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March 5, 2025 73 mins

🎭 Paranormal Lens Podcast - Season 2, Episode 32: The Hauntings of New Orleans 🎭

Laissez les bons temps rouler! As Fat Tuesday arrives, we’re diving into the haunted heart of New Orleans—a city steeped in history, mystery, and the paranormal.

In this episode of Paranormal Lens, host Jamie Widener explores why New Orleans is often called America’s most haunted city. From the eerie legends of the French Quarter to the restless spirits of St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, Jamie will uncover the ghosts, voodoo lore, and supernatural energy that make the Big Easy unlike anywhere else.

Co-host Chad Thomas joins the discussion, adding his own take on the haunted hotels, spectral sightings, and infamous figures that continue to haunt the streets of New Orleans.


Get ready for a paranormal Mardi Gras celebration filled with ghosts, ghouls, and the magic of New Orleans! ⚜️👻🔥

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(00:33):
The. Good evening and welcome to this
week's episode of Paranormal Lens presented by Jot Nick's
Paranormal. I am Jamie White, and I'll be
your host tonight along with Chad Thomas.
That guy or that guy? He's on one of these sides.

(00:56):
Chad, how are you, Sir? I'm good.
How are you, Jamie? Just I'm exhausted.
I'll tell you why in a second. It is for the day long day, but
a good day for that it's. News Day.
It is Fat Tuesday. Yeah.
That that happens. It's happening still in the
world. Took a little bit of advantage

(01:16):
of it this morning. Had had some carrot cake for
breakfast because why not? You know, I'm an adult.
I can do what I want. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, and I, I also woke up
in western Ohio this morning too.
So, yeah, Sprint home to get here on time was a good thing.
We had a we had a college visit yesterday for the oldest, you

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know, in northern Columbus region.
Not, not Ohio State. Don't state friends.
Don't get on me. It's not that.
But something is about 3 miles away or so from their campus.
But so far so good. Great trip.
Good. Now Sunday, came back today.
Visited yesterday. So a little tired, Sir.

(02:00):
Yeah, Yeah. But.
Probably not as tired as that student because they had three,
three interviews in four days so.
That that was true. Friday with a campus visit,
Saturday with a an interview foranother college and university
and and then a drive and then and then another and then a
drive home. So I mean, yeah, yeah.
So it's been a whirlwind. But you know, hey, it's a

(02:22):
season, right? Exactly.
And they're all out of the way. So we're we're all happy about
that. Now the hard part, right?
The decision. Exactly.
We'll go there and it's time. So I I got my boss.
Not today. Oh good, So.
It is. It is that day, so it.
Is my mom would have been proud it was it was a true Fosnot.
No sugar, no cinnamon, just justthe Fosnot.

(02:46):
Perfect, That's the best ones. Honestly, you know, I I've I've
had many of in many ways, you know, some are some are even
cream filled, you know, but the and the glazed, of course is is
fairly traditional around here, but you know, just a straight,
straight doughnut, no more, no more, no less.
You have no powder or no anything.
I agree with you. It was perfect so well, good,

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congratulations. Happy Fat Tuesday.
Yeah. So which, you know, that's that
is exactly why I chose to talk about New Orleans tonight today
with our episode. So I said we should I just get
to it? Yeah, why not?
Honestly, I've got a lot to talkabout.
So it kept getting bigger and bigger as I research more and

(03:29):
more. So but I want to before we get
too far there, I want to talk about what Fat Tuesday is about
South. First of all, the Today is Mardi
Gras as well. So Mardi Gras is a Christian
holiday and a popular cultural phenomenon that dates back
thousands of years to the pagansbring infertility rights.
Also known as Carnival or Carnival, it is celebrated in

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many countries around the world,mainly those with large Roman
Catholic populations on the day before the religious season of
Lent begins. So come midnight my time, you
know, if you were practicing youwould be giving up something or
many things for that matter all the way through the plant season
until we come to Easter. So that's the point of getting

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all of the the stuff out. You know, that would be
temptation the rest of the week.So Brazil, Venice and New
Orleans play host some of the holidays most famous public
festivities drawing thousands oftourists and revellers every
year. Mardy.
Mardy is the French word for Tuesday and grass means fat.
So in French, the days before Ash Wednesdays become known as

(04:36):
Mardi Gras or Fat Tuesday. OK all.
Right. Traditionally it is leading up
to lint Mary makers would binge on all the rich fatty foods,
meat, eggs, bread, lard and cheese that remained in their
homes in anticipation of severalweeks of eating only fish and
different kinds of fasting. So you know, lard, lard is not

(04:56):
what it used to be. I guess I don't know about your
household back in the day, but my my grand was raised by my
grandparents and my grandmother had a coffee can under the sink
where every time we have bacon or anything else with grease
that whatever was off left in the pan would go into that can.
What if I and you know, had lid on it luckily I guess and it sit
there until it was needed for something else and there it goes

(05:20):
back in the pan again. So I'm pretty sure that's not
healthy or safe. But you know, I'm still here, so
I guess. It it was, it was a big thing
like that was like you could buyactually, you can still buy them
bacon thing like things to put bacon grease in, to put in the
refrigerator. So it's not, it's, it's not that

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you keep them unrefrigerated under the sink like that.
But but yeah, you, there's, it'sa, there's a ceramic container
that you put the baking grease in and solidifies in the
refrigerator. And I mean, Jamie, like how, how
are you supposed to make some things without bacon grease
like. Well, you Lord, you know, hey,
welcome to Southern cooking. First of all, lard is in
everything and have a southern grandmother.

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So, you know, it made sense, butyou know it today it's just, you
know, with with more, I guess, health consciousness.
It just seems like a thing that's kind of passed, but
apparently not. So.
OK, cool. So I know what I know what
you're getting for Christmas now.
So a quick fun fact too. In 17 O3 Mobile AL held the

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first Mardi Gras festivities here in North America and has
grown and expanded obviously ever since.
So, but a, a purpose to say thatis that, you know, the Mobile AL
is very much like New Orleans, aGulf state city.
And you know, some of this is culture that has come through
from the French who travelled over and came through the Gulf

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States, as well as the CaribbeanIslanders coming up from there
as well and and kind of minglinginto North America from those
areas so. Be cool, Jim, right before you,
before we go on, because Lord makes everything better, so.
Bert And that's everything with all caps as well.
I agree with that Bert. I really do.
I know. However, you know, like I, I

(07:10):
just as I'm aging, I guess I have some kind of health
consciousness about me that justsays, well, I shouldn't, but Oh
well, yeah, I will. And and Todd and Carmilla are
with us tonight too. So we want to say hi to both of.
Them Good evening guys. And everybody else out there
watching, of course. All right, so enough about Mardi
Gras and Fat Tuesday. So let's talk about New Orleans

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or NOLA as it's also known, or if you're for a local Nylands
because you know. So the history first, you know,
we always got to do the back story.
To understand why New Orleans ishaunted, it's important to
understand the history of the land.
The area that became New Orleansformed around 2200 BC from the
product of deposits from the Mississippi River.

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So a lot of silt and other left behind stuff.
Discoveries by archaeologists surveying the area near bio
Saint John have found pottery shards, animal bones and
fragments of clay, tobacco pipesfrom the woodland and
Mississippi and tribes from around 300 to 400 AD showing
this delta has been the home of Native Americans at least 1300

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years before John Baptiste Lemoyne Seor de Bienville.
That's a long title. Wow.
Claimed the land for France in 1718.
In 1762 and 1760, France signed.France signed treaties ceding
Louisiana to Spain, and for 40 years New Orleans was a Spanish

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city, trading heavily with Cuba and Mexico and adopting the
Spanish racial racial rules thatallowed for a class of free
people of color. The city was ravaged by fires in
1788 and 1794 and rebuilt in brick with buildings in in a
cathedral that still stands today.
So much of the old city is now gone, unfortunately.

