February 2, 2025 • 67 mins
Julie Goodwin is back in the Podvan for a hilarious and heartfelt chat packed with memorable moments! 🎙️
We cover:
• 🕒 Deadlines and ADHD – How they shape our world and lead to hilarious stories.
• 🎵 Spotify Surprises – What artist surprisingly topped Rabbit’s 2024 Wrapped?
• 🥩 The Rissole Solution – How one moment at the footy turned into a lifelong joke.
• 😂 Unfinished Stories – From toys to roof racks, Rabbit and Julie revisit the chaos of live radio.
This episode is packed with laughs, nostalgia, and some unexpectedly deep moments. Perfect for anyone who loves a good laugh or needs to hear, “Everything’s fine!” 🔥
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(01:32):
Podcast G'day I'm Rabbit. I record this podcast inside a
cute little retro caravan from 1967 that I tore around all over
the place. My three favorite words that you
could say to me. The three most beautiful words
that you could say to me are running.
Light, yeah. I'll work to whatever deadline
gets given to me and I will be there or thereabouts with that
(01:56):
deadline. It's therefore not a deadline.
Yeah, mortally wounded line. It's not looking good for this
line we're. Not no.
It's this poor line. I'm about to start taking on
staff Julian, and I'm going to allow them for roundabout
starts. Let's see how long that lasts.
For a job that just pays me to be me, 'cause you've got part.
(02:20):
Of it, right, You could be you. I've got a business plan.
I'll just be there. I'll just be me.
Hang on to the coattail girl andride the waves.
Ride the waves, alright? Then here we go.
It's the podcast with Rabbit. It was a hole in the wall over
(02:41):
there. I just put a sticker over it.
Oh my God. It's fine, everything's fine.
Everything's. I love that little.
What is it a meme, a gift or something?
It's fine. Everything's fine.
Everything's on fire. I think that's what it is, isn't
it? It's there's a fire behind.
Yeah, everything's. No, it's just like a dog sitting
(03:04):
at a table with a hat on. That's right, everything's fine.
That's great. I saw a meme that made me laugh
last night, which is it's one ofthose old, I follow this.
It's like old art memes. And it's all these people.
It's it's over a seance and it'sall these people sitting around
like a Ouija board. And it's the meme is Zoom
(03:26):
meetings are are just modern seances.
Wait, I think somebody wants to join us.
Mary, is that you? Can you hear us?
We can hear you, Mary. Mary is trying to connect.
I think Mary's in the room. That is brilliant.
(03:50):
So funny. I was actually gonna put a thing
up online this morning, but man,I didn't have time and I knew
you'd be on time. It's actually really annoying
how on time you are. Sorry, are you aware of just how
annoying you are to people with your on timedness?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I may feel the
same about other people's like. Read the room, Julie.
(04:10):
It's what I've come to peace with recently is discovering
that it's an ADHD thing. OK, time poor.
Yeah, kind of you just. You always work well under a
deadline. Yeah, like, you should have seen
me charging around. That's why I'm sweating.
Still running around to be up here at.
I was aiming for 7:50. OK.
(04:31):
And you know, I made it for 8:00and then you turn up bang on.
Are you the greatest welcome. No, that's not what I want.
You're. Deadline that you work well
under. I've got you saved in my phone
as deadline. Dead something.
To me. I was thinking more like dead
shit or. Something dead to me.
(04:52):
Dead to me. Last name What's what's my
surname on your phone is Tome. Mm Hmm, that's what it is Tome.
Dead tome. Dead tome My three favorite
words that you could say to me. The three most beautiful words
that you could say to me are running light.
Yeah. I have no idea how much I would
love that. Oh, but you know what would
(05:14):
happen like if this became a thing where you're like, OK,
well, if I say 8:00, yeah, I'll just turn up at 10 past. 8:10 So
8:10 mine you did to me and now,yeah.
Oh, quarter past 20 past. Yeah, 20 past.
You know, I had friends like this once that were always late,
always late. They were late to their own
stuff. They'd go to their house and
(05:36):
they wouldn't be there because they were running late to get
back from whatever they're doing.
I get it, Like, and and literally could be an hour to
two hours late for dinner. It drove me up the wall.
Like, really? Yeah.
Chronically horribly. There wasn't one of the two that
kept them on time. You know, they didn't have that
going on. And so for Joe's christening, so
this is Joe. He's 29 now.
(05:57):
This is quite some time ago. Like, I hold on.
No. No, no, you certainly let it go.
We we told them an hour before the ceremony.
Oh, you gave him a fake time? We gave him a fake time and you
know what? She rang me from the freeway and
said and said, I know You said we have to because I said you
can't be late to this guy. Yeah, I know.
I'm so sorry everything went wrong blah blah blah blah blah
(06:19):
blah. Yeah.
What time are they going to be there?
They're gonna be there bang all the time.
You should have heard me, wouldn't you?
I know. So I'm like, where are you?
Where are you? Oh.
You gave it some. Where are you?
Where are you if you're running that well, We've only just hit
the start of the freeway and I'mlike, perfect.
Could have gone well. We'll hold everything then for
(06:43):
an hour. I think what we're taking.
From this is I'm a bit of a cow,but I'm not that much of A cow.
I've had people give me fake times and fake deadlines and
stuff, and I know it. Yeah, at the radio station, they
would win the and I'd find it out and I wouldn't even care.
Like, I I'd find out and go, yeah, I get it.
Yeah. The radio awards, when you've
(07:05):
got to have your entry in by a certain date and they're like.
Yeah, days before. We need weeks.
I had one deadline that was given to me that I found out it
was two weeks early. So it was like must be done by
this date. So that's just people
understanding that you work wellunder a deadline.
They just want to make sure the deadline is not the the
deadline. No, if you choose that moment to
(07:26):
not work well. Is your car a BYOD?
No. Bring your own drinks.
Bring your own deadline. On your own tender line.
What is it BYD? BYD build your dream is what it
stands. For Right, yeah, but and they
used to have that written acrossthe back of the car.
They did. And then they were.
Like, yeah, that's that's gonna turn me off buying it 'cause.
I believe the word is NAF. It's a bit NAF.
(07:49):
Well, I'm just happy to call it a BYD, but yeah, bring your
deadline. Yeah, bring your deadline.
Give GM AD, give me another deadline.
Give me another Jimmy, give me afake deadline.
I don't care. I'll work to whatever deadline
gets given to me and I will be there or thereabouts with that
deadline. That there it's therefore not a
(08:11):
deadline. Yeah, it's a, it's a mortally
wounded line. It's not looking good for this
line. We're not.
No, it's this poor line. Beep, beep, beep.
Say your goodbyes. I've been holding on to
something for a while. And a confession, OK, That I
(08:33):
need to share with you. God, and I I I keep seeing this
in my notes as a Yeah, that's right.
I gotta tell Julie about that. I haven't told anyone about this
because I've been waiting to share it with you, OK?
You know, there's just. Just so honoured.
There's just things that I I seeand I go, Oh my God, Julie's
gonna be quite amused by that. OK, so I'll save it for that.
(08:56):
You know when Spotify gives you your you're Wrapped at the end
of the year. Yes, Hi, Jay.
Oh, there's oh, hi, have fun. Good luck.
Have fun good. Luck.
Don't do what I wouldn't do. Do what he wouldn't do.
Yeah, that's it. So yeah, that's.
It opposite of him. Do the opposite.
Let's just keep shouting at him.So this is my now 20 year old
(09:17):
son who's heading off to his dayof work.
What's that? He's not in a mitre 10U.
We're gonna have to come back tothe Spotify Wrapped artist.
New job. Yeah, new job.
OK. First day, that's him hidden
offer his first day at his new job.
So I put up a thing in our Facebook group, the broadband
Facebook group saying that he'd gotten all qualified for to be a
(09:40):
support worker. Yeah.
And the place that he did all his qualifications every they've
just given him nothing. He didn't get a simple shift.
And so I said to him, what do you I could put it up in the
group. What?
Watch this lot go out, you know,And I expected him to be no, no,
no, no, I won't do it that way. Don't want to use use dad's
(10:03):
thing or whatever he went. Yeah, OK.
Oh, he's all he wants. Your connection.
Yeah, now he does, yeah. And so put it up there, a
million suggestions came throughand contacts and all those kind
of things. Yeah, one kept getting put
forward by a whole bunch of others and so, yeah, that he
went off by himself from that point.
Contacted her, went out, had themeeting.
(10:23):
He's done 3 days of training now.
Yeah, three full days of training and today's his first
day as a support worker. Wow, that's amazing.
So he's still at mite of 10 for now, Yep.
But yeah, he wanted to get into this this sort of stuff as well.
And while he's going to uni and.Fantastic, Yeah.
Oh, good on him. He's the type.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
(10:44):
You know, Yeah, he'll be lovely.Like I found out what he gets
paid for and I went I'm the type.
I'm the type. I'm also the type.
Yeah, OK. I've got restrictions.
Time for a start. I can be there or thereabouts
I'd have I'd have your. Support is coming all right.
(11:05):
What's your problem? What are you complaining about?
You've had it too good for too long.
I said thereabouts. That's what my roster would have
on it. 9:00 or there about start.
Nobody's roster says that That'sthat's the.
Thing I'm about to start taking on staff Julian, and I'm going
to allow them for roundabout starts.
(11:27):
Let's see how long that lasts. Let's see how long that.
I mean, I'm gonna forget who's rostered on for what anyway, so
it doesn't even doesn't really matter.
So yes, he's off for his first day of what he's told us some of
the sort of things that they, because they prepare them for
everything. And in those three full days of
training, yeah, oh, my goodness.They prepare them for every
(11:51):
scenario, really. Yeah.
And this one in particular, theydeal with quite the extreme end
of things. It's not the other end of
support work where I don't wannabe disrespectful to the
different ends of support work, but in OK if I were going for a
job. Like high high level care.
(12:12):
Yeah, please turn this around into nice words.
Yeah, because. Well, OK, so if I were going to
work there, I would go, OK, here's what I'm prepared to deal
with, right? I'm looking for ones that wanna
go bowling. Can we tell this except that
this is not your line of work? Yeah, I think we need to go any
further than I can't be on time.Depends.
Though doesn't is there. So there I couldn't work for
(12:34):
this company because they they deal quite heavily in that end
of the spectrum. I want a company that deals in
the taken bowling end of things.When you feel like it, yes.
OK, so that's just called being you.
What do you mean I need a job for?
That no, but I want to be paid to be me, Julie.
(12:54):
Well, this is what this whole thing is.
You're spot on. I have looked for a job that
just pays me to be me. You've got part of the right you
could be. You get paid.
What a flawed business model. A business plan I'll just.
(13:20):
I'll just be me. Why are people not paying me for
this? You're gonna find people who
want. You don't understand.
I'll take your bowling. Hey, you know what we need to do
an episode on soon. We'll call it the The Finishers
this episode. That'll be the title of it.
Don't pull faces at me. It's.
(13:41):
Bob disording. That's another kind of job.
That I don't, I don't listen, Julie, this.
I've got my set of conditions, things I will do.
How much is it paying? It's certainly at the extreme
end, so yeah. Oh, no, yeah, no, I'm, yeah, I'm
(14:01):
at the very low needs end of theof the care spectrum.
You can. You can barely care for
yourself. But why am I not paying myself?
I should be paying myself and registering you.
Have a lot? You're at the high need.
End of the science. I didn't even realise.
Yeah. So the Finishers expert episode
(14:23):
will be you finishing all of your stories that you have
started. Oh.
There is not time for that. Because.
How many years are we going? Back though, No, no, no, no out.
Of the radio. No, no.
'Cause let me tell you, that's astory.
No. For like 4 times an hour.
Let me start talking about something and then go somewhere
(14:43):
else. Yeah.
And then someone comes up to me years later and goes, hey, I
never did find out why Julie didthe.
Oh, whatever. And I'm like Oh well, read the
book. Pretty sure it's in the first
half because I haven't heard theend either.
Because every time we start talking, usually like we're not
talking about. The toys, we're not talking
(15:04):
about the toys. That was a classic toys.
I tell people about that and when when I'm talking about how
we used to run the show. Run.
Show the show. It was just, I would say about
how, you know, some shows can bevery, we're talking about
breakfast radio shows, Some can be very structured and this is
(15:24):
the break, this is the break, this is the break.
And when we're quite fluid, could be halfway through a
break. Whiteboard when we started, but
it didn't last very long. No, it was pointless.
What are you writing on? They were just drawing, you
know, dicking balls on there theway we go.
I see what we're doing at 8:10. More ball talk, so whatever.
(15:46):
I mean, we've grown up now. We don't do that.
It's crack talk. Now get us a Jingle.
Crack talk. My God, I was working radio
station. There's a Jingle in South
Australia. I was working at a radio station
and you could during the show because things can change so
quickly now. Oh, OK, Actually, let's do a
(16:06):
let's do a break next on the 10 Biggest Toys for Christmas.
OK. Which is what that break was
supposed to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And quick. Julie, find out what they are.
Yeah, and then I buzzed through.32nd Commercial.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this was back before
computers. Julie had to write a letter away
to the toy department and. I and count up the answer is on
an Abacus. And then write down a note like
(16:29):
chiseling into a. Tablet.
Yeah, it was quite a total assuming.
Process. Put it on the tablet.
Julie, hang on. And because these things were
yes, so so wouldn't change it, Iwould buzz through, push a
button on the desk, which would buzz through to the production
(16:50):
studio down the hall where there's someone just as a dude
just sitting there twiddling histhumbs with nothing better to
do. Well, that's what he was doing.
