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It’s a special one—episode 100! In this celebratory and cozy episode, I take you behind the scenes of how Pattern Shift came to be, how it has evolved, and what I’ve learned over five years of podcasting. From awkward beginnings and unexpected pivots to heartfelt listener stories and slow growth reflections, this episode is full of gratitude, reflection, and a few eclairs.

If you’ve ever wondered how a small podcast like this gets made—and what keeps it going—this one’s for you.

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“I wanted to make a podcast that actually helps people… and I felt like interviews with famous knitters is great and entertaining and also can be very helpful… but there were already podcasts doing that.” 

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Oh my gosh, I can't believe it.
I can't believe I got here 100produced episodes of my podcast.
It was called A Smaller LifeBefore.
It's called Pattern Shift Now,but the fact of the matter is I
managed to get 100 episodes outthere.

(00:24):
I'm so excited to celebratethis with you.
It's just going to be a verychill celebrational episode.
Have fun.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey and welcome to Pattern Shift, the podcast for
fiber-loving business ownersshaping a slower, more
sustainable world.
I'm Saskia, a creative businesscoach and support guide for
makers, teachers, designers andindie shop owners in the needle
and fiber arts.
I help you way, find your nextstep, organize your business to
fit your life and launch ideaswith joy and action.

(00:56):
Let's untangle the yucky bitslike branding, marketing and
sales and build somethingsustainable, soulful and truly
you.
So grab your favorite brew tea,coffee or, you know,
brujhlarich and let's shift thepattern one stitch at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
So it's wild 100 episodes together, you and me
whether you've been listeningsince the very first episode,
any of you out there.
Is there anyone who haslistened to all the episodes?
I'm so curious.
Please let me know.
Perhaps this is the first everepisode for you.

(01:36):
It's going to be a little bitdifferent, so you can either
hang in here and celebrate withme, with us, or go to another
episode that's more like regular.
I'm gonna kind of wing it.
I've written down some things.
I am just so grateful thatyou've been part of this

(01:58):
creative journey.
It's awesome.
So I wanted to start out bythanking you to just say how
amazing it is to know thatyou've been here listening, or
you are here now listening, andI know that my podcast is is.

(02:38):
It's not tiny, it does well,but it's also not a big podcast.
But if I imagine the size ofthe room where the stage is and
how many people fit in there andhow many people are listening,
and then imagining myself onthat stage for that amount of

(03:01):
people is just really giving mestage fright.
And the great thing aboutpodcasting is you don't need to
have stage fright becausethere's actually no stage.
Well, there is, but I cannotsee all of you, which is great,
but it's also it can get reallylonely sometimes because you

(03:26):
don't get direct feedback butalso not a lot of emails, like I
would have thought more peoplewould be interested in, I don't
know reaching out, askingquestions, saying things like
having feedback positive ornegative but surprisingly that

(03:49):
doesn't really happen.
And when it happens, peoplewill say things like I didn't
want to bother you because Iimagine you have so many emails
to answer.
Well, people I keep saying Idon't and I don't.
I'm not ashamed of it, I justwant to.
I want to really ask you to dothat kind of thing, cause I mean

(04:12):
, if you're listening and I'mmaking this, we have a
connection.
So you are welcome in mymailbox, just putting it out
there.
So thank you so much for beinghere and I've been thinking I
should have perhaps mayberecorded this on video and made

(04:32):
a YouTube video about it, butI'm not ready.
I'm not ready.
It feels so cozy just to behere in front of my computer
with my mic and I can tell youafter a 100 episodes it doesn't
feel that weird anymore.
It did in the beginning.
Oh my God, like the first, Idon't know, the first 20

(04:55):
something episodes.
I felt so weird just talkinginto air, into nothing.
I don't feel that weird anymore.
It kind of feels natural now.
So all that just to say thatall these things that are weird
at first can become natural.
It's a muscle you flex.

