What if AI agents aren’t just tools... but coworkers?
In this episode of Pitch, Build, Scale, we sit down with Tatyana Mamut, CEO of Wayfound.ai, to explore why the future of work isn’t about clamping down on AI, but learning to manage it with the same dignity, respect, and feedback we give humans.
Tatyana shares her journey from anthropology to Amazon, Salesforce, IDEO, and now Wayfound, where she’s building the world’s first AI supervisor platform: a manager for AI agents that ensures compliance, trust, and performance across the enterprise.
We dig into:
- Why cultural change - not technology - is the biggest barrier to AI adoption
- How ethnography helps predict what’s next in tech
- Why managing AI agents like employees could define the next era of business
- What a “multi-sapiens” future looks like when humans and AIs collaborate
- Where she sees AGI vs. ASI heading, and why supervision matters more than guardrails
👉 If you’re a SaaS founder, dev shop leader, or tech executive, this episode will shift how you think about AI, jobs, and organizational design.
Chapters
00:00 Intro: Why We Need to Rethink AI Agents
02:11 Tatyana’s Unconventional Path into Tech
06:57 Anthropology Meets Product Management
09:08 Founding Wayfound.ai: Supervising AI Agents
13:57 Guardrails vs. Guidelines: Building Trust in AI
17:23 Early Adoption in Finance, SaaS, and Services
24:30 Reorganizing Companies Around Human Skills
30:49 The AGI vs. ASI Debate
37:16 Building Institutions for a Multi-Sapiens Future
40:19 Why Culture Change is the Real Challenge
43:16 First Steps for Leaders Exploring AI Agents
Resources
🌐 Wayfound.ai: https://www.wayfound.ai
🔗 Connect with Tatyana: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tmamut
🚀 Big North Marketing: https://www.bignorthmarketing.com
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