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September 16, 2025 43 mins
Real estate touches all of us, yet the system doesn’t always work in our favor. Agents lose significant portions of their commissions, buyers and sellers face hidden costs, and too often, trust feels like it’s missing. As longtime real estate professionals, Chad Link and Rob Brower have witnessed these challenges firsthand, especially the inefficiencies and hidden costs imposed by major tech platforms. In this episode of Pivoting to Web3, I sit down with Chad and Rob, the co-founders of Swyvvl, to explore how they’re reimagining the real estate experience and bringing fairness and transparency back to the industry. We cover: Why traditional referral models create inefficiencies How Swyvvl removes middlemen and lowers costs The role of AI in preventing fraud and protecting clients What it takes to rebuild trust in such a large industry Did you know the average buyer has no idea how much Big Tech is pocketing from every home sale? That money could be YOURS. Discover how Swyvvl is handing power and profits back to buyers, sellers, and agents with a Web3-first platform that’s finally on your side. Ready to see just how much the rules are changing? Chapters: ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome and introductions 01:00 – Chad and Rob’s backgrounds 03:15 – The problem with referral fees 05:11 – The story behind Swyvvl 07:35 – How the platform works 10:34 – Data security and bidding 12:06 – What MLS/IDX means 16:00 – Traditional vs Swyvvl explained 24:00 – AI and fraud prevention 27:30 – Cost savings for buyers and agents 32:45 – Rethinking the referral model 40:00 – Building trust and adoption 47:20 – Roadmap and expansion 59:00 – Final reflections
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