(08:55):
I will get to the fire in a little bit and the and the the
catastrophe that it really was, but most of the city was
leveled. Right.
Can you back and say that name five times fast for for Todd and
Carmela? I will not all right, so no,
because I can barely say it one time.
Slow John Baptiste Lemon seor seor that's S i.e.

(09:17):
UR. My French is rusty, so it might
be otherwise de Bienville. So, but John Baptiste Limon is
his name. He is the Seor de Bienville with
his title. So basically he's the governor
of the area of the territory. So something we all should know,
right? Because we all had history
classes Once Upon a time. But in 18 O3, Louisiana reverted

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to the French, who then sold it to the United States 20 days
later in something called the Louisiana Purchase.
Maybe you've heard of that before.
All. Right.
The final, the final battle of the War of 1812 was fought in
defense of New Orleans. Then Colonel Andrew Jackson LED
a coalition of pirates, formerlyenslaved American and African

(09:58):
American, I'm sorry, and Tennessee volunteers to defeat a
British force outside the city. What I love about that is
pirates, Ted Pirates. Pirates.
Not Pirates of the Caribbean perSE, but still pirates.
During the first half of the 19th century, New Orleans became
the United States wealthiest and3rd largest city.

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Its port shipped the produce of much of the nation's interior to
the Caribbean, South America, and Europe.
Thousands of enslaved people were sold in its markets, but
its free black community thriveduntil 1830.
The majority of its residents still spoke French.
At the start of the Civil War, New Orleans was largest city in
the Confederacy, but it was onlya year until United Union

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troops, having captured its downriver defenses, took the
city unopposed. During the Reconstruction Era,
race became a potent political force as emancipated enslaved
people and free people of color were brought into the political
process and with the 1870s rise of the White League and the Ku
Klux Fan Klan, sorry, forced back out of it.

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Although the rise of railroads made shipping on the Mississippi
less essential as that it had been, New Orleans remained a
powerful and influential port. By 1900, the city's streetcars
were electrified and New OrleansJazz was born.
In its clubs and dance halls. The city grew.
New pump technology drove the ambitious draining of the low
lying swampland loaded located between the city's Riverside

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Crescent and Lake Pontchartrain.New levees and drain drainage
canals meant that many residentscould live below sea level.
Hurricanes in 19 O 919151947 and1965 damaged the city, but never
catastrophically. After World War 2,
suburbanization and conflicts over school integration drew

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many white residents out of the city, leaving a core that was
increasingly African American and impoverished.
Despite these social changes, the city grew as a tourist
attraction, with hundreds of thousands of annual visitors
drawn to its Mardi Gras festivities and to the culture
that had inspired playwright Tennessee Williams, trumpeteer
Louis Armstrong, and chef Jean Galatare.

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On August 29th, 2005, Hurricane Katrina struck a haphazardly
evacuated New Orleans. Upon landfall, the Category 3
storms forced forced winds, toreaway roofs, and drove large
storm surge that breached 4 levees, flooding 80% of the
city. Hundreds were killed in the
flooding and thousands were trapped for days in harsh

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circumstances before state and federal rescuers could reach
them. Officially, 1392 people died in
New Orleans because of Katrina. Now, Chad, I will tell you this.
I, I was in Gulfport, Ms. 2 daysbefore Katrina.
I was there for 2-3, almost three weeks prior to it with a
project that was for work. And as I left and luckily my

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project was done, I wasn't evacuated per SE, but I was
already leaving as I watched thenews and all of this unfold two
days later, three days later, the things that I the places
that I knew were literally wipedoff the map, that was, it was
such such a thing. And you know, it's, it's not
that far behind us now 20 years,but still, you know, the
recovery in some areas is still slow and still happening.

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And some folks who left never came back.
So a lot of stuff, right? A whole lot of history, some
transitional things, issues withjust multicultural things, you
know. So it's really cool place, first
of all, and I've had the pleasure of being in to New
Orleans. I had the pleasure of being

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there on my birthday one night one year.
And I had also had the supreme pleasure of being on Bourbon
Street on my birthday. I'll try to tell you what I
remember that later. But what I didn't get to do
while I was there was exploring the haunts.
So fortunately, but let's talk about them now.
So a couple things, many things actually, but a couple things, a

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bigger things. To start with, there was a
yellow fever epidemic in New Orleans between 1817 and 19 O 5.
There were actually several. Perhaps the most gruesome
tabulos ever to unfold in New Orleans took place during yellow
fever epidemics, which peaked in1853, where there were 7849
deaths, in 1858 when there were 4845 deaths, and in 1780, I'm

(14:27):
sorry, 1778. I apologize for 4046 deaths over
41,000 would lose their lives. Yellow fever, the 19th and 20th
centuries totaled and this and if there's a good reason for
this And interestingly, the mosquito borne virus, a member
of the Flava Flavadere family and that's another one.
I'm not going to say five times fast.

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Rav is the population of immigrants new to the city.
In particular, individuals became infected when bitten by a
mosquito carrying the virus. So it was easy for multiple
members of a household who succumbed to the disease.
Headaches, muscle soreness, fever and jaundice, hence the
name yellow fever, were followedby liver and kidney failure,
hemorrhaging, seizures, coma andthen death.

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Yellow fever cases peaked duringwarmer months when mosquitoes
were most active. And for for years, families who
had the means to flee during thesummer did so during the worst
epidemics. One out of every 10 people who
stayed behind would die. In 1853, more than 1000 people
died a week. Obviously, civil services were

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not equipped to deal with these mass desks of that magnitude,
but what they what they did whatthey could.
Each day, corpse wagons circled the neighborhoods, drivers
calling out bring out your dead.Mass graves lined the city's
perimeter. Fortunately, the 20th century
scientists figured out that if they control mosquito
populations by limiting their breeding grounds, they can

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control the spread of the disease.
New Orleans joined forces to close their cistern, drain
stagnant pools, and create underground sewage systems.
After nineteen O 5, yellow fevernever again ravaged the Crescent
City, but it still exists in other underdeveloped parts of
the world. So a big deal. 41,000 people.

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Yeah. Holy cow.
And how many years since that was?
It was it was mostly during the 1800s, So in a in a window
between 1817 and through 19 O five once once some true
renovations and and the corporation of of better hygiene
tactics like closing the cisternand then, you know, getting just
drainage and getting rid of stale water.

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The setting water really helped remove the, you know,
populations of course, too, likeawareness, public awareness too,
like you know what to do. So let's talk about some places.
The 1st is the law, the Laurie mansion.
The Laurie house is well known both within and beyond New
Orleans city limits. Kathy Bates persuade Delphine

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Laurie in an episode of AmericanHorror Story.
And the haunted house attractions frequently includes
homages to the Grizzlies. The grizzly tale.
The Laurie enslaved African American people, and she was a
notoriously cruel mistress. After a 12 year old girl fled
the Laurie's bullwhip in terror,falling off the roof and dying

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from her injuries, the authorities were brought in to
investigate. Because cruel treatment to
slaves was prohibited by law, the Laurie's slaves were taken
away from the house and sold at auction.
Unfortunately, one of the Laurie's friends bought them and
gave them back to her. Amazing.

