Patriots Unfiltered 5/18: Settings Expectations for 2023 Patriots, What to Expect from Rookie Class, Charting the Depth

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
The world's a Bigetanks.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
It's Taylor Swift Week here.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
If your daughter is not going, she's feeling pretty bad
about it. You don't love her, you didn't get her tickets.
You're a bad bad.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
I know you used to blow off, like editing the
paper to go?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Was pink Floyd Ashley?

Speaker 5 (00:33):
No, it was the Eagles at Fenway, wasn't it?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
No, take it easy?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, it was sting.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
It was this police. It was the police at Fenway.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
That right there encapsulated Paul relationship. The last place it
was a police. Alex says a lot of times she's
from music concert and she's bummed that it's over.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
She's like, she wants more. She's hopped up on drugs.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I don't do drugs. Remember Anita Bryant, she was like
the Orange the lady for Tropicana Orange Juice.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
I like you, thanks for ruining our holiday.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, specialization, I believe me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
This is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Dunky.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
All Right, welcome to Patriots unfiltered. It is Swift Day,
Swift Day. I was gonna I was coming up with
something Taylor Thursday, but uh, that'll work. It's Thursday here
at Jillette Stadium, and Taylor Swift is taking over Jillett's
Stadium three shows Tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 7 (01:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
They've got a merchandise truck here that I mean, she's
got more people here than some other sports teams get
for a game. I won't say who, but yeah, so
it is. It's unbelievable. We're here to talk about Patriots,
and we're going to talk about Patriots and maybe some
other things that After all, it is Thursday in the

(01:52):
middle of May. So but it's Deuce, it's Paul, it's me.
No toamarraw Alex is busy doing Taylor Swift things.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Sure she's gonna get in trouble, I think, but yeah,
we Evan is covering the interviews, so we're gonna hear
from from Joshua and Calvin Anderson today, So he'll be
in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
He'll be in a little later. Okay, good, So what
do we got? What do we got going?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Oh? Football wise, not not the whole heck of a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I was.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I was gonna say I Bradley cracked me up with
the Christian Gonzalez tweet, which really highly performed. It was
literally just Christian Gonzalez like.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
I'm at a complete loss for where Andy had something
about it. I totally like, I just don't understand. So
back and you had a funny little response.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
So social media posted about a fifteen second I mean
even that. It was like five second clip of Christian
Gonzales at practice in shorts, just making some cuts and
it's out performing our schedule release video, which okay, so
I'm gonna look at a glass half full. The interest
in the team is still there.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, I'll take it. I'll take it. Well, that's why
I asked, because I'm like, well, why would you get
worked up about this when I mean, you have like
a seven minute video which takes a lot more to
commitment like a five second thing, like, well, of course
that's going to happen, you know, I mean I know
that this is gone above and you know the people
are upset that it's just jokingly okay, you know that. Oh,
but you know somebody sits for a six minute schedule

(03:19):
release film and then comes across it. Yeah, and there
he is. Then.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Okay, you know that's a big difference. Just get that
scrolling through. You didn't even stop them.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
All you had to do was glance at it. And
that counts as a view.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Right, right. But he's so strikingly athletic, you know, it
just catches yourriking. He's a d one athlete. He should be.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Thank you for.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I don't know. He moves different to me, he moves,
I mean different than I think he's. I think he's.
I think he's a special athlete. I do. I mean,
even for an NFL player, I think he moves. You know,
look and this is just the guy running in shorts,
and but I think that's what you've done.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Between the undrafted rookies playing cornerback in the first round pick.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I still think even for a first round pick, I
think he's he moves special for okay, for anybody. I mean,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
That's I was pretty excited about the idea of drafting
him that, which is why I picked it as my
sort of dream scenario, because I didn't think he'd be
around at fourteen and obviously eventually seventeen. But yeah, I
was pretty he's pretty understanding that he was pretty athletic.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Usually we at least wait, you know, for the bromance,
for when we get to actually see the OTA practices. Now, Michael,
now we're developing crushes in five second videos, So that's
a new that's a new high.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Hey, we'll take it, man, we need it. We need it, Like,
let's go, let's get some hype going for this kid.
But yeah, I'm excited to see him out there. Next
wee week from today will be the first one. So yeah,
we'll see.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's going to be exciting to actually get to see
it and live. And oh he's using this guy in
this position, which made say, but you know, it'll be
fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
For a minute.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, for a minute.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
So you know what happened Peggy back Like you get
out there, you're like, all right, all right, and then
it's all right, they're stretching.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Well that's right.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Then it's like, okay, I can't wait to get the
mini camp.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
That's what I meant.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I wasn't but I was looking ahead, you know that
you don't even have in the.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Moment in training camp. That's how I would feel like
the OTAs are tough, because those are all the same.
You know, with no pads, you don't really see anything
but training camp. When the pads come on, which is whatever, day, three, four, five,
whatever it is, now, I always have that feeling like, oh,
you know, now we'll get to see what, you know,
watch the offensive defensive line a little bit. Well, what

(05:36):
maybe a goal line drill and they might as well.
And then like the third day of that, you're like, okay,
well even set.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah. But the thing is nowadays, even even though they
have pads on, it's still like they're not really hitting.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, you know, now you're right for it. There's been
even even in the Belichick era, there's a lot less
physicality I think now in camp.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I mean, do we ever really see the goal line?
I felt like that while all summer last year, I
don't think they had anything like wondering they had some
passing because there was a ton of they have when
they had the joint press. You don't know.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
But you know, Mike, we usually start training camp with
red zone.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, we do it, we do, we do it.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I'm speaking of Belichick.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
He was at the Garden last last night, Stevens doing
some some za. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, so that wasn't good. Well, not, so that wasn't good.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
I did see someone on Twitter and I wish I
could remember who it was, just credit, Like, do you
think that Bill just looks at that and says, I'm
I don't really coach basketball, but but the other team's
on like a forty to nothing worn might want to
call a time out at some point.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Do you think Bill just looked at at Brad Stevens
and said that.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
What do we do?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
You let him do this?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Like listen, I I feel for Joe Mozzarella, but you.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Know that's that's I've been in the middle of my
sensitivity training. I'm not I'm not sure that's okay, Okay, Joe.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Mausa, Joezuzu.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
But even if they win the championship, I think they
need a better coach for these guys. I think that
they're doing the play more. I think they're doing the
players at the service.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, you know, and you know what I mean. We
don't have to devolve into Celtics here, especially for Minor
doesn't even understand basketball. But I think in addition to
his tactical shortcomings, which I think are debatable, I mean,
you could make an argument, you know, especially in the
analytics era. You know, well timeouts don't actually have all
that stuff. I'm not even talking about what he does

(07:28):
x's and o's wise, I think he creates strife, like
artificial problems. He creates with his adversarial relationship with the media,
which half the time is his comments are meant to
defend himself and make poke fun at the media, but
not even understanding that he's kind of throwing his players

(07:50):
sometimes under the bus. And I think that there's there's
there's a conflict there. Like last night, and just to
let everybody know, anybody that doesn't maybe pay attention to
the Celtics the way we do. They had a disastrous
third quarter and all, you know, like a lot of
the questions were about, you know, you know, were you
prepared for that run? Did you make any adjustments?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Did you know?

Speaker 5 (08:13):
And Joe Missoula just kept saying over and over again,
we were prepared, we were prepared, We prepared for this.
We came out with the same intensity. It was a
bad we had a bad quarter and we let go
of the rope in the third quarter. And I think
that in trying to defend himself, like, don't put this
on me, we were ready for this. We knew what
they were going to do, and we were ready for it.
We were prepared. Don't blame the coach. He's basically blaming

(08:37):
the players for saying they didn't do what I told
him to do for all three quarters. They stopped doing
it in the third quarter. And I think that creates
the situations where you hear the players, like Marcus Smart
last week say you know, they've been killing Joe Miszoula,
and rightly so, he said that last week.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Did you hear that comment?

Speaker 5 (08:55):
He actually said that. I heard that, and I think
there's this conflict between the players and the coach that's
just not healthy.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
No, he's he's very defensive, and rightfully so. No, But
you know, it's it's just not a good situation.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
And I would agree with that too, Friends, I understand
why he's defensive.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah. Do you ever connect preparation though in any sport,
to end of game performance, Like I don't really like.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Fourth quarter was fine, The damage was done on the
third quarter, you know, But.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
But quate preparation with situations. Here's a situation that we
prepared for. But when you have a forty six point.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Quarter room, you went into the locker room.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
That's that's more than a situation.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Correct, you went into the locker room, you came out,
should have been understanding that there's gonna be something different
than what happened earlier.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
They're gonna make They were not ready for it. Yeah,
you know, like I'm all for, like, Okay, we were
doing something right to end the half. Keep doing it
until they show us that we can anymore. But once
they show that, okay, have a plan for expecting them
them to make adjustments so that you can. And he
didn't do that, and you know they were on. If
they had done the same thing at every quarter, the

(10:03):
Celtics would have given up one hundred and eighty points.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
He can't have that.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
And on top of all that, they didn't play great
defense at all during the game because Miami can't score.
Miami's typical playoff wins are like one O two to
ninety six. And all of a sudden, they had fifty
seven points at the half. Yeah, And I was like,
all it's gonna take is five good minutes of defense
and this game's gonna be over. Yeah, And instead, it's

(10:26):
what Fred said. They came out and looked like like
the early eighties Denver Nuggets going up and down the court,
scoring one hundred and sixty points. It was amazing, like
how easy it was for Miami to score in the
third quarter anyway, And I was already and I told
Alex this read. I was all ready to say Marcus Smart.
For one night, I gotta say, I have nothing to

(10:48):
complain about the first half for Marcus SMARTT was as
good as you could play as a point guard. He's
like past making these passes. He's under control, he's not
injecting himself into the offense. And the third quarter comes around,
he decides, I gotta get mine now. It's miss, miss turnover,
miss free throw, miss three. And I think he made

(11:08):
one shot in that run. But I have to say
he became Marcus Smart than the third quarter.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
My limited Celtics watching, Like when, because I flipped the
game on for a little bit last night, did you
really like, yeah, yea end of the first half. I
watched probably a half hour, so but oh.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
You probably saw the best. That's the best the Celtics play.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I thought it looked pretty good. I was like, I'll
go to bed. I assume it all went to plan.
But everything you say and like just your whole point
of view on Marcus smart like it always seeps into
my mind of like, and I know exactly what.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
I have no complaints about him in the first half
last night, I got to say that I have to
be upfront about that.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
But you're consistent. I know what you don't like about him,
and it's you know, you start in the ten to
the third quarter. If he did it do if he
was to do your job, guy, don't try to do
too much. He'd be amazing. When he tries to do
too much, he tries to think he's the man. Then
it becomes too much, and.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
It would be like if if Matthew Slater decided that
he was gonna demand like fifty catches a season, Right,
That's what Marcus tries to do every once in a
while too often.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Your all, yeah, all right, that's Celtics eight five five,
Pats five hundred is the ace ticket hutline web radio
at Patriots dot com is the email address. So I
know Mac is going to Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Yeah I heard, yeah, okay, so he'll be going that's good.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
How do we hear these things?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Oh, we we find out you have some moles.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
We find out well.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
I would assume Sophie's a fan because she says she's
an influencer.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm sure he's not the only Patriot that'll be at
the at the concert.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
No or Patriots staff member. I think there's a lot
of us. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
They had an employee sale months ago, and the whole
building shut down when the tickets went on sale. Everyone's
at that computer, like, you know, banging away trying to
get tickets.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
It was. It was pretty wild. Yeah, we'll be there. Unfortunately,
it seems like the weather's gonna be a little rainy
Saturday and Sunday, so we're supposed to go Saturday, so
we'll see how that'll come. I'm so glad I'm not going.
I kind of right now.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
I'm happy.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I'm not even somebody wants to and make me an
offer on two like, I don't even Like if if
Monday they said this was the most amazing concert I've
ever seen, I'd be like, great, and I wouldn't be
I'd be bad at all.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I'd be happy about that because I got a lot
of people tickets for it, and I'd be happy that
they all enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, but I'm just like, no matter what happens, I'm
okay with having not been there. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
And that's what Like Lanne looked at me last night
and she was like, do you think we're gonna stay
for the whole thing?

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Like that's where we're going right now, like like Alex
was talking to talk, but it's like a four hour
set that like forty four songs, Like, yeah, I don't
know if I would mean you know me, I don't.
I'm not a big concert guy, but I don't know
if i'd want to see you Earth Winning Fire for
forty four songs?

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well do they have forty four?

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Of course they do.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Okay, what if they just play September over and over again? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, listen, that's not my favorite. No, it's like back
in the day, if it was a band that I
was really into, i'd appreciate the effort.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
You know, Yeah, I I you know, I always you
do want to see that.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I want to see as much, you know, as long
as it's not like, oh, here's my new album I'm
working on.

