January 11, 2020 • 29 mins
If there is anything we love more than visiting National Parks, it's definitely discovering all of the amazing food and drinks this country has to offer while we're out on the road. And with that in mind, we're starting up another miniseries of bonus episodes called Traveling Eats. And for this first installment, we're heading to the happiest place on Earth, Disney World!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, I'm Matt and I'm Brad. This is park Landia
production of I Heart Radio. We sold our loft in Chicago,
moved into an RV, and now we're talking the country
full time with our dog Finn, exploring America's national parks.
And today we're really excited to bring to you our
first episode of Traveling Eats with Matt. Yes, I'm so excited.
So this is a little kind of mini bonus episode
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series inspired by you know, how obsessed and interested I
am in restaurants and food. That's how I started as
a professional writer, mostly with a food focus. So this
has been something I've been at least interested in for
a long time since I was in culinary school in Chicago.
So it's an important piece for when we're traveling and
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wherever we are, for in a city, a town, around
a national park. I always put a lot of effort
into researching great local restaurants or check out bars, whether
it's from a historical perspe active or just like getting
a local taste of that culture of that region. So
and I love reaping the benefits of this. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
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So I can't think of a better topic to start
with than Disney World, because not only do we talk
about Disney World a ton and reference it on the podcast,
but you and I are fresh off just about three
months of staying right near Disney and spending a lot
of time there. So we were there for the duration
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of Epcot Food and Wine. You were working at it,
and that was from August through November. Good chunk of time.
But we arrived before ours. Right now, we were there
for like a hundred days. Yes, we're like a third
of year, almost a yeah, fourth of year, over a
fourth of a year, right, which is I mean, I
can't think of a better place to spend that much
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time than Disney World. So at this point I have
especially eaten my way around all the parks and beyond. Yes,
I can definitely speak to it, and I want to
start by clarifying that this is not about Orlando. Orlando
and Disney World are they get lumped in together there
frequently kind of synonymous, but they are totally different places.
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They're eight twenty miles apart. It's a thirty dollar lift
ride to get from one to the other. I can
attest to that because you've done it multiple times a week,
because you wanted to try the differences between Disney World
and Orlando and just experience the whole culture, and they're
so different. In Orlando's dining seems incredible, So I don't
want to blur them all together here. That's actually deserved
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to have itsone episode later. But this is all about
Disney World, which contrary to what a lot of people
might think, it's not all Mickey shaped pretzels and tiros
and stuff like that. There are plenty of those, and
they're delicious, but Disney World has so much to offer,
and I was delighted by our experience here and the
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different restaurants and kind of food stall at the parks,
and then Disney Springs and even some of the hotels
have great dining options as well, which are all destination worthy.
So I think it makes the most sense to divvy
this little episode into the different parks, Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, Epcot,
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Hollywood Studios, because that's obviously where we spent the bulk
of our time, and then also adding in Disney Springs.
We can't Yeah, that was a huge, pleasant surprise, obsessed
to that place. But I want to talk about the
best food options and highlights at each park, starting with
the main the most iconic one Magic Kingdom, and I'm
starting with that because it's my least favorite for food,
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so it's only going to go up for here Magic Kingdom.
I have some issues. I love it, it's the most nostalgia.
It's probably my favorite park for like rides in nostalgia.
But the food it's just not nearly as kind of
amazing as the other three. It's it seems a little
dated or a lot dated. And the lack of bars
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is an issue. Right. They make it drink everywhere so
difficult anywhere. They make it really hard, and unlike the
other three parks, which like have alcohol everywhere like coffee
shops have it and magicing, that makes it really like
annoyingly difficult, which is aggravating because it's the most crowded
and if I'm going to be like, you know, bouncing
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my way through a sea of strollers and waiting in
line for two hours, like the least they could do
is not make it impossible to get a beer exactly.
But no, and not only that, but they have places
with names that sound like bars, like guest On Tavern
and the Enchanted Tiki Room that's sound like bars, but
they're not so it's misleading. Um, So with that out
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of the way, way too much right now, right, there
are some gems here. I think the best full service
restaurant is Skipper's Canteen. The full name is Jungle Navigation
Company Skipper's Canteen. It's the restaurant or by and inspired
by the Jungle Cruise ride, which is great. We did. Yeah,
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we had to wait for like an hour for a
lunch seating, but it was worth it. The food is
really good, and the full service restaurants at Magic Kingdom
are also the only places where you can get alcohol,
so keep that in mind. But this place was one
to reply that had. It had a really fun, like
jungle track vibe. The people who worked there were really
into it, like NonStop jokes and like quirky jungle references
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and stuff like that. A lot of fun. And then
the food is really adventurous, like you're like on a
you know, jungle journey, with pretty eclectic dishes like corn
pancakes with beer braised pork and pepper salsa and avocado cream.
Loved they were kind of like open face sliders with
corn pancakes. So good, absolutely delicious. Right, and then we
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had Brazilian cheese bread ye favorite, and then shrimp dumplings
as well. I think there are pork and shrimp dumplings
um So we had like an array of snacks and
some line and it was really yummy. So I would
recommend that make reservations for that one if you can,
because it is popular. And then the other kind of
main iconic dining destination and magic kingdom is b our Guest,
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which is the Beating the Beast restaurant. It's inside the
Beating the Beast Castle in Fantasyland, and that was very
hard to get into. It took me like two months
to get a reservation for just me. And even when
you have a reservation, you're waiting in line, like meandering
through the castle making your order, finding a seat. And
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I think most of the charm here, for all the
charm is the like just the ambiance because it's very
theatrical and regal. Obviously you're in a castle in the
dining rooms are gorgeous, so are Nate. There are three
different dining spaces you can dine in, like the the
like kind of West Wing or whatever. We're Yeah, it's
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like dark and ominous with the rose and then there's
like the ballroom and then there's the like main dining
room where a bell gets serenaded in the movie, and
I sat in the ballroom, which I thought was the
prettiest and most lavish. The food is like French Ish.
