April 28, 2024 • 49 mins
Join Lachlan Stuart & Jim Bostock as they dive deep into understanding the connections between mental and physical health through the concept of nerve locks. Learn how trauma affects the body and mind in ways you've never imagined.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the man that Can Project podcast.
Today's episode, as always, isanother great, insightful and
educational chat with JimBostock.
So Jim has been on the showbefore.
He is known as the needle guy,and this episode we dive deep.
He has blown up on social media, he's been in the news.
He's been literally bringingathletes careers back to life,
(00:24):
and what we talk about alignswith you, because you are an
athlete and we talk about whypeople should develop and
believe in the athlete's mindset.
It changes how you view healthand longevity.
A few key takeaways from thisepisode are treating the root
cause of pain it's moreeffective than addressing the
symptoms.
Listening to your body andmaking choices that prioritize
(00:46):
your over well-being is crucial,and Jim is also creating some
online resources to help peoplelike you with their nerve lock
release.
So here's the needle guy.
This episode is going to beawesome, remember, if you are
enjoying these episodes or youhave guest recommendations, hit
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(01:07):
Let's dive into the episodewith Jim Bostock.
The needle guy, jim Bostock,welcome back on the show, mate.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh brother, I'm so happy to be here with you again.
We always have the greatestchats.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We do, and it's always those moments where I'm
like I wish we were recordingthis so other people could learn
what I'm learning right now.
I always take away one greatpiece of advice and then I
probably pass it along down theline to other people that I get
to connect with.
How are you doing, man?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Really really well Healthy that's the most
important thing and justenergized, yeah, for the next
little run, really good so youwere saying, you got your first
tennis tournament again in twoweeks in two weeks.
Yeah, so getting the bodybashed up, slowly, ready for
that slogging and, yeah, preparethe body and then the recovery
(02:03):
strategies after.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Got to have those recovery strategies For a
43-year-old body, you know, gotto push it.
You don't look it.
Yeah, yeah, you don't look it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's all about the hormones, brother, we'll have a
chat about that in a moment.
Yeah, definitely we will.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
It's cool where we've got to connect, obviously, our
first episode.
We did live in Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Then we cool where we've got to connect.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Obviously our first episode we did live in brisbane.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Then we caught up in la recently, which was sick.
I had so many patients tell meI just saw you with lucky and
you're in a towel and you'renude up top and we're in the
rain and we're just talking.
What were you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No comment.
That was a good day, indeedEveryone.
Context, we'll give context,otherwise the minds will wander.
We were at a mutual friend,kevin who was on the show
recently.
He has an epic setup at hishouse sauna, ice bath.
(03:03):
Yeah, so much fun, man.
What do you like about saunasand ice baths?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The body needs to be stressed in extremes to adapt.
And it's wonderful for thehormones, again, as we said, to
push the body in certainextremes.
And yeah, I personally listento the body.
My body loves heat because ithates heat, if that makes sense.
(03:32):
I struggle in the heatgenerally, so I like to put
myself in heat so that my bodycan adapt.
And then the cold, of course,really good to flush all the
blood out again.
So for me it's always aboutblood flow.
I look at it from blood flow.
It's great for the muscles,great for the organs, great for
the nervous system.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh great, it's healing I love we're going deep
early.
We're going deep early.
So when you talk about youdon't like it but you love it
embracing the discomfort.
It's such an important thing,especially in the current times
(04:13):
people's ability to deal withadversity, to push themselves
further than they first thoughtpossible.
And cold therapy or heatexposure is a great way to do
that in a controlled environmentI'm like you jim.
I struggle in the sauna.
I I find myself like towel overmy head, just looking at the
(04:35):
ground praying I'm like fuckyeah, me, yeah, yeah, I hear you
but then I always walk awayfeeling incredible, and what
I've noticed over the times ofconsistency is my tolerance
builds up.
I start maybe at seven minutesand then I have to jump out, and
then you know, I have done30-minute stints and I'm like
(04:56):
crazy, and that's in a number ofweeks.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's a great effort .
Yeah, pain is important.
Discomfort is important In myline of work.
You don't progress anywherewithout pain.
You don't progress as a humanbeing without discomfort.
Even in suffering pain for along time, even though it sucks
to go through it, what your bodylearns in that period is the
(05:22):
greatest learning.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That probably is a reason why you're drawn to
working with athletes, right?
Because athletes, in order toget to the top of their sport
and remain at the top of theirsport, they have to put their
bodies through incredible things, and whether you're a weekend,
warrior or an elite athlete andyou're wanting results.
I'd consider myself a weekendwarrior athlete, but I love to
(05:48):
do things to maximize results.
I'm not doing it to.
I've got a marathon thisweekend, jim Whoa.
Yeah, nashville Marathon, rockand roll, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well done, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I haven't completed it yet, so we have to hold off
on that.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Oh man, you're going to do a PB.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
For sure, for sure.
But I go all in on things andthere's a lot of people out
there who do the same, and whatyou put your body through, what
you put your mind through canbreak barriers but also build
extreme amounts of confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And that's then where you come in and you heal us,
you help us.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So I'm going to play a quick clip, Jim, just to give
a brief overview, and then I'mgoing to hit you with a pretty
cool question.
So let's hope this comesthrough.
Let's go again.
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Seven News can reveal the secret weapon that has
former Lion King Dane.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Zorko now eyeing off the magical 300 game milestone.
The 35-year-old's bolddeclaration comes ahead of
Thursday's Gabba grand finalrematch with Collingwood.
Meet Jim Bostock, the needleguy.
There it is A Brisbane sportsphysio who's transforming
careers and lives.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I was meeting people who are not getting better, but
medically healthy, so I went onmy own path, 18 years later he's
perfected the nerve lock needletreatment.
What's been with them for fiveyears, 18 years, 50 years,
disappears immediately.
It's like a little poppingsensation, and it's not but when
it hits the right spot.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know Dane Zorko's the fifth.
Yeah, Won't give away all thejuiciness, Jim.
We spoke about this a littlebit on our last episode.
You've continued to grow.
You continue to treat peoplefrom all walks of life, but
you're really honing in on theathletes.
Before we dive into that andwhat inspired you to start
(07:44):
working with athletesspecifically.
Can you share a quick littlerecap around your journey and
how you came to be known as theneedle guy?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Very simple.
People just kept calling me theneedle guy, this is my needle
guy, I go to that needle guy andthis is my needle guy.
So it was easy.
And when I went to the Statesfor the first time to you know,
talk about this more and treatpeople, he loved it.
(08:14):
It was such a hit and so itstuck and we thought right now
I'm working with athletes moreso and athletic mindset people.
So, like yourself, you're anathlete because you give a crap
about your body, you appreciatethe vessel that you're in in
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this planet, on this planet, andyou want to bring the best out
of it in every way possible.
That's an athlete.
So I love that.
And the needle guy made sense.
It just fit, it worked.
People connected with it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Here it is dude, I love that you linked that to
that, because you've justbrought in such a broad audience
now with referring to peoplewho actually give a crap about
yeah, body you know, the body isthe one thing that the better
we take care of it, the longerit's going to support us
throughout our years here.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It depends on your goals.
Yeah, it depends on what youraspirations are.
For sure, it's the one thingwe've got.
We sit in.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Take care of it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Moving into the athlete or the athlete mindset
space, then what has made you soeffective?
Because you are so highlysought after?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
yeah, I had a.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I had a person, literally.
So I had a client actuallymessaged me the other day and he
was on a date and he's okay, Iwas talking to.
I was talking to my date aboutyou, and she's like oh that
guy's on Jim's page.
What's he think about JimBostock and I?
Was like Jim's the man, buteveryone's talking about you and
your methods.
(09:52):
Obviously.
I just shared a clip then fromyour recent time on the news,
working with Dane Zorka from theBrisbane Lions.
But you work with athletes allaround and people.
You've helped me so much.
So what really separates you,and can you give us a bit more
of a rundown on how you helppeople through the recovery
phase but also continue to excel?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
The journey I took started with a pain really deep
within me, and that pain was andstill is, but less intense
today, that I always believedthe human body can heal faster
and is able to get out of painif it's stuck in pain.
(10:37):
But our medical systeminfrastructure that I trained in
, we didn't have the physicaltools for pain and we were
approaching pain in completelythe wrong way.
That was my pain.
(10:58):
My pain Because I kept treatingpeople and they weren't getting
better and I had to resort tothe business model, which I
couldn't do very well.
I sucked because I couldn't lieto people.
That was my greatest failure.
So I lost a lot of jobs becauseof it.