Speaker 9 (14:07):
That.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
No one's interesting, right is he play the hits?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Keep going, keep going?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, you're probably I think, like I look back. I
like my dream with you if you could go back
in time to see like led Zeppelin at the height
of their you know, awesomeness in the mid seventies that
you know, like Boston Garden or Addison Square Guard. You know, like,
if I could go back and see one concert like
that would be what it is now. I assume now
this is what this generation is all going to. Oh
we could have just gone back to see Taylor Swift

(14:33):
on the Erastor. I mean, oh, it's so sad though
that it has to be so core. What's the best?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Is that the best concert you ever saw?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I never saw. I never saw that. He said, if
you could, but if I could go to one, that
would have been.

Speaker 10 (14:45):
But what it was?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, but best concert, best best concert experience I ever had.
It was in Florida at the Tangerine Bowl. I don't
even know there anymore.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
That's I think it's the old it was.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
The opening act was Van Halen and they opened for
the Rolling Stones and it was it.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Was the best. This is like eighty two, why you're
still yeah? Start me up albums? That Stones that's good
and Halen.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
They had the strain that the Jagger got on and
it you know, brought them out over the stadium and
in between the bands, in between the acts, there was
the biggest garbage war you've ever seen. Like the people
in the stands thrown garbage at the people at the
on the field and thrown it.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
It was like.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
You know, something out of like.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
You know, a war movie. You know.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh, it was so fun.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
It was so fun. That was Hale and Rolling Stones, though,
I mean that's David.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was actually a band before Van Halen that I
think was a good band, but I forget who they were,
but it was, you know, David Lee Raw it was
you know, yeah, yeah, it was great.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I mean I haven't seen a ton of co Ones,
but one Lane always talks about she saw Rage against
the Machine and Pearl Jam at like a small place
before either one was big and Raging against the threw
like demo tapes out and so she has like still
has this like Rage against the Machine demo tape that
I've talked to Hardy about it. He's a big, like
a music I a cassette tape and they had gone
through and taped a match to you know, it's very them.

(16:12):
But but to see Pearl Jam too, and you know,
a small place like that before it had even you know,
taken off for them. That was That was a cool one.
But I saw a few concerts in LA, like the
Greek Theater is awesome, Like I just love the venue.
You're outside, you're kind of up in the hills and yeah,
I saw White Stripes there a couple of bands that were,
you know, cool spot.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I saw B fifty two's and a little club before
they were Big Rocks. That was awesome. And I was
sitting on the floor just in front of them, just
and this woman just literally sat on my head. She
thought I was sorry the concert, Yeah she was so
I don't know, I don't know what what she was on,
but she thought I was your hair. She thought I

(16:52):
was a chair and sat.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
On my head. You do run into some of those
crazy concert folk. I remember being at a show for
Toad the Wet Spock of the House of Blues and
some like Mega Girl, old fan of Total Works like
ran up to me said can you believe we're here?
And I'm like, I'm not that big of a fan,
like I'm just here. You know, you always the crazy
fans are always out there, so happy to be there.
And you know, I feel bad, like I feel bad
now even I'm sure there are people out there dying
to go to this concert, and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's the thought of just being with you know,
seventy thousand people all matched in and everything. It just
doesn't appeal to me anymore.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I mean it used to, but not not. But
in the rain, yeah even less about like midnight.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, now I'm dying, call in, callin, make me
an offer, two tickets all right, eight five five pats
five hundred dight ticket out line. We got emails coming in,
anything else that we want to get to before we
get to the listeners.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I think we're just kind of I don't think there's
really any anything patriotsy going on. In the last couple
of days.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
To bring up, a lot of people were making fun of, well,
a lot of people, Paul's Paul were making fun of
Riley Reef yesterday for you know, talking about that what
keeps you going? And he said of ring And then
the follow up I think it was Mike, So.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Mike asked him why what keeps him going? And then
Phil Perry's why here, which I thought was way on
a character.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, and so you know, he kind of hemmed in
hot after that. I felt bad for him, you know,
but I can understand, like, you still want to win
a championship, okay, but you also have to be on
a team to win a championship. And probably the Patriots
offered him more than any other team.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
And I do think that I did hear that they
had fun with it. I don't think that they were
necessarily killing him. And Mike Felger even said, you can
sort of understand and and be sympathetic because you know
that these guys come in and all they have in
their head is Bill telling them, don't anything, you know

(18:47):
the rules, and you know they're like, well that's a
good team. Oh wait a minute, Like like you don't
want to like Kendrick Bourne flat out said, they gave
me more money than everybody else. You don't want to
be that guy. Yeah, right right, And Fred's probably right.
That probably was the biggest reason. The biggest factor is
he probably didn't have a ton We didn't have a

(19:09):
ton of options. Yeah, and you got a pretty lucrat.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
It wasn't like I was picking between Kansas City, the
Buffalo and the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Like this is the Riley Reef bitting War.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
I doubt team. You know, we're interested in them, Listen.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I just I want a guy who wants to win
a championship, and that's why he's going to keep playing
hopefully until he But.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
I think he got to the reason, Yeah I follow,
I know, which was he just wants to keep just
want to keep playing it, just like the passion.

Speaker 11 (19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
So see if it lasts into August.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, no, you know you can't win. If you can't win, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
They'll get you. Yeah, guy, I'm curious if from from
Calvin Anderson today. Kind of an interesting story where he
was here in twenty nineteen and played a couple of
years in Denver and now was back.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
So yeah, yeah, I'll give you a little back, a
little behind the scenes stuff. We there's a guy to him,
Andre Norman. Look him up. He's like a motivational speaker,
spent time in jail, came out and one of those
guys who completely turned his life around, and you know,
really he's just this amazing inspirational.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Type of guy.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
And we sat him down with five players individual you know,
extended talks with him and we're going to release those
as five separate podcasts down the road, just something to
look forward to, you know, in the meantime, if you
want to look up who Andre Norman is, do that.

(20:36):
But our players opened up with him like we've never heard.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Before, like all personal stuff, real personal stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah it's not football, it's their life, so you know,
something to look forward to.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, yeah, what kind of like air? I mean, is
it about kind of just getting your life on track.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Each player had a different kind of theme. It's what
was important to him. So you know, Bentley was there
talking about you know, growing up not really having a home. Uh,
you know, a Slater was there talking about his faith
but you know, really getting in depth about it. Devin
mccordy was another guy. So we had five different players
sit with him for five separate discussions. And I think

(21:17):
it's gonna be really worth a listen. You're gonna hear
from these guys like you've never heard from them before.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, as people, as people behind the scenes. Yeah, like
you know what they're really about. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
And we did drop the first part of the Scott
Pioli oh yeah, Pats from Pats from the Past.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, so no socks and Paul sat down with Scott Paoli.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
For how long it was long? Yeah, it was like
twice the size of twice.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Eighty five minutes, so usually are about forty forty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And it was in person.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
He was here, Yeah, and he he was good. I
thought he had some interesting perspective. And it wasn't like
normally when we talked to the guys, you know, there's
a lot of you know, we get into what they're
doing and what they've been up to and some of
their memories, and then we sort of talk about some
of their favorite memories, you know, their favorite team or
their favorite you know, favorite teammates, and then you know,

(22:08):
toughest guys to go against those kinds of questions. But
with Scott it was a little different in that he
sort of talked about the mentality that they had and
just sort of how much pressure mounted with the winning.
He actually said the two thousand and seven season was
not enjoyable in any way. M like and he said,

(22:30):
and this was before the one you know, joined the eighteen.
It was just such a grind. The way he talked
about it, unbelievable reverence for the three to four combination
was really really talked a lot about just how good
the players were and how he doesn't think even now
other players get as much respect and do as they should.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Have those players.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, yeah, and he talked a lot about you know
him and Bill and know this. You don't give it away.
It's a great dynamic. No, just giving you the bullet point. Fred,
it's ninety minutes. I couldn't give it away if I
wanted to.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Did he have any insight onto your baseball career?

Speaker 5 (23:09):
We actually started with that.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, Paul gave up how many home runs to him?

Speaker 5 (23:15):
No, I'm only kidding, only not to him, but what
with him in attendance. Yeah, one legendary home run that
may still be going.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Pioli used to call Paul longball Paul.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Correct in front of the entire I mean, I've told
this story.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Paul told me that when I first started working here,
and then like two weeks later, Poli's there and confirming
the whole story. I'm not that I didn't believe Paul,
but you know, it's just funny. All of a sudden,
there's Pioli being like longball Paul.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
There he is, so that'll be good. That's part of
the Pats from the Past podcast.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Excited. That's what number forty.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Two or something like that that we've done.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, that's an intriguing one for me. I'm excited to
listen to it.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
It's different, it's a little different. It is, like I said,
it is long, so it probably want to do it
in a couple of different sittings.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I mean, I felt like the seven season was exhausted,
Like I mean, it's obvious that he puts it into
words like that, but it's just you could tell. I
mean by the time they got to the end, I
mean you could see it in early December, it was
like things were just kind of I don't want to
talk about it's.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
A lot about it in just if like if you're
looking for a trip down memory lane from those teams,
this isn't the podcast for you. This is more like
sort of the relationships and the personalities involved in a
lot of complicated stuff, you know, because obviously the way
he came here, in the circumstances, and people know that
Bill Parcells is his father in law, and you know
how he ended up, you know, sort of reconciling that

(24:30):
to to to join Bill Belichick. He talks a lot
about both Bills it's it's it's definitely worth a listening.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
And he left after eight or oh seven, I think
it was after he.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Went he went the same year the Castle went to
Kansas City, right, that was, Oh, Nina, did he go.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
With He went to Kansas City too? Right?

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, and then he went to Downstown, Atlanta, Atlanta, right, sorry, yeah,
I'll never forget that. When he got hired in Atlanta,
they did a video. It was like he and Dimatrof
in the car and it's their first, you know, encounter.
So Demitruff you know, I guess, I don't know, could
have been staged, but Demitruff picks him up at the airport.

(25:08):
He gets in, they start talking and the first thing
Peoli says is We've got a lot of work to
do here. And I'm thinking to myself, Demititruf's thinking like,
who are you telling me that we have a lot
of work to do here? You know, I just thought
that was kind of weird.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
And then that was it. Now is he enjoying last question?

Speaker 5 (25:25):
I think he'd happy to be the you know, I
think he does enjoy his role. I think that, you know,
he talks a little bit about that too, like how
when NFL Network approached him to do some of this stuff,
what his reactions were and things like that. So it covers, obviously,
with that amount of time, it covers a lot. And
that's why Matt Morell did a great job of just
sort of breaking it up a little bit so you

(25:46):
don't have to invest your It's not like you have
sensitivity training and you need to devote a whole month
to watching the videos.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
A good job, Matt. All right, let's get to some
of these phone calls. At eight five to five pats
five hundred, Melvin in Tennessee, what's up?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Melvin?

Speaker 12 (26:03):
I was going on, Hey, I don't have nothing today,
but that two questions. Number one, do you feel like
the Jalen Brown could be more of a number two option?
That do you feel like just he should just stick
of that role kind of being the rolin or if
you've seen things forge.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Well, I think he wants to be a number one option, right, Yeah,
I think he's going to leave but when he can.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
If he doesn't get a better handle on the ball, though,
it's going to limit his ability. He just he just
he just throws the ball or hits his knee or
he's just too loose with the ball, too loose with
the ball.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
But I think he could be the number one on
a good team. I don't think he could be the
number one on a great team.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
Yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I like Jen as a.

Speaker 12 (26:49):
Player, Yeah, me too. I think he's a good player.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
He just I don't know.

Speaker 12 (26:52):
I thought he can be kind of streaky at times. Yeah,
I really like him as a player. They both can
do that, but my more so prayer. I'm entering your answer.
But when you go when you go back and watch
things like john Wick and Creed or stuff like that,
do you have to rewatch the previous ones? Because my
brain's not that sharp, so I I.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know, for I've never seen Creed so but with
john Wick I didn't have to, you know. I just
saw john Wick four. By the way, I was literally
the only person in the theater. I had the whole
theater to myself. I've never had that experience.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
It was great.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
You had what you were like single, like literally one
in the middle of.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
A three thirty mattinee at the Alex Theater.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
No I call it the Alex.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
It's a little uh movie theater in Sandwich, mass The
only person in that show I had the whole play
a little disappointed. I really liked the john Wick series,
but this fourth one I thought there wasn't a lot
of thought.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Put to it.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
I thought, like the explosions, the action scenes were amazed,
but like you know, there wasn't a lot of.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I haven't seen the most recent Creed. I saw the others,
and I don't think that you necessarily need to watch
them chronologically.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Usually fine, you know, the way the story the movie
makers make it, they make it so that, like if
you haven't seen all of them, you're not going to
be totally lost.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
It certainly helps to see them in order.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, but you know, I don't know, why do you ask, Melvin.