It's like French American because the movie takes place in France,
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even though no one speaks French in the movie. My
favorite part though, was they have this cupcake basically it's
like a chocolate cupcake and they call it the gray Stuff,
like from the movie. Lumier's like, try the gray Stuff.
It's delicious, and it's basically just like a gray colored
butter cream frosting, which doesn't look great, like it's gray.
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It's not an appealing flavor or a thing you want
to eat, but it was great. It was my favorite
part of the meal for sure, the Gray Stuff. It
was delicious. And the other thing that I think I
really enjoyed eating at Magic Kingdom was there they have
this like spring roll stall, which when I was there
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was stationed kind of permanently right by the entrance to
it entry land, and they do spring rolls filled with
things like cheeseburger and pepperoni pizza and really yummy. Yeah,
so you get to pre order and it's a good
light on the go snack, and I thought it was
shockingly good. I didn't try them until like we were
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already there for two months and I was like, what
have I been wasting my time? My favorite meal? Magic
Kingdom are still the Mickey Years? You still well Magic Kingdom.
They don't set a very very far with foods, so
years it's not the same for every part for me
as well. So that's Magic Kingdom. We'll leave that there
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and then moving on to another kingdom, Animal Kingdom. It's
a great park. It's beautifully designed. The ambiance in all
the different sections like Africa and Asia and the dinosaur
land phenomenal. It's all beautifully done. And the food and
drinks I think match that as well that they put
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a lot of effort into it and it looks good,
tastes great. So when you're going to ann walking them,
the first thing you should do is make a bee
line to Creature Comforts, which is basically a decked out Starbucks.
It is a Starbucks but kind of wrapped to look
like this individual like Jungly place. You've got to get
your morning coffee, right, I gotta get coffee. Yeah, so
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do that first and then later in the day, I
think for lunch. My favorite place is in the Pandora section,
the newer section of the park where the Avatar ride is. Yeah,
so I'm not sharpen. It' Sutulli Canteen. It's right outside
like the main attraction. They're the main rid there multiple
times to get loved it. It was so good. So
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it's like customizable balls. Essentially, you pick your base, pick
your protein sauce, and then go from there where you
get like a whole platter for sixty eight people for
which is a great price when you think about it,
because it has all of those different meats and proteins
and you know all that. Yes, so you can get noodles,
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you can get rice. My favorite is getting the hardy
salad as a base because it is it's like very nurishing,
very hard to get, like broccoli and cauliflower and like
leafy greens. And then weirdly they add boba, like popping
boba pearls on top of it. Okay, but it kind
of works, I guess. And then I like the wood
grilled chicken because then they give you a lot of it.
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The portion is like very generous, and then pair that
with one of their green beers. It's like green bluish
and it's somewhat hoppy. It's kind of like an I
p A, which is my favorite. So it basically their
avatar beer. And that's so that restaurants and must and
then for something like in the evening, the cocktails and
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snacks at the Nomad Lounge are fantastic. Love the Nomad
around UM. That's where I first met Chef Al who
was the Um executive chef for Tiffins and mad and uh,
that's where our maple syrup was featured at burns Maywood Farms.
When we got to go there, that was my first
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time going to Disney. It was your first experience and
it was and it was such one of those like
immersive experiences. But they're just they have so many amazing
things in Animal Kingdom. And ever since then, Chef l
has been promoted to Food and Beverage Director over Upcot
and he does all the things in up concluding food
and wine and festivals and all that fun stuff, and
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so it's just really amazing too to see how you know,
he was promoted within the company, but I know, this
is a very large side track from what's really important.
The food and cocktails at No Mad Lounge. Yeah, they're
they're definitely noteworthy. They have really solid drinks, really good food.
We always get the like Brad service and it's like
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this tray impressed. Yeah, different Brads inspired by different countries
across the world. They have like an Indian pancake, like
flat Brad. The best is the pomegranate focaccia, so tasty,
and then it's served with these different like chutneys and
sauces and yogurts. So great. I could just go here
have that in some cocktails. Yeah, that's spicy coriander yogurt
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is so good, especially when you mix it with that
tomato chutney. Yeah, that's it's a good idea to mix
and then like kind of customize each bite because why not.
And then the cocktails are really good too. They're all
like each They have different sections of the many. There's
like the Asia section, there's cocktails inspired by Africa, so
it kind of mimics the layout of the park too.
And you have drinks like the Night Monkey, which has
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dark brom guava, pure coffee syrup, lime juice and cilantro.
Kind of a wild mix of flavors there, but we're
beautifully yeah, very good. And then right next door to
the Nomad Lounge is the more formal, full service restaurant
called Tiffins, So it's all kind of in the same building.
Nomad Lounge is more casual bar side with a nice
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patiom or nice deck, and then Tiffins is where we
most recently ate here on our anniversary. That's right. We
did our anniversaries fully packed with multiple parks. Yeah, we're
park hopping. And then this is where we ended the
day with dinner Tiffins. So you get kind of a
more expanded version of the offerings that Nomad Lounge, and
that's drink wise also food wise, so you have like
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really intricate, impressive dishes like falafel with mint pistachio pasto,
and we had charted octopus with thereso and that right
there was to die for. And the good thing is
this is included on the Disney Dining Plan if you're
going there on a vacation. We weren't. We weren't, but um,
you know you can. You can definitely make reservations here. Yeah,
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So Tiffin's excellent. If you want kind of the classy,
full service dining experience, I think it's worth one of
the past, and like all of Disney World, and then
moving on from Animal Kingdom, there's Hollywood Studios, which is
another place I hold near and dear to Minustalter Cart,
I love it there and a few places is really
capture that nostalgia and American e quite like the Hollywood
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Brown Derby, which so great. We went there. That was
the very first thing we did when we got our
like Disney passes. Yeah, we just went in the bottom
were like, well we should just go right and it
was like two hours before the park closed or three
hours before the park closed, and it was perfect. We
made a mad dash to the Brown Derby. It's just
like gorgeous, like old, like I don't know, nineteen twenties
Hollywood style restaurant with like framed photos or like they're
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probably fake photos because there's thousands of them here. And
it's this big like dec in and dining room with
great food. We have like Cobbs salads and scallops and
stuff like that, and martinis, excellent martinis. You can get
them into Flight Forward table side recommended. Yeah, Manhattan's solid,
like really solid Manhattan's and it's wonderful, so do that.