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Whether whether Laurie's famous temper temper LED her to act out
in vengeance toward the slaves or whether she was simply
insane, no one knows, but the worst was yet to come.
Visitors to the Laurie house became fewer and fewer as rumors
of her cruelty spread and damaged her reputation.
In 1834 a cook intentionally setfire on the House, hoping that

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it would bring civic intervention at best, or the the
relief of death at worst. Behind a locked door on the 3rd
floor, firemen discovered a scene described in the New
Orleans B on April 11th of 1834.This is direct from the news. 7
slaves, more or less horribly mutilated, were seen suspended
by the neck, with their limbs apparently stretched and torn

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from 1 extremity to the other. These slaves have been confined
by the woman La Lorry for several months.
In the situation from which theyhad thus provincially been
rescued, they had been merely kept in existence to prolong
their suffering. End Quote.
Subsequent retellings of the story include even more perverse
and graphic forms of torture, but the Bee account is the most

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reliable version. The lorry managed to escape and
an Agri mob destroyed her home'sinterior, smashing furniture and
ripping out doors and railings before order was restored.
The gutted house set for severalyears and eventually returned to
the market. It was purchased by actor
Nicolas Cage in 2007 and sold again in the in 2008.

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Word on the street is he never dared spend the night there.
OK. So next is called a midnight
try. I have a quick question was was
and maybe you'll hit this was one of the Haunted Mansion
movies about that house or not? It's not that house per SE, but

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you know, it's an incorporation of of a few things.
Because I feel like that story was part of.
Yeah, the, well, the Walt Disneyland house is a New
Orleans mansion plantation. So yes, yes and no to that
degree. It's not exact, though.
It's not a not a true carry. Probably because it's too
gruesome for that matter. OK, sorry to interrupt.

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That was great and I see that Todd and Carmela have New
Orleans on their list of visits in the future.
Let me know. Perhaps road trip, call it now
or air trip, then a road trip. And and then we'll have to eat
lard while we're on the trip. It's all about the lard, yeah.
So. This is a bit of a story, but
another another point. I moved on an insufferable hot

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August day to one of the oldest houses on Esplanade Ave. built
in 1831. I rented the large upstairs
apartment, which was flanked by two smaller rear units.
On my second day, a back tenant was moving out.
We can't handle the ghosts, she said.
It's horrible. I never caught her name as she
took off with the last box. I chalked it up to strange

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neighbors. That is, until things began
happening in my own place. In the middle of the night, a
golf ball rolled down the hallway.
Well, we don't golf, so that wasunusual.
The chandelier. The chandelier bulbs began
dramatically sparking, going dead.
One particular battery operated cat toy ended up activated,
rolling around the living room despite being stored in a closed

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box in the guest room closet. That sound familiar or
something? We might have.
Halloween 2019 arrived and my friend RJ flew in from New York.
We decorated black lacquer skulls, purple fairy lights,
plastic ghouls and faux spider webs from our hangovers.
The following morning we marked We marked the first big party a

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success through all the decorations in an organized,
unorganized pile on the table and source last minute and Andy
Defranco tickets because why not, right?
We returned just after midnight.I collided with RJ's back as he
stopped dead. Every Halloween decoration was
placed carefully and deliberately on the table.
A shrine made of Party City kitsch was encased in plugged in

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fairy lights. 4 big skulls facedus, grinning.
The effect was awful. I considered and loudly
discussed moving out that very night.
Instead, we plugged in. We unplugged the shrine, threw
everything in storage boxes, andtried to sleep.
Three years on, with the help ofthe Historic New Orleans
Collection, I've discovered our ghost is Jules Hughes de La

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Vernay. Born in 1818, he lived in the
house and raised his children there.
In a strange twist of fate, or perhaps not, I became friends
with his descendants who reside in the Garden District.
He loved his house, they told meone night, drinking wine in the
living room, which was once his bedroom.
Now I regularly leave a shot of his preferred rum on the Mantel,

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and he dutifully continues to toss golf balls down our hallway
at 3:00 AM. It's from Jenny Adams, gun and
Garden contributor Another story.
This one is A Grandmother Returns.
I remember the story vividly. I was in the 7th grade and the
house was on card on Nellet St. It was built in the 1870s and my

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mother's mother and family livedthere before us.
I had a friend over to spend thenight and it was probably around
10:00 PM. We were up giggling, doing what
girls do when we heard heels coming down the hallway.
It was at a Setter Hall cottage.The space was backlit.
I could see a woman. It was my grandmother, Nellie.
We waited, pretending we were asleep because that's what kids

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do when they're up goofing off, right?
The footsteps stopped and my grandmother disappeared.
Alarmed and confused, I yelled out, Mom, is Nellie here?
It wouldn't have been weird to see my grandmother who lived
over on Jefferson Ave. My mom yelled back, No, go to
sleep. My friend was really upset, but
we finally fell asleep. I learned the next morning that

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my mom was about 17. My grandmother Cornelli brought
her mother, Cornella and Mcdevitt home to this
Cardinalette Street house because her health was failing.
She was born in 1870 and died about 181948.
She lived her last year in that bedroom.
We were sleeping in. Cornellia looked like my

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grandmother but with hair that was pulled back in a bun.
I saw her, the heels, the dress,the whole thing.
This is from Andrea St. Paul Bland.
That's what I love a lot. It's called Trapped in the
Chimney. The house was built in 1836 in
the Margini, and I loved it the minute I walked in.

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I put an offer the same day. Then I went home and Googled it.
It turns out it's one of the most haunted houses in America.
Is it too late to rescind your offer at that point?
I mean, all right, the Travel Channel did an episode on it.
The House was Terrible about a woman hanging her dog and then
herself. However, I'm a public health

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professor and I'm not easily spooked.
I'm more apt to look for scientific explanations.
I like this fellow. I moved in and was told that
someone who lived there before me was a spiritualist.
Apparently he did some ceremony to try and trap the ghost in the
chimney. I opened the flu and that's when
things started happening. Why would you open the flu?

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My cleaner felt a hand on her cheek.
This one window wouldn't stay closed.
I put a curtain rod there to keep it shut.
The next day, I found the curtain rod bent lying in the
yard. People who worked in the house,
they saw someone in the hallway.And the worst thing is, I
sometimes hear a dog whining andscratching.
I hear it coming from the chimney.
I have friends who won't even come to the house.

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This is by Lorelei Cropley. This one also is very good.
Yeah, right, dude. Why?
Why? Why?
Why is a dog stuck in a chimney?Because, well, that's the,
that's the beginning of the story.
It's the why people are crazy. All right.
The next one is called a servantstaircase.
In the fall of 2015, my parents began renting the studio

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apartment at the Pontebella building.
It was a fourth floor walk up attic unit.
It was amazing. You can open the windows and
hear live jazz. You felt like you were in the
midst of everything going on in Jackson Square.
When the Pontebello was first built, every unit had two
staircases, a formal staircase, and one for servants.

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At some point, they all cut the units in half.
Our unit used to be our unit would have.
Excuse me, let me start that over.
Our unit used what would have been the servant staircase for
access. I remember it was 77 steps up
with no air conditioning. Don't forget a thing like that
New Orleans. The stairs got narrow and narrow

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as you went up until it was barely one person wide.
Sometimes you'd be walking up and it was suddenly freezing.
Not cooling you down, more like shivers going up your spine
freezing. We investigated and found out
there was a young woman who was hired as a night nurse.
The baby was fussy and in the middle of the night she would
walk the stairs with it. As the legend goes, she got

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tired and tripped and fell. She saved the child's life with
her own. Residents believe she now walks
up and down the servant staircase forever.
This is from Taylor Baron. So good residual haunting there.
Absolutely all. Right next one is called Odd
Feelings. We own an 1850s townhouse right

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off Magazine St. The house is often chosen as a
set for films and producers sometimes stay while they work.
Back in the 1800's the Odd Fellows were the Super powerful
secret men's society, similar tothe Freemasons or the
Illuminati. This house was once their
satellite lodge where they performed rituals.
As a friend and I were restoringit, there was a section of

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flooring that didn't match. We popped the floor open and
there was a really old velvet line coffin shaped thing.
I thought at first that it may be someone kept guns in it.
Then I realized it was part of these weird Odd Fellows rituals.
This house was a spiritual placeof worship for a long time.
I mentioned that because there is a thing that happens here,

