Tips and war stories for staying healthy as a photographer

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Michael Mowbray (00:06):
recorded my from a milking parlor in the
heart of America's Dairyland.
It's the photo happy hourpodcast. Hey, and welcome
everybody come on in and grab aseat at the bar. I'm your photo
happy hour bartender MichaelMowbray and I'm shaking up a
kamikaze of tart photographywisdom today. Joining me behind

(00:27):
the bar are Dan Frievalt. AndCarl Caylor.

Dan Frievalt (00:33):
What's up everyone?

Carl Caylor (00:35):
Hey, folks, Kamikaze Wow.

Oh, yeah.
Having like Kamikaze forever.
Actually, you know what? I thinkthe last time I had a kamikaze.
I was in Michigan. I was in St.
Joe Benton Harbor. Yeah. Godbless was to be Yeah. And that
was the night I met MuhammadAli, who had because he had a
home near there. And he came tothe he was like in the hotel
bar. So we're drinking kamikazesat the bar, and someone goes, I

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think it's Muhammad Ali backhere. And it's like now it's not
a turn around. Like, oh my god,it's Muhammad Ali. So that was
pretty cool. That'd be cool.

Yeah. That'd be worthwhile being the bar.

Fly like a butterfly sting like a kamikaze?
Yeah.

That was that was a rough night that you
bought a

drink.

You should have bought him a drink? No, he's
Muslim. He doesn't drink. As amatter of fact, he could only he
could only get an autograph fromhim. He had pamphlets. He had a
briefcase. He had an assistant,there was a briefcase. And he'd
open up the briefcase and hadall these pamphlets on Islam.
That he would sign in give themto you. Wow. Yeah, I just I
don't want an autograph. I justwanted to shake his hand. big

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hands. Oh, believe it Yeah. Sowhat do you guys drinking
whiskey? All right. Here's ashocker a yeah to bring it back
from Tennessee.

I did actually. Jen Kate gifted me another bottle
that and I had already boughtanother bottle and so we hate
that. No, no, no we drink Ithink to while I was there while
we were there. I'm the sameplace now. They make a salted
watermelon.

Salted watermelon not

that warm. So what he said I said the same thing.
Like we got it we got it butthey had a little sample thing.
He's those little cute littledoll drink thing bottles and so
we bought a couple of those andI'll tell you what, you can
really smell the wit thewatermelon. It was. It was a
we're still not sure if we likedit or not. But it was certainly
different. Could you

run a car on it if you needed to?

Ah, you could certainly start fires. I'm not
sure if it would run the car butit would help start the fire.

I have a red wine and Italian red wine

from a TiVo

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Joby Garibaldi,

calamari, squeezy. Bell, Omari. Yeah,
let's go.

Hey, what are we talking about? What are we doing
here? What do we do? Do alreadyrecording? I'm just saying After
all, we are recording so so Oh,yeah.

Are we okay, I did. I didn't hit record. Okay.
So if you're joining us for thefirst time, or the 21st time,
the premise of the show, is weare three professional
photographers who have beenaround for a while. And we get
together and we have, I don'tknow, maybe a few drinks. And
then we talk about photography.
And each week we try to have atopic, sometimes it works.
Sometimes it doesn't. But thisweek, we're going to talk about

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health and what we do to stayhealthy as photographers because
it's wear and tear on the bodywear and tear on the brain. Or,
or maybe just war stories aboutinjuries and illnesses that
we've shot through. So I'm gonna

talk about health over drinking. Cheers,
everybody. Yeah, that was.

So by the way, I think you figured out one of
the things that we use to helpmake it through the day is

mental health is important if it means to have a
drink now and again, you know,I'm not gonna judge or call
COVID season you know, if you'refrom Wisconsin, or it's

Unknown (04:28):
Tuesday, Wednesday,

or you know, and if you think about this, you just
read the Bible it says right inthe Bible, drink the good wine
first. So I mean, this is thisis a spiritual thing as well.

So when Jesus hung out with his friends, they
ran out of ran out of wine. It'slike, bring me the water on turn
into wine. Yeah, yeah. You wantto if you want to party with
that, dude,

you got

absolutely. I mean beer and wine, water. You know,
it was more purified or more.
You purified water yeah soabsolutely horrible So back in
the day you drink wine you drinkbeer because you didn't get sick

sick it's true

well and beer has no beer has a lot of nutrients
in it does supposedly hops,right

that's that's why the the monkey used to brew
those really really deep darkDoppel box and things like that
in my box they they brewed thosefor one season because when
there's they're fasting you canstill drink you know whatever
and they drank this really heavybeer because it's full of
nutrients is basically like aslice of bread and every glass

I was gonna say is that where up is that where that
term apart chopping it everyglass can pretty much do this.
You can

good dark beer you can drink it with the fork
Really? I mean come on. So

all the people in the village like Oh, look at
those holy monks are fasting upthere on the hill and drunk off
their butts.

keg stands going on.

Guys are illustrating the yield of their
Bibles are all like your modernart and all of them.

Now we know and that's the rest of the story.
Oops, there you go. We just

filled in is there you go.

Can we call that pop culture? That's
medieval pop culture.

There we go guys.
Cheers, everybody. Absolutely.

So you want kids you won't find that lesson in
your history books. You're onlyright here on the photo happy
hour.

And you're not going to get it at school
because they all went virtualanyway, so

you can probably see it on YouTube. So
there we go. Probably Yeah. Allright. So what's the start off?
What's the worst? Worst injuryillness whatever that you ever
shot through? Either for asession or a wedding or
whatever?

Just been so many.

Unknown (06:54):
Yeah, I think

let's let's start with let's start with what
happened during a shoot. Oh,yeah. Okay. Yeah. So back right
after my college days, I workedfor a studio disappear and I
built them a new camera room anda new lab and one of the things
that he wanted was to have thosethe tracks the lane tracks that

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had the like scissors arms hecould pull down the lights and
everything so he had no standson the floor and it worked out
great problem was it was verytall ceilings taller than what
most of us as scissors arms weresupposed to be used on. So we
creatively came up with weightspacers we'll call them well one

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of the days I studio manager wasstill there. And I was there to
photograph a family that came inbut it was after somewhat after
normal hours that was when thefamily could be there. And they
were just getting them all setup. I was swinging the main
light into the right place and Iturned around to grab my fill
light and I thought what cheesea better I forgot something I've

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reached back and I was somethinghit me in the head so hard
knocking onto the floor. Themain light fell off the scissors
arms and we were using the timewe had white lightning 1800s

Yeah. Oh, that's that's like a cinder block.