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Also for something more casual, if you just wanted a
drink and a snack or something, there's Baseline Tap House
and they have all California inspired stuff. All they have
an impressive roster of California beers on tap as well
as California wines on tap. And then even a couple
of cocktails, yes, like a margharita, and then those change
and rotate, I think they all do, but it's mostly beer.
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They even have a cider, and then they have snacks
like charcrudi in a pretzel. So not really a meal
type place, but great to get a drink on the go.
And then right next door to that, another like whimsical,
wonderful place we went as well is the Sci Fi
Dine in Theater. That was such an immersive experience and
the experiences that you feel that all these are different.
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Like the Brown Derby, you feel royal and regal. You know,
Baseline Tap it's just like cool and breezy like California.
When you get to this one, you just you immerse
him into a d in the Yeah, I felt like
a kid again, because I remember going here as a kid.
It's like this outdoor drive in theater vibe with like
twinkling stars all over the ceiling and then black white movies.
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So I exactly like a child, except a child who
drinks Pinot griccio because and by the bottle. Yeah right,
it was great. So make a reservation there because they're
all like little cars. You like literally sit in these
like kind of fake cars, which totally as to the ambience,
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and those are popular, unsurprisingly, so they tend to fill up.
And then the other highlight at Hollywood Studios more recently
is the Star Wars section called um Galaxy's Edge that
opened like a few days after we arrived to Disney World,
so it's still knew. I went on opening day. Yeah,
you're crazy. That was insane, big mistake, honestly, Like I
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thought it would be fun and like an experience to
do that on an opening day and five lines. Twenty
years from now, when you forget about the lines, you'll
be like I was there on open and you'll brag
about it, and it was fun. I did like very
little things because I I can only wait in like
one five hour line. I'm not going to do other things,
but it was cool to see. They did a great
job with the design of the land here. And in
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addition to the ride, they have some really interesting and
inventive dining options like Milkstand. Milkstand, that's it. That's just
like such a creamy, beautiful cocktail. So they're kind of
like they're not milkshakes. They're more like rice, so it's
dairy free. They're made with a rice milk base, and
they're kind of like rice milk smoothies. One is green,
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one is blue. Those are the only two options on
the menu. You can get the blue milk of the
green milk one. I think the green is like more
kind of tropical flavor. The blue has more of a
coconut kind of creaminess. And ones with Raman Watche tequila,
right you you can add that, yeah, and I would
recommend that. And then across the way from Milkstand is
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the much more popular um bar that is difficult to
get into because it's so popular. It's called Oga's Cantina. Yes,
so great, it's really fun. It's um We did this
on our anniversary. We did we started our day here.
We went to the cantina and had rum cocktails at
six thirty in the morning, because that's should we tell
people that. I mean, I mean, that's just like, yeah,
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but when you walk in, it feels like this party
and you walk into this cave and then it's all
dark and lively, like a canteena from the Star Wars movies,
you know, bursting with life and energy, and there's like
a DJ. There's a DJ. There's a DJ at six thirty.
So if the DJs here were so with the cocktails.
And that was the first time in my life, hopefully
the last time that I had cocktails with oatmeal. Yeah.
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That was rough, that was but it was delicious. I mean,
I'm not gonna our our whole. Like breakfast meal was
really expensive, very expensive. It was the most expensive breakfast
and the weirdest breakfast. But we got tiki mugs and
things like that. Yeah, the first edition. Yes, oh yeah.
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I was able to go back, like a month or
two later and go here at a normal hour and
have drinks when it's socially acceptable to do so. And
when I did that, I got this really epic beer
flight and you try I think it's four or five
different beers and they're serving this gorgeous and really like
elaborate wooden fixture with what's meant to be like alien
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teeth or something as the almost the glass work. Yeah,
so they used the two the teeth to pour the
beer into and you drink out of that, and then
it's a souvenir. You get to keep the whole thing.
It weighs like thirty pounds. I mean it sound like
it was cheap either you bought it. Now you've been
listening to park Landia. We'll be right back after this break. Hi,
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I'm Matt and I'm Brad. This is Parklandia, and today
we're talking about all the great food and drink at
Disney World in Florida. So that's Hollywood Studios. And then
the big one for dining of all the parks is
absolutely Epcot. Yeah, this is the place where you dine
around the world, drink around the world, and it's amazing
and enthralling, and so many of the restaurants are legitimately wonderful.
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And spent eighty seven days here almost all of them there.
And I got to go to a lot of like
you know, for lunches. I went out and grabbed things
and then we went back multiple times, but I would
say that you went here more than any other part easily. Yeah,
And it's just like probably my favorite part because as
an adult they have much more things oriented for that
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and foods and culture, food history. So here are my
like kind of quick hit favorites at Epcot for dining
and drinking. There's a great buffet at Beer Garden restaurant
in Germany, so much for you can go nuts. And
then I would recommend getting full beer poores at Block
and Hans. In the America section, yes, like my favorite
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Kentucky bourbon barrel ale beer. Yes, they also have I
p A. Even they have Goose Island another options. It
was meant for me, that whole thing. That's a good one.
I guess I'm just plainly American. So that's the best
thing for for beer, I think. And then the Mexico
section is really solid. They have this place inside this
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big pyramid called La Cava del Tequila, so it's there
like dark, cozy, little tequila cave, great mescal selection and tequila,
and they have things like mescalin and grownies and a
whole variety of margaritas, including like Avocada margarita is nice
and creamy and a little sweet delicious, and then heaping
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platters of chips and sausa and guacamole. Very generous. Don't
start here though, because you will you won't get a
little bit buzzy yeah, because they are beautifully done heavy cocktails,
so make sure to do that in the middle or
towards the end of your trip, right. I would also
recommend getting Scotch eggs and black and tans and or
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maybe fish and chips or something at the Rose and
Crown Pub in the UK. Every time we had to
go there. That place is just fantastic. I'm obsessed with
the decor and everything in the UK section here. It's
really wonderful. And then also we love getting charcouderie and
cheese and wine flights at Tudou Gusto Wine Cellar in Italy.