Speaker 12 (28:27):
I just I'm going to see john Wick for today,
but I have to rewatched the other one, and I
saw the recent Creed. I have to rewatch everything just
because I don't remember things that in details. I have
to rewatch be fresh on my brain.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
That's cool, box, All right, thanks Melvin.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Let's get to Shane in New Hampshire. What's up Shane?

Speaker 13 (28:51):
Hey, guys, first time, long times. Just wanted to call
in today. Just can't say that I feel like that
might be the only optimist face in here. I think
with the additions on the defense, we're gonna be able
to switch to a four to three, have those faster,
speedier guys. Sorry, I was just climbing up a lot

(29:12):
of stairs. Okay, yeah, spread the field. I have a
bunch of people out taking the ball off the guys.
I think, yeah, we're gonna get a lot of more
auditions on offense just based off having Bob. I mean,
how many times do you see Mac turn the wrong
way in college his first year? Like all those failings

(29:34):
in the offense, I feel like we're on the coaching
I think an upgraded coaching staff's going to help everyone tremendously.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Thanks guys, Okay, thanks listen.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
I you know a lot of people are.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Not interested in your response, Mike, you look like you
were poisoned.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Ready.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
A lot of people are very optimistic about that front seven.
You know, I'm not even mentioning Christian Gonzales because but
if bar More can live up to his potential and
this guy that they rafted this year, Keon white At,
you know, you add those to the mix, they could
have a really good front seven, you know, and that

(30:10):
might just keep them in games. Who knows it might
help against these mobile quarterbacks that have killed them in
the past. You know, maybe it's the difference between winning
and losing that Ravens game.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I don't know, Yeah, I mean I think they have to,
you know, I think that's the big part of it.
I Mean, I was for some reason just looking back
at the Super Bowl and it's, you know, you just
you need a team that can close games out. I think,
you know, everybody's gonna score these days. Like, I don't
think that there's really like, you know, to expect like
what we got from the early twenty nineteen team where
it's like they're only gonna give up fourteen points a game, Like,
I just don't think that's realistic anymore. And it's, you know,

(30:42):
more about can you just get that last stop, you know,
and do you have the pieces that can you know,
right at the end of the game make those big plays.
And I think that's what they were, you know, missing
a little bit last year. But I don't know, I'm
curious about the mccordy of it all too, and just
how does that absence play into you know, not just
the deep ball and the threat of the big plays
that I felt like he always kind of But you know,
is everybody on the same page, are they Are they

(31:05):
blowing coverages? You know, are guys just kind of freelancing
and doing their own thing. That's that's a question for
me without him on the back.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Yeah, And I agree with Mike in the way he
put it, Like I look at Philadelphia last year and
I thought Philadelphia's team was really balanced. I thought they
were very good on both sides of the ball, and
I think their front seven on defense is outstanding. And
I think during the balance of the season they played
at that level they were outstanding. Again, when push comes

(31:32):
to shove and you're in against those teams and you're
playing Kansas City, you're going to be hard pressed to
keep him under thirty. Yeah, And I just think that
if you don't have an offense. Now they had an
offense that could keep up. And it was a really
good Super Bowl that could have gone either way. What
was it final, like thirty eight thirty five something like that.
You know, that's I think that's the kind of game
that you need to win against that caliber of opponent.

(31:54):
They can hold plenty of teams to fourteen points.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
The Patriots, I.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Know they can. I've seen it the last several years.
I've seen them, you know, do it to Cleveland and
and and teams like that in the Jets in the past.
Now that I think the Jets will be different now
and I agree with Mike. I think more often than
not in those big games, you got to find a
way to score. I do think the offense will be better,
like Shane said with Bill O'Brien, but we'll have to

(32:19):
see how much better.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, not bad enough, like to still feel like I
feel like the defense needs to really, you know, carry it.
Not to say that he has to carry the team,
but they gotta. They got to continue with the takeaways
and those things that have really powered them, you know
over the last few years.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Let's go to uh, Chris with a T I A
and in Boston he heard us talking about movies, so
he had a call right.

Speaker 14 (32:41):
Of absolutely right in my wheelhouse. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm
glad you went to see John Wick for I'm kind
of debating on whether or not there.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, it sounds like.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
I guess I can wait.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Well, you could rap out a theater by yourself, like
I think they I think you can you can buy
it on demand or I don't know if Yeah, but
it's going to be soon.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
If you don't want to go to the theater, I
mean I would go see it. If you've if you've
seen them all, you got to go see it.

Speaker 14 (33:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, all right, yea, I love them
all so.

Speaker 7 (33:11):
Well?

Speaker 14 (33:12):
Did he did? He only do the whole interview with
his chest out?

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Yeah that was an andyism, but yes, yes, now he
he seemed like he had a great time. He sent
me a text this morning because he saw that we
we had dropped the first part of the of the podcast.
So yeah, he seemed like he had a really good time.
And I hope hopefully we can get him around uh
in the future for something if we need him.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 14 (33:36):
I'm looking forward to hearing that. I had a question
about Jalen Mills and what you guys thoughts were about
him playing safety and might have just brought up the
absence of mc cordy. You think Mills will be able
to fill that spot with a couple of years in
the system now or is it going to be somebody else?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
I think you will play safe.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I don't know both. I think they might try him there.
I don't know. I don't know if I really have
confidence in that whole situation. I don't, you know. I,
like I said, I think it's going to be not
just Mills, but I think Jonathan Jones is going to
be kind of part of that free safety makes and
I think Myles Bryant is probably you know, going to
be part of it.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I just I am having trouble seeing like all right,
and now Jalen Mills is just our free safety full time,
Like I don't know, It's just I have to see
it out there, like all right. He seems like they're
every down, he's getting guys lined up, he's back there
making the calls and stuff like I have to see it.
I don't know. I don't think it's gonna be handed
it to him, for sure.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
I think you're right.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I think that.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
And I've talked about McCody a lot over the years,
and I don't necessarily think his value was strictly as
a player, you know, I think he's a good free safety,
but I think his value is that you very rarely
see the Patriots completely out of position, and I think
he's a big part of that.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, Williams and Felim. What's up william Oh? Shoot, hello,
all right, yeah, we interrupt something.

Speaker 15 (34:58):
No, I'm gonna make yall personal. Write button on your phone.

Speaker 16 (35:01):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
How y'all doing first long but doing good?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Very good?

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 15 (35:09):
I listened to y'all Tuesday, and I wish Evan was
being though because I would get on him a little bit.
But I'm gonna let him.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
Be, okay.

Speaker 15 (35:19):
So no, okay, I just want to talk with just
a little bit about the malite Cunningham situation. Look, I'm
not saying that he's Lamar Jackson, but you can see
a little feature in him in terms of him being
mobile than him and seeping up and seeping out, the
poking and stuff. So I mean, I think that's what
Picture is saying.

Speaker 12 (35:37):
To a little bit hyper about that.

Speaker 7 (35:38):
But you know that that we ain't had.

Speaker 15 (35:40):
Nothing like that, like that younger version. Oh. I don't
want to say Cam Newton. I don't want to say
that because he's undrafted, you know, I don't want to
go there and nowhere near that level.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
But I mean.

Speaker 12 (35:51):
I see, I just see it a little bit there.

Speaker 15 (35:53):
And he he can do things that Mac and Billy
Danky Tanton.

Speaker 12 (35:59):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah, I agree with it will be a.

Speaker 12 (36:02):
Hype about for guy.

Speaker 7 (36:03):
I mean, you know that's it.

Speaker 15 (36:05):
I'm not saying he's Lamar Jens. I would never even
go to his carero, but certain things. Twenty is twenty
forty one season. He had a little bit of grips
to something. So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna cast
them off. But look at we had jac Jackson undrafted,
we have Jakobe Myers undrafted. I'm not saying that is
gonna be something, but hey man Bill saw something in him.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
No, so yeah, no, listen, who knows, no one, who knows?
Who am I to say? You know, knowing this person
has no shot at doing it?

Speaker 4 (36:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
I don't think anybody says but no shot of doing it.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
But I mean, you know, thirty two teams decided not
to draft him, right, Yeah, But I don't think anybody
says he has no shot to do him.

Speaker 15 (36:51):
No.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I think some people are really poo pooing.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
He has an elite skill set. He can run, Yeah,
he can't pass something.

Speaker 15 (37:01):
That's just crazy about my last take and I have
one more taking that shit I am so worried about
this schedule and it's rough. I mean its Dogrea and
Mann talked about it. You know, what's his name, Greg
Barnard and Phil I mean, I don't.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Know when you're worried about your offense. Every schedule is
tough in the NFL, you know, like I back in
twenty fourteen or two thousand and seven, I don't know
if this would be a tough that tough schedule, but
now it is. You know, the Patriots have no gimmeis
no pencils in wins anymore? Thanks William.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah, I find myself wondering that sometimes of like what
if this was the seven preseason, Like how would I
look at this schedule, you know, just just for a
little thought game. You know, it's definitely different different, But
I was I was just saying, Cunningham, I don't think
I've been here for four quarterbacks before, and I just
I'm curious how that gets divided up? Does the fourth
guy get reps? Like, you know, I don't talking about camp.

(38:01):
My guess is you won't have fourign camp. That'd be
my guess, but we'll see by the time training camp
comes around. My guess is that Trace mcsoley will be gone.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Brady was here for four quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Yeah, yes, yeah, I just but there have been time
like uh, I'll give you some some deep cuts, you know,
like the Todd Mortenson era, like they they they may
have had times where they actually had four quarterbacks in
uniform on on the practice field, even in training camp.

(38:34):
My guess is you won't see that now. Maybe because
Cunningham's skill set is so different, they might work with
the other three. But I think if you have any
designs to to develop him, you need to let him
get some reps.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
I think they come up with a Marcus Jones, Malie Cunningham,
Tyreek Thornton, and one other package Douglas.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Lot of speed.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Douglas is supposed to be just like Marcus Jones.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
I can you question Paul And I'm not I'm not
doing this to to to trigger you, no, but I'm
really I'm genuinely cursed because a lot of people made
a big deal out about how much money they gave
Molie Cunningham. And I know that you're usually kind of
on that, but do you, I mean, do you put
anything into that at all? Of that It's it's just
a number or how did they end up there? You know,
I think was there some kind of competition for him?

(39:20):
My guess is there was some competition for him.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yeah, yeah, I heard he was the highest, you know,
the most sought after undrafted person.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Yeah, But I don't necessarily think that translates to anything afterwards.
And it's certainly not money that prohibits you from cutting him.
Let's say that. Yeah, let's say you bring him in
and you're like, this kid can't succeed, you know, isn't it.
They'll cut him, you know, And it's a couple of
hundred thousand dollars. We're not talking about full million in
guaranteed money that Oh yeah, I guess think about that one.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
I guess the disconnect is that a lot of fans
look at it that when they give an undrafted guy
a lot of money, they like the guy and they
really wanted him badly and they wanted you know, and
so I mean, maybe that's.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
A little bit true, but I undrafted free agents or
you know, and it's funny that it's like Bill always says,
every guy is different, there's always case by case. But
I think sometimes we all and I say, we all
not fans I say we in the media, the fans, everybody,
sometimes we miss some of these details. With undrafted free agents,

(40:23):
they're in a pretty advantageous position sometimes because they can
turn down teams like the Patriots. To me, were a
good choice because it's kind of an unsettled quarterback situation.
So if I go there, I can I can win
a roster spot if I play, if I'm good enough,

(40:44):
if I'm as good as I think I am, if
I'm only Cunningham, the Patriots are a place I go.
I don't want to go to a place necessarily, like
you know, maybe.

Speaker 13 (40:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
Who's the best, you know, like maybe even Jacksonville or Cincinnati,
because they have a young, established guy who's going to
be the guy there for ten years, you know what
I mean. Even if it works for me there, I'm
gonna be blocked and I'm gonna have to go somewhere
else to learn another system. I think Malie Cunningham can say, yeah, well,

(41:23):
they want me, and they want me, and they want me,
you know, they want me right, So that's gonna up
my price. And I think as a quarterback with that
skill set, I'm not surprised to see that some teams
want now. He's small, He's like five to eleven, and
to me, the thing that people are missing Like they
both played at Louisville, Lamar Jackson and I like Malie Cunningham.