Yeah, coming right down. I was like the rest of the
session. I was like holding myhand up here cloth because
there's bleeding so much likekeeping pressure out of here and
photographing here. So but youknow is the only time they could
all get together and but yeah,those those suckers heavy. I'll
tell you what. And yeah, thatthat left a mark

blocks of concrete. Yeah, I was setting up
now wasn't quite as heavy. Itwasn't a white lightning, but it
was an alien B that I wassetting up on a stand Way up
high. And I was basicallypopping it into the ceiling in
my studio. And just kind of getsome backfill in whatever. And I
turned the work on somethingelse that was during a senior
session. And I heard something Iturned back and this thing fell

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from I don't know, it wasprobably up about 1012 feet.
Boom, hit me right in the nose.
Split it open blood goingeverywhere. It's like I just
started this session. So I'mlike, excuse me for a second so
I cover my face book comingdown. When God when got a band
aid. A couple of band aidsactually covered it up finish
the session. Seniors do whateverit takes. Dude, that's that's

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badass. It's like Hey, man, Iwas too busy to reschedule. We
got to get this done. doneright.

I mean, knock on wood. You guys are gonna Jinx
me. I can't think of

Unknown (09:37):
anything.

Oh, man. I could go out

going i know i think this is gonna be the Carl
Michael show. I mean, I had I'vehad a senior pass out during the
session that was kind of freakycuz he was dehydrated and worked
out before and it was kind of awarm day and I'm and it was
Yeah, yeah. You know, and it's aguy and he's kind of thing I'm

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photographing him. And you knowhow guys are they get kind of,
they're not as much intosessions. And I'm photographing
him and I can kind of see like,his facial expressions, kind of
weird and he's turning, I don'tknow, maybe the color was coming
out with something didn't seemright. And I just like, brought
the camera down was like, oh,what's up? You know, I'm trying
to like, get them in the groupbefore I take the next picture

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as I'm talking to them, like,Oh, shit, he's going down. And
so I you know, I'm using I thinkat the time was 7200. Sounds a
little ways away, but I couldtell he was like certain a
wobble and I, I ran in, caughtthem. And he just kind of did
the melted down to the ground.
Oh. So we Yeah, we pumped himwith water. And I said, let's

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just reschedule. Him and a momare like, No, I'm good.

Unknown (10:54):
Boy,

yeah, I'm so good on it, you'll be fine.

I'm thinking, Oh, I hope they won't sue me as
something else happens. But

yeah, everybody pass it on you, Michael.

Ah, we lost. We almost lost a groom a couple
years back. And it was like, I'mlike I'm at the back of the
aisle. And it was it was that awas that that a golf course
outside of Fond du Lac wasspring springs or something like
that. So it wasn't wasn't verylong aisle. But I'm seeing he's
just gone. He's starting towobble a little bit. You can see

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the wobble on the wall. Whathappens like Yeah, and I turned
to crystal is helping me outwith ABS like he's going down.
So she's circled back around theside. And I kept I came down the
aisle. I didn't like Ron. But wegot there. And we're like, he's
like, we just put a chairunderneath. So he finished the

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violins finish the ceremonysitting in the chair. So the
bride sat down. The chair wasactually kind of cute. But yeah,
he didn't totally, he didn'ttotally go all the way down. But
it was close. That's the closestI've come to losing anybody
during a session.

Or I thought I lost the grandma one time. She at
Texas School, mind you. One ofour models we were at it was the
year of hell, we were at St. OrSt. Austin, whatever that that
the college in between where weare now in from after a&m. And
it was just a complete and totalchaotic week, the school was not

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prepared for us at all. I mean,the university, they didn't know
what they got themselves into.
So it was it was challenging tosay the least. But we're also
having the same challenges asnormal. We're trying to get
models in for the class. And soone of the days the young girl
came in, and for mom andgrandmother came with her, and
we were so short on models. I'mlike, Can we split you three up,

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you really need to be here towatch her daughter can. Mom, can
you go with this group andGrandma, can you go with this
group? And they're like, Oh,that's cool. And they had a
blast. And I knew the next daywas going to be very similar as
far as lack of models. So Isaid, Is there anybody that can
come back? And the grandmaslike, Well, I know they can't,
but I had a blast today. I loveto come back. So right.

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Absolutely, Grandma, come on in.
So we're starting with grandmain the morning. And she's the
only model that was there. So Iwas going to do a class
demonstration. She walkedoutside and you know, Texas, a
little bit different than, thanhere it was like 148 degrees and
113% humidity or something likethat. It was hot, to say the

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least. And we get out there andwe're photographed grandma had
she was classy. She had reallynice jewelry really nice
clothing. Her hair was likeAbsolutely. prim and proper.
Classic Hold on. No, she'ssmarter than that. But there was
a really nice sports car parkedoutside that just happened to

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match the color of her dress. Ithought, Hey, we're gonna
photograph this class. Next toit, but we're getting that point
we never got to it Actually, shekind of fell across it. But that
doesn't count. So we're justjust right right here

snake.