And waiting to. Hear.
From you waiting to hear from meand make something.
The voice from God. On like AI mean it's not what I
said but yeah on like a 4 minutedeadline we've got a song on now
Miley Cyrus is on yeah and by the end of the song hey mate can
(17:11):
you make us an intro for have a result Tuesday Now that's an
exact example that I said through to Eddie by once he's
down in the production studio down the hall and this amused me
so much so. We he's probably up there.
Swear he blown at you. Turns out he was.
Yeah, so we have. A Rissol we're.
(17:32):
Having a laugh in the studio about, I think because we were
talking about another day when we had, I just asked him for a
totally random thing anyway, no worries.
And then like 3 minutes later, alright mate, it's in the
system. You go to the computer and type
in whatever it is he called it and Yep, there it is.
There's a Jingle all about whatever it is.
Yeah. And we're having a laugh in the
(17:53):
studio during the show about it.And I went because he'll just
make up anything that you ask him to.
I said, what's this? Hey, can we quickly, can you
knock up an intro for have a resol Tuesday?
Yeah, What is it? Have a resol Tuesday.
All right. And then like 3 minutes, like,
so we're giggling to ourselves in there like a few minutes
(18:14):
later. All right, mate, in the system,
like no way. So we open it up on the computer
and then have a result Tuesday and then a music fair.
We laughed ourselves so stupid. And then there was a dilemma of
do we tell him? And what's gonna You've just
(18:35):
done it on air. Yeah, yeah.
And he did. And he didn't find it as funny
as. This poor guy, he's riding the
ragged edge of disaster that morning.
It's like I totally can't take this pressure anymore.
Yeah, he has. A real have a what?
And where have a result Tuesday came from was we were at I've.
(18:55):
Got an idea where it came from? What, Just out of the deep dark
crevasse? No, no, it actually came from a
the Tuesday thing did. But they have a result that was
at the footy. I can't even remember what the
game was. Oh yes, it was, it was a game.
I was there with my mum and dad,I think, and there were these
people sitting in front of us. And, you know, some people can
(19:17):
get really worked up at the footy, at the ref.
Oh, yeah. And get.
Yeah, getting all fired up. Says there's a couple in front
of us. And she's brought along all
these snacks and things in her bag.
She's getting them all out. And her husband is just losing
it over a ref's call. You see where the story's going.
And then she just gets. Invited the ref to.
(19:37):
Oh my God, no. Oh the line, she says to him.
Oh well, never, ever. This will stay in my mind
forever. She opens up a Tupperware
container and goes, don't worry about it darl.
Have a result. Don't worry about it doll, have
a wristle and like that. Just solution.
(19:59):
To everything. And then they packed up their
lunch and went back to the castle.
Don't worry about it, Darl. Did he say What do you call this
you? Have a ristle ristles ristles
just solve everything like. Oh I I completely agree.
And he calmed down and he just chewed on it.
He put a little bit of sauce on top there and sat there in his
(20:22):
ristle. And we died in the row behind
them. Just go.
Don't worry about it. And that became a saying quite
often from that point on. Anyone's worked up.
Hey, don't worry about it, darl.Have a Ristle.
So then that's we then became years later.
Hey can we have an opener for have a Russell Tuesday?
Ohh. My God, did that Paul go?
(20:44):
Did he resign shortly after? No, he's still there.
Did you offer him a result? That's what I should have said
to don't. Worry about it, Ed.
Don't worry about Ed have a result.
Oh, so funny. It's gold.
But yeah, because the radio showto be so fluid and jump from one
thing to the other. Yep.
There was a time where you and Iwere about to do that break on
(21:06):
air with the top 10 toys for Christmas.
Yeah. I was ready, man.
Yeah, I was so prepared. I had pictures.
I had anecdotes. I had memories.
Yeah. When a similar thing was the top
toy when I was a kid. Yeah, you were ready.
I was so ready. And then sometimes I didn't have
enough time to convey a full sentence and explanation no of
(21:28):
what's going on in my brain. Oh.
There's never time for that. How much time you got?
It's only a 3. It's a 3 hour show, we can't go
for everything going on in your head.
No. So I, we, we put our headphones
on already and that's the we're on now.
Now there's only like 5 seconds until.
Song is dying. The the last beat you're about
(21:50):
to come in with your just over the dying.
Well, my big radio voicing code,Yeah, it's 8:10.
Few showers today on top of 26°.Before that.
What? Are the toys.
So I, I, I got my head. I quickly ripped them off my
head. Julie looks at me.
She rips her headphones off It 'cause it's, yeah, it's what we
do. We're like a synchronized diving
(22:12):
team, Yeah. Or something, you're ripping
headphones off. I'm ripping headphones off and.
She looks at me. Oh, it's wide open and I go,
we're not doing the toys. Headphones back on and then.
And I just. It's 8:10.
I don't know. What we're doing, but apparently
we're not doing the toys and Julie brought it up for years
later she just yell at me we're not doing the toys.
(22:36):
But it correctly conveyed the message succinctly of what was
going on in my head. Well, kind of.
I'm heading in a direction that you know nothing about.
Hang on to the coattail girl andride the waves.
Ride the waves. Pretty much sums up the show.
It does. Hold on tight.
(22:58):
Let's see where we're going. Yeah.
Not darling at all. Coming up soon on an episode
(24:08):
that we will be doing called TheFinishes or something and Julie
will tell us the top 10 toys from 2010.
Nah, not that. What would that be, 2000?
17. 17. Went from 16171819.
Were the four years we worked together OK?
Yeah, maybe. One of those ones somewhere in
(24:29):
there. I'll look.
Up all of them and be ready it. Wouldn't have been the first
year because if I'd been bleached, my foot's itchy.
I got bitten by a hoppy Joe the other day.
What's? A hoppy Joe you.
Haven't seen that. Do you know them that that was
like, it sounded like you were walking into a joke that I'd set
up just then, but there was no punch lines.
(24:50):
It's like you you went for it fully but then.
You set him up, I knock him down.
I think that's how it works. I did it to you once on air and
I've got video of it not on air,off air.
I've got video of this. And it's so funny when I, I said
something and you went, what's that?
And and I was like, I'm like, hang on, we're walking into a
little bit of a joke here. And so then I went, it's like
(25:10):
when they had the Marder and youlike the what?
And I'm like the Marder and you go the murder and you go, what's
the matter? And I go, nothing, what's the
matter with you? And I was so proud.
Pretty sure it's from the Lion Kings.
Oh, really? Yeah, that's a murder.
What's a murder? Nothing.
What's a murder with you? God, well, I could see why
(25:32):
you're proud. It's one of your better jokes.
And if it's not from The Lion King, then yeah, it's mine.
But I'm pretty sure, pretty sureit's something like that.
Are you ever going to finish thefinishes story?
I'll get there, OK. Why are you rushing me?
Because I want to get back to the Spotify story.
Yeah, but I got bitten by Hoppy Joe the other day.
Oh yeah. And they when you went, what's a
(25:53):
hoppy, Joe? I was like, what's the punch
line here? I don't actually know.
That's right. There is no joke.
There's not always a joke. Well, isn't it?
I don't know, I'm trying to think of one, but they're all
just terrible. A hoppy Joe because you've got a
son named Joseph before really trying not to swear.
(26:16):
Here's comes Floyd Doggo from down the road.
He's pretty cute. Floyd with his floppy ears.
A hoppy Joe is it's a big orangeAnt and they're aggressive and
they hop around. They they bounce.
They bounce like a out of control Pogo stick kind of
thing. They just bam, bam.
(26:36):
And yeah, if they itch you, man,oh, that pain.
And then you itch for about fourdays.
Yeah, I. Think I've got a green Ant?
Yeah, well, I shouldn't. Oh yeah.
And I didn't see it. It punctured a hole in my arm
and I've still got a lump there.Well, I mean, you didn't see it.
So that's the thing. I've been bitten three Times Now
by a hobby Joe, and each time they've still been attached to
me. And I'm glad because this one,
(26:58):
it took me like 3 wax at them toget them off my foot.
Oh, but at least then I know what it is.
Yeah, because otherwise I'd think it's like.
A cobra. The funnel.
Web or so yeah, it's something that's going to kill me
obviously, because the pain man,but not hurt yeah.
I don't know about Hoppy Joe's. I think green ants hurt.
Yeah, and they leave a mark for days.
(27:19):
The brutal man comes out and andreally itchy Australia.
I'm off to New Zealand tomorrow.Oh, nothing there kills you.
Thank you. I said that to have you.
Listened to the people do, but the animals don't.
Have you heard Riverbank Frank'sepisode yet?
No Oh, sorry's beautiful poem, but.
Poem is incredible. Saving that for when I've got
(27:40):
some just. Poems now being viewed a few
100,000 times. Amazing, isn't it?
I've never had anything more shared, just like being shared
around the isn't it? Oh, what a beautiful poem.
I'm so glad that that's being shared around.
And someone even said one of thegreatest comments on there was
someone turned this into a children's book now.
(28:01):
Yeah. And I was like, oh, it.
It totally is. Yeah.
That is. And even the way he does it.
I'm Riverbank, Frank. I live by the river.
Yeah. Here's a message I'd like to
deliver. Each one of those is a page, and
you can see the picture. Yeah.
Yeah. Of him sitting by the river.
Some beautiful indigenous art inthere.
Yeah, and just the story. Yeah.
(28:23):
Yeah. I'm Weradjuri Gamilaroi.
What's your story? Yeah, I love that there in that
episode, Riverbank, Frank, I, I,I was telling him that, you
know, there's nothing in New Zealand can kill you.
He I said to him, if you've got air conditioning and he goes,
yeah, in his caravan down by theriver, he goes, yeah, if it's
hot, I drag my mattress outside,That's OK.
(28:45):
And he goes, I've got a cot there, so I'm up off the ground,
get away from the brown snakes. And I was like, this is the
thing, mate. And I said in New Zealand
nothing can kill you. He goes, oh, there's one thing
you gotta watch out for that allblack forward pack.
Talking your language. Yeah, I know.
And I was like, well, we don't have to watch out for it, you
do. So tomorrow I go to tomorrow as
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we record this. And when this comes out, maybe
I'm already there, maybe I'm already back going to New
Zealand with my daughter. It's a daddy daughter trip.
Yeah. Do you know about this?
About what? I mean, Yeah, you've told me.
OK. So for my birthday, my wife got
me. She spared no expense.
She got me two $12.00 tickets tothe footy because there's a big
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birthday. You could.
You should. I mean rule of thumb, you should
at least spend a dollar per year.
Yeah, Nope. She's not even close.
Not even halfway there. This game of rugby is between
The Crusaders and the Blues and the Super Rugby team that won
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the comp last year, and it's being played on.
I thought it was a farmer's paddock.
It's not quite. Yeah, that's one of the other
games that they do in the preseason trials.
Yeah, this one is like a club rugby thing.
So I'm picturing. I've looked up the club, the
grounds, yeah and it looks like like the Orimba rugby grounds
cause and everyone just goes andstands on the sidelines nice and
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watches All Blacks running around playing again.
That's amazing. It's really cool.
So it's like so T and I, we watch all The Crusaders and All
Blacks games together over here every weekend in the rugby
season. So we're going over just the two
of us. Oh.
That's so amazing. Got ourselves in Airbnb and
we're just over for like 4 days I think in Christchurch and.
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Beautiful. I'm so looking forward to just,
you know, she's nearly 15. Yeah.
And for the two of us to spend that.
Time, one-on-one time, yeah, really special.
I was actually talking about NewZealand last night so I was up
at the detention centre. Oh, yeah, the boys and we cooked
a beautiful big dinner and we'reall sitting down, which is, it's
the best part of the whole thingis where we all sit down at the
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end and just enjoy what everybody's cooked.
And they were saying, oh, well, there was a lot of leftovers
yesterday. And because I, we cooked far too
much food and they said, oh, youcan take it to brotherhood
tomorrow. And I'm like, oh, what's
brotherhood? What?
Was I going to say? They said, well, different
groups come in and teach us about all different cultures.
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And, and they started talking about some of the different
cultural groups that had come inand talk taught them all about
their, their, you know, their culture and their heritage and
all that sort of stuff. And it's sort of so for every
culture that comes in, there's going to be a kid or two that
really relates because it's their culture and all the others
are learning about their culture.
And they started talking about the, the, the Maori boys coming
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quite a lot. Oh yeah.
And, and do that culture and, and this this boy, and he wasn't
a Maori. He was saying that they, they
did the hacker one time and he starts telling me about it.
And he goes and they just go, doyou want to see a hacker?
I'm like, well, I yeah. And so he said, and they started
doing it. And then all these other like
the kids that that knew this onewere all standing up throughout
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the room. And, and this, this teenage boy
in this this centre, he, he was talking about it.
And he says, I've got goosebumpseven thinking about it.
And it moved him. It really moved him.
And I just thought what what value there is in the idea of,
just like with Riverbank, Frank sitting down and being open to.
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Yeah. What somebody else's heritage
is, you know, and not going right.
It's not how I do it. So I don't like it, but just
going well, we've, we've got this ability to be moved by how
other people, you know, celebrate, challenge, all of
those things. And, and I, I just loved that I
I. Loved it in that.
That hacker is so powerful. Oh, and it's not just because
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there's so many different hackers that there are and that,
and in that episode, Riverbank, Frank was talking about a
funeral that he went to a maid of his who he didn't know had
any connection to these, these Kiwis.