So that pain led me to keeppushing and figuring out that
(11:23):
there is a way.
And I found it.
And when I found it, I had toprove to myself and my people
that I was treating again, thatthis is something very special.
And I kept looking and I keptlooking and I kept looking,
listening, listening, listeningand now it's official.
So the greatest difference isthat when a nerve lock gets
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reset, as I call it, the bodyprogresses.
It doesn't recoil back to beingstuck again.
So the people that I meet arelike yourself when you had that
interesting hip problem.
Why, when I do everything tothe greatest ability, is this
(12:08):
thing not just going away?
Because the nervous system isstuck and we're naturally
designed as human beings.
When something is traumatized,both physically and emotionally,
the nervous system has anamazing way of locking it down.
I found a way to unlock it andit's a simple needle that goes
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directly to that nerve area andresets it.
So the difference is really inthe progression and the result
that comes from a release, andthat's where I found my greatest
joy, because what the humanperson, even mammals I've tested
(12:52):
this on some mammals what theyfeel after emotionally and
physically, is my greatest joy,yeah is my greatest joy.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I love how this has come off the back of your own
integrity and wanting to find atrue solution.
Yeah, I think what a lot ofpeople don't dive into is the
business behind healthcare andeverything.
Really, if you look at anythingthat's happening, there must be
a sustainable business.
I was chatting with a fellowyesterday and he was saying oh
(13:32):
man there's just no markups incars.
You know I asked for a discounton a car.
Can I knock any more off?
Now the salesman said to me noman, if, like, there's just no
margin, that's what we'regetting it at.
And I'm sitting there saying tomyself I can't be possible,
because no business is going torun with no margin like
especially a big carmanufacturing company.
There needs to be profit formarketing and to feed families
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and to look good on the.
The balance sheet at the endyeah and every business needs to
, and I'm not saying there'sthere's anything wrong with that
, but when you look at abusiness model that may have you
coming back and continuing tocome back and, as you said, it's
not treating the cause of it,it's a, the sorry, the.
Yeah, the cause of it, it'smore the, the symptom, you will
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be returning time and time again.
It's no different to mentaltrauma.
Once again, I feel that a lotof people aren't looking at the
true cause to a lot of thereasons why we're highly
medicated in today's world andmaking changes, because the easy
solution is to go.
(14:37):
I'll go get my massage everyweek or I'll have these tablets
and I'll stop having to thinkabout or dealing with the pain
and hopefully, you know, if thatpain comes back, I'll just
increase my dosage or I'llincrease my frequency of the
treatment rather than going.
What do I need to do?
Because, back to your point,jim, the body heals itself.
(14:59):
It's proven that.
But what are the things that wecan use to assist that and your
curiosity to go?
I can't lie to people.
I don't want people coming back21 times a year.
For me to just slap anotherBand-Aid on has helped unlock
this huge breakthrough thatpeople are seeing you one to
three times and they're done.
That's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, it goes back to the business side of this
conversation again.
A popular question I get is howdo you do good business then,
if you fix people too quick?
How do you do good business?
You need the volume of people,and my simple answer is it's
(15:43):
amazing what happens when thehuman body actually gets better,
when you feel better, that yourbody is saying it's good, let's
go.
And you've been carrying thatshit for 10 years.
I can guarantee you that personis going to tell everybody and
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that's how my business has grown.
My greatest pain is making surethat I keep producing the
results.
So that's my ego.
I have to produce the resultsbecause that warrants why I'm
here, justifies my journey, sothat's my pain.
(16:26):
That drives me every day is Ican't sit on something that is
not getting better, and if it'snot getting better, there is a
reason for that and we have tofind that reason.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I love it what's been a recent or a client of yours,
and obviously I understandclient confidentiality, but if
there's one you could talk aboutwithout their name, of of a
result that you've had that hasbeen completely life-changing
for them, something that maybeeven you, for a while, were like
.
I don't know whether I can dothis yeah, there's two scenarios
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I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
We we have been approaching pain completely
wrong in my opinion.
So the the medical literature,google chat, gpt crawl.
We're approaching painespecially in the wrong way.
Don't get me wrong.
An anesthetic is great for pain, you know.
Anti inflammatory, great forpain surgery.
If something is broken, it'sgreat for pain Surgery.
If something is broken, it'sgreat for pain.
(17:26):
But we're talking pain that'sbeen lasting a very long time.
And athletes you're an athleteIf something is holding you back
, no matter how strong you areup here.
If something is holding youback, your confidence drops
guaranteed In yourself, in thepeople around you.
If you are prone to mentalhealth issues, wow, not great.
(17:50):
If you're prone to bad habits,not great.
So a classic story for one I'llgive you.
The first one is the physical,just the physical pain when a
nerve lock sits in the calfmuscle, in the calf muscle.
I'll keep it simple.
You can develop this pain inyour heel and in your Achilles.
(18:11):
That drives runners crazy, anelite runner, athlete,
professional footballer.
When that Achilles gives youpain and stops you running
halfway through the game, you'redoubting everything, your
confidence drops, your abilitydrops, your teammates lose
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confidence in you.
You feel worse about yourselfIf that's been around for four
years.
Can you imagine, so what thenerve lock release does?
Can you imagine?
So what the nerve lock releasedoes?
It resets the pain system inthe Achilles completely.
It increases blood flow,increases lymphatics, achilles
tendinopathy lumps start todisappear.
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It's incredible and it happenswithin weeks.
And this is the Dane Zorko storythat you just saw as a classic
example.
And he was happy to share thatbecause everybody in the public
here in Australia anyway, no, orknew that he had a big problem.
He wasn't the Dane Zorko thatpeople were accustomed to.
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So that's a simple case for thephysical side.
Then there's the other side,the emotional side.
Then there's the other side,the emotional side.
Someone carrying a hip pain for20 something years, for example
and it doesn't make senseMedically checked, two surgeons
have had a look, have hadsurgery to the lumbar spine,
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thinking that that was theproblem, and yet the pain is
still there, no-transcript, andit's stored in the
parasympathetic nervous system,in the sacrum that drove nerve
locks in the glutes and holding.
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So she needed not just thephysical nerve lock release with
my needles, but an emotionalrelease, and I had to guide her
down that path, breath workbeing one of it, a factor in
that healing journey.
So yeah, so that's two sides.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Two examples.
And so, from that side, lookingat the mental because I always
get really fascinated with themental sides of things, because
I believe everyone's carryingsome baggage and often we aren't
aware of it.
So when you're doing thingslike that, obviously the pain
can present itself.
I did a breathwork again.
I did one with your brother,yeah, and yourself.
(20:46):
When was that?
Gee, that'd be 18 months ago.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I did another one recently as well at our last
workshop here and I had thisinsane pain on my knee.
I was like man.
Maybe I tore my MCL or ACL inthe water.
It was just like pressure,nothing else.
And as we were going throughthis breath work, the pain
started moving up my leg, intomy torso, into my throat, and it
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was just sitting in my throatand then I just erupted like
crying and and the whole time aswell, I wasn't like dealing
with anything in my head and Ihadn't been, and then I just had
, as it like came out.
My mind just focused on exactlywhat it was and I had this
emotional release and I'll sharewith the people uh, audience,
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just audiences because I thinkit's important.
But my biggest fear is when Ihave people at workshops or when
I have people at the events I'mreally focused on and worried
about people not having abreakthrough not being able to
help them find something toimprove upon, and there were two
blokes who came and wentthroughout the day and I was
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taking that personally.
I was like man, they're notgoing to get a result when
you're not here, focused, and Ifeel like I'm here to help men
in that way.
I don't want men taking theirlife by their own hands and I
believe finding purpose, beingaround the right people,
learning to do more challengingthings is a great way to improve
your ability and your mentalhealth in life, and so when I
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don't feel like people aregetting that experience.
I feel like I'm letting peopledown.
I'm letting myself down andthat yeah like even saying it
out loud, I'm like why would Ieven erupt on that?
But that was, that was as realas possible for me in that
moment, and it came throughphysical pain initially and then
went emotional.
I got to talk about it, I gotto think about it and it had
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never once crossed my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, really, your body has a remarkable way of
holding on to stuff and thentelling you about it later.
Remarkable way, I mean.
I am and was trained in themedical system, but what I've
observed in the human body overthe years now yeah, what do your
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colleagues say so or your peers, with your technique and your
approach to things?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
do they agree with it ?
Disagree, challenge you what's,what's that space look like?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
it's a hard question to answer because I get so many
mixed comments.
Um, definitely, my peers don'tget it, generally don't get it,
uh, and they just poo-poo it.