One creative one image, turned her on to talk to
the class about what we did andwhat were what I was looking for
what I was seeing. And as I'mturning around looking at the
class, I could see the eyes ofthe students in the class going
Ah, there's something wrong andI turned on just in Tennessee,
grab it hit them hit thepavement. Oh, no. I thought we

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killed grandma. So here we arecalling 901 to try and revive
grandma. She just got a littlebit too excitement, too much
heat and his lack of fluids. Butyeah, I mean people could you
guess and I had to that's, youknow all our rules that we have
for my sessions. And I'm sureyou guys have rules too, that
you explain to your yoursubjects when they're sitting

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there before you get started.
But one of my rules is make sureyou breathe in an hour over and
over again. Because otherwiseyou turn blue in your pass out
and have this strict rule nowabout photographing dead people.
And that's where that allstarted this session. Nobody
dies through my sessions. Iswear to God, but oh my gosh,
but so it's not always usgetting sick. Sometimes it's

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Yes, our subjects but you moveon and you do it. You can it's
it's good to have a first aidbackground. Or at least a plan
of attack, you know, or a firstaid kit

that helps whichever fluids and fluids
water along. Yeah, I have afirst aid kit and I haven't used
it in, like 15 years. We're notgoing. We were camping a couple
weeks ago and someone got cut.
And they're like, do you have aband aid? I'm like, No, and I'm
like, Oh, wait. I have a firstaid kit in my truck for

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sessions. My photo truck. Myphotoshot along with bobby pins,
safety pins, bra binders. bugspray after bio booty. booty
shorts. Yeah. thinks it mostguys should not have carrying
around a truck glitter, smokebombs.

Duct tape, chainsaw, you know, the
important stuff.

Absolute importance.

Yeah. tourniquet, you know, stuff like that. But
you know, it makes you wonder. Imean, some of those folks. I
mean, I was just doing Tennesseethis last week photographing and
it was different than normal,because what it was hot and
humid in, in your meltingconstantly and but we're out the
kid wanted to be, he's going tobe a wildlife specialist or DNR

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specialist or officer, whatever.
That's what he wants to dooutside of high school. And so
we did a lot of his stuff out inthe woods and with his hunting
equipment and things like that.
At that great. This is right upmy alley. But it was a different
feeling because we're constantlywas you're on the ground for
rattlesnakes and copperheads inpoisonous spiders. I'm going I'm

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not used to this stuff at all.
But I'm wondering now, people inthose places. I mean, you
curious, is there such thing asa snake kit? Or? I don't even
know. I mean, do they have likean anti venom that you can carry
with ya

or I think so.
But no, no, you got me curious.
I thought yeah.

But it's something to think about because

well, that's weird to like he bases we go even here
with the bees and the epi penstuff. It's like it's even
aspirin. Like, as a as a placeof business. You're not supposed
to administer or offer thatstuff up. So yeah, I mean, if
someone's dying, I mean, yeah.
Can you maybe want to pick thepoison out of their leg? You

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know, or piano or something? Imean, it's

a thing, right?
We're jellyfish,

jellyfish. If you're in Florida, you're
shooting on the beach. Yeah.

Unknown (18:03):
I love it, man. I love it.

That's a friends.
That's a friends reference, if

not culture. Well even

have even mosquitoes because I had a guy a
couple years back. Who got amosquito mosquito bite right in
the middle of his forehead. Iwas like, oh, that sucks. Start
to go. Oh, he turns out he wassuper allergic to mosquitoes.
I'm like, wow, yeah, maybe wantto tell me that before we go
outside? Cuz there's buzz ketosout there. Yeah. Can you

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Photoshop that? I'm like, dude,you got like a section of your
forehead. I'm not. We might wantto ice that. Let's just say
everyone got a cold drink andput on

a sharpie a job.
Your alien coming out of hisgut?

Where those characters from Monsters Inc.
You know?

Start talking.
I was okay.

That's so much here, here. Right.

So why did you crop all these shots? Like just
above the? Well, here's the

speaking Speaking of which, different little
tangent here. Did you ever youknow purposely do that like crop
and cut the top of the head off?
We've all done that. Right?
Yeah. But have you have a clientsay like, I don't want I don't
like that image and like, whynot? Well, cuz his head's
missing. You cropped off thehead. I go. Well, his body is
missing too. We crop that off.
But the problem with that is,yeah, they're like, yeah, I

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guess you're right. But it'skind of people freak out when
their heads missing. But when,when the body's missing. Yeah.

As a matter of fact, I kind of like to crop
into the top of the head ontight head shots. Especially
Especially if we're doing moreof a panoramic kind of look I
think it's a lot better look todo that

yeah right mixture is powerful.

Exactly. And put them in a nice nice spot to
campus.

The The only downfall with that is when you
order if they I still sellwallets I know that's a

Oh yeah, let's cruise that.

Yeah Really it really comes head I was like
right the eyeball the eyebrows.
So I'm adding like some onsometimes you know,

a folder full of head tops that you could just

Hey Helman soon to seniors on locked. Top overlays.

We're gonna have gingers and

blonde hair and top.

blonde hair brown here, black here. What are you
so people dye their hair we haveblue and it's gonna look like a
unicorn. This is gonna be great.
The unicorn.

I love it.
Human adjustment layer on there.
You can make it whatever coloryou want.

conehead Conan.

So what were we talking about today? Oh, okay.

I was gonna say what's the worst pain that
you've shot through?

Every wedding that I've ever done?

Yes, yes. Yeah, the worst pain ever. I went through
that, I think was when I wasn'tsupposed to be. wasn't supposed
to be lifting anything otherthan Well, maybe a beer and I
couldn't even drink that. Sotriple hernia. Ooh. But yeah,

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okay. You will, but we hadsomebody in. And my son put the
camera on the tripod, and itstayed there. Yeah. And I but I
had to photograph. There was onesession, I could not reschedule.
It was a business session thatpeople were coming from. Who
knows where long that long wayaway? It was for the same

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Corporation I've been workingon. I did not want to lose that
corporate job. And so we justsucked it up. But yeah, it was a
little sweaty on that one. But aclose close second. I'll let you
go. And then I'll give you theclose second, but

yeah, I shot three weddings with kidney
stones. You and actually myfavorite wedding I've ever shot
was one of those three. Butyeah, no. There are no there's
no such thing as good kidneystones. But these were, these
were it felt like somebody wastaking like a ball peen hammer,

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and just bang,

Unknown (22:36):
bang, bang

bang. You know, it's like, right in the side and
my back was it was not good. Notgood.

