisconsin's got to travel out there for that
because like and then Minnesota gets to travel there on
Black Friday. I almost think is much as it is
trying to see how the playoff teams try to separate
themselves and get their spot in the twelve, it's also
going to be watching these teams, say eight through sixteen,
who are at four or five wins right now. A

(45:12):
lot of these teams play each other in the next
couple of weeks. Yeah, and I think you're going to
see as much desperation from the players and from the
coaching staff saying we got to get to boiligibility. And
that's where I also will say, and I'm sure we'll
spend time talking about it these next few weeks. If
you have eight different teams between six and six and
seven and five in the Big Ten, I don't know

(45:34):
how some of these Bowl representatives are going to be
able to choose between these teams, because well, there's a
lot of the same depending upon how you look at it.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, and you could you know, you might say, well,
had to head but this team loss of that team,
you know, that type of thing. It's going to come
down to, as it always does, how they feel about
fan interest in that season, in that team, and will
the travel because their whole thing is that we got
to sell tickets, right they.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Got to the whole would be Minnesota perspective. Minnesota has
traveled I think incredibly well to the destination games. Yep,
like not North Carolina, well, North Carolina last year, but
the Rose Bowl, fifteen thousand people go out there, bolder,
plenty of folks went to Michigan as well. I mean,
they've traveled really well in the last couple of years.
And so hopefully that reputation that Guardsy's favorite Nashville buwll

(46:21):
rep is able to come to terms with that and
say Minnesota hasn't been to Nashville or I'm personally of
the realistic options because I think you have to win
another game before I start to talk about Florida again.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
How much would we all love to see PJ.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Fleck get an entire Gatorade cooler of Mayo dumped on him,
cause you know, he would absolutely hate every part of it,
as I'm sure many head coaches would.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yes, but I would love to go see that in Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
He's a man that carries around hand sanitizer at all
times and has hand sanitizer people, you know, just in
case he needs it. Yeah, it's yeah, Well and you
mentioned Burnsy or chip, you mentioned it, you know. Mark
Coyle told me on Saturday because I asked him. Now
that your Bowl eligible, remind us how it works. They
basically have weekly Big Ten Bowl calls. Because it's not

(47:11):
the same as it used to be when you were
on the beat, where you kind of went by records
and teams could jump teams and all of that. Now
it's basically tears and you factor into a tier and
then they essentially place you. The conference has a lot
to say with it. The bulls obviously have a lot
to say with it. And Coyle told me that last
week they sent out their first big you know, basically
package to all the bulls and go what Burnsy said,

(47:33):
Here's who came to UCLA, Here's who came to Boulder.
Here's who's been to Phoenix in New York the last
couple of years, right, because they actually traveled pretty well there.
And bulls have changed a little bit that they don't
ask you to sell, you know, twenty thousand tickets like
they used to. The number is usually more like five
or ten now in terms of the allotment that you're
responsible for, because and you can even see with the
dates that have been messed around with, the Bulls exist

(47:56):
right now to fill a four hour time block on
this number seventeen January third, which I think is when
the Mail Bowl is. They exist for TV more than anything.
So the attendance number isn't quite as big. It's still important.
You've still got to sell some tickets. But the fact
that they have I think a much better story to
tell from the Citrus Bowl on should only help them,

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and I think has only helped them in the last
few years.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, I mean it, obviously you're gonna try to sell tickets.
But they look at you know, matchups. If I was
a Bowl rep, I'd look at, you know, style of offense,
do you score a lot? You're you're wanting people to
stick to your game. You want people to turn on
and say, hey, this is a shootout. They get you know,
they're putting up if you have storylines to tell, So
all those things I think factor in. But you're right,
it's gonna be all these teams are gonna be so

(48:43):
bunched together that there's really not a ton of difference
between you know, you're gonna have a You're gonna have
a lot of seven and five and six and six
teams really yep, realistically, and so how do you you know,
how do you differentiate yourself within that? Well, showing that
your fans have traveled pretty well the last couple of

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years to regular season games would go a long way.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
And don't forget that they have they have a lot
of rules in place that have I'm assuming only gotten
more complicated. You know, every where you can't go back
to a place two.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Years in a row.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I cannot go to the Citrus Bowl, which if Minnesota
would have won this weekend, they would have had a
one game start on Illinois, who's probably the other top
team there right And I would have loved to see
Drake Lindsay versus Bama or Texas A and M or
whatever I would end up being. Now they can still
get to Nashville, which hopefully we can get Anthony Schoggins
out to Nashville of all places for the Music City Bowl.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Okay, what day is that on?