(05:15):
You just practice, practice,practice and you get better at
it.
I don't ever listen back to myepisode unless I do the editing.
So I record and then, if I havetime, I edit it right away.
For some reason.
That's not annoying becauseit's very technical.

(05:38):
I just decide which ums toleave, which ums to cut out,
which double takes to cut out,which weird jokes to leave in,
and yeah, it's a kind of itdoesn't feel weird.
But it does feel weird to me togo and casually listen back to

(06:00):
an old episode.
I don't do that at all, so Ihave no idea what they would
sound like and if they're anydifferent.
If I've grown as a podcaster, Ihave no idea.
So yeah, wow, I just want tomake this episode I don't know

(06:22):
cozy.
So I guess I'm just going tosit, sit nice and comfortable,
and I'm going to ask you to dothe same.
So I hope you have something inyour hands.
Okay, that was weird.
I hope you have a nice drinkand maybe a light snack, or
maybe not so light snack.

(06:43):
Maybe you have a I don't knowan eclair.
I love eclairs, they're myfavorite.
But, I want the like, theBelgian ones, the ones with the
yellow, like yellow filling Okay, drifting off Eclairs.
So I hope you have, you'recomfortable and you have a
project that you're working on,or perhaps you're on your way

(07:06):
into work or you're folding yourlaundry.
Let's just imagine that you andI are in a cafe and we're
hanging out and we're chattingand I basically do all this
hockey about my podcast.
Is that weird?
No, it's not.
I mean, it's been five years,five years of podcasting.

(07:29):
I thought I'd just give it a goand see where it went and I
thought it would be a reallygood way to connect to people
and to find new people and,honestly, in the beginning I
thought it was the best top of afunnel you could have, if you

(07:49):
don't want to be on social media, of course.
Then I found out that a podcastisn't the top of a funnel and
if you don't know what a funnelis, it's the way you set up your
business and like a drip downfilter coffee, people come in at
the top and then they drip downinto your products and

(08:11):
eventually they'll become aclient from falling into the
coffee filter.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah funnel.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
So a podcast isn't a great top of a funnel because
people need to find you and nota lot of people really search
for specific podcasts.
I do sometimes.
I actually do that quite a lotLike my search engines are
podcasts, youtube, yeah, ofcourse, good old Google.

(08:41):
Well, old Google Was that mystomach?
That's because I'm thinking ofthe eclairs.
So I found out that the podcastdoesn't really bring in more
people.
Consistency kind of does in away, because people will talk
about it, share it with otherpeople, and then it grows.

(09:07):
And my podcast has been veryconsistent, like super
consistent, and I haven't beenstressed out about growing it a
lot because it was always goingto be part of my marketing mix.
So I only for a brief momentthought I would be able to make

(09:30):
some money with it, to at leastpay for the cost.
But that really didn't work outbecause I felt really
uncomfortable by the idea ofsponsors and I thought I liked
it.
But then I didn't.
And then I really looked atwhat I wanted to do, what I

(09:50):
wanted the podcast to feel like,and I listened to other
podcasts and then they startedto promote things and stuff that
didn't have anything to do withthem and then some people
promote things that did havesomething to do with them.
But that was a lot and it justnever felt right for me to do it
that way.
So I guess the biggest changehas been that I went from

(10:17):
interviewing people in theindustry to sharing parts of
what I do and teach in mycommunity.
That was a really consciousdecision.
At some point I really justwanted to get information out

(10:39):
there, to be making a podcastthat actually helps people, and
I felt like interviews withfamous knitters is great and
entertaining and also can bevery helpful if you talk to them
about their business, and ithas really proven to be, in a

(11:00):
way.
But there were already podcastsdoing that, youtube channels
doing that, and I was thinkingabout people that couldn't
afford my program and stillwanted to learn, and that's when
I decided I'm just going to usemy podcast as the light version

(11:25):
of the paid for stuff that Ioffer, and some of it is the
same and some of it is ultralight version, and we go in
deeper, of course, in ourcommunity memberships and in our
program.
I say our, but, yeah, our,because we're a community.

