August 8, 2022 • 50 mins
"I'm really crazy. Like, this isn't real. I know that I've been kind of tuned in and maybe seeing some signs and stuff. But this is crazy. So now I'm like, let me just take this a step further and see what happens."
Jess Bubbico is a speech therapist turned speaker, podcaster & founder of Love Your Woo - a global community of change makers ready to shake up the planet. This is the story of Jess stepping away from her traditional, science-based career to embrace the woo that'd always been a part of her.
In this episode, you'll learn about:
1. The way shame and embarrassment can hold you back.
2. Developing your intuition.
3. Removing the boxes we place ourselves.
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Jess Bubbico (00:00):
I remember telling my parents Hey, I'm starting to
(00:03):
do intuitive readings. My momwas familiar with psychics
because she had gone to psychicswhen I was younger. And she was
just like, okay, maybe don'tlead with that on a date. And
I'm like, okay, but all thatshame, like, had kind of
crystallized into not fullyliving in congruence with myself
as well, because I was carryingthis like, people are going to
(00:25):
think this is weird. So I thinkfor me, it's still this gradual
unfolding process as I do thiswork of Okay, notice when shame
comes up, notice whenembarrassment comes up. Notice,
you know my business is Loveyour Woo, my mom said to me the
other day, oh, I was tellingsome friends about your
business. And some people askedme if woo was a vagina. I'm
like, No, it's not a vagina.
Jamie Stephens (00:50):
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of
breaking up a corporate. Eachweek I chat with everyday women
that ditch their nine to five tobet on themselves. We break down
their journey intoentrepreneurship, unpack the
lessons learned and create thevision of how this life gets to
be if you're willing to getuncomfortable and step into your
potential. I'm your host, JamieRiene, to time corporate escapee
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and coach to burnout womenlooking to plan their escape.
Let's go.
Hello, and welcome back toanother episode of Breaking up
with corporate. Today I haveJess Bubbico, who is a keynote
speaker and acclaimed podcasthost and founder of the global
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love your woo community. Jess,welcome to the show.
Jess Bubbico (01:38):
Thank you so much for having me here today. Yeah,
so
Jamie Stephens (01:41):
we were just chit chatting a little bit about
kind of your background. So I'lljust let you get right into it.
And tell us a little bit aboutwhat your background was, and
kind of the corporate setting.
And then we'll get into whatyou're doing today.
Jess Bubbico (01:55):
Absolutely. So I started out in the world of
speech therapy, speech languagepathology. And I actually
started out in the schoolsetting. So I graduated from
graduate school and went rightinto the schools, which is not
the same as corporate, but I candefinitely say there's a lot of
politics in a school and a lotof drama that can happen in a
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school, especially when probablyI want to say like 97% of the
school was women. So that bringsits own really unique sort of
dynamics. And then I ended upmoving into so I went to Penn
State for undergrad. And then Iwent back up to Connecticut
where my family lives and did mygraduate schooling and
Connecticut, southernConnecticut State University.
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And then I ended up going downto North Carolina, like I need
to change I need to get out ofthe Northeast, the winters are
so cold, I'm over it, like I'mgonna fly the coop and head
south. And so I had always Istarted in the schools, because
it was a bit easier as a brandnew clinician to get a job in
the schools, you have to dosomething called a clinical
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fellowship year, your firstyear. And so it's much easier to
get supervision in the schools.
But I knew I wanted to work inthe hospitals. And down in North
Carolina, I worked forCarolina's health care system,
which is like the largesthospital system in the
Carolinas. And so I ended upgoing in and starting to work
with brain injury patients afterI had gotten a little bit of
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experience under my belt in theschools. And I made the leap
into that corporate morecorporate environment,
everything in the hospitals, youknow, I moved around a little
bit within the system. But thething that I kept on seeing that
felt really disheartening to mewas that, and I understand this
from a financial perspective,but most people go into speech
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therapy because they loveworking with people, they want
to help people. You know, forme, in particular, I loved being
able to be on a rehab floor andsee someone go from, you know, I
worked both acutely in thehospital. So if somebody had a
stroke, I would go in and Iwould do a swallow evaluation
with them to see if they werehaving any issues with you know,
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breathing, swallowing, etc. Andthen I got to see them move on
to the rehab floor, and then Icould work with them there and
get to kind of be with themalong their journey. You get to
meet the family, you get to getinvolved for those who have
family support. And yet behindthe scenes, what was would
happen is these decisions wouldbe made that really, and again,
I understand the financialaspect of things, especially now
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running my own business, butit's like, these things are not
in the best interest of thepatient. I don't personally
think a lot of them when Ieventually transitioned back
into because I went from thehospital to a hospital rehab,
outpatient rehab outside of thehospital and was working with
kids again, it was like, youknow, we had low income families
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that were coming in that hadtrouble with transportation. It
was challenging for them to getthere. And they'd say, Well,
when people aren't sure up,we're going to take away people
having a recurring scheduleevery week where they get to
come the same time, the sameplace. Because they're both
financially it doesn't makesense. Yeah. So they're wanting
these families who sometimesdon't have transportation, maybe
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mom or dad are working, or it'sthe single parent, they're
working multiple jobs, andthey're going, well, these
people are gonna have to call atthe beginning of the week, and
get an appointment. And you'relike, How feasible is this, this
isn't actually serving theclient in the highest way
possible. I understand from afinancial perspective, what's
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going on, but maybe we need tolook at how the money is being
divided up around who's makingwhat within the hospital system,
or whatever it may be. And Iactually ended up leaving to
pursue my own business, like,right as this change was
happening, because I'm like, Ican't I it just didn't align
with my values. And I was like,I can't do this anymore. And not
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to mention, I had a hard time inthe hospitals, because I knew a
lot about nutrition. And I hadbeen a fitness instructor
growing up, you know, as I wasin college, grad school, I
needed to make money became afitness instructor. And I'm
like, we're serving ham andcheese sandwiches on white
bread, and Coca Cola to somebodywho's trying to heal their
bodies. So I want to zoom outand say, I was very grateful for
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being in that more corporateenvironment. Because when
you're, as a speech therapist,you know, people open up private
practices that are smaller, andthat are
more connected with the heart ofspeech therapy in the first
place. So being able to go intothat corporate environment and
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see like, Okay, this is themachine, this is what it looks
like, I was grateful for it,because there were certain
things that it provided for me,where I could go, Okay, there's
some stability here. And I gotto learn a lot of things that I
might not have been able tolearn in a private practice.
Because, you know, they hostedworkshops and classes, right. So
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it's like, okay, got some reallycool access to free education or
these different things. But Ithink at the end of the day, the
reason I chose to break up withcorporate was because it really
didn't align with my valuesystem. And I couldn't get
behind saying one thing. Andhaving all this beautiful
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marketing, and people huggingeach other, and hospitals at
whatever, and all care, and thenbehind the scenes, watching all
of this conversation happenaround money and structure and
all the stuff that doesn'tnecessarily to me feel like it's
actually aligned. So I, Igracefully exited, because I'm
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like, This just doesn't, doesn'tfit. So it's usually
Jamie Stephens (07:49):
rarely about the job itself. Whenever people
leave, you know, it's all ofthat crap that happens behind
the scenes and the incongruence.
And the Yeah, I mean, I get allof that. So whenever you left,
did you go straight into speechtherapy at your own private
practice? Or what were you goingin a different direction,
Jess Bubbico (08:09):
I ended up going in a different direction. So
actually, the first day of myschool job, I'm gonna say, the
first week of my school job, Iremember calling my dad and I'm
like, I would think I was 24 atthe time, and I was like, I
don't think I can do this. Howmany three years like this is
day one, how many more years? DoI have to do this for? Probably
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a solid like 35 to 40. I'm like,Oh, my God, I can't like there's
just no way. And around thatsame time. Honestly, about a
year before I finished speechtherapy school, I started kind
of going through my ownspiritual awakening of sorts. I
didn't know that that's what itwas at the time. But I broke up
out of a like long term, sevenyear relationship, young love.
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And I started to like, exploremyself. And I'm like, why? Who
am I? What's important to me?
And so when I finished school, Ihad that realization of like, I
don't think I can work forsomebody else, 40 hours a week,
in the same therapy room for thenext 35 years, like I will, I
will die. Yeah. And so I startedpursuing different things
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outside of the therapy realm,because as much as I loved
speech therapy, and I still do,there's, I mean, it's a
beautiful career. There werelimitations within it. So as an
example, like I'd be workingwith a child, maybe on
articulation stuff, but there'smassive behavioral issues that
are happening. And those massivebehavioral issues that are
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happening are happening becauseof parental stuff that's going
on behind the scenes. So Istarted to see these limitations
of like, Am I making the mostimpact here? Like can I actually
help to the highest degree ofwhat I love doing in this
setting? So that's when Istarted really learning more
about like I said, I had beenhad a fitness background,
learning about nutrition, mentalhealth, spirituality. So when I
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transitioned out of corporate, Ihad actually started on the
side, my own business, prettymuch if I started my corporate
job in 2013, or started mycareer in 2013 2014, I was
already starting a business, youknow, because I knew I had that
entrepreneurial mindset, and Iam creative. And I, yeah, I, you
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know, I'd always worked multiplejobs, too. So I transitioned out
into my own little intuitivewitchy woowoo business, which
was the exact opposite of what Iwas doing, which came with a lot
of its own baggage. A lot oflike, shame, embarrassment, like
I was supposed to be this likespeech therapist talking about
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brain injury, and maybe one dayaspire to take over a, you know,
department or hospital orsomething. And now I'm talking
about, like, intuition and yourfeelings and woowoo stuff. So I
had, which is why my business iscalled Love Your will, because
that's the process that I wentthrough was like, honestly, it's
funny, because I'm talking aboutit. I'm because I don't tell
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these stories. Often. I'm like,a lot of shame, a lot of
embarrassment. Lot of yeah, alot of internal work went into
it. So yeah, that's what Istepped out of into,
Jamie Stephens (11:21):
how long did that take you to kind of realize
number one, that's what washappening, whenever you
transitioned with the shame andall of that. Tell me a little
bit about that process, kind ofthat the undoing of the speech,
therapist identity and kind ofstepping into this new role. I
know that that comes with, likeyou said, its own baggage. But
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tell me, tell me more aboutthat.