He didn't know who all these people were at this thing.
But then as everyone was walkingaway from the gravesite, they
saw all these music was all lining up and they launched into
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a haka and it was just. And then afterwards they just
quietly just walked away. A spontaneous haka is just spine
tingling is beautiful. It is really moving and I'll
tell you who gets quite emotional about it is Mick.
Really. Quite a, quite a funny story
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where he had said that to the boys.
You know, he he tears up whenever he sees it.
And it's it's not our country, it's not our thing, but it's
still powerful stuff. And and we've got, we've got
Harker envy. Like, yeah, anyone who denies
that is probably telling lies. But Mick gets quite emotional,
quite choked up about it. So a few years ago, it's about 8
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years ago or so. So the boys were growing up, but
we went on a family cruise and it was just a fun cruise.
We went to Vanuatu and it was just like 7 nights together and
we had an absolute ball on board.
The same cruise, there were a couple of 100 people from a
Maori family there for a wedding.
Oh wow. And it happened to be that there
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was some of those World Cup games going on, on the telly.
Amazing. So Paddy, who is just the most
open hearted, friendly lad you'll ever meet, he just
befriended these guys, just befriended them.
And so we hardly saw him becausehe was hanging out with his
family and all these gigantic, you know, tattooed blokes.
(34:30):
Yeah, watching the 40 having a ball.
So anyway, they're seeing it, and they've joined in the hacker
one night. And, like, Paddy's just, like,
all for it and that. And then he tells of his family,
all these big men. My dad cries when the hacker
happens. Awesome.
(34:51):
So big men's wondering why all these blokes coming up going.
Oh good day mate, they wanted tomeet the bloke who cries at the
hacker. They would love it.
They would love the fact that hedoes, I reckon.
Well, when Patty told him that'swhat he done and makes just
like. Oh no.
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He walked around like this for the rest.
Of the it's so powerful yeah, itwouldn't surprise me if one
breaks out when we're at this game yeah.
On Friday so. It's not just a given that that
happens at a footy. No, no, you know, I don't know
enough about the the when and why.
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And I'll learn more about that. I'm learning more and more about
that culture as we go along today.
Or a Maori, the the Maori language being spoken in New
Zealand. It's happening so much more.
It's. Great.
There's a a beautiful acknowledgement of that culture.
Yeah, New Zealand, there's a much higher percentage of Maori
people there than that. There's only 3% of Australia is
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Indigenous. Right.
So I think that probably helps in that embracing in that
incorporating of, of their traditional culture, your
traditional culture in into everyday life.
I I look forward to a time wherewe, you know.
Yeah, someone commented on Frank's poem and she said this
is exactly how I feel and exactly what I want to say.
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But being white, I feel like I can't to be saying what Frank's
message was, which was just let's just guys, let's just all
yeah, we're all the same under the skin.
Let's just sit down and talk andyeah.
And. And actually embrace and
celebrate the differences instead of to shut them down.
Yeah. You know, there's, there's so
much beauty in, in the differentways people do things.
(36:38):
Yeah. So much to be learned in the
spaces, in the gaps in our knowledge.
Those gaps can be filled with fear and rejection, and I'm not
going to. Yeah, I don't want to look in
that direction. They can be filled.
Yeah, with love and understanding and enrichment.
Open yourself up to it. Open yourself up to it.
The very worst thing that can happen, yeah.
(37:01):
Is. That you learn something.
Yeah, I I love that day I had with Frank.
We. So you've seen how much have I
not seen you since before Dubbo?Before that trip?
Oh, my God. Yeah.
So he was my last stop. Yeah.
On that trip because I'd recorded with everybody else and
everyone had said you gotta go find Frank and record with him.
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And then eventually I was like, actually live just by the river.
And they're like, yeah, you're gonna go down these dirt tracks.
And then someone sent me a didn't you?
Yeah. Yeah, I've got a great video.
Actually, I've got a few videos I could put them up soon of like
I actually recorded while going along these dirt tracks in my
BIG4 wheel drive, but with the little caravan on behind me.
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Wheel Drive. Doesn't have a problem with
those. It had no problem with it the.
1967 Caravan, however. Just straight up broke the the
A-frame on it. It's not a four wheel drive.
It doesn't even have no. Four wheels?
No, it's two solidly in two wheel drive and.
Two wheel, not so. Drive.
The next day I discovered that the A-frame was in AV shape.
(38:05):
It was just cracked right through it.
Oh my God. Shout out to Agrawal in Dubbo
again because those guys came tothe rescue.
But oh man, what that and that cost me $1000 to to fix the
A-frame. Is that all?
Exactly. Yeah, it could have easily been
many thousands. So stressed when I saw that I
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actually thought this could be the end of the pod van like I I
really did because the chassis is.
Oh yeah. Kind of important, yeah.
We're like our little 1956 caravan.
Mum and Dad have said to us, look, we understand that this
has a finite life. We we can't see the end of its
(38:48):
life yet, but the once the chassis goes, yeah, you know,
no. We could know what I'm about
1200 bucks. I, I actually with another
caravan, I got the whole chassisunderneath redone and it was
$500. Yeah, OK.
So this one I'm. So relieved I want to ask.
No, I was thinking it was going to be anywhere between I don't
want them hearing this and goingoh, what?
(39:09):
Hang on a SEC, shoot me through another invoice.
But I was prepared for. I said to sav on the drive there
to which during this conversation she said to me, I
need to get off the phone. You are stressing me out, right,
Because every bump I'm going over, it was 6 KS from the zoo
to Agrawal and I I could not have towed it any further.
I was scared it was just going to snap off.
(39:29):
Yeah, but I'm driving along and I said to a look, two things
from it. I'm probably gonna have to leave
it here, come home and come backin a couple of weeks and then
tow it home and it'll be somewhere between 15102 1/2
grand, probably somewhere in there even if I can even get it
done by these guys. And then so they said leave it
here and we'll get onto it tomorrow morning.
(39:50):
And then I'm at the library doing some editing the next
morning and, and I get this callfrom them going up, all done.
Come get it. It was like at 11:30.
Amazing. Turned up.
That's phenomenal. I honestly, I thought it's
either the end of the pod van oryou're gonna have to sell your
house and you're gonna have to live in here.
Yeah, which is the way it would have gone.
Well, obviously the it's not gonna be the end of the pod van
be the end of my family having aroof over their head.
(40:11):
Well. It's just a little roof.
It's just a smaller roof. And do you?
Reckon the four of you would go?A bunch of us in there, but I'll
tell you what that was. Well, it was all worth it to be
able to. Amazing.
You know, to riverbank Frank. So I love about these trips that
yeah, Oh my God, the things thatare happening.
But so I went down in there and it was my last track that I was
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going to go down. I'd been down all these
different ones. There's so many different forks
on this the. Bloody van snapped.
Dirt track. I had to do like 3 point turns
with the caravan on these dirt tracks, backing into the grass,
the scrub on either side and everything.
And Oh my God, yeah. And then eventually I'm driving
along and I see this caravan couple of 100 metres away.
(40:52):
Yeah, tucked away under some trees.
Oh my God, that's him. It's going to be in.
So then as I'm driving up, he's sitting by the fire.
He's got a fire gun. It's like 30 something degrees,
which he later explained to me because he was putting a cupper
on. Yeah, it has no electricity at
all. So he makes a fire, boils up the
Billy and then makes himself a cup of tea.
That'd be brilliant. Sits down there with Reg, his
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old cattle dog, and as I was pulling up there, he's getting
up, he's standing up. He tucks his shirt in and.
Yeah, company. Yeah, I've got company and I've
rolled up and I've gone over there.
Big smile on the face Good day, mate.
So talk about the 62nd elevator pitch.
Yeah. Of what you're doing.
I mean, I had. To nail it for that.
(41:33):
Had to be a lot quicker than that too.
I just basically went out and said said good day, said who I
was. And I do this podcast.
I go around and and record with people and capture stories, a
lot of people's stories. And so many people from in Dubbo
have been saying, oh, you got totalk to Riverbank Frank.
Yeah. He's like, I don't know why
you'd want to talk to me. And I was like, whenever I start
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chatting and then he just goes, he's still sitting down at the
stage and I'm understanding thatI'm thinking, I don't know if
this is going to happen. And then he goes, what's your,
what's your stance on the black fellas?
I'm like, oh good God. And I just went I don't have
one. Yeah.
(42:14):
Yeah, yeah. And he goes, yeah, OK.
And I went and then we got talking and I told him I was
from New Zealand and stuff. And he goes, OK, all right, Yep.
I don't know what what that did by saying by saying that.
So you you know, you're not an Australian, so there's maybe a
reason for you to not have a. Yeah, yeah, I was just, and as
we got talking about in the episode, I was, I just, I don't
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care what your skin colour is oranything.
We're all just people and for the sake of what I'm doing in
this thing, it's just people's stories and I love to hear them.
And there's different backgrounds and reasons for why
that's your story and stuff. And, and we hit it off and we
had a great chat. And then afterwards, you know,
he finished it with that poem, which I did not see that coming.
(42:59):
He just goes, I'll, I'll give you this one.
I gave the IT was a speech he did at some point, whatever, a
poem that he'd written. And then just off the top of his
head, he just sat there and did that.
And he finishes it, gives me a thumbs up, takes headphones off
and hops out. That's it.
Shakes my hand off. He goes, yeah.
And he went back to his cold cuppa and I jumped out and I
stayed with him there down by when he sat by the fire with him
and we had chats. He did more poems for me.
(43:21):
I was like, can you just do those up there?
Yeah. Here's another one.
He's got one called Bridges witha Bridge, and that was awesome.
Amazing. It was an amazing experience.
Yeah. And he's right.
He's right in the thing that he said in the episode, just about
if we just sat down and talked to each other.
Yeah. You find that we're not that
different. No.
And there are, there are differences, yes.
(43:41):
And be open to them. And but then deep down, we're
just people. Yeah, I saw.
I saw an installation in an art gallery once and it was a
painting by an indigenous artistand it was entitled When you See
Black, I see Red. And of course the expression to
see red means I get angry. Angry.
Yeah. And so I sort of felt
(44:03):
uncomfortable as I read the description of it.
But the description was if you cut us, we blee.
We're all yeah, OK, all got red blood.
Yeah, that's all it meant. And I'm like, Oh yeah, OK, same
message. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
We're. All the same underneath.
So yeah, there's Hoppy. Joe bit me and.
(44:24):
Your world is really broadening,isn't it?
Oh, yeah, Yeah. Oh. 100%.
The work you've done for the past decades has had you in a
studio, and this is just taking you places that you've you've
never been meeting all differentkinds of people.
Oh, oh, you don't know about this.
(44:45):
Oh, do you? No, I don't think you know about
this. In fact, I haven't even, I have
not spoken about this on the podcast.
I have not put it out there in the wider public, but I did put
it out there on into my Patreon group, right?
I spoke to them about it. I did a well.
I'm not in your Patreon group. It's only $5.00 a month Julie.
Surely you can. I would refuse your membership
(45:09):
if you tried to sign up to that.I want to give a quick shout out
(46:17):
to some supporters of the Pod van podcast like Jetstream
Graphics, the legends that take care of all of our printing, for
the merchandise, for the signageon the pod van, always doing
such an awesome job. King Kumba Mitre 10.
There's almost more of King Kumba Mitre 10 inside the Pod
van than there is inside King Kumba Mitre 10.
(46:38):
They're super helpful, super knowledgeable.
I can always go in there and getthe good stuff to keep the pod
van rolling on down the road. And they've been a big supporter
from before the pod van was the even a thing.
And of course, Gwendoline Bowling Club as well, if you're
looking for a place to catch up with some mates.
I've been saying lately a lot more people seem to be looking
for connection and community. Well, if you're looking for
(46:58):
something to do while you're catching up with friends, my
goodness. I mean, you've got the bowls,
you've got the barefoot bowls, you've got happy hours, you've
got darts competitions, you've got trivia on Thursday nights,
Fridays, there's live entertainment, you've got
Saturday sips and then you've got the Sunday pool competition.
Beautiful restaurant upstairs over Look in the lake as well.
Next time you're in the area, pop in and see my mates at the
(47:21):
Gondolin Bowling Club with Robbie.
I like to share extra bits and things in there with the Patreon
group. They're like financially
actually supporting this in backing it.
And I'm always trying to think of what extra bits that I can do
in there. So when something comes along
and it's a bit, I don't know, exclusive or something I'm not
putting out into the into the full world yet, I'll pop it in
(47:44):
there, in there. I said to them, and I couldn't.
It was hard to say it at first. I'm journaling every day now, so
I write at the start of every day.
Yeah. And what I wrote that day, I got
as far as a certain point, and then I couldn't even write it in
my journal. I had to pause.
And I was like, because as soon as I write this, then that's it.
(48:06):
It's out there. Yeah.
It's like when I talked about mymental health on air.
Yeah. I didn't do it for so long
because it was the biggest thingwas once it's out there, it's
out there, you can't take it back.
Then I'm that guy who has ring. That bell.
No. And So what?
I had written and paused. That was today's the day I can
finally say. And that was where I stopped.
(48:28):
And I'm like, can I don't know? And and I thought about it some
more and I went, yeah. And that's what I talked about
in that episode in the Patreon, was the fact that I paused at
that point and why I did. And the sentence is today's the
day that I can finally say. I'm grateful that I lost my job
in radio there. It.
(48:48):
Is yeah, yeah. And since that day, I don't
know, there was something I saw in something online that said
the sooner you can get to acceptance, the better.