(41:45):
By the way, we talked about this a little bit
on Tuesday. I can't wait for the preseason games. You know,
I'll be in my Bob's Discount Furniture studios having a
much better time talking about Malie Cunningham playing in the
second half. No disrespect, I say it every time, love
you mean it, Brian then watching Brian Hoyer play in
the preseason games. Right, But this is a guy who's
gonna go out there. It's gonna be schoolyards sometimes, it's

(42:06):
gonna run around, and we're gonna see him learn. I'm
gonna see how much he can soak in. But there's
no comparison between the college career of Lamar Jackson at
Louisville and MALIEK. Cunningham at Louisville. Lamar Jackson was he
won the Heisman Trophy and probably could have won another one,
like as the best player in college football first round

(42:27):
draft pick, like all the same questions about does he
have to change positions that we were talking about Willie Cunningham,
but he went in the first round. You know what
I mean, Like, I don't think it's I don't think
it's even really close in terms of skill.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Sell one from Monterey, Mexico says, Fred, I completely disagree
with your review of John wick Ford gives a good
arc to John, but to each his own love the
show induced cash in on those Swift tickets. You'll be
able to get a house on Fred's in Fred's rich neighborhood.

Speaker 17 (43:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
I think we're gonna go, but I'll report back.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I think you're gonna go.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
We're gonna go.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I think you're gonna know.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
I'm I have to go. I'm more looking forward to
you're committed to my hanging out with my sister and
brother in law, who haven't you know, had an event
go out kind of thing with them for a while,
So it'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Okay, Ramon and Tampa guys, I went all three nights
in Tampa to Taylor Swift, but I was truly amazed,
especially not knowing much about her. Swift in progress swiftly
in progress now, but her performance is three hours and
fifteen minute ish. It goes by quick and it's really

(43:38):
enjoyable onto football.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
If you could choose.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
One game from any sport past or hypothetical future to
share that experience where they close loved one, which game
would you like to be at, like a game where
like a particular game.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I mean, I guess that would have been cool to
be at super Bowl thirty six. I don't know, like
I don't know, Yeah, but I was as these games
we were at or that we we could be it
we could pick any game to go back to.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Yeah, and then I was interested like any sport.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, that's that's a tough one. That's a tough one.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
I mean you could go there's a lot of ways
you go with that. You could do Mike's you know,
Mike's way, not to be confused with Jersey, Michael's Oil red.
Do you go with the significant you know, the historical
significance like super Bowl thirty six that started at all,
like that's where the dynasty began, right, right? So do
you go with something like that? Do you go to
the Kansas City AFC championship game in eighteen forty, which

(44:34):
was one of cold good absolutely, yeah good, that's a
good mark. Uh Again again, as you would say like that,
to me was one of the best games they ever saw. Now,
I always say this the O six AFC Championship game
in India when they pumped the flu into the Patriots
locker room.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
That's right, shooters.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
I know they lost, but that was one of the
most amazing sporting events I've ever been at.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
It was a great game.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Yeah, I have to admit.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
So there's a lot of different ways you can you
can look at do you go historical significant? I mean
just for like the Sheer game itself, like the Patriots
come back here in a regular season game against that
about what about great?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Ali Frasier, Yeah, Oh, there's a lot of different Russia.
Oh that's the best, now, Mike did it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah, that's that's one where your head explodes.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yeah. I was just I talked before about the San
Diego game in No. Six, but the week before I
was actually there.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Yeah, who got the goal on that with Wayne Turner.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
The thing is, Paul was there.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
I wasn't there there. That was twelve. I could have
been there.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Let's see, l from Wisconsin. Paul is absolutely right. I
just want to say how right he is. There is
no place in Boston Sports for coach that acts like
he's never the problem, says the players didn't do things correctly.
I know what I Oh wait, you're talking about the Celtics.
Never mind.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Yeah, I don't think Bill creates strife in the I
saw where that was going right away. That was well done.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Let's see Brian and Ironand writes in hoping to meet
you all in Frankfurt at the Coats game. I'm trying
to book a hotel for the weekend, and I'm just curious.
Do you have any idea what part of the city
you'll be staying or where the fan events will be.
I'd love to meet y'all and buy you a beer
or five.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
I don't know that it yet so last time I
went international.

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Speaker 4 (46:56):
So what are we thinking? Are we thinking like maybe
a PU show at the pub?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Oh, there's no doubt. It's perfect because when it's noon here,
it's six in the evening there. So we'll take over
a pub and we'll do a series of shows at
six p m. Just when the crowd's coming in, and
it'll be here at the same time as it always is.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
Yeah, shovels in and get ready. So we are Are
we all going?

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Or is that something?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
It hasn't been the term, but that's my plan, is
to do.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
PUS over there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Yeah, and the team will be there for the entire week.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
No, I think they're not going to come until Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, it's not like a Super Bowl
week or anything crazy.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
No.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Yeah, they're not going to come for the That's I
don't know anything yet. That's what I'm hearing is they'll
just be there Thursday, you know, they'll they'll travel on Thursday,
they'll be there Friday, Saturday.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
How is this just generally for you, Fred, when you
went there just for travel, getting into the country, getting
you know, situated. Is it just kind of normal? Nothing bad?
It's not bad.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
I've never been out of the Make sure you got
your paths, you know, and you know TSA is TSA.
I mean there's like things you can do now, like
I don't know if it's called World Pass or something
like that. The things that global entry where you know
you can you know, skip the line or something like that.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
But even even without that, seven a tip for the
pregame show, the things that pop into your head.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, I didn't have that, and it wasn't terrible. It
wasn't terrible.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
You know, that's kind of fun.

Speaker 13 (48:27):
Though.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
I didn't even think of that breakfast Breakfast with PU.
I mean, what time, Oh, I guess there, it's probably
like it No, yeah, for them, it would.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Be if we were actually in Germany doing it'd be fine.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
But like, but for people here, people.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
That are listening, it's going to be a seven o'clock
start to the pregame show. Yeah, well seven fift breakfast
with Wimbledon.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Right, that's okay, let's see Alan, right Sin I grew
up he's in South Carolina, grew up loving live music
and attending concert so I ended up making a career
of it as a systems engineer, designing and deploying audio
systems for live events. I work over one hundred concerts

(49:10):
per year, and admittedly it desentitizes you. Last year I
worked on Motley Crue and def Leppard Stadium tour for
the geriatric crowd, and I never watched an entire Motley Tya.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
There's a lot of stuff that he violates, a lot.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Of that, and I never watched an entire show start
to finish. At a certain point, you get more concerned
about finding a place to hang your hammock and get
some rest before tearing it down. However, the best show
I ever saw that actually drew me out from my
hiding spot was B fifty two's opening for Boy George
and Culture Club. Going in with zero expectation, I was

(49:47):
absolutely blown away and definitely recommend seeing Boy George if
you get the chance.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Okay, Boy George is going to be at great Woods,
I think this summer. Really Yeah, there's actually a pretty
good little schedule. I mean Janet Jackson, I think is
there this weekend. But they're like twenty five dollars for
like a long seat. Dave Matthews, if you're into that
kind of thing, Paul, I know you got you went
to one and.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
To one of those concerts for the longer snipes of
my life.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Let's go back to the Ace ticket houtline eight five
five pats five hundred. Travis is in California.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Hey Travis, that's a good deep poll right there.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Travis Travis Areas, Hey, what's up.

Speaker 7 (50:34):
The Californias thing?

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Me off? Where are you from.

Speaker 7 (50:39):
Tropole Hill in North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
I don't know how you got California, California? All right?

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Anyway, Yeah, yeah, but this is there four of the
past without Brady. Correct, we're going into the year four?

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yes, yes, sir.

Speaker 7 (50:53):
So I've always been to keep Brady Ronna Mountain Sry retire,
But looking at our past years, I don't see what
the plan was without Brady. If Belichick did not want Brady,
I didn't see his plan. I don't think we're any
closer to a championship. I think we're more closer to
the number one pick. I would think like if we

(51:15):
got rid of Brady, we would look like the Eagles.
We would add all this talent. But it seems like
we're adding the same player as we did and when
we had Brady. So I just didn't understand what the
plan was.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's in a lot of ways.
I think that's a fair criticism. I do think there
wasn't necessarily something in place. I think we all would
agree that the plan capital T capital P was probably Garoppolo,
but Brady outlived the plan. Yeah, so you had to
go to Plan B. And I don't really think there
was an adequate one put in place by Belichick in

(51:50):
the organization at the time. I think that with the
part of the problem, and you might disagree with this,
Fred is I really don't think Bill looks at the
quarterback as being that essential piece that I think most
other people do.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Wow, maybe forty years ago.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
You know, No, I know how we all feel about it,
But I still think Bill thinks, yeah, yeah, Mac Jones,
I can, that's fine. Yeah, he's average, He's good enough.
I can, you know, And I don't think that the
specific Jimmy's and Joe's mattered to him.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Well, I think I think, like to me, I think
the defense is kind of maintained. I mean, you know,
they've been up and down a little bit, but for
the most part, I think you've gotten consistency. And I mean,
I think to your point, Paul, all they really wanted
is can we just get a quarterback who's gonna not
make the boneheaded decisions, do what we tell him, make
the right reads, get the ball out. We don't need
him to be Patrick Mahomes, and we can just continue
on that way, and I think that to me is

(52:46):
what seems like that's a lot.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
That's the plan, and that's what I'm saying. But I
don't think that they had necessarily a guy in mind.
That's why I said I don't think they had a
specific plan. Well, because I think he doesn't think he
needed one.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Yeah, but that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
The year before they drafted Garoppolo, they probably didn't have
a plan. But then when Garoppolo was there and they
saw the tape on him his last year, he became
the plan. But it's it's not easy to have a
plan for to suc you know, to secede the best player.

Speaker 18 (53:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
It's just I didn't have a plan, you know. Yeah,
once Garoppolo thing blew up. No, they didn't have a plan.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
But right, I think hard But I think critics would
then say, then right out Brady, Okay, they didn't have
a plan, chose to pull the plug before they needed.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yeah, I think that became an untenable situation. And well
we can get into all that. But you're right, Paul,
I mean that would have been the answer. But even then, Okay,
at some point Brady's going to be done.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
But it could have bought you sometimes it could have
brought you some time.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
You're right, all right, We're gonna take a break Paul's
Foods here.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
We'll be right back.

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It's like no, I'm good, Okay, Well all over it.

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Back here and patriots do on Phil. Speaking of car,
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Problems, what's going on?

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I was going little one way street near my house,
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one way street and it's very narrow and there was
a car park across, so you can't like really take
a wide turn. And I hit a curve like that
was hidden in weeds and blew out my tire, dented

(01:01:38):
my door. The trim comes off, like thank god, I
had the bridgestone run flat tires so I could get
to Sullivan Tire and in full circle here. Yeah, so
you know, I don't know if Matt was reading my mind,
but anyway, just got a call from them during the
break that the car.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Is ready, but it's been in the shop all week.
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It's gonna just like if it was like five hundred bucks,
I was gonna do, but it was thousands, so I
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Oh god, yeah, it's the worst. I like, there's nothing
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your battery is gonna break. You know, Today's the day
that you're gonna randomly hit a curb and have to
spend the whole day sitting there. And then they're gonna
come out and be like, yeah, the connect to Gazoint's broken.
It's gonna be four thousand dollars. Like I don't even
know what that is, but here's my four thousand dollars.
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(01:02:26):
in life than car problems.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Like, oh, car problems, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
So much. And it's just those random days, like what
is it maybe eight days throughout the course of your
life that you're randomly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Like back in the day, your horse gets sick, you
shoot it and get another horse.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Just like that. You don't have to like, you know,
get the trim, refit repair, you just get a new horse. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
But yeah, so that's uh, that's sucked. Yeah, the animal
rights people over so yeah, speaking of animal rights, Peter
writes in I had to write in with my take
on Eric. I started listening to the podcast when Eric
was away in Africa. While he was gone, Andy was

(01:03:05):
always saying that he hoped Eric would get eaten by
a lion. I couldn't believe how mean that was. But
then Eric came back and I understood right away why
Andy wanted him dead. I do have to say I
miss Eric a tiny bit. He made me laugh when
he would add good for him. When Fred would read
an email from people from certain cities, like this is
an email from.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Bob and Charlotte, Eric would follow up good for him.
It's actually not his joke, No, But I do miss
Airic a little bit. Yeah, especially in these shows where
there's not a lot of football to talk about, we
could get some impressions going, yeah, we get him going
on his welker or his gronk to the best of
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Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Guys?

Speaker 10 (01:03:55):
And I got to thank you first by letting you
know that I got my Patriots un cultured he in
the mail. Nice, appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
So you're the one I found myself.

Speaker 10 (01:04:04):
I found myself done and like the dad from a
Christmas story with the leg lamp, like as your award.

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Like.

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
I turned to my wife and I'm like, you.