That was charming and just really really fun. It's snacks beautiful,
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and I also love the Nigerian meat pies, which is
from this like Africa section in the park. They didn't
have like a full service restaurant there, but it's like
this casual walk up counter where you can get Nigerian
meat pies. They also have like a dessert of some
sort At the time it was a lion king themed pancotta.
But I wasn't really feeling that I missed food and wine.
I know, so food and wine that I mean, that's
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a whole thing in and of itself. It's just like
nearly three month long festival where it's Epcot, just like
times a hundred because they bring in like thirty eight
additional boost for food and snacks and they're all like
snack like bites at like prais like five average. But
it's good because like each you and the other person
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that you're with, hopefully um you can eat you like
get a good bite and like good taste of that.
It's a really good place to go share things. Right.
So in addition to all this wonderful stuff that's there
year round, all these restaurants, they add all these other
countries with these many kind of smaller stands, everything from
like Australia to Thailand to what like Brazil, Belgium. It's
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a it's a lot all are and it's they're kind
of situaated scattered all over the global the World Pavilion here,
World Showcase. And my favorites from Food and Wine were
the chicken tkaraakey boal bunds from the Japan, the Brazilian
cheese bread from Brazil the I love. There's the charcuterie
and like cheese cones from Spain. Great and I just
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did not get a chance to trick. There was Escargo
croissans from France, which also gets points for being the craziest,
but it was good. It was like garlicy. They had
like this or pesto thing on topple for it. Yeah.
Then boozy mangolosses from India and they spiked that with
Chila core which is so yummy and creamy and just
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the perfect amount of spice. And then Hummus fries from Morocco,
which was really interesting as well. They really are. Those
were beautiful and they're like thick fries almost like cheese takes. Yeah,
they were. They were like more like but French fries. Beautiful.
So that's Opcot. That's Epcot Food and Wine. And then,
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like we mentioned, the real surprise stunner here of all
this is Disney Springs, which I had not done prior
to going here this time. And this is not one
of the parts. It's part of Disney World. It's more
of like the shopping, dining, retail place with like a
movie theater and bowling alley. It's near Act. They used
to be called Downtown Disney and now it's Disney Springs
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because it is. It's it's more uplifted, a lot more
great like restaurants and coffinomenal, a lot of our friends,
Chef Art Smith, Rick bayliss Um, these amazing Chicago based
chefs and restaurants are here. So good. Yeah, and it's huge.
It's the sprawling shopping and dining complex. And we've been
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multiple times and didn't even go to like a quarter
of the places here, probably, but it's wonderful and we
loved so much of it. We we I think our
favorite is probably Homecoming, which was Art Smith. We've been
there five times. You just leave there with your soul full. Yeah,
and it's like Southern comfort, deliciousness in a really beautiful building.
And Chef Art he used to be Oprah's um private
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chef and so now he knows what he's bringing that
good food to the world and it's just a really
inspiring place to go. Um and there's we went. When
so many people people came Intomtown, we said we got
to go here here getting fried chicken, deviled eggs, and
hummingbird cake, all of it. That was a good one.
I also loved this like wild place called the Addis
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in this like sprawling two story restaurant and bar that's
like has a steampunk vibe and it's just insane. They
have like theatrical components and people doing acrobatics from the
ceiling and then like employees here just randomly walking around
on stilts. For it was such a wonderful experience to
go there. It is great cocktails, yes, innovative for innovative cocktails,
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which are right up our alley, so good for that.
And then we also loved this place called the Polite Pig,
which is more casual. It gets it gets hopping like
later in the evening, so go for lunch or like
an early dinner. So it's barbecue and they have great
like pulled pork and brisket and like barbecue glaze, fried
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chicken sandwiches and stuff like that. But the real winner
is probably the best Manhattan cocktail we had a Disney
World was solid and delicious, and I would go there
just to sit at the bar and have absolutely snack
on some fried chicken sliders or some like that. That's
a good way to go. And then I think the
last one to shout out that was noteworthy that we
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loved was this place called Enzo's Hideaway. This like tunnel
they called a tunnel bar. It's this kind of under
quasi underground Italian speakeasy or you know, it kind of
looks like if Olive Garden was to speakeasy, but like
the food the way better, like negrons and the wine,
grape wine selection, cheeseboards, stuff like that, but again wildly popular.
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We tried to go back with my sister and they
were like it'll be two hours. We're like, never mind,
And did you mention from taro? Oh yeah, bay cannot
forget Rick Bayless's restaurant. And what's really cool is when
I was working in Farmers Market to Chicago and when
we were going to different restaurants, you know, we really
met Greg and Leah gunthorpe Um and they actually provide
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Rick with their terso um the special trees are made
for Rick and it's it's one of the best appetite
just on that menu. So you definitely have to jump
by there and enjoy all the delicious foods that Rick has. Yeah,
so that's these are some highlights from here. I was like,
as you can see, I could just go on and
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on and on and make really a whole podcast about this.
But Disney World has so much not only to do
ride wise and attraction wise, but the food at all
the parks at Disney Springs is phenomenal and it's come
a long way since. I'm sure like when I went
there as a kid, not that I was like paying
much attention to that, but it's become really like an
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attraction in and of itself, the dining scene and the
drinking scene at Disney World. And absolutely, yes, you should
definitely go here and branch out from the Mickey Pretzels.
Treat yourself now again, but like branch out because there's
a there's a whole Disney World of flavor to to explore.