With whatever it is, with whatever has happened, the
sooner you can get to acceptance, sooner you can just
keep moving forward and you don't have to think about that
thing. Look at your face.
(49:10):
I'm I'm really crying. Well, you remember what I said
to you when this was all going on 100%, yeah.
This could be the best thing that's ever happened to you, was
what you said. I was standing just out the back
there. I said I don't know if you're
ready to hear this. Yeah, you said I've got
something to say and I, I don't think you're ready to hear it.
(49:31):
And I said Nah, hit me. Only because it was you and I
knew it wasn't going to be hurtful or anything.
Yeah, no. And you said this could actually
be the best thing that's ever happened to you.
And I said at the time, yeah, I mean, I get that.
Yeah, no, I'm not there and it'll take me a while to get.
There and intellectualise it, but now you're feeling it.
Because I've been through it before.
I've been through this with other radio stations.
(49:53):
And we just pack up and move to another city.
I'll get another job in radio, pack up, move on.
And but we were not going to be moving on this time.
We wanted to stay where we were.Yeah.
And the other radio shows had just announced their radio
stations had announced their Brekie shows.
And so I knew I wasn't going to be on any of those in the
market. And it was that horrible
realization, and it wasn't just that brekkie show, it wasn't the
(50:15):
eight years that I'd been in that market.
It was could be the end of threedecades of radio and my identity
as a radio guy. Yeah, but you still have that
identity, you're still doing, you're still using all of those
skills and all that experience and, and the connections as well
as the community. Was when I realized that I'm not
(50:37):
just a radio guy, I'm a broadcaster.
I'm a content creator. Bit of a Dick.
Bit of a Dick. Yep, that.
Well, I mean, obviously you've read my LinkedIn.
They only let me put three things that one doesn't say.
Bit of it, says massive. Yeah, you that's.
(51:03):
Thank you. Thank.
You for this Dick? Now I can use it as a quote, so
on my Tinder profile is quotation marks.
Don't you put my name? That's a Dick Dash.
Julie Goodwin. I can bump the sticker.
I love how you can take this very emotional moment that you
(51:26):
were having just a second ago. No.
So that's it. It's done.
It's out there now. I Yeah, I've let it go.
Yeah. And yeah, it's a, it's a shift
in, yeah, in looking at it as opposed to a thing that happened
(51:46):
to me, that to a thing that has allowed me to now do what I do.
Yeah. And you know if I run.
To you? What happened for you?
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
And I genuinely, I think a big fear as well with it was with
saying was it was, I were. I always picture because this is
(52:09):
my ego. I picture radio stations
possibly in this market going, hmm, rabbit's still around, you
know, and that I could get a call because it happens, you see
it happen all the time. People that have been out of
radio a couple of years, Paddy, who's on Triple M here, he got
the boot from the Brekkie show. A few years later they called
him back, or it was a year or two, I don't know.
(52:29):
And now he's on the radio and doing.
I don't want to close the door on radio.
I want to stay open to it. Yeah, but yeah, this is what I
do. This is what I'm doing now.
I absolutely love it. I've got so many big plans for
this and already some of those things that I was dreaming of
(52:49):
are happening. There's a lot of exciting things
on the way. Exactly.
And everything, everything you do and every little step forward
is gains momentum. And so eventually, you know,
it'll be exponential. It happens for you.
You'll be able to choose your opportunities.
Yeah, it's. Now I'll take any you know
you've. Made it?
Well, you you know you've made it when you get to decide which
(53:12):
ones to knock back. Yeah, I look forward to that
day. But you know, you're spot on.
When you said it was, when you said about there, this has
opened up my world 100%. That Dubbo trip, my God, I got
four or five episodes. I think actually I got a thing
about six or seven of them, but there were there's a solid 4
episodes out of that that are mybest for.
(53:34):
Yeah, OK. Like from the 140 or so.
Thanks a lot. Like by a long shot.
There was a chance to backpedal.Instead, I leaned forward.
It's alright, I listen to the Mollycroft 1 and I get it.
(53:56):
Oh my goodness. She's.
She's. Incredible.
Young lady, you haven't heard that episode 139.
I know the number of that episode.
Yeah. Because I literally, I had
someone come up to me a couple days ago.
Yeah. And they saw the van.
I was parked outside Sorrento's Pizzeria in Empire Bay.
Yeah. Girl comes along and just what's
all this about? And so chatting to her about and
(54:17):
she said it's cool. I gave her a card.
And so if you scan the QR code, that'll take you straight to
Spotify. And and she asked what's what
would be a good episode for me to check out as the first time I
went 139 Molly Croft like, But then anyone from there I could
there's so many. I could just say I could go.
What are you up for? You know, shits and giggles.
(54:38):
Let me introduce you to Julie Goodwin.
Deep and meaningful and teary and emotional.
Let me introduce you to Julie Goodwin.
Fun games to play along in the car with the kids.
Julie Goodwin. Like, yeah.
Just stop digging, that's fine. I've done enough, surely my back
(55:01):
to the surface. Yeah, no, the some of these
story and this is the thing, I don't give me another 20
episodes. I won't I won't even remember
Molly Croft and Riverbank Frank.They'll be I'm constantly I've
said to someone I put it up on mine the other day.
Oh my God, this was like my favorite episode and someone
went every episode's your favorite.
(55:21):
I've. Said that quite a lot lately.
Not about any of mine, but. What are you talking about?
Can you tie them in a knot? Can you tie them in a bow?
That's a I need to know the episode number of that one
because when people go, I just need a good laugh.
That's the one I would say. There's a lot of laughter.
There is, there is. Yeah.
(55:41):
Is that the one with the weird voices?
What weird voices were you like?Oh, I put the effects on the
voices. No, that's a different one, I
think. I don't know, It's funny.
Those were early days. Those were very early days,
Like, yeah, I think you're putting the effects on because
nothing was working. It's really funny.
Whenever I get kids in the in the van and they put their
headphones on, oh, I can hear myself.
(56:02):
I hit the effect on there. I mean, they're talking like
this and they laugh themselves stupid.
Oh my God. Just like we did.
So you glance at your watch. Do you need to go?
Is it time? Well, one of us has got to keep
our eye on the time and it's notgoing to be huge.
I've put a giant clock above your head now so that I can be.
Yeah. I just don't know what time you
need to leave. Yeah, well, what time 930 zoom
seance. Oh, you've got ages.
(56:26):
Mary's in the room. We can hear you, Mary.
Can you hear us? I'm only getting parts of your
message. That's your face.
So Spotify gives you this thing and it's.
Excellent. You're top artist of 2024 and I
(56:50):
can now reveal that mine was. Jonas Brothers What?
That's what I said. That's.
Exactly what I said, oh wow. I was like, oh, everyone sharing
their top Spotify artist and I'mlike, you know, if it was that
(57:10):
or Nickelback, I'd be like, Oh my God.
And I love both of them. Oh my God, yeah, it's so.
Funny, I know. Yeah.
Then I've got the. So here's my top five.
Jonas Brothers were number one. Yeah #2 let's see if you can
pick any of them. Ever.
Don't be ridiculous, they wouldn't be in.
(57:32):
My top Jonas Brothers. I love Jonas brother the song
Waffle House Oh my God it's so cool.
Imagine Dragons. No, not in there.
Oh, quite surprisingly, Taylor Swift was my number two I'm.
Not that surprised really. You're a bit of a Swifty.
Yeah, she's pretty awesome. What a mixer then #3 Bon Jovi.
(57:53):
OK. Yeah, I can see.
That and #4 INXS. OK, I like INXS.
What a mix, eh? Yeah, and #5 dua Lipa.
Oh, what a. Mix man.
And then I look at them and go, yeah, yeah, I get it.
Yeah, I do listen to all of those.
Did you get yours? It's, I do YouTube and Paddy
showed me his Spotify and then II, I don't have Spotify, so I
(58:19):
thought it might be on YouTube. Yeah.
So have you got one? Yeah, do want they'll be.
It'll be here. It's just a case of whether I
can find it. Yeah, you.
How do you What do you search for?
Well, generally you do it aroundthe 1st of January, not
February. Your channel, your recap.
Is that it? Yeah.
Yeah, probably your. You had a whole cast of
(58:40):
characters, but only one could be the star.
Yeah. So you can imagine what I
thought when I read this. OK.
Carlos. Rafael Rivera.
What? That's what I said.
Who's that it's Who's that? What do you mean that's your?
Top artist for you. Let's find out.
(59:01):
You're in the top .3% of oh of, of Queen listeners.
Well, there you go. Oh, that makes sense.
Now let's hey you listen to a lot of Queens, your supporting
cast. Here we go.
Point in the tag. Ages.
Was the album. That's New Zealand Symphony
Orchestra with split ends. Yep, then Lady Gaga.
Yep, then Billy Joel. Oh, I like that.
(59:22):
And then it talks to me. Where's?
Carlos though you. Had main character.
He's number one. Oh yeah, main character energy.
Let's replay the plot of your year.
What? Innuendo by Queen.
The show must In April, you had the show must go on and repeat.
It's depressing. July was all that happy music.
(59:43):
We're happy for you. October, your top month for your
favorite Carlos Rafael Rivera. What are you doing in October?
Have you looked into him? Yep.
OK, Be your most adventurous month.
So October was your top month for Carlos Rafael Rivera?
I'm like, what was I doing in October?
What are you doing? I was in New Zealand.
(01:00:05):
Oh, yeah. In October.
For almost all of October. And I've discovered because I'm
like who? Who My, my listening traversed
the decades. I'm a time traveller.
Yeah, that's me. Whoever.
Yeah, I've been alive for many. Well, yeah, time traveller,
you've just lived through many ages.
So the industrial Revolution student system.
(01:00:27):
Shut up. I listen to Oh yeah, no, that's
podcasts. He was show me the podcasts,
Show me the podcast page on. YouTube.
I listen to yours on Spotify. Have you gotten podcasts?
Lots of true. Crime.
(01:00:48):
That's the thing, right? All these people were sharing
their top five podcasts and it was me and like four true crime
things. I know people are.
That's really. Awful.
You really commit to the artistsyou love, which is true.
I listen to full albums, I listen to soundtracks and I
listen to full albums. And he's where he is.
(01:01:08):
Carlos Rafael Rivera, he's an artist or a composer on the
album Godless, which is the soundtrack to a television show,
which I really love. And it's it's like a Wild West
soundtrack. And so I actually had that
soundtrack in my ears while I was climbing mountains and oh.
(01:01:30):
No. Wages and yeah, really
beautiful, melodramatic music that I just had.
That's hilarious. And so so that.
You've got like cinematography music, like playing in your ears
as you're walking through, like Lord of the Rings country.
Walking around the Bush going a good.
Listen to the rhythm. And I'm like, it's all very
(01:01:56):
melodious. Waiting for orcs to come out and
a big battle to happen or something.
This, then this quiet sort of beautiful music, and I can see
the mist and the what? A hilarious way to do
bushwalking with dramatic music playing in the background.
Actually do that for quite a lotof my life and I think it's in
the second-half of the book. I wear my headphones a lot,
(01:02:16):
right? And, and I find it really useful
and helpful to me that even sometimes if I'm having an
anxious sort of the day, I'll put on some soothing music as I
walk through the shops and it helps me just regulate my heart
and regulate my breathing. Put on the hell down this
podcast and it'll just help calmyou down.
As you walk around the shops of this podcast on up in the middle
(01:02:38):
of Harris Farm, squeezing avocados and just go.
Squeezing avocados. Don't be cast.
For me with the with the straight.
Jacket, Yeah. Oh.
Well, again, she's fine. That's in the second-half of the
book. Oh boy.
Well, and when I saw my wife's top five play podcasts for the
(01:03:03):
year. Dual true crime.
No, look, I'm just happy to havebeen in the top five.
Were you? Second, I made second spot on my
wife's list of podcasts that shelistens to.
Have you checked her diary as towhat number husband you are?
Top ten? I reckon not.
(01:03:23):
Armchair expert. Me, I'm I'm in the top ten of
his girlfriends. Well, that's lovely.
Yeah, keep it up. One of you, one of my
favourites, he says. Imagine hitting top five.
Boy, I know Armchair Expert putsout more episodes than I do.
That's the thing, is it? Yeah.
They don't. I didn't Fact Check that one
anyway, so we're gonna do an episode called Finishing.
(01:03:49):
Finishes. Finishes and Julie's can tell
the story about. In finished airs not finished.
Finished airs. I got off the Moshed airs and
someone asked me about I didn't get to find out about Julie's
red and yellow roof racks. The roof racks.
I tried for an hour to finish that story.
Now that's for another time. Thanks for coming by.
(01:04:15):
Finish a layer. Is that the first podcast ever
that's finished with Finish You Later?
Oh man, I had no idea what was coming when we jumped into the
van for that one. And that's pretty much the way
it always goes. Hey, we did talk about the
Patreon page in there. And if you're hearing about it
for the first time, it's patreon.com/pod Van.
(01:04:37):
And I put in as much as I can ofbehind the scenes and extra bits
and pieces and exclusives beforethey get announced to anyone
else. And it's just the way, look, if
you're able to support the Pod Van rolling down the road, every
little bit does count and does help and enables me to keep
doing what I'm doing. Membership start from just 5
bucks a month. And yeah, patreon.com/bod Van,
(01:04:59):
there's like over 150 extra bitsof content in there so far, and
more on the way. All right.