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Out to like just anybody.

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And she's like, you're gonna wear that?

Speaker 10 (01:04:16):
No, it's nice, it's really nice.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Nice.

Speaker 10 (01:04:19):
But I got a football question and a off season
question specifically for Fred. The football question is related to
James Robinson. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, you guys
mentioned that his contractors deal is kind of just a
prove it deal, and you know, nothing's really guaranteed. In fact,
his roster spot's not guaranteed. And I'm just curious, you know,

(01:04:40):
with the training camp coming up running backs in general,
maybe not just James Robinson specifically, but running backs in general.
How hard is it for them to prove it in
training camp being that it's you know, such less is
so much less contact and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Yeah, I mean it's it's really knowing your assignment. You know,
they can prove themsel I was catching the ball, running
good routes, that type of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
A good question.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, and then in preseason obviously you know you can
do some things. But I think he's got a one
year deal Robinson.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
Right, So uh yeah, to me, that will come down
to Kevin Harris. Like if Kevin Harris shows that he's
made a jump in Fred's right, it's mentally yep, Like
you know, he seems to be a little bit more comfortable.
And then you you get into training camp, in the
in the preseason games, Kevin Harris had some problems holding

(01:05:32):
onto the ball last year, So does he get rid
of those those issues and that might allow you to say, well,
this kid's ready for this role and maybe we don't
have to keep the veteran in James Robinson. So I
think those are the sort of the roster battles that
that Belichick deals with. I also thought it was really interesting.
I don't know if you guys saw any of this,
but we get a lot of emails. Mike, I'm sure

(01:05:55):
you do too, from like Vegas odds on different things.
Did you see the thing they can today? Evidently Dalvin
Cook is a good candidate for a a purge in Minnesota.
They're tight against the cap. The Patriots have like the
second best odds to land Dalvin Cook, and that to
me makes no sense, Like I love Dalvin Cook as

(01:06:17):
a player, Yeah, but like the Patriots are out of
everybody in the league, Like, why why would they want
behind that? No, it's just yeah, I just think it's
one of those things that the Patriots are always up
there because the Patriots fans bet on a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Of this, right, Like I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
We'll take their money, their suckers.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Yeah. I almost would say, oh, sorry, go ahead, Yeah,
go ahead, Nate.

Speaker 10 (01:06:40):
Quick quick off season questions where I'll let you guys go.
I'm an avid fisherman and I'm always up for a
good fishing story. I follow you on the Twitter machine
and saw your Twitter picture. Yeah, is it a pretty
nice small mouth bass? I need to hear the story.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Oh, no, just a friend took me out in his
boat and we actually had a good day. I think
between the two of us we caught over forty large
and smallmouth bass.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
This is like a picture looking Yeah, this was probably.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Like six years ago. You know, it was before COVID.
I know that everything's before or after COVID, you know.
But no, this guy was like he had like a
tricked out bass boat and he would compete in tournaments
and win some and you know, cheating.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
So, uh for a couple of years he took me out.
It's hard now he's up in New Hampshire.

Speaker 17 (01:07:29):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
So we were out in one of the lakes. It
wasn't Winnipesake, it was another lake and we had a
good day. Yeah, it's fun fishing.

Speaker 10 (01:07:36):
Find yourself down Pennsylvania to take you out.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Well I did.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
I did fish in Pennsylvania. I used to do a
lot of fly fishing. And we friend him guy here.
We went down and they have these like limestone creeks
in Pennsylvania and we fished out of those.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Yeah. So that was fun. Nice, Yeah, cool, Okay, I
didn't know you're such a fisherman.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
I used to used to every year go to League
either Idaho or Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Awesome. How did you get into fives? I mean, I've
talked to my grandfather of fly fish with Ted Williams
love fly fishing. It was like his passion, but I
was I was curious to try it. How did you
get into it?

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Is it more fun like I just it's more of
a challenge. It definitely got to like make it dance.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Well, no, you have to. You have to do it
so the fly hits the you know, without a lot
of commotion like it would if it was just flying
and landed. You know, you can't be like making waves.
And you know what, there's a misconception about fly fishing.
They think it's all on top of the water floating flies.
Most in fly fishing or the fish are caught under

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the water. So you waited a little bit. You look
for where the current seams are and you try to
mimic the feeding patterns. So where the current is going
is where the bugs are going, and that's where the
fish hang out to eat, So that's where you look for.
You look for like behind rock so or little pools
where the current is taking all the food and that's
where you fish. It, so you you really have to

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kind of try to mimic nature. You unbarb your hook,
so you know, you do with at least amount of
damage to the fish as possibles. That means when you
hook it, yeah, you have to really keep it taut
or else the fish is going to get away easier.
It's much more of a sport. You get bigger fish
with that that style too necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
No, no, that's why. For some reason I always thought
that no interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
So it's just but the rods are more sensitive. So
it's like like a ten inch or a twelve inch
trout is a fight. Yeah, that's a fight.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
So it's more fun. I get it. I mean it
just seems more like, would you just say, more of
a sport kind of like, yeah, it is. It's more technical.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
You know, when people really into what they tie their
own flies.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
I'm like my fan my fingers, I get glue all
over my fingers. Yeah, I'm not good at that. But
you don't need to do that. But like the real
hardcore that will tie the wrong fly.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
You know, with Ted Williams that book I ready was
on and I sure like he.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Did it perfectly because everything he did was perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Oh yeah, yeah. Just to go back real quick to
the running back question, I thought that was a really
good question, just because I always feel like when we
get to camp, they're like, you know, you don't get
any of what Ramandra Stevenson is in training camp, like
because he's a lot about after contact and you know,
the guys are just going off of him. But would
you I almost feel like hearing you guys talk about it,
it's almost easier to lose a job as a running

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back in camp than to win the job. You know,
like I feel like you in camp just earned the opportunity.
But if you're blowing assignments in pass protection, you're putting
the ball on the ground, like, those are the things
that are just not going to happen. But there's not
really like, oh he broke a huge run in training camp,
he just secured a job, Like, no way, nobody's tackling now.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
It's kind of like what Fred said though, with the
growing trend of less and less contact in training camp,
I think pretty much all positions are now it's more
mental like and they and that's what makes it hard
for us is because you don't get to see if
like when we would go out there and we judge
it off of what we're seeing in terms of personnel. Right,

(01:11:01):
So you might watch and see last year, you know,
very obvious one was was Brendan Schooler and DeMarcus Mitchell working,
you know, so exclusively with Matthew Slater. Right, So you said,
these two guys are probably gonna stick around. They have
special teams role, but you don't know why behind the scenes,

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those guys are getting those opportunities and some other you know,
defensive backs that are in camp or not getting those opportunities.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
And pay attention to preseason because you know the score
doesn't matter, and you'll see like a series of downs
where a running back will get every play. You know,
he'll run a couple, then they'll throw a couple to him,
and if he gets the first down, he'll get even more.
Though they'll set up those scenarios to showcase a guy
within a preseason game to see how he does.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
But I agree with you, Mike, I think it is
a tough It's a good question because it's a tough
thing to identify. Yeah, you know, like you see guys,
especially like running backs. How many times we watch a
training camp over the course of a week, and it's like,
who got the first carry of that set? Oh it
was Damien Harris today. Oh no, it was Remondery today. No,
it was Time Montgomery today. They can change all the time,

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and and Fred's right. They did that last year in
the preseason games where they gave series to one guy,
because I think that was something they really wanted to
do going into the season, is to be less predictable
based on personnel on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
As you can see, Evan has joined us. Hello, Evan, Uh,
got to get his mic on here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Matt's doing a lot of stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
I don't like when Matt's running around.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I feel it makes you nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Just I feel bad because he can kill you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Yeah, that's why it makes me one of these I
don't want to I don't want to upset him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
So Evan, what's up.

Speaker 6 (01:12:47):
It just came from Calvin Anderson and josh U Jay's
media availability, and Calvin Anderson dropped a little bit of
a of a bomb on the media on his way
off the podium that he is a Rubik's Cube wizard
and can solve a Rubik's cub in thirteen seconds, he said,
and he also said that he has a method of

(01:13:10):
solving it behind his back, so blindfolded or behind his back.
That is, he's credited with the method as he invented it.
Really this method to solve this Rubik's cube, so.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Social we can look that up on Wikipedia or something.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Yeah, it's like Rocky training in the meat run. I
sort of invented that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
So yeah, my immediate thought was, well, this is a
great piece of content for us, you know, for our
social team.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
To put this whole Strange can do it too. Oh
so maybe we.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
Can have a little bit of a cube off. But
it sounds like Calvin Anderson's like a professional when it comes.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
To this because like my son who is now in
eighth grade, he can sult it. I mean once you know, yeah,
the order, here's a way to do this, do it
like it's not like, oh, he can see what it
is and get like you just start doing the formula
like the algoid these video games.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
His cheek coats yeah yeah, left.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Right, left, right, yeah, start, But he does it behind
his back, yeah, behind his back.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
And he said that he can solve it regularly, not
behind his back. In thirteen seconds. He can solve it
behind his back in around twenty to twenty five seconds,
he said, and it was interesting, you know, when it's done,
I don't know, he's like, you know, I don't just knows.
But well, he's got some personality.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I'll give him that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
Like you we'll see what it's like out on the field.
But he's got some personality. And I came out big smile.
He's wearing a retro Patriots a starter jacket that he
said that his agency sent him when he signed with
the Patriots in March, So he's got he's got some swag.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Did you talk it all about his initial stint here
in nineteen.

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Oh, yeah, that was like the majority of the questions
was about what did you learn back then, how did
it help you, How it's it like to be back now,
And he just mentioned that it actually hardened him a
little bit to the business of the NFL. And he
said that once he got cut by the Patriots, he
got real serious about football and recognized that if I'm

(01:15:11):
going to make a career out of this, it's it's
not college Like, I'm not just going to show up
to practice five days a week and go through the
motions that I'm going to have to really go all
in on this.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
So he gave a lot of.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
Credit to the Patriots for instilling that in him, almost
giving him that chip on the shoulder by.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
Accident kind of you know, thank you for cutting me.

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
Yeah, right, And then he went to Denver, talked a
lot about Mike Munchak, the legendary offensive line coach, and
you know, his impact on him and going up against
von Miller in practice in Denver, he said, was his
welcome to the NFL rookie type of moment as a
rookie back in nineteen. So a lot of media in attendance,

(01:15:52):
a decent amount. I mean, this is these types of offseason.
This is like the real the real ogs, you know,
like this is the Friday. This is the diehards that
come in for these little one offs, and so the
other guys have to be at like Celtics. Oh yeah that.
I didn't mean to throw anybody under the bus, but
it just you know, this is the core group of

(01:16:14):
guys that are really just covering the Patriots are the
guys that that come to these anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
How many of the people in attendants are going to
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
To talk about Swift.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
Not a lot of talk about Swift. No grousing about
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
I don't know grousing, but what about excitement.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
No, there wasn't any of that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
Actually, I didn't. A lot of Celtics talk, of course,
and a lot of back and forth about about that,
but not too much about any about Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
Now, okay, ohch is good? Yeah, you know, he was.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
Mentioned a couple of things about he didn't mention, but
was asked about his contract and being in a contract year,
and then also asked about last year and building off
of last year and even if he took some time
to appreciate that he had a breakout season, and he said, no,
that really no resting on his laurels. And I think

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that's he's in the right mindset in terms of the
contract to just take care of what I can take
care of, and if I play well, then the money
and all that stuff will come. So well, it'd be
interesting to see. I asked him about playing a little
bit more of a three down role moving forward and
not just being a forty snap guy and how important
that was to him, and he said, you know, everybody's

(01:17:32):
got a role on the team, So I think he
kind of recognizes that his role on this team is
to rush the passer, and they're gonna have other guys
in there that are gonna be on first and ten
stopping the run.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
So, okay, Willem and Philim are called earlier, Evan, he
was wishing that you were on the show at the time,
because you know Malik Cunningham, your your attitude on Malie Cunningham.
Really it's not sitting.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Well with him, Briand in his gears.