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Hi, I'm Matt and I'm Brad. This is park Landia
production of I Heart Radio. We sold our loft in Chicago,
moved into an RV, and now we're talking the country
full time with our dog Finn, exploring America's national parks.
And today we're really excited to bring to you our
first episode of Traveling Eats with Matt. Yes, I'm so excited.
So this is a little kind of mini bonus episode
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series inspired by you know, how obsessed and interested I
am in restaurants and food. That's how I started as
a professional writer, mostly with a food focus. So this
has been something I've been at least interested in for
a long time since I was in culinary school in Chicago.
So it's an important piece for when we're traveling and
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wherever we are, for in a city, a town, around
a national park. I always put a lot of effort
into researching great local restaurants or check out bars, whether
it's from a historical perspe active or just like getting
a local taste of that culture of that region. So
and I love reaping the benefits of this. Yeah, totally. Yeah.
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So I can't think of a better topic to start
with than Disney World, because not only do we talk
about Disney World a ton and reference it on the podcast,
but you and I are fresh off just about three
months of staying right near Disney and spending a lot
of time there. So we were there for the duration
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of Epcot Food and Wine. You were working at it,
and that was from August through November. Good chunk of time.
But we arrived before ours. Right now, we were there
for like a hundred days. Yes, we're like a third
of year, almost a yeah, fourth of year, over a
fourth of a year, right, which is I mean, I
can't think of a better place to spend that much
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time than Disney World. So at this point I have
especially eaten my way around all the parks and beyond. Yes,
I can definitely speak to it, and I want to
start by clarifying that this is not about Orlando. Orlando
and Disney World are they get lumped in together there
frequently kind of synonymous, but they are totally different places.
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They're eight twenty miles apart. It's a thirty dollar lift
ride to get from one to the other. I can
attest to that because you've done it multiple times a week,
because you wanted to try the differences between Disney World
and Orlando and just experience the whole culture, and they're
so different. In Orlando's dining seems incredible, So I don't
want to blur them all together here. That's actually deserved
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to have itsone episode later. But this is all about
Disney World, which contrary to what a lot of people
might think, it's not all Mickey shaped pretzels and tiros
and stuff like that. There are plenty of those, and
they're delicious, but Disney World has so much to offer,
and I was delighted by our experience here and the
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different restaurants and kind of food stall at the parks,
and then Disney Springs and even some of the hotels
have great dining options as well, which are all destination worthy.
So I think it makes the most sense to divvy
this little episode into the different parks, Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, Epcot,
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Hollywood Studios, because that's obviously where we spent the bulk
of our time, and then also adding in Disney Springs.
We can't Yeah, that was a huge, pleasant surprise, obsessed
to that place. But I want to talk about the
best food options and highlights at each park, starting with
the main the most iconic one Magic Kingdom, and I'm
starting with that because it's my least favorite for food,
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so it's only going to go up for here Magic Kingdom.
I have some issues. I love it, it's the most nostalgia.
It's probably my favorite park for like rides in nostalgia.
But the food it's just not nearly as kind of
amazing as the other three. It's it seems a little
dated or a lot dated. And the lack of bars
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is an issue. Right. They make it drink everywhere so
difficult anywhere. They make it really hard, and unlike the
other three parks, which like have alcohol everywhere like coffee
shops have it and magicing, that makes it really like
annoyingly difficult, which is aggravating because it's the most crowded
and if I'm going to be like, you know, bouncing
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my way through a sea of strollers and waiting in
line for two hours, like the least they could do
is not make it impossible to get a beer exactly.
But no, and not only that, but they have places
with names that sound like bars, like guest On Tavern
and the Enchanted Tiki Room that's sound like bars, but
they're not so it's misleading. Um, So with that out
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of the way, way too much right now, right, there
are some gems here. I think the best full service
restaurant is Skipper's Canteen. The full name is Jungle Navigation
Company Skipper's Canteen. It's the restaurant or by and inspired
by the Jungle Cruise ride, which is great. We did. Yeah,
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we had to wait for like an hour for a
lunch seating, but it was worth it. The food is
really good, and the full service restaurants at Magic Kingdom
are also the only places where you can get alcohol,
so keep that in mind. But this place was one
to reply that had. It had a really fun, like
jungle track vibe. The people who worked there were really
into it, like NonStop jokes and like quirky jungle references
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and stuff like that. A lot of fun. And then
the food is really adventurous, like you're like on a
you know, jungle journey, with pretty eclectic dishes like corn
pancakes with beer braised pork and pepper salsa and avocado cream.
Loved they were kind of like open face sliders with
corn pancakes. So good, absolutely delicious. Right, and then we
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had Brazilian cheese bread ye favorite, and then shrimp dumplings
as well. I think there are pork and shrimp dumplings
um So we had like an array of snacks and
some line and it was really yummy. So I would
recommend that make reservations for that one if you can,
because it is popular. And then the other kind of
main iconic dining destination and magic kingdom is b our Guest,
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which is the Beating the Beast restaurant. It's inside the
Beating the Beast Castle in Fantasyland, and that was very
hard to get into. It took me like two months
to get a reservation for just me. And even when
you have a reservation, you're waiting in line, like meandering
through the castle making your order, finding a seat. And
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I think most of the charm here, for all the
charm is the like just the ambiance because it's very
theatrical and regal. Obviously you're in a castle in the
dining rooms are gorgeous, so are Nate. There are three
different dining spaces you can dine in, like the the
like kind of West Wing or whatever. We're Yeah, it's
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like dark and ominous with the rose and then there's
like the ballroom and then there's the like main dining
room where a bell gets serenaded in the movie, and
I sat in the ballroom, which I thought was the
prettiest and most lavish. The food is like French Ish.
It's like French American because the movie takes place in France,
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even though no one speaks French in the movie. My
favorite part though, was they have this cupcake basically it's
like a chocolate cupcake and they call it the gray Stuff,
like from the movie. Lumier's like, try the gray Stuff.
It's delicious, and it's basically just like a gray colored
butter cream frosting, which doesn't look great, like it's gray.