Well, that's. Going to do for today, I reckon
some Ripper ones coming up. So lots of giveaways happening
on my socials as well, especially on the pod van
Facebook page. Lot of giveaways happening in
there at the moment. Want to be doing more of that.
(01:05:20):
I want to give you some fun and interesting things to do.
So check that out on Facebook. Just look up pod fan and we'll
see you in there. Have yourself an awesome day and
I'll catch you in the next one podcast with Robbie.
Podcast G'day I'm Rabbit. I record this podcast inside a
cute little retro caravan from 1967 that I tore around all over
the place. My three favorite words that you
could say to me. The three most beautiful words
that you could say to me are running.
Light, yeah. I'll work to whatever deadline
gets given to me and I will be there or thereabouts with that
(01:56):
deadline. It's therefore not a deadline.
Yeah, mortally wounded line. It's not looking good for this
line we're. Not no.
It's this poor line. I'm about to start taking on
staff Julian, and I'm going to allow them for roundabout
starts. Let's see how long that lasts.
For a job that just pays me to be me, 'cause you've got part.
(02:20):
Of it, right, You could be you. I've got a business plan.
I'll just be there. I'll just be me.
Hang on to the coattail girl andride the waves.
Ride the waves, alright? Then here we go.
It's the podcast with Rabbit. It was a hole in the wall over
(02:41):
there. I just put a sticker over it.
Oh my God. It's fine, everything's fine.
Everything's. I love that little.
What is it a meme, a gift or something?
It's fine. Everything's fine.
Everything's on fire. I think that's what it is, isn't
it? It's there's a fire behind.
Yeah, everything's. No, it's just like a dog sitting
(03:04):
at a table with a hat on. That's right, everything's fine.
That's great. I saw a meme that made me laugh
last night, which is it's one ofthose old, I follow this.
It's like old art memes. And it's all these people.
It's it's over a seance and it'sall these people sitting around
like a Ouija board. And it's the meme is Zoom
(03:26):
meetings are are just modern seances.
Wait, I think somebody wants to join us.
Mary, is that you? Can you hear us?
We can hear you, Mary. Mary is trying to connect.
I think Mary's in the room. That is brilliant.
(03:50):
So funny. I was actually gonna put a thing
up online this morning, but man,I didn't have time and I knew
you'd be on time. It's actually really annoying
how on time you are. Sorry, are you aware of just how
annoying you are to people with your on timedness?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I may feel the
same about other people's like. Read the room, Julie.
(04:10):
It's what I've come to peace with recently is discovering
that it's an ADHD thing. OK, time poor.
Yeah, kind of you just. You always work well under a
deadline. Yeah, like, you should have seen
me charging around. That's why I'm sweating.
Still running around to be up here at.
I was aiming for 7:50. OK.
(04:31):
And you know, I made it for 8:00and then you turn up bang on.
Are you the greatest welcome. No, that's not what I want.
You're. Deadline that you work well
under. I've got you saved in my phone
as deadline. Dead something.
To me. I was thinking more like dead
shit or. Something dead to me.
(04:52):
Dead to me. Last name What's what's my
surname on your phone is Tome. Mm Hmm, that's what it is Tome.
Dead tome. Dead tome My three favorite
words that you could say to me. The three most beautiful words
that you could say to me are running light.
Yeah. I have no idea how much I would
love that. Oh, but you know what would
(05:14):
happen like if this became a thing where you're like, OK,
well, if I say 8:00, yeah, I'll just turn up at 10 past. 8:10 So
8:10 mine you did to me and now,yeah.
Oh, quarter past 20 past. Yeah, 20 past.
You know, I had friends like this once that were always late,
always late. They were late to their own
stuff. They'd go to their house and
(05:36):
they wouldn't be there because they were running late to get
back from whatever they're doing.
I get it, Like, and and literally could be an hour to
two hours late for dinner. It drove me up the wall.
Like, really? Yeah.
Chronically horribly. There wasn't one of the two that
kept them on time. You know, they didn't have that
going on. And so for Joe's christening, so
this is Joe. He's 29 now.
(05:57):
This is quite some time ago. Like, I hold on.
No. No, no, you certainly let it go.
We we told them an hour before the ceremony.
Oh, you gave him a fake time? We gave him a fake time and you
know what? She rang me from the freeway and
said and said, I know You said we have to because I said you
can't be late to this guy. Yeah, I know.
I'm so sorry everything went wrong blah blah blah blah blah
(06:19):
blah. Yeah.
What time are they going to be there?
They're gonna be there bang all the time.
You should have heard me, wouldn't you?
I know. So I'm like, where are you?
Where are you? Oh.
You gave it some. Where are you?
Where are you if you're running that well, We've only just hit
the start of the freeway and I'mlike, perfect.
Could have gone well. We'll hold everything then for
(06:43):
an hour. I think what we're taking.
From this is I'm a bit of a cow,but I'm not that much of A cow.
I've had people give me fake times and fake deadlines and
stuff, and I know it. Yeah, at the radio station, they
would win the and I'd find it out and I wouldn't even care.
Like, I I'd find out and go, yeah, I get it.
Yeah. The radio awards, when you've
(07:05):
got to have your entry in by a certain date and they're like.
Yeah, days before. We need weeks.
I had one deadline that was given to me that I found out it
was two weeks early. So it was like must be done by
this date. So that's just people
understanding that you work wellunder a deadline.
They just want to make sure the deadline is not the the
deadline. No, if you choose that moment to
(07:26):
not work well. Is your car a BYOD?
No. Bring your own drinks.
Bring your own deadline. On your own tender line.
What is it BYD? BYD build your dream is what it
stands. For Right, yeah, but and they
used to have that written acrossthe back of the car.
They did. And then they were.
Like, yeah, that's that's gonna turn me off buying it 'cause.
I believe the word is NAF. It's a bit NAF.
(07:49):
Well, I'm just happy to call it a BYD, but yeah, bring your
deadline. Yeah, bring your deadline.
Give GM AD, give me another deadline.
Give me another Jimmy, give me afake deadline.
I don't care. I'll work to whatever deadline
gets given to me and I will be there or thereabouts with that
deadline. That there it's therefore not a
(08:11):
deadline. Yeah, it's a, it's a mortally
wounded line. It's not looking good for this
line. We're not.
No, it's this poor line. Beep, beep, beep.
Say your goodbyes. I've been holding on to
something for a while. And a confession, OK, That I
(08:33):
need to share with you. God, and I I I keep seeing this
in my notes as a Yeah, that's right.
I gotta tell Julie about that. I haven't told anyone about this
because I've been waiting to share it with you, OK?
You know, there's just. Just so honoured.
There's just things that I I seeand I go, Oh my God, Julie's
gonna be quite amused by that. OK, so I'll save it for that.
(08:56):
You know when Spotify gives you your you're Wrapped at the end
of the year. Yes, Hi, Jay.
Oh, there's oh, hi, have fun. Good luck.
Have fun good. Luck.
Don't do what I wouldn't do. Do what he wouldn't do.
Yeah, that's it. So yeah, that's.
It opposite of him. Do the opposite.
Let's just keep shouting at him.So this is my now 20 year old
(09:17):
son who's heading off to his dayof work.
What's that? He's not in a mitre 10U.
We're gonna have to come back tothe Spotify Wrapped artist.
New job. Yeah, new job.
OK. First day, that's him hidden
offer his first day at his new job.
So I put up a thing in our Facebook group, the broadband
Facebook group saying that he'd gotten all qualified for to be a
(09:40):
support worker. Yeah.
And the place that he did all his qualifications every they've
just given him nothing. He didn't get a simple shift.
And so I said to him, what do you I could put it up in the
group. What?
Watch this lot go out, you know,And I expected him to be no, no,
no, no, I won't do it that way. Don't want to use use dad's
(10:03):
thing or whatever he went. Yeah, OK.
Oh, he's all he wants. Your connection.
Yeah, now he does, yeah. And so put it up there, a
million suggestions came throughand contacts and all those kind
of things. Yeah, one kept getting put
forward by a whole bunch of others and so, yeah, that he
went off by himself from that point.
Contacted her, went out, had themeeting.
(10:23):
He's done 3 days of training now.
Yeah, three full days of training and today's his first
day as a support worker. Wow, that's amazing.
So he's still at mite of 10 for now, Yep.
But yeah, he wanted to get into this this sort of stuff as well.
And while he's going to uni and.Fantastic, Yeah.
Oh, good on him. He's the type.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
(10:44):
You know, Yeah, he'll be lovely.Like I found out what he gets
paid for and I went I'm the type.
I'm the type. I'm also the type.
Yeah, OK. I've got restrictions.
Time for a start. I can be there or thereabouts
I'd have I'd have your. Support is coming all right.
(11:05):
What's your problem? What are you complaining about?
You've had it too good for too long.
I said thereabouts. That's what my roster would have
on it. 9:00 or there about start.
Nobody's roster says that That'sthat's the.
Thing I'm about to start taking on staff Julian, and I'm going
to allow them for roundabout starts.
(11:27):
Let's see how long that lasts. Let's see how long that.
I mean, I'm gonna forget who's rostered on for what anyway, so
it doesn't even doesn't really matter.
So yes, he's off for his first day of what he's told us some of
the sort of things that they, because they prepare them for
everything. And in those three full days of
training, yeah, oh, my goodness.They prepare them for every
(11:51):
scenario, really. Yeah.
And this one in particular, theydeal with quite the extreme end
of things. It's not the other end of
support work where I don't wannabe disrespectful to the
different ends of support work, but in OK if I were going for a
job. Like high high level care.
(12:12):
Yeah, please turn this around into nice words.
Yeah, because. Well, OK, so if I were going to
work there, I would go, OK, here's what I'm prepared to deal
with, right? I'm looking for ones that wanna
go bowling. Can we tell this except that
this is not your line of work? Yeah, I think we need to go any
further than I can't be on time.Depends.
Though doesn't is there. So there I couldn't work for
(12:34):
this company because they they deal quite heavily in that end
of the spectrum. I want a company that deals in
the taken bowling end of things.When you feel like it, yes.
OK, so that's just called being you.
What do you mean I need a job for?
That no, but I want to be paid to be me, Julie.
(12:54):
Well, this is what this whole thing is.
You're spot on. I have looked for a job that
just pays me to be me. You've got part of the right you
could be. You get paid.
What a flawed business model. A business plan I'll just.
(13:20):
I'll just be me. Why are people not paying me for
this? You're gonna find people who
want. You don't understand.
I'll take your bowling. Hey, you know what we need to do
an episode on soon. We'll call it the The Finishers
this episode. That'll be the title of it.
Don't pull faces at me. It's.
(13:41):
Bob disording. That's another kind of job.
That I don't, I don't listen, Julie, this.
I've got my set of conditions, things I will do.
How much is it paying? It's certainly at the extreme
end, so yeah. Oh, no, yeah, no, I'm, yeah, I'm
(14:01):
at the very low needs end of theof the care spectrum.
You can. You can barely care for
yourself. But why am I not paying myself?
I should be paying myself and registering you.
Have a lot? You're at the high need.
End of the science. I didn't even realise.
Yeah. So the Finishers expert episode
(14:23):
will be you finishing all of your stories that you have
started. Oh.
There is not time for that. Because.
How many years are we going? Back though, No, no, no, no out.
Of the radio. No, no.
'Cause let me tell you, that's astory.
No. For like 4 times an hour.
Let me start talking about something and then go somewhere
(14:43):
else. Yeah.
And then someone comes up to me years later and goes, hey, I
never did find out why Julie didthe.
Oh, whatever. And I'm like Oh well, read the
book. Pretty sure it's in the first
half because I haven't heard theend either.
Because every time we start talking, usually like we're not
talking about. The toys, we're not talking
(15:04):
about the toys. That was a classic toys.
I tell people about that and when when I'm talking about how
we used to run the show. Run.
Show the show. It was just, I would say about
how, you know, some shows can bevery, we're talking about
breakfast radio shows, Some can be very structured and this is
(15:24):
the break, this is the break, this is the break.
And when we're quite fluid, could be halfway through a
break. Whiteboard when we started, but
it didn't last very long. No, it was pointless.
What are you writing on? They were just drawing, you
know, dicking balls on there theway we go.
I see what we're doing at 8:10. More ball talk, so whatever.
(15:46):
I mean, we've grown up now. We don't do that.
It's crack talk. Now get us a Jingle.
Crack talk. My God, I was working radio
station. There's a Jingle in South
Australia. I was working at a radio station
and you could during the show because things can change so
quickly now. Oh, OK, Actually, let's do a
(16:06):
let's do a break next on the 10 Biggest Toys for Christmas.
OK. Which is what that break was
supposed to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And quick. Julie, find out what they are.
Yeah, and then I buzzed through.32nd Commercial.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this was back before
computers. Julie had to write a letter away
to the toy department and. I and count up the answer is on
an Abacus. And then write down a note like
(16:29):
chiseling into a. Tablet.
Yeah, it was quite a total assuming.
Process. Put it on the tablet.
Julie, hang on. And because these things were
yes, so so wouldn't change it, Iwould buzz through, push a
button on the desk, which would buzz through to the production
(16:50):
studio down the hall where there's someone just as a dude
just sitting there twiddling histhumbs with nothing better to
do. Well, that's what he was doing.
And waiting to. Hear.
From you waiting to hear from meand make something.
The voice from God. On like AI mean it's not what I
said but yeah on like a 4 minutedeadline we've got a song on now
Miley Cyrus is on yeah and by the end of the song hey mate can
(17:11):
you make us an intro for have a result Tuesday Now that's an
exact example that I said through to Eddie by once he's
down in the production studio down the hall and this amused me
so much so. We he's probably up there.