Jess Bubbico (11:46):
Yeah, it's, it's interesting, because if I can
actually rewind a little bit, Ihad always, as a kid, stayed
very connected to I believeeverybody is intuitive. I know,
everybody's intuitive. And Iknow everybody's intuitive in
their own way. And when I lookat intuition, really what I'm
just looking at, it's not aboutlike having to be the super
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ultra spiritual person who sitson the side of a mountain or
does Iosco, or whatever. Youknow, to me, intuition is, those
little synchronicities or thoselittle things that happen, that
can't be explained by logic. Sothe example of, I'm thinking
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about somebody that I haven'ttalked to in a while, and then
they call me, and I'm like, Wow,that's crazy. I was just
thinking about you, or, youknow, things like this. When I
was a kid, I had stayed prettyconnected to intuition. And I
specifically had a lot ofsituations with people who had
crossed over, coming back andvisiting, and having the ability
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to connect with them. Now, Iwasn't sitting again, I didn't
have a spiritual family. I camefrom like a Roman Catholic
Connecticut family that waslike, don't tell people about
that. That's weird, or like,Yeah, whatever. So I can
remember, in 2014, I startedworking with a mentor on
intuition, because I called apsychic and was like, Hey, I
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hate my job. I don't know whatto do. I'm lost. I was going
through like a massive darknight of the soul. And by the
way, I think I can talk to deadpeople, right? Like, I'm like, I
yeah, I'm like, but I also lovelogic and science. So I don't
want to become one of thosewoowoo people that I see, you
know, the judgment was there,right? So she was like, she was
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really cool. She's a greatfriend now. And she, she was
just like, I teach classes onthis. And I can support you with
kind of opening up to andunderstanding it. I think a lot
of people fear intuition,because we don't have a
structure and a scaffold, tounderstand it. And as human
beings, we need to be able tounderstand things and make
logical sense of them. Which, tome intuition. Now, as I
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understand it is actually thereis a foundation, there is a
structure, there's a way inwhich things kind of happen. So
anyways, as I studied with her,and I was opening up more and
more to my own gifts, it waskind of a gradual having to deal
with because I, this all startedin 2014. And then I stepped out
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four years later from thecorporate scene. So I was
building a foundation for myselfas I was stepping out. So the
process for me was really like,you know, telling my best
friend, like, hey, remember whenI was younger, and I had that
weird thing happened with thatdream with my grandma that my
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mom saw at the same time, and Iwas freaking out because it was
super weird. And I maybe couldconnect with her after she had
died. Well, now I'm starting todo intuitive readings. They're
like, okay, cool. We support it.
Thankfully, we support you. Soit wasn't this sort of like
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black and white, like, leap out.
It was a gradual process. But Iremember telling my parents,
hey, I'm starting to dointuitive readings. My mom was
familiar with psychics becauseshe had gone to psychics when I
was younger. And she was justlike, okay, maybe don't lead
with that on a date. And I'mlike, okay, but that all that
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shame, like, had had kind ofcrystallized into not fully
living in congruence with myselfas well, because I was carrying
this, like, people are gonnathink this is weird. So I think
for me, it's still this gradualunfolding process as I do this
work of like, Okay, notice whenshame comes up. Notice when
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embarrassment comes up, notice,you know, my businesses love
your Whoo, my mom said to me theother day, oh, I was telling
some friends about yourbusiness. And some people asked
me if we was a vagina. I'm like,No, it's not a vagina. But I get
why you think that right?
Because we call private partsweird things to children. Right?
So I think for me, it's it'sthis constant. Like, I'm much
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more comfortable with it now.
But I think the process for mehas been keep going inward, keep
turning towards your discomfort,like, don't run from it, because
I could run from it and go rightback to a speech therapy job
because I still have my licenseif I wanted to, but sometimes
the not. So the path is the mostenriching path.
Jamie Stephens (16:33):
For sure. Yeah, that just that brings up so much
other than trying to figure outlike, which direction I want to
go. That because I am, I didhear this story with your
grandma, on the one podcast thatI chose to listen to before
this. So can you tell us alittle bit about that story? And
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then we'll kind of, we'll backinto all of my questions.
Jess Bubbico (16:58):
Absolutely. So I'm born on the same day as my mom
and my grandma. So I'm bornMarch 22. So as my mom and my
mom's mom, so already, they're,like, kind of weird and crazy,
right? Like who's born on thesame day as their mom and
grandma? Turns out BrooklynDecker is for anybody out
there's a Grace and FrankieYeah. Yeah, it was like holy
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crap. Who knew? When I wasyounger, right, in the middle
school years, like, sixth toeighth grade, I lost a lot of
pee, a lot of people died thatwere significant in my life. And
I remember at that timethinking, like, you know, I've
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seen psychic shows, I've seenthe sixth sense. Like, I wonder
if it's possible to stayconnected to these people. And
so, this is funny, because I'mreflecting on this. Now, I don't
know that I've ever said thisout loud. But like, I think
there was a natural curiosity inmy mind. That was like, what
happens when people die? And,you know, how do we stay
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connected? And so I think Iwould just try to see things or
I would just try to see if Icould feel or sense something.
And so my grandmother died whenI was right around 15 or 16
years old. I mean, this womanwas lived in Italy during World
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War Two, they were farmers. Ithink she had a third grade
education. Hard life like theywere, from what I understand,
she started telling me beforeshe passed that, like, I think
they were taken on a train bythe Nazis going somewhere, but
it was bombed by the Americans.
She survived stomach cancer. Andthen she was hit by a drunk
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driver as she was walking. Itwas the night before she had
planned this big party for mymom and dad for their 25th
wedding anniversary. So just areally interesting story and
very interesting life and tragicin many ways. But when this
happened, my mom obviously hadseen her and had, I think, a lot
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of PTSD because she saw herinjured and all of that kind of
stuff. So she was going through,not just losing her mom, but
having a very traumaticexperience of losing her mom.
And what she said to me my mom'sbig on dreams, like we my mom's
my mom's very psychic, butdoesn't like admittedly say
she's psychic, but she's veryshe knows she knows everything.
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And so she had said to me, Jess,I want to have a dream about
grandma. But I can't dream abouther. And I just assumed it was
because of all the trauma shehad gone through. She was having
trouble connecting. So laying inbed one night, and I have the
covers up over my head and I'mlaying on my stomach. And I'm
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like, what I would call prayingto my grandma, I would just sit
and talk to my grandma in myhead. I didn't know if I was
doing anything. I was just likeLet me just talk to her and see
if she can hear me. And I felther this night sitting on the
edge of the bed, rubbing myback. And I'm thinking, like,
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I'm really crazy. Like, thisisn't real. I know that I've
been kind of tuned in and maybeseeing some signs and stuff. But
this is crazy. So now I'm like,let me just take this a step
further and see what happens.
And I'm like, Hey, Mom wants tohave a dream about you. Could
you go visit her in her dreams?
Whatever, walk downstairs forbreakfast the next morning. And
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my mom's like, Hey, I had acrazy dream last night, I was
looking through a keyhole intoyour bedroom. And I saw grandma
sitting on your bed. And I'mjust like, no, like, is this
this is real like this? Is? Thisis real. Is that a coincidence?
Like, what is this? And soagain, I really kept the door
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open. And when I graduated, Iwas I had this curiosity. I'm
like, there has to be more tolife than this. And I feel like
that situation. And thatexperience, really impacted my
ability to see beyond sort ofthe matrix of what I just could,
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I could not get down with like,you have to get you are now an
adult. You have to get a job.
And you have to hate it for thenext 35 years, and then retire
and live life. And I think thatexperience really laid a
foundation for me to see like,there is something beyond this
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matrix we live in.
Jamie Stephens (21:38):
It's another layer and another layer. And
yeah, a lot of layers. That isso cool. I'm curious to do
whenever you felt hurt. Did youturn around and look, or did you
stay under the covers?
Jess Bubbico (21:51):
Hell no. I was like, I don't want to see
anything. Like I do not want tosee anything. But you knew it
was her I knew. Yeah. Yep. Ipersonally think our loved ones
are always around. So if there'sanybody who's listening who's
going like, you know, andeverybody's gonna have varying
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degrees, some people are gonnago, that resonates with me, some
people it won't totally cool.
But I know our loved ones arealways around us who have
crossed over. And so it's like,really allowing yourself too.
It's not even open the mind tome, it's like, open the heart to
open the heart to be like, Okay,I'm here. I'm listening. Show
me, you know, my, you know, mymom, her dad passed away when
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she was young. And she wasasking her dad for a sign. You
know, and again, my mom's like,super psychic, but like, the
most skeptical psychic of all,like, doesn't advertise it. But
I'm, I'm just always like, how,like, how do you know, she just
knows. And she asked for thissign. And that night, my she
came home, I believe this is howthe story goes. She like came
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home. And my dad was watchingStanley to cheese, exploring
Italy or something. And theywere eating this cheese that my
mom has these, like super vividmemories of my grandfather
eating because it's disgusting.
It has like maggots in it. Butit was like delicacy, I guess,
Italy. And she's like, Okay, Igot my sign. I know, he's here
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that it can show up in thesesubtle ways. You know? Yeah.
That's my tangent on those whohave crossed over. But I think
if we allow our, our minds andour hearts to open enough to
know that we're always beingsupported. Yeah.
Jamie Stephens (23:38):
It's there. You just yeah. There's there's the
tuning and the acknowledgementable to receive and I think a
lot of certainly that's not everdiscussed in like a corporate
setting. But also, I think ithas a lot to do with just the
way society as a whole kind offunctions where there's a lot of
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money made by people putting theanswers outside of yourself. You
know, I mean, those billiondollar industries have. Oh,
yeah, made me not like you haveyour own guidance. Yeah, but
that's a whole other.