Not good. It was a no fun. No,

not triple triple hernia, but yeah,

yeah, you know, I did. I did recall being injured
once now. And it was weddingrelated. But I used to play a
lot of sand volleyball. Andwhich sounds kind of unique.
Since I'm in Wisconsin. Well, wehave indoor. So we do play your
door door and volleyball indoorsand volleyball. Yeah. But this

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was in the summer. And I play ita lot. I used to play like every
night of the week and leaguesand in tournaments on the
weekends. But with weddings, Istopped doing tournaments. But
anyways, during the leagueduring the week, I really hurt
my shoulder bad went up and justblocked the ball and it just hit
it wrong. And I couldn't lift myarm like more than halfway up.

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And I was like, Oh no, I can'teven lift the camera to my face.
And this was like on on aWednesday. And you know, of
course weddings and Saturday. SoI'm like, Oh, you know, but I
did. I did push through it. Andby Saturday it loosened up
enough that I could at least getthat camera up. But yeah, a lot
of ice, ibuprofen.

But yeah, it got got to the point where I
last few years I've shotweddings. I always take two
Aleve. Just before I leave thehouse. You know, it's just

it's cute.

No, I mean, that's what that's I mean,
that's the, like, the precautionfor the day. Yeah. And that
would that would help. I youknow, actually one of the worst
ones. And it just popped up outof nowhere is I got plantar
fasciitis right in the middle ofa wedding. And I had never had
it before. I had no idea whatwas going on was a may wedding.

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We're shooting the rooftop ofmanana terrace and Madison, so
it was all concrete. And thenall of a sudden it just felt
like somebody had taken thatsame ball peen hammer that
bastard keeps following mearound. He's following me around
and just beat on the bottom ofmy heel with it. I couldn't
figure it out. I was basicallydragging a leg. For the last
three hours of that wedding. Ihad no idea what the hell went
on. It's like I step onsomething like pattern ever. So

yeah, it's amazing how much adrenaline can get you
through. stuff. Oh, yeah. Youknow, and when you're at a
wedding, I mean, you know, Ialways kind of left the, we've
had I've talked to I mean, spenta lot of time with my wedding
couples, before wedding day. Andthat was one thing I said, I
said, you know, one of thebenefits of going with me is

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that I belong to PPA,professional photographers of
America and I belong to, mostimportantly, for their sake, the
Wisconsin group, and why is itimportant to you? Because if
something were to happen to me,it one it would have been really
bad. I mean, I'd be i'd need tobe on my deathbed not to be at

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your wedding. I mean, I don'tcare if I'm sick. If I'm named,
I will be there. Unless I'mlike, dying. And if that
happens, I know there's peoplethat I trust that nor my files,
or my wife is going to callsomebody on that list and say,
Hey, Carl just went down. He'sdown, Amanda, and somebody is

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going to pick up that list andbe at your wedding. And that's,
that's, it's a contingencything. And it's something that
if we are photographingweddings, you should do should
be doing that folks should havesomebody that knows where your
stuff is because I I've had onmultiple occasions in the last
2530 years dealing with this.
bridal couples call me on youknow, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Friday, say, Hey, are youavailable for wedding? Sure.
When? This Saturday, Mike, what

a bad day?

Yeah, I've had that too. On a Saturday, can you?
Saturday morning, phone rings?
Can you come to a wedding? Sure.
When today? Why am I gettingthat call? Because we can't find
our photographer. They're notcalling back. They're not
nothing. Some of them skip town,you know. So there's bad there's
this bad people out there. Butsome were sick. And they didn't
have a contingency plan. It'slike guys, right? You better

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have a backup. And that's whythese organizations are so
important to be part of and havepeople that you know, and can
trust that have your back onthese kind of things. So

I filled in twice for other photographers.
Luckily, I've never had to havesomeone fill in for me. But
yeah, I've I've done it a fewtimes filled in for people who
broke broke a leg or got like, abad really bad because
meningitis or something likethat juicy. Oh my god. Yeah. So

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yeah, she was on her deathbed.
So yeah.

death in the family. I mean, we've had that
too. I mean, yeah, you step in,because and it's

like, yeah, I'll be there. Exactly. You know, no
questions. It's not about pay.
It's not about money. Nope. I'mgonna be there for you.

Yeah. And I've always said the same thing to my
customers too. And never, nevermissed. A wedding never showed
up late for a wedding. And Ithink some of that, quite
honestly, is we all playedsports, right? That's right. I
think I mean,

I guess I learning part of

it. I took a line drive off the leg in the
second inning pitching. finishedthe game. hurt like hell later
on, you know, couldn't believethe size of the bruise. I had a
bruise is this big on my thigh?
You know, raise up about thatmuch too. But you know what,
guys?

Not even that big.

I was just gonna say

no, no, dude.
Back in the day. It was actuallythe strongest part of me was my
thick thighs. I do. skinny guywith thick thighs.

There you go.

Really hard to big,

big, thick white thighs.

Do you know

what? You know what they say? big hands. Big feet.
Big wise, you know? And bigguys? Yeah, big guys. Yeah. You
know, but you hit it right onthe head. I think a big part of
prepping for a wedding or forphotography, in general is is
some kind of athletics. Itreally does help because, one,

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it's the mindset of just you'regoing to, you're going to get
through this and you're going tolive on adrenaline, you're going
to get through whatever it takesto get the job done. And you're
going to do it no matter what.
Period it's, it's done. So it'sagain your game face yet well,
and go in.

Yeah, this kind of brings up a totally random
thought but back in the day,that Ozzy Osbourne reality show,
you know, and you know, Ozzy isgetting ready for tour. So he
had the personal trainer comeand he's like lifting weights,
you know, and he's like, Oh, Igot it, you know, he's got to
get in shape. For the tour, thetour and right and, you know,

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it's like that tour is is, youknow, even at his age, or
especially at his age, you know,even though he's not moving much
around and stage it's it's it'sa workout it's a group of
mentally task demanding. Soyeah, you know when when I did
weddings I was in better shapebut still on Sundays, man I mean

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because you I was wiped out andmuscles are hurt like I never
knew I had because you're likerolling and squatting and
twisting and like running and ohyeah another I just had another
horror story my very firstwedding I ever did. No. Very
soon maybe not my very first one

I said don't say your first one cuz I think I was
there and that was

the first one.
Yeah, that's it I think it wasmy my. Well that was the first
one. Yeah, so my first one Iassisted at. So it probably was
the first assisted one but itwas outdoor wedding. It was one
of those Wisconsin days it wasover 100 degrees, high humidity
and here's probably a pro tip ifyou're new to weddings don't
Well, maybe it's not a pro tipbut should be common sense.