(11:46):
When I say we, I mean ourcommunity, not the Yevvel team,
because that's basically me andKathleen who's really helpful in
the community.
Kathleen, shout out to you, Idon't do that enough.
Thank you, kathleen, you'vebeen amazing.
And while I'm talking aboutthat because this is hardly
scripted I've got some notes,but I'm basically just talking.

(12:10):
I just wanted to say that Iused to.
I started doing this by myselflike super clunky, and then I
thought, oh, I'm a growingbusiness.
Then I thought, oh, I'm agrowing business, I need help.
And I found Alison and weworked together for a while.

(12:30):
She was the editor and then dida bit of production work as
well, but in the end it wassometimes hard to match calendar
.
She was somewhere else in theworld sometimes in the
Netherlands, sometimes not andit wasn't flowy enough for me
and so I decided to go back toit myself.

(12:50):
Then I found another editor whohad really great pricing,
lovely person as well, andworked with him for a while and
then his prices went up likecrazy.
Worked with him for a while andthen his prices went up like
crazy.
Totally up to him, of course,but then also totally up to me

(13:16):
to say, oh, that's no, no, thankyou.
So I went back to doing itmyself again and it was actually
really great because it was agood lesson and good enough.
It was a good lesson in goodenough Because I'll either go
like splitting ends being super,super perfectionistic about it

(13:36):
or I'll go very lightly and say,okay, it just needs to go live
and it needs to have some pointand that's good enough.
So, of course, with these days,I basically use AI as my
assistant Makes me feel bad in away, because of the people I

(13:58):
used to pay to help me.
Oh, and then of course, therewas Teresa Teresa.
I say it weird, teresa, teresaTeresa.
I say it weird, teresa TeresaTeresa why can I say that?
Who was more of a VA to me?
She did different things butalso focused on the podcast

(14:19):
production type things, things,and when the business had a
little dip, I thought, oh,better just keep the budget as
tight as I can and back to meagain.
So learned a lot about that andit felt very I don't know like

(14:41):
I was an actual content creatorwith editors and VAs, and I
actually kind of liked sayingthat I had that kind of help.
But in reality, the way my mindworks and the way my days are
and the way I do things.
I really love to go with my ownflow and I have the opportunity

(15:07):
to do so because I work formyself, and when you work with
somebody else, there's two flowsand I kind of love the luxury
of going with my own flow morethan the luxury of somebody
doing things for me.
And part of the editing and theproduction stuff was I wanted

(15:33):
somebody else to do it becauseit was boring.
It was so boring, but now withAI it's so much easier.
And I think three episodes agoI talked about how I work with
AI.
Now, to keep it, to keep it liketransparent and authentic, is

(15:56):
to first work on some topics andsome bullet points and then,
with those bullet points, I goin and write a blog.
With that blog that's fully inmy wording.
I then feed that back into AIto come up with a script.
So it's my words, but it's justleaner and less chaotic.

(16:19):
And then I sprinkle some chaoswhile I'm reading the script,
and the great thing aboutreading a script is that there's
so much less double takes andums because I'm just reading it.
The only editing that Iactually have to do is the parts

(16:45):
where I just freestyle it, andthere's plenty freestyling there
anyway.
But yeah, that's kind of how Ievolved from working together
with people to back to me,working together back to me and
at this moment, I really likejust having to have me in my

(17:08):
head to think about, because Idon't want to disappoint people,
I don't want to say I didn'tfinish it, because and that's
all extra energy, extra work andI really like it extra energy,
extra work and I really like itthe way it's going right now.