Jess Bubbico (24:19):
Totally. And I had a client. I believe he was
Chinese. I don't know exactly. Idon't know exactly where he was
from. But I remember talking tohim about intuition and, you
know, ancestors, and he's like,you know, culturally, it's not
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weird for my culture to thinkthat ancestors are still around
because we very much honor theancestors and believe they're
gonna give us science andthere's so many cultures that
are like that, right? Where Ithink we in, at least in
America, and I'm sure many othercountries as well. We are
conditioned to look at outsideof ourselves for answers for
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somebody else to tell us what'sright for us. And that's, that's
how intuition has been weavedinto my business now, because my
business started out very muchgoing like, Okay, I'm gonna, I
mean, it's the polar like I didthe polar ice thing, like, all
the way science to all the wayWhoo. And now my deepest desire
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in the world is for everyone totrust themselves. And to be able
to tune into that aspect ofthemselves, where they feel like
they know where they're going,not from a logical perspective,
but from a heart based intuitiveperspective where they can learn
to really trust like, this feelsright for me, this doesn't feel
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right for me, I know, this iswhat everyone else is doing. But
this is what I know, inside ofmy heart, even if it makes no
logical sense to anybody else.
Jamie Stephens (25:53):
So for people that are listening, how would
you suggest that they go aboutstarting that process of
learning to put away like, whateverybody else is doing? And
really kind of tune in? I mean,knowing kind of your journey and
the shame that comes with it andkind of acknowledging these
things and all of the barriersthat exist, like how do people
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start that process of reallyreceiving that guidance? And
looking for signs, like, wheredo they start?
Jess Bubbico (26:26):
Great question. I think there's many different
entry points for people. And soI'm going to preface this by
saying, notice what feels rightfor you, always because, yeah,
exactly. Because it's like Icould tell you what to do. And
you have your own relationshipto your intuition already. Even
if you don't realize that youdo. The first thing I'm going to
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say is, whatever you can do toget connected to yourself, is
really important. So whetherthat's walking in nature,
dancing, riding a horse, doingart, what are the things in the
activities that help you to feeland like another way to look at
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it is like, what makes me feelthe most alive? The most present
the most in the moment, I have aclient who does hang gliding her
and her partner and she's like,Man, I come away from those hang
gliding sessions just full oflife and full of ideas and full
of possibility. So how can youcreate space in your life for
that, even if it's, you know,your mom, and you've got kids,
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there a way that you can wake up10 minutes earlier than everyone
else and put your feet on theground and connect and take five
to 10 deep breaths, so that youcan just get a moment of pure
presence. Number two, I alwaysinvite people to pull out a
journal, and reflect on thetimes in your life. When you've
had those moments of like, Man,I just knew something. And I
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don't know how I just I feltcalled and direction and I did
it. There's a science to that,even though maybe it doesn't
seem like it in the moment. Howdid things come through for you?
Did you just like you just knew,and you in your body? You just
knew? Did you have a feelingabout it? What was that? Make
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notes and start to pay attentionto when that stuff happens to
you, because it's giving you anindication of something. Number
three, is really starting tolearn and understand the
differences between yourintuition and fear, which is not
easy. And it's a hard one. Andwhat I'm gonna say about this
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is, this is why I love humandesign. For anybody, if you
haven't listened to Jamie'sother podcasts on human design,
I'm sure there's some greatnuggets there about the basics,
so I won't bore you with them.
But go back and listen to thatepisode. Because human design is
a system that helps you tounderstand how you connect with
energy. How you make decisions,like on a practical level, it's
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like how do I make decisions?
How does my intuition speak tome? How am I designed to work
and operate in the world? I usehuman design a lot in this space
of career because it's a reallypowerful tool for that. But it's
like how am I designed to makedecisions and process the world
around me. So it can literallytell you inside of that some
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really basic key functions onhow your intuition operates. So
as an example, you're what'scalled a generator. There's five
archetypes in human design. Themanifester, the manifesting
generator, generator, projectorand reflector and each one is
going to interface with theworld a little bit differently
and manifest and create whateverword you you like using hear
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differently. As a generator, weknow that as an archetype,
you're not here to be somebodythat just Is pushes and make
stuff happen. But actually,there's a beautiful essence of
responding. And really allowingyourself to respond to life and
respond to the signs around you.
And then make your decisions bylistening to your gut. That will
change the game, if you're in aplace going, my mom and dad told
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me that I need to be this inorder to be successful. My
husband or partner is telling methis, or I'm telling myself this
as a result of what someone elseis doing. Human Design gets to
give us just by the very basicsof human design, an
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understanding of coming intoautonomy with our own decision
making process, not from themind, but from the heart, from
the body, and from our ownintuitive wisdom. So do you feel
like for you, you're connectedto your because you have what's
called sacral? Authority.
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There's different authorities inhuman design that speak to how
we make decisions. Do you feellike you're connected to your
your gut and going like a Ha,this feels right? Or doesn't?
Jamie Stephens (31:06):
Yes, and I do have to work? I mean, it's very
intentional to be able to dropinto that, I think what I have
like a Triple Split, channel orwhatever, just man, it's just,
yeah, so I that is where itcomes from. But I have to be
really present and really, intune to be able to drop down and
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like, hear that guidance. Yep,for sure.
Jess Bubbico (31:33):
One of the things I noticed, and again, I want to
just like recognize in thismoment where I'm kind of diving
as a human, we haven't reallygone over the basics, but your
authority and human design toreally help you start to make
decisions based on what's rightfor you, which to me is trusting
our intuition. I noticed withgenerators with sacral authority
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in particular, I think, havingsomebody who you can talk to who
can pay attention to your signsand signals. Because I know when
I'm talking to a generator,oftentimes, they're going like
this. So they're kind of theirbody is actually going Yes, yes,
yes, because their bodies kindof nodding and moving. And then
all of a sudden, I can tell whenthey check out or it doesn't
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align, because they kind ofstopped moving with what I'm
saying. Or like, I can sense theconfusion. So even as we're in
the early processes of learningto trust our intuition, I think
being able to have safe spaces,to talk about things and reflect
with people who have our ownbest interest in mind, they can
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help to really reflect back tous, like, I see that you're
thinking this. And your mind iscoming in and saying this. And I
see that your your body and yourintuition and your emotion and
your energy, like I can feel itdoing this. So while you're
telling me that you're gonnastay at your job for three more
months, because it's hasbenefits, which is why everybody
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cites the excuse of staying intheir job because as benefits,
right, that most of us never usemost of the time. But some
people do. But you know what Imean? Like that's, that tends to
be a big thing. Like, I actuallyfeel because what I'm hearing
you say is that, like you'reready and opportunity is
starting to come and you'regetting super frustrated being
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in this job. And you know,you're ready to fly the coop. So
I think as we start to navigatethat for ourselves, just even
having people who can reflectback to us, where our mind is
getting stuck, but our body ispulling us somewhere else can be
very helpful.
Jamie Stephens (33:37):
You know, everything is always more clear.
Whenever you look back on asituation you're like, Oh, that
makes so much sense. Butwhenever I left corporate the
first time I like it really tookI mean, I had like zero
awareness of any of this wholeworld, but it was just it really
took my body physically tellingme this is no longer an option
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for you to wear, just like I'dpull into the parking lot and
just be like, Oh my god, I'mgonna get sick. And like, Yeah,
over and over and over. I'mlike, Okay, well, clearly, I'm
not pregnant. But it's not thatit's not morning sickness.
There's a correlation here. Soyeah, just listening to your
body and just starting to payattention and to understand like
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how it's talking to you. Andyeah, so funny because the more
I dive into human design, andthe more I try to understand it,
there's just like so many layersupon layers upon layers of
stuff. That makes sense. Oh,wait, how did you most sorry, go
ahead.
Jess Bubbico (34:42):
I would say most people feel affirmed by human
design. More so then it's notabout learning yourself through
human design and becoming thatthing. It's more about the
affirmation of, oh, yeah, Itotally make decisions with my
gut. And that's the idea withhuman design is that it's I
admit to be a body baseddecision. Like we're the only
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animals on the planet that havethis mind that we have in the
way that we do that we don'tfollow our bodily impulses. And
then we get sick, or we getthis, like, I remember was 2017
into 2018. So I was 20,something 2017, I was like 28
years old. And I was on theboard of a networking thing, and
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Charlotte where I was living.
And there was a woman namedKathleen, who lived in this
building, this really nicecomplex, where we would have the
events and I think she was like,50, with color 50 at the time.
And she was never at home. Shewas single, she was always
traveling, working. I was nothappy with where I was living.
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And we had a conversation, wesat down one day, she was the
president, I was VP and she'slike, why don't my lease is
almost up? Why don't we justmove in together at this
apartment complex. I've got sometwo bedrooms open, I'm never
home. You're working. I wasstill in corporate at the time.
And let's just do it. And Iremember telling my friends
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like, I'm about to move in withmy 50 ish year old friend. And
they were all like, What iswrong with you and I was moving
out of I was moving out of likethe downtown area into this
place called South Park, whichis just a little bit outside of
downtown and a little bit nicer.
And I think all my friends werelike, I think you've lost it
like you're talking to you'retalking to dead people. You're
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gonna move in with a 50 year oldwoman outside of downtown, like,
we're concerned about you. Theydidn't really say that. But I
could tell when I was tellingthem what decisions I was
making. Yeah, but it felt soright. Like it in my body. It
felt so right. And I did it. Andhere was the thing like Kathleen
had been, I need to check in onher and talk to her and so long,
Jamie Stephens (36:59):
so call this afternoon. Don't
Jess Bubbico (37:00):
worry. She 100% Well, Kathleen had been she
worked in restaurants. She quit.
She did something crazy. Shebought a curves gym. She ran it
for like two years. I don'tthink it made any money. Maybe
it did, but it didn't it didn'tlike blow up and you know, make
her a multimillionaire, but sheloved it. And she had such an
amazing experience. And then shebecame a financial advisor.
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Right. So she had started manycareers. She was in her 50s She
was wise. I was scared to death.
And I was at that point, it wasthe end of coming to the very
end of my career. You know, mymy corporate time. And I was
driving to work every morningcrying. And I was frustrated.
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And I had no idea. I'm like, Ijust want to have my own
business. But I'm, I'm notmaking enough money to leap yet.
Like, but there was no enough.
