March 18, 2024 • 34 mins
Have you ever stood at a crossroads, the weight of decisions pressing against your chest? That's where I found myself, the mic cold in my hand and a heart full of doubt. This week's episode strips back the curtain on the inner turmoil that haunts even the most dedicated podcast hosts and people, period. As I wrestled with the thoughts of hanging up the mic after 60 episodes, I bring you along on my raw and turbulent journey, sharing the trials of fluctuating listener numbers and the sting of comparison that plague even the most inspiring voices.
The path ahead may be cloaked in shadow, but together we search for the light, hunting down the lost sparks of motivation and fanning them back to life. I confront the siren call of quitting, dissecting its many faces—burnout, impostor syndrome, and the murky waters of self-doubt. It's a conversation that bridges the gap between host and listener, as we face down adversity and rekindle the flames of passion and purpose.
Packed with wisdom about perseverance, motivation, and the search for joy in the process, this episode is a raw look at the realities behind the microphone. What inspires YOU to stay the course when you feel like quitting? Your feedback is more than welcome; it's desired. So, dive into this episode, and share your thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this episode of the pep talk podcast.
We're talking about quitting,specifically me quitting.
But before we get to that, Ihave a question for you.
Have you had your dose of peptoday?
No, don't worry, I've got you.
Now let's get into it.
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Welcome to the pep talk podcast,the podcast that cheers you on
and coaches you up.
We believe that you're great,we believe that you are destined
for greatness.
You are living a life ofpurpose, on purpose, with
purpose.
But as great as you are,there's still another level that
you can aspire to.
There's still more within youto dig into and to pull out.
That's why we say that ourmission is to cheer you on,
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because everybody needs acheerleader, but we also want to
coach you up, because everybodyneeds a coach, someone who can
come in with a differentperspective, someone who can
speak with an unbiased viewpointon the way that things are
going in our lives, anddifferent perspectives that can
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help us achieve the greatnessthat sometimes lies dormant
within us.
And that's what we try to doevery Monday and the last two
weeks, also on Wednesdays, I'vegiven some bonus episodes the
last two Wednesdays, which havejust been some things that have
been percolating on my mind, andI call them pet bites, and they
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will be intermittent.
Let's say that they won't beregular by any means, but as
long as I have something midweekthat's burning in me, then I
definitely want to keep droppingthose episodes.
So, please, let me know how youlike them.
Continue, please, leaving yourratings and your reviews.
Listen, if you leave a reviewon the podcast, I will give you
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a shout out on the subsequentpodcast episode.
I will give you a shout out.
I will read your reviewverbatim as a thank you.
And so, hey, just subscribe,tell your friends, tell your
family to subscribe, because wereally do believe in the mission
of this podcast and the visionbehind it.
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But even with all of that said,even with all of the belief in
the mission and in the visionthat I have in this podcast, I I
felt the need to be honest withall of you listeners out there.
And I'm going to be honest notbecause I want to win brownie
points or, you know, empathy orsympathy, because none, none,
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none of that.
But I do believe.
I do believe that I never wantto come across as somebody who
has it all together, even thoughI come on to this podcast week
by week and I'm offeringsolutions for all kinds of
things.
The last few weeks we've beentalking to men about choosing
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intentional manhood and I'malmost done with that series.
But I felt like this, thismessage needed to take precedent
, because I need to speak toboth my brothers and my sisters
and I need to use myself as thebackdrop, as the canvas, because
, man, this week, maybe the lasttwo weeks, it's been really,
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really, really hard maintainingthe motivation and the pep
that's necessary to beconsistent with this podcast.
Y'all.
I thought about quitting, Ireally thought about quitting
and, at the very least, Ithought about and I'm thinking
about maybe it's time to wrap upseason two and take a little
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break to prepare and revamp forseason three.
And I'm going to be honest,because I feel like it can help
someone, that Even being 60episodes in this is going to be
episode 61 overall.
There were 28 episodes in seasonone.
There have been 32 episodes inseason two so far.
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So this will be episode 33 andoverall episode 61, 61 episodes.
And we have seen highs, we'veseen lows.
We started out with alistenership of I remember the
teaser that I posted got 50listens.
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The first episode got 100listens and then, you know, as
things started happening, wewould alternate between 20, 25,
30 listeners.
Then, toward the end of lastyear, something happened.
We had a spike where we wentfrom 35 listeners to 70
listeners, to 80, to 90, to 100listeners I think.
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We had a high of 120 listenerson a single episode.
And then the number started todwindle back down.
And I know I say all the time, Isay all the time that it's not
about the downloads, it's notabout the listens, it's about
the one person who needs to hearthe message.
And then that is still the case.
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But again, being a human being,the human that I am, and
continually watching theanalytics, tell me that
something is not hitting rightwith the audience.
And you know being in spaceswhere podcasters who were just
starting out are hitting massivenumbers and are getting all
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types of engagement andinteraction with the comment
that comes off of their podcasts.
I know it doesn't matter, butin the part of me who does this
because I want to change lives,it does matter and I can admit
that, even as I tell you, evenas I tell you that doing this
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podcast is some of the mostmeaningful work that I think I
do in my life and because it'sso meaningful to me, I believe
that I can come on here and Ican tell you that I really
thought about quitting because Ididn't realize I didn't, I
didn't fully count the cost whenI came in to doing this.
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I just knew that I had a message.
I just knew that there werepeople who needed to hear this
message and that I feltresponsible for using my voice
right and to build a platform,because nobody's going to give
me a platform.
So I said let me build myself aplatform out of duct tape and
cardboard, right.
Let's get this Yeti snowballmic that is not well thought of
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in the podcasting community.
Let me get me some inexpensiveheadphones off of Amazon and
let's press play and see whathappens.
And even in the midst of all ofthat the excitement, the
motivational aspect of it, themindset work, with me getting on
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talking about the things thatI've done to correct some
mindset things that I had goingon, the shifts that I've had to
make to get to this point in mylife, y'all I'm sitting with
myself and I'm like maybe thispodcast does not need to
continue.
That's tough, because I canstand by a statement that I made
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earlier on this season thatthis will be a ranked podcast.
It's going to be a recommendedpodcast on Apple.
I still believe that.