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people hear their names called out at night.
When it happened to me recently,I was asleep on the sofa.
I very clearly heard my name banks.
It sounded like my wife's voice and it sounded perturbed.
I opened my eyes and I didn't see her.
I called out for her in the darkness but got no response.
So I got up, walked into the bedroom and there she was, sound
asleep. It's happened to so many people

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now, including my parents. People think they've dreamed it,
but when there are just too manyof us that we've heard our names
called, there's only the only way to find out is to to check.
This was written by Banks Mcclintock.
He's an architect. OK.
So there's places like like this, you know, like stories of
these residences and there are so many of them, you know, that

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I'm going to, I'm going to kind of go through a lot of stuff
here, but more of them not necessary details stories, but
just locations and activities. So the first is Muriel's Jackson
Square. After losing the house at a
poker game, Pierre Anton Le Parde Jordan committed suicide
upstairs in 1814. His ghost doesn't appear human

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but has a glimmer of sparkly light.
There's even a seance room whereguests can visit that honors
Jordan's spirit, the Le Petite Theatre.
Here, you might bump into an actress from the 1930s named
Caroline who accidentally tumbled over the railing to her
death in the courtyard below, dressed in a white wedding gown
for the play. That night might also run into

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the captain, who watches plays from his balcony seat, hoping
for a glimpse of an actress he was sweet on.
Next is pair on Antone's ally Pierre Ontone was was a beloved
priest who worked tirelessly forthe poor.
But as it was to the alley that runs alongside Saint Louis
Cardinal Cathedral, so that you can see Pierre Ontone's ghost in

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the early morning hours, clad ina Chapuchin black and sandals is
also seen inside the cathedral walking the aisles.
The old French Opera House. This site is said to be haunted
by Marguerite, the ghost of an aging Storyville Madame.
Spurned by her young lover, she committed suicide more than 100
years ago after leaving a note that read I will return and kill

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those who have hurt me OK next the Mahogany Jazz hall.
Many of the staff who work here have had run insurance with its
resident ghosts. They have felt phantom hand
touches, heard disembodied whispers, and witness
unexplainable shadows walking throughout the club walked her

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house books another location. William Faulkner wrote his first
novel while staying in this house in the 1920s.
People swear they've seen his ghosts sitting at the writing
desk and say you can smell his pipe still.
The Ursuline convent In the 1700s, the Catholic diocese sent
young girls from the French convents to New Orleans to fight

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husbands. They carried their belongings in
coffin shaped chests and became known as the Casket Girls.
Some say the caskets really heldvampires from the old.
Country, that's how you repopulate, right?
You send them over doing. The Saint Louis Cathedral
Cathedral Saint Louis Cathedral is believed to be haunted by

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Pear Dagobert pastor the Saint Louis Cathedral in the mid
1700s. After worship, people have seen
Dagobert's spirit walking with his head lowered throughout the
aisles. The Old Absinthe House This 200
year old bar is haunted by famous customers who used to
imbibe here. You might pull up a stool next
to General Andrew Jackson, Voodoo Queen Marie Laveau, or

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the pirate John Lafitte himself.Doors open and close on their
own while bottle of glasses and chairs have been seeming seen
moving throughout the bar. The Bourbon New Orleans The
Bourbon Orleans was home to the famous Quadroon balls.
Today a lonely ghost can be seendancing beneath a crystal
chandelier. The hotel is also home to a

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ghost nun who slapped a man working on a stairwell for
swearing. Anton's restaurant is said that
Anton Alciatar was was the founder of a famous family owned
restaurant returns to check up on his ancestors.
Other spirits in the 19th century clothing appear from

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mirrors in the washrooms tellingyou you're never alone.
The Herman Grima House built in 1831 for prosperous Creoles.
This house is said to be alive with pleasant, friendly Southern
ghosts who scatter scented rose and lavender around the rooms
and light the fireplaces to makeit cozy.

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Like kind of people right there.All right.
The Napoleon House this now eatery and bar has had a few
different roles since during since during since it was built
around 1800, which has led to a variety of different spectres
haunting the sites because it served as a hospital during the
Civil War. The ghost of a Confederate

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soldier can be spotted walking the 2nd floor balcony.
Other common ghostly phenomenon on her from the 20th century,
the figure of a little old lady sweeping the balcony and the
mysterious reappearance of glasses on the bar.
Once everything has been cleanedand put away for the night.
The Marie Laveau House Voodoo Queen Marie Laveau lived on the

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site between 1839 and 1895. Her spirit is said to conduct
wild voodoo ceremonies there still today.
The Hotel Mon de Leon A stay in a Hotel Monteleone comes with a
dose of haunted history. Legend has it the 14th floor,
which is actually the 13th. They skipped it numerically of

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Hotel Mon de Leon is home to paranormal activity.
Guests have reported hearing thefootsteps of Maurice Burger,
young ghost child who haunts thehotel.
Apparently he has seen throughout the building the
Louisiana Supreme Court building.
You may recognize this terracotta and marble structure
from the runaway jury. For those who live in New

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Orleans, they recognize the Louisiana Supreme Court building
as one of the most haunted locations in the city.
From a ghostly lawyer who roams the halls, to employees who hear
the eerie show who hear the eerie shoe tapping even when no
one is there, the Louisiana Supreme Court building's ghost
stories are tied into the disappointment, violence, and
neglect that has inhabited the structure since its founding.

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The New Orleans Pharmacy Museum.One of the ghosts of the
Pharmacy Museum is said to be Doctor Dupas.
According to legend, Dupas imposed shocking experiments on
pregnant slaves and other peoplehave stated that he performed
voodoo rights within the property itself as well.
Today it is said that Doctor Dupas ghost haunts the Pharmacy

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museum. Sorry after it closes.
His ghost is seeing wearing a brown suit and often times a
matching brown top hat too. His ghost appears to be of a man
in his mid 60s. He is said to be short and
stocky with a mustache. His spirit is said to be
responsible for throwing books. Moving items are on the display
in the museum and triggering thealarm system even in the dead of

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night. The Andrew Jackson Hotel The
Ghosts at the The ghosts, I'm sorry, plural, at the Andrew
Jackson Hotel are some of the more interactive spectres
encounter than the city. Back during the building's
tenure as a boys British school,five students died in a fire.
But they have then spent their afterlife playing and causing a

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bit of childlike mischief, and their laughter and footsteps are
often heard throughout the hoteland courtyard.
Spirits of the boys, along with one believed to be a former
housekeeper, will move personal items and furniture around guest
rooms, the boys hiding items as a joke and the housekeeper
fluffing pillows and straightening towels.
The Sultan's palace The Garnet Le Petre House, also known as

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the Sultan's Palace, was leased by the brother of a Turkish
Sultan in the late 1790s. One stormy night, assassins
brutally murdered everyone they found in the house.
Ghostly forms have been seen there for many years since Le
Pavilion Hotel. In the mood for APB and J?
Stop by by on the La Pavlion Hotel and you won't even have to

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book a room. But PB and J is not the only
thing that La Pavlion Hotel is famous for.
This Bell of New Orleans is one of the city's most haunted
hotels. One story related to Ghost City,
which is a very much a active organization that does I don't
know why. Investigations throughout the
city occurred one night when a couple their names are Kai.

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Kim and Si decided to stay at the hotel.
Si worked offshore so ever he came back in he and Kim would
pick a different hotel to stay at.
Their night at De La Pavlion turned out to be an interesting
one to say the least. It's important to mention that
Si is about 65 Cajun and he oncecompeted in MMA, so he's not the
kind that scares easily, so theysay.