That wasn't even really theproblem. It was in my mind, I
don't even know what I waswaiting for. But Kathleen, I
just remember having thisconversation with her. And she
said, Jess, when else are yougoing to do it, you're 28 years
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old, just leap, like, just doit. And she kept saying like,
you know, if you have a plan B,which was my job, you're never
going to make Plan A happen. Sojust leap and she's like, I will
support you, I am here for you.
And not like she was going topay all my bills. But she's
like, if you need something,I've got you. And so this
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decision, where I wasdissatisfied in my living
situation, to move in with awoman who was, you know, 20
something years older than me inan area of town that quote
didn't make sense, was the mostsupportive, nurturing thing I
could have done for myself.
Because she just kept sayingbecause she had the experience.
She had the wisdom she hadbecome an entrepreneur, she's
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like, just keep going, you know,just keep doing keep you've got
this. So I think it's like,again, the body tells us one
thing, like my body was crying.
I was I was having I couldn'tsleep at night, I was having to
like drink wine to sleep, whichis not me at all. No, no
offense, anybody who does it,but like, I just I never knew
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myself as that. And so I knewthat I was avoiding something.
And so yeah, I mean, again, it'slike, intuition isn't logical,
but if we follow where ourbodies are taking us, like, for
me, it's often this. I'memotional authority. So it's
like when my body hits this waveof calm of like, Okay, I'm ready
to collide into this, like, Ihad my emotional experience.
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Should I move in with her?
Should I not move in with her?
Is this a good idea, but not andit was like, the calm comes? I'm
like, Okay, it's time to time todo that thing. And that's where
I think we start to see thatnonlinear movement are the
things that don't necessarilymake sense. In the end, as you
said, and it's the Steve Jobquote, can't always connect the
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dots looking forward, but youcan always connect them looking
back, it was the most logicaldecision because it helped me to
do the thing I actually wantedto do versus what everyone else
was telling me I should do.
Jamie Stephens (40:09):
Tell me about something that really surprised
you. Like, once you made theleap, and you've left the
hospital, you're doing your ownthing. I know you've had like a
four year or so runway to kindof get up to speed, was there
anything that came as a shock,or that you really had to like,
recalibrate once you left,
Jess Bubbico (40:30):
my nervous system had to recalibrate because you
don't make money. And I didn'tmake money in the same way that
I did. So you know, I might makeall of my money at the first
week of the month, and then notmake $1 the rest of the month,
at least that's how it wasworking at that time. So I the
adjusting to not making apaycheck for my nervous system.
And when I say my nervoussystem, I mean, like anxiety, I
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would get anxiety. So thatinconsistency, I think was a
really big shock to me. And itbecame normal, you know, over
time, I'm like, oh, moneydoesn't actually just come every
Friday. That is not how moneyoperates. Money operates in
different ways. It's crazy. So Iwould say that was a big one.
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Making my own schedule to somedegree, I think was I had to
learn how to create boundariesfor myself, because I would just
work 24/7. And so and sometimes,just because I was anxious. So
that was another one for me Ireally had to learn was like how
do I create boundaries around mywork? So I'm not stressed all
the time.
Jamie Stephens (41:35):
And so how were you using the tools that you
were learning at the time? Imean, because it's like a
constant development. So withthe tools that you had at the
time, how were you likerecognizing that anxiety and
knowing what to really do withit? If you remember a great
Jess Bubbico (41:54):
question, yeah, I'm actually like, I'm seeing a
specific situation in my head. Iwas doing a lot of acupuncture,
actually, at the time. And I hadsome really great people around
me. So like, I think I was in agroup coaching program at the
time. Plus, I was getting somesupport on the other end. And
sometimes to be honest, I don'talways recognize it. So I think
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I would love to say like, oh, II'm great at right, I was great
at recognizing it in the moment.
But it's like, he can't reallynecessarily always see when
you're in the middle of a storm.
So I think being able to havepeople around me like my
roommate, or the acupuncturepeople, or these other people
who could give me reflectionsback was very supportive for me.
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And then in terms of the tools,I mean, I've always been pretty
curious and inquisitive aroundmy own mindset and my own
healing and my own process andjourney. So I think I just
always continued to turn inward,and just go like, Okay, what
else is happening here? Okay,what else is happening? How can
I continue to support myself? Sobreathwork, coaching,
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acupuncture, all these differentthings that I always just
followed my intuition. I'm like,What do I need? Okay, this is
what I need. This is what I'mgoing to do today.
Jamie Stephens (43:07):
So tell me how you are helping people now what
is what is your, your thingthese days?
Jess Bubbico (43:14):
Yeah. So I work with entrepreneurs who are in
the solopreneurs space, who havesome clients, they might not
have like a full on fullyexpanded business, but they're
working with some clients doingwork that they love. So I've got
like, as an example, somebodyright now who's a massage
therapist, or she'll have awoman who's an artist, a lot of
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service based entrepreneurs,also who are in like, the
coaching space, things of thatnature. And I support them using
the gene keys in human design,to understand their own
energetic roadmap of how they'redesigned to create their
business. And I really help themto there's so many How To rules,
quote, unquote, I think in thecoaching industry, and in the
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self help online industry, thatI think have good intention, but
I find get people very stuck intheir heads because they're
like, Oh, I'm supposed to havean opt in, or I'm supposed to
have a group program orwhatever. And I really love
helping people step outside ofthe box of the half twos, and
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actually step into the want twosand the desires to and create
their businesses in ways thatare maybe outside of the box and
innovative, but very much trueto them. That's really I do one
on one. I also have some groupsgoing. And things are
continually evolving andshifting and changing and
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growing. So I've got my podcastas well. But yeah, I really love
helping people do what's truefor them. Because I think we're
in a massive time of everybody'sdiscovering, like, oh,
differentiation, I'm different.
I do things differently. Butthen what we're doing is we're
going at least in the coachingspace Self Help space, it's
like, oh, I'm different, I canbe me. How do I fit this into
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the box to make a lot of moneydoing this business? And it's
like, that's completely againstthe whole purpose of why you're
stepping out of corporate is notto fit yourself into another
box, but to create your ownself.
Jamie Stephens (45:18):
Which is a big, big ever learning lesson.
Absolutely. I mean, as a, as anew entrepreneur, you do
gravitate towards somebodytelling you what to do, like,
tell me this, tell me this,because you don't have that
trust built up within yourself,which is, you know, there's a
whole breaking down of what usedto work or how you worked, or
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how you showed up in the world,and then kind of that rebuilding
and rebuilding of that trustthat, like, once you get to that
place, that it's like, not whateverybody else tells you what to
do, or the rules or the shoulds,and all of those things. I mean,
that is a challenge to listen toit, because it's like, Oh, you
want me to do what? Like? Yes,no, is that gonna make me any
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money? So? Yeah, so that's, it'sa really valuable service
Jess Bubbico (46:11):
there. I think we're taught to look for
structures to fit into. And thetruth is, we need structures. I
mean, everything in nature has astructure, you know, you cut a
tree open, and you're like, Oh,there's the rings. This is what
it looks like. There's a rootsystem like, yeah, my belief is,
let's start with the creativityfirst, and then build the
structure around it. You know,but that puts you out on the
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limb. Because if you fail, allyou have to do is to look at
yourself and go, Well, why didthat fails? There's something
wrong with me versus, you know,but that builds massive self
trust, massive self love. Andagain, it invites people in, I
think, into new possibilities.
So I love it. All right. Do
Jamie Stephens (46:49):
you want to tell people where they can find you,
and any exciting things that arecoming up in the next couple of
months that you have going on?
Jess Bubbico (46:57):
Absolutely. So you can find me on Instagram at love
your Woo, who? Over my websiteis also at love your woot.com?
In terms of exciting thingscoming up? I'm not exactly sure.
There's some stuff that'sevolving. And I think there's
going to be a lot of newproducts and services coming
out. But I'm not exactly surewhat they are. I'm kind of in
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the creative process as of now.
So I offer something called asolopreneur activation session
where we go through your humandesign and Gene keys to get a
really good foundation of whatyou're here to do in the world
who you're here to be. There'llbe more to come but it's kind of
creatively being birthed in themoment. Love it.
Jamie Stephens (47:36):
All right. Well, Jeff, thank you so much for your
time today. I really appreciateall your wisdom that you brought
with you. So thank you.
Jess Bubbico (47:43):
Thank you. Big thank
Jamie Stephens (47:45):
you to Jess for being present with me and
letting us hear her story andall her lessons. Some of the key
takeaways I want to highlightare number one, out of
alignment. Many people make thedecision to walk away from jobs
because of a misalignment ofvalues. Corporations may say
they care about people, but whenthey make decisions strictly
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from a financial perspective, itfeels incongruent. Number two,
the shame game. When you walkaway from a traditional path to
explore the more quote unquotewoowoo side of your business,
you might come up with a lot ofshame or embarrassment. Meet
yourself with love andcompassion as you do the
internal work to unravel thatidentity and release the shame.
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Number three, intuition can bedeveloped. In other cultures,
communing with those that havepassed is not uncommon.
Intuition and connection aregifts that can be developed.
There are teachers and guidesthat can assist you and you
don't have to run away from thewisdom being offered. Number
four, receive guidance from yourintuition. Connect to yourself,
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journal out your knowings learnthe difference between fear and
intuition. And just a helpfultip intuition is never frantic
or worried. All as well. Always.
Number five, work with yourhuman design. Human Design is a
system that helps you understandhow you operate in the world.
Applying this in a businesssense you learn how your
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intuition speaks and how to gainaccess to your own wisdom. Then
you can make decisions from aplace of autonomy and heart.
Number six, listen to your bodytalk. Whether it's a full body
yes or a full body No, listen towhat your body is telling you.
Overriding with your mind whatyour body really wants and needs
tends to lead to bad outcomes.
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Number seven, build yourcreative structure. As a new
entrepreneur, you'll need todevelop a new structure that
supports the business you havequestion all of the half twos
and know that you can create anout of the box business that's
true to you. And if you needsomebody to help, just reach out
to just okay, that is it forthis week. Thanks so much to
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just for being on the show todayI have all her links in the show
notes so you can learn to loveyour wound too. If you enjoyed
this episode via dog go drop mea five star rating. There's a
link in the show notes for thatas well. Thank you so much for
being here. I hope you have afantastic week.