But there are these pockets ofmoments in the midst of the
process and in the midst of theprogress, no matter what we're
doing, no matter how we'reworking, where, when we're not
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seeing the results that we thinkthat we should be seeing, then
we really begin to wonder.
The thoughts begin to set in isanybody actually listening or
are they just bots?
So and so has a community ofsupporters who are supporting
them on Patreon, and they'remaking bonus episodes and giving
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them to only subscribers.
And on one hand, I'm clappinglike you go, you go, but on the
other hand, I'm like I don'twant to charge anybody for this.
I just want to know that peopleare listening and that it's
helping.
And again, I'm being completelyhonest, the human part of me
this week I even talked to mywife about it was just about the
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fact of do I really want tokeep doing this?
And it's not because it's hardwork.
No, it's not because you knowit takes me 40 hours per week to
prepare the content.
No, it's none of that.
It doesn't take me 40 hours perweek.
I read up on stuff.
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I don't jot down notes, I justcome on and I record what's on
my heart.
I pray before each episode andI just hit record and then
whatever comes out is what Ibelieve needs to come out to
help the one person out therewho needs to hear the message,
or the two people who need tohear the message.
But sometimes quitting becomes avery attractive option when
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you're not seeing the resultsthat you want to see.
I mean, let's talk about it.
Beginning of the yearresolutions I want to lose
weight, let's go to the gym.
Okay, let's go to the gym Afterone day.
I don't see any.
I don't see any evidence, butI'm just sore, it hurts.
So instead of going every daynow, I'm going to go every other
day and then after two weeks Istill don't see any progress.
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Quitting becomes an option.
Right when I start that newdiet oh my gosh, I'm not losing
weight and I'm hungry all thetime.
What in the world?
Quitting becomes an option.
It becomes really, reallyattractive in relationships when
you know there's somebody thatyou like and they don't like you
back.
And you keep pouring, you knowyou keep trying with the flowers
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and they hey, let's go hang out, nothing's happening.
Quitting becomes an attractiveoption and we get to a point
where, if we're honest, if we'rehonest and here's the thing
that I don't often hear talkedabout in the motivational videos
what do you do when your beliefin yourself has been
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extinguished and you no longerhave that inner drive, that
inner fuel to continue pressingforward toward that mark, toward
that purpose, toward that goal?
Because as much as I podcast forthe impact and as much as I
podcast for the people that Iwant the message to reach,
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there's a part of me, there's apart of me that also podcasts
because he wants to see growthin the podcast.
And I don't believe that'swrong and I don't think that
those two things are mutuallyexclusive.
Yes, you can podcast to reachpeople, but you also want, you
want it to grow because you wantto.
You want to meet more people,you want to reach more people.
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And so I started thinking.
I came home after church and Ididn't podcast on Saturday, like
I normally do on purpose.
I just needed to.
I just I didn't want to thinkabout the podcast.
I came home from church and Iwas thinking about what can you
know?
I had some things that I couldtalk about for the men.
But I said I don't just want totalk to the men today, I want
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to talk to everybody, everybodyout there who has not seen the
growth, who has not seen theprogress, who feels like they're
stuck in the process, they feellike there are nothing is
happening, nothing is makingmoves, nothing is working.
And I just want to talk justreally quickly about what do you
do when you want to quit.
What do you do when you want toquit Like I want it to quit?
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And I started thinking aboutsome reasons why we feel like
quitting.
So there are any number ofreasons and this isn't an
exhaustive list, but it's harderthan expected.
You get into something and like, oh crap, this is building
muscle is going to be really,really hard.
Building a loyal, engaged,follow up group, community of
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listeners and engages is goingto be.
It's going to be hard.
People are oh, what do you meanto tell me?
People aren't just going tocome and flock to it because
it's me, what, as I clutch mymetaphorical pearls.
It's harder than expected.
So we want to quit.
Oh, we don't have a clear why,purpose or goal.
When you don't have clarity,you don't have anything.
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I've said that before Life getsbusy and you don't have time, I
think sometimes it's a cop outand a myth, but it can also be a
reason.
Bobby want to quit.
Priorities are a values change.
Okay, you're experiencing whatthey call shiny object syndrome,
where you know you're doingsomething for a while, then
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something better happened.
You're like, oh, let me jumponto this trend.
Now, let me jump onto thistrend.
You're like squirrel and we'regoing looking all around for the
next big thing instead ofstaying in our lane and working
with the thing that we'reworking with for the long haul.
We also want to quit becausewhat we're doing it's not what
we expected.
We expect one thing and theoutcomes and the analytics tell
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us that it's completelysomething else.
Personal circumstances change.
There's burnout and fatigue andfor all of my teacher friends
out there so many of us it's notjust teachers, but you know my
tick tock is filled withteachers who are at the burnout
phase the burnout and fatigueare real.
So we want to quit.
It feels like no one believes inyou.
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You feel like you have nosupport, but even more than that
, you quit believing in you andy'all.
If I'm honest, I hit a momentwhere I quit believing in me and
in the mission.
I felt like so much of ahypocrite because every week I
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come on and I tell you that ifnobody else believes in you, you
have to.
If everybody else is sayingthat you should quit, you can't
afford to join the mob withtheir pitchforks in there and
their fire stand.
You should quit.
If nobody else believes in you,you have to believe in you.
And I felt like such ahypocrite this week because I
quit believing in me, eventhough I had support from my
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wife and from my family andother people who I know.
Listen.
I quit believing in me.
And let me tell you this itdoesn't matter how many other
people believe in you.
If you quit believing in you,you have to believe in yourself.
Then all of your motivationwill disappear because you can't
.
It's not enough fuel foreverybody else to be there
saying go, go, go, go go.
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It has.
There has to be something onthe inside of us that says, no,
you can do this, you got this,you can do it.
Impostor syndrome is anotherreason why we want to quit.
We don't feel like we deserveto be where we are.
We don't believe like that.
We deserve to have the successthat we're having, or to be in
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the room where we find ourselves, or we're too busy comparing
ourselves to everybody else tosee that what we have inside of
us is more than enough.
And it may not look like whatanybody else's looks like, but
when we're authentic to who weare and listen, I'm talking to
myself and I'm being honest andI'm pouring myself out.
I'm putting my business out inthese streets, but I'm also
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speaking to you out there whoalso struggle with imposter
syndrome.
At times.
