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Hi, I'm Matt and I'm Brad. This is park Landia,
a production of I Heart Radio. We saw a loft
in Chicago, moving to an RV and now we're traveling
in the country full time with our dogs, been exploring
American's national parks and today we are bringing out another
episode of boon Docking with Brad. And today's topic is
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in the name, it is boon docking, So it's about
our first time boon docking. It's about different like safety
measures you have to go through when boondocking and different
things like that, just to help you understand what it's
kind of like to boon dock. So many you might
be asking what is boondocking? UM. Boon docking is when
you're going to be off the grid, UM, not attached
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to electricity and water for the night. So you have
to learn how your r V is self sustainable UM
to do these like one night's two up to a
week in some places. UM of what's called boon docking.
So you're not UM, you're not hooked up, you're just
on the lamb basically, and you have to like fill
your water reserves and you have to use your generator
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and how it all works and you have to understand
your electricity flow so you can know to not like
microwave and cook a pot of coffee at the same time.
There's many places to boon dock across this country, um,
from rest stop areas to Bureau of Land Management areas
to Wally World and beyond. We've done Wally World many times.
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What's Wally World Walmartin? Oh yeah, you've definitely heard me
Wally World before. But that's a great question to ask.
So with boon docking, there's a lot of different issues
or fears that come about. Um when you're first doing this. Um,
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I know when we refers doing this, Matt was asking
questions like are we gonna be uh like, uh, we're
just gonna be parking here at this rest area for
the night. Um, we're gonna just be on Wally World
for the night. Oh, we're gonna be you know, just
parking on the side of the road for the night.
And it's you know, not logical fears, right, There's definitely questions.
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But um, up until this point, have we had any issues. No,
aside from just being called occasionally. I think that's the
biggest issue. But I would say that's more because of well,
our heater in our r V is on the fritz,
and we don't want to use a space heater while
the generators running because it puts too much power to
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the generator. So sometimes we'll just leave on the engine
in the front half of the chassis of the truck
r V to stay warm, but then it gets really
hot and so we have to turn it off and
then we'll turn it back on in the morning type
of situation. But there's a lot of different things that
you have to deal with when owning an r V
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and uh getting them fixed and finding the time to
get them fixed, because sometimes you're just on the run
and going all the time and just traveling so much.
So when dry camping, there's definitely a lot of questions
that come about, um, are there gonna be a lot
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of like wild animals and bears and things like that,
And even on the Bureau of Land Management where they
allow boondocking, you're not gonna have um too much wildlife
or too much fear of that because um it's normally
in a part of the land where it's not like
covered in forest. It's not like you're gonna be driving
twenty minutes into the woods. Um, you're gonna be on
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the outskirts and where there's not a lot of things,
but you still have to be bear aware and you
have to put away your foods and things like that.
You don't want to leave them. I'll leave them out
all night for animals to to get them. UM. A
lot of people have the other question, can you leave
your rig um certain situations yes, other situations no. UM.
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I would not leave your rig in a truck stop,
but that's kind of obvious, right for many reasons, just
a lot of people coming in and out, and you're
not supposed to stay in truck stops more than sometimes
four hours, sometimes six, sometimes twelve. It just depends on
that state. So you actually have to look it up
as you're traveling. So boon docking is it's pretty um
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simple in the fact of set up, but there's a
lot of technicalities behind it to really find the right places. UM.
There's great resources out there like free roam, which is
an app that will help you find it. Then there's
like campadem um, and then another one is uh the
Bureau of Land Management BLM offices, ranger stations, and then
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even word of mouth. UM. But they're going to tell
you where, when, and how. A lot of these apps
have even cell phone strength signal to um what the
local areas like. So it's actually there's some great resources
out there to help you find those places when you
are looking for um boondocking opportunities. There's always this thing
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where Matt and I are together and we have fins.
We're not alone. Boon docking alone is definitely a different
experience UM, and there's some different fears. I mean, even
the times where I was out there and Matt was
on a trip back home to Chicago or um somewhere else, uh,
A boon docking by myself was totally different. UM. I
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didn't want to turn on the lights. I didn't have
like a safety and numbers type of feel, and so
I just kind of stayed in the dark and just
like like jumped on my tablet and watched the movies.
And I did not make it a home. So it's
kind of weird, but I, you know, these were irrational
fears that I had, and now, UM, I don't have
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those same exact fears. But in the beginning, when we
were just getting started and it was the first time
by myself, like you know, everyone can have that fear
of just like where they're boondocking and you know, not
wanting to have conversations with people, but most people won't
bother you. If you're boon docking for long term, there's
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some things that you definitely have to check. You want
to make sure that you're propane is full, UM, your
batteries are charged, and refrigerator works while um not attached
to power. But when we get into boondocking for a
long time, there's some things that you want to know.
Is like you're even if you're on like beer of
land management land or your boon docking and a rest station,
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a lot of times you're not allowed to use your
generators at night. Uh, there are still quiet hours per
se um and that's so you don't disturb the wildlife
at night. It's also so you don't disturb your neighbors,
you don't cause any issues. So you have to really
understand what you're getting into. You're going to set up
your r V almost similarly to when we were talking
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about hooking up the r V, but basically the first
thing you're gonna do is you're gonna go over to
your A C unit and make sure that your a
C is off, your heat is off, because that creates
a big surge when you start your generator. And what
we're talking about right now starting a generator because you
want to have electricity to charge your appliances, you want
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to watch a movie, you need to work, you need
to you know, showers, so you want warm hot water,
and you know, how do we do these things? How
do we turn those on? Um, So basically, you're gonna
go to a C unit, turn it off, make sure
that nothing's on, and then you're gonna go over and
in the side of our r V we have a
built in generator. So basically we have a button on
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the inside that just hit start. You prime it first
by pushing the button down for about five seconds and
the light will come on to let you know you're good,
and then you hit start and you hold it and
then your generator will start. Our generators fuel comes from
our engine, so we of course have to make sure
that we have a full tank of gas. UM. Now,
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if you're it's an off board generator, you know you're
gonna have to make sure to have a like five
gallon jug back up and things like that to make
sure that you don't run out of fuel if you're
staying UH in a boon docking situation for multiple times.