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Don't wear brand new black dressshoes to wedding. In fact, no.
In fact, I suggest and I learnedthis later on, it's just get
black tennis shoes. Or it'sokay.

It was a great

yeah, it's okay.
But yeah, I had black likeSkechers which I thought were
pretty comfortable, which theyare but Oh, my, my feet were
blistered in raw and bleedingand shit. And I didn't have band
aids and I have tape. So it'sjust all day long after the
first like hour, it was just rawskin rubbing against the

sausage, just like

I just keep going. And as long as I kept
moving, it was fine. When Istopped for a few minutes. It's
like, Ah, yeah, I switched ablack Air Jordans the last few
years of wedding. So there yougo, you know? Because it just
you know, you're wearing blackpants it kind of blend in there
and good support. Yeah, it wasfunny. Looking for go out on the

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dance floor. And, you know,like, you know, like taking
shots and turning. You get thebasketball week.

Hey, there's a there's a new, there's a new
idea we need. We need sneakersfor wedding photographers. It's
an untapped market. Yeah,

well, click

Jordans.

already have it?
Try try echos echo has the dressshoe. That is I mean, it looks
kind of like a dress shoe. Butit's so much like a tennis shoe.
And they don't last long. Imean, back in the wedding. When
I was doing a lot of weddings. Iwould destroy a pair in one
season. But they weren'tcomfortable. They didn't kill

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your feet like dress shoes do.
Give it a try. echoes echoes.

echoes, echoes. So speaking of Air Jordans, yeah,
of course. I mentioned this lastweek, I think I'm watching the
the Netflix series, the finaldance, I think it's called.
Yeah. And they talked aboutJordan signing his endorsement
with Nike, which everyone at thetime was with Adidas, and, but

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he didn't want to compete witheveryone, so his agent or his
agent and want him to compete,whatever. And so he's like,
let's go after Nike. And I'm notgoing to get the numbers right
here. But they were hoping toget like, a $4 million return.
You know, in like, five, fiveyears and they got like, like,
yeah, like a 20 million $20million return in the first year

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from you. Yeah,

yeah. Yeah. See Michigan Go Blue. Just saying.
I, they now of course, MichaelGeorge. It's a big, it's their
main sponsor for their sportingattire. And now they're, he's
making a specific University ofMichigan. tennis shoe of running
shoe. It's not even justbasketball. It's a running shoe.

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My wife just saw a K popped upon the, I think got an email
from the M den or Michigan orwhatever. But it's, it's pretty
sharp looking. And of course, ithas the slam dunk thing, a logo
kind of thing going on, but it'san actual running shoe not
basketball shoe. Oh, wow. So

that's that's kind of where I started. I mean,
I bought my first pair of Nikes.
The Nike remember the Nikecortezes. This is taking
everybody back. So if you're ofa certain age, so they're the
white ones with the red swoosh.
And now those are my first firstreal track shoes I bought in
like Junior High back in thelate 70s. That's all that's been

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around. Crazy shape.

Yeah, another another cool Netflix series, I
think it's called. I think it'san abstract. It's called
abstract. And it has a bunch ofdifferent creators. Each episode
is a different creative personand one of the episodes is the
guy who designed every singleJordan tennis shoe You know,

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kids through the years, yeah.
And how they innovated. And, youknow, it wasn't just like, they
just like, oh, let's just dothis and hang on to it. It was
all about design and Jordan hadinput and they'd get together
and yeah, look it up a fun job.
Right? Yeah. Wow.

So something else I was thinking about based on
this, injuries or whatever. Youknow, I were, this is gonna be
kind of twofold. Two part.
Comment here, I guess. Commentnumber one is, I still see a lot
of times teaching classes andstuff that the people the
students are like, Jesus stuffis heavy, I, I can't believe of

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heaven. And we kind of we alllaugh because we have a shot
film and, you know, quarter onour Z's with big hoods, I mean,
he's are like two or three timesthe weight of what we're
carrying around now. So, butpart of me is saying you know,
what you need, you need toprepare for this stuff you have
to have, even if even the light,yeah, you need to lift a little
bit, you need to do some work.

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And note, because not only is itgoing to make you a better
photographer, and more efficientperson to be moving around, but
it's going to keep you frominjuring yourself, because even
as light as our cameras areright now, it's still kind of
heavy, and you're gonna hurtyour rotator cuff, you're gonna
hurt, you're gonna get tenniselbow, you're gonna get carpal

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tunnel. It's just, it's a wearand tear on the body. So get
some physical activity and youknow, go to the gym, workout at
home, stretch, for God's sakes,stretch a little bit. You can't
just come in cold and expectyour body to handle all this.

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Because with repetition, yourbody is not going to handle it.
That's all there is to it. Soget a gym membership, or do
everything like everything isnow virtual. Watch it on
YouTube, but do something. getin shape, stretch before session

stretch before big wedding day, get good form.
I mean, there is good form forholding and shooting camera and
there's bad form, do see a lotof bad form. Because I don't
know if anybody's teaching outthere. But you see flying elbows
out in arm, it's just going toit's going to hurt your elbow,
it's going to hurt your shoulderover time, we ended up having a

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lot of repetitive motion kind ofinjuries in this business
between holding a camera like,you know, a wedding day, I mean,
a big long wedding day. Itwasn't unusual for me to shoot
1500 to 2000 images. Right? Youknow, and that's, that's how
many times I mean, the camerasdown the cameras up. That's 2000
times. Let's say you're pickingthat camera up to the eye. And I

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don't know about you guys. Butyeah, or drinking shots keys,
but I mean, I i've always stillfind myself holding my breath
when I take the shot. You know,I stopped I kind of stopped
breathing. You do that? How manytimes throughout the day and
you're getting short on oxygen,you know, as well.