It, it, it hits and for some ofus it's never going to go away.
But we have to learn how tomanage it.
We have to learn to torecognize the signs.
And this week, y'all, I didn'trecognize the signs.
I haven't recognized the signsthat I've spent too much time
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looking at everybody else'ssuccess story, that I started to
minimize my own 60 episodes.
I posted I use threadssometimes to engage in the
podcast and community there.
It's thriving.
So many podcasters, so many,it's really really cool.
And I posted that I was thinkingabout taking a break, that I'd
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gone 60 episodes in and the, the, the passion wasn't there.
The, the, the, some somethingwas missing and I don't I don't
remember who it was.
I said 60 episodes.
I'm only at episode five andI'm realizing how hard this is.
60 episodes is massive.
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And I took a step back and thatslapped me across the face and
my first thought was dude, howcan you think about quitting?
How?
And I'm going to tell you andI'm going to shift to you know
why we feel like quitting.
And now I want to talk about.
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I want to talk about what to dowhen you feel like quitting,
because I promise it's going tohappen.
I watched my wife in herchiropractic program.
She she hit several pointswhere she felt like quitting,
where she wanted to quit, and Iwouldn't let her.
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I just was like no, you'recalled to this, you're chosen
for this, but I want to talkabout what to do when you feel
like quitting.
Some solutions and you takewhat you need.
You throw the rest out.
You know you throw the rest out, but, but, but, but there's
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something in here that you need,there's something in here that
I needed.
Now, talk about what I needed.
Okay, because the first thingwhen, when you feel like
quitting, you need to reexamineyour wife.
I told you all in severalpodcasts that I used to have a
podcast called the Y cast and itwas centered around answering
the question what's your why?
But not just that how are youusing your why to leverage
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impact in your community?
I love that podcast becauseeverything for me has always
come back to why.
And Simon Sinek, he's big onthe power of why.
But when you feel like quittingcircle back around to your why,
why are you doing it for me?
For me, I do this podcastprimarily because I want to
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impact people's lives.
I did.
I do this podcast because Ibelieve that there is something
that God has placed within methat if I'm not in a pulpit
speaking out, I don't have to bein a pulpit.
I can just pull up a mic, I canpull up my phone and I can
encourage people.
That's my why, because Ibelieve that God has called me
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to do this.
He's called me, you know, topreach.
He's called me to teach.
He's called me to be anencourager of mankind.
So that's my why.
And when I lose sight of my wifeand all of a sudden, the
analytics begin to begin tomatter more, the success is that
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other people have begins tomatter more, and that's why
clarity is king.
If you don't have clarity, youdon't have anything because when
you were clear on your why, itis a consistent and constant
fuel, so long as you continuallytake time to remind yourself of
that why.
So you can't say one time, thisis my wife and then believe
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that that's going to sustain youfor the rest of your life.
There are going to have to bemoments, at regular intervals.
I'm finding and I found, whereyou're going to have to sit down
with yourself and reexaminethat why and see if that why has
changed.
Because if the why has changed,awesome, take that new why, uh,
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build around it and keep itmoving.
But if your why has not changed, you still need to make sure
that that why is planted deadcenter of what you're trying to
do, because everything aroundyou is going to become a
distraction.
Your thoughts of what's goingright, your thoughts of what's
going wrong, your thoughts ofhow you can improve all of those
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things are going to be swirling.
People are going to say theylove it.
People are going to say theyhate it.
But when you have your why andyou are in a process of
continually reminding you whatyour why is, your why will
continue to push you forward andkeep your mind on keeping the
main thing, the main thing.
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So when you want to quit,you've got to focus on your why,
and I've been thinking about mywhy a lot this week.
Is this podcast so that I canbecome famous?
No, Would it be cool if thispodcast became globally known?
Yeah, but based on wherelistenership is happening.
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The pep talk podcast has goneglobal at different intervals.
Yeah, I can't get distracted byall this other stuff.
I have to zoom in on my why,and my why is all of you who are
listening and all of you whohave even yet to listen.
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There are people are going tolisten to this podcast and what
I say is going to be perfect forthem, but I also have to be
okay understanding that somepeople are going to listen to
this podcast and say, nope, thisguy's a hack.
He has no idea what he'stalking about.
He can't help me.
Somebody's going to listen tothis episode and say, why should
I ever listen to coach Jayagain, he wanted to quit, but he
tells us not to quit.
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That's fair.
I'm being transparent and I'mbeing vulnerable and that's
going to turn some people off,and you know what?
That's totally fine, because Itake power in my weakness and in
my ability to be honest andstraightforward and transparent
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about what I'm going through andhopes that it helps somebody
else to not go through thatthing.
So when you feel like quitting,step back and reexamine your
why.
I ran across this second reasonon a blog called jqcom and I'm
going to link it in the shownotes so that you can go back
and see it.
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But it says do it for the plot,do it for the plot.
I think I'm going to adopt that.
Do it for your plot.
What it means is doingsomething for your personal
storyline, as if your life was amovie, or for a book.
And boy, that's interesting.
I don't know who would play mein the coach Jay story.
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Okay, I know, not MorganFreeman, because I don't talk
like Morgan Freeman.
I know that was bad, I'm sorry,but what it causes me to think
about as an English teacher isthat in every plot there is a
conflict, because a story isnothing more than a conflict
that needs to be explored andresolved.
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Think any story that you'veread like I'm listening again to
the way of King series byBrandon Sanderson Bra is whoa.
Sanderson is a goat.
He is a goat, but his storiesExplore these conflicts.
One of the primary ones isbetween dark eyes and light eyes
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in this world.
In this world.
But when you say do it for theplot, in my mind what that
basically means is in the storyof my life.
Is this inner conflict that I'mhaving right now?
Does it make or break mycharacter, like at the end of my
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story?
If somebody going to read thestory of my life or watch the
movie when they get the next youknow handsome up and coming
actor to play, coach Jay, willthis inner turmoil, this inner
conflict, will someone look atthe story of my life or read the
book of my life and say heallowed this to break him?
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Or what do I want the plot, thestoryline of my life to be?
What do I want the conflict arcto be?
What do I want the resolutionto be?
And whatever I want that to be,do it for that plot, do it for
it.