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Kim and Sighed just retired to bed when Sigh started to feel
something touching the bottom ofhis feet.
He looked up and around but didn't see anything.
Slowly, he then started to feel the sheets tugging off of him.
He began to panic when he felt apressure pushed down on his
chest as if someone were trying to hold him down.
And despite being 65, Sigh couldn't lift the force off of

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him. He could barely breathe.
He actually started to think he was having a heart attack.
Sigh claims the experience last for 5:00 to 6:00 minutes.
Wow. Now, if you remember, we we
talked about Harpers Ferry, the Hilltop house there has reports
of the same kind of activity where someone in the middle of
night, you would have that pressure pressing down.

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Men specifically would have thatpressure holding them down.
It's a interesting thing. I'm sure it's happened to others
as well. We'll we'll probably have to
look into that a little bit more.
Yeah, I'm sure I. Just want to say hi to Frankie
who just jumped in. Frankie, good evening.
So you know, New Orleans is is famous for a lot of buildings,
but one of the things that's really, really well known for
two are the cemeteries and thereare quite a few.

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So Lafayette cemetery #1 Lafayette is one of the oldest
city operated cemeteries New Orleans and can be found in the
Garden District. Famous vampire author Anne Rice
and more lies the cemetery as she made it into the final
resting place for the Mayfair witches.
But Lafayette is also one of thefew non segregated non
denominational cemeteries in NewOrleans.

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In the length of one city block there are around 1100 family
tombs and over 7000 souls that call Lafayette home.
Amongst those souls are Americans from 20 different,
excuse me, 26 different States and immigrants from over 25
different countries, creating quite an afterlife melting pot.

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The Saint Vincent de Paul Cemetery, DePaul is another
notable cemetery, sometimes referred to as Louisiana St.
Cemetery. Cemetery is believed to be
founded by a priest and was onceowned by a infamous duelist
senor, Jose Pepe Lulala. 2 of the cemetery's most famous
residents are the spiritual leader, Mother Catherine Seals

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and a Gypsy Queen named Marie. St.
Roach cemeteries #1 and #2 St. Roach has a reputation for being
one of the most unusual cemeteries in New Orleans, which
is saying quite a lot. Despite the unique title, St.
Roach is one of the least visited cemeteries in New
Orleans, which might just be thereason why the ghosts enjoy

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chilling in this historic cemetery so much.
For nearly a century, ghost stories have emerged from Saint
Roach. One of these such stories is
about the hooded ghost of the Saint Roach Cemetery.
The hooded figure can sometimes be seen walking through the
cemeteries pathways and leaving right through the walls that
surround it. Another tale is of a ghost dog
which is often seen roaming the cemetery.

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He is typically described as a naturally large black dog.
His ghostly image has been captured in pictures and on
video and visitors believe believing the dog is a stray
have followed him through the cemetery.
But just as they're about to corner him, the dog vanishes.
Chad, coincidentally, or maybe not St.
Roach, is the patron state of dogs.
Coincidence. That makes sense, yeah.

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So. A lot of stuff, right?
So to conclude it, why is New Orleans so haunted?
Couple things. First, the violent start, right?
Go back through history. In 1718, city founder John
Baptiste Lemoyne, Sierra de Bienville said it again.
So maybe three more times fast and I'll have enough.

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Sailed down the Mississippi River and settled in New
Orleans. He was accompanied by soldiers
and expeditioners from Canada and France.
But Bienville realized early on that he needed people to grow
the city's population. So he did what anyone might do.
He penned the King of France andrequested that the crown send
some folks across the Atlantic. The king acquiesced, but he but
he did so on his own terms. In 1721, he opened all of the

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prison doors of Paris and put them on a ship heading to New
Orleans. The convicts were the lowest of
society Thieves, pickpockets, rapists and murderers.
Then Bienville needed appropriate brides for all his
colonists, and the first group of prospective women recruited
hailed from Paris's House of Correction.
Yeah, they were prostitutes, allof them.

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The early colony, The early colony of New Orleans struggled
under the weight of debauchery and crime, where bursts of
violence were not uncommon. Those same convicts repeatedly
began to fill the original jail,called Old Parish Prison.
But even after they were publicly executed for their
crimes, their souls never left the prison.
Other prisoners heard disembodied screams from all
areas of the jail that no one was in.

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The sounds of iron clanking wokethem every night.
Guards began reporting that theysaw shadows of ghostly figures
roaming the cells and corridors,and some grew so frightened by
the dead convicts, which they feared more than the living
ones, that they up and quit. When the parish prison closed,
it still had 350 prisoners locked inside.
It's fair to say that the ghostsof those early colonists,

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especially those who ended up inprison before facing their
execution, have opted never to leave the city and found
themselves found themselves in centuries ago.
Second reason? The American plague.
It arrived in the form of infected mosquitoes, but
resulted in the deaths of thousands of people.
Yellow fever was the true killerof New Orleans New Orleanians.

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That's the weird word. During the 18th and 19th
centuries, after drinking the diseased water, people's
temperature spiked and their liver and their liver infested
with the fever, shut down. Skin burned is thickly yellow,
and the whites of their eyes matched the jaundice flesh to
perfection. It was only a matter of days
until the body could no longer support itself and succumb to
the disease. With no known cure, grave

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diggers could only collect the dead off the streets and haul
them to the cemeteries. Most of the bodies, at any rate.
To this day, locations in the French Quarter swear to be
haunted by the ghosts of yellow fever victims, many which were
children. The next Cities of the dead Mark
Twain once called the cemeteriesof New Orleans the cities of the

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dead, and the nickname is struckFor over a century due to a
Spanish and Roman Catholic influence, the colonists of New
Orleans did not bury body 6 feetunder the high water table was
unforgivable for one. And very thought of coffins
bobbling up from underground with remains popping out was
horrifying. And.
And actually this happened in 2011 when a man dug up his
courtyard in the French Quarter to put in a pool, only to

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unearth 15 coffins dating from the 18th century.
Yeah, secondly, custom mandated that barrows be elevated and as
above ground tomb in above ground tombs or mausoleums.
If strolling through the dead isnot enough, the fact that
generations upon generations canfit into one single crypt should
be enough to send chills runningup your spine.

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Yellow fever epidemics posed a deadly problem, however, if not
for the span of one summer, thousands of victims could be
seen waiting to be interred within the city's tomb space.
And if you thought of the dead waiting to be buried doesn't
unnerve you, the fact that voodoo Queen Marie Lavelle
spirits will haunt St. Louis Cemetery number one just
might. Her ghost is said to lurk by her

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tomb for visitors who disrespecther or her religion or beliefs.
The ghost of Maria has been known to hit scratch and push
people down to the ground. Maria Lavelle might not be the
friendliest of spirits, but she's just one of the ghost
rumored to haunt St. Louis cemetery #1 the oldest
grave site in New Orleans #4 andwe spoke about this little while

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ago. The great fires.
Good Friday of 1788, Treasurer Jose Nunez was sitting in his
family's home on rue charges, less than a block away from
Saint Louis Church, now Cathedral.
He allegedly lit 56 candles in honor of the holiday and then
sat down for dinner with his family.
Then the scent of smoke crawled through the house.

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The Candlestick caught fire uponthe curtains that night.
On March 21st, seventeen 88856 of the 1110 buildings in the
French Quarter caught fire and burned to the ground.
The Spanish governor, Esteban Miro wrote.
If the imagination could describe what our senses enabled
us to feel from sight and touch,reason itself would recoil in

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horror. It is no easy matter to say
whether the site of the entire city in flames was more horrible
to behold than the suffering in pitiful condition in which
everyone was involved. End Quote.
With nowhere to turn, locals camped out in Jackson Square
Plaza de Armas, which is just sohappens to be the place where
public executions were held every single week.