Speaker 2 (49:41):
That's December thirtieth.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
I think not going to happen.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Gosh, one of these.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I'm traveling back from a family vacation on the thirtieth.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Must be nice.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
To be able to take family vacations dre in the
middle of football season, must be nice. I would love
to go back to the Guaranteed Rape Bowl if I
have to go watch another game in a baseball stadium. Uh,
you put me in them bungalows again out there.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
And you were a big J. W. Marriott fan. When
you said watch, I thought it was watch the extracurricular
activities you saw in your walk home from dinner that
one night with a with a couple that was uh,
feeling the love and Camelback Mountains.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
With the whole world to see.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I love that guards he's just dropping one behind the
black box.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Trying to find him there and.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Lean back in his chair, just I'm like the Wizard
of Oz and like the Wizard of Oz and what's
what's what makes me mad? Though you can't see my face,
because that's somebody that watches the YouTube channel knows I've
always got a mite grim like bleep eating grin when
I fire off these one liners. But yeah, to catch
people up burnsy. Was that after we had dinner with
Randy or was that? I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
One of the nights we were we were coming back
from the hospitality suite I always you me, probably Randy,
Randy that was it?

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Room was there too? No, And I'm walking back from there.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
It's across like the campus of at the JW where
they put us at a very reasonable rate up and.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
It was unbelievable. It was like an eighty percent discount.
That's my biggest life regret that I didn't stay there
the whole time.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah, it was one of the nicest places I think
I've ever stayed.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Correct walking back one room Casitas Chipper. They're basically the
room there. Yeah, you've been there, so yes, you let
people know. There's no like. It's not like you're on
floor nine like everybody's on floor one. And unfortunately for Bertsy,
one of.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
The I'll ever recover from that where I'm just walking back.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I've just had your own business.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah, I'm literally walking on the path back to mine,
and I'm trying to figure out again I'm a little
disoriented because I've had a couple and I looked at
my right and they're expressing their love for one another
with the blinds wide open, thinking to myself, you know what,
I guess when the moods, the mood price. But goodness, gracious,
I remember texting because Grim had to been there, because

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Grim was like, well where is it?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Where is it?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
No? No, no, no, no, no, no, Grim, No, Grim
was not there.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Grim.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Well, you just assume we all hang out together all
the time. You think I'm hanging out with you in Tampa.
You think Grim is you know, peeping Tom with you
in in Arizona. St moral of the story is burnsy,
you need to drink less on these bull tips. That's
the moral of the story.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
I'm not a huge drinker like I will when we
go out and you know, they will let off some steam.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
But if you're hanging out with me, that's going to
be a problem. If you're not you, and if you're
not a huge drinker, hanging out with me might get
you in trouble on the road, And clearly it has
because you have you would be a terrible witness on
any type of trial. You have no idea who's anywhere
at any given point. Yeah, I was not with you
in Tampa, and Grim was not, you know, on your

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shoulders looking in.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I will not let you.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I'm going to let you the same Grim like that.
There's no way he would have been.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
I'm wondering if this is a bit.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
If the podcast, So I don't know what happen to
go back there. Yeah, it's a good Bowl game. Actually,
I would recommend it, and it's a great one to cover,
as we just outlined, it's a great one to cover.
All Right, Well, I don't know where I went. I
did I was here on this podcast. I don't know
what's going on with Yeah, this is it's week ten something.

(53:31):
We're trying our best art or is going to be
in the water. One of these weeks. We'll have a
podcast that works. Well, I am leaning back in my
chair right now just watching YouTube, and I would.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Not be a terrible witness. I will die on that hill.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
You got me, You got me, all types of upset
right now.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah, let's yeah, let's We're going to take attendance whenever,
if we're in Charlotte or Nashville. We're going to take
a group picture that you can just keep so that
we all know when you try to tell the story
in ten years on parent, who was there and who wasn't.
It was just you that got to witness that by yourself.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Bernsy, Yeah, that was just where I wish I trust me,
I wish I could unsee that.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
All right, Well, enjoy the bye week, everybody. We'll be back.
We'll probably do a little bit of around the Big Ten,
maybe some college football playoff stuff next week if anything
else pops up. Obviously a big Penn State preview. Remember,
make your reservations at Jack'scafe Jaxcafe dot com. Just one
home game left for Gopher football. It is against Penn State.
Don't think we know a kicktime on That could come
out today, More than likely it will come out on
Saturday night. They'll do a six game window, but make

(54:28):
sure you follow us on social media at parents Spare Pod.
Please subscribe to the YouTube channel. Hopefully I'll make a
reappearance on it next week and tell a Gopher fan
friend in your life about the parent Spare Podcast. Boys,
have a great week. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yep.