Think about your story, thinkabout the movie of your life,
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whoever's going to play you, andunderstand that the obstacles,
the conflicts, the struggles,the setbacks are all necessary,
coach Jay, they're all necessary.
So this moment where you'rehaving doubts about the future
of the podcast and continuingthe podcast and whether you can
do this, whether people arelistening, whether you are
inspiring or encouraging anyone.
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Those thoughts are necessaryand how you choose to respond to
them will determine the arc ofyour story and the development
of your character, and I needyou to pull from that what you
will do it for the plot andunderstand that the obstacles
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and setbacks have to be.
But you have to determine Ihave to determine how much power
we give them to shape us or toshove us down.
I don't want mine to shove medown, but I am exploring them
because I want them to shape me,to make me better, to make me
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stronger, and I want yours toshape you and to make you better
and to make you stronger and tohelp build the type of
character that will sustain thesuccess that is eventually
coming if you don't quit.
I'm also going to give anotheranother, another reason or
another thing to do when youfeel like you'd want to quit.
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Take perspective, look at whatyou are going through through
the eyes of someone else, andthat could be going to someone
that you trust and talking tothem about what's going on and
getting their thoughts about it.
That could be.
That could look any number ofways, but sometimes I have found
that my I have such tunnelvision and I tend I tend to not
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be patient.
I always thought that I waspatient, but I'm not patient.
I'm not patient at all.
It's like the HG Wentworthcommercials it's my money and I
want it now.
It's my success and I want itnow.
It's my this and I want it now.
I don't want to wait for it.
But when you have people thatyou can bounce ideas off of and
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you can get differentperspectives and you allow
people to tell you aboutyourself cause we need people,
we need to get people permissionto do that then those
additional perspectives can helpshift our own, because it's not
always about you.
Sometimes we will go throughthings for other people and
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other perspectives can help usto see that, because it allows
us to zoom out and to quit beingso micro focused and get more
of a macro view.
Zoom out Okay, it's okay tozoom out and get more of a
vision or an image of what'sactually happening and how it's
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shaping you and what it's doingon the inside of you.
So, when you want to quit, geta different perspective and also
and also, when you want to quit, get back to the fun.
Just have fun, have fun, havefun, have fun.
Find a reason to smile in whatyou're doing.
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Find a reason, like I think,about my kids when they get
bored.
Sometimes they just startmaking up silly songs, they make
up silly dances, they put onshows like our oldest, they used
to just put on shows like oh, Iwish I could show y'all some of
the videos of my three oldest,kayla, caleb and Kanan.
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They used to put on shows forus.
Kayla would be the lead singeror the preacher, caleb would be
like the backup dancer, kanan,when he came along, would play
the drums with perfect rhythmand they just had fun with what
they were doing.
And I think about that sometimes, especially with regards to
this podcast.
In the beginning it was fun andI've got to get back to the fun
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of it.
That's something that I toldmyself this week.
It's got to go back to beingfun and it's got to go back to
being light and it's got to goback to just being me putting my
voice out there and whetherpeople listen or not, whether
people co-sign or not, itdoesn't really matter.
Yeah, in the end, I wantlisteners, I want downloads, I
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want a community of people thatI'm a part of, that we are
vibing off of one another, thatwe're building one another, that
we're cheering one another onand we're coaching one another
up.
That's what I want ultimately.
That's what I want this to be.
But if it never happens, can Ilook back and say that I had fun
doing it?
You bet I'ma have fun.
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I'ma have fun.
So when you want to quit, goback to the fun.
So again, maybe you're outthere when you're listening to
this and you're in that spot andyou want to quit and you don't
want to keep doing what you'redoing, even though you know it's
what you should be doing rightnow.
But you don't see the payoff,you don't see the reason behind
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it.
It just feels dumb, it feelslike you're wasting your time,
it feels like it's never gonnapop off.
People are never gonna know you.
Okay, check your why, do it forthe plot, get a different
perspective and then just havefun.
Just have fun.
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And I think that doing thosefour things will help you get
past the quitting, and notsaying that the road after that
is gonna be any harder, I meanany easier.
It may be just as hard, it maybe just as fraught.
You may feel like every daythat you want to quit, and maybe
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quitting is necessary in yourcase, but in mine it's not.
And I'm willing to bet that ifyou really sit back and take
stock, you will see that theseobstacles, these bouts of inner
turmoil, these storms, thesedesires to quit, they're not
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here to ruin you.
They're here to make you better.
So let them.
So let them and listen.
This podcast isn't goinganywhere.
We're not quitting.
Season two is coming to a close, so there will be a break after
that, during which we'reprobably gonna do some
rebranding.
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Yeah, we're gonna do somerebranding, nothing too big, but
I think it's gonna be necessaryfor the life, the life cycle of
the podcast.
It's always good to reinvent,it's always good to rebrand,
it's always good to keep thingsfresh.
But I just want you all to knowthat I love you and, if you're
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listening, I appreciate yourocking and rolling with us
every episode.
I hope that my expose expose Iguess I don't know what you call
this honest episode.
I hope my honesty has helpedsomeone who has been in this
spot, who feels like they're inthis spot or feel, or will be
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going into this spot at somepoint, of wanting to just lay it
all aside and just leave it allbehind.
There is a way forward.
There is absolutely a wayforward, and I believe in you.
I also believe in me, justin.
I believe in you.
Dude, you're doing good workwith this.
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Sometimes you got to tellyourself out loud I dare you to
do that with yourself and tokeep going because, believe it
or not, whether they will evertell you, there's somebody out
there who is impacted by whatyou are doing that you feel like
nobody sees.
Okay, now I'm going to ask youto do me a favor.
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If anything that I've said, ifit helps you, if it has spoken
to you, if it has given you someclarity, leave a review, leave
a rating, leave a review and,even more importantly, share it
with someone who comes to yourmind as you listen to this
episode.
Don't just keep it to yourself.
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Share it with somebody else andin doing so, you will help
spread pep and spreadencouragement, which is the
primary mission and goal on myheart.
I thank you all for rockingwith us on this episode, episode
33 for season two, episode 61overall, and I'm celebrating
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that.
If you want to quit, celebratethe small things too.
Celebrate the small things.
Celebrate the 61 episodesacross not even a year and a
half.
Y'all, I'm celebrating that,pat on my back, and thank you
God, and thank you everybody whocontinues listening and rocking
with us.