Swear he blown at you. Turns out he was.
Yeah, so we have. A Rissol we're.
(17:32):
Having a laugh in the studio about, I think because we were
talking about another day when we had, I just asked him for a
totally random thing anyway, no worries.
And then like 3 minutes later, alright mate, it's in the
system. You go to the computer and type
in whatever it is he called it and Yep, there it is.
There's a Jingle all about whatever it is.
Yeah. And we're having a laugh in the
(17:53):
studio during the show about it.And I went because he'll just
make up anything that you ask him to.
I said, what's this? Hey, can we quickly, can you
knock up an intro for have a resol Tuesday?
Yeah, What is it? Have a resol Tuesday.
All right. And then like 3 minutes, like,
so we're giggling to ourselves in there like a few minutes
(18:14):
later. All right, mate, in the system,
like no way. So we open it up on the computer
and then have a result Tuesday and then a music fair.
We laughed ourselves so stupid. And then there was a dilemma of
do we tell him? And what's gonna You've just
(18:35):
done it on air. Yeah, yeah.
And he did. And he didn't find it as funny
as. This poor guy, he's riding the
ragged edge of disaster that morning.
It's like I totally can't take this pressure anymore.
Yeah, he has. A real have a what?
And where have a result Tuesday came from was we were at I've.
(18:55):
Got an idea where it came from? What, Just out of the deep dark
crevasse? No, no, it actually came from a
the Tuesday thing did. But they have a result that was
at the footy. I can't even remember what the
game was. Oh yes, it was, it was a game.
I was there with my mum and dad,I think, and there were these
people sitting in front of us. And, you know, some people can
(19:17):
get really worked up at the footy, at the ref.
Oh, yeah. And get.
Yeah, getting all fired up. Says there's a couple in front
of us. And she's brought along all
these snacks and things in her bag.
She's getting them all out. And her husband is just losing
it over a ref's call. You see where the story's going.
And then she just gets. Invited the ref to.
(19:37):
Oh my God, no. Oh the line, she says to him.
Oh well, never, ever. This will stay in my mind
forever. She opens up a Tupperware
container and goes, don't worry about it darl.
Have a result. Don't worry about it doll, have
a wristle and like that. Just solution.
(19:59):
To everything. And then they packed up their
lunch and went back to the castle.
Don't worry about it, Darl. Did he say What do you call this
you? Have a ristle ristles ristles
just solve everything like. Oh I I completely agree.
And he calmed down and he just chewed on it.
He put a little bit of sauce on top there and sat there in his
(20:22):
ristle. And we died in the row behind
them. Just go.
Don't worry about it. And that became a saying quite
often from that point on. Anyone's worked up.
Hey, don't worry about it, darl.Have a Ristle.
So then that's we then became years later.
Hey can we have an opener for have a Russell Tuesday?
Ohh. My God, did that Paul go?
(20:44):
Did he resign shortly after? No, he's still there.
Did you offer him a result? That's what I should have said
to don't. Worry about it, Ed.
Don't worry about Ed have a result.
Oh, so funny. It's gold.
But yeah, because the radio showto be so fluid and jump from one
thing to the other. Yep.
There was a time where you and Iwere about to do that break on
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air with the top 10 toys for Christmas.
Yeah. I was ready, man.
Yeah, I was so prepared. I had pictures.
I had anecdotes. I had memories.
Yeah. When a similar thing was the top
toy when I was a kid. Yeah, you were ready.
I was so ready. And then sometimes I didn't have
enough time to convey a full sentence and explanation no of
(21:28):
what's going on in my brain. Oh.
There's never time for that. How much time you got?
It's only a 3. It's a 3 hour show, we can't go
for everything going on in your head.
No. So I, we, we put our headphones
on already and that's the we're on now.
Now there's only like 5 seconds until.
Song is dying. The the last beat you're about
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to come in with your just over the dying.
Well, my big radio voicing code,Yeah, it's 8:10.
Few showers today on top of 26°.Before that.
What? Are the toys.
So I, I, I got my head. I quickly ripped them off my
head. Julie looks at me.
She rips her headphones off It 'cause it's, yeah, it's what we
do. We're like a synchronized diving
(22:12):
team, Yeah. Or something, you're ripping
headphones off. I'm ripping headphones off and.
She looks at me. Oh, it's wide open and I go,
we're not doing the toys. Headphones back on and then.
And I just. It's 8:10.
I don't know. What we're doing, but apparently
we're not doing the toys and Julie brought it up for years
later she just yell at me we're not doing the toys.
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But it correctly conveyed the message succinctly of what was
going on in my head. Well, kind of.
I'm heading in a direction that you know nothing about.
Hang on to the coattail girl andride the waves.
Ride the waves. Pretty much sums up the show.
It does. Hold on tight.
(22:58):
Let's see where we're going. Yeah.
Not darling at all. Coming up soon on an episode
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that we will be doing called TheFinishes or something and Julie
will tell us the top 10 toys from 2010.
Nah, not that. What would that be, 2000?
17. 17. Went from 16171819.
Were the four years we worked together OK?
Yeah, maybe. One of those ones somewhere in
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there. I'll look.
Up all of them and be ready it. Wouldn't have been the first
year because if I'd been bleached, my foot's itchy.
I got bitten by a hoppy Joe the other day.
What's? A hoppy Joe you.
Haven't seen that. Do you know them that that was
like, it sounded like you were walking into a joke that I'd set
up just then, but there was no punch lines.
(24:50):
It's like you you went for it fully but then.
You set him up, I knock him down.
I think that's how it works. I did it to you once on air and
I've got video of it not on air,off air.
I've got video of this. And it's so funny when I, I said
something and you went, what's that?
And and I was like, I'm like, hang on, we're walking into a
little bit of a joke here. And so then I went, it's like
(25:10):
when they had the Marder and youlike the what?
And I'm like the Marder and you go the murder and you go, what's
the matter? And I go, nothing, what's the
matter with you? And I was so proud.
Pretty sure it's from the Lion Kings.
Oh, really? Yeah, that's a murder.
What's a murder? Nothing.
What's a murder with you? God, well, I could see why
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you're proud. It's one of your better jokes.
And if it's not from The Lion King, then yeah, it's mine.
But I'm pretty sure, pretty sureit's something like that.
Are you ever going to finish thefinishes story?
I'll get there, OK. Why are you rushing me?
Because I want to get back to the Spotify story.
Yeah, but I got bitten by Hoppy Joe the other day.
Oh yeah. And they when you went, what's a
(25:53):
hoppy, Joe? I was like, what's the punch
line here? I don't actually know.
That's right. There is no joke.
There's not always a joke. Well, isn't it?
I don't know, I'm trying to think of one, but they're all
just terrible. A hoppy Joe because you've got a
son named Joseph before really trying not to swear.
(26:16):
Here's comes Floyd Doggo from down the road.
He's pretty cute. Floyd with his floppy ears.
A hoppy Joe is it's a big orangeAnt and they're aggressive and
they hop around. They they bounce.
They bounce like a out of control Pogo stick kind of
thing. They just bam, bam.
(26:36):
And yeah, if they itch you, man,oh, that pain.
And then you itch for about fourdays.
Yeah, I. Think I've got a green Ant?
Yeah, well, I shouldn't. Oh yeah.
And I didn't see it. It punctured a hole in my arm
and I've still got a lump there.Well, I mean, you didn't see it.
So that's the thing. I've been bitten three Times Now
by a hobby Joe, and each time they've still been attached to
me. And I'm glad because this one,
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it took me like 3 wax at them toget them off my foot.
Oh, but at least then I know what it is.
Yeah, because otherwise I'd think it's like.
A cobra. The funnel.
Web or so yeah, it's something that's going to kill me
obviously, because the pain man,but not hurt yeah.
I don't know about Hoppy Joe's. I think green ants hurt.
Yeah, and they leave a mark for days.
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The brutal man comes out and andreally itchy Australia.
I'm off to New Zealand tomorrow.Oh, nothing there kills you.
Thank you. I said that to have you.
Listened to the people do, but the animals don't.
Have you heard Riverbank Frank'sepisode yet?
No Oh, sorry's beautiful poem, but.
Poem is incredible. Saving that for when I've got
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some just. Poems now being viewed a few
100,000 times. Amazing, isn't it?
I've never had anything more shared, just like being shared
around the isn't it? Oh, what a beautiful poem.
I'm so glad that that's being shared around.
And someone even said one of thegreatest comments on there was
someone turned this into a children's book now.
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Yeah. And I was like, oh, it.
It totally is. Yeah.
That is. And even the way he does it.
I'm Riverbank, Frank. I live by the river.
Yeah. Here's a message I'd like to
deliver. Each one of those is a page, and
you can see the picture. Yeah.
Yeah. Of him sitting by the river.
Some beautiful indigenous art inthere.
Yeah, and just the story. Yeah.
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Yeah. I'm Weradjuri Gamilaroi.
What's your story? Yeah, I love that there in that
episode, Riverbank, Frank, I, I,I was telling him that, you
know, there's nothing in New Zealand can kill you.
He I said to him, if you've got air conditioning and he goes,
yeah, in his caravan down by theriver, he goes, yeah, if it's
hot, I drag my mattress outside,That's OK.
(28:45):
And he goes, I've got a cot there, so I'm up off the ground,
get away from the brown snakes. And I was like, this is the
thing, mate. And I said in New Zealand
nothing can kill you. He goes, oh, there's one thing
you gotta watch out for that allblack forward pack.
Talking your language. Yeah, I know.
And I was like, well, we don't have to watch out for it, you
do. So tomorrow I go to tomorrow as
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we record this. And when this comes out, maybe
I'm already there, maybe I'm already back going to New
Zealand with my daughter. It's a daddy daughter trip.
Yeah. Do you know about this?
About what? I mean, Yeah, you've told me.
OK. So for my birthday, my wife got
me. She spared no expense.
She got me two $12.00 tickets tothe footy because there's a big
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birthday. You could.
You should. I mean rule of thumb, you should
at least spend a dollar per year.
Yeah, Nope. She's not even close.
Not even halfway there. This game of rugby is between
The Crusaders and the Blues and the Super Rugby team that won
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the comp last year, and it's being played on.
I thought it was a farmer's paddock.
It's not quite. Yeah, that's one of the other
games that they do in the preseason trials.
Yeah, this one is like a club rugby thing.
So I'm picturing. I've looked up the club, the
grounds, yeah and it looks like like the Orimba rugby grounds
cause and everyone just goes andstands on the sidelines nice and
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watches All Blacks running around playing again.
That's amazing. It's really cool.
So it's like so T and I, we watch all The Crusaders and All
Blacks games together over here every weekend in the rugby
season. So we're going over just the two
of us. Oh.
That's so amazing. Got ourselves in Airbnb and
we're just over for like 4 days I think in Christchurch and.
(30:32):
Beautiful. I'm so looking forward to just,
you know, she's nearly 15. Yeah.
And for the two of us to spend that.
Time, one-on-one time, yeah, really special.
I was actually talking about NewZealand last night so I was up
at the detention centre. Oh, yeah, the boys and we cooked
a beautiful big dinner and we'reall sitting down, which is, it's
the best part of the whole thingis where we all sit down at the
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end and just enjoy what everybody's cooked.
And they were saying, oh, well, there was a lot of leftovers
yesterday. And because I, we cooked far too
much food and they said, oh, youcan take it to brotherhood
tomorrow. And I'm like, oh, what's
brotherhood? What?
Was I going to say? They said, well, different
groups come in and teach us about all different cultures.
(31:13):
And, and they started talking about some of the different
cultural groups that had come inand talk taught them all about
their, their, you know, their culture and their heritage and
all that sort of stuff. And it's sort of so for every
culture that comes in, there's going to be a kid or two that
really relates because it's their culture and all the others
are learning about their culture.
And they started talking about the, the, the Maori boys coming
(31:34):
quite a lot. Oh yeah.
And, and do that culture and, and this this boy, and he wasn't
a Maori. He was saying that they, they
did the hacker one time and he starts telling me about it.
And he goes and they just go, doyou want to see a hacker?
I'm like, well, I yeah. And so he said, and they started
doing it. And then all these other like
the kids that that knew this onewere all standing up throughout
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the room. And, and this, this teenage boy
in this this centre, he, he was talking about it.
And he says, I've got goosebumpseven thinking about it.
And it moved him. It really moved him.
And I just thought what what value there is in the idea of,
just like with Riverbank, Frank sitting down and being open to.
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Yeah. What somebody else's heritage
is, you know, and not going right.
It's not how I do it. So I don't like it, but just
going well, we've, we've got this ability to be moved by how
other people, you know, celebrate, challenge, all of
those things. And, and I, I just loved that I
I. Loved it in that.
That hacker is so powerful. Oh, and it's not just because
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there's so many different hackers that there are and that,
and in that episode, Riverbank, Frank was talking about a
funeral that he went to a maid of his who he didn't know had
any connection to these, these Kiwis.
He didn't know who all these people were at this thing.
But then as everyone was walkingaway from the gravesite, they
saw all these music was all lining up and they launched into
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a haka and it was just. And then afterwards they just
quietly just walked away. A spontaneous haka is just spine
tingling is beautiful. It is really moving and I'll
tell you who gets quite emotional about it is Mick.
Really. Quite a, quite a funny story
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where he had said that to the boys.
You know, he he tears up whenever he sees it.