Uh, it's just another needling,another needling technique.
So, yay, good for you.
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That's what I generally hear.
Others are just curious, reallycurious what is this?
And that's great too.
Everyone has their own journey,so it's a mixed one.
I'm not too concerned aboutwhat my peers think.
As I said, my pain and my egois making sure people get better
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and, like yourself, you don'twant to let people down, and
that is your fear and my fearand that is what I live and
drive my work side by and careerside by is just making sure I
do good healing work, and if Ikeep doing it, I'm in love.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, and what happens when you come up against
someone, or have you come upagainst someone, that you
haven't been able to treat?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Haven't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutelyyeah.
It gives me an awful feelingthat I can't help someone Always
does, never change, becausethat's how I started this.
I always was told you're a niceguy but you suck, so it's a
sting and you get that rush of a.
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It's a.
You know it's a sting and youknow you get that rush of oh
when you can't help anyone.
But how I created this treatmentmethod is when a nerve lock
releases, the true nature ofyour problem reveals itself.
Always does the body never lies.
I believe that way back then,19 years ago, and today it's
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more certain than ever.
So therefore I'm also veryconfident now in telling you
that your pain is because ofyour emotional past locking.
I can't fix this pain justpurely through nerve locks.
When the nerve locks release,it's game on we will know.
That's why a lot of thesurgeons in Australia and in
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Brisbane particularly love whenI send a patient to them for
surgery, because it always works, Because when nerve locks
disappear, the body is ready tohave surgery.
It's actually broken the spine,for example, a very precarious
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area in many people's minds, andin surgery it's a woo.
Let's have a go.
You know the success rate'spretty good.
It's not definitive, but whennerve locks disappear it's
pretty good.
It's not definitive, but whennerve locks disappear, it's a
definite.
If your pain doesn't go away.
I failed, yes, but I know withconfidence, lucky.
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You need the surgery or youneed that procedure.
This medical pathway isdefinitely you and I bet my
house on it.
So in that way I've also givenmyself a saving grace, because I
had to look for reasons.
As I said, why isn't John Doegetting better?
Something is not right.
It's not fitting the picturewith the last hundred persons
that I've treated for the sameproblem.
Yeah, so I and I fell upon thisonly through observation.
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I just kept observing.
I used to treat like 60, 70people a week in my 20s.
I used to work my weekends justresetting people.
Resetting people, friends,families, anybody, even patients
during the week who paid.
I got them back on the weekendand treated them for free, just
to figure it out, and I keptseeing the results and I kept
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putting the data down and I onlydiscovered this through
observation.
The literature has nothing onthis.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
How do you approach?
Do or do you approach athletesdifferently to you?
Non-athletes, yeah tonon-athletes.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It all comes down to their personal story.
Um, it all comes down to theirpersonal uh story, because
everyone's body is their ownunique product of their past
emotionally, physically,spiritually, energetically,
every way.
So that's why pain isapproached incorrectly, as I
said before, because we can'tput 20 people with knee pain in
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the same sample size.
They all have differentemotional histories, they all
have different genetic codings.
That's how I approached itbecause and it's the truth like
your knee pain, for example,yeah, knee is one of the areas
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that an emotional history cancause pain in, right?
So, yes, it all depends on theperson.
Generally, athletes are highlyconnected to their nervous
system.
That's why they're so gifted inwhat they do, even musicians,
they're very connected.
So I call them, or call youguys, super duper nervous
systems.
You're very switched on andevery little tweak I do to the
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nervous system, they feel it andthe results are much more
powerful, like a hundredfold,compared to somebody who is
non-athletic.
But again, it depends on yourgoals.
Generally, the non-athleticpopulation, they want to be
pain-free, they just want to bepain-free.
The athletes, they have otheraspirations.
They want to run faster, theywant to be able to play more
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years without pain.
They don't want that thing downthere causing me problems in
games and losing my confidencein and so on.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's important.
Once you start recognizing whatthe goal is and going back to
how you developed nerve locks inthe first place is like when
you have an idea of what problemyou're trying to solve.
And that could be a lifeproblem, meaning I want to have
a life where I live mainlypain-freefree.
Who do I need to become?
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How do I need to set mylifestyle up in order to work
towards that?
if you live a more activelifestyle.
You may need massages, you mayneed therapy, you may need gym
to help you, help assist thatlike Like I live I would say,
aggressive lifestyle in regardsto my physical goals that I set
(30:04):
for myself.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You definitely test your body.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, but I definitely make sure that I
invest in the recovery processas well and definitely do listen
to my body and I have thought alot about okay in my 30s, what
would I love to do now thatmaybe I won't a lot about.
Okay in my 30s, what would Ilove to do now that maybe I
won't be able to do in my 50s or40s, so that I can really
invest in prioritizing thosethings?
(30:28):
Because I'm also trying tocollect life experiences.
I think about if I was to readmy, I guess, life resume when
I'm 90, what do I want to see on?
that, and there's going to besome things that I can only do
in my 30s, that I can't do in my80s when I have more time or
money.
So I think it's very importantto think about that and tying
that back into the work that youdo, whether it's physically or
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mentally.
There are things that we shouldbe doing.
There are people we should besurrounding ourselves with.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
There are skills that we should be developing.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
There are people we should be surrounding ourselves
with, there are skills that weshould be developing,
experiences that we should besharing in order to work towards
that, because, as you said, thepeople that you see, jim, the
nerve locks that they have orthe injuries that they are
experiencing are a result oftheir past yeah, past, yeah it's
driving our future, and if wedon't like, where?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
we are presently we need to change the actions
moving forward yeah, yeah, areally good one in for you as
well, uh, because you are very,very in the athletic category.
Uh is in your 40s.
Treat your 40s like it's apreparation.
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It's a base to build on foryour 50s and 60s.
Your 40s is the time.
So in my 40s now I am preparingmy body in every way to get
through 50s and 60s moresmoothly.
This is the transition period Ifeel from what I've observed.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What have been some of the major changes that you've
made from your 30s to your 40s?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Intensity I've dropped down intensities in
certain areas like, uh, I usedto love, uh, jujitsu and and mma
and stuff like that.
I've dropped that becausefamilies, and you know, can't
keep getting my neck cranked andgetting choked out and I'm a
(32:34):
family man now and so that wasmy personal, you know goal and
because my workload, myaspirations in my career and in
my relationships, you know, Idon't want to be in broken pain
but then stressing other areasof my body in my 40s to help
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deal with the, tolerate thetraumas that will come in my 50s
and 60s, accepting the,accepting the fact that my
tissues will become more fragileyep, and oxygen will degrade us
more yep, uh, you know, willthings will get saggier?
Yep, uh, you know, uh.
(33:17):
So my 40s work on my hormones,work on my muscles, work on my
circulation, work on good sleeprecovery, work on good
relationship, sex life, love,the intimacy side of the human
body as well as the physicalside, and not pushing extremes
in every aspect, but in areasthat bring me more joy.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It sounds like your definition of what would be, you
know, work-life harmony orbalance, where you're yeah very
clear on what is important toyou and what you need to be
working on now in order to buildthat life for you, rather than
waking up in your 60s going.
Oh shit, my intimate side of mylife sucks.
(33:59):
My body doesn't move well, I'vegot chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I don't have any friends around.
Let's say I don't know likefunctional CrossFit, functional
lifting, the new High Rocks,high Rocks.
High Rocks yeah, high Rockslooks amazing.
When people really, in their40s, push, push and a lot of
boundaries and pbs and reallypunish their bodies, I always
see the repercussions in their50s, yeah.
(34:24):
But if they're doing it with abeautiful goal, with love, and
they're also healthy on theother side of the body, which is
the intimacy, the emotional,energy side of their body, if
they're in harmony with that,their bodies are much healthier
in their 50s and 60s.
But those who just push, push,push and keep pushing the limits
because they have a painthey're running away from, for
(34:46):
example, um, oh my gosh, their50s and 60s are not not healthy.
So it's a balance right, youhave to.
You have to look at yourselffrom every angle, not just.
I am capable of lifting 250 kg,so I'm just going to go and
punish this and keep trying toget better and better and better
(35:07):
.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, a good place for people to start there is
even just getting out a notepadand writing down areas of your
life that are important to you,and if you're new to this, I
would just start from the macro,so I would go health, wealth,
relationship and happiness.
Yeah, okay, just like we dowith our nutrition in the
(35:29):
beginning, go carbs, proteins,fats keep it super simple before
you get into you know all thethe nuts and bolts of it and
just start there and start going.
Okay, well, in my next chapterof my life, what do I feel like
I want this area to look like?