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This has been the Pep Talkpodcast.
Y'all know who it is.
This is Coach Jay, life Coachin DFW and one of your biggest
fans.
But y'all know how we end thepodcast Keep it love, keep it
light and keep it peppy.
Y'all, keep it peppy, stayencouraged, stay motivated and
come back next week when we willclose out the Choosing,
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intentional Manhood series.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be great, buty'all be blessed and peace out.
Alright, y'all, it's over.
Good job.
On this episode of the pep talk podcast.
We're talking about quitting,specifically me quitting.
But before we get to that, Ihave a question for you.
Have you had your dose of peptoday?
No, don't worry, I've got you.
Now let's get into it.
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Welcome to the pep talk podcast,the podcast that cheers you on
and coaches you up.
We believe that you're great,we believe that you are destined
for greatness.
You are living a life ofpurpose, on purpose, with
purpose.
But as great as you are,there's still another level that
you can aspire to.
There's still more within youto dig into and to pull out.
That's why we say that ourmission is to cheer you on,
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because everybody needs acheerleader, but we also want to
coach you up, because everybodyneeds a coach, someone who can
come in with a differentperspective, someone who can
speak with an unbiased viewpointon the way that things are
going in our lives, anddifferent perspectives that can
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help us achieve the greatnessthat sometimes lies dormant
within us.
And that's what we try to doevery Monday and the last two
weeks, also on Wednesdays, I'vegiven some bonus episodes the
last two Wednesdays, which havejust been some things that have
been percolating on my mind, andI call them pet bites, and they
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will be intermittent.
Let's say that they won't beregular by any means, but as
long as I have something midweekthat's burning in me, then I
definitely want to keep droppingthose episodes.
So, please, let me know how youlike them.
Continue, please, leaving yourratings and your reviews.
Listen, if you leave a reviewon the podcast, I will give you
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a shout out on the subsequentpodcast episode.
I will give you a shout out.
I will read your reviewverbatim as a thank you.
And so, hey, just subscribe,tell your friends, tell your
family to subscribe, because wereally do believe in the mission
of this podcast and the visionbehind it.
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But even with all of that said,even with all of the belief in
the mission and in the visionthat I have in this podcast, I I
felt the need to be honest withall of you listeners out there.
And I'm going to be honest notbecause I want to win brownie
points or, you know, empathy orsympathy, because none, none,
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none of that.
But I do believe.
I do believe that I never wantto come across as somebody who
has it all together, even thoughI come on to this podcast week
by week and I'm offeringsolutions for all kinds of
things.
The last few weeks we've beentalking to men about choosing
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intentional manhood and I'malmost done with that series.
But I felt like this, thismessage needed to take precedent
, because I need to speak toboth my brothers and my sisters
and I need to use myself as thebackdrop, as the canvas, because
, man, this week, maybe the lasttwo weeks, it's been really,
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really, really hard maintainingthe motivation and the pep
that's necessary to beconsistent with this podcast.
Y'all.
I thought about quitting, Ireally thought about quitting
and, at the very least, Ithought about and I'm thinking
about maybe it's time to wrap upseason two and take a little
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break to prepare and revamp forseason three.
And I'm going to be honest,because I feel like it can help
someone, that Even being 60episodes in this is going to be
episode 61 overall.
There were 28 episodes in seasonone.
There have been 32 episodes inseason two so far.
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So this will be episode 33 andoverall episode 61, 61 episodes.
And we have seen highs, we'veseen lows.
We started out with alistenership of I remember the
teaser that I posted got 50listens.
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The first episode got 100listens and then, you know, as
things started happening, wewould alternate between 20, 25,
30 listeners.
Then, toward the end of lastyear, something happened.
We had a spike where we wentfrom 35 listeners to 70
listeners, to 80, to 90, to 100listeners I think.
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We had a high of 120 listenerson a single episode.
And then the number started todwindle back down.
And I know I say all the time, Isay all the time that it's not
about the downloads, it's notabout the listens, it's about
the one person who needs to hearthe message.
And then that is still the case.
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But again, being a human being,the human that I am, and
continually watching theanalytics, tell me that
something is not hitting rightwith the audience.
And you know being in spaceswhere podcasters who were just
starting out are hitting massivenumbers and are getting all
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types of engagement andinteraction with the comment
that comes off of their podcasts.
I know it doesn't matter, butin the part of me who does this
because I want to change lives,it does matter and I can admit
that, even as I tell you, evenas I tell you that doing this
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podcast is some of the mostmeaningful work that I think I
do in my life and because it'sso meaningful to me, I believe
that I can come on here and Ican tell you that I really
thought about quitting because Ididn't realize I didn't, I
didn't fully count the cost whenI came in to doing this.
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I just knew that I had a message.
I just knew that there werepeople who needed to hear this
message and that I feltresponsible for using my voice
right and to build a platform,because nobody's going to give
me a platform.
So I said let me build myself aplatform out of duct tape and
cardboard, right.
Let's get this Yeti snowballmic that is not well thought of
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in the podcasting community.
Let me get me some inexpensiveheadphones off of Amazon and
let's press play and see whathappens.
And even in the midst of all ofthat the excitement, the
motivational aspect of it, themindset work, with me getting on
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talking about the things thatI've done to correct some
mindset things that I had goingon, the shifts that I've had to
make to get to this point in mylife, y'all I'm sitting with
myself and I'm like maybe thispodcast does not need to
continue.
That's tough, because I canstand by a statement that I made
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earlier on this season thatthis will be a ranked podcast.
It's going to be a recommendedpodcast on Apple.
I still believe that.
But there are these pockets ofmoments in the midst of the
process and in the midst of theprogress, no matter what we're
doing, no matter how we'reworking, where, when we're not
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seeing the results that we thinkthat we should be seeing, then
we really begin to wonder.
The thoughts begin to set in isanybody actually listening or
are they just bots?
So and so has a community ofsupporters who are supporting
them on Patreon, and they'remaking bonus episodes and giving
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them to only subscribers.
And on one hand, I'm clappinglike you go, you go, but on the
other hand, I'm like I don'twant to charge anybody for this.
I just want to know that peopleare listening and that it's
helping.
And again, I'm being completelyhonest, the human part of me
this week I even talked to mywife about it was just about the
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fact of do I really want tokeep doing this?