(17:29):
But it can be quite lonely andI'm so lucky to have the people
in the Yevvel community.
Yeah, that's just the bestthing that's come out of all of
the shift from my yarn shop todoing this is a group of people
that we have.
It's just fun and it makessense, and we have silly things

(17:51):
and serious things and practical, and yeah, it's lovely.
And, as I said, kathleen doesour craft circle and that's
amazing because at night I don'thave much energy anymore and so
she organizes the craft circleonline and I can then just drop

(18:12):
in and be, which is amazing.
So thank you, kathy.
So, yeah, let's get talk alittle bit about how it all
started.
I also I already talked aboutit, but I got it written down
here.
So back to that.
So Patents Shift actuallyevolved out of my first podcast,

(18:33):
a Smaller Life.
Back then there were two thingsI loved talking to makers and
small business owners and Ibelieved there had to be a more
human, joyful and sustainableway to run a business, and
actually that idea is still atthe heart of everything we do

(18:55):
with Yeovil and the Yeovilcommunity.
It's about living a life thatis true to you, that doesn't
burn you out, that brings youjoy and also takes into account
what's important to you, so yourvalues and then reflecting that

(19:15):
back to your clients and kindof shaping a better world.
Like it's a big dream, talkingabout big dreams.
When I started a smaller life,I had started also the community
and at first the community wasaimed at two main groups.

(19:35):
Well, actually the very, verybeginning, I built the online
community for my actualcommunity.
That came with my yarn shop.
But COVID happened and weneeded to move online.
So there were, like in thebeginning, hundreds of people
there.
It was free.
Then after a while I thought,okay, I need to pay for this, so

(20:00):
I don't have a shop anymore, soI'm going to ask for a small
amount.
Lots of people left, which wasreally hard for me, because I
thought, oh, I helped a lot ofyou so much in the shop.
I spent so much time almostteaching while I was selling
yarn.
It was my heart and soul and Ipoured it into everything and I

(20:25):
was really disappointed by that.
But it got worse.
So then I started learningabout communities and I thought,
okay, this could be like thecommunity itself could be a
business model for me.
I can do workshops here, I cando different things and people

(20:45):
pay for me.
I can do workshops here, I cando different things and people
pay for it.
And this is going to be what Ido, using all the experience
that I have as a craft teacher,a needle craft teacher and a
business owner, and it's goingto be amazing and glorious.
And then I upped the price and,of course, more people left.
And then I with the podcast.

(21:06):
When I realized that not a lotof new people would come in
through the podcast, I needed tobe on social media, but I had
also decided I never socialmedia and me I don't know.
I've talked about it so much,I'm not going to do it again.
If you want to learn more, justscroll the list of episodes and

(21:27):
you'll find enough that areabout that subject, and I
decided to step away from it,and so the podcast was solely
responsible for bringing in newpeople into the community.

(21:52):
I also started to realize thatit would be really hard for me
to build the ultimate dream thatI had a place where makers and
sellers come together.
A place where makers andsellers come together, where the
sellers could have a directcontact with a small group of
makers and the other way around,so they could work

(22:14):
simultaneously to build anindustry that was based on
values and inclusivity andsustainability and the whole
idea that so many and I'mtalking specifically knitters,
because that is the specificpart that I come from in this

(22:37):
industry so many knitters knitthe next cool thing with the
next cool yarn and don'tparticularly think about how
their hobby, the thing that theylove doing, could actually step
into the whole problem of fastfashion.

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So they can start making thingsthat they need instead of
making things that they justwant.
So you can make what you needand want it at the same time,
right, and you can make it funand make it with amazing yarns
and amazing patterns.
So that was kind of where Iwanted to go with all of that,

(23:19):
like bringing everybody together, and I saw this community of
workshops, in craft workshops,in business but I was just one
person and I couldn't do it all.
I couldn't focus and give mybest self to all of it.
So recently not that recently,though, it was a gentle shift it

(23:44):
was really gentle, but Ishifted more into the business
owners and focusing on bringingthem in community, especially
because a lot of them have toreinvent the wheel.
Every single time I can seebusinesses starting struggling.
I talk to them so I know andthey could have known all these

(24:09):
things if they would talk toother business owners with more
experience.
So that doesn't really happen,except for, perhaps, festivals
and markets, but not everybodyattends those and often you're
just too tired and too exhaustedand too busy to have actual