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Allegedly, those executions did not stop during the time the
homeless New Orleans stayed there, and rumor has it that the
stories of hearing disembodied voices screaming and spiding
ghostly figures in Jackson Square started then.
Today, Jackson Square remains just as paranormally active as
it were on the Great Fire of 1788.
Rabbits to city and the public executions amassed hundreds of

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New Orleans to watch each and every week.
Orbs have been caught on camera in Jackson Square and
apparitions have been visibly spotted.
So New Orleans was a port town? It's no secret that port towns
were often the most crime riddenand violent laden areas in the
state. In a state.
Portland, OR for example, is known for its Old Town and the

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Shanghai tunnels where unsuspecting folks were
kidnapped out of salons, draggedthrough the underground tunnels
to the waterfront, and then soldto sea captains which had.
This may have to be a topic for a future episode.
Oh yeah, New Orleans is no different.
Back in the 1800's, the closest St. to the waterfront was
Gallatin St. and it was known asthe most dangerous St. in the
world. Legend has it that if you could

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make it past Gallatin St. you can make it anywhere.
Ramshackle buildings hung loose on their foundations.
Gangs such as Alive Oak were so slick that their victims never
knew their throats have been slashed until they're already
dead on the ground. Prostitutes, some missing limbs
or teeth, flirt sailors off the street.
Some of the most ruthless were women themselves.

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Bridget, Fury, Marie and Mary. I'm sorry.
Jane. Bricktop Johnson.
These are the names of serial killers on Gallatin St. and
their souls allegedly have neverleft.
At the stroke of midnight, the woman's scream can be heard
still, just as the pistol shot rings out on the otherwise
empty, quiet streets. Ultimately, Gallatin St. was
razed to the ground at the end of the 19th century, but the

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import but the imprint from thattumultuous period has remained
for many tourists simply have noidea what they when.
When they visit the French market in New Orleans, they're
standing directly on where all of that death and crime once
occurred. Number six, there's a culture of
death. Day of the Dead crew debut
parade on Halloween, Crew de tatparade during Mardi Gras, Jazz

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funerals. These are just some of the ways
that New Orleans New Orleans celebrate the dead each year.
Thanks to the heavy blend of Spanish, French and African
influence, death is not just an occurrence in New Orleans, it's
also A cause for celebration. In a strange way, New Orleans
are fascinated with the culture of death as a passage from here
and now to the other side. And as a weird.

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As weird as it may seem, locals in the city, implants of
implants, have found their way to celebrate those who have
passed, whether it's due to culture or just weird
fascination. New Orleans encourage the spirit
of the dead to come out and play, making this party city and
even even playing field for boththe living and the ghost to
still make the Crescent City their home.
And who make New Orleans the most haunted city in America?

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So I'd love to discuss this, butlet me cite some sources.
First of all, ghostcitytours.com, A great
website with a lot of lot of captured information.
Frenchquarter.com, gardenandgun.com, neworleans.com
and history.com. So let's discuss, man, what a,

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you know, there is so much history there and it carries
back so far, you know, and New Orleans, surprisingly is not a
very big place. I mean, it is a big place, but
it's not, you know, it is expanded.
But, you know, in the original sense, it's a, it's a sliver of
land between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain.
You know, the port buffered North and South.

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And it just has, it's a kind of a curving Crest of land, hence
the Crescent City. It's it's high ground.
So it makes sense people settledon it.
And, you know, being it's 90 miles out of, you know, from the
Gulf of Mexico, I'm still going to call it that, by the way.
It is, you know, a key strategiclocation.

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Yeah, it is. Yeah.
And, and because it's at a curveof the river as well, It's, it's
got, it's got some strategery toit.
You know, I understand why it would have been contested
through the years, you know, andit's such a neat blend of
culture too, you know, and, and I, my experience there was a
couple days, you know, in the city itself and mostly around

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the area. I stayed in Metairie, which is a
suburb, but I've also been to Baton Rouge.
I've been up to Shreveport, a few other smaller towns
throughout the state. I've been around quite a good
bit. And the, the, the whole Gulf
culture, it's just, it's really neat, you know, and the French
Connection that it's there, the Creole connection that's there,

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the Caribbean connection that's there.
You know, and one thing we really didn't talk about in any
of that stuff was voodoo, because we're going to get an
episode on Voodoo chat episode 7.
So I encourage those who are interested in voodoo to catch up
to that. We, we, we covered a while back
now. So you know, the, the blend of
religion, the blend of various cultures, you know, the, the are

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called the, the riffraff, if youwill, of prisons being released,
you know, for settlers, you know, it's just such a
fascinating thing. It all blended together and
created this kind of dynamic place.
So fascinating. And you know, of course, with
all of that energy comes the paranormal, right?
Have you have you ever been to New Orleans?

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I have not, as of yet not. Yet right.
I love the way you said that. So I just want to highlight some
comments that came in while you were talking.
Bert said that his great, great grandfather was not a fellows
member in Cleveland. OK.
Got that connection there. And Tom Carmelo's comment here
sounds like there's a never ending list of these stories

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definitely need to make it to New Orleans sooner rather than
later. So it sounds like, you know,
there's a whole bunch of us who need to get down there.
Jamie absolutely. I think road trip is definitely
in in the in the works here. But but yeah, I I agree.
Frankie also said another place I've never been NOLA on the
bucket list. So but yeah, it just, I feel

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like it's it's one of those towns that there's just story
after story after story after story.
And you could probably go on fordays with with things that have
happened there and not cover allof them.
So. And true, you know, and that's,
that's, you know, a lot of things, there's a lot of things
going on that reported. That's the interesting thing,

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you know, like, because there are people who don't believe
what's happening. What's happening is paranormal
or not, you know, and you know, we tried, we try to debunk stuff
first right there that we should, we all should before we
claim something to be paranormalor, you know, be a ghost or
whatnot. You know, so some folks probably
have kind of just dismissed things, especially when it's

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been more or less playful. Nothing, nothing malicious
anyway, you know, things just get moved, things turn on and
off. Well, House, it's this, it's
that, you know, like. One of your one of your first
stories with the you know, they went out partying and they came
back and they had a shrine set up with the Halloween get there
like Jamie, what would you do ifyou walked in and that had

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happened like. Oh, I'd, I'd hope I went in
first because, you know, if, if it was not me, I think we would
have been moving out that night.But you know, I, I don't think I
would, I wouldn't be freaked outby it.
I really wouldn't. And, and we, we both have lived
in, you know, we grew up in homes that have activity in it
right from younger ages on. So, you know, I, you learn to

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figure it out and you learn to live with it.
It's my, it's my place with this, you know, and I think, you
know the, if I'm not mistaken, that story, they also dove into
what was, who was there before them, You know, they, they did
the homework, the research and he found, you know who it was.
And then, then one of the name thing, you know, and then it's
not, not the scary thing. It's a person, you know, and you

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find your way to make it work for everybody.
You know, and I, I grew up in, in, in a house that I absolutely
love, you know, and, and unfortunately, you know, we had,
we sold it. My grandparents passed on.
The house got sold, you know, and it's, it's still stands
today. I mean, certainly it's not
falling down or anything, but you know, I love that house.
And it's a, it's an old mansion kind of place down in the Old

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Town of Columbia, PA historic district.
So it was, you know, it was justthis place was cool.
And I can see myself if if I ever would pass and whenever I
pass that if or when, and we're all going to go someday, you
know, if there was a place that would be my place, you know, I
don't know. You get to choose that.
I hope you do. And if if so, would I go first?