And it's it's not our country, it's not our thing, but it's
still powerful stuff. And and we've got, we've got
Harker envy. Like, yeah, anyone who denies
that is probably telling lies. But Mick gets quite emotional,
quite choked up about it. So a few years ago, it's about 8
(33:45):
years ago or so. So the boys were growing up, but
we went on a family cruise and it was just a fun cruise.
We went to Vanuatu and it was just like 7 nights together and
we had an absolute ball on board.
The same cruise, there were a couple of 100 people from a
Maori family there for a wedding.
Oh wow. And it happened to be that there
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was some of those World Cup games going on, on the telly.
Amazing. So Paddy, who is just the most
open hearted, friendly lad you'll ever meet, he just
befriended these guys, just befriended them.
And so we hardly saw him becausehe was hanging out with his
family and all these gigantic, you know, tattooed blokes.
(34:30):
Yeah, watching the 40 having a ball.
So anyway, they're seeing it, and they've joined in the hacker
one night. And, like, Paddy's just, like,
all for it and that. And then he tells of his family,
all these big men. My dad cries when the hacker
happens. Awesome.
(34:51):
So big men's wondering why all these blokes coming up going.
Oh good day mate, they wanted tomeet the bloke who cries at the
hacker. They would love it.
They would love the fact that hedoes, I reckon.
Well, when Patty told him that'swhat he done and makes just
like. Oh no.
(35:12):
He walked around like this for the rest.
Of the it's so powerful yeah, itwouldn't surprise me if one
breaks out when we're at this game yeah.
On Friday so. It's not just a given that that
happens at a footy. No, no, you know, I don't know
enough about the the when and why.
(35:32):
And I'll learn more about that. I'm learning more and more about
that culture as we go along today.
Or a Maori, the the Maori language being spoken in New
Zealand. It's happening so much more.
It's. Great.
There's a a beautiful acknowledgement of that culture.
Yeah, New Zealand, there's a much higher percentage of Maori
people there than that. There's only 3% of Australia is
(35:53):
Indigenous. Right.
So I think that probably helps in that embracing in that
incorporating of, of their traditional culture, your
traditional culture in into everyday life.
I I look forward to a time wherewe, you know.
Yeah, someone commented on Frank's poem and she said this
is exactly how I feel and exactly what I want to say.
(36:15):
But being white, I feel like I can't to be saying what Frank's
message was, which was just let's just guys, let's just all
yeah, we're all the same under the skin.
Let's just sit down and talk andyeah.
And. And actually embrace and
celebrate the differences instead of to shut them down.
Yeah. You know, there's, there's so
much beauty in, in the differentways people do things.
(36:38):
Yeah. So much to be learned in the
spaces, in the gaps in our knowledge.
Those gaps can be filled with fear and rejection, and I'm not
going to. Yeah, I don't want to look in
that direction. They can be filled.
Yeah, with love and understanding and enrichment.
Open yourself up to it. Open yourself up to it.
The very worst thing that can happen, yeah.
(37:01):
Is. That you learn something.
Yeah, I I love that day I had with Frank.
We. So you've seen how much have I
not seen you since before Dubbo?Before that trip?
Oh, my God. Yeah.
So he was my last stop. Yeah.
On that trip because I'd recorded with everybody else and
everyone had said you gotta go find Frank and record with him.
(37:21):
And then eventually I was like, actually live just by the river.
And they're like, yeah, you're gonna go down these dirt tracks.
And then someone sent me a didn't you?
Yeah. Yeah, I've got a great video.
Actually, I've got a few videos I could put them up soon of like
I actually recorded while going along these dirt tracks in my
BIG4 wheel drive, but with the little caravan on behind me.
(37:43):
Wheel Drive. Doesn't have a problem with
those. It had no problem with it the.
1967 Caravan, however. Just straight up broke the the
A-frame on it. It's not a four wheel drive.
It doesn't even have no. Four wheels?
No, it's two solidly in two wheel drive and.
Two wheel, not so. Drive.
The next day I discovered that the A-frame was in AV shape.
(38:05):
It was just cracked right through it.
Oh my God. Shout out to Agrawal in Dubbo
again because those guys came tothe rescue.
But oh man, what that and that cost me $1000 to to fix the
A-frame. Is that all?
Exactly. Yeah, it could have easily been
many thousands. So stressed when I saw that I
(38:27):
actually thought this could be the end of the pod van like I I
really did because the chassis is.
Oh yeah. Kind of important, yeah.
We're like our little 1956 caravan.
Mum and Dad have said to us, look, we understand that this
has a finite life. We we can't see the end of its
(38:48):
life yet, but the once the chassis goes, yeah, you know,
no. We could know what I'm about
1200 bucks. I, I actually with another
caravan, I got the whole chassisunderneath redone and it was
$500. Yeah, OK.
So this one I'm. So relieved I want to ask.
No, I was thinking it was going to be anywhere between I don't
want them hearing this and goingoh, what?
(39:09):
Hang on a SEC, shoot me through another invoice.
But I was prepared for. I said to sav on the drive there
to which during this conversation she said to me, I
need to get off the phone. You are stressing me out, right,
Because every bump I'm going over, it was 6 KS from the zoo
to Agrawal and I I could not have towed it any further.
I was scared it was just going to snap off.
(39:29):
Yeah, but I'm driving along and I said to a look, two things
from it. I'm probably gonna have to leave
it here, come home and come backin a couple of weeks and then
tow it home and it'll be somewhere between 15102 1/2
grand, probably somewhere in there even if I can even get it
done by these guys. And then so they said leave it
here and we'll get onto it tomorrow morning.
(39:50):
And then I'm at the library doing some editing the next
morning and, and I get this callfrom them going up, all done.
Come get it. It was like at 11:30.
Amazing. Turned up.
That's phenomenal. I honestly, I thought it's
either the end of the pod van oryou're gonna have to sell your
house and you're gonna have to live in here.
Yeah, which is the way it would have gone.
Well, obviously the it's not gonna be the end of the pod van
be the end of my family having aroof over their head.
(40:11):
Well. It's just a little roof.
It's just a smaller roof. And do you?
Reckon the four of you would go?A bunch of us in there, but I'll
tell you what that was. Well, it was all worth it to be
able to. Amazing.
You know, to riverbank Frank. So I love about these trips that
yeah, Oh my God, the things thatare happening.
But so I went down in there and it was my last track that I was
(40:32):
going to go down. I'd been down all these
different ones. There's so many different forks
on this the. Bloody van snapped.
Dirt track. I had to do like 3 point turns
with the caravan on these dirt tracks, backing into the grass,
the scrub on either side and everything.
And Oh my God, yeah. And then eventually I'm driving
along and I see this caravan couple of 100 metres away.
(40:52):
Yeah, tucked away under some trees.
Oh my God, that's him. It's going to be in.
So then as I'm driving up, he's sitting by the fire.
He's got a fire gun. It's like 30 something degrees,
which he later explained to me because he was putting a cupper
on. Yeah, it has no electricity at
all. So he makes a fire, boils up the
Billy and then makes himself a cup of tea.
That'd be brilliant. Sits down there with Reg, his
(41:13):
old cattle dog, and as I was pulling up there, he's getting
up, he's standing up. He tucks his shirt in and.
Yeah, company. Yeah, I've got company and I've
rolled up and I've gone over there.
Big smile on the face Good day, mate.
So talk about the 62nd elevator pitch.
Yeah. Of what you're doing.
I mean, I had. To nail it for that.
(41:33):
Had to be a lot quicker than that too.
I just basically went out and said said good day, said who I
was. And I do this podcast.
I go around and and record with people and capture stories, a
lot of people's stories. And so many people from in Dubbo
have been saying, oh, you got totalk to Riverbank Frank.
Yeah. He's like, I don't know why
you'd want to talk to me. And I was like, whenever I start
(41:53):
chatting and then he just goes, he's still sitting down at the
stage and I'm understanding thatI'm thinking, I don't know if
this is going to happen. And then he goes, what's your,
what's your stance on the black fellas?
I'm like, oh good God. And I just went I don't have
one. Yeah.
(42:14):
Yeah, yeah. And he goes, yeah, OK.
And I went and then we got talking and I told him I was
from New Zealand and stuff. And he goes, OK, all right, Yep.
I don't know what what that did by saying by saying that.
So you you know, you're not an Australian, so there's maybe a
reason for you to not have a. Yeah, yeah, I was just, and as
we got talking about in the episode, I was, I just, I don't
(42:36):
care what your skin colour is oranything.
We're all just people and for the sake of what I'm doing in
this thing, it's just people's stories and I love to hear them.
And there's different backgrounds and reasons for why
that's your story and stuff. And, and we hit it off and we
had a great chat. And then afterwards, you know,
he finished it with that poem, which I did not see that coming.
(42:59):
He just goes, I'll, I'll give you this one.
I gave the IT was a speech he did at some point, whatever, a
poem that he'd written. And then just off the top of his
head, he just sat there and did that.
And he finishes it, gives me a thumbs up, takes headphones off
and hops out. That's it.
Shakes my hand off. He goes, yeah.
And he went back to his cold cuppa and I jumped out and I
stayed with him there down by when he sat by the fire with him
and we had chats. He did more poems for me.
(43:21):
I was like, can you just do those up there?
Yeah. Here's another one.
He's got one called Bridges witha Bridge, and that was awesome.
Amazing. It was an amazing experience.
Yeah. And he's right.
He's right in the thing that he said in the episode, just about
if we just sat down and talked to each other.
Yeah. You find that we're not that
different. No.
And there are, there are differences, yes.
(43:41):
And be open to them. And but then deep down, we're
just people. Yeah, I saw.
I saw an installation in an art gallery once and it was a
painting by an indigenous artistand it was entitled When you See
Black, I see Red. And of course the expression to
see red means I get angry. Angry.
Yeah. And so I sort of felt
(44:03):
uncomfortable as I read the description of it.
But the description was if you cut us, we blee.
We're all yeah, OK, all got red blood.
Yeah, that's all it meant. And I'm like, Oh yeah, OK, same
message. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
We're. All the same underneath.
So yeah, there's Hoppy. Joe bit me and.
(44:24):
Your world is really broadening,isn't it?
Oh, yeah, Yeah. Oh. 100%.
The work you've done for the past decades has had you in a
studio, and this is just taking you places that you've you've
never been meeting all differentkinds of people.
Oh, oh, you don't know about this.
(44:45):
Oh, do you? No, I don't think you know about
this. In fact, I haven't even, I have
not spoken about this on the podcast.
I have not put it out there in the wider public, but I did put
it out there on into my Patreon group, right?
I spoke to them about it. I did a well.
I'm not in your Patreon group. It's only $5.00 a month Julie.
Surely you can. I would refuse your membership
(45:09):
if you tried to sign up to that.I want to give a quick shout out
(46:17):
to some supporters of the Pod van podcast like Jetstream
Graphics, the legends that take care of all of our printing, for
the merchandise, for the signageon the pod van, always doing
such an awesome job. King Kumba Mitre 10.
There's almost more of King Kumba Mitre 10 inside the Pod
van than there is inside King Kumba Mitre 10.
(46:38):
They're super helpful, super knowledgeable.
I can always go in there and getthe good stuff to keep the pod
van rolling on down the road. And they've been a big supporter
from before the pod van was the even a thing.
And of course, Gwendoline Bowling Club as well, if you're
looking for a place to catch up with some mates.
I've been saying lately a lot more people seem to be looking
for connection and community. Well, if you're looking for
(46:58):
something to do while you're catching up with friends, my
goodness. I mean, you've got the bowls,
you've got the barefoot bowls, you've got happy hours, you've
got darts competitions, you've got trivia on Thursday nights,
Fridays, there's live entertainment, you've got
Saturday sips and then you've got the Sunday pool competition.
Beautiful restaurant upstairs over Look in the lake as well.
Next time you're in the area, pop in and see my mates at the
(47:21):
Gondolin Bowling Club with Robbie.
I like to share extra bits and things in there with the Patreon
group. They're like financially
actually supporting this in backing it.
And I'm always trying to think of what extra bits that I can do
in there. So when something comes along
and it's a bit, I don't know, exclusive or something I'm not
putting out into the into the full world yet, I'll pop it in
(47:44):
there, in there. I said to them, and I couldn't.
It was hard to say it at first. I'm journaling every day now, so
I write at the start of every day.
Yeah. And what I wrote that day, I got
as far as a certain point, and then I couldn't even write it in
my journal. I had to pause.
And I was like, because as soon as I write this, then that's it.
(48:06):
It's out there. Yeah.
It's like when I talked about mymental health on air.
Yeah. I didn't do it for so long
because it was the biggest thingwas once it's out there, it's
out there, you can't take it back.
Then I'm that guy who has ring. That bell.
No. And So what?
I had written and paused. That was today's the day I can
finally say. And that was where I stopped.
(48:28):
And I'm like, can I don't know? And and I thought about it some
more and I went, yeah. And that's what I talked about
in that episode in the Patreon, was the fact that I paused at
that point and why I did. And the sentence is today's the
day that I can finally say. I'm grateful that I lost my job
in radio there. It.
(48:48):
Is yeah, yeah. And since that day, I don't
know, there was something I saw in something online that said
the sooner you can get to acceptance, the better.
With whatever it is, with whatever has happened, the
sooner you can get to acceptance, sooner you can just
keep moving forward and you don't have to think about that
thing. Look at your face.
(49:10):
I'm I'm really crying. Well, you remember what I said
to you when this was all going on 100%, yeah.