And start writing things downand, as a result of that, you're
going to start creating a bitof a roadmap that you can dive
(35:51):
into.
You can dive into the healthspace.
What do I need to learn?
As you've said, jim, you'vespoken about hormones, sex, life
, space.
What do I need to learn?
As you've said, jim, you'vespoken about hormones, sex, like
all these, all these like sub,sub categories of that that we
need to sink into and learnabout, and same with the, the
physical, uh, and and everythinglike that.
So I think it's important, butthere's a little bit of a
(36:11):
starting point for people.
I know you've got a jet for aclient in a second, but what's
what's new and exciting for you?
What are you working on?
Working on that you're pumpedabout at the moment.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Our biggest one right now is I'm going to do
something special online forpeople, because the demand now
globally for nerve lock releaseis difficult, because I'm the
only one doing this and it is awhat's the word?
(36:44):
A disadvantage for many people.
So, understanding that I'mcreating something online for
people to help their nerve locksand, in some cases, get rid of
it without needing my physicaltreatment.
I do travel now.
That's the cool thing.
(37:04):
I travel and treat people inall various wonderful places.
But, yes, on the business side,the slight downfall is it's
just me and I have not startedthe process of training people
as yet.
It is in the timeline, but myenergy is currently saying that
(37:24):
I need to just treat and reallyshow the world what nerve locks
are about.
It's only been a year and a bitnow since I really released it.
I kept it hidden while I wasfinishing off all my data, so it
only really finished in 2022,23.
So it's been a short time.
So now my energy is towards justtelling the world through
(37:47):
awesome podcasts like this andsocial media and so on, just to
gently educate this new way ofthinking.
And that's what the athleteshave really enjoyed all the
professional athletes.
I'm giving them a wholedifferent perspective on their
bodies again, like, imagine DaneZorko going another three years
(38:11):
, lebron James going anotherthree years without having
issues because their bodies arefeeling so good.
It's a whole different concept.
And imagine like if you do amuscle strain, you're coming
back from pain and dysfunctionto full function within half the
time.
It's things like this that Iwant to gently educate now, and
(38:33):
we're creating something coolonline Just to approach your
body differently.
You won't read about this ongoogle or chat, because they get
their data from the medicalliterature.
Uh, this is something that I'veobserved over the last 20 years
now, and the human body isremarkable, like remarkable um,
(38:54):
so I can't wait to share that ona new platform.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I'm excited for you, man, for everyone listening.
You can follow Jim.
I'll just get the Instagrampage up again.
You provide so much from theresource front there.
Obviously you've got the NeedleGuy page, but if you go to Jim
underscore Bostock, there is somuch content on there from
(39:18):
helping people with all kinds ofthings.
I'm just scrolling through now,so just go start watching it.
I guarantee there will be avideo there where you're like oh
, that's what I'm experiencing.
That's right.
Yeah, I think that's a coolthing.
So I'm excited to see whatyou've got coming next, because
I definitely want to be someonewho's using it as my body
continues to age.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah.
Next, because I definitely,yeah, someone who's using it as
my body continues to age.
Yeah, it's to help youunderstand your body so that
intimately, so that, yeah, whenyou make strategy, when you
create, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,very important.
When you create strategies foryour future or the next step,
you're doing it smart, because alot of the time, people stay in
pain because they just don'tknow, they're told so many
(40:02):
things and it's conflicting alot of the time, conflicting to
what you instinctivelyunderstand, you know, because
your gut or your body is saying,hey, that I would like to just
put you on a good path, narrowit down and you'll see it just
makes sense, because this is howI feel this feels right Listen
(40:25):
to your body.
Basically, listening to yourbody, it's so important, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Well, I'll let you jet to your client.
But just to summarize, I'vetaken away a few key points.
Obviously one trusting your gut.
That's what led you down thispath in the first place.
And to see you on the side oftrusting.
Your gut has now put you insuch an incredible position
where you're changing people'slives and you're loving the life
that you've created foryourself as well.
I'm fascinated by people whohave put themselves in a
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position to do what they love,to get paid to do what they love
and also have this greatwork-life harmony where they get
to spend time with their familyand still pursue their passions
, because there was generationswhere that wasn't possible.
And we live in such a great timewhere many people are leading
the way and doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
So that was some huge takeaways for me.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Where else can people find you, aside from the
Instagram page?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Obviously, our website bossockinstitutecom,
instagram and tiktok are the twobiggest ones.
Uh, jim underscore bostock.
Uh, yeah, but we got a new teamnow we're going to create some
cool things on socials and uh,creating new online stuff, and
yeah, but best place to look isInstagram, facebook and TikTok.
(41:41):
Yeah, and it's just Jim Bostock.
Look up Jim Bostock on that andyou'll find me.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, I'll have all the links in the show notes so
everyone can find it.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
One thing I love about the work-life balance you
mentioned before with everything, and it actually connects to
what we mentioned earlier aboutour pain, our ego, our fear of
not being good enough.
A really good question I gotfrom another chat I did last
week was how do you look atwork-life balance from all the
(42:15):
observations you've made frompeople?
You know thousands andthousands and thousands of
people that I've treated, fromall various sectors of life,
right and the world, how do youlook at work-life balance?
And I had to think about thatone because I've looked at and
observed so many cool peoplephysically, emotionally, and
I've treated them right.
(42:35):
And when you treat a body withnerve locks, the answers reveal
themselves, always does so.
I've had a beautiful canvas ofknowledge from people and I came
to one simple conclusion is ifyou can find a way to enjoy and
(42:59):
really feel joy is, I think, thebetter word with the time when
you're conscious.
If you can find a way every dayand it's always work to find
joy in the time that you spenddoing things, that is work-life
(43:25):
balance.
And if we go a bit further,it's being comfortable, happy,
being secure, being aware, evento start with, of the fear
inside you, not being scared ofthat person inside you, because
that is generally commonly thereason why we have our ego.
(43:49):
Look at the world right in theway you do.
If you're comfortable and awareand happy with that and not
fearing that, you will find joyin the time that you live every
day, in whatever you're doing,and you will find the gift that
(44:11):
you have to give whether it's inrelationship, your children,
friends, entrepreneurship,business, whatever Because it
will help you find the balance,the homeostasis, because you're
not afraid anymore.
You're not afraid of I'm notgood enough, which constantly
pushes you to just keep goingfor more and can't say no.
(44:32):
For example, I can't say no, Ineed to do that when someone
else misses out.
And there goes your sex liferight, there goes that important
hormone, so your body's alwaysdoing yo-yos.
If you can find a way to stayat a beautiful homeostasis, your
hormones are thriving, yourbody's thriving.
(44:52):
That's called longevity, in myopinion, and the best way to do
that is finding joy in the timethat you are conscious it's a
simple way to think I hope thatcame across, because I'm like,
yeah, I'm like that's comingacross right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I think it's, it's, it's goes through seasons of
life.
What brings you joy today maynot be the thing that brings you
joy tomorrow, but if you stillfocus on the joy, you're doing
what needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
How many people say I make so much money and yet I'm
miserable?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Lots.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You know, it's because we are not finding joy
in the time that we're conscious, and that can change day to day
, that can change fromrelationship to relationship,
that can change fromrelationship to relationship,
that can change from business tobusiness.
Ah yeah, if you're bored andyou're not doing your gift
enough, you will know, becauseyou are happy with that person
inside you.
You understand that person welland you're aware of him or her.
(45:52):
Oh, I need to lift a bit, okay,or oh no, I'm going way too
crazy here.
My body is suffering becauseI'm listening to it.
My body is saying hey, man,you're not sleeping well, your
bowels are not moving well, yournutrition when you're trying to
put nutrition in you, yourbody's not responding.
Your sex life sucks your kidsand you know, blah, blah, blah.
(46:13):
But I'm killing it in mycompany.
You know you can dial it.
I have to make some choicesbecause I'm not finding my body
saying I'm not really feelingjoy, even though euphoria is
there in my time.
I'm now missing my kids, I'mnow missing my intimacy with my
(46:34):
partner or whatever, right, sothen you have to dial it back
down again and then, oh, now I'mbored again, let's go up again.
We're always doing a bit of,but not this, if that makes
sense, not erratically yeah,yeah, it's the joy in time.
Time is your most precious.
Yeah, that's what everybodymade.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
It's been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Thank, thank you so much.
Oh, 45 minutes.
Look at that, nailed it.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
We nailed it to a T.
We nailed it.