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It's not an appealing flavor or a thing you want
to eat, but it was great. It was my favorite
part of the meal for sure, the Gray Stuff. It
was delicious. And the other thing that I think I
really enjoyed eating at Magic Kingdom was there they have
this like spring roll stall, which when I was there
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was stationed kind of permanently right by the entrance to
it entry land, and they do spring rolls filled with
things like cheeseburger and pepperoni pizza and really yummy. Yeah,
so you get to pre order and it's a good
light on the go snack, and I thought it was
shockingly good. I didn't try them until like we were
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already there for two months and I was like, what
have I been wasting my time? My favorite meal? Magic
Kingdom are still the Mickey Years? You still well Magic Kingdom.
They don't set a very very far with foods, so
years it's not the same for every part for me
as well. So that's Magic Kingdom. We'll leave that there
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and then moving on to another kingdom, Animal Kingdom. It's
a great park. It's beautifully designed. The ambiance in all
the different sections like Africa and Asia and the dinosaur
land phenomenal. It's all beautifully done. And the food and
drinks I think match that as well that they put
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a lot of effort into it and it looks good,
tastes great. So when you're going to ann walking them,
the first thing you should do is make a bee
line to Creature Comforts, which is basically a decked out Starbucks.
It is a Starbucks but kind of wrapped to look
like this individual like Jungly place. You've got to get
your morning coffee, right, I gotta get coffee. Yeah, so
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do that first and then later in the day, I
think for lunch. My favorite place is in the Pandora section,
the newer section of the park where the Avatar ride is. Yeah,
so I'm not sharpen. It' Sutulli Canteen. It's right outside
like the main attraction. They're the main rid there multiple
times to get loved it. It was so good. So
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it's like customizable balls. Essentially, you pick your base, pick
your protein sauce, and then go from there where you
get like a whole platter for sixty eight people for
which is a great price when you think about it,
because it has all of those different meats and proteins
and you know all that. Yes, so you can get noodles,
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you can get rice. My favorite is getting the hardy
salad as a base because it is it's like very nurishing,
very hard to get, like broccoli and cauliflower and like
leafy greens. And then weirdly they add boba, like popping
boba pearls on top of it. Okay, but it kind
of works, I guess. And then I like the wood
grilled chicken because then they give you a lot of it.
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The portion is like very generous, and then pair that
with one of their green beers. It's like green bluish
and it's somewhat hoppy. It's kind of like an I
p A, which is my favorite. So it basically their
avatar beer. And that's so that restaurants and must and
then for something like in the evening, the cocktails and
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snacks at the Nomad Lounge are fantastic. Love the Nomad
around UM. That's where I first met Chef Al who
was the Um executive chef for Tiffins and mad and uh,
that's where our maple syrup was featured at burns Maywood Farms.
When we got to go there, that was my first
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time going to Disney. It was your first experience and
it was and it was such one of those like
immersive experiences. But they're just they have so many amazing
things in Animal Kingdom. And ever since then, Chef l
has been promoted to Food and Beverage Director over Upcot
and he does all the things in up concluding food
and wine and festivals and all that fun stuff, and
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so it's just really amazing too to see how you know,
he was promoted within the company, but I know, this
is a very large side track from what's really important.
The food and cocktails at No Mad Lounge. Yeah, they're
they're definitely noteworthy. They have really solid drinks, really good food.
We always get the like Brad service and it's like
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this tray impressed. Yeah, different Brads inspired by different countries
across the world. They have like an Indian pancake, like
flat Brad. The best is the pomegranate focaccia, so tasty,
and then it's served with these different like chutneys and
sauces and yogurts. So great. I could just go here
have that in some cocktails. Yeah, that's spicy coriander yogurt
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is so good, especially when you mix it with that
tomato chutney. Yeah, that's it's a good idea to mix
and then like kind of customize each bite because why not.
And then the cocktails are really good too. They're all
like each They have different sections of the many. There's
like the Asia section, there's cocktails inspired by Africa, so
it kind of mimics the layout of the park too.
And you have drinks like the Night Monkey, which has
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dark brom guava, pure coffee syrup, lime juice and cilantro.
Kind of a wild mix of flavors there, but we're
beautifully yeah, very good. And then right next door to
the Nomad Lounge is the more formal, full service restaurant
called Tiffins, So it's all kind of in the same building.
Nomad Lounge is more casual bar side with a nice
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patiom or nice deck, and then Tiffins is where we
most recently ate here on our anniversary. That's right. We
did our anniversaries fully packed with multiple parks. Yeah, we're
park hopping. And then this is where we ended the
day with dinner Tiffins. So you get kind of a
more expanded version of the offerings that Nomad Lounge, and
that's drink wise also food wise, so you have like
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really intricate, impressive dishes like falafel with mint pistachio pasto,
and we had charted octopus with thereso and that right
there was to die for. And the good thing is
this is included on the Disney Dining Plan if you're
going there on a vacation. We weren't. We weren't, but um,
you know you can. You can definitely make reservations here. Yeah,
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So Tiffin's excellent. If you want kind of the classy,
full service dining experience, I think it's worth one of
the past, and like all of Disney World, and then
moving on from Animal Kingdom, there's Hollywood Studios, which is
another place I hold near and dear to Minustalter Cart,
I love it there and a few places is really
capture that nostalgia and American e quite like the Hollywood
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Brown Derby, which so great. We went there. That was
the very first thing we did when we got our
like Disney passes. Yeah, we just went in the bottom
were like, well we should just go right and it
was like two hours before the park closed or three
hours before the park closed, and it was perfect. We
made a mad dash to the Brown Derby. It's just
like gorgeous, like old, like I don't know, nineteen twenties
Hollywood style restaurant with like framed photos or like they're
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probably fake photos because there's thousands of them here. And
it's this big like dec in and dining room with
great food. We have like Cobbs salads and scallops and
stuff like that, and martinis, excellent martinis. You can get
them into Flight Forward table side recommended. Yeah, Manhattan's solid,
like really solid Manhattan's and it's wonderful, so do that.