I remember telling my parents Hey, I'm starting to
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do intuitive readings. My momwas familiar with psychics
because she had gone to psychicswhen I was younger. And she was
just like, okay, maybe don'tlead with that on a date. And
I'm like, okay, but all thatshame, like, had kind of
crystallized into not fullyliving in congruence with myself
as well, because I was carryingthis like, people are going to
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think this is weird. So I thinkfor me, it's still this gradual
unfolding process as I do thiswork of Okay, notice when shame
comes up, notice whenembarrassment comes up. Notice,
you know my business is Loveyour Woo, my mom said to me the
other day, oh, I was tellingsome friends about your
business. And some people askedme if woo was a vagina. I'm
like, No, it's not a vagina.
Jamie Stephens (00:50):
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of
breaking up a corporate. Eachweek I chat with everyday women
that ditch their nine to five tobet on themselves. We break down
their journey intoentrepreneurship, unpack the
lessons learned and create thevision of how this life gets to
be if you're willing to getuncomfortable and step into your
potential. I'm your host, JamieRiene, to time corporate escapee
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and coach to burnout womenlooking to plan their escape.
Let's go.
Hello, and welcome back toanother episode of Breaking up
with corporate. Today I haveJess Bubbico, who is a keynote
speaker and acclaimed podcasthost and founder of the global
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love your woo community. Jess,welcome to the show.
Jess Bubbico (01:38):
Thank you so much for having me here today. Yeah,
so
Jamie Stephens (01:41):
we were just chit chatting a little bit about
kind of your background. So I'lljust let you get right into it.
And tell us a little bit aboutwhat your background was, and
kind of the corporate setting.
And then we'll get into whatyou're doing today.
Jess Bubbico (01:55):
Absolutely. So I started out in the world of
speech therapy, speech languagepathology. And I actually
started out in the schoolsetting. So I graduated from
graduate school and went rightinto the schools, which is not
the same as corporate, but I candefinitely say there's a lot of
politics in a school and a lotof drama that can happen in a
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school, especially when probablyI want to say like 97% of the
school was women. So that bringsits own really unique sort of
dynamics. And then I ended upmoving into so I went to Penn
State for undergrad. And then Iwent back up to Connecticut
where my family lives and did mygraduate schooling and
Connecticut, southernConnecticut State University.
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And then I ended up going downto North Carolina, like I need
to change I need to get out ofthe Northeast, the winters are
so cold, I'm over it, like I'mgonna fly the coop and head
south. And so I had always Istarted in the schools, because
it was a bit easier as a brandnew clinician to get a job in
the schools, you have to dosomething called a clinical
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fellowship year, your firstyear. And so it's much easier to
get supervision in the schools.
But I knew I wanted to work inthe hospitals. And down in North
Carolina, I worked forCarolina's health care system,
which is like the largesthospital system in the
Carolinas. And so I ended upgoing in and starting to work
with brain injury patients afterI had gotten a little bit of
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experience under my belt in theschools. And I made the leap
into that corporate morecorporate environment,
everything in the hospitals, youknow, I moved around a little
bit within the system. But thething that I kept on seeing that
felt really disheartening to mewas that, and I understand this
from a financial perspective,but most people go into speech
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therapy because they loveworking with people, they want
to help people. You know, forme, in particular, I loved being
able to be on a rehab floor andsee someone go from, you know, I
worked both acutely in thehospital. So if somebody had a
stroke, I would go in and Iwould do a swallow evaluation
with them to see if they werehaving any issues with you know,
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breathing, swallowing, etc. Andthen I got to see them move on
to the rehab floor, and then Icould work with them there and
get to kind of be with themalong their journey. You get to
meet the family, you get to getinvolved for those who have
family support. And yet behindthe scenes, what was would
happen is these decisions wouldbe made that really, and again,
I understand the financialaspect of things, especially now
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running my own business, butit's like, these things are not
in the best interest of thepatient. I don't personally
think a lot of them when Ieventually transitioned back
into because I went from thehospital to a hospital rehab,
outpatient rehab outside of thehospital and was working with
kids again, it was like, youknow, we had low income families
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that were coming in that hadtrouble with transportation. It
was challenging for them to getthere. And they'd say, Well,
when people aren't sure up,we're going to take away people
having a recurring scheduleevery week where they get to
come the same time, the sameplace. Because they're both
financially it doesn't makesense. Yeah. So they're wanting
these families who sometimesdon't have transportation, maybe
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mom or dad are working, or it'sthe single parent, they're
working multiple jobs, andthey're going, well, these
people are gonna have to call atthe beginning of the week, and
get an appointment. And you'relike, How feasible is this, this
isn't actually serving theclient in the highest way
possible. I understand from afinancial perspective, what's
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going on, but maybe we need tolook at how the money is being
divided up around who's makingwhat within the hospital system,
or whatever it may be. And Iactually ended up leaving to
pursue my own business, like,right as this change was
happening, because I'm like, Ican't I it just didn't align
with my values. And I was like,I can't do this anymore. And not
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to mention, I had a hard time inthe hospitals, because I knew a
lot about nutrition. And I hadbeen a fitness instructor
growing up, you know, as I wasin college, grad school, I
needed to make money became afitness instructor. And I'm
like, we're serving ham andcheese sandwiches on white
bread, and Coca Cola to somebodywho's trying to heal their
bodies. So I want to zoom outand say, I was very grateful for
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being in that more corporateenvironment. Because when
you're, as a speech therapist,you know, people open up private
practices that are smaller, andthat are
more connected with the heart ofspeech therapy in the first
place. So being able to go intothat corporate environment and
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see like, Okay, this is themachine, this is what it looks
like, I was grateful for it,because there were certain
things that it provided for me,where I could go, Okay, there's
some stability here. And I gotto learn a lot of things that I
might not have been able tolearn in a private practice.
Because, you know, they hostedworkshops and classes, right. So
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it's like, okay, got some reallycool access to free education or
these different things. But Ithink at the end of the day, the
reason I chose to break up withcorporate was because it really
didn't align with my valuesystem. And I couldn't get
behind saying one thing. Andhaving all this beautiful
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marketing, and people huggingeach other, and hospitals at
whatever, and all care, and thenbehind the scenes, watching all
of this conversation happenaround money and structure and
all the stuff that doesn'tnecessarily to me feel like it's
actually aligned. So I, Igracefully exited, because I'm
(07:45):
like, This just doesn't, doesn'tfit. So it's usually
Jamie Stephens (07:49):
rarely about the job itself. Whenever people
leave, you know, it's all ofthat crap that happens behind
the scenes and the incongruence.
And the Yeah, I mean, I get allof that. So whenever you left,
did you go straight into speechtherapy at your own private
practice? Or what were you goingin a different direction,
Jess Bubbico (08:09):
I ended up going in a different direction. So
actually, the first day of myschool job, I'm gonna say, the
first week of my school job, Iremember calling my dad and I'm
like, I would think I was 24 atthe time, and I was like, I
don't think I can do this. Howmany three years like this is
day one, how many more years? DoI have to do this for? Probably
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a solid like 35 to 40. I'm like,Oh, my God, I can't like there's
just no way. And around thatsame time. Honestly, about a
year before I finished speechtherapy school, I started kind
of going through my ownspiritual awakening of sorts. I
didn't know that that's what itwas at the time. But I broke up
out of a like long term, sevenyear relationship, young love.
(08:52):
And I started to like, exploremyself. And I'm like, why? Who
am I? What's important to me?
And so when I finished school, Ihad that realization of like, I
don't think I can work forsomebody else, 40 hours a week,
in the same therapy room for thenext 35 years, like I will, I
will die. Yeah. And so I startedpursuing different things
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outside of the therapy realm,because as much as I loved
speech therapy, and I still do,there's, I mean, it's a
beautiful career. There werelimitations within it. So as an
example, like I'd be workingwith a child, maybe on
articulation stuff, but there'smassive behavioral issues that
are happening. And those massivebehavioral issues that are
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happening are happening becauseof parental stuff that's going
on behind the scenes. So Istarted to see these limitations
of like, Am I making the mostimpact here? Like can I actually
help to the highest degree ofwhat I love doing in this
setting? So that's when Istarted really learning more
about like I said, I had beenhad a fitness background,
learning about nutrition, mentalhealth, spirituality. So when I
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transitioned out of corporate, Ihad actually started on the
side, my own business, prettymuch if I started my corporate
job in 2013, or started mycareer in 2013 2014, I was
already starting a business, youknow, because I knew I had that
entrepreneurial mindset, and Iam creative. And I, yeah, I, you
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know, I'd always worked multiplejobs, too. So I transitioned out
into my own little intuitivewitchy woowoo business, which
was the exact opposite of what Iwas doing, which came with a lot
of its own baggage. A lot oflike, shame, embarrassment, like
I was supposed to be this likespeech therapist talking about
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brain injury, and maybe one dayaspire to take over a, you know,
department or hospital orsomething. And now I'm talking
about, like, intuition and yourfeelings and woowoo stuff. So I
had, which is why my business iscalled Love Your will, because
that's the process that I wentthrough was like, honestly, it's
funny, because I'm talking aboutit. I'm because I don't tell
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these stories. Often. I'm like,a lot of shame, a lot of
embarrassment. Lot of yeah, alot of internal work went into
it. So yeah, that's what Istepped out of into,
Jamie Stephens (11:21):
how long did that take you to kind of realize
number one, that's what washappening, whenever you
transitioned with the shame andall of that. Tell me a little
bit about that process, kind ofthat the undoing of the speech,
therapist identity and kind ofstepping into this new role. I
know that that comes with, likeyou said, its own baggage. But
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tell me, tell me more aboutthat.