(24:32):
deeper conversations aboutthings.
And so I focused on thebusiness side and the business
owner as a person how to growtheir business with them in mind
and build a course with thehelp of some trusted business
owners who are still most ofthem still are with me, which is

(24:53):
great.
And so now I'm slowly growingout this part of the business,
working on slow and mindful waysof marketing, which includes
visiting markets, talking topeople one-on-one and sometimes
I turn those conversations intoa podcast, with their knowing of

(25:18):
course and building therelationships from there.
So a constantly evolving thing,with the latest thing that now
is happening is me working tobecome a coach, and that is
because I've started to noticethat sometimes, especially

(25:43):
creative people are so full ofideas that they just need to
talk it through and filter itand find their way into
everything that's going on intheir minds.
Sometimes you need a teacher,sometimes you need a consultant
who just tells you what to doand how to do it, advises you,

(26:05):
but sometimes you just reallyneed somebody to listen and help
you figure it out.
So I thought that is a greattool to add to my toolkit or not
really a tool, a skill.
And from that, from knowing thatI am a marketer, a branding

(26:26):
specialist, a strategist oh Goda teacher, a mentor, a
consultant so many hats I canstart a hat shop.
Oh no, I've done the shop thingbut I've got a lot of hats.
So I started to call myself asupport professional, because I

(26:47):
am in the profession ofsupporting and I can do that in
very different ways.
I've got a whole bunch of skillsets to help with that and a
whole bunch of tools to sharewith people.
So I just basically want ourindustry to flourish.
I would love a world wherecreatives are more intentional

(27:13):
about what they create forthemselves and think about fast
fashion versus slow fashion, andI want to be a part of that and
I can be a part of that becauseI have the skills, I have the
drive, have the knowledge and Ilive the kind of life where I

(27:36):
can be at home and pour myenergy into this.
So, yeah, that's a little bitabout that.
Back to the podcast.
So I took some notes to sharewith you some lessons that I've
learned from 100 episodes, and Iguess I already shared a bunch.

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But let's just go through mynotes.
One of the biggest things I'venoticed is that when you talk
about growth, it's really easyto listen to podcasts very meta
or YouTube channels andself-help books and stuff and

(28:17):
get the idea that you can changethings just like that.
Put in the energy, do the workand things are changed.
But people forget that we havelives that are much more complex
than just our business.
A lot of us have caregivingroles in one way or another, or

(28:40):
we struggle with chronicillnesses.
It can be really hard if you'reneurodivergent.
All these things make it sothat a quick change is something
that isn't realistic for a lotof us.
So with the podcast as well,the growing happens one episode

(29:05):
at a time, and not necessarilytalking about growing in terms
of getting more listeners, butgrowing as a content maker,
which I don't really.
I don't think of myself as that.
The podcast, as I said, is atool for me to communicate to my

(29:26):
audience, so it's more of acommunication tool, marketing
tool.
Even I am not making moneydoing this, like not a cent.
It's costing me money, but I dohave to grow as a content
creator, as a maker myself, as acontent creator, as a maker
myself, because every singletime I show up I kind of want to

(29:55):
grow.
It's embedded into people.
It's who we are as a species.
We want to do better, and sosometimes it takes a little bit
of being brave.
In the beginning it was justgoing out there and asking
people to come on the show.
Sometimes it was reallynerve-wracking.
A lot of the time also, I justtalked to people that I knew
from having had the yarn shop,people that I've met during

(30:20):
festivals.
You just connect over all theyears, you make friends, and
that was really amazing, and Ididn't stop because I ran out of
friends.
It was a conscious choice, as Isaid before, because I wanted
to make a version of what Ioffer in my program.

(30:40):
But you grow by doing things,by putting yourself out there,
by being brave, one episodeafter another, and of course, I
have all these thoughts in myhead.
What will they think when I saythis?
Is it too chaotic?
And lately, how do I do?