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You'll find me there, Chad. So, so you know, I'll I'll text
you the address. But, you know, I don't think
there's a problem with that. You know, I have more respect
for it that way, for the person that way, because they love that
place as much as they may love it as well.
And you know, they have they have the right to be there too.
Right, Bert says. I think I would have to break

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the rule. Don't investigate your own from.
Yeah, yeah, it's true. But I think I think the rule is
don't investigate something you don't want the answer to.
That's really the truth of it. You're right.
So if you want to find the answer, then you do have to
investigate it, yeah. Or you, you you know, well, you
know, obviously we all know people, right, So we we know

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each other. So someone else to do it for you
and you step out for the eveningkind of thing.
You know, it's right. I don't think that's unusual.
I mean, that's, that was like, you know, gazillion episodes of
Ghost Hunters back in the day, you know, all the residents ones
they did, yeah. They're helping the homeowner
figure out what's going on in their house.
You know, we've done, we do private investigations for folks
when they request it. So, you know, somebody has an

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issue that's happened and they don't know what's going on.
They want to figure it out. They think it's paranormal.
So, you know, we can step in and, and you know, it's not a
big deal that way because it brings some sense of
understanding and maybe closure for that matter.
But it bring, it brings the knowledge and understanding to
that, that family or that person, whoever they are, you
know, or what really is going on.
Sometimes it's not paranormal atall.

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Sometimes we, we have a great example of folks who are having,
you know, lucid dreams and, and just some, some really bad
nighttime experiences. Their headboard was right next
to the electrical panel, which was kicking off a heck of a lot
of EMF. So, you know, the reality was
they were just getting smacked with EMF all night while they
were trying to rest. And it was, it was, you know,

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affecting them. But they didn't realize it
because if I remember correctly,it was on the other side of the
wall. So it's.
Not like there's a closet door and it was right inside the, you
know, right inside the door, butthat the panel was right at
their headboard, you know, So, you know, the, the conversation
with hey, move, move the furniture around if you can.
And they could, you know, just see if you put the bed maybe
away. And then checking in a little

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later, things were much, much better.
Other activity was still occurring, which was really the
point of us being there. But that part of their issue was
resolved. And again, not, not a paranormal
thing, a very physical thing. And not everybody's affected the
same way by by high levels of EMF as others, but they were
both sensitive to it and they were having issue.
So. And and there's that question,

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you know, sort of which came first, the the chicken or the
egg. Sometimes having that EMF
leakage coming from that panel is enough to the draw or give
something energy that's there. You never know so.
I don't argue that, you know, and that's, you know, as far as
the the draw that it has, you know that that's constant.
It's always there. You know, all the electricity is

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on, you know, to the building, it's there.
So, yeah, we, we ran into that in a place we investigated in
New York, the Wildwood Sanatorium.
There was the hallway that a lotof people said, oh, we, we, we
see things here all the time. We see here, you know, well, it
turns out there was a high EMF reading right down the middle of

(57:28):
that hallway where people cite things.
So it's like, oh, well, there's a good chance that it's a
feeding energy. So means it's basically doing
what we do when we put out Teslagenerators, right?
It's a constant Tesla generator,so.
Yeah, exactly. You know, and that that's kind

(57:48):
of like a beacon at that point too.
So you know, and, and and I don't know, it's kind of like
free Wi-Fi, right, right. Pirating your neighbors
connection you kind of get you use it until you you it gets
taken away from you. Yeah.
So Bert's still saying we need to get the bus for that.

(58:08):
We need a bus, sure. So it'd be a short bus for us,
but you know, still, well, I, you know, I, I think, I think
New Orleans is, is one of those places that, and, and I, I give
a lot of credit to the, the ghost city tours folks.
They have done a lot of work, a lot of work documented a lot of

(58:29):
it. And their website is fantastic
for those who are interested in New Orleans, are heading down
there and, and you're interestedon the paranormal, check them
out first and you can do tours with them.
You know, they, they go out and do investigations.
You know, they have walking tours of course, too, through
the hot spots and you know, kindof like what we do at the
brewery where there's a ghost tour and then there's a
paranormal investigation as another angle.

(58:50):
If you just want to walk throughit and see it all kind of thing,
you can certainly do that too. You know, the world is so, so
very unique and, and such a really interesting place.
You know that it it helps that it's in the Gulf States.
So, you know, it's the climate'sgreat all year long, although I
guess everybody had cold weatherthis year so far.
But generally speaking, you know, right now, you know, we're

(59:13):
talking with them. We are the first week of March
and you know, it's it's in the 70s down there today, you know,
gorgeous day out in Bravo on thestreets.
You know, we forget for for Mardi Gras.
But anytime of year it's really a beautiful place.
Hot in summer, but you know, hotis relative.
I was, I was going to say I, I may at my age, disagree with you
about the climate. Great all year round because I'm

(59:35):
to the point that humidity just is not my friend like so yeah.
But anyway. So fair enough.
I, I've had the, I've had the, the pleasure of being in the
Gulf states in the, well that displeasure to some degree the
Gulf states for that same careerpath I was in then.
I was always in the Gulf states in the summer months and, and I
was always in like the northern tier of the US in the winter

(59:57):
months. And I often thought, why are we
not flipping the script and justreversing this, right?
Exactly. Gosh, it was, you know, I mean,
I remember being in like Port Huron, MI, you know, in the
middle of February and it snowedevery day, like inches of snow
every day. The first thing you had to do,
we had storage pods. You know, first thing you had to
do was go shovel everything out for like half an hour.

(01:00:18):
And then you can, you'll get do your work.
And then it was snow in the afternoon and bury you again.
It was like never ending. Then you're you're in the Gulf
states in the summer and everything.
You stick to everything because it's crazy sticky, humid, humid.
But you know what? I'll take the warmth every day
versus being cold. So true.
That's the difference, I guess. But yeah, but you know, climate

(01:00:38):
food. I can tell you one thing for
sure, Chad, if you have the opportunity to have all you can
eat crawfish. Think twice, think twice.
I know how I know how many plates are too many.
It's 22 is too many. The third one is the too many I
should say, but 2 is enough. Well, and and you have the other

(01:00:59):
Cajun thing like alligator and and do you remember when there
there were the Cajun restaurant was in was it Columbia Pradomes?
Pradomes Kitchen. Kitchen, of course.
I I used to love some of the theCajun food that they had so.
Absolutely, you know, and that's, that's the thing, you
know, the, the, the, there is such a blending pot of cultures,

(01:01:21):
which brings so much in for as far as food and resources.
You know, that way you don't, you'll never, you don't have to
have the same thing twice, you know, which is really cool, you
know, because it's part of the, the, the uniqueness of New
Orleans itself and, and, and theGulf States in general.
I think it's a lot of it, You know, the things you'll find
there you won't find in, you know, anywhere else in the

(01:01:42):
country, at least not as well made as it is there.
True. Yeah.
And again, I have a Southern grandmother, so some of that
stuff gets pulled into Southern culture as well, but not not
enough of it to really appreciate as much as you will
if you're there so. Jambalaya, all those good
things. The best gumbo I've ever had.
So one thing that you, you hit on a little bit, I think, but I

(01:02:05):
always find interesting is the number of cemeteries that are
not burial grounds. They're above ground cemetery.
Oh yeah, yeah. And then again, that's because
it, it's a necessity because you're below the floodplain.
You're so it's all mausoleums and and even buildings that just
have. Crips mausoleums and Crips

(01:02:26):
essentially is, is the true, youknow, there is no internments,
you're right barrel in ground internments, you know, and and
that's not a bad thing. You know, in in the sense of it,
because, you know, it is still away we're talking about food and
and Frankie, just comment now I'm hungry and me too, by the
way. So although I did I did pick up

(01:02:47):
this delicious bag of Zapps voodoo chips today, which I'm
going to have some tonight when I'm done here.
So I'm going to crunch in your ear.
But, you know, it's, it's one ofthose things where it, it adds
to the creepiness because, you know, everybody is above ground,
right? You know, and it, it, it's not
to say it's a thing, but you know, if if something isn't

(01:03:10):
properly maintained, you know, you can have Crips open, you
know, seals go bad. Yeah, thing like that.
Obviously, you know, people can be grave robbers a lot easier
than they would to dig someone out of the ground.
And, you know, as a true traditional internment, you
know, so it wouldn't, it wouldn't be unusual back in the
day at least to see that, you know, a Crip was smashed and

(01:03:30):
and, you know, corpses pulled out to take the things that they
were buried with as, as you know, a grave robber or thief.
You know, much different today, of course, doesn't happen in the
early as much or at all. But you know, there was a time
in that era when there was a whole lot of criminality going
on. That would happen often.
Yeah, but I I think it'd be better to have that than than

(01:03:52):
you know what? Digging the swimming pool and
finding. Yeah.
Unmarked. Unmarked.
Not, not cold, not cold. This is the, IT makes me think
of what's it 811 as a, as a callnumber where you dig, you call
before you dig. I don't think anybody would
know, you know what's in the backyard.
And what a what a great time forJenny to jump in.