Jess Bubbico (11:46):
Yeah, it's, it's interesting, because if I can
actually rewind a little bit, Ihad always, as a kid, stayed
very connected to I believeeverybody is intuitive. I know,
everybody's intuitive. And Iknow everybody's intuitive in
their own way. And when I lookat intuition, really what I'm
just looking at, it's not aboutlike having to be the super
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ultra spiritual person who sitson the side of a mountain or
does Iosco, or whatever. Youknow, to me, intuition is, those
little synchronicities or thoselittle things that happen, that
can't be explained by logic. Sothe example of, I'm thinking
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about somebody that I haven'ttalked to in a while, and then
they call me, and I'm like, Wow,that's crazy. I was just
thinking about you, or, youknow, things like this. When I
was a kid, I had stayed prettyconnected to intuition. And I
specifically had a lot ofsituations with people who had
crossed over, coming back andvisiting, and having the ability
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to connect with them. Now, Iwasn't sitting again, I didn't
have a spiritual family. I camefrom like a Roman Catholic
Connecticut family that waslike, don't tell people about
that. That's weird, or like,Yeah, whatever. So I can
remember, in 2014, I startedworking with a mentor on
intuition, because I called apsychic and was like, Hey, I
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hate my job. I don't know whatto do. I'm lost. I was going
through like a massive darknight of the soul. And by the
way, I think I can talk to deadpeople, right? Like, I'm like, I
yeah, I'm like, but I also lovelogic and science. So I don't
want to become one of thosewoowoo people that I see, you
know, the judgment was there,right? So she was like, she was
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really cool. She's a greatfriend now. And she, she was
just like, I teach classes onthis. And I can support you with
kind of opening up to andunderstanding it. I think a lot
of people fear intuition,because we don't have a
structure and a scaffold, tounderstand it. And as human
beings, we need to be able tounderstand things and make
logical sense of them. Which, tome intuition. Now, as I
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understand it is actually thereis a foundation, there is a
structure, there's a way inwhich things kind of happen. So
anyways, as I studied with her,and I was opening up more and
more to my own gifts, it waskind of a gradual having to deal
with because I, this all startedin 2014. And then I stepped out
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four years later from thecorporate scene. So I was
building a foundation for myselfas I was stepping out. So the
process for me was really like,you know, telling my best
friend, like, hey, remember whenI was younger, and I had that
weird thing happened with thatdream with my grandma that my
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mom saw at the same time, and Iwas freaking out because it was
super weird. And I maybe couldconnect with her after she had
died. Well, now I'm starting todo intuitive readings. They're
like, okay, cool. We support it.
Thankfully, we support you. Soit wasn't this sort of like
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black and white, like, leap out.
It was a gradual process. But Iremember telling my parents,
hey, I'm starting to dointuitive readings. My mom was
familiar with psychics becauseshe had gone to psychics when I
was younger. And she was justlike, okay, maybe don't lead
with that on a date. And I'mlike, okay, but that all that
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shame, like, had had kind ofcrystallized into not fully
living in congruence with myselfas well, because I was carrying
this, like, people are gonnathink this is weird. So I think
for me, it's still this gradualunfolding process as I do this
work of like, Okay, notice whenshame comes up. Notice when
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embarrassment comes up, notice,you know, my businesses love
your Whoo, my mom said to me theother day, oh, I was telling
some friends about yourbusiness. And some people asked
me if we was a vagina. I'm like,No, it's not a vagina. But I get
why you think that right?
Because we call private partsweird things to children. Right?
So I think for me, it's it'sthis constant. Like, I'm much
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more comfortable with it now.
But I think the process for mehas been keep going inward, keep
turning towards your discomfort,like, don't run from it, because
I could run from it and go rightback to a speech therapy job
because I still have my licenseif I wanted to, but sometimes
the not. So the path is the mostenriching path.
Jamie Stephens (16:33):
For sure. Yeah, that just that brings up so much
other than trying to figure outlike, which direction I want to
go. That because I am, I didhear this story with your
grandma, on the one podcast thatI chose to listen to before
this. So can you tell us alittle bit about that story? And
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then we'll kind of, we'll backinto all of my questions.
Jess Bubbico (16:58):
Absolutely. So I'm born on the same day as my mom
and my grandma. So I'm bornMarch 22. So as my mom and my
mom's mom, so already, they're,like, kind of weird and crazy,
right? Like who's born on thesame day as their mom and
grandma? Turns out BrooklynDecker is for anybody out
there's a Grace and FrankieYeah. Yeah, it was like holy
(17:20):
crap. Who knew? When I wasyounger, right, in the middle
school years, like, sixth toeighth grade, I lost a lot of
pee, a lot of people died thatwere significant in my life. And
I remember at that timethinking, like, you know, I've
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seen psychic shows, I've seenthe sixth sense. Like, I wonder
if it's possible to stayconnected to these people. And
so, this is funny, because I'mreflecting on this. Now, I don't
know that I've ever said thisout loud. But like, I think
there was a natural curiosity inmy mind. That was like, what
happens when people die? And,you know, how do we stay
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connected? And so I think Iwould just try to see things or
I would just try to see if Icould feel or sense something.
And so my grandmother died whenI was right around 15 or 16
years old. I mean, this womanwas lived in Italy during World
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War Two, they were farmers. Ithink she had a third grade
education. Hard life like theywere, from what I understand,
she started telling me beforeshe passed that, like, I think
they were taken on a train bythe Nazis going somewhere, but
it was bombed by the Americans.
She survived stomach cancer. Andthen she was hit by a drunk
(18:45):
driver as she was walking. Itwas the night before she had
planned this big party for mymom and dad for their 25th
wedding anniversary. So just areally interesting story and
very interesting life and tragicin many ways. But when this
happened, my mom obviously hadseen her and had, I think, a lot
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of PTSD because she saw herinjured and all of that kind of
stuff. So she was going through,not just losing her mom, but
having a very traumaticexperience of losing her mom.
And what she said to me my mom'sbig on dreams, like we my mom's
my mom's very psychic, butdoesn't like admittedly say
she's psychic, but she's veryshe knows she knows everything.
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And so she had said to me, Jess,I want to have a dream about
grandma. But I can't dream abouther. And I just assumed it was
because of all the trauma shehad gone through. She was having
trouble connecting. So laying inbed one night, and I have the
covers up over my head and I'mlaying on my stomach. And I'm
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like, what I would call prayingto my grandma, I would just sit
and talk to my grandma in myhead. I didn't know if I was
doing anything. I was just likeLet me just talk to her and see
if she can hear me. And I felther this night sitting on the
edge of the bed, rubbing myback. And I'm thinking, like,
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I'm really crazy. Like, thisisn't real. I know that I've
been kind of tuned in and maybeseeing some signs and stuff. But
this is crazy. So now I'm like,let me just take this a step
further and see what happens.
And I'm like, Hey, Mom wants tohave a dream about you. Could
you go visit her in her dreams?
Whatever, walk downstairs forbreakfast the next morning. And
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my mom's like, Hey, I had acrazy dream last night, I was
looking through a keyhole intoyour bedroom. And I saw grandma
sitting on your bed. And I'mjust like, no, like, is this
this is real like this? Is? Thisis real. Is that a coincidence?
Like, what is this? And soagain, I really kept the door
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open. And when I graduated, Iwas I had this curiosity. I'm
like, there has to be more tolife than this. And I feel like
that situation. And thatexperience, really impacted my
ability to see beyond sort ofthe matrix of what I just could,
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I could not get down with like,you have to get you are now an
adult. You have to get a job.
And you have to hate it for thenext 35 years, and then retire
and live life. And I think thatexperience really laid a
foundation for me to see like,there is something beyond this
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matrix we live in.
Jamie Stephens (21:38):
It's another layer and another layer. And
yeah, a lot of layers. That isso cool. I'm curious to do
whenever you felt hurt. Did youturn around and look, or did you
stay under the covers?
Jess Bubbico (21:51):
Hell no. I was like, I don't want to see
anything. Like I do not want tosee anything. But you knew it
was her I knew. Yeah. Yep. Ipersonally think our loved ones
are always around. So if there'sanybody who's listening who's
going like, you know, andeverybody's gonna have varying
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degrees, some people are gonnago, that resonates with me, some
people it won't totally cool.
But I know our loved ones arealways around us who have
crossed over. And so it's like,really allowing yourself too.
It's not even open the mind tome, it's like, open the heart to
open the heart to be like, Okay,I'm here. I'm listening. Show
me, you know, my, you know, mymom, her dad passed away when
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she was young. And she wasasking her dad for a sign. You
know, and again, my mom's like,super psychic, but like, the
most skeptical psychic of all,like, doesn't advertise it. But
I'm, I'm just always like, how,like, how do you know, she just
knows. And she asked for thissign. And that night, my she
came home, I believe this is howthe story goes. She like came
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home. And my dad was watchingStanley to cheese, exploring
Italy or something. And theywere eating this cheese that my
mom has these, like super vividmemories of my grandfather
eating because it's disgusting.
It has like maggots in it. Butit was like delicacy, I guess,
Italy. And she's like, Okay, Igot my sign. I know, he's here
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that it can show up in thesesubtle ways. You know? Yeah.
That's my tangent on those whohave crossed over. But I think
if we allow our, our minds andour hearts to open enough to
know that we're always beingsupported. Yeah.
Jamie Stephens (23:38):
It's there. You just yeah. There's there's the
tuning and the acknowledgementable to receive and I think a
lot of certainly that's not everdiscussed in like a corporate
setting. But also, I think ithas a lot to do with just the
way society as a whole kind offunctions where there's a lot of
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money made by people putting theanswers outside of yourself. You
know, I mean, those billiondollar industries have. Oh,
yeah, made me not like you haveyour own guidance. Yeah, but
that's a whole other.
Jess Bubbico (24:19):
Totally. And I had a client. I believe he was
Chinese. I don't know exactly. Idon't know exactly where he was
from. But I remember talking tohim about intuition and, you
know, ancestors, and he's like,you know, culturally, it's not
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weird for my culture to thinkthat ancestors are still around
because we very much honor theancestors and believe they're
gonna give us science andthere's so many cultures that
are like that, right? Where Ithink we in, at least in
America, and I'm sure many othercountries as well. We are
conditioned to look at outsideof ourselves for answers for
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somebody else to tell us what'sright for us. And that's, that's
how intuition has been weavedinto my business now, because my
business started out very muchgoing like, Okay, I'm gonna, I
mean, it's the polar like I didthe polar ice thing, like, all
the way science to all the wayWhoo. And now my deepest desire
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in the world is for everyone totrust themselves. And to be able
to tune into that aspect ofthemselves, where they feel like
they know where they're going,not from a logical perspective,
but from a heart based intuitiveperspective where they can learn
to really trust like, this feelsright for me, this doesn't feel
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right for me, I know, this iswhat everyone else is doing. But
this is what I know, inside ofmy heart, even if it makes no
logical sense to anybody else.