This could be the best thing that's ever happened to you, was
what you said. I was standing just out the back
there. I said I don't know if you're
ready to hear this. Yeah, you said I've got
something to say and I, I don't think you're ready to hear it.
(49:31):
And I said Nah, hit me. Only because it was you and I
knew it wasn't going to be hurtful or anything.
Yeah, no. And you said this could actually
be the best thing that's ever happened to you.
And I said at the time, yeah, I mean, I get that.
Yeah, no, I'm not there and it'll take me a while to get.
There and intellectualise it, but now you're feeling it.
Because I've been through it before.
I've been through this with other radio stations.
(49:53):
And we just pack up and move to another city.
I'll get another job in radio, pack up, move on.
And but we were not going to be moving on this time.
We wanted to stay where we were.Yeah.
And the other radio shows had just announced their radio
stations had announced their Brekie shows.
And so I knew I wasn't going to be on any of those in the
market. And it was that horrible
realization, and it wasn't just that brekkie show, it wasn't the
(50:15):
eight years that I'd been in that market.
It was could be the end of threedecades of radio and my identity
as a radio guy. Yeah, but you still have that
identity, you're still doing, you're still using all of those
skills and all that experience and, and the connections as well
as the community. Was when I realized that I'm not
(50:37):
just a radio guy, I'm a broadcaster.
I'm a content creator. Bit of a Dick.
Bit of a Dick. Yep, that.
Well, I mean, obviously you've read my LinkedIn.
They only let me put three things that one doesn't say.
Bit of it, says massive. Yeah, you that's.
(51:03):
Thank you. Thank.
You for this Dick? Now I can use it as a quote, so
on my Tinder profile is quotation marks.
Don't you put my name? That's a Dick Dash.
Julie Goodwin. I can bump the sticker.
I love how you can take this very emotional moment that you
(51:26):
were having just a second ago. No.
So that's it. It's done.
It's out there now. I Yeah, I've let it go.
Yeah. And yeah, it's a, it's a shift
in, yeah, in looking at it as opposed to a thing that happened
(51:46):
to me, that to a thing that has allowed me to now do what I do.
Yeah. And you know if I run.
To you? What happened for you?
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
And I genuinely, I think a big fear as well with it was with
saying was it was, I were. I always picture because this is
(52:09):
my ego. I picture radio stations
possibly in this market going, hmm, rabbit's still around, you
know, and that I could get a call because it happens, you see
it happen all the time. People that have been out of
radio a couple of years, Paddy, who's on Triple M here, he got
the boot from the Brekkie show. A few years later they called
him back, or it was a year or two, I don't know.
(52:29):
And now he's on the radio and doing.
I don't want to close the door on radio.
I want to stay open to it. Yeah, but yeah, this is what I
do. This is what I'm doing now.
I absolutely love it. I've got so many big plans for
this and already some of those things that I was dreaming of
(52:49):
are happening. There's a lot of exciting things
on the way. Exactly.
And everything, everything you do and every little step forward
is gains momentum. And so eventually, you know,
it'll be exponential. It happens for you.
You'll be able to choose your opportunities.
Yeah, it's. Now I'll take any you know
you've. Made it?
Well, you you know you've made it when you get to decide which
(53:12):
ones to knock back. Yeah, I look forward to that
day. But you know, you're spot on.
When you said it was, when you said about there, this has
opened up my world 100%. That Dubbo trip, my God, I got
four or five episodes. I think actually I got a thing
about six or seven of them, but there were there's a solid 4
episodes out of that that are mybest for.
(53:34):
Yeah, OK. Like from the 140 or so.
Thanks a lot. Like by a long shot.
There was a chance to backpedal.Instead, I leaned forward.
It's alright, I listen to the Mollycroft 1 and I get it.
(53:56):
Oh my goodness. She's.
She's. Incredible.
Young lady, you haven't heard that episode 139.
I know the number of that episode.
Yeah. Because I literally, I had
someone come up to me a couple days ago.
Yeah. And they saw the van.
I was parked outside Sorrento's Pizzeria in Empire Bay.
Yeah. Girl comes along and just what's
all this about? And so chatting to her about and
(54:17):
she said it's cool. I gave her a card.
And so if you scan the QR code, that'll take you straight to
Spotify. And and she asked what's what
would be a good episode for me to check out as the first time I
went 139 Molly Croft like, But then anyone from there I could
there's so many. I could just say I could go.
What are you up for? You know, shits and giggles.
(54:38):
Let me introduce you to Julie Goodwin.
Deep and meaningful and teary and emotional.
Let me introduce you to Julie Goodwin.
Fun games to play along in the car with the kids.
Julie Goodwin. Like, yeah.
Just stop digging, that's fine. I've done enough, surely my back
(55:01):
to the surface. Yeah, no, the some of these
story and this is the thing, I don't give me another 20
episodes. I won't I won't even remember
Molly Croft and Riverbank Frank.They'll be I'm constantly I've
said to someone I put it up on mine the other day.
Oh my God, this was like my favorite episode and someone
went every episode's your favorite.
(55:21):
I've. Said that quite a lot lately.
Not about any of mine, but. What are you talking about?
Can you tie them in a knot? Can you tie them in a bow?
That's a I need to know the episode number of that one
because when people go, I just need a good laugh.
That's the one I would say. There's a lot of laughter.
There is, there is. Yeah.
(55:41):
Is that the one with the weird voices?
What weird voices were you like?Oh, I put the effects on the
voices. No, that's a different one, I
think. I don't know, It's funny.
Those were early days. Those were very early days,
Like, yeah, I think you're putting the effects on because
nothing was working. It's really funny.
Whenever I get kids in the in the van and they put their
headphones on, oh, I can hear myself.
(56:02):
I hit the effect on there. I mean, they're talking like
this and they laugh themselves stupid.
Oh my God. Just like we did.
So you glance at your watch. Do you need to go?
Is it time? Well, one of us has got to keep
our eye on the time and it's notgoing to be huge.
I've put a giant clock above your head now so that I can be.
Yeah. I just don't know what time you
need to leave. Yeah, well, what time 930 zoom
seance. Oh, you've got ages.
(56:26):
Mary's in the room. We can hear you, Mary.
Can you hear us? I'm only getting parts of your
message. That's your face.
So Spotify gives you this thing and it's.
Excellent. You're top artist of 2024 and I
(56:50):
can now reveal that mine was. Jonas Brothers What?
That's what I said. That's.
Exactly what I said, oh wow. I was like, oh, everyone sharing
their top Spotify artist and I'mlike, you know, if it was that
(57:10):
or Nickelback, I'd be like, Oh my God.
And I love both of them. Oh my God, yeah, it's so.
Funny, I know. Yeah.
Then I've got the. So here's my top five.
Jonas Brothers were number one. Yeah #2 let's see if you can
pick any of them. Ever.
Don't be ridiculous, they wouldn't be in.
(57:32):
My top Jonas Brothers. I love Jonas brother the song
Waffle House Oh my God it's so cool.
Imagine Dragons. No, not in there.
Oh, quite surprisingly, Taylor Swift was my number two I'm.
Not that surprised really. You're a bit of a Swifty.
Yeah, she's pretty awesome. What a mixer then #3 Bon Jovi.
(57:53):
OK. Yeah, I can see.
That and #4 INXS. OK, I like INXS.
What a mix, eh? Yeah, and #5 dua Lipa.
Oh, what a. Mix man.
And then I look at them and go, yeah, yeah, I get it.
Yeah, I do listen to all of those.
Did you get yours? It's, I do YouTube and Paddy
showed me his Spotify and then II, I don't have Spotify, so I
(58:19):
thought it might be on YouTube. Yeah.
So have you got one? Yeah, do want they'll be.
It'll be here. It's just a case of whether I
can find it. Yeah, you.
How do you What do you search for?
Well, generally you do it aroundthe 1st of January, not
February. Your channel, your recap.
Is that it? Yeah.
Yeah, probably your. You had a whole cast of
(58:40):
characters, but only one could be the star.
Yeah. So you can imagine what I
thought when I read this. OK.
Carlos. Rafael Rivera.
What? That's what I said.
Who's that it's Who's that? What do you mean that's your?
Top artist for you. Let's find out.
(59:01):
You're in the top .3% of oh of, of Queen listeners.
Well, there you go. Oh, that makes sense.
Now let's hey you listen to a lot of Queens, your supporting
cast. Here we go.
Point in the tag. Ages.
Was the album. That's New Zealand Symphony
Orchestra with split ends. Yep, then Lady Gaga.
Yep, then Billy Joel. Oh, I like that.
(59:22):
And then it talks to me. Where's?
Carlos though you. Had main character.
He's number one. Oh yeah, main character energy.
Let's replay the plot of your year.
What? Innuendo by Queen.
The show must In April, you had the show must go on and repeat.
It's depressing. July was all that happy music.
(59:43):
We're happy for you. October, your top month for your
favorite Carlos Rafael Rivera. What are you doing in October?
Have you looked into him? Yep.
OK, Be your most adventurous month.
So October was your top month for Carlos Rafael Rivera?
I'm like, what was I doing in October?
What are you doing? I was in New Zealand.
(01:00:05):
Oh, yeah. In October.
For almost all of October. And I've discovered because I'm
like who? Who My, my listening traversed
the decades. I'm a time traveller.
Yeah, that's me. Whoever.
Yeah, I've been alive for many. Well, yeah, time traveller,
you've just lived through many ages.
So the industrial Revolution student system.
(01:00:27):
Shut up. I listen to Oh yeah, no, that's
podcasts. He was show me the podcasts,
Show me the podcast page on. YouTube.
I listen to yours on Spotify. Have you gotten podcasts?
Lots of true. Crime.
(01:00:48):
That's the thing, right? All these people were sharing
their top five podcasts and it was me and like four true crime
things. I know people are.
That's really. Awful.
You really commit to the artistsyou love, which is true.
I listen to full albums, I listen to soundtracks and I
listen to full albums. And he's where he is.
(01:01:08):
Carlos Rafael Rivera, he's an artist or a composer on the
album Godless, which is the soundtrack to a television show,
which I really love. And it's it's like a Wild West
soundtrack. And so I actually had that
soundtrack in my ears while I was climbing mountains and oh.
(01:01:30):
No. Wages and yeah, really
beautiful, melodramatic music that I just had.
That's hilarious. And so so that.
You've got like cinematography music, like playing in your ears
as you're walking through, like Lord of the Rings country.
Walking around the Bush going a good.
Listen to the rhythm. And I'm like, it's all very
(01:01:56):
melodious. Waiting for orcs to come out and
a big battle to happen or something.
This, then this quiet sort of beautiful music, and I can see
the mist and the what? A hilarious way to do
bushwalking with dramatic music playing in the background.
Actually do that for quite a lotof my life and I think it's in
the second-half of the book. I wear my headphones a lot,
(01:02:16):
right? And, and I find it really useful
and helpful to me that even sometimes if I'm having an
anxious sort of the day, I'll put on some soothing music as I
walk through the shops and it helps me just regulate my heart
and regulate my breathing. Put on the hell down this
podcast and it'll just help calmyou down.
As you walk around the shops of this podcast on up in the middle
(01:02:38):
of Harris Farm, squeezing avocados and just go.
Squeezing avocados. Don't be cast.
For me with the with the straight.
Jacket, Yeah. Oh.
Well, again, she's fine. That's in the second-half of the
book. Oh boy.
Well, and when I saw my wife's top five play podcasts for the
(01:03:03):
year. Dual true crime.
No, look, I'm just happy to havebeen in the top five.
Were you? Second, I made second spot on my
wife's list of podcasts that shelistens to.
Have you checked her diary as towhat number husband you are?
Top ten? I reckon not.
(01:03:23):
Armchair expert. Me, I'm I'm in the top ten of
his girlfriends. Well, that's lovely.
Yeah, keep it up. One of you, one of my
favourites, he says. Imagine hitting top five.
Boy, I know Armchair Expert putsout more episodes than I do.
That's the thing, is it? Yeah.
They don't. I didn't Fact Check that one
anyway, so we're gonna do an episode called Finishing.
(01:03:49):
Finishes. Finishes and Julie's can tell
the story about. In finished airs not finished.
Finished airs. I got off the Moshed airs and
someone asked me about I didn't get to find out about Julie's
red and yellow roof racks. The roof racks.
I tried for an hour to finish that story.
Now that's for another time. Thanks for coming by.
(01:04:15):
Finish a layer. Is that the first podcast ever
that's finished with Finish You Later?
Oh man, I had no idea what was coming when we jumped into the
van for that one. And that's pretty much the way
it always goes. Hey, we did talk about the
Patreon page in there. And if you're hearing about it
for the first time, it's patreon.com/pod Van.
(01:04:37):
And I put in as much as I can ofbehind the scenes and extra bits
and pieces and exclusives beforethey get announced to anyone
else. And it's just the way, look, if
you're able to support the Pod Van rolling down the road, every
little bit does count and does help and enables me to keep
doing what I'm doing. Membership start from just 5
bucks a month. And yeah, patreon.com/bod Van,
(01:04:59):
there's like over 150 extra bitsof content in there so far, and
more on the way. All right.
Well, that's. Going to do for today, I reckon
some Ripper ones coming up. So lots of giveaways happening
on my socials as well, especially on the pod van
Facebook page. Lot of giveaways happening in
there at the moment. Want to be doing more of that.
(01:05:20):
I want to give you some fun and interesting things to do.
So check that out on Facebook. Just look up pod fan and we'll
see you in there. Have yourself an awesome day and
I'll catch you in the next one podcast with Robbie.
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