(31:02):
I sound very differently nowthat I have more scripted
episodes.
Do they really miss theinterviews with the people?
As I said, the podcast has beenreally steady, and you could
say it's been shrinking notnecessarily in the amount of
downloads and listeners that hasstayed the same, but normally I

(31:27):
would say that would grow butbecause I kind of cut out the
interviews, that was immediatelynoticeable in the amount of
downloads, but I haven't goneback because I still believe
that this is how I want to usethe podcast.
Perhaps I'll do an interviewhere and there, but the thing is
, I really, really want to besuper honest with people and

(31:51):
almost get into some sort of acoaching conversation with them
where they can be vulnerable andsharing things, and something
like that has to naturallyhappen in a way, because if
you're going to send an email orcall somebody and say listen,

(32:11):
do you want to come on thepodcast and be super, really
open and vulnerable.
That doesn't really work.
The amazing thing, though, isthe best episode with the most
downloads, with the most listens, is the interview I did with
Melody Hoffman, bemangerance,and she was that.
She was so open, so honest, andthat was such an amazing

(32:35):
conversation.
Yeah, if I knew that I couldhave that kind of conversation.
Every time, I would go back intointerviewing, but I also don't
want to put people on the spot.
I've thought about going to theedge of things, like
interviewing people who I knoware a little bit criticized for

(33:00):
their high prices or for, Idon't know, working with some
sort of brand or doing somethingor not doing something, and
people talk about it, andthere's part of me that really
wants to go there, but thenthere's also the part of me that
really just wants to offersomething that is actually super

(33:21):
helpful, practical, valuable,something that you can
immediately do something with.
So that's how I landed on thehelpful type podcasts.
But give me feedback if youwant something different.
And a whole bunch of you aresaying the same thing, that
means that I got to listen.
A whole bunch of you are sayingthe same thing.

(33:42):
That means that I got to listen.
Well, no, but you know a littlebit.
Another lesson I learned is andit can get really boring to
listen to these words comingback, back back but values, I
think sustainability,inclusiveness, openness,
creativity, all these things,curiosity this is what drives me

(34:04):
and this is the only way that Ican do my job and I can keep
doing it without burning out orwithout getting bored out of my
mind.
It has to be close to me, soit's naturally going to be a
topic in my episodes, becausethat's what I do.

(34:25):
I talk about how you build abusiness that connects to who
you are.
So there you go.
Another lesson is that, howevermuch I enjoy making a podcast
and however much I love workingfrom home and I need time by

(34:45):
myself Working alone can bereally lonely, and so the
community has been, yeah, thereason for going on.
Because if I didn't have thecommunity, if I was just talking
to like a void, I wouldn't beable to do this.

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Because they tell me that whatI do is helping them.
I can see them progress intheir business.
I can hear them saying thingslike I actually enjoy writing my
newsletter now and that's why Ido it.
So if I didn't have that, Iwouldn't be doing this.
And the other lesson is that beawkward, be weird, be playful.

(35:34):
It's yeah, it's my strength,it's who I am.
It's hopefully not asdestruction to you.
It's my strength, it's who I am.
It's hopefully not adistraction to you.
If I can be myself, then I cankeep going.
So what does it look likebehind the scenes when I record
a podcast?
I'm in.
I'm going to try and describewhat I'm seeing.

(35:56):
Right now.
I am in Rotterdam, in theNetherlands.
Rotterdam is a big port city,bombed in the war.
Very much a blue-collar,working-class mentality, like
we're getting to work, but alsoa great sense of humor,

(36:17):
directness.
That's kind of the city I'm inNow.
I live in an area with newlybuilt buildings and I'm right
now on the oh let me count onthe second floor, in my workroom
, which could be called a studio, an office space.