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Also for something more casual, if you just wanted a
drink and a snack or something, there's Baseline Tap House
and they have all California inspired stuff. All they have
an impressive roster of California beers on tap as well
as California wines on tap. And then even a couple
of cocktails, yes, like a margharita, and then those change
and rotate, I think they all do, but it's mostly beer.
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They even have a cider, and then they have snacks
like charcrudi in a pretzel. So not really a meal
type place, but great to get a drink on the go.
And then right next door to that, another like whimsical,
wonderful place we went as well is the Sci Fi
Dine in Theater. That was such an immersive experience and
the experiences that you feel that all these are different.
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Like the Brown Derby, you feel royal and regal. You know,
Baseline Tap it's just like cool and breezy like California.
When you get to this one, you just you immerse
him into a d in the Yeah, I felt like
a kid again, because I remember going here as a kid.
It's like this outdoor drive in theater vibe with like
twinkling stars all over the ceiling and then black white movies.
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So I exactly like a child, except a child who
drinks Pinot griccio because and by the bottle. Yeah right,
it was great. So make a reservation there because they're
all like little cars. You like literally sit in these
like kind of fake cars, which totally as to the ambience,
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and those are popular, unsurprisingly, so they tend to fill up.
And then the other highlight at Hollywood Studios more recently
is the Star Wars section called um Galaxy's Edge that
opened like a few days after we arrived to Disney World,
so it's still knew. I went on opening day. Yeah,
you're crazy. That was insane, big mistake, honestly, Like I
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thought it would be fun and like an experience to
do that on an opening day and five lines. Twenty
years from now, when you forget about the lines, you'll
be like I was there on open and you'll brag
about it, and it was fun. I did like very
little things because I I can only wait in like
one five hour line. I'm not going to do other things,
but it was cool to see. They did a great
job with the design of the land here. And in
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addition to the ride, they have some really interesting and
inventive dining options like Milkstand. Milkstand, that's it. That's just
like such a creamy, beautiful cocktail. So they're kind of
like they're not milkshakes. They're more like rice, so it's
dairy free. They're made with a rice milk base, and
they're kind of like rice milk smoothies. One is green,
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one is blue. Those are the only two options on
the menu. You can get the blue milk of the
green milk one. I think the green is like more
kind of tropical flavor. The blue has more of a
coconut kind of creaminess. And ones with Raman Watche tequila,
right you you can add that, yeah, and I would
recommend that. And then across the way from Milkstand is
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the much more popular um bar that is difficult to
get into because it's so popular. It's called Oga's Cantina. Yes,
so great, it's really fun. It's um We did this
on our anniversary. We did we started our day here.
We went to the cantina and had rum cocktails at
six thirty in the morning, because that's should we tell
people that. I mean, I mean, that's just like, yeah,
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but when you walk in, it feels like this party
and you walk into this cave and then it's all
dark and lively, like a canteena from the Star Wars movies,
you know, bursting with life and energy, and there's like
a DJ. There's a DJ. There's a DJ at six thirty.
So if the DJs here were so with the cocktails.
And that was the first time in my life, hopefully
the last time that I had cocktails with oatmeal. Yeah.
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That was rough, that was but it was delicious. I mean,
I'm not gonna our our whole. Like breakfast meal was
really expensive, very expensive. It was the most expensive breakfast
and the weirdest breakfast. But we got tiki mugs and
things like that. Yeah, the first edition. Yes, oh yeah.
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I was able to go back, like a month or
two later and go here at a normal hour and
have drinks when it's socially acceptable to do so. And
when I did that, I got this really epic beer
flight and you try I think it's four or five
different beers and they're serving this gorgeous and really like
elaborate wooden fixture with what's meant to be like alien
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teeth or something as the almost the glass work. Yeah,
so they used the two the teeth to pour the
beer into and you drink out of that, and then
it's a souvenir. You get to keep the whole thing.
It weighs like thirty pounds. I mean it sound like
it was cheap either you bought it. Now you've been
listening to park Landia. We'll be right back after this break. Hi,
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I'm Matt and I'm Brad. This is Parklandia, and today
we're talking about all the great food and drink at
Disney World in Florida. So that's Hollywood Studios. And then
the big one for dining of all the parks is
absolutely Epcot. Yeah, this is the place where you dine
around the world, drink around the world, and it's amazing
and enthralling, and so many of the restaurants are legitimately wonderful.
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And spent eighty seven days here almost all of them there.
And I got to go to a lot of like
you know, for lunches. I went out and grabbed things
and then we went back multiple times, but I would
say that you went here more than any other part easily. Yeah,
And it's just like probably my favorite part because as
an adult they have much more things oriented for that
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and foods and culture, food history. So here are my
like kind of quick hit favorites at Epcot for dining
and drinking. There's a great buffet at Beer Garden restaurant
in Germany, so much for you can go nuts. And
then I would recommend getting full beer poores at Block
and Hans. In the America section, yes, like my favorite
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Kentucky bourbon barrel ale beer. Yes, they also have I
p A. Even they have Goose Island another options. It
was meant for me, that whole thing. That's a good one.
I guess I'm just plainly American. So that's the best
thing for for beer, I think. And then the Mexico
section is really solid. They have this place inside this
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big pyramid called La Cava del Tequila, so it's there
like dark, cozy, little tequila cave, great mescal selection and tequila,
and they have things like mescalin and grownies and a
whole variety of margaritas, including like Avocada margarita is nice
and creamy and a little sweet delicious, and then heaping
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platters of chips and sausa and guacamole. Very generous. Don't
start here though, because you will you won't get a
little bit buzzy yeah, because they are beautifully done heavy cocktails,
so make sure to do that in the middle or
towards the end of your trip, right. I would also
recommend getting Scotch eggs and black and tans and or
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maybe fish and chips or something at the Rose and
Crown Pub in the UK. Every time we had to
go there. That place is just fantastic. I'm obsessed with
the decor and everything in the UK section here. It's
really wonderful. And then also we love getting charcouderie and
cheese and wine flights at Tudou Gusto Wine Cellar in Italy.