Not only that, I'm like crouched down, holding my
breath taking a shot. So then Ithen I jump up and take a breath
and it's like all the bloodrushes in my head

is breaking the day, isn't it?

Yeah. Speaking of which, car car? Oh, you remember
when you were? I think he hadrotator cuff and maybe that's
another one you could talkabout. But that's when I first I
was at W PPI and I bought thespider holster before. Yep.
anyone knew about the spiderholster? Yeah, and so and that

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was a thing because having thosestraps and stuff always like,
like hurt my neck would be sosore. So I was walking through
the trade show and saw thespider holster and the guy's
like China and I'm like, I don'tknow I like I move it weddings.
I'm running. I'm running duringregular sessions. He's like,
here you go throw my camera on.
So here I am on I'm I'm runningup and down the trade show thing

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like this is awesome. Becauseall the weight. It was on the on
your hips. Yeah. And so I thinkCairo came, you know, later and
I was talking to him. He's like,Where is he when he comes
running back? He's like,

Unknown (39:13):
yeah, like

and and and since then they've exploded. Because
Because it is a cool design. Andit does it takes that weight off
your shoulders.

I always use mine for sessions outside.

Oh, I do. I still do. Absolutely funny cuz

I use it for all my outdoor sessions. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's all I use. And in fact,
now it's weird because when I goon vacation, I have a regular
camera with the strap and I'mlike, Oh my gosh, this is

terrible. Just it just just talk. You know, all
day. Yeah, talking on you.

So I got the little one that can go on the
belt. Yep, the little holsterbecause I got a smaller camera
for vacation too and I clip thatsucker on the same way. It's
awesome.

They make when they make For your bow now for
archery for attaches to yourbackpack. It's the same thing. I
don't think I'm not sure if it'sdumb, but it's a knockoff. I
said, I think I told her mybrother said, that sells him at
his shop. Like the if this isn'tspider holster, they're gonna
get sued. But, but it's stillcool because now it attaches to

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your backpack, whatever back butwhat kind of daypack you have in
your bowl just slides into justlike a camera. So I mean, it's,
it's a slick system. It's, Iremember, I know, at least to
Texas school classes, thatpeople saw me wearing it during
class. And it's one of thethings I tell them about why I'm
using it for for health sake,number one, for me, and health

(40:45):
sake for the subject number two,because if you have if you have
a camera strap on, you know,things dangling down here in
your chest or in your belly, andyou reach down to fix somebody's
hair or their clothing whenthey're sitting on the ground.
And it's like, your wreckingball smacks him in the face. For
some reason they don't likethat. I don't know. I mean, it's

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harder to retouch that out.
Yeah,

it's all in how you use it because I never liked
the spider holster for weddings,because I was always using two
cameras. So I had a black rapiddual system that was more like a
chest harness. And because thenI could grab either hand and,
and that way if I'm trying towork through the crowd, I can
use my hand and kind of sweepthe camera back, you know, and
can turn sideways. So yeah, soit wasn't as wide you know. But

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one of the nice things when youget those little snotty nose
kids are always running aroundthe reception because because
their parents decide it's youknow, they're there as guests
and it's their holiday and theydon't have to watch your kids
and so their kids are runningaround and like holy tears. I
tell you what, you clock one ofthose with a 70 to 200 and a
head they settled down prettyfast.

shaky first guy say Oh, I'm sorry.

Do we have to put a disclaimer here? I do not.

I do not endorse that more child. Child parenting
tips from Michael come into thenext episodes. So

I will say this about

the bastards away from the cake. That's the
other thing.

Exactly. I will say this though, cuz I noticed it
tell us to all the studentsanywhere I'm teaching but I know
that at least two full classeshave purchased spiders by the
end of the week. Everybody inthe class has spider holes. It
was great. But I do cautioneverybody that when you're

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wearing them Be careful you doget used to it I mean to use to
it that it just it's like it'slike a gunslinger he swam out
wherever don't win Do not worry.
I've had it I had my camera hitthe ground like two or three
times now because I use so usedto just dropping in there and
also ah crap I wasn't wearing embelt this time. And the camera
has to grow and so I justcaution you about that but

(43:01):
health really camera, not justthe camera.

Yeah, I always listen for the click but when I
don't have the holster on everyonce in a while, it's kind of
like when you you drive a stickshift and then you jump in, you
know in the automatic automaticvehicle with that. You're always
your foots always going throughthe clutches you're coming to a
stop sign. There's no clutchthere. It's kind of like that.
People are looking they'relooking at me because I keep
trying to like they're like whyare you just keep robbing your

(43:28):
camera in your head? It's like Ijust

Unknown (43:30):
feel good.

Yeah, my camera my hip. I can rub it. Nevermind.
Anyway, so it goes car

getting drunk. So we made some frisky.

I know anything about that. Anyway. So anyway.
So what other things can we cancan people do to take care of
themselves? I here's one, I'llthrow this out at you. Um, years
ago, now. Okay, there's a afterstory to this. But how bad

(44:10):
weddings are on the body, in thebed on your shoulders, back
feet, everything. I just Idecided I need to take a massage
after every wedding. So I'm justgoing to build the price of a
massage. I'm just going to addthat on to my wedding prices.
Like it so I did that

brilliant.

I probably got one massage a year. So I made
more profit. But I didn't takecare of myself and get that
massage every time.

Oh, you. You're saying? You're saying you're
like oh, I'm just gonna pocketthe

money. I had a pocket. I didn't I didn't follow
through and like, you know, goand get the therapeutic massage.
night I emphasized therapeuticmassage therapy. Yeah.