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
Okay, so I wrote about I wrote about the udfas
this week, so that that's my full thoughts on Malik Cunningham,
who I do think is a quarterback. My biggest thing
with Malie Cunningham with Patriots fans is that the only
way I can phrase this is that good teams don't
hope that guys like Malik Cunningham turned into superstar players
because they have real receivers that catch the football and

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make Pro Bowls and All Pro teams for a living.
So we always get our site set on these udfas
like Malie Cuttingham, like this is the next breakout guy, right,
this is the next star of the Patriots because he's
athletic and can run with the football. And my whole
thing is like, why don't we root for Taekwon Thornton
becoming that guy or de Mario Douglas becoming that guy

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and not have to bank on a UDFA. That's a
quarterback switching positions to receiver and then blossoming into some
great football.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Well, Kurt Warner the only undrafted quarterback that really became
a great Tony Romo, Oh he was undrafted. Okay, all right,
all right, Well there's a couple happens.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
But do you think like even to like your point, like,
was anybody excited about Julian Edelman as a receiver when
he came here? And right, no, but Belichick didn't know
he was going to be to receive? No, I know
that's what I mean, Like, you know, the situation was
reversed and you drafted him. Now people might be a
little bit more.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
But I think that's encapsulates what I think Evans talking about,
like it happened once, so it will happen again, And
I can I know you don't like you don't like it.
When I played the hits and I read all the
names of the guys that every one of these people
told me was going to be the next Julian Edelman,
Jeremy Gallon, Jeremy Gown, Jeremy Ebert, j Mo, Jeff Thomas,

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rast Burials. Right, Like, we've had so many of those guys,
and almost all of them never you know, never even
stuck around, let alone turned into Julian Edelman. So odds
are this guy won't do that either. But that's okay.
Like I think if Evan's right and they make him

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and they keep him at a quarterback, that's what you
think that is. Yeah, I'm excited about that. We talked
about this before you got here. Just different skill set.
Let him develop. He's got time. There's two guys in
front of him. Let's see if there's anything.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:20:24):
Yeah, I actually have some excitement about him as a quarterback.
My whole gripe is with people that are trying to
make him into a receiver and then thinking that that's
going to turn him into some perennial All Pro player
just because he's got some athleticism and has a good
skill set with the ball in his hands. But as
a quarterback, he's different. He's not He's not Josh Allen

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or Patrick Mahomes where he's gonna roll out and flick
the ball sixty yards down the field. He doesn't have
an arm cannon, but he throws a good touch to
the first and second level, I thought. And he adds
that running quarterback element. He certainly does, so there's more
to be optimistic about their keeping him at quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
But he's small. He's small. He is small.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
He's five to eleven ninety two pounds. So he's bright, young, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Yeah, completing each other's sentences. Orry's just become best friends.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Todd in North Carolina. I hate Todd.

Speaker 18 (01:21:18):
So I've heard a lot of people calling in worried
about you know, well, they're going to have this record,
you know, it's going to be a big losing record,
or oh they're going to have this kind of optimistic
they're going to have this kind of record. And I'm
I'm thinking this is not a year for looking at that.
The schedule is tough, things are changing for me to
be a good year, I want to see improvement from
our rookies, and I just want to see an offense. Say,

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if you can show me an offense, an offense that
you know starts out might it's a little bit the slow,
but but at the end of the year is actually competent.
I'm not saying we need Brady style offense, but just
has progressed and the young guy's gone, that's going to
be enough for this year. I don't think, you know,
I think kind of pick wins and losses and stuff
like that with this schedule and with.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
The the team is.

Speaker 18 (01:22:01):
I don't think that's the right way to go. I
want your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Well, Okay, I know I hear what you're saying. I'm
going into the season with hope, not necessarily expectations, but
it is about winning, right, We're playing a game, you know,
so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
And like the previous caller said, like you're four years
in now, yeah, and we're not supposed to be concerned
about competing for like a playoff spot and winning ten
twelve games.

Speaker 6 (01:22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
I just think that's like, you know, what the debate is,
and it's such a weird place to be. But we
all know what's happened over twenty years and what Bill
Belichick has done for this organization. But you know, at
what point does it become all right, what have you
done for us lately? And you know, four seasons, five seasons.
It's just I mean, I just I and I don't
want to get into like I oh, I think they
need to fire him right now, Like I just think

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it's an interesting conversation to have about what. You know,
everyone knows that he's earned a lot of trust and
goodwill from the teams that he helped put together and
put on the field and bring to super Bowl titles.
But you know, just what's reasonable reasonable expectation? Like what
would Bill Belichick say to that? You know, how long
do you have?

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
Six?

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
Seven?

Speaker 11 (01:23:06):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Like, what is the number where you feel like, okay,
we just don't have we've lost it and we need
to make a change.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
You Now, what Todd said, I would largely agree with.
I would probably feel better about the situation if I
saw some progress on offense and it looked like mac
Jones took a step forward and solidified that grip and okay,
we're not having any offseason talk who's the quarterback next year?

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Get out?

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
You know, that would make me, That would make me
feel better about the situation. But I don't think you
should go into a season ever in that league. Anybody
must not be concerned with wins and losses. Let's just
you know, let's show let's try to show some progress
and right, especially four years post Brady, like that's this
is not like a new rebuild. This is not a
new team.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Yep. Yeah, that's why I think, Like I think everyone's
okay with the pass in twenty twenty for a variety
of course, for a variety of reasons. And then in
twenty twenty one, you you drafted a order back, you
got back to the playoffs. It felt like, all right,
it's maybe the start of something. Yeah. I think last
year though is But if we can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Come out of this season knowing that Max the guy,
then good things would have had to have happened. Yeah, right,
all right, and that's that'd be good. You know, if
we go into twenty fourth knowing who our quarterback is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
Yeah, you know, so new faces emerged, you know, not
just him, but I mean who's he throwing the ball to?
Who are making the place for him?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Like I said, if we know that going out of
the season, good things would have had to happen, meaning
he did throw and guys caught it, they score touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
You know, he's just handed out to remondre right five
thousand times.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
And we talk a lot about you know what stuff
that other people are writing, you know, Todd said, you
know about people predicting records and whatnot. I don't know
if you guys caught a story that Greg Bdard had
this week. It was sort of projecting the possibilities of
offensive personnel being replaced, you know, like David Andrews was
a guy he thought with Jake Andrews, you know, what

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are the chances that they were thinking, you know, thirty one,
it's missed some time, you know, maybe the time to
put some maybe earlier than later, right, you know, what
are the chances he could be replaced as the center
this year? I thought it was interesting that he had.
Mac Jones was the last one he wrote about, and
he said, I want to say there was twenty five
percent chance or twenty percent chance for Zappi to overtake

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him coming out of camp. And he said that he
doesn't think it's close. He thinks mac Jones is far
and away. So he kind of agrees with us on
the on the evaluation and that it will show in
training camp. But he put it at forty percent chance
of Jones being replaced during the season. Did you guys

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want to read this at all?

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
My bad?

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
I didn't read. We're the only one that reads clips.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
I usually do read his place by zapp.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Because of the schedule and the sort of likelihood that
they get off to a slow start and for whatever
reason they need a and then it kind of coincides
with a little bit of a softening and then Zappi
takes It was almost like last year when Zabie gets
in there, you know, after opening with you know, Eagles

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with my but look even last year, it's like Miami
and Baltimore, you know, Miami, pittsfordh Baltimore, and then Zappi
goes in and it's Detroit Cleveland, you know, and Detroit
was a mess at the time. I mean know what,
you know, they obviously turned their season around, but Detroit
was not good early in the season, and then Cleveland

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was not good at any point in the season. And
that's the games that Zappie got to play, you know,
so they was sort of I think Greg was sort
of looking at that, it was like could that happen again?
And all of a sudden, Zappi takes over, has some success,
maybe against a Washington or an Indie in Germany.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
The only way that happens if it's like so putrid
or injury otherwise it's man.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Or or or well he put it at forty He
put it at forty percent.

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
That's why I brought it up. I thought that I
thought that was high, that a high.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I mean, I agree with the general premise of it
that I don't think that Bailey Zappy has a real
chance to win the quarterback job out of training camp.
But I also think that that's just it's unfair in
a way. But it's also just these are these are
this is how the schedule is always going to be.
It's you know, like they're always going to be tough
teams and either you roll with Mac Jones and any
any ride or die. You know, they win or lose
or you know, what good is it going to do?

(01:27:27):
All Right, well, Matt couldn't beat the good team, So
let's go to Zappie now and and we'll just kind
of like wave the white flag a little bit. Like
I don't know, I just I mean, I don't I
don't disagree with what he's saying, but I also just think,
like clickbait, what difference is it going to be if
you that's me?

Speaker 5 (01:27:40):
What difference if it was clickbait? I don't think it
would have been the last two paragraphs of his story
and not having anything to do with the headline. It's
just like he just went down all the offensive personnel,
Like he talked about the receivers exactly the way we
did Born and to a lesser extent Parker like if
you get some kids that come in and jope, that's
not we We had a whole conversation about it, probably

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last week. So that's what he was writing about, is
all the offensive personnel. He went into great detail about
the tackles as only Greg can Greg evan.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Bit.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
Yet he didn't even know that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
That just got me.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
Don't even look at him, don't even look don't even
look at it. Just like I can actually do a pass.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
Set while doing a Rubik's cube behind Well, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
Just, you know, to have an offensive lineman in all seriousness,
it has a little bit of personality. Like you know,
most of the time you talk to those guys and
I'm not to pick a Riley Reef, but most of
them sound like Riley Reef, right Like I I just
come to work, I do my job, and I go home.
Like that's like, but then you get Calvin Anderson in
there and he's got some bizzazz, and you're like, Okay, yeah,

(01:28:45):
this guy I could talk to, Like, if this guy
starts this year, I could actually.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Have a start a conversation. I started check.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
I feel like we talked about the likelihood of Marketing
replaced in season being higher than him getting replaced for
week one loses the job to Zappi in camp. I
think that that's that's definitely in play if it starts
poorly for four to six weeks. But I think you
know that to Todd's call, I just looked up justin

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Herbert's rookie season where they did not win very many games,
but he threw thirty one touchdowns to ten interceptions in
over forty two hundred yards. If MAC had a year
like that, where they go, I think Herbert went six
and eight in the games that he started or something
like that, or won six games. If they win six
or seven games, but MAC has this great stat line,

(01:29:37):
are we really optimistic?

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
I don't know, I just I think some of us
will be.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Yeah, are they losing games thirty four to thirty one? Yeah,
I'm a little bit optimistic. Maybe, you know, now we
got to tweak our defense.

Speaker 15 (01:29:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
I just wonder how much of it, too, is how
Mac deals with it, and if it's necessarily a direct
reflection of his performance or just you know what, we
have to reset this person, and you know, to send
a message like if it's going to be that kind
of thing, not as cut and dry as you're not
playing good, you're gonna be bench like it's going to
be way more complicated than that. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
Yeah, Alex in Englewood, New Jersey, on this.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
Is curious about his level of confidence that you don't
think that there's a chance that he doesn't play well
when they replace.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Him, Like I said, it would have to be really
putrid like last year. Well but last year if you repeat,
I know, last half of last year.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Fact. I think he's getting replaced. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
But if he had not had the injury, I don't
think he would have ever been replaced.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Oh I do.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
If he kept playing the way he played in the
first three games, I think he was going to get replaced.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
I don't think so, because remember when he got injured,
that was his best game.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
Yeah, and it's still involved three interceptions.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
I know that THEO was playing better. I think I
don't think if he had that injury, we would have
been talking about Bailey Zappy last year.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
I just I don't know. I don't know if there
was an offense to be gotten last year, So I don't,
you know, I don't even know if he could, like
I agree with that, but I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Uh, let's see, well, I think let's see how close
they are in camp, you know. So anyway, Alex in Engleland,
New Jersey, in a slow football day, I want to
know who would be on your top five greatest Boston athletes.
These are people you've watched across all teams that you
believe helped carry the legacy that is Boston sports in
their dominance. Very interesting to see who you all choose

(01:31:24):
in looking forward to Evan scoffing at everyone's list thinking
his is the best.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Eric I know. Of course, are we talking about all time?
Do you have to did you have to see him
play too? Because that seems like that might have been
part of the part of the equation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
It's like you could say Ted Williams, but none of
us saw him play.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
As the top five or are we doing Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
I'm gonna do just ones I've seen. I'm Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 (01:31:52):
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
Am I allowed to say that. Ray Bork's on there
for me for me, Ray Bor for me? For me?

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
It's his list.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Who had playing the role of Evan?

Speaker 15 (01:32:03):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
Who had friend? Who had fred scoffing at someone's list?

Speaker 6 (01:32:06):
Yeah right, I mean I.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
Would have said Bobby or if but I had I
never saw him play, so I got I gotta stick
to guys I.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
See, I saw a little bit, so I can say
Bobby or Yeah. Yeah, I would say Brady Bird.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Yeah I saw Bird play Bird.

Speaker 8 (01:32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Like once, maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:32:24):
Your lack of basketball knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
I actually was a little bit of a basketball fan
in the eighties though, when they you know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:28):
Oh when they were good, when yeah, they're not good now,
I mean makes sense, Yeah they're good now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
He was a kid.

Speaker 6 (01:32:35):
Yeah, I heard you guys talking Celtics earlier, which I
was upset about because I didn't get to to I.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Know, we should have been playing about something.

Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
So then you heard I was. I came.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
I told Alex I sitting there watching the first half
last night, and I was all prepared.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
I was like, Wow, he finally did it. He stayed
out of the way he did what he could do,
and look at how well Mark or Smart is playing.
And then ten minutes stretch of the third quarter happened,
and I said, I gotta take everything bad.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
I forgot.

Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
Yeah. But of course, if you you know, tell Green
teamers that is because in the third quarter they sagged
off of him to defend the passing lanes because he
was passing so well, so he had no choice but
to chuck up a bunch of threes like there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
I mean, so Februne's in the lane, lets someone else
shoot the three.

Speaker 6 (01:33:20):
You know, they're just taking what the defense is given him. Friend,
that's what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
David Ortiz, Yeah he should be up there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
I would put Pedro, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Clemens, but they never won a championship.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
Yeah, I would put Clemens ahead of Watiz too, even
though won a lot of titles.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
But yeah, I would put Pedro above all of them.
Why are you not, David Ortiza?

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
I love, but I'm just just yeah, no, I just
I'm just talking about individual great like I think Mandy
was better than but had the moments.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
Yeah, that to me, what was I guess it is
more of a casual fan, you know, like that's what
you remember is like, God, you know basis loaded top
of the tenth, the bottom of the ten. You know,
he's the one usually usually because many doubled ahead of him.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
I mean, Bobby Orr was you gotta he's gotta be
up there?

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Oh my god, that's I could probably put Bobby Or
I didn't really see by the time I got to
see him play, he.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Was just watch the highlight.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
No, obviously I know all about it. But I could
do that with Ted Williams too, Like I'm trying to
just do players that I actually watched player.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
But Bobby Or transcended the things of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
He changed the game.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
He built the hockey rinks, you know, Like I mean
hockey rinks were built because of Bobby Wore.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Yeah, I mean all that's true. I just didn't really
get to see him do it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
That's how it was in LA with Gretzky too. There's
just you could like every every hockey rink you go
to around l A, there's some kind of impact from
Wayne gret Like if there's a green Gretzky on.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
The front of we're not going to compare l A,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
But the phenomenon that you're talking about I totally get
one player comes and he made it cool for people
in l even to think about hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
I wonder if it was Bobby or the empty C
ranks that are that litter our state that I played
many many that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
Was all the same.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
They were all built in the early to mid seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
Yeah, it's like you never know which one you're into.

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
All the same with that that like brownish cinder block
sides with like the brown like metallity, you know, all built.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
I love every one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
Yeah, because even our ranking ever, we had an MPTC ranking. Ever,
it was outdoor. It was an outdoor rink like so
they had no sides. I obviously had a roof. And
then then we did the whole thing like right around that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
Real hockey was in basketball courts.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
Everyone was duncan.

Speaker 6 (01:35:41):
Yeah, what do you have, Evan, I'm pretty young, so
I don't really have like I would say Tom Brady obviously.
If I had to say, like just like dominant athletes, like,
I'd probably put Nancy Kerrigan. Of course, know I'd probably
put Gronk on on my list, just in terms of
pure dominance. I gave some thoughts sport, you know, the

(01:36:02):
the Bruins in the in the Red Sox, i'd go
Pager or Teas. Also the Bruins and the Celtics. I
don't know if they've in my lifetime had a truly
pat a truly like legendary Bobby or I.

Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
Don't think they have.

Speaker 14 (01:36:19):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
I mean, I mean cam Neely could have.

Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
Been, but yeah I was, and I was pretty young
for cam Neely. But when I will say, just as
a Celtics fan, growing up a diehard Celtics fan still,
you know, when Kevin Garnett came here, it was a
short period of time that he was here, but he
changed the entire culture of the Celtics in eight I
mean he came in and it was a completely different

(01:36:42):
vibe around the team.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
By the way, Kevin Garnett really good actor. Like the
commercials he sells it. He's really good job. No, he's
a good actor.

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
I look at the Celtics now and I look at
a guy like Jason Tate him, you know, just kind
of starving for like that Kevin Garnett big brother.

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
That's just gonna be like.

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
Like today, we're not doing this, like we're not going
to give up forty six points in a third quarter
in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
Finals, like this isn't happening, mcinness.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
Yeah, you know, And I think that al Horford tries
to play that role for him now, But I don't
know if al Horford has the cache that that KG
had for Paul Pierce. But Paul Pierce became a totally
different player when Kevin Garnett got here, and I feel
like the Celtics team needs that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
I remember, you know, there was that game where Cedric
Maxwell said, hey, everybody again on my shoulders.

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
And he that game, yeah four finals.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Well yeah, and he played great. I don't think al
Horford can.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
Do that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
Oh god, no, Yeah, Maxwell was a vastly superior player
to al Horford.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
Plus, like Garnett and Willie so scary, like they're just
intimidating kind of present.

Speaker 9 (01:37:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:37:59):
I like.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
Brady Brady Bird Pedro to me is a solid three.
But I would have like Gronk would get a lot
of consideration for me to be a fourth.

Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
Yeah, I mean, my favorite Patriot but besides Brady was
Randy Moss. But it was so short that I don't
know if I would necessarily put him on a mount
rushmore of Boston athletes, but Massage was up there as well.
In terms of just pure Andy.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
I could put Bergier on there, but that would just
be a sentimental favorite. He's not at that talent level
of those other guys.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Andy and Cleveland. Boy, it's gonna be seven to ten
this year. That's gonna be tough, like you guys said.
Hopefully that at least includes some comfort behind scoring thirty
points on offense a few times in positive signs for Mac.
I'm just disappointed that this is how the Belichick era
is going down, and he'll always be remembered without hit
with his without Brady win percentage. When Brady left and

(01:38:55):
won a Super Bowl, I honestly had hoped Bill would
get one, uh one or two inside of three years,
because I've always been on the side of it's both
of them on the was it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
Bill or Tom debate?

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
You're on the right side, then at least we'll always
have the world's longest running podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Appreciate your coverage.

Speaker 5 (01:39:14):
Yeah, I mean it's always going to be because of
both of them.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
Yeah. Is it weird that I was surprised last night
that Bill got like a really big round of applause.

Speaker 6 (01:39:23):
The Celtics crowd loves Bill. Yeah, yeah, always does.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
We get sing about who those Celtics fans are.

Speaker 22 (01:39:31):
I mean that's by far and away the most honked
of the four sports. Well, they're the number one rated
fan base and that just that does not that does
not surprise Players Association.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
Yeah, that does not surprise me at all. That is
like one thousand you were against us, like that is all.

Speaker 6 (01:39:50):
That is always always awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
Those are your people, though people, Yet somehow they still
get called out by Jalen Brown. I agree with everything
Evan just a su.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Jaalen Brown has got a complicated relationship with Celtics fan
so I know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
That Chris and Kofax California. I'm one that believes the
addition of Billy Oh will make a massive difference on
the offense. I think the weapons are actually solid. The
way I look going from Matt Patricia to Billy Oh
is like giving decent ingredients to a McDonald's cook for
his giving the same ingredients to Gordon Ramsey. If Matt
can be even a decent quarterback, our offense should be

(01:40:28):
good enough to contend for a playoff. When second, I
really wish the Patriots would stop with the rookies earned numbers. Nonsense.
I want to get a Gonzales number zero jersey. But
I have a feeling some jag special teamer will get
the number because he can't.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Take it yet. No, just wait, he'll have a fifty jersey.
Probably why do you want?

Speaker 5 (01:40:49):
That won't be the reason because he won't be a lot.
Someone else might want zero instead of him, like Jack Jones,
who has been on Twitter saying that. But the rookies
can get their numbers once, like training camp is over.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
Yeah, once for the first preseason game, they'll have them. Yeah,
but they'll wear fifty through sixty whatever. Right, does anybody
in twenty four right now?

Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Well, chessh Blotzo Josh Blotze too much. I'd love to
see him in zero. That'll be fun.

Speaker 5 (01:41:20):
Put four now that could that could happen too, because
maybe Jack Jones, you know, who's got to start at
square one after being suspended last Let's focus.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
On James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan in the world,
says Fred. We have a phrase in the army hope
is not a course of action.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
Well, I'm not the one podcast. I'm just watching I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
Making running the world's original podcast. We're not We're not
worried about saving a nation.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
And also he writes in who is the best sports
person you guys have ever faced? When I lived in
New Hampshire, I became friends with the Dartmouth squash coach,
a German who was ranked fifth in the world a
few years earlier. I played a few games against him,
and I didn't even get close to winning a single point.

Speaker 4 (01:42:03):
Oh that's how Gil count. You should have count. I
got a bunch of I got a lot of hockey
players that I mean. I played with Tom PODi, who
went on to but those were he was a defenseman.
I'm trying to think of just like a really slick
offensive player, like, yeah, who made you look bad?

Speaker 14 (01:42:21):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
I mean people, plenty of people, but nobody famous.

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
I faced a lot of former Major League Baseball players.
The best one was probably Jeff Bagwell, and I got
him to hit a ball about eight thousand miles in
the air, popped up to second base. Oh yeah, just
missed it, just missed it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
There's gotta be one.

Speaker 5 (01:42:41):
But when we played Miami, like Charles Johnson, Orlando palmeirow
FP Santangele. They had like five or six Alex Fernandez.
They had a lot of guys that like four years
later were in Major League Baseball. Not surprising, we lost
seventeen to nothing in twenty five to one.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Pitching. Pitching.

Speaker 6 (01:43:01):
Yeah, you guys don't know any of them. Lacrosse players,
Yeah stuff, Thank god.

Speaker 15 (01:43:09):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
I played against a lot of lacrosse players that have
like Massachusetts state records and stuff like that. So some
of those guys definitely made me look like I had
cinder blocks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
But I played against a tennis player who was like
ranked three hundred in the world, and it was like
I couldn't even touch it, sir.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
Th And yeah, right, just.

Speaker 7 (01:43:31):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
He was a Dunlop rep. And so I was running
this tennis program and he came down like with rackets
to like sell and but he was also a player,
so he you know, three hundred, you're not making a
lot of money, so you have to have a side job.
So he was working with Dunlop and we played and
like it was like he had this kick serve that
would just go over my head.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
You know, those ghost crazy tennis players, especially on the Cape.
Winn and some of those guys like the pros.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
That's what Fred did.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
Andy really just had no chance.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
I wish they couldn't and he couldn't touch his serve.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Not these days, well maybe in pickball abomination.

Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
These days we're going to get Fred into pickleball.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
No, you don't have to run, David writes in question
for Evan, he says, even as a Bruins hater, I
have to ask who told Evan that Pastornak isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
A goal store scorer.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
I'm still not over that comment, especially considering hockey's my
favorite sport. Everyone recognizes Pasta as an excellent player, and
I'm not sure who was saying.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
Excellent an excellent goal scorer.

Speaker 6 (01:44:34):
I think he's got this backward.

Speaker 5 (01:44:36):
This was about goal scoring.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
I think he's got this backward. So I was making
fun of Paul's shows, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
And that's what he's asking you. Who said that he's
not a goal scorer your show?

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
And I was being sarcastic, And having heard the next
three weeks, they continue to rip the crap out of
past Arch and no one says that he can't score goals,
I've heard, like I typically wanted to listen because I'm like,
what did I miss?

Speaker 6 (01:45:02):
How did I disappears in the playoffs? Which he's inaccurate? Okay,
he's a he's a pointed game guy in the playoffs.
He was a net drag in the playoffs. He did
not play well. I don't care how nobody played well.

Speaker 5 (01:45:15):
I don't care. I don't care how he was this coursey.

Speaker 6 (01:45:19):
Oh god, there were like two or three guys on
the Bruins that played well, and that's.

Speaker 5 (01:45:23):
And some of them will go on the wrong way
and overtime letting the puck go off the back of
their skate to cost you a game. Like there's a
difference between not playing well and doing things that are
directly responsible for you losing, Like berge Round was on
the ice for the last I don't know, he didn't
really he didn't turn the puck over and give it
to someone in the slot to win the game. There's
a difference.

Speaker 6 (01:45:41):
I'm not sure how I got labeled as the one
that doesn't like poster knock. I think that was that
email or Scott got this argument totally.

Speaker 5 (01:45:48):
That's not what the emailer said. He said, where did
you ever hear that he couldn't score goals? He's asking
you okay.

Speaker 6 (01:45:55):
Show that that comment was clearly sarcastic.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
I was exaggerating the point.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
Emailer, Emailer, I understood what you were saying.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
I did not. Thanks for the email.

Speaker 5 (01:46:06):
He wasn't suggesting that you said he couldn't score goals.
He was suggesting no one has ever said.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
That a certain person. Oh and it looks like according
to Greet, the preseason schedule has been finalized.