That was charming and just really really fun. It's snacks beautiful,
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and I also love the Nigerian meat pies, which is
from this like Africa section in the park. They didn't
have like a full service restaurant there, but it's like
this casual walk up counter where you can get Nigerian
meat pies. They also have like a dessert of some
sort At the time it was a lion king themed pancotta.
But I wasn't really feeling that I missed food and wine.
I know, so food and wine that I mean, that's
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a whole thing in and of itself. It's just like
nearly three month long festival where it's Epcot, just like
times a hundred because they bring in like thirty eight
additional boost for food and snacks and they're all like
snack like bites at like prais like five average. But
it's good because like each you and the other person
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that you're with, hopefully um you can eat you like
get a good bite and like good taste of that.
It's a really good place to go share things. Right.
So in addition to all this wonderful stuff that's there
year round, all these restaurants, they add all these other
countries with these many kind of smaller stands, everything from
like Australia to Thailand to what like Brazil, Belgium. It's
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a it's a lot all are and it's they're kind
of situaated scattered all over the global the World Pavilion here,
World Showcase. And my favorites from Food and Wine were
the chicken tkaraakey boal bunds from the Japan, the Brazilian
cheese bread from Brazil the I love. There's the charcuterie
and like cheese cones from Spain. Great and I just
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did not get a chance to trick. There was Escargo
croissans from France, which also gets points for being the craziest,
but it was good. It was like garlicy. They had
like this or pesto thing on topple for it. Yeah.
Then boozy mangolosses from India and they spiked that with
Chila core which is so yummy and creamy and just
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the perfect amount of spice. And then Hummus fries from Morocco,
which was really interesting as well. They really are. Those
were beautiful and they're like thick fries almost like cheese takes. Yeah,
they were. They were like more like but French fries. Beautiful.
So that's Opcot. That's Epcot Food and Wine. And then,
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like we mentioned, the real surprise stunner here of all
this is Disney Springs, which I had not done prior
to going here this time. And this is not one
of the parts. It's part of Disney World. It's more
of like the shopping, dining, retail place with like a
movie theater and bowling alley. It's near Act. They used
to be called Downtown Disney and now it's Disney Springs
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because it is. It's it's more uplifted, a lot more
great like restaurants and coffinomenal, a lot of our friends,
Chef Art Smith, Rick bayliss Um, these amazing Chicago based
chefs and restaurants are here. So good. Yeah, and it's huge.
It's the sprawling shopping and dining complex. And we've been
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multiple times and didn't even go to like a quarter
of the places here, probably, but it's wonderful and we
loved so much of it. We we I think our
favorite is probably Homecoming, which was Art Smith. We've been
there five times. You just leave there with your soul full. Yeah,
and it's like Southern comfort, deliciousness in a really beautiful building.
And Chef Art he used to be Oprah's um private
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chef and so now he knows what he's bringing that
good food to the world and it's just a really
inspiring place to go. Um and there's we went. When
so many people people came Intomtown, we said we got
to go here here getting fried chicken, deviled eggs, and
hummingbird cake, all of it. That was a good one.
I also loved this like wild place called the Addis
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in this like sprawling two story restaurant and bar that's
like has a steampunk vibe and it's just insane. They
have like theatrical components and people doing acrobatics from the
ceiling and then like employees here just randomly walking around
on stilts. For it was such a wonderful experience to
go there. It is great cocktails, yes, innovative for innovative cocktails,
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which are right up our alley, so good for that.
And then we also loved this place called the Polite Pig,
which is more casual. It gets it gets hopping like
later in the evening, so go for lunch or like
an early dinner. So it's barbecue and they have great
like pulled pork and brisket and like barbecue glaze, fried
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chicken sandwiches and stuff like that. But the real winner
is probably the best Manhattan cocktail we had a Disney
World was solid and delicious, and I would go there
just to sit at the bar and have absolutely snack
on some fried chicken sliders or some like that. That's
a good way to go. And then I think the
last one to shout out that was noteworthy that we
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loved was this place called Enzo's Hideaway. This like tunnel
they called a tunnel bar. It's this kind of under
quasi underground Italian speakeasy or you know, it kind of
looks like if Olive Garden was to speakeasy, but like
the food the way better, like negrons and the wine,
grape wine selection, cheeseboards, stuff like that, but again wildly popular.
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We tried to go back with my sister and they
were like it'll be two hours. We're like, never mind,
And did you mention from taro? Oh yeah, bay cannot
forget Rick Bayless's restaurant. And what's really cool is when
I was working in Farmers Market to Chicago and when
we were going to different restaurants, you know, we really
met Greg and Leah gunthorpe Um and they actually provide
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Rick with their terso um the special trees are made
for Rick and it's it's one of the best appetite
just on that menu. So you definitely have to jump
by there and enjoy all the delicious foods that Rick has. Yeah,
so that's these are some highlights from here. I was like,
as you can see, I could just go on and
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on and on and make really a whole podcast about this.
But Disney World has so much not only to do
ride wise and attraction wise, but the food at all
the parks at Disney Springs is phenomenal and it's come
a long way since. I'm sure like when I went
there as a kid, not that I was like paying
much attention to that, but it's become really like an
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attraction in and of itself, the dining scene and the
drinking scene at Disney World. And absolutely, yes, you should
definitely go here and branch out from the Mickey Pretzels.
Treat yourself now again, but like branch out because there's
a there's a whole Disney World of flavor to to explore.
You've been listening to park Landia, a show about national parks.
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Parkland is the production of My Heart Radio, created by
Matt Carouac, Brad Carouac, and Christopher has the otis producer
and edited by Mike John's. Our executive producer is Christopher
has the otis our researcher. It's Jescelyn Shield. A special
thanks goes out to Gabrielle Collins, Chrystal Waters and the
rest of the Parklandia crew and Hey listeners. If you're
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