In February we jumped on the peloton bandwagon
as you guys know, and it's it'sIt's an amazing thing. I was
kind of like, leery, but, Imean, the bike is awesome. The
community is awesome. Theworkouts are awesome. You get
used to certain trainers andthey really push you. And if you

(45:13):
want my peloton code to save$100 let me know. But anyways,

it'll be on a Facebook page saying Yeah,

but but it is and there's they're backlogged right
now because of you know, there'sso many gyms being shut down and
and their facility being shutdown and, and they've had to
pivot as well. So it'sinteresting to see how they have
pivoted, because their main coreworkout facility where they
would record everything was inNew York. So they set up cameras

(45:44):
in the trainer's littleapartments, and it was cool,
because you could, you got toknow the trainers, even more and
their personalities even moreand is more intimate. And
there's just, it's cool, becausethere's tons of workouts like, I
never I don't think I've evertaken an actual live workout.
Because there's so many justcool archived breakouts and you

(46:05):
jump on and push each other andyou have metrics and they, they
encourage you. So yeah, I mean,that has helped me through in it
helps me both physically and inside thing that I didn't realize
is mentally because it is, thereis so many positive affirmations
that they're telling you andbecause we all feel that way.

(46:25):
It's like I didn't want to behere. I didn't want to jump on
this bike today. But they'relike you did it and you in now
it's done. And you know, goodfor you. And just like other
little things, like how manynegative thoughts you have
during the day? And you focus onthat? What if you change all
those negative thoughts topositive thoughts? How much
brighter outlook would you have?
You know, during the day, so,yeah, and they got cool music. I

(46:48):
mean, you can eat Yeah, I mean,rock music, pop music like and,
and it's smart to like from abusiness aspect. Like they're
hooked up with Apple Music. Soyou can say, Hey, I love that
song. Click Well, it goes rightinto your you know, and I don't
even have an Apple Music accountyet, but I'm liking stuff if I
ever opened up an account I'mgonna have Yeah, you know, so

(47:11):
they're helping to promote themusic and and everything so it's
it's it's a cool community.

I want cheaper and I don't work out but I also
got the I got the Stuart Smalleyapp. If you've got an app, where
you open up the Stuart Smalleyapp or you open it up and he
just

set like the shake weight. He looks at you look at
you, you say

you're good enough. You're smart enough. And
Gosh, darn it, people like you.
So open that up every day. Andthat's it. There's your pop. You
don't remember Stuart Smalley.
That's like an old SaturdayNight Live skit.

Unknown (47:49):
Oh,

no, no, no. Oh, well, we're

not here to pump you up. Yes.

Unknown (47:59):
This is the only shake Wait, I got

a lot of our gyms were closed down for COVID and
everything here and and so itkind of took its toll on a lot
of people. But then I startedthinking, well, we can do a lot
of stuff at home. My nephew havetwo nephews, actually three now
that have gone through WestPoint. And one of which is he
ended up going back as aninstructor for hanahan combat

(48:25):
and athletics or physicalfitness more or less. And part
one of the things that, intalking to my phone very
interesting was that he said,You know, one of the things we
want to get through to people isthat there's something you can
do anywhere. And so if you're inif you're confined to a military

(48:47):
place, you know, a very smallplace, you can still get in the
right kind of exercises to havecardio, you can still get in the
right kind of exercises to belimber and flexible, and all
that kind of stuff. And you'rejust doing things like squats, I
mean, just taking your cameraand doing actual squats during
the day, do 10 or 10 or so at atime and do three sets and then

(49:12):
in the afternoon, do it again.
But I mean, think about all thedifferent positions that we get
into and some of them arebizarre. Okay, we're
photographing, right? Yeah, doit, do it for do it. When you're
not photographing, too and holdthat position a little bit. So
that when we get there, we'renot shaking. It's it's not just
the health of us, that's forbetter image that we're creating

(49:34):
as well.

I used to wonder on day after what and why
am I like my legs hurt and like,you know, of course I was on my
feet all day, but it's like whatthe heck and I started to pay
attention to some of the stuff Ido and instead of squatting, I
would like spread my legs likeway out and then do like almost
like a ninja kind of thing. I'mlike, I'm not that flexible. But
I would find I would just bedoing that and just kind of

(49:59):
naturally During the during thewedding day and during the
shooting, and Michael No wonderI heard

there's john Claude Van Damme

Unknown (50:12):
pose john Claude Van Damme and

I just had I just had it Speaking of which, you
know, I'm not I'm really not thetallest person in the world. And
so I'm on my tiptoes a lot tojust to see what you know, to
get the position I want to apoint where I damaged my foot so
much. I had a nerve taken outlast November. And it's been two

(50:38):
years. Yeah, that's what theysaid. It's like a dancers.
Injury for a ballet injury forbeing on your, you know, from
staining your toes so damn muchand I'm like, really? It took me
10 years to figure out thatthat's what it was, but it
actually

screwed up a nerve so much. So weddings truly did
get on your last nerve thing

they did, or they took your last nerve.

Or your first or last

nerve or one of them

at least one level. Bottom line what we're
saying is wedding sucks. Stopdoing wait.

If I had to do at least get paid for it, yeah,

it shots are awesome. I just did some just
did some actress headshots. AndI don't think I heard a dang
thing and got paid. And got somereally nice shots.

If you're if you're if you're middle aged to
drink a lot, and eat cheesecurds, weddings are not your
your birthday, Maddie for dayswhat we're saying from them from
three middle aged guys. Yeah.
Tips. health tips are threemiddle aged guys.

You can get through anything. That's the other thing
I want to tell you. I hope I getacross everybody is that you can
do anything for a certain amountof time. And a day, whether it's
a wedding or a senior or familyor something, you can suck it
up. I mean, get pull up your bigboy pants or big girl pants and
just get it done. A gentlemandoes a lot of things for you. I

(52:07):
mean, when you guys were up forour spring break two years ago,
whatever year and a half go nowwhatever that and I remember I
was walking around like Cashmansomething just doesn't feel
right. My neck is hurt andeverything and and come to find
out it got worse and worse andand ruptured a disc in my neck

(52:27):
and had to have surgery on it.
And that was on was that Monday,Sunday, I was on a flight to
Texas go to teach a class. Allright. Remember, you can suck
things up. You'd be surprisedwhat your body can do if you
just put your mind to it. Right?
And just you know, this

doesn't mean it's gonna be good. It's not
gonna be fun.

No, but you get over it.

Yeah. But you're a professional and you
get it done.