It's almost like we planned it,we nailed it.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Oh, you never know.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Oh lucky, such a pleasure bro.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Likewise, mate, it's been an absolute pleasure, as
always, and I look forward tocatching up when you're either
back over here or yep, planningon coming back.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Watch out folks.
Whichever happens first, yep,yeah, can't wait to come back.
It was a lot of fun.
Welcome back to the man that Can Project podcast.
Today's episode, as always, isanother great, insightful and
educational chat with JimBostock.
So Jim has been on the showbefore.
He is known as the needle guy,and this episode we dive deep.
He has blown up on social media, he's been in the news.
He's been literally bringingathletes careers back to life,
(00:24):
and what we talk about alignswith you, because you are an
athlete and we talk about whypeople should develop and
believe in the athlete's mindset.
It changes how you view healthand longevity.
A few key takeaways from thisepisode are treating the root
cause of pain it's moreeffective than addressing the
symptoms.
Listening to your body andmaking choices that prioritize
(00:46):
your over well-being is crucial,and Jim is also creating some
online resources to help peoplelike you with their nerve lock
release.
So here's the needle guy.
This episode is going to beawesome, remember, if you are
enjoying these episodes or youhave guest recommendations, hit
me up on Instagram or you cansend me an email.
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Let's dive into the episodewith Jim Bostock.
The needle guy, jim Bostock,welcome back on the show, mate.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh brother, I'm so happy to be here with you again.
We always have the greatestchats.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We do, and it's always those moments where I'm
like I wish we were recordingthis so other people could learn
what I'm learning right now.
I always take away one greatpiece of advice and then I
probably pass it along down theline to other people that I get
to connect with.
How are you doing, man?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Really really well Healthy that's the most
important thing and justenergized, yeah, for the next
little run, really good so youwere saying, you got your first
tennis tournament again in twoweeks in two weeks.
Yeah, so getting the bodybashed up, slowly, ready for
that slogging and, yeah, preparethe body and then the recovery
(02:03):
strategies after.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Got to have those recovery strategies For a
43-year-old body, you know, gotto push it.
You don't look it.
Yeah, yeah, you don't look it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's all about the hormones, brother, we'll have a
chat about that in a moment.
Yeah, definitely we will.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
It's cool where we've got to connect, obviously, our
first episode.
We did live in Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Then we cool where we've got to connect.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Obviously our first episode we did live in brisbane.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Then we caught up in la recently, which was sick.
I had so many patients tell meI just saw you with lucky and
you're in a towel and you'renude up top and we're in the
rain and we're just talking.
What were you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No comment.
That was a good day, indeedEveryone.
Context, we'll give context,otherwise the minds will wander.
We were at a mutual friend,kevin who was on the show
recently.
He has an epic setup at hishouse sauna, ice bath.
(03:03):
Yeah, so much fun, man.
What do you like about saunasand ice baths?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The body needs to be stressed in extremes to adapt.
And it's wonderful for thehormones, again, as we said, to
push the body in certainextremes.
And yeah, I personally listento the body.
My body loves heat because ithates heat, if that makes sense.
(03:32):
I struggle in the heatgenerally, so I like to put
myself in heat so that my bodycan adapt.
And then the cold, of course,really good to flush all the
blood out again.
So for me it's always aboutblood flow.
I look at it from blood flow.
It's great for the muscles,great for the organs, great for
the nervous system.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh great, it's healing I love we're going deep
early.
We're going deep early.
So when you talk about youdon't like it but you love it
embracing the discomfort.
It's such an important thing,especially in the current times
(04:13):
people's ability to deal withadversity, to push themselves
further than they first thoughtpossible.
And cold therapy or heatexposure is a great way to do
that in a controlled environmentI'm like you jim.
I struggle in the sauna.
I I find myself like towel overmy head, just looking at the
(04:35):
ground praying I'm like fuckyeah, me, yeah, yeah, I hear you
but then I always walk awayfeeling incredible, and what
I've noticed over the times ofconsistency is my tolerance
builds up.
I start maybe at seven minutesand then I have to jump out, and
then you know, I have done30-minute stints and I'm like
(04:56):
crazy, and that's in a number ofweeks.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's a great effort .
Yeah, pain is important.
Discomfort is important In myline of work.
You don't progress anywherewithout pain.
You don't progress as a humanbeing without discomfort.
Even in suffering pain for along time, even though it sucks
to go through it, what your bodylearns in that period is the
(05:22):
greatest learning.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That probably is a reason why you're drawn to
working with athletes, right?
Because athletes, in order toget to the top of their sport
and remain at the top of theirsport, they have to put their
bodies through incredible things, and whether you're a weekend,
warrior or an elite athlete andyou're wanting results.
I'd consider myself a weekendwarrior athlete, but I love to
(05:48):
do things to maximize results.
I'm not doing it to.
I've got a marathon thisweekend, jim Whoa.
Yeah, nashville Marathon, rockand roll, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well done, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I haven't completed it yet, so we have to hold off
on that.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Oh man, you're going to do a PB.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
For sure, for sure.
But I go all in on things andthere's a lot of people out
there who do the same, and whatyou put your body through, what
you put your mind through canbreak barriers but also build
extreme amounts of confidence.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And that's then where you come in and you heal us,
you help us.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So I'm going to play a quick clip, Jim, just to give
a brief overview, and then I'mgoing to hit you with a pretty
cool question.
So let's hope this comesthrough.
Let's go again.
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Seven News can reveal the secret weapon that has
former Lion King Dane.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Zorko now eyeing off the magical 300 game milestone.
The 35-year-old's bolddeclaration comes ahead of
Thursday's Gabba grand finalrematch with Collingwood.
Meet Jim Bostock, the needleguy.
There it is A Brisbane sportsphysio who's transforming
careers and lives.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I was meeting people who are not getting better, but
medically healthy, so I went onmy own path, 18 years later he's
perfected the nerve lock needletreatment.
What's been with them for fiveyears, 18 years, 50 years,
disappears immediately.
It's like a little poppingsensation, and it's not but when
it hits the right spot.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know Dane Zorko's the fifth.
Yeah, Won't give away all thejuiciness, Jim.
We spoke about this a littlebit on our last episode.
You've continued to grow.
You continue to treat peoplefrom all walks of life, but
you're really honing in on theathletes.
Before we dive into that andwhat inspired you to start
(07:44):
working with athletesspecifically.
Can you share a quick littlerecap around your journey and
how you came to be known as theneedle guy?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Very simple.
People just kept calling me theneedle guy, this is my needle
guy, I go to that needle guy andthis is my needle guy.
So it was easy.
And when I went to the Statesfor the first time to you know,
talk about this more and treatpeople, he loved it.
(08:14):
It was such a hit and so itstuck and we thought right now
I'm working with athletes moreso and athletic mindset people.
So, like yourself, you're anathlete because you give a crap
about your body, you appreciatethe vessel that you're in in
(08:34):
this planet, on this planet, andyou want to bring the best out
of it in every way possible.
That's an athlete.
So I love that.
And the needle guy made sense.
It just fit, it worked.
People connected with it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Here it is dude, I love that you linked that to
that, because you've justbrought in such a broad audience
now with referring to peoplewho actually give a crap about
yeah, body you know, the body isthe one thing that the better
we take care of it, the longerit's going to support us
throughout our years here.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It depends on your goals.
Yeah, it depends on what youraspirations are.
For sure, it's the one thingwe've got.
We sit in.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Take care of it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Moving into the athlete or the athlete mindset
space, then what has made you soeffective?
Because you are so highlysought after?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
yeah, I had a.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I had a person, literally.
So I had a client actuallymessaged me the other day and he
was on a date and he's okay, Iwas talking to.
I was talking to my date aboutyou, and she's like oh that
guy's on Jim's page.
What's he think about JimBostock and I?
Was like Jim's the man, buteveryone's talking about you and
your methods.
(09:52):
Obviously.
I just shared a clip then fromyour recent time on the news,
working with Dane Zorka from theBrisbane Lions.
But you work with athletes allaround and people.
You've helped me so much.
So what really separates you,and can you give us a bit more
of a rundown on how you helppeople through the recovery
phase but also continue to excel?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
The journey I took started with a pain really deep
within me, and that pain was andstill is, but less intense
today, that I always believedthe human body can heal faster
and is able to get out of painif it's stuck in pain.
(10:37):
But our medical systeminfrastructure that I trained in
, we didn't have the physicaltools for pain and we were
approaching pain in completelythe wrong way.
That was my pain.
(10:58):
My pain Because I kept treatingpeople and they weren't getting
better and I had to resort tothe business model, which I
couldn't do very well.
I sucked because I couldn't lieto people.