And it's not because it's hardwork.
No, it's not because you knowit takes me 40 hours per week to
prepare the content.
No, it's none of that.
It doesn't take me 40 hours perweek.
I read up on stuff.
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I don't jot down notes, I justcome on and I record what's on
my heart.
I pray before each episode andI just hit record and then
whatever comes out is what Ibelieve needs to come out to
help the one person out therewho needs to hear the message,
or the two people who need tohear the message.
But sometimes quitting becomes avery attractive option when
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you're not seeing the resultsthat you want to see.
I mean, let's talk about it.
Beginning of the yearresolutions I want to lose
weight, let's go to the gym.
Okay, let's go to the gym Afterone day.
I don't see any.
I don't see any evidence, butI'm just sore, it hurts.
So instead of going every daynow, I'm going to go every other
day and then after two weeks Istill don't see any progress.
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Quitting becomes an option.
Right when I start that newdiet oh my gosh, I'm not losing
weight and I'm hungry all thetime.
What in the world?
Quitting becomes an option.
It becomes really, reallyattractive in relationships when
you know there's somebody thatyou like and they don't like you
back.
And you keep pouring, you knowyou keep trying with the flowers
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and they hey, let's go hang out, nothing's happening.
Quitting becomes an attractiveoption and we get to a point
where, if we're honest, if we'rehonest and here's the thing
that I don't often hear talkedabout in the motivational videos
what do you do when your beliefin yourself has been
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extinguished and you no longerhave that inner drive, that
inner fuel to continue pressingforward toward that mark, toward
that purpose, toward that goal?
Because as much as I podcast forthe impact and as much as I
podcast for the people that Iwant the message to reach,
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there's a part of me, there's apart of me that also podcasts
because he wants to see growthin the podcast.
And I don't believe that'swrong and I don't think that
those two things are mutuallyexclusive.
Yes, you can podcast to reachpeople, but you also want, you
want it to grow because you wantto.
You want to meet more people,you want to reach more people.
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And so I started thinking.
I came home after church and Ididn't podcast on Saturday, like
I normally do on purpose.
I just needed to.
I just I didn't want to thinkabout the podcast.
I came home from church and Iwas thinking about what can you
know?
I had some things that I couldtalk about for the men.
But I said I don't just want totalk to the men today, I want
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to talk to everybody, everybodyout there who has not seen the
growth, who has not seen theprogress, who feels like they're
stuck in the process, they feellike there are nothing is
happening, nothing is makingmoves, nothing is working.
And I just want to talk justreally quickly about what do you
do when you want to quit.
What do you do when you want toquit Like I want it to quit?
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And I started thinking aboutsome reasons why we feel like
quitting.
So there are any number ofreasons and this isn't an
exhaustive list, but it's harderthan expected.
You get into something and like, oh crap, this is building
muscle is going to be really,really hard.
Building a loyal, engaged,follow up group, community of
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listeners and engages is goingto be.
It's going to be hard.
People are oh, what do you meanto tell me?
People aren't just going tocome and flock to it because
it's me, what, as I clutch mymetaphorical pearls.
It's harder than expected.
So we want to quit.
Oh, we don't have a clear why,purpose or goal.
When you don't have clarity,you don't have anything.
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I've said that before Life getsbusy and you don't have time, I
think sometimes it's a cop outand a myth, but it can also be a
reason.
Bobby want to quit.
Priorities are a values change.
Okay, you're experiencing whatthey call shiny object syndrome,
where you know you're doingsomething for a while, then
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something better happened.
You're like, oh, let me jumponto this trend.
Now, let me jump onto thistrend.
You're like squirrel and we'regoing looking all around for the
next big thing instead ofstaying in our lane and working
with the thing that we'reworking with for the long haul.
We also want to quit becausewhat we're doing it's not what
we expected.
We expect one thing and theoutcomes and the analytics tell
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us that it's completelysomething else.
Personal circumstances change.
There's burnout and fatigue andfor all of my teacher friends
out there so many of us it's notjust teachers, but you know my
tick tock is filled withteachers who are at the burnout
phase the burnout and fatigueare real.
So we want to quit.
It feels like no one believes inyou.
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You feel like you have nosupport, but even more than that
, you quit believing in you andy'all.
If I'm honest, I hit a momentwhere I quit believing in me and
in the mission.
I felt like so much of ahypocrite because every week I
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come on and I tell you that ifnobody else believes in you, you
have to.
If everybody else is sayingthat you should quit, you can't
afford to join the mob withtheir pitchforks in there and
their fire stand.
You should quit.
If nobody else believes in you,you have to believe in you.
And I felt like such ahypocrite this week because I
quit believing in me, eventhough I had support from my
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wife and from my family andother people who I know.
Listen.
I quit believing in me.
And let me tell you this itdoesn't matter how many other
people believe in you.
If you quit believing in you,you have to believe in yourself.
Then all of your motivationwill disappear because you can't
.
It's not enough fuel foreverybody else to be there
saying go, go, go, go go.
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It has.
There has to be something onthe inside of us that says, no,
you can do this, you got this,you can do it.
Impostor syndrome is anotherreason why we want to quit.
We don't feel like we deserveto be where we are.
We don't believe like that.
We deserve to have the successthat we're having, or to be in
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the room where we find ourselves, or we're too busy comparing
ourselves to everybody else tosee that what we have inside of
us is more than enough.
And it may not look like whatanybody else's looks like, but
when we're authentic to who weare and listen, I'm talking to
myself and I'm being honest andI'm pouring myself out.
I'm putting my business out inthese streets, but I'm also
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speaking to you out there whoalso struggle with imposter
syndrome.
At times.
It, it, it hits and for some ofus it's never going to go away.
But we have to learn how tomanage it.
We have to learn to torecognize the signs.
And this week, y'all, I didn'trecognize the signs.
I haven't recognized the signsthat I've spent too much time
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looking at everybody else'ssuccess story, that I started to
minimize my own 60 episodes.
I posted I use threadssometimes to engage in the
podcast and community there.
It's thriving.
So many podcasters, so many,it's really really cool.
And I posted that I was thinkingabout taking a break, that I'd
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gone 60 episodes in and the, the, the passion wasn't there.
The, the, the, some somethingwas missing and I don't I don't
remember who it was.
I said 60 episodes.