Yeah. Or like we mentioned before, try and take a
little bit better care ofyourself of yourself. Yeah, so
things don't happen. But we wedon't have control stuff. Yeah,
I mean, there's things we can'tcontrol. But you know, and even
Okay, I'm gonna throw this outthere with that, you know, with
the whole COVID thing andeverything. I think that no one
is really talking about is justhealth in general. And just, you

(53:22):
know, there's so much stuffprocessed foods and different
things that you know that thatdelicious. Yeah, they're
delicious. They're inexpensive.
They're really

easy to date have our Oreos processed food Is
that considered? No, no, no,

that's that's one of the five food groups for
Oreos. Yeah, Oreos, you know,you know, and, you know, and I
and this is not comingnecessarily from me. Now. It's
coming more from my wife who isyou know, very healthy. And you
guys saw before we jumped out Iwas eating ice cream sandwich.
And that's because she's gonetonight. Yeah, it was gone. She

(54:00):
was gone. Yeah, well, so. Soyeah, hopefully she doesn't
listen to this episode, but sheactually did buy them for me.
But um, you know, she's like, aslong as you don't eat them every
night, you know? And that wasmoderation attire

that was supposed to get you through the whole
year dude the whole year rightright.

So yeah, so for us it kind of funny it's I know
like I lost weight during thewhole stay at home COVID thing
because because we were livingtogether and there was no
sneaking snacks I mean, therewas a lot in there was a little
fast food breaks there was nolittle run into the store and
getting Pringles and Dr. Pepperlike we I I had a heat eat Yeah,

(54:41):
there was no Starbucks Starbuckswas closed. I was working out at
the peloton like yeah, sincesince everything opened back up.
I've gained a little bit. But soso yes, this is more coming from
her. But yeah, the healthier youare the healthier body is the
more you can fight in frontfactions, you know, I'm not
saying you're going to be immuneto COVID. You know, but it does

(55:06):
help. You know, I believestrongly in that and it is
tough. Like, the best thing youcan do is shop in the the
outside perimeter of a grocerystore. And that's the most
expensive food you're gonna, youknow, an organic food, it's
expensive farmers markets, it'sexpensive. We buy that stuff,
it's, it costs a lot of money.
Sure. But how much is healthcare costs, you know, later on

(55:30):
more as as well. And that's whatit's, it's, it's a hard, it's
tough. No one wants to do it. Idon't like to do it. But it does
help. And I, you know, sosomeday I'll be or I'll live
longer because of what she'shelping me through right now.

Well, along with that, and this is this,
we're going to get into thewhole PSA part here. You know,
when you hit 50, get yourcolonoscopy. And guys salute
guys and ladies, because we justlost a good friend a month and a
half ago, who she kept puttingit off, putting it off. Got

(56:10):
colon cancer spread through thebody and took her early. So
about two years younger than me.
Yeah, wow. No,

yeah, just go get your get your checkup done.
Nobody likes it.

No, I mean, I just I put it off. I mean, I did
the waited a couple years beforeI am getting going in for mine.
But, you know, thankfully,everything was good. I finally
went to Oh, this is one of thethings that precipitated this
whole concept for today was Ifinally went to a chiropractor
today for the first time of mylife because I've been having
some lower back issues. Andwe've got a neighbor who is a

(56:47):
chiropractor, which, you know,makes it easy because I saw I go
go go to see Dr. Amy. First timeever been to a chiropractor, by
the way. Okay. Are you supposedto get completely naked for a
chiropractor?

I knew it was coming. Yes, the answer is yes.
Yes. Okay. Okay. So, you'resupposed to go in from your
vehicle. You're not you. Sosabbaticals in that's,

that's what I was gonna say. It's not so much
getting naked. It's probably ifyou walk it over there naked was
the awkward part.

Unknown (57:18):
Once you have your mask on

your mask, the right thing? Well,

yes. Anyway.
Um, so, um, you know, I'm layingface down, and she's like, oh,
you're one leg shorter than theother. It's like, What are
those? You think I'd be walkingin circles all the time. But
anyway, yeah. So he's likechecking things out. It's like,
Well, yeah, he gets problemshere. And she's like, and she's
going, do you have asthma whenyou were younger? I'm like,
well, you're like frickinpsychic here is like, yeah, it

(57:47):
has been when I was a kid. It'slike, Oh, yeah. Because the way
your spine is curving here, it'susually indicative of people who
have trouble breathing, and I'mlike, this is freaking me out.
But anyway, she's talking along.
And she's like, Okay, I'm gonnamake an adjustment. So this is
the first adjustment I'm gonnamake, it's gonna be a big one.
And I just want you to breathedeep and let it out and you're

(58:09):
going to hear a pop and you'regonna feel some pressure. I'm
like, okay, whatever. So I takea deep breath and on and she
just jams in the middle of myback. It's like, coat rack. And
it felt like yeah, that'sexactly what I said. I said,
What?

(58:30):
We both we both started laughingher ass off. It was just like, I
was not expecting that. But I'mback. I felt taller. I got off
the table. I felt taller. Butright now, where she cracked me
I'm feeling right now. There's acouple days Yeah,

Unknown (58:49):
yeah, yeah.

She told me that way. Oh, yeah, I've got multiple

appointments I've got Yeah,

you're a mess. I'm a lot of problems get fixed like
little

Unknown (59:00):
micro skygo gets fixed.
I got a lot of problems. So whathappens

next time I'll close to you know the same
thing. Are you are you supposedto get completely naked for your
dentist? Um, just

know that one you not? No, absolutely. No.

Okay. Duly noted.

But I've woken up naked if
my shirts buttoned differently

if you're too damn sexy, they're Damn.

Unknown (59:42):
Oh, I don't even have a fat lip.

I think that's gonna count as a parting shot.

It's like a mic drop.

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Yes. So actually

Carl Caylor (01:00:27):
good, black chocolatey, stout, again, beer
that you can eat with a fork. Ilike it.

The monks would love that.

See how we just like circle around in this
stuff. We all right back,

bring it back in. Because I have one leg
that's longer than the other.
Anyway. So on that note, cheersto you guys.

Cheers. Cheers.
Last call.

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