Jamie Stephens (25:53):
So for people that are listening, how would
you suggest that they go aboutstarting that process of
learning to put away like, whateverybody else is doing? And
really kind of tune in? I mean,knowing kind of your journey and
the shame that comes with it andkind of acknowledging these
things and all of the barriersthat exist, like how do people
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start that process of reallyreceiving that guidance? And
looking for signs, like, wheredo they start?
Jess Bubbico (26:26):
Great question. I think there's many different
entry points for people. And soI'm going to preface this by
saying, notice what feels rightfor you, always because, yeah,
exactly. Because it's like Icould tell you what to do. And
you have your own relationshipto your intuition already. Even
if you don't realize that youdo. The first thing I'm going to
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say is, whatever you can do toget connected to yourself, is
really important. So whetherthat's walking in nature,
dancing, riding a horse, doingart, what are the things in the
activities that help you to feeland like another way to look at
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it is like, what makes me feelthe most alive? The most present
the most in the moment, I have aclient who does hang gliding her
and her partner and she's like,Man, I come away from those hang
gliding sessions just full oflife and full of ideas and full
of possibility. So how can youcreate space in your life for
that, even if it's, you know,your mom, and you've got kids,
(27:31):
there a way that you can wake up10 minutes earlier than everyone
else and put your feet on theground and connect and take five
to 10 deep breaths, so that youcan just get a moment of pure
presence. Number two, I alwaysinvite people to pull out a
journal, and reflect on thetimes in your life. When you've
had those moments of like, Man,I just knew something. And I
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don't know how I just I feltcalled and direction and I did
it. There's a science to that,even though maybe it doesn't
seem like it in the moment. Howdid things come through for you?
Did you just like you just knew,and you in your body? You just
knew? Did you have a feelingabout it? What was that? Make
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notes and start to pay attentionto when that stuff happens to
you, because it's giving you anindication of something. Number
three, is really starting tolearn and understand the
differences between yourintuition and fear, which is not
easy. And it's a hard one. Andwhat I'm gonna say about this
(28:38):
is, this is why I love humandesign. For anybody, if you
haven't listened to Jamie'sother podcasts on human design,
I'm sure there's some greatnuggets there about the basics,
so I won't bore you with them.
But go back and listen to thatepisode. Because human design is
a system that helps you tounderstand how you connect with
energy. How you make decisions,like on a practical level, it's
(29:03):
like how do I make decisions?
How does my intuition speak tome? How am I designed to work
and operate in the world? I usehuman design a lot in this space
of career because it's a reallypowerful tool for that. But it's
like how am I designed to makedecisions and process the world
around me. So it can literallytell you inside of that some
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really basic key functions onhow your intuition operates. So
as an example, you're what'scalled a generator. There's five
archetypes in human design. Themanifester, the manifesting
generator, generator, projectorand reflector and each one is
going to interface with theworld a little bit differently
and manifest and create whateverword you you like using hear
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differently. As a generator, weknow that as an archetype,
you're not here to be somebodythat just Is pushes and make
stuff happen. But actually,there's a beautiful essence of
responding. And really allowingyourself to respond to life and
respond to the signs around you.
And then make your decisions bylistening to your gut. That will
change the game, if you're in aplace going, my mom and dad told
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me that I need to be this inorder to be successful. My
husband or partner is telling methis, or I'm telling myself this
as a result of what someone elseis doing. Human Design gets to
give us just by the very basicsof human design, an
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understanding of coming intoautonomy with our own decision
making process, not from themind, but from the heart, from
the body, and from our ownintuitive wisdom. So do you feel
like for you, you're connectedto your because you have what's
called sacral? Authority.
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There's different authorities inhuman design that speak to how
we make decisions. Do you feellike you're connected to your
your gut and going like a Ha,this feels right? Or doesn't?
Jamie Stephens (31:06):
Yes, and I do have to work? I mean, it's very
intentional to be able to dropinto that, I think what I have
like a Triple Split, channel orwhatever, just man, it's just,
yeah, so I that is where itcomes from. But I have to be
really present and really, intune to be able to drop down and
(31:28):
like, hear that guidance. Yep,for sure.
Jess Bubbico (31:33):
One of the things I noticed, and again, I want to
just like recognize in thismoment where I'm kind of diving
as a human, we haven't reallygone over the basics, but your
authority and human design toreally help you start to make
decisions based on what's rightfor you, which to me is trusting
our intuition. I noticed withgenerators with sacral authority
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in particular, I think, havingsomebody who you can talk to who
can pay attention to your signsand signals. Because I know when
I'm talking to a generator,oftentimes, they're going like
this. So they're kind of theirbody is actually going Yes, yes,
yes, because their bodies kindof nodding and moving. And then
all of a sudden, I can tell whenthey check out or it doesn't
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align, because they kind ofstopped moving with what I'm
saying. Or like, I can sense theconfusion. So even as we're in
the early processes of learningto trust our intuition, I think
being able to have safe spaces,to talk about things and reflect
with people who have our ownbest interest in mind, they can
(32:38):
help to really reflect back tous, like, I see that you're
thinking this. And your mind iscoming in and saying this. And I
see that your your body and yourintuition and your emotion and
your energy, like I can feel itdoing this. So while you're
telling me that you're gonnastay at your job for three more
months, because it's hasbenefits, which is why everybody
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cites the excuse of staying intheir job because as benefits,
right, that most of us never usemost of the time. But some
people do. But you know what Imean? Like that's, that tends to
be a big thing. Like, I actuallyfeel because what I'm hearing
you say is that, like you'reready and opportunity is
starting to come and you'regetting super frustrated being
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in this job. And you know,you're ready to fly the coop. So
I think as we start to navigatethat for ourselves, just even
having people who can reflectback to us, where our mind is
getting stuck, but our body ispulling us somewhere else can be
very helpful.
Jamie Stephens (33:37):
You know, everything is always more clear.
Whenever you look back on asituation you're like, Oh, that
makes so much sense. Butwhenever I left corporate the
first time I like it really tookI mean, I had like zero
awareness of any of this wholeworld, but it was just it really
took my body physically tellingme this is no longer an option
(34:00):
for you to wear, just like I'dpull into the parking lot and
just be like, Oh my god, I'mgonna get sick. And like, Yeah,
over and over and over. I'mlike, Okay, well, clearly, I'm
not pregnant. But it's not thatit's not morning sickness.
There's a correlation here. Soyeah, just listening to your
body and just starting to payattention and to understand like
(34:23):
how it's talking to you. Andyeah, so funny because the more
I dive into human design, andthe more I try to understand it,
there's just like so many layersupon layers upon layers of
stuff. That makes sense. Oh,wait, how did you most sorry, go
ahead.
Jess Bubbico (34:42):
I would say most people feel affirmed by human
design. More so then it's notabout learning yourself through
human design and becoming thatthing. It's more about the
affirmation of, oh, yeah, Itotally make decisions with my
gut. And that's the idea withhuman design is that it's I
admit to be a body baseddecision. Like we're the only
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animals on the planet that havethis mind that we have in the
way that we do that we don'tfollow our bodily impulses. And
then we get sick, or we getthis, like, I remember was 2017
into 2018. So I was 20,something 2017, I was like 28
years old. And I was on theboard of a networking thing, and
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Charlotte where I was living.
And there was a woman namedKathleen, who lived in this
building, this really nicecomplex, where we would have the
events and I think she was like,50, with color 50 at the time.
And she was never at home. Shewas single, she was always
traveling, working. I was nothappy with where I was living.
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And we had a conversation, wesat down one day, she was the
president, I was VP and she'slike, why don't my lease is
almost up? Why don't we justmove in together at this
apartment complex. I've got sometwo bedrooms open, I'm never
home. You're working. I wasstill in corporate at the time.
And let's just do it. And Iremember telling my friends
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like, I'm about to move in withmy 50 ish year old friend. And
they were all like, What iswrong with you and I was moving
out of I was moving out of likethe downtown area into this
place called South Park, whichis just a little bit outside of
downtown and a little bit nicer.
And I think all my friends werelike, I think you've lost it
like you're talking to you'retalking to dead people. You're
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gonna move in with a 50 year oldwoman outside of downtown, like,
we're concerned about you. Theydidn't really say that. But I
could tell when I was tellingthem what decisions I was
making. Yeah, but it felt soright. Like it in my body. It
felt so right. And I did it. Andhere was the thing like Kathleen
had been, I need to check in onher and talk to her and so long,
Jamie Stephens (36:59):
so call this afternoon. Don't
Jess Bubbico (37:00):
worry. She 100% Well, Kathleen had been she
worked in restaurants. She quit.
She did something crazy. Shebought a curves gym. She ran it
for like two years. I don'tthink it made any money. Maybe
it did, but it didn't it didn'tlike blow up and you know, make
her a multimillionaire, but sheloved it. And she had such an
amazing experience. And then shebecame a financial advisor.
(37:22):
Right. So she had started manycareers. She was in her 50s She
was wise. I was scared to death.
And I was at that point, it wasthe end of coming to the very
end of my career. You know, mymy corporate time. And I was
driving to work every morningcrying. And I was frustrated.
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And I had no idea. I'm like, Ijust want to have my own
business. But I'm, I'm notmaking enough money to leap yet.
Like, but there was no enough.
That wasn't even really theproblem. It was in my mind, I
don't even know what I waswaiting for. But Kathleen, I
just remember having thisconversation with her. And she
said, Jess, when else are yougoing to do it, you're 28 years
(38:06):
old, just leap, like, just doit. And she kept saying like,
you know, if you have a plan B,which was my job, you're never
going to make Plan A happen. Sojust leap and she's like, I will
support you, I am here for you.