(36:39):
It's also the oh, that's twoalsos.
It's also the guest room.
I have an air-cold daybed.
For those of you who know whatthat is, it's a mid-century
couch that doubles as a bed,which is great, and I have a
mid-century desk here.
But my computer is actually onone of those IKEA tables that

(37:05):
can completely fold down, thathas the drawers in the middle.
It also holds my serger and mysewing machine and, at this
moment, three water bottles.
I don't know why I have threeand three water bottles.
I don't know why I have threeand some hand cream because I
get dry hands.
A Martha Beck book for mycoaching study.

(37:26):
Of course I have my microphonein front of me.
I'm wearing my headphones, I'vegot my bullet journal, of
course, and my three favoritefountain pens.
In a case I'm going to stop somany things here.
To the left of me, of course,writer Carol's book, the Bullet

(37:46):
Journal Method, and a wholestack of bullet journals that
are full, and a bookcase thatholds my coaching books and
loads and loads and loads ofpatent books and other stuff.
So I've got two desks One is myrecording desk and the
mid-century desk.
I have moved the computer awayfrom that because I love to

(38:11):
journal and write, although Idon't do enough writing.
That kind of gives me a goodvibe to do that.
So it just feels better to beusing a fountain pen and a
journal on a mid-century task.
I don't know, I'm weird that way.
What else behind the scenes?

(38:32):
Yeah, I've done some weirdthings.
We went to the Faroese Islandsand I recorded on the road.
I've recorded during festivalsand I've done everything out of
my head in the moment because Iforgot I had to do a podcast,
just winging it all the way andmeticulously writing scripts.

(38:55):
I've done that as well.
Done that as well.
I usually am fully dressed whenI record an episode, but
sometimes it's not reallyattractive Not that I need to be
, but you know it can be likesweats.
But I try to dress for the jobI want, not the job that I have,

(39:18):
although I love my job.
So I don't really want anotherjob.
But you know, that's what theysay.
You kind of dress up forshowing up for people, even
though if they don't see you.
So I'm wearing a Lucieniacoveralls in green, my hand-knit
purple pink socks and woolslippers.

(39:39):
I love wearing slippers.
I always wear slippers aroundthe house and I've got fresh cut
bangs today and makeup becauseI needed to go out, and then I
always do that.
So, yeah, not much drama.
Honestly, I changed my mic once, like in five years.

(40:00):
I upped my game a little bitand got a better mic, which,
like in retrospective, I don'tknow if I really needed it, but
I felt like I did at the time.
And, yeah, no other weirdthings.
Of course, there's beenneighbors that decided that they

(40:20):
wanted to drill into the wallwhen I was recording and I send
them a text and can you wait 30minutes?
I'm almost done and like okay,and that was that.
So no real behind the scenedrama other than sometimes this
room is a mess and sometimesit's not drama, other than

(40:45):
sometimes this room is a messand sometimes it's not.
So, looking ahead with thispodcast, I don't really make
specific plans.
I'm just happy to get a newepisode out every time that
people are expecting one.
The last one didn't go live.
I don't know what happened.
I just checked and it didn't golive.
So I sent out the email and Igot the show notes and

(41:06):
everything was done in live, butthe actual episode on the
platform it didn't go live andnobody told me.
I didn't know.
But it's live now.
So there's a little bit of itfeels perhaps like a little bit
of extra during the week, and sothere's not much planning.

(41:27):
I would love to do some coaching, I guess, on the podcast.
At some point when I feel likeI'm ready to do that and when I
can find people that actuallywant to do that with me, that
would be really cool.
Other than that, I'm just goingto keep sharing what I know and
hopefully inspiring people tothink about things a little bit

(41:52):
differently than they wouldotherwise, to just push them
away from doing what everybodyelse is doing, because you need
to be doing what you want andyou can and you are made to be
doing.
So that's hopefully what I cando in the future.
So I would say here's toanother hundred episodes.

(42:15):
Let's see where we go.
I just want to invite youfinally, at the end of this
episode, to get into touch withme.
If this podcast has ever madeyou think, smile or scribble a
note or feel a little bit lessalone in what you're doing, I
would love it if you wouldcelebrate that with me.