Speaker 6 (01:46:21):
Actually according to us.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
According to us, we asked that, all right, yeah for
our listeners Thursday August tenth versus the Texans seven pm.
Then Saturday, August nineteenth at Packers eight pm. Friday the
twenty fifth. We knew that twenty fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:46:34):
It just gets worse Thursday, Saturday Friday about.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
I'm in trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
Why we have tickets to Zach brownband on the nineteenth.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
Oh you can't miss that?

Speaker 13 (01:46:44):
So you know?

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Is it in Green Bay?

Speaker 6 (01:46:46):
It's no police to Bay. And he's doing one show,
not Taylor Swift. He's not going to be there for
three straight.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
You're going to Green.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
Bay's right, we'll be there already.

Speaker 5 (01:47:00):
Oh, maybe we got to get him better.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
You have to stay for the game.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
Is Zach Brown here? I could be talked in this thing.

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
And we could definitely do that if you really wanted to.
We could talk about it off.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
We could figure that out.

Speaker 5 (01:47:14):
I mean, it is just the preseason.

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
I mean it's his job, so I think he needs
to be there. Okay, you know me, I'll be in
Green Bay. Thanks for the Okay, you want to go?
You have to speak Evan this whole thing where he's like, oh,
I'm in so much trouble, and he's like, I love
my job so much.

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
I thought you really okay, Like I don't know, you.

Speaker 4 (01:47:34):
Rather do go to a Zach Man concert or go
see the Patriots playing the Packers in the preseason? Preseason?
Of course?

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
Have you ever been to Lambo?

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
Yeah? Last year? Oh that's right, yeah, first time last year.

Speaker 5 (01:47:45):
Then you should go to the Zach Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Karen writes in just curious, what are your thoughts on
trading for Mike Evans? Could we get him for a
second or third Parker and Born? He would be an
upgrade over Parker and would uh something for our late
round picks.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
Just wanted to throw a new name in the ring.
Why is he available?

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
I don't know, but I'm not I could stand on
an island one that I don't that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:48:13):
I guess I don't know. Maybe if I'm just sick
of it, but I just want to see what they
got now with what they got, and let's get those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:48:18):
Just don't think he fits what they do now, Okay,
that's what we tried to do last year. Let's just
throw bombs down the sideline up for grabs, like, yeah,
he's he'll catch more of them, probably than Parker would.
But yeah, I'd like to see him go in a
different direction.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Uh, it seems this is Rick and havel h. It
seems to me that the AFC East is going to
mirror the American League East in baseball. Every team is good,
but there's a chance that the two Boston teams may
wind up in last place. Seriously, in your opinion, what
individual group needs to make the biggest difference for the
Patriots to make the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
Quarterback? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
You can't say the quarterback is the most important position
in the field and not say that that's going to
make the most difference.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
He's got to pick up this new offense. He's got
to just look like I'd love to see him a
week from today, and he just looks comfortable and it
just seems like, all right, he's going through reads, you
get the balls coming out quick.

Speaker 6 (01:49:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
Just does he look comfortable and on board? And if
he can carry that into camp and into the season.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
Jonah says, I'm very enthusiastic about our chances of having
a much improved offense this year with Bill O'Brien. I
think our wide receiving corps is solid enough. However, I
am having a hard time thinking of any young quarterback
in recent history he become a successful one without a
wr one already being on the roster, or the team

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adding prior to adding prior to their breakout season. Example
Josh Allen and Diggs hurts and he goes down the list.
Lamar is the only exception I can think of. However,
He's uniquely gifted. This isn't to say we can't judge
Mac without one, but it would be interesting to see
him with one.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
What year did the Bills get the three dig Diggs?

Speaker 8 (01:50:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:50:07):
Year three?

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Yeah. And you know, to be fair, it's a little
Josh Allen was iffy up until that point.

Speaker 6 (01:50:15):
He was like his second season was pretty good. Numbers
to the second season. They he had solidified himself in
year two as like I'm a guy and then obviously
Digs took him to the next level. I think that,
you know, a guy like Jalen Hurts, it was somebody
that was maybe a little bit more wishy washy. I
remember being out there at joint practices in Philly and

(01:50:36):
they weren't totally sure that Jalen Hurts was gonna be.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
They weren't totally short heading into left.

Speaker 6 (01:50:41):
Yeah. Yeah, So I think a j Brown it kind
of he took off with with Jalen Hurts. I'm with
Paul on this one. I think Alan was already on
an upward ascension and then he got Digs in that and.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
Like and we always say there's there's plenty of ways
to skin a cat, but I think like these examples
are just, hey, we know we've got the guy at quarterback.
It's going to be worth our investment to go out
and get one of these, you know, top ranked receivers.
Of course you have, I mean, like, what's what's the
kid in? Like, what's Herbert? You know? I mean it
kind of had Keenan Allen and Mike Williams waiting there

(01:51:14):
are either one of those guys and why not really,
but it was enough for him to Like what you said,
the stats, I meaneah, thirty plus touchdowns, and I do
think listen, and I'm just looking from year two to
year three. I mean it was twenty touchdowns, nine picks
his in his second year and it went to thirty
seven and ten. There's no denying the impact that those
guys have. Like, so I'm not dismissing you know, the

(01:51:34):
AJ Browns and the Stefan Diggs and the Tyreek Hills.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
I think in Allen's case in particular, I think people
ignore the fact that he came in a raw rookie,
showed some promise, improved in year two, and was on
and upward trajectory when they got Stefan Diggs. Like I'm
not telling you that would have been exactly the same
had they not gotten Digs, but I think that he
would be like their quarterback hands down with it going

(01:52:03):
to the play they went to the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:52:04):
Anyway, Yeah, like they they should have won that playoff.

Speaker 5 (01:52:07):
Now, now maybe they were Super Bowl contender now because
they went out and got the guy. Yeah, but they
were good even with Josh Allen sort of be like,
and that's not to let the.

Speaker 6 (01:52:17):
Patriots off the hook for not getting the guy either,
because I still think that Tua and Jalen Hurts model
of Tyreek Hill coming in and making what he is
is that's still a viable strategy either way. Either it
makes the quarterback Josh Allen and he goes from good
to elite, or it makes an average quarterback into an
above average quarterback because he's got these guys that he's

(01:52:38):
throwing to. So either either way, you you slice it
that getting the number one guy is something that they
didn't do this offseason that they still need to do
unless you project that Taye Kwon Thornton is gonna come
out of nowhere and be that guy for Mac moving forward.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
But do you think they totally disagree with us like that?
I mean like that, I just wonder that, like they're like, yeah,
we don't.

Speaker 6 (01:52:58):
I think certain Honestly, I think certain people in the
building do and certain people don't. I really do think
that there's a little bit of a of a general
divide in this just I mean, I know that there
is people in the building that believe in the number
one receiver. I think specifically believe in maximizing a rookie
contract at the quarterback position, and knowing that if you

(01:53:20):
are going to bring Mack into his second contract, it's
going to cost the team thirty plus million dollars a
year if he's serviceable as a starter like Daniel Jones level,
and that's going to be a part of that timeline.
You missed it, like you missed the window to then
get that guy in there. So they have one more
year really because it's fifth yeer option is going to
be pricey, so.

Speaker 4 (01:53:42):
He has one more year, like they didn't do it. Like,
you know, you can talk about wanting to maximize a
rookie contract, but this is Mac year three now, and
you know, so at best, right, you're going to get
two years. I feel like that's builder. You're going to
pay him more.

Speaker 6 (01:53:56):
The guy that's building the team thinks that they are
maximizing it because they have all the depth, right, they
have all these guys, you know, they have all these
bodies everywhere that and he feels like that that that
that middle class that we used to hear so much about.
But in terms of adding that elite top end talent,
you know, we talk about the draft like that. They
have to do it through the draft because they're not
going to spend.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
For him, or they have to find a distressed asset
that they can get for a favorable deal, like you know,
like a Moss.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Or you know somebody who like a Kaishan Boody Hope,
so Ray writes in in Pennsylvania. The third band that
played with the Rolling Stones in Van Halen at the
Tangerine Bowl was.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
The Henry Paul Band.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
One of their most popular songs is gray Ghost, which
is dedicated to Lennet Skinner's Ronnie van zandt. I don't
remember that, but I'll take his word for it. Yeah,
I thought it was a more famous band, but.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
He looked it up. Yeah, yep. I just remember. It's
a great concert. David Lee Roth like prime, right, Yeah,
I mean this is the Panama and yeah, it was.
It was great Van Helen. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 (01:55:05):
I think it would have been before that, right, what
when you saw Van Halen? It was probably before Panama
and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
I I don't remember, yeah, I just I just I
know it was definitely the start me up tour for
the Stones. That's I have no doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:23):
I know that song.

Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
Yeah, that was like eighty one star.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
There might have been eighty one. That might have been
the year.

Speaker 5 (01:55:28):
Yeah, I think that would be before Panama.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Yeah was nineteen eighty four. No figure, Wait, what if.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
We David writes in New Hampshire, just wondering if there
are any thoughts on moving cold strange to tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
No, I haven't heard of any.

Speaker 6 (01:55:48):
This is this is in Malie Cunningham Territory for yeah,
just like, oh, like maybe we turned this guy into
a receiver and then he's a star, Like, no, he's
a guard.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
I think he's a guard.

Speaker 6 (01:56:02):
I'm not picking on the email or I have just this,
this theory has been floated. This is not a new
a New Patriots where these things floated in the Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
The blog is ready because read.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
And this is snarky Poul, but like in general, whenever
a guy doesn't immediately like hit a home run, it's
because he's in the wrong spot. It's not because maybe
he's not that good. It's because we need to play
him somewhere else. Yeah, it's like, you know, like Nikhil
Harry is a bust of a wide receiver. Three years

(01:56:36):
of let's move to tight end.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
If you can be a good tackle. You can be
a good guard. For the most part. It's like cornerback
safety like safety's cornerbacks can play safety.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
But if you're not a good corner, you're not going
to move from slaty safety where corner's going to die? Right?

Speaker 7 (01:56:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Question for Evan and Mike for each of the following
If the two of you had a head to head,
who would win a wrap off?

Speaker 4 (01:56:58):
Wrap off? You would win Evan like, Actually, I will
give Evan that one because Evan like younger.

Speaker 6 (01:57:06):
I might be I might have better flow than Mike,
but he's got the creative gene.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Then I don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
About how about a Star Wars off?

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Probably Mike, I'm older, Yeah, he and I've watched a
lot of stupid cartoon stuff with my kids. How about
Rock Paper Scissors? That's well that you know it's probably
me because that will be better with more scheme, And
you know I have a straight up game. I come
in with a game.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
About thumb wrestling. I don't know, like nice, either of
you played poker.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
And I have.

Speaker 6 (01:57:36):
I mean, I've played poker, but I wouldn't say yeah,
I wouldn't say I play poker.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Okay, so neither of you claim to be a good
poker player.

Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
About a foot race, like like running on that one?
Not even close? Are you fast?

Speaker 13 (01:57:50):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:57:50):
No, but I am very very slow.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
About who can take the hardest shoulder punch?

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
Shoulder punch?

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
This is a weird question. Cameras are running. We could
do that one right now.

Speaker 4 (01:58:02):
I never thought of that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
How about it just a dance dance out. He's very rhythmic,
and I'm not going to do the final one because
it's something off. But I can't say it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
Oh, I would just say that because because Alex Bart
took a turn standing next to us. There was a
video of Evan and Alex that what was it, Evan
like the Super Bowl Experience Super Bowl Experience where Evan
and Alex had like a foot race. I was in jeans.
I didn't stretch.

Speaker 6 (01:58:29):
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
I got that, I think, I replied. All I could
reply was Jesus, guys, I I am one of the
slowest people you've ever met.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Are you here for the Brian Moy Dave Grisoli sprint?
It was like three in the morning after a game.

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
I believe that was another one. I did play by
play on okay, Yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
Three cone drill, that's my dance. Great old camera that
that Dave said that we had for cyber I like
xcel R or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
Yeah, yeah it was white yeah, excel Yeah, yeah, good Paul.

Speaker 4 (01:59:04):
Yeah, I actually had the camera on for that and
was doing play.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
I think it was only pulled his hands, I believe it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:11):
Neither one of them was very How mad was Maury?
He must have just been fined, you know, how super serious?

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Oh, they were both really competitive.

Speaker 4 (01:59:18):
All right, that's going to be it for this edition
of Patriots Unfiltered.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
Stay tuned for Catch twenty two, a special Taylor Swift
edition with Evan and Alex Barth. So they're going to
talk about Taylor Swift for two hours. I'm only kidding,
but they'll be up next. We'll see you next week.

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