(01:04:13):
And, you know, we're talking about coffins floating up to the
surface. Yeah.
You know it's so. We're glad you could join us for
a little bit, Jenny So. Yeah, I had AI had a, an old
house I lived at. I had a a flat stone in the very
back corner of the yard. I was always there and I was
going to redo the garden area that it was in if it was like
around like a wall, a fence. And I was told that I wasn't

(01:04:36):
allowed to move that stone. And I'm like, you know, it's
just a stone. It's like a step over because
there was a in the, in the gate at the end or the, the fence at
the end. So it was just a step to, you
know, go cross. And it was, it was truly
believed that something was interred there.
So I wasn't ever allowed to movethat stone, you know, and it
goes back to like, you know, what happens if you do?
And the same thing like if someone were to break into your

(01:04:58):
crypt or your mausoleum, you know, and steal your goods, you
know, from your corpse, you know, wouldn't that be pause for
someone to say, hey, I'm going to come and you know.
Yeah. Slaught you, I don't know.
And the, you know, the woman whosaid, you know, I'm going to
come back and haunt those who, who wronged me, you know, so you
never know. So yeah, definitely very, very

(01:05:20):
well done, Jamie. Very interesting.
I've, you know, there's, like wesaid earlier, you could go on
and on and on and find more stories and.
Well, even if they get out of, they get out of the city and
they get into the values, you know, like there's still a lot,
a whole lot more to explore in, in the, in all of the Gulf
States for that matter. You know, once you get into the,

(01:05:41):
the outlying areas away from thecities, you know, there's tales
of cryptids. There's all kinds of stuff that
we'll have to explore another time just to get into it.
And, you know, just stuff, I mean, keeps going.
Like we've said this all the time.
There's no ends to this. You know, there's a wall to the
paranormal here and, you know, these these kind of experiences
are just part of it. So more to come.

(01:06:03):
Yeah, definitely. So.
OK. Well, I've I've nothing more to
add. Thanks.
Thanks for, you know, indulging me on this one.
Of course, again, happy Fat Tuesday.
We still have a couple hours to get out and get some boss knots
and yeah, somebody today at workwas like, you know, talking
about them and you know, not notfrom around here.

(01:06:24):
Originally was talking about thefosch knots that they they were,
they were definitely given a hard time about that so.
Oh my. Yeah.
Well, it's a Dutchy thing. I get it.
Yeah, so, but anyway, so let's talk, you know, let's talk about
what's coming up for us. Do you want to say it, Jamie?
Because I know you love this onefrom what's coming next week.

(01:06:46):
Next week we're going to jump inthe Leap Castle.
Yes, we are. So I'm going to, I'm going to
talk about Ireland's most haunted castle, supposedly,
purportedly. So we've got that to look
forward to. Then Jamie's going to cover
Tommy Knockers. I'm going to do the Dipix box.

(01:07:07):
Then on April 1st, I mean, I can't believe we're already
talking about April Fool's Day. We got paranormal hoaxes.
And then Jamie, we are traveling, we are doing a road
trip. Couple are, you know, a little
over a month now, Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum.
I'll be covering the history theweek before we go or the Tuesday

(01:07:27):
before we go. And then the 15th, also known as
tax day, we'll be covering what happened at the, the the asylum.
So that's, I'm really looking forward to that trip.
So yeah, exactly. So we've got that to look
forward to. Let's see then OOP.

(01:07:52):
Too many buttons. Too many buttons.
March 22nd is our next investigation at the brewery, so
plenty of tickets available for that one, but they usually start
going quickly a couple weeks before, so get them while you
can. We're about 3 weeks out from
that time to plan. Yep, April 26th would be our

(01:08:14):
next investigation there. Then May 17th we have a special
pair unity event with Land and Legends Paranormal.
I know I saw that she was on earlier.
Stacey Lee Smith will be joiningus with Gary Smith and they're
they're great team can't work. Wait to work with them at

(01:08:34):
boobies and see what they come up with.
It's going to be a fun event. I'm glad we're starting to do
this a couple times a year, bring another team in and work
with them. So we'll see how see what we can
come up with and then June 21st would be the one in June.
So that's, yeah, our investigations.
You can head to Boobies Brewery back, Boobies brewery.com,

(01:08:57):
bubesbrewery.com, back slash Entertainment and you can find
everything that they've got going on, plus our
investigations. So plenty to plenty to do at the
brewery. So as I said earlier, we've got
Gary and Stacy Smith from LandonLegend on the 17th of May Stacey

(01:09:20):
does a podcast as well. So check that out.
I'm drawing a blank on the name.I'm sorry, Stacey, but
definitely, you know, jump on Facebook, look for her podcast.
It's a it's a good show. Check it out.
If Stacey you're still with us, drop us a comment we'll we'll
give you full credit for it and direct focus the right way.
Yeah. Then, as we've been talking

(01:09:42):
about the last couple of months,you can do private
investigations at the brewery. It's a great way you, you have
the whole place to yourself. Once the restaurant closes, you,
you get the hotel side, you get a lot of, a lot of access,
especially if you stay in the hotel upstairs.

(01:10:03):
You can investigate those rooms.You get the, the, the, there's
just, there's so much you can do.
It's a great, great experience. If you want to book that
experience, reach out to MelissaKeller.
The e-mail we're using currently, this is going to
change soon, but it's m.keller0606@gmail.com.

(01:10:23):
I reach out and she can get you all the information on the
investigations, staying at the hotel or staying across the
street at the Malt Baron Mansion, which is a Airbnb, so
plenty of opportunities there. Yep.
And Chad, what happens when you with staying over?
Mountjoy's always better when you sleep over, more fun when

(01:10:44):
you sleep over. It's both.
It's both and it's better and it's more fun.
Yeah, that's for sure. So and then our social media,
you found us tonight on Facebook, the Jotnick's
paranormal Facebook page or the Jotnick's paranormal YouTube
page. But check out our TikTok
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(01:11:06):
Check that out. Just the easiest way to find
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If you want to reach out to us at
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Tell us how we're doing. Give us show ideas, tell us what

(01:11:26):
we need to work on. Any of that we we don't mind.
We love hearing information. We love hearing feedback.
And if you weren't aware, everything that we've done for
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Again, the easiest way to do that is jump on Spotify and
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(01:11:48):
We're also an Apple podcast, I heart podcasts, Audible, all the
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links in one place. Yep.
So stop shopping. Yep.
So Jamie, any last minute thoughts?

(01:12:10):
I don't, I'm I'm going to go find me some vignettes and some
voodoo chips and get all this stuff out of my house before Fat
Tuesday is over and then we'll go from there.
You go go dump the lard so you can get rid, get it out of the
house and start fresh after the lent.
There is no lard in my house. No, no.

(01:12:34):
So all right that that did not carry forward for my grandmother
so. All right, OK, well, we want to
thank everybody who stuck with us and everybody who's checking
us out on all the podcasts in inin the future.
So thank you Jamie. We'll.
Look forward to see everybody next week for Leap Castle.

(01:12:56):
We're going to jump right into that.
Here it is. All right.
Good night everybody. Take care.
Good night.
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