Because there's always different types of generators and how they're
set up within your RV, so it's gonna be a
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little bit different for you than it is for Matt
and myself. But once your generators on, what we do
next is we push out our bed and so that's
where our slideout is in the rear um, so we
push out that beds that way we have our full
bed um and then I normally turn on the hot
water heater, so I'll have to make sure that my
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propane is on on the outside. So basically I'll have
to walk around the r V to where our propane
tank is. I'll make sure that that is open so
that way propane is fueling into the r V, and
then I'll come back in turn on the hot water heater,
and I'll wait for about five seconds to hear the
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pilot kick on, and then that is what allows me
to know, okay, it's on, because you'll know, once you
start getting used to this, you'll hear this like sound
inside of your RV that UH is telling you that
it's on. It's a little bit different sounding, but the
rhythms more like that. But yeah, so then you'll have
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that on. You'll be able to do dishes, you'll be
able to um, take warm showers, wash your hands with
warm water, different things like that. Now r r V
with the heater, it's UM having issues with the blower motor. Um,
that's what I've gotten it down to so far. I
just have to take it in and really get it
figured out. But that's actually kind of good because that
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means my fridge it's still getting propane to keep it cold, um,
even when that generator is off. There's different things like this.
There's different technicalities that you have to understand when boon docking.
That's different from electrical setup because our fridge works off
electricity as well, and so when we have electricity coming
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in from the r V park, it's all fine and dandy.
We don't have to worry about propane. But when we're
boon docking, we do have to worry about propane. And
so that is when you have to understand how your
systems start to flow. And through a year of r
V ownership, over a year now, UM, I've really started
to understand these. Now there's some technicalities that I don't
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quite get yet. But that's a learning thing. So I'm
I'm a learner and I'm figuring it out as we go.
And this is a beautiful part is our heater doesn't
work because that propane pilot is separate from the hot
water pilot light. Um. And then there's even another one
for your oven and still open things like that. So, um,
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you have to understand where your pilot lights are, um,
what they do to control the temperatures within your RV. Right,
so keeping cold food cold, frozen food frozen, keeping shower
water hots that way you're not taking a freezing cold
shower in the middle of the winter because that happens. Uh.
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Those are miserable. I have to do one or two
of those last year, and um uh yeah, I definitely
don't want to do with that again. You are listening
to park Landia from my heart radio. Hi, I'm Matt
and I'm Brad. This Parklandia. So can you leave your
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rig after you set it up? Can you leave it? Yes,
you can leave your rig there as long as you know, um,
it's in an appropriate and safe area. Now you're gonna
want to lock your door, is you know you're gonna
want to do all the safety precautions that you do
with a normal home, but you're not going to get
your thing uh towed away in most cases. Um, unless
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you or maybe more being obnoxious, you're destructing the land,
You're you're you're just being overall jerk. That's when they're
gonna take you know, take you out. But if you're
being respectful of your neighbors of the situation of boondocking,
then you're gonna be fine. Um. You know, if you're
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closer to a city, of course, you know you're gonna
want to take some extra safety precautions. Um. And that's
coming from t people from the city. But honestly, most
people aren't gonna mess with you uh in these situations either. Now,
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when it comes to leaving pets alone when boondocking, I
have a hard time leaving Finn in our r V
while we're boondocking, So it kind of limits the things
that we're able to do when boondocking for an extended
period of time. Um. But if I do, or when
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I do, like let's say we're going on a little
hike and we're coming back, I always make sure that
generators running with the a c or heat or on
whatever is necessary to make sure that Finny doesn't get
uh too hot or too cold, because we want to
take care of him like he takes care of us.
So you're going for your first time boon docking, ever,
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I would recommend to make sure to know where the
closest r V park is. And the reason why is
because you want to test it out locally. You want
to test out near your home or within a friend
or family's home before you just go do it for
a whole week. You know, you want to go learn
kind of like what we did with Mammoth Caves. You know,
when we were first learning how to just hook up
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in r V, we went to man Caves and we
checked it out and tried it out, found our mistakes
and our issues, and that really helped us in the
long haul um because we had like a small instance
of what we needed. And then in these situations and
boon docking, when you're going to do that, you want
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to test that out locally as well. You can even
test out in your own backyard, but just make sure
that you're not going to your fridge in your home
for a beer. You want to know that you can
have a cold beer in your in your fridge in
your r V as well, So make sure to take
the time to learn about your r V. Watch some videos.
There's great YouTube tutorials on YouTube about boon docking for
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the first time, mistakes, for the first time issues that
they run into. And I think it's really an important
thing to do your research before you just go halfway
across the country to think you can boon dock anywhere
and everywhere, because finding these places are not easy. They're
not close to things, they're not going to be in
your national parks, their normal not around your national parks.
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But sometimes you know you can get away with it
for the night, but you know you have to be
very careful because you do not want to disturb the wildlife.
The reason, the main reason why boondocking is not allowed
in national parks is because people will run their generators
or their vehicles all night. Well, that changes the ecosystem,
the wildlife's behavior, the whole entire shebang of what that
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national park is about, and it's about preserving and protecting
those animals and wildlife. So when people are boondocking in
national parks and the large numbers, it's not safe for
that environment. So that's boon docking with Brad. That's one
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of the hardest episodes to really talk about because there's
so many different situations with boondocking. And if you have questions,
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