I'm only at episode five andI'm realizing how hard this is.
60 episodes is massive.
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And I took a step back and thatslapped me across the face and
my first thought was dude, howcan you think about quitting?
How?
And I'm going to tell you andI'm going to shift to you know
why we feel like quitting.
And now I want to talk about.
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I want to talk about what to dowhen you feel like quitting,
because I promise it's going tohappen.
I watched my wife in herchiropractic program.
She she hit several pointswhere she felt like quitting,
where she wanted to quit, and Iwouldn't let her.
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I just was like no, you'recalled to this, you're chosen
for this, but I want to talkabout what to do when you feel
like quitting.
Some solutions and you takewhat you need.
You throw the rest out.
You know you throw the rest out, but, but, but, but there's
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something in here that you need,there's something in here that
I needed.
Now, talk about what I needed.
Okay, because the first thingwhen, when you feel like
quitting, you need to reexamineyour wife.
I told you all in severalpodcasts that I used to have a
podcast called the Y cast and itwas centered around answering
the question what's your why?
But not just that how are youusing your why to leverage
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impact in your community?
I love that podcast becauseeverything for me has always
come back to why.
And Simon Sinek, he's big onthe power of why.
But when you feel like quittingcircle back around to your why,
why are you doing it for me?
For me, I do this podcastprimarily because I want to
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impact people's lives.
I did.
I do this podcast because Ibelieve that there is something
that God has placed within methat if I'm not in a pulpit
speaking out, I don't have to bein a pulpit.
I can just pull up a mic, I canpull up my phone and I can
encourage people.
That's my why, because Ibelieve that God has called me
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to do this.
He's called me, you know, topreach.
He's called me to teach.
He's called me to be anencourager of mankind.
So that's my why.
And when I lose sight of my wifeand all of a sudden, the
analytics begin to begin tomatter more, the success is that
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other people have begins tomatter more, and that's why
clarity is king.
If you don't have clarity, youdon't have anything because when
you were clear on your why, itis a consistent and constant
fuel, so long as you continuallytake time to remind yourself of
that why.
So you can't say one time, thisis my wife and then believe
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that that's going to sustain youfor the rest of your life.
There are going to have to bemoments, at regular intervals.
I'm finding and I found, whereyou're going to have to sit down
with yourself and reexaminethat why and see if that why has
changed.
Because if the why has changed,awesome, take that new why, uh,
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build around it and keep itmoving.
But if your why has not changed, you still need to make sure
that that why is planted deadcenter of what you're trying to
do, because everything aroundyou is going to become a
distraction.
Your thoughts of what's goingright, your thoughts of what's
going wrong, your thoughts ofhow you can improve all of those
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things are going to be swirling.
People are going to say theylove it.
People are going to say theyhate it.
But when you have your why andyou are in a process of
continually reminding you whatyour why is, your why will
continue to push you forward andkeep your mind on keeping the
main thing, the main thing.
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So when you want to quit,you've got to focus on your why,
and I've been thinking about mywhy a lot this week.
Is this podcast so that I canbecome famous?
No, Would it be cool if thispodcast became globally known?
Yeah, but based on wherelistenership is happening.
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The pep talk podcast has goneglobal at different intervals.
Yeah, I can't get distracted byall this other stuff.
I have to zoom in on my why,and my why is all of you who are
listening and all of you whohave even yet to listen.
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There are people are going tolisten to this podcast and what
I say is going to be perfect forthem, but I also have to be
okay understanding that somepeople are going to listen to
this podcast and say, nope, thisguy's a hack.
He has no idea what he'stalking about.
He can't help me.
Somebody's going to listen tothis episode and say, why should
I ever listen to coach Jayagain, he wanted to quit, but he
tells us not to quit.
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That's fair.
I'm being transparent and I'mbeing vulnerable and that's
going to turn some people off,and you know what?
That's totally fine, because Itake power in my weakness and in
my ability to be honest andstraightforward and transparent
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about what I'm going through andhopes that it helps somebody
else to not go through thatthing.
So when you feel like quitting,step back and reexamine your
why.
I ran across this second reasonon a blog called jqcom and I'm
going to link it in the shownotes so that you can go back
and see it.
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But it says do it for the plot,do it for the plot.
I think I'm going to adopt that.
Do it for your plot.
What it means is doingsomething for your personal
storyline, as if your life was amovie, or for a book.
And boy, that's interesting.
I don't know who would play mein the coach Jay story.
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Okay, I know, not MorganFreeman, because I don't talk
like Morgan Freeman.
I know that was bad, I'm sorry,but what it causes me to think
about as an English teacher isthat in every plot there is a
conflict, because a story isnothing more than a conflict
that needs to be explored andresolved.
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Think any story that you'veread like I'm listening again to
the way of King series byBrandon Sanderson Bra is whoa.
Sanderson is a goat.
He is a goat, but his storiesExplore these conflicts.
One of the primary ones isbetween dark eyes and light eyes
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in this world.
In this world.
But when you say do it for theplot, in my mind what that
basically means is in the storyof my life.
Is this inner conflict that I'mhaving right now?
Does it make or break mycharacter, like at the end of my
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story?
If somebody going to read thestory of my life or watch the
movie when they get the next youknow handsome up and coming
actor to play, coach Jay, willthis inner turmoil, this inner
conflict, will someone look atthe story of my life or read the
book of my life and say heallowed this to break him?
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Or what do I want the plot, thestoryline of my life to be?
What do I want the conflict arcto be?
What do I want the resolutionto be?
And whatever I want that to be,do it for that plot, do it for
it.
Think about your story, thinkabout the movie of your life,
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whoever's going to play you, andunderstand that the obstacles,
the conflicts, the struggles,the setbacks are all necessary,
coach Jay, they're all necessary.
So this moment where you'rehaving doubts about the future
of the podcast and continuingthe podcast and whether you can
do this, whether people arelistening, whether you are
inspiring or encouraging anyone.
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Those thoughts are necessaryand how you choose to respond to
them will determine the arc ofyour story and the development
of your character, and I needyou to pull from that what you
will do it for the plot andunderstand that the obstacles
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and setbacks have to be.
But you have to determine Ihave to determine how much power
we give them to shape us or toshove us down.