That was my greatest failure.
So I lost a lot of jobs becauseof it.
So that pain led me to keeppushing and figuring out that
(11:23):
there is a way.
And I found it.
And when I found it, I had toprove to myself and my people
that I was treating again, thatthis is something very special.
And I kept looking and I keptlooking and I kept looking,
listening, listening, listeningand now it's official.
So the greatest difference isthat when a nerve lock gets
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reset, as I call it, the bodyprogresses.
It doesn't recoil back to beingstuck again.
So the people that I meet arelike yourself when you had that
interesting hip problem.
Why, when I do everything tothe greatest ability, is this
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thing not just going away?
Because the nervous system isstuck and we're naturally
designed as human beings.
When something is traumatized,both physically and emotionally,
the nervous system has anamazing way of locking it down.
I found a way to unlock it andit's a simple needle that goes
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directly to that nerve area andresets it.
So the difference is really inthe progression and the result
that comes from a release, andthat's where I found my greatest
joy, because what the humanperson, even mammals I've tested
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this on some mammals what theyfeel after emotionally and
physically, is my greatest joy,yeah is my greatest joy.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I love how this has come off the back of your own
integrity and wanting to find atrue solution.
Yeah, I think what a lot ofpeople don't dive into is the
business behind healthcare andeverything.
Really, if you look at anythingthat's happening, there must be
a sustainable business.
I was chatting with a fellowyesterday and he was saying oh
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man there's just no markups incars.
You know I asked for a discounton a car.
Can I knock any more off?
Now the salesman said to me noman, if, like, there's just no
margin, that's what we'regetting it at.
And I'm sitting there saying tomyself I can't be possible,
because no business is going torun with no margin like
especially a big carmanufacturing company.
There needs to be profit formarketing and to feed families
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and to look good on the.
The balance sheet at the endyeah and every business needs to
, and I'm not saying there'sthere's anything wrong with that
, but when you look at abusiness model that may have you
coming back and continuing tocome back and, as you said, it's
not treating the cause of it,it's a, the sorry, the.
Yeah, the cause of it, it'smore the, the symptom, you will
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be returning time and time again.
It's no different to mentaltrauma.
Once again, I feel that a lotof people aren't looking at the
true cause to a lot of thereasons why we're highly
medicated in today's world andmaking changes, because the easy
solution is to go.
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I'll go get my massage everyweek or I'll have these tablets
and I'll stop having to thinkabout or dealing with the pain
and hopefully, you know, if thatpain comes back, I'll just
increase my dosage or I'llincrease my frequency of the
treatment rather than going.
What do I need to do?
Because, back to your point,jim, the body heals itself.
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It's proven that.
But what are the things that wecan use to assist that and your
curiosity to go?
I can't lie to people.
I don't want people coming back21 times a year.
For me to just slap anotherBand-Aid on has helped unlock
this huge breakthrough thatpeople are seeing you one to
three times and they're done.
That's phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, it goes back to the business side of this
conversation again.
A popular question I get is howdo you do good business then,
if you fix people too quick?
How do you do good business?
You need the volume of people,and my simple answer is it's
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amazing what happens when thehuman body actually gets better,
when you feel better, that yourbody is saying it's good, let's
go.
And you've been carrying thatshit for 10 years.
I can guarantee you that personis going to tell everybody and
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that's how my business has grown.
My greatest pain is making surethat I keep producing the
results.
So that's my ego.
I have to produce the resultsbecause that warrants why I'm
here, justifies my journey, sothat's my pain.
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That drives me every day is Ican't sit on something that is
not getting better, and if it'snot getting better, there is a
reason for that and we have tofind that reason.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I love it what's been a recent or a client of yours,
and obviously I understandclient confidentiality, but if
there's one you could talk aboutwithout their name, of of a
result that you've had that hasbeen completely life-changing
for them, something that maybeeven you, for a while, were like
.
I don't know whether I can dothis yeah, there's two scenarios
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I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
We we have been approaching pain completely
wrong in my opinion.
So the the medical literature,google chat, gpt crawl.
We're approaching painespecially in the wrong way.
Don't get me wrong.
An anesthetic is great for pain, you know.
Anti inflammatory, great forpain surgery.
If something is broken, it'sgreat for pain Surgery.
If something is broken, it'sgreat for pain.
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But we're talking pain that'sbeen lasting a very long time.
And athletes you're an athleteIf something is holding you back
, no matter how strong you areup here.
If something is holding youback, your confidence drops
guaranteed In yourself, in thepeople around you.
If you are prone to mentalhealth issues, wow, not great.
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If you're prone to bad habits,not great.
So a classic story for one I'llgive you.
The first one is the physical,just the physical pain when a
nerve lock sits in the calfmuscle, in the calf muscle.
I'll keep it simple.
You can develop this pain inyour heel and in your Achilles.
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That drives runners crazy, anelite runner, athlete,
professional footballer.
When that Achilles gives youpain and stops you running
halfway through the game, you'redoubting everything, your
confidence drops, your abilitydrops, your teammates lose
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confidence in you.
You feel worse about yourselfIf that's been around for four
years.
Can you imagine, so what thenerve lock release does?
Can you imagine?
So what the nerve lock releasedoes?
It resets the pain system inthe Achilles completely.
It increases blood flow,increases lymphatics, achilles
tendinopathy lumps start todisappear.
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It's incredible and it happenswithin weeks.
And this is the Dane Zorko storythat you just saw as a classic
example.
And he was happy to share thatbecause everybody in the public
here in Australia anyway, no, orknew that he had a big problem.
He wasn't the Dane Zorko thatpeople were accustomed to.
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So that's a simple case for thephysical side.
Then there's the other side,the emotional side.
Then there's the other side,the emotional side.
Someone carrying a hip pain for20 something years, for example
and it doesn't make senseMedically checked, two surgeons
have had a look, have hadsurgery to the lumbar spine,
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thinking that that was theproblem, and yet the pain is
still there, no-transcript, andit's stored in the
parasympathetic nervous system,in the sacrum that drove nerve
locks in the glutes and holding.
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So she needed not just thephysical nerve lock release with
my needles, but an emotionalrelease, and I had to guide her
down that path, breath workbeing one of it, a factor in
that healing journey.
So yeah, so that's two sides.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Two examples.
And so, from that side, lookingat the mental because I always
get really fascinated with themental sides of things, because
I believe everyone's carryingsome baggage and often we aren't
aware of it.
So when you're doing thingslike that, obviously the pain
can present itself.
I did a breathwork again.
I did one with your brother,yeah, and yourself.
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When was that?
Gee, that'd be 18 months ago.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I did another one recently as well at our last
workshop here and I had thisinsane pain on my knee.
I was like man.
Maybe I tore my MCL or ACL inthe water.
It was just like pressure,nothing else.
And as we were going throughthis breath work, the pain
started moving up my leg, intomy torso, into my throat, and it
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was just sitting in my throatand then I just erupted like
crying and and the whole time aswell, I wasn't like dealing
with anything in my head and Ihadn't been, and then I just had
, as it like came out.
My mind just focused on exactlywhat it was and I had this
emotional release and I'll sharewith the people uh, audience,
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just audiences because I thinkit's important.
But my biggest fear is when Ihave people at workshops or when
I have people at the events I'mreally focused on and worried
about people not having abreakthrough not being able to
help them find something toimprove upon, and there were two
blokes who came and wentthroughout the day and I was
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taking that personally.
I was like man, they're notgoing to get a result when
you're not here, focused, and Ifeel like I'm here to help men
in that way.
I don't want men taking theirlife by their own hands and I
believe finding purpose, beingaround the right people,
learning to do more challengingthings is a great way to improve
your ability and your mentalhealth in life, and so when I
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don't feel like people aregetting that experience.
I feel like I'm letting peopledown.
I'm letting myself down andthat yeah like even saying it
out loud, I'm like why would Ieven erupt on that?
But that was, that was as realas possible for me in that
moment, and it came throughphysical pain initially and then
went emotional.
I got to talk about it, I gotto think about it and it had
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never once crossed my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, really, your body has a remarkable way of
holding on to stuff and thentelling you about it later.
Remarkable way, I mean.
I am and was trained in themedical system, but what I've
observed in the human body overthe years now yeah, what do your
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colleagues say so or your peers, with your technique and your
approach to things?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
do they agree with it ?
Disagree, challenge you what's,what's that space look like?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
it's a hard question to answer because I get so many
mixed comments.
Um, definitely, my peers don'tget it, generally don't get it,
uh, and they just poo-poo it.
Uh, it's just another needling,another needling technique.