(42:38):
You could do multiple things.
I love getting emails from you,but leaving a review would be
really amazing.
What would happen if all of you, like gave me some stars, left
me a review, actually taking aminute out to type something?
What would that do for thepodcast?

(42:59):
That would be really coolbecause in the end, more people
will see it on the differentpodcast platforms.
So that does really help.
I don't ask for that enough andI should, because I do a lot of
work, and it would be reallynice if you would do that for
the 100th episode as a littlegift.

(43:20):
Leave a review, do some starsfor me, send me a message or at
least share it with a friend,and so that we can grow and we
can find more people and I canhelp more people with the other
services and things that I offerto support our industry.
Because that's what I dream ofa healthy, happy industry and

(43:44):
less of fat fashion, no more fatfashion and a lot of slow
fashion.
So if you want to keep thisconversation going, you are
warmly invited to the Yavelcommunity and with that, you
also support the podcast.
We are a very cozy fibervillage on the internet and I'd

(44:04):
love to see you there and be indaily touch with you, because
I'm there all day, every day.
So I'd love to see you there.
So here's to the first 100episodes, to imperfection, to
playfulness, to purpose, here'sto all the yarns we've spun
together and apart, to theweaving we did, the knitting we

(44:25):
did, and to whatever comes next.
Cheers, friend, and thank you.
Thank you so much for beinghere and don't be stranger sorry
, I can't leave withoutmentioning someone.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
When I was listening to this, I felt like something
was missing and I have to say.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I started the episode with this, wondering how many
of you have followed me from thebeginning.
And there is at least oneperson that I know of that has
been there from the very, verystart 17 years ago, 18 years, no
, actually much longer.
It must've been like 20 yearsago it was before I even had Sky

(45:09):
and that is Herma.
She's been following me sincethe very, very beginning and I
just wanted to give her aspecial shout out because
through the years she's alwaysbeen so lovely, so supportive,
and we didn't talk much.
I met her a couple of times andI wouldn't say that we became

(45:34):
close friends, but she has sucha special place in my heart.
I needed to pause for a minutethere because I became emotional
.
It's very special to feel thesupport and I just want to say
thank you for that, herma, youknow who you are.

(45:56):
I don't need to say your lastname, wishing you everything you
wish for and live your bestlife.
Thank you for being with me,alongside me and following me on
this weird journey.
And there's more of you, ofcourse.
There's more of you.
I just wanted to give a name tothose people who have followed

(46:22):
me from the beginning and, for afact, I know Herma is
definitely one of them, becauseshe reaches out to me every now
and then and I just love that.
All right, I'm going to stop itnow because I'm going to be
really emotional.
This is a joyful episode.
Thank you, all of you whostepped in onto this path with

(46:42):
me, whether this is your firstepisode or whether you have been
with me for almost 20 years,from my first blog that was
called Sauce Knits it Again, anacronym of my name, and a little
wink to Brittany, if you don'tknow who Brittany is well.
To Brittany, if you don't knowwho Brittany is well.

(47:04):
Anyways, I'm going to celebratenow and I'm recording this when
I'm editing this episode, and Iknow how I'm going to celebrate
.
I asked my youngest to go withme to the Dutch pen show because
I love fountain pens and inks.
I love fountain pens and inksand it's like the second love I
have, next to fibers, yarns,things like that.

(47:31):
And I'm on a no buy year, butI'm also turning 50 and I'm
celebrating this, so I'm justgoing to be.
What's the point in like, notfeeling good or what's the point
in not being able to celebrate?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I mean, I know you can celebrate without buying
something, but this is somethingI can do with my daughter and
she's a teenager and it's notthat easy to find something that
we both enjoy and she's alsoreally into stationery, so I
just went ahead and got myselfsome tickets for Sunday.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
So if you're there as well, if you're like me, then
come find me, All right.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I'm going to go now and I'll meet you again in
episode 101.
Bye.

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