I don't want mine to shove medown, but I am exploring them
because I want them to shape me,to make me better, to make me
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stronger, and I want yours toshape you and to make you better
and to make you stronger and tohelp build the type of
character that will sustain thesuccess that is eventually
coming if you don't quit.
I'm also going to give anotheranother, another reason or
another thing to do when youfeel like you'd want to quit.
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Take perspective, look at whatyou are going through through
the eyes of someone else, andthat could be going to someone
that you trust and talking tothem about what's going on and
getting their thoughts about it.
That could be.
That could look any number ofways, but sometimes I have found
that my I have such tunnelvision and I tend I tend to not
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be patient.
I always thought that I waspatient, but I'm not patient.
I'm not patient at all.
It's like the HG Wentworthcommercials it's my money and I
want it now.
It's my success and I want itnow.
It's my this and I want it now.
I don't want to wait for it.
But when you have people thatyou can bounce ideas off of and
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you can get differentperspectives and you allow
people to tell you aboutyourself cause we need people,
we need to get people permissionto do that then those
additional perspectives can helpshift our own, because it's not
always about you.
Sometimes we will go throughthings for other people and
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other perspectives can help usto see that, because it allows
us to zoom out and to quit beingso micro focused and get more
of a macro view.
Zoom out Okay, it's okay tozoom out and get more of a
vision or an image of what'sactually happening and how it's
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shaping you and what it's doingon the inside of you.
So, when you want to quit, geta different perspective and also
and also, when you want to quit, get back to the fun.
Just have fun, have fun, havefun, have fun.
Find a reason to smile in whatyou're doing.
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Find a reason, like I think,about my kids when they get
bored.
Sometimes they just startmaking up silly songs, they make
up silly dances, they put onshows like our oldest, they used
to just put on shows like oh, Iwish I could show y'all some of
the videos of my three oldest,kayla, caleb and Kanan.
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They used to put on shows forus.
Kayla would be the lead singeror the preacher, caleb would be
like the backup dancer, kanan,when he came along, would play
the drums with perfect rhythmand they just had fun with what
they were doing.
And I think about that sometimes, especially with regards to
this podcast.
In the beginning it was fun andI've got to get back to the fun
(29:01):
of it.
That's something that I toldmyself this week.
It's got to go back to beingfun and it's got to go back to
being light and it's got to goback to just being me putting my
voice out there and whetherpeople listen or not, whether
people co-sign or not, itdoesn't really matter.
Yeah, in the end, I wantlisteners, I want downloads, I
(29:21):
want a community of people thatI'm a part of, that we are
vibing off of one another, thatwe're building one another, that
we're cheering one another onand we're coaching one another
up.
That's what I want ultimately.
That's what I want this to be.
But if it never happens, can Ilook back and say that I had fun
doing it?
You bet I'ma have fun.
(29:44):
I'ma have fun.
So when you want to quit, goback to the fun.
So again, maybe you're outthere when you're listening to
this and you're in that spot andyou want to quit and you don't
want to keep doing what you'redoing, even though you know it's
what you should be doing rightnow.
But you don't see the payoff,you don't see the reason behind
(30:08):
it.
It just feels dumb, it feelslike you're wasting your time,
it feels like it's never gonnapop off.
People are never gonna know you.
Okay, check your why, do it forthe plot, get a different
perspective and then just havefun.
Just have fun.
(30:31):
And I think that doing thosefour things will help you get
past the quitting, and notsaying that the road after that
is gonna be any harder, I meanany easier.
It may be just as hard, it maybe just as fraught.
You may feel like every daythat you want to quit, and maybe
(30:53):
quitting is necessary in yourcase, but in mine it's not.
And I'm willing to bet that ifyou really sit back and take
stock, you will see that theseobstacles, these bouts of inner
turmoil, these storms, thesedesires to quit, they're not
(31:13):
here to ruin you.
They're here to make you better.
So let them.
So let them and listen.
This podcast isn't goinganywhere.
We're not quitting.
Season two is coming to a close, so there will be a break after
that, during which we'reprobably gonna do some
rebranding.
(31:33):
Yeah, we're gonna do somerebranding, nothing too big, but
I think it's gonna be necessaryfor the life, the life cycle of
the podcast.
It's always good to reinvent,it's always good to rebrand,
it's always good to keep thingsfresh.
But I just want you all to knowthat I love you and, if you're
(31:57):
listening, I appreciate yourocking and rolling with us
every episode.
I hope that my expose expose Iguess I don't know what you call
this honest episode.
I hope my honesty has helpedsomeone who has been in this
spot, who feels like they're inthis spot or feel, or will be
(32:17):
going into this spot at somepoint, of wanting to just lay it
all aside and just leave it allbehind.
There is a way forward.
There is absolutely a wayforward, and I believe in you.
I also believe in me, justin.
I believe in you.
Dude, you're doing good workwith this.
(32:38):
Sometimes you got to tellyourself out loud I dare you to
do that with yourself and tokeep going because, believe it
or not, whether they will evertell you, there's somebody out
there who is impacted by whatyou are doing that you feel like
nobody sees.
Okay, now I'm going to ask youto do me a favor.
(33:00):
If anything that I've said, ifit helps you, if it has spoken
to you, if it has given you someclarity, leave a review, leave
a rating, leave a review and,even more importantly, share it
with someone who comes to yourmind as you listen to this
episode.
Don't just keep it to yourself.
(33:20):
Share it with somebody else andin doing so, you will help
spread pep and spreadencouragement, which is the
primary mission and goal on myheart.
I thank you all for rockingwith us on this episode, episode
33 for season two, episode 61overall, and I'm celebrating
(33:42):
that.
If you want to quit, celebratethe small things too.
Celebrate the small things.
Celebrate the 61 episodesacross not even a year and a
half.
Y'all, I'm celebrating that,pat on my back, and thank you
God, and thank you everybody whocontinues listening and rocking
with us.
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This has been the Pep Talkpodcast.
Y'all know who it is.
This is Coach Jay, life Coachin DFW and one of your biggest
fans.
But y'all know how we end thepodcast Keep it love, keep it
light and keep it peppy.
Y'all, keep it peppy, stayencouraged, stay motivated and
come back next week when we willclose out the Choosing,
(34:24):
intentional Manhood series.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be great, buty'all be blessed and peace out.
Alright, y'all, it's over.
Good job.
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