So, yay, good for you.
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That's what I generally hear.
Others are just curious, reallycurious what is this?
And that's great too.
Everyone has their own journey,so it's a mixed one.
I'm not too concerned aboutwhat my peers think.
As I said, my pain and my egois making sure people get better
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and, like yourself, you don'twant to let people down, and
that is your fear and my fearand that is what I live and
drive my work side by and careerside by is just making sure I
do good healing work, and if Ikeep doing it, I'm in love.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, and what happens when you come up against
someone, or have you come upagainst someone, that you
haven't been able to treat?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Haven't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutelyyeah.
It gives me an awful feelingthat I can't help someone Always
does, never change, becausethat's how I started this.
I always was told you're a niceguy but you suck, so it's a
sting and you get that rush of a.
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It's a.
You know it's a sting and youknow you get that rush of oh
when you can't help anyone.
But how I created this treatmentmethod is when a nerve lock
releases, the true nature ofyour problem reveals itself.
Always does the body never lies.
I believe that way back then,19 years ago, and today it's
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more certain than ever.
So therefore I'm also veryconfident now in telling you
that your pain is because ofyour emotional past locking.
I can't fix this pain justpurely through nerve locks.
When the nerve locks release,it's game on we will know.
That's why a lot of thesurgeons in Australia and in
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Brisbane particularly love whenI send a patient to them for
surgery, because it always works, Because when nerve locks
disappear, the body is ready tohave surgery.
It's actually broken the spine,for example, a very precarious
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area in many people's minds, andin surgery it's a woo.
Let's have a go.
You know the success rate'spretty good.
It's not definitive, but whennerve locks disappear it's
pretty good.
It's not definitive, but whennerve locks disappear, it's a
definite.
If your pain doesn't go away.
I failed, yes, but I know withconfidence, lucky.
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You need the surgery or youneed that procedure.
This medical pathway isdefinitely you and I bet my
house on it.
So in that way I've also givenmyself a saving grace, because I
had to look for reasons.
As I said, why isn't John Doegetting better?
Something is not right.
It's not fitting the picturewith the last hundred persons
that I've treated for the sameproblem.
Yeah, so I and I fell upon thisonly through observation.
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I just kept observing.
I used to treat like 60, 70people a week in my 20s.
I used to work my weekends justresetting people.
Resetting people, friends,families, anybody, even patients
during the week who paid.
I got them back on the weekendand treated them for free, just
to figure it out, and I keptseeing the results and I kept
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putting the data down and I onlydiscovered this through
observation.
The literature has nothing onthis.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
How do you approach?
Do or do you approach athletesdifferently to you?
Non-athletes, yeah tonon-athletes.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It all comes down to their personal story.
Um, it all comes down to theirpersonal uh story, because
everyone's body is their ownunique product of their past
emotionally, physically,spiritually, energetically,
every way.
So that's why pain isapproached incorrectly, as I
said before, because we can'tput 20 people with knee pain in
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the same sample size.
They all have differentemotional histories, they all
have different genetic codings.
That's how I approached itbecause and it's the truth like
your knee pain, for example,yeah, knee is one of the areas
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that an emotional history cancause pain in, right?
So, yes, it all depends on theperson.
Generally, athletes are highlyconnected to their nervous
system.
That's why they're so gifted inwhat they do, even musicians,
they're very connected.
So I call them, or call youguys, super duper nervous
systems.
You're very switched on andevery little tweak I do to the
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nervous system, they feel it andthe results are much more
powerful, like a hundredfold,compared to somebody who is
non-athletic.
But again, it depends on yourgoals.
Generally, the non-athleticpopulation, they want to be
pain-free, they just want to bepain-free.
The athletes, they have otheraspirations.
They want to run faster, theywant to be able to play more
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years without pain.
They don't want that thing downthere causing me problems in
games and losing my confidencein and so on.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's important.
Once you start recognizing whatthe goal is and going back to
how you developed nerve locks inthe first place is like when
you have an idea of what problemyou're trying to solve.
And that could be a lifeproblem, meaning I want to have
a life where I live mainlypain-freefree.
Who do I need to become?
(29:41):
How do I need to set mylifestyle up in order to work
towards that?
if you live a more activelifestyle.
You may need massages, you mayneed therapy, you may need gym
to help you, help assist thatlike Like I live I would say,
aggressive lifestyle in regardsto my physical goals that I set
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for myself.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You definitely test your body.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, but I definitely make sure that I
invest in the recovery processas well and definitely do listen
to my body and I have thought alot about okay in my 30s, what
would I love to do now thatmaybe I won't a lot about.
Okay in my 30s, what would Ilove to do now that maybe I
won't be able to do in my 50s or40s, so that I can really
invest in prioritizing thosethings?
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Because I'm also trying tocollect life experiences.
I think about if I was to readmy, I guess, life resume when
I'm 90, what do I want to see on?
that, and there's going to besome things that I can only do
in my 30s, that I can't do in my80s when I have more time or
money.
So I think it's very importantto think about that and tying
that back into the work that youdo, whether it's physically or
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mentally.
There are things that we shouldbe doing.
There are people we should besurrounding ourselves with.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
There are skills that we should be developing.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
There are people we should be surrounding ourselves
with, there are skills that weshould be developing,
experiences that we should besharing in order to work towards
that, because, as you said, thepeople that you see, jim, the
nerve locks that they have orthe injuries that they are
experiencing are a result oftheir past yeah, past, yeah it's
driving our future, and if wedon't like, where?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
we are presently we need to change the actions
moving forward yeah, yeah, areally good one in for you as
well, uh, because you are very,very in the athletic category.
Uh is in your 40s.
Treat your 40s like it's apreparation.
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It's a base to build on foryour 50s and 60s.
Your 40s is the time.
So in my 40s now I am preparingmy body in every way to get
through 50s and 60s moresmoothly.
This is the transition period Ifeel from what I've observed.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What have been some of the major changes that you've
made from your 30s to your 40s?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Intensity I've dropped down intensities in
certain areas like, uh, I usedto love, uh, jujitsu and and mma
and stuff like that.
I've dropped that becausefamilies, and you know, can't
keep getting my neck cranked andgetting choked out and I'm a
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family man now and so that wasmy personal, you know goal and
because my workload, myaspirations in my career and in
my relationships, you know, Idon't want to be in broken pain
but then stressing other areasof my body in my 40s to help
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deal with the, tolerate thetraumas that will come in my 50s
and 60s, accepting the,accepting the fact that my
tissues will become more fragileyep, and oxygen will degrade us
more yep, uh, you know, willthings will get saggier?
Yep, uh, you know, uh.
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So my 40s work on my hormones,work on my muscles, work on my
circulation, work on good sleeprecovery, work on good
relationship, sex life, love,the intimacy side of the human
body as well as the physicalside, and not pushing extremes
in every aspect, but in areasthat bring me more joy.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It sounds like your definition of what would be, you
know, work-life harmony orbalance, where you're yeah very
clear on what is important toyou and what you need to be
working on now in order to buildthat life for you, rather than
waking up in your 60s going.
Oh shit, my intimate side of mylife sucks.
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My body doesn't move well, I'vegot chronic pain.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I don't have any friends around.
Let's say I don't know likefunctional CrossFit, functional
lifting, the new High Rocks,high Rocks.
High Rocks yeah, high Rockslooks amazing.
When people really, in their40s, push, push and a lot of
boundaries and pbs and reallypunish their bodies, I always
see the repercussions in their50s, yeah.
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But if they're doing it with abeautiful goal, with love, and
they're also healthy on theother side of the body, which is
the intimacy, the emotional,energy side of their body, if
they're in harmony with that,their bodies are much healthier
in their 50s and 60s.
But those who just push, push,push and keep pushing the limits
because they have a painthey're running away from, for
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example, um, oh my gosh, their50s and 60s are not not healthy.
So it's a balance right, youhave to.
You have to look at yourselffrom every angle, not just.
I am capable of lifting 250 kg,so I'm just going to go and
punish this and keep trying toget better and better and better
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.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, a good place for people to start there is
even just getting out a notepadand writing down areas of your
life that are important to you,and if you're new to this, I
would just start from the macro,so I would go health, wealth,
relationship and happiness.
Yeah, okay, just like we dowith our nutrition in the
(35:29):
beginning, go carbs, proteins,fats keep it super simple before
you get into you know all thethe nuts and bolts of it and
just start there and start going.
Okay, well, in my next chapterof my life, what do I feel like
I want this area to look like?
And start writing things downand, as a result of that, you're
going to start creating a bitof a roadmap that you can dive
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into.