And not like she was going topay all my bills. But she's
like, if you need something,I've got you. And so this
(38:29):
decision, where I wasdissatisfied in my living
situation, to move in with awoman who was, you know, 20
something years older than me inan area of town that quote
didn't make sense, was the mostsupportive, nurturing thing I
could have done for myself.
Because she just kept sayingbecause she had the experience.
She had the wisdom she hadbecome an entrepreneur, she's
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like, just keep going, you know,just keep doing keep you've got
this. So I think it's like,again, the body tells us one
thing, like my body was crying.
I was I was having I couldn'tsleep at night, I was having to
like drink wine to sleep, whichis not me at all. No, no
offense, anybody who does it,but like, I just I never knew
(39:13):
myself as that. And so I knewthat I was avoiding something.
And so yeah, I mean, again, it'slike, intuition isn't logical,
but if we follow where ourbodies are taking us, like, for
me, it's often this. I'memotional authority. So it's
like when my body hits this waveof calm of like, Okay, I'm ready
to collide into this, like, Ihad my emotional experience.
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Should I move in with her?
Should I not move in with her?
Is this a good idea, but not andit was like, the calm comes? I'm
like, Okay, it's time to time todo that thing. And that's where
I think we start to see thatnonlinear movement are the
things that don't necessarilymake sense. In the end, as you
said, and it's the Steve Jobquote, can't always connect the
(39:57):
dots looking forward, but youcan always connect them looking
back, it was the most logicaldecision because it helped me to
do the thing I actually wantedto do versus what everyone else
was telling me I should do.
Jamie Stephens (40:09):
Tell me about something that really surprised
you. Like, once you made theleap, and you've left the
hospital, you're doing your ownthing. I know you've had like a
four year or so runway to kindof get up to speed, was there
anything that came as a shock,or that you really had to like,
recalibrate once you left,
Jess Bubbico (40:30):
my nervous system had to recalibrate because you
don't make money. And I didn'tmake money in the same way that
I did. So you know, I might makeall of my money at the first
week of the month, and then notmake $1 the rest of the month,
at least that's how it wasworking at that time. So I the
adjusting to not making apaycheck for my nervous system.
And when I say my nervoussystem, I mean, like anxiety, I
(40:53):
would get anxiety. So thatinconsistency, I think was a
really big shock to me. And itbecame normal, you know, over
time, I'm like, oh, moneydoesn't actually just come every
Friday. That is not how moneyoperates. Money operates in
different ways. It's crazy. So Iwould say that was a big one.
(41:14):
Making my own schedule to somedegree, I think was I had to
learn how to create boundariesfor myself, because I would just
work 24/7. And so and sometimes,just because I was anxious. So
that was another one for me Ireally had to learn was like how
do I create boundaries around mywork? So I'm not stressed all
the time.
Jamie Stephens (41:35):
And so how were you using the tools that you
were learning at the time? Imean, because it's like a
constant development. So withthe tools that you had at the
time, how were you likerecognizing that anxiety and
knowing what to really do withit? If you remember a great
Jess Bubbico (41:54):
question, yeah, I'm actually like, I'm seeing a
specific situation in my head. Iwas doing a lot of acupuncture,
actually, at the time. And I hadsome really great people around
me. So like, I think I was in agroup coaching program at the
time. Plus, I was getting somesupport on the other end. And
sometimes to be honest, I don'talways recognize it. So I think
(42:16):
I would love to say like, oh, II'm great at right, I was great
at recognizing it in the moment.
But it's like, he can't reallynecessarily always see when
you're in the middle of a storm.
So I think being able to havepeople around me like my
roommate, or the acupuncturepeople, or these other people
who could give me reflectionsback was very supportive for me.
(42:38):
And then in terms of the tools,I mean, I've always been pretty
curious and inquisitive aroundmy own mindset and my own
healing and my own process andjourney. So I think I just
always continued to turn inward,and just go like, Okay, what
else is happening here? Okay,what else is happening? How can
I continue to support myself? Sobreathwork, coaching,
(42:58):
acupuncture, all these differentthings that I always just
followed my intuition. I'm like,What do I need? Okay, this is
what I need. This is what I'mgoing to do today.
Jamie Stephens (43:07):
So tell me how you are helping people now what
is what is your, your thingthese days?
Jess Bubbico (43:14):
Yeah. So I work with entrepreneurs who are in
the solopreneurs space, who havesome clients, they might not
have like a full on fullyexpanded business, but they're
working with some clients doingwork that they love. So I've got
like, as an example, somebodyright now who's a massage
therapist, or she'll have awoman who's an artist, a lot of
(43:38):
service based entrepreneurs,also who are in like, the
coaching space, things of thatnature. And I support them using
the gene keys in human design,to understand their own
energetic roadmap of how they'redesigned to create their
business. And I really help themto there's so many How To rules,
quote, unquote, I think in thecoaching industry, and in the
(43:59):
self help online industry, thatI think have good intention, but
I find get people very stuck intheir heads because they're
like, Oh, I'm supposed to havean opt in, or I'm supposed to
have a group program orwhatever. And I really love
helping people step outside ofthe box of the half twos, and
(44:19):
actually step into the want twosand the desires to and create
their businesses in ways thatare maybe outside of the box and
innovative, but very much trueto them. That's really I do one
on one. I also have some groupsgoing. And things are
continually evolving andshifting and changing and
(44:40):
growing. So I've got my podcastas well. But yeah, I really love
helping people do what's truefor them. Because I think we're
in a massive time of everybody'sdiscovering, like, oh,
differentiation, I'm different.
I do things differently. Butthen what we're doing is we're
going at least in the coachingspace Self Help space, it's
like, oh, I'm different, I canbe me. How do I fit this into
(45:03):
the box to make a lot of moneydoing this business? And it's
like, that's completely againstthe whole purpose of why you're
stepping out of corporate is notto fit yourself into another
box, but to create your ownself.
Jamie Stephens (45:18):
Which is a big, big ever learning lesson.
Absolutely. I mean, as a, as anew entrepreneur, you do
gravitate towards somebodytelling you what to do, like,
tell me this, tell me this,because you don't have that
trust built up within yourself,which is, you know, there's a
whole breaking down of what usedto work or how you worked, or
(45:43):
how you showed up in the world,and then kind of that rebuilding
and rebuilding of that trustthat, like, once you get to that
place, that it's like, not whateverybody else tells you what to
do, or the rules or the shoulds,and all of those things. I mean,
that is a challenge to listen toit, because it's like, Oh, you
want me to do what? Like? Yes,no, is that gonna make me any
(46:05):
money? So? Yeah, so that's, it'sa really valuable service
Jess Bubbico (46:11):
there. I think we're taught to look for
structures to fit into. And thetruth is, we need structures. I
mean, everything in nature has astructure, you know, you cut a
tree open, and you're like, Oh,there's the rings. This is what
it looks like. There's a rootsystem like, yeah, my belief is,
let's start with the creativityfirst, and then build the
structure around it. You know,but that puts you out on the
(46:32):
limb. Because if you fail, allyou have to do is to look at
yourself and go, Well, why didthat fails? There's something
wrong with me versus, you know,but that builds massive self
trust, massive self love. Andagain, it invites people in, I
think, into new possibilities.
So I love it. All right. Do
Jamie Stephens (46:49):
you want to tell people where they can find you,
and any exciting things that arecoming up in the next couple of
months that you have going on?
Jess Bubbico (46:57):
Absolutely. So you can find me on Instagram at love
your Woo, who? Over my websiteis also at love your woot.com?
In terms of exciting thingscoming up? I'm not exactly sure.
There's some stuff that'sevolving. And I think there's
going to be a lot of newproducts and services coming
out. But I'm not exactly surewhat they are. I'm kind of in
(47:19):
the creative process as of now.
So I offer something called asolopreneur activation session
where we go through your humandesign and Gene keys to get a
really good foundation of whatyou're here to do in the world
who you're here to be. There'llbe more to come but it's kind of
creatively being birthed in themoment. Love it.
Jamie Stephens (47:36):
All right. Well, Jeff, thank you so much for your
time today. I really appreciateall your wisdom that you brought
with you. So thank you.
Jess Bubbico (47:43):
Thank you. Big thank
Jamie Stephens (47:45):
you to Jess for being present with me and
letting us hear her story andall her lessons. Some of the key
takeaways I want to highlightare number one, out of
alignment. Many people make thedecision to walk away from jobs
because of a misalignment ofvalues. Corporations may say
they care about people, but whenthey make decisions strictly
(48:06):
from a financial perspective, itfeels incongruent. Number two,
the shame game. When you walkaway from a traditional path to
explore the more quote unquotewoowoo side of your business,
you might come up with a lot ofshame or embarrassment. Meet
yourself with love andcompassion as you do the
internal work to unravel thatidentity and release the shame.
(48:28):
Number three, intuition can bedeveloped. In other cultures,
communing with those that havepassed is not uncommon.
Intuition and connection aregifts that can be developed.
There are teachers and guidesthat can assist you and you
don't have to run away from thewisdom being offered. Number
four, receive guidance from yourintuition. Connect to yourself,
(48:51):
journal out your knowings learnthe difference between fear and
intuition. And just a helpfultip intuition is never frantic
or worried. All as well. Always.
Number five, work with yourhuman design. Human Design is a
system that helps you understandhow you operate in the world.
Applying this in a businesssense you learn how your
(49:12):
intuition speaks and how to gainaccess to your own wisdom. Then
you can make decisions from aplace of autonomy and heart.
Number six, listen to your bodytalk. Whether it's a full body
yes or a full body No, listen towhat your body is telling you.
Overriding with your mind whatyour body really wants and needs
tends to lead to bad outcomes.
(49:37):
Number seven, build yourcreative structure. As a new
entrepreneur, you'll need todevelop a new structure that
supports the business you havequestion all of the half twos
and know that you can create anout of the box business that's
true to you. And if you needsomebody to help, just reach out
to just okay, that is it forthis week. Thanks so much to
(50:00):
just for being on the show todayI have all her links in the show
notes so you can learn to loveyour wound too. If you enjoyed
this episode via dog go drop mea five star rating. There's a
link in the show notes for thatas well. Thank you so much for
being here. I hope you have afantastic week.
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