You can dive into the healthspace.
What do I need to learn?
As you've said, jim, you'vespoken about hormones, sex, life
, space.
What do I need to learn?
As you've said, jim, you'vespoken about hormones, sex, like
all these, all these like sub,sub categories of that that we
need to sink into and learnabout, and same with the, the
physical, uh, and and everythinglike that.
So I think it's important, butthere's a little bit of a
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starting point for people.
I know you've got a jet for aclient in a second, but what's
what's new and exciting for you?
What are you working on?
Working on that you're pumpedabout at the moment.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Our biggest one right now is I'm going to do
something special online forpeople, because the demand now
globally for nerve lock releaseis difficult, because I'm the
only one doing this and it is awhat's the word?
(36:44):
A disadvantage for many people.
So, understanding that I'mcreating something online for
people to help their nerve locksand, in some cases, get rid of
it without needing my physicaltreatment.
I do travel now.
That's the cool thing.
(37:04):
I travel and treat people inall various wonderful places.
But, yes, on the business side,the slight downfall is it's
just me and I have not startedthe process of training people
as yet.
It is in the timeline, but myenergy is currently saying that
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I need to just treat and reallyshow the world what nerve locks
are about.
It's only been a year and a bitnow since I really released it.
I kept it hidden while I wasfinishing off all my data, so it
only really finished in 2022,23.
So it's been a short time.
So now my energy is towards justtelling the world through
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awesome podcasts like this andsocial media and so on, just to
gently educate this new way ofthinking.
And that's what the athleteshave really enjoyed all the
professional athletes.
I'm giving them a wholedifferent perspective on their
bodies again, like, imagine DaneZorko going another three years
(38:11):
, lebron James going anotherthree years without having
issues because their bodies arefeeling so good.
It's a whole different concept.
And imagine like if you do amuscle strain, you're coming
back from pain and dysfunctionto full function within half the
time.
It's things like this that Iwant to gently educate now, and
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we're creating something coolonline Just to approach your
body differently.
You won't read about this ongoogle or chat, because they get
their data from the medicalliterature.
Uh, this is something that I'veobserved over the last 20 years
now, and the human body isremarkable, like remarkable um,
(38:54):
so I can't wait to share that ona new platform.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I'm excited for you, man, for everyone listening.
You can follow Jim.
I'll just get the Instagrampage up again.
You provide so much from theresource front there.
Obviously you've got the NeedleGuy page, but if you go to Jim
underscore Bostock, there is somuch content on there from
(39:18):
helping people with all kinds ofthings.
I'm just scrolling through now,so just go start watching it.
I guarantee there will be avideo there where you're like oh
, that's what I'm experiencing.
That's right.
Yeah, I think that's a coolthing.
So I'm excited to see whatyou've got coming next, because
I definitely want to be someonewho's using it as my body
continues to age.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah.
Next, because I definitely,yeah, someone who's using it as
my body continues to age.
Yeah, it's to help youunderstand your body so that
intimately, so that, yeah, whenyou make strategy, when you
create, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,very important.
When you create strategies foryour future or the next step,
you're doing it smart, because alot of the time, people stay in
pain because they just don'tknow, they're told so many
(40:02):
things and it's conflicting alot of the time, conflicting to
what you instinctivelyunderstand, you know, because
your gut or your body is saying,hey, that I would like to just
put you on a good path, narrowit down and you'll see it just
makes sense, because this is howI feel this feels right Listen
(40:25):
to your body.
Basically, listening to yourbody, it's so important, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Well, I'll let you jet to your client.
But just to summarize, I'vetaken away a few key points.
Obviously one trusting your gut.
That's what led you down thispath in the first place.
And to see you on the side oftrusting.
Your gut has now put you insuch an incredible position
where you're changing people'slives and you're loving the life
that you've created foryourself as well.
I'm fascinated by people whohave put themselves in a
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position to do what they love,to get paid to do what they love
and also have this greatwork-life harmony where they get
to spend time with their familyand still pursue their passions
, because there was generationswhere that wasn't possible.
And we live in such a great timewhere many people are leading
the way and doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
So that was some huge takeaways for me.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Where else can people find you, aside from the
Instagram page?
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Obviously, our website bossockinstitutecom,
instagram and tiktok are the twobiggest ones.
Uh, jim underscore bostock.
Uh, yeah, but we got a new teamnow we're going to create some
cool things on socials and uh,creating new online stuff, and
yeah, but best place to look isInstagram, facebook and TikTok.
(41:41):
Yeah, and it's just Jim Bostock.
Look up Jim Bostock on that andyou'll find me.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, I'll have all the links in the show notes so
everyone can find it.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
One thing I love about the work-life balance you
mentioned before with everything, and it actually connects to
what we mentioned earlier aboutour pain, our ego, our fear of
not being good enough.
A really good question I gotfrom another chat I did last
week was how do you look atwork-life balance from all the
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observations you've made frompeople?
You know thousands andthousands and thousands of
people that I've treated, fromall various sectors of life,
right and the world, how do youlook at work-life balance?
And I had to think about thatone because I've looked at and
observed so many cool peoplephysically, emotionally, and
I've treated them right.
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And when you treat a body withnerve locks, the answers reveal
themselves, always does so.
I've had a beautiful canvas ofknowledge from people and I came
to one simple conclusion is ifyou can find a way to enjoy and
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really feel joy is, I think, thebetter word with the time when
you're conscious.
If you can find a way every dayand it's always work to find
joy in the time that you spenddoing things, that is work-life
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balance.
And if we go a bit further,it's being comfortable, happy,
being secure, being aware, evento start with, of the fear
inside you, not being scared ofthat person inside you, because
that is generally commonly thereason why we have our ego.
(43:49):
Look at the world right in theway you do.
If you're comfortable and awareand happy with that and not
fearing that, you will find joyin the time that you live every
day, in whatever you're doing,and you will find the gift that
(44:11):
you have to give whether it's inrelationship, your children,
friends, entrepreneurship,business, whatever Because it
will help you find the balance,the homeostasis, because you're
not afraid anymore.
You're not afraid of I'm notgood enough, which constantly
pushes you to just keep goingfor more and can't say no.
(44:32):
For example, I can't say no, Ineed to do that when someone
else misses out.
And there goes your sex liferight, there goes that important
hormone, so your body's alwaysdoing yo-yos.
If you can find a way to stayat a beautiful homeostasis, your
hormones are thriving, yourbody's thriving.
(44:52):
That's called longevity, in myopinion, and the best way to do
that is finding joy in the timethat you are conscious it's a
simple way to think I hope thatcame across, because I'm like,
yeah, I'm like that's comingacross right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I think it's, it's, it's goes through seasons of
life.
What brings you joy today maynot be the thing that brings you
joy tomorrow, but if you stillfocus on the joy, you're doing
what needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
How many people say I make so much money and yet I'm
miserable?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Lots.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
You know, it's because we are not finding joy
in the time that we're conscious, and that can change day to day
, that can change fromrelationship to relationship,
that can change fromrelationship to relationship,
that can change from business tobusiness.
Ah yeah, if you're bored andyou're not doing your gift
enough, you will know, becauseyou are happy with that person
inside you.
You understand that person welland you're aware of him or her.
(45:52):
Oh, I need to lift a bit, okay,or oh no, I'm going way too
crazy here.
My body is suffering becauseI'm listening to it.
My body is saying hey, man,you're not sleeping well, your
bowels are not moving well, yournutrition when you're trying to
put nutrition in you, yourbody's not responding.
Your sex life sucks your kidsand you know, blah, blah, blah.
(46:13):
But I'm killing it in mycompany.
You know you can dial it.
I have to make some choicesbecause I'm not finding my body
saying I'm not really feelingjoy, even though euphoria is
there in my time.
I'm now missing my kids, I'mnow missing my intimacy with my
(46:34):
partner or whatever, right, sothen you have to dial it back
down again and then, oh, now I'mbored again, let's go up again.
We're always doing a bit of,but not this, if that makes
sense, not erratically yeah,yeah, it's the joy in time.
Time is your most precious.
Yeah, that's what everybodymade.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
It's been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Thank, thank you so much.
Oh, 45 minutes.
Look at that, nailed it.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
We nailed it to a T.
We nailed it.
It's almost like we planned it,we nailed it.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Oh, you never know.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Oh lucky, such a pleasure bro.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Likewise, mate, it's been an absolute pleasure, as
always, and I look forward tocatching up when you're either
back over here or yep, planningon coming back.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Watch out folks.
Whichever happens first, yep,yeah, can't wait to come back.
